Camila Mendes: Riverdale Days and Becoming a Master of the Universe

Going into this press tour for Masters everyone kept telling me like it's gonna be crazy. You're gonna be exhausted and Literally throughout the whole thing. I was like, you think this is Our guests today is actually a genuine film fan like you I think she would probably also be upset at the laughter that takes place inside with We should ask her I was left during our newest movie though and it was appropriate because it was called Masters of the universe And I had a blast with it and I'm gonna tell her about it There was phone call full just like non stop. It was like if yeah, if I I dreamed a movie is a 13 year old Smash and action figures together, which is just awesome I feel like that's the way it looks like the heavy metal comic covers I'm just also a huge fan of battle cat like I think in general. That's the coolest animals that can talk or top two Characters and many movies animals that can talk that you can also ride into battle though That's the top top. I know like animals that can only talk to each other cop out I like animals that can talk to humans. Well, let's try not to be animals that only talk to each other And let's invite our guest in candy madness. Here we go All right, everybody welcome our guest for today, can we manage? I mean, thank you for joining us cheers. Cheers. Cheers guys. Cheers. Oh, candy. Thanks for being here. I'm so excited We both saw masters of the universe. I thought it kicked ass Really? I loved it. I saw it what three days ago, four days ago. Yeah. Hell yeah. I mean the colors alone You were awesome. You were as a redhead. I approve Second fake redhead. We had KG on two years ago. You talked to KG You're a redhead, right? Oh, I used to I know it's like as I get older It gets brown. I used to be like bright red. It's just harder to tell you but I see it now I see it now. You could always tell by the eyebrows because you can't see them right exactly my lack of death in my eyes I'm going to dye my eyebrows for that role. I was going to ask and it was really unsettling How was that for me now? That's got to be pretty fun. It was really fun. How much of it was green screen and practical? The honestly, the sets were really practical. It was just like the background that was green screen But for the most part like the the enchanted forest that like gorgeous colorful forest that we Fly in it it was all practical and like honestly so gorgeous. It was my ideal forest Your favorite force of all time would be that because there was no Control temperature I felt really safe. I was like I would camp here. That is actually the best camping I could do too I get very scared at night camping. Do you guys like camping? I love camping. We were camping. We got a little scared Yeah, we I don't know why you're explaining. We did not go camping and get scared together My 10 was mixed ears and I was scared so I assumed you were too. You were you were you had mushrooms. Yeah, okay Where did you guys go? Somewhere in like oh hi Valley and I gotta tell you It's the Valley of the shadow of death like at noon time there. It is it's too hot too dusty now two yeah, why? I'm not crazy about the outdoors to be honest. I like I like manicured outdoors. Yeah, I love the grass. Grass is great Pools, inches. I love beaches. That's my version of nature. Lake. I'm no No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not getting safer than like a beach for wildlife in my opinion because you still got sharks and shit Yeah, but I think really close to shore. I don't go deep in there. I just like you're not going for laps. Tosies. Piggy's in the pool That's it. Let the dogs swim Yeah, I like a room out, but besides that nothing No, I'm not the most camping I've ever done was I in high school We camped on a golf course outside. That's wild Really set up a tent because it was like a gated unity with the golf course It was a wild Nice. Yeah, I can't like that. I don't like camping like you this makes sound like you No, I really don't I would never why would I subject myself to that kind of danger? I have heard it being explained as like white people shit Yeah, like I have I have heard it being explained And by the way like I'm about it. I'm about it But like a nice hike up to a beautiful waterfall and then like a little fire pit making some that's amazing the hiking That's okay. I can do that. That's all I had to couple times and then cover hiking's worse than camping though I'm I opinion why because you get to sit when you camp I Hiking the first weekend I ever had with my now fiancé we went on a big hike and she took us up to like Yo-sammy or something and I was like oh, I love hiking. You know in my head. I did get a pathway and I'm terrified of heights and I froze And I couldn't move and so I'm like standing on the stairs and we're supposed to go up and I'm just completely frozen the most embarrassing moment in my life When your legs your legs literally just don't work and I just like she's like oh, I thought you had a lot like I do I literally was just standing there just frozen and I was like yeah, you just keep going I'll come catch you and then I just turned around That would be me. Oh, it's awful. Yeah, but that's the beauty is that you can and I hide you can walk back home Back to your car and get home. You don't have to sleep there. Like are you crazy? Sleeping is a fun part though when you got like a sick tent. No, no, dude fire pit fire pit is the sick part a sick tent isn't gonna protect you I feel like a lot of people are gonna be mad at you for this interview. I Don't think this is the audience to be talking about By the way, also, I don't think the camping audience is gonna watch this They're probably gonna be camping. Yeah, that's as you like camping I go I want camping to get engaged right and then I see your tent. It was a little like Yurt with like a queen-sized bed a bathtub. Yeah, but you can go camping I'm like that. Yeah, so we're not talking about like backpacking three days into the Alaskan wilderness We're talking about getting a sick tent setting it up being in the environment and then cook in a fish that you catch Anxiety isn't fun for me. Is that anxious for you? Yeah Just the the wind and the waves. Well, just like it's like you're cold probably because you get control Yeah, it gets really cold. I'm really sensitive to cold. I hate bees like I hate I love them for the world earth whatever but like But but I'm terrified of them. Okay, I have a serious phobia. I'm not kidding It's actually really embarrassing allergic or just I don't think I'm allergic I have never been stung. I've been stung by a wasp. Oh, that's worse. Yeah, it's not about the allergy for me though No, it's just the fear of it's about it's just the way that they move through the world like they're they're so erratic Don't you a flower? They're like literally in your face all the time and you're bragging about smelling like flower You flowers I wear floral fragrance Brennan do you notice something? I do notice something. I was gonna ask you but I think you noticed first your hair looks really full right now I've been taking a pill once a day Neutral I'm getting married in now what 65 days or so. I want to make sure I look the best I can on the day of my wedding Yeah, you don't want to think about that all the time. 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This is a covid era Yes, that was before we really lived there right like we just moved in to that house. I don't know camp But I remember distinctly thinking that's a really bad vibe and I like yeah, I'm property the coyotes are dead Well, okay But like they quickly dispersed once we moved in it's just that no one was living in the house for a while So they just literally made their own they set up shop in our backyard and when we moved in they were like Pretty much living there. We hear them at night every night But then once we moved in and started making noise and stuff. Yeah, you don't have dog. Oh Is by the way fresh meat for a guy. Yeah, she's a tiny little fru fru fru Yeah, like with no teeth and it's tongue out all the time. It's not like she has teeth just an under bite Oh, it's huge. Yeah, it's it's coyote meat. Yeah, it's like a walking egg. She's so cute. My little grappling. How old is she now? She's six six. So we got we kind of got piggy around the same time I didn't realize that she was that young because she's looked 17 since the time that you got her But she acts like such a baby. She is but she's energy and she like run around a bit. Oh, yeah. She is the zoomies all the time No, she didn't come to London with me. She didn't London's awesome. They're right. Yeah, I loved it. I would live in London for sure The weird thing though I did notice now that you brought it up is London's amazing But it is it is also a place where I felt like there was a distinct lack of dogs We're such a dog community inside of the US. I think you're right But like okay, you go to New York you walk around. Yeah, you're seeing dog shit. Yeah, and you're seeing dogs on almost every block when you're in London You see a dog maybe on the outskirts of London, but anywhere central you there's no dogs. You're right. I actually Yeah, I'm trying to remember seeing that many dogs. No, it's users of bulldogs a lot pictures of bulldogs But there's no I mean the corgi is like quintessentially a British dog. You don't see them. No I don't know why, but that to me makes me go I wouldn't live in London because I need dogs around me all the time Interesting. Where do you stay when you stay in London? My buddy Gresh's house, which is in Putney Bridge Can I get a Putney Bridge? Yeah, Putney Bridge has dogs. So amazing. It's cool Greshes Yeah, Greshes. My buddy Greshes at Putney Bridge was it in Masters of the Universe Gresh Even Mr. Fist lived together. Mr. Fist is wild. All from what you got. Greshes. Yeah, also all three of us are at Why You. Yeah What were you and Stella Adler? No, I was in playwrights for rises. Oh, okay. Yeah. I know playwrights. Yeah We were like the weirdos. Yeah, kind of like the crazy ones, right? Yeah, yeah It was like the studio where you had to do everything like you didn't just act you like directed designed produce It was like a well, which I kind of helped out with you as a producer. Honestly. Yeah, I hated it at the time But then now it's like really paid off Okay, so that brings me in a little bit to Honour all in general, which is amazing I distinctly remember meeting Rachel and her brother Justin At a house party at NYU. At NYU You've historically said you didn't know Cole at school. Yes. Did we ever run into each other? Yes Where how did you tell a difference? I think at the same In those and that same era one of those same house parties It and it had to be through Rachel It was through Rachel in her group of friends. I feel like they knew you well And I would like I feel like we'd played beer pong together But it wasn't like we never like formally met. Yeah, I knew who you were. So I was like That's the I would tell you that because we had we'd like interacted a couple times And then when I was testing for Riverdale I walked into the like the waiting room and um And I saw Cole, but I thought it was you and I went Like that as I'm like we know each other how to call you and you was just like That's amazing. If you switched brothers, it would have been it would have worked fine Exactly, so it's like Dylan would have done it. Yeah, exactly And I was like Because he was still blonde at the time. Oh, yeah, they were identical at the time They really look to like yeah, and minus especially when you cut off the ponytail Yeah, yeah, and then I grew it after that. Yeah, we do kind of do the dosi dough I have found though that we looked we look similar At times and then diverge in pretty even waves So it's like it's usually the span of like three or four years We start to look pretty different. Yeah, and then we come back to looking very similar We're coming back right now. I don't know. I feel like we're in the area of coming back and like I do similar And then you'll see Three years will look very different because I'll be ripped as hell And Cole will be just a weird guy. He'll be like with a long ponytail a little long ponytail. I miss his long ponytail He actually I feel like it really suits him. It does it does. I'm like this guy studies archaeology He he was one step away from the house. No, he was so he just needs he was once a magnifying glass You know, I have a funny story first off The graves and the canes the canes business has been so nice to both me and my wife over there I met Dr. Graves once and he was like one of the nicest guys there Yeah, you know that he's PhD and chicken, baby No, I met him once at the box with you He's a boyward with him really nice guy. He's the best um I have a fun story though Which I think I'm probably gonna get black for but There's a picture somewhere in raising canes on the way up to like mammoth mountain, California or like his eosamony where I got invited on a hunting trip for turkey And I'm covered in full camouflage like face paint camouflage Hair is like greased back with camo I have like a camo balaclava around my neck. It looks like Rambo first blood straight up First one in there and I walk in we're starving and there's canes on the way walk in And I'm like hey, do you mind if I just get like the this special you guys have And they're like yeah, are you Dylan Sprouse? Yeah, and I was like first off I'm in dog Nito right now You shouldn't be able to notice me G.I. Joe yeah, and the staff came out and took a picture with me and you're in your Like a color duty character straight up somewhere and chicken Somewhere in the middle of California is me looking like a man who came out of the woods they put on the wall I hope and I've been asking Todd and so feel for it. I'm like hey if you guys can find this It's like one of my favorite. It's got to be how many games are on the way up there. We do a road trip I think they're opening up a lot more out so we can stop at every single one and see if we can find the patient That'd be awesome I eat you could eat like what one caniac meal at each one. I'd love it. That would be so good Did you go before you hunt it or after um after? Yeah, I guess you go. I didn't get any turkey So I know that it's like it's much easier for you to eat if you can order the food Don't have to hunt this you do not have to hunt this they actually just have it fresh for you I've been friends with the graves family now for a long time and it's one of those It's one of those situations that I do feel is so Authentic in genuine and I feel like everything that they do and the people that they surround themselves with at these events are just great people and I wouldn't say this if I didn't mean it I text that family I text like all members of the family Every other week they invited Barber and I in as truly family to themselves and they're the most down to earth cool people Who always create this really sick environment and because of them I also get to see all the six sports of that so I mean they even invited me and wall Fucking Niners game. Can you believe that I mean you And you're like oh, you know, you know, there's some like celebrities there. You know, it's pretty I'm like how is scared. I was like am I gonna have to be like I'm really good behavior or whatever And I get there and there's Cains branding all over free chicken fingers And there was a guy that was just walking around with Bud Light and just handing them to me. It's the best It was the maybe the best sport event we kicked the Rams ass the Niners We demolish you guys and then I said thank you to mr Dr. Graves I go thank you so much sir for having me He's like, I just love guys like football Yeah, yeah, by the way He's just a guy that you can tell like sports and it's nice and they're like that and I'll say they're obsessed I mean I know that they started uh, well, so they're from Louisiana. Yeah, um, and they like originally collaborated with ls u Um and tigers I know and they've been trying to get me and barber to an ls u game which I really want to go to because I'm sure It's just electric like maybe they'd have to try to not get me to ls u game I'm doing a second. I know we got to go one of these days. We we have to go um, but no, it's it's an actual family that runs this operation And the biggest company still run by a family right? Absolutely. I don't like I'm could be wrong But I'm pretty sure it's like every location is owned by them Um, which I think is really awesome and I didn't know in our lifetime we'd have a new That's food like chicken magnate. Yeah, I was like I thought that was done I thought that was like oil bearings guy with the white beard one away. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Um, I just thought that was like a dead empire thing like I didn't think that happened anymore in the same way that like new like Mega wineries opened up. I was like well that happened like a hundred years ago. A couple of does that Now we have something new in our generation and they give a lot back to to charities and they're doing a lot of cool events Which to me is like Part of it. I think that's the way you gotta do it and their food. The food just fucking rocks I didn't even know they did if they did give a dollar to charity. I'd still eat it I don't care. I think they did but I walked by um, remember at NYU Next to ask your past place now. Yeah, they have a fucking huge chicken finger shop too, which is crazy So Keynes is there. There's a Keynes on the dryback from city walk now too city walk There's Keynes on the dryback from here to my house, but it's not open yet and I know the second it opens Call it up the fiancé hey game. Well special treat tonight and I'm bringing on fingers a little bread and the sauce Don't say you're bringing on fingers. That's not gonna that's not gonna go the way you think my ring fitted for my way. - How big is it? - The guy goes, "Oh, the fuck in a horse." - You have gorilla hands. - You do. - I was like, that's kind of a compliment, yeah. - You have King George's hands. - King George's hands, yeah. So, Dr. Graves, don't look at these and try to fry 'em. You want 'em, that's a cany-ack. (laughing) - Anyway, make sure that you go to Keynes and they're sponsored enough, so if you like us, think about how cool that is. And we're sponsoring them and we're trying. - We're sponsoring them? - Yeah, shout out. - We'll show up to all your football events, free of charge. (laughing) Give us all as you digs and we'll be there. (laughing) - So you get casted for real, what? A year out of it, and why you? - Yeah, or no, I don't know. Like, literally, as I was finishing NYU, I was testing for a riddle. - Wow. - Yeah, wow. - It was just like that. - So you just move again, move again, move again. - I got very lucky. - Yeah, that's a great, like that is pretty much impossible for most actresses just trying. - I know, I know. - It's also perfect time. So you get to graduate and then start working? - And I also graduated a semester early. - Oh, nice. - So that was the reason I was even able to still graduate and everything, because I finished classes in like November, December, and was testing already during that time. And then I got the role by like February. - Oh, Jesus, yeah. - And then shot the pilot. - You were right in. - Came back, waited for us to get picked up, we did. And then it was crazy. The week of up-fronts and my graduation were the same week. And it was like my, the up-fronts were perfectly, I don't know if you guys know what up-fronts are. Do you know up-fronts are? - I know what up-fronts are. - I think you do. - Yeah. - You do, sorry. But like the audience might not know. - Explain. - The listeners. - And Brandon. (laughing) - And Brandon. - I think it's like a table read. - Up-fronts, no. Up-fronts are like, it's like when they invite all the advertisers. - Oh, got you, okay. - And you basically just sit at a panel and you explain like what it is. - Yeah, you just like present all the shows that you have that year or whatever. And so it's like a big deal in TV. Or at least it used to be, I don't know if it is anymore. - I mean, you were kind of the last real wave of network TV, the way that like Cole and I grew up doing it. - Yes. - But you guys then did, CW, that model is kind of dead. - Yeah, it's true. - It doesn't really exist. - It doesn't. - You got an experience on Riverdale. I would argue, we say like one of the gnarly experiences all the time. - It's crazy. - But that experience was so much more similar to the older way TV was made versus what's now being made, I think. - I feel like a veteran. - You are a veteran. - Well, if you think about it, even like practically, you are a veteran, but you have also in the span of the six years or however long Riverdale was running. If this was a Netflix show or if this was a streaming platform show, you would have maybe filmed one fifth of the episodes. - Oh, 100%. - Yeah, and it'd take up way less time. - Way less time, one fifth of the episodes. So you have practically done a lot more time on set. What did they say? How many hours you need to spend? - 10,000 to be a master, they say. - 10,000, yeah. - And you definitely hit that probably by season three. (laughing) - It's insane. - And it's crazy because I remember going into this press tour for Masters, everyone kept telling me like, it's gonna be crazy. You're gonna be exhausted. And literally threw out the whole thing. I was like, you think this is exhausted? (laughing) Try a 16 hour day on Riverdale. - This is nothing, kid. - 17 costume changes. - And it's a night shift. (laughing) - That's hilarious. - But you're like, this is the easiest, it's nice. You get to go to different countries. - You're like, wait, are they gonna go to London? - Yeah. - No, it was amazing. I'm like, honestly, it makes everything else feel so much easier. - You went through like boot camp. - Yeah, actually in London, by the way, it's so much easier already because they do 10 hour days there, and if it's anything above that, they're pissed. - Yeah, they want to go home expressly or to the pub. - And we were lucky on Riverdale if we did a 12 hour day. That was a short day for us. - Oh yeah. - And so. - It was cool calling me. And you can definitely, you can also abide by this. I visited once in the entirety of-- - That was enough for me. - Cool. - Cool being there. - Cool. - It was here for like 20 years, you know. (laughing) - It was part of me being a bad brother. - Yeah, I hit my own shit going on. - But he also came to LA all the time. - It wasn't like I saw him once in a while. - Yeah, yeah. But he would tell me, and he asked me, he was like, "Why don't you visit more often?" I'm like, "Ko, you realize the only things you've ever told me about van Kuver is that you step over a river of needles to get to work?" - Well, he lived in Gastown. - I know. - So like, he kind of chose that list. - I know, but I was like, dude, you're not making me want to jump out of my seat to get over. And then you're like, "Yeah, I got a 12 hour, 14 hour shift coming up." And yeah, you can stay in the needle den with me. I'm like, "I don't want to go." I don't want to (beep) go. You know where I want to go? - I'm going to go back to California. - Those places to live. - I know. - He wants to like, rough it. He's essentially a campy man, so. - Yeah. - A little known fact, favorite food in the world. For me, shrimp and grits, right next to it. Chicken tendies. - Chicken tendies? - Yeah, I'm tendies, dude. - Do you like it better than wings? - I do, because I'm a bit of a weenie. I don't, sometimes I don't want to do the work of biting around the bone. - No, I'm don't. You couldn't get good tenders in L.A. - I know, it's really tough, except for now. Now that they've franchised so many places, like I know I'm kind of within-- - Can we open one? - I'm in a 10 mile radius of chicken delivery. - Yeah, yeah. - In certain places. - I can't get it yet. - 'Cause my store's not open yet. - Burbank fear is-- - Burbank fear is gonna be dangerous. - Burbank, there's some you can get. - I'm gonna get the cane points to like 2000. - I read something that there was a debacle with the sauce that it felt like almost like SpongeBob. - Oh, it's like someone was trying to steal the recipe for the sauce and I go, "That's crazy." You know your sauce is good when someone tries to say it. - The sauce is fantastic. - It's crazy. - It's almost, I mean, I love the chicken, but it is sometimes, you know, I'm going for the sauce. - You gotta drink the sauce. - Have you ever had the naked fingers? - What? - They don't put bread in them and they're healthy. - Is that what you call your hand? - Naked fingers. - Yeah, that's my name. - Fingers in it. - Honey, I'm coming home with gloves on. - Fingers always naked. (laughing) - That's kinda true. - Yeah, we're gonna, yeah. But you can get the fingers without the breading, half the calories, and you still get canes. - So some people get that. - I don't too. - I like this. - I love food. - Maybe before my wedding I should switch to naked fingers. (laughing) - All right, here we're gonna make her a very heavy wife. So all in all, the wrap this up. Thank you, canes for sponsoring us. Make sure that you guys go out and get canes anywhere it's close to you. And buy an order of the jug of sauce just for me. A big thing of tea for me and maybe some naked fingers. But you, something I will never forget because I knew you only really a little bit through the passing, you bought my flight out to Vancouver that time to help me see cool. - Whoa. - I don't know if you remember this. - You just reminded me of that. - I will never forget. - That's the nicest thing in the world. - Oh my god, I literally forgot that I did that. Wow, I'm so amazing. You're gonna look amazing on you. - Cool, was that depressed? She's like, we need someone out here. - Wait, why did I do that? - Literally, you, it was funny because it was you and KJ messaged me independently. And we're like, hey, Cole's been talking about you a lot. I feel like he kind of want you out here. - Was it his birthday or something? - No, first off, that's Arbord Day. - Oh, right. - Second off, that is funny. - Okay. (laughing) - Not very classy. - Oh my god. (laughing) - I don't know what it was for, but it was like, he was having a bad week or something. And both of you reached out and I said, yeah, I might be able to come out. - My god, I remember this. - And you, within 15 minutes, got me a flight. - Oh my god. - I know. - It's a nice thing. - I'll never forget it. I really thought it was one of the coolest things anyone's ever done. - Thanks, Dylan. Wow, I like genuinely forgot that we did that. - I know, it was really sweet and I had the best time while I was out there. - Did you cheer up Cole? - Cheered up Cole? He didn't know I was even coming. It was a surprise. Woke him up at 6 a.m. in the morning and he looked like a little kid on Christmas day. - Oh, he was happy. - His eyes were like, I was like, this is amazing. Great week. - Wow. - What, what, like, your, was that, do you remember? - KJ had just been mulled by a bear. - In the show. - In the show. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - In the show. - Was it season three? You guys did. - Yeah, we were already mulling by bear. (laughing) - I really ramped it up quick. (laughing) - Oh, when it's 22, it's the season. - For a high school drama. The bears came out, I really. (laughing) - That's awesome. - That's amazing. - I love, I mean, my family used to watch it non-stop. - I know, it's bonkers. - And 'cause I knew Cole, it was just, like his Titanic rise was crazy. - In scent. - It was like a month and he was in high-tomic everywhere. - Meanest thing Cole ever sent me was an article, 'cause he knows I love Shohei Otoni. He sent me an article that says, Shohei Otoni loves watching Riverdale. And Cole doesn't watch the Dodgers. And I was like, (laughing) - It was just (beep) (beep) - No, no, no, it gets worse. - It was, he says, between World Series games, he winds down to Riverdale. - I was like, it's like his favorite show in the world. - He killed me. - Absolutely. - It's like jealous. - I didn't feel like athletes loved us. - It was so funny. - Yeah. - I remember we presented at like the NFL Awards or something in so many football players. We're like. - We were giants for Riverdale. - And it's always the girlfriends. - Yeah. - It's always the girlfriend. Like I watch it with my girlfriend loads your show. - That's, yeah, that's definitely, that's a trick that people, you've probably experienced this too, but guys will come up and they'll be like, "Hey man, can I get a picture for my girlfriend "and we get something signed for my little sister?" And I'm like, "Dude, I got it." - You taught you, huh? - Yeah, it's okay. - Just tell me your name. (laughing) - My girlfriend's name's Bob. (laughing) - You signed it to Bob, yeah, to Paul. (upbeat music) - Tough two months. - Yeah, it's been a whole lot of weeks in a row where we had what, a month off the podcast. We went to Tahoe. We had the opening party for the podcast. I had to go to New York with you. - I had to do all these things, too. You're saying all the two things we've done together so far. - You're saying it like it's independent. - And then I came back here and I sat down today and I go, "God damn, it's kind of got away from me." - Yeah, I know, me, too. And I will say so I have actually, funny enough, been using factor for a long time, especially when I have to lock in to getting in shape for a roll or just lock in in general, try to drop some pounds, try to eat healthier, right? And I think the biggest hang up for me always was is that if you cook a lot of food or you're like me and you want to order food, you just want something fast that gets into your body. - A meal, a door dash, boom. - Exactly. So factor made it a lot easier for me to just go into the fridge, microwave something that I need to eat, and I know what's inside is healthy. It's calorically right for me. - 178 band ingredients. So you know what's gonna be good stuff in there. - It's like farmer's market fresh, yeah. So I personally like this has a big endorsement for me. - Two minutes. - Two minutes. - Since I throw it in the microwave, two minutes, you open it up, you're done. It's faster than any delivery you can get there, and it's taste better. You know what I like to? Squares. Every meal is in a rectangle. You just stack 'em in my freezer. My freezer looks like giant dominoes. It's just that's how my factor meals are in there. I just pull 'em out when I'm hungry. Two minutes, eat it, and I just feel myself being healthier. - Let's eat real. Head to factor meals.com/wildman50off and use code wildman50off to get 50% off and one free breakfast item per box for one year. - Well supplies last. - Until October 31st, 2026, that's code [email protected]. [email protected]. See website for more details. - So you get Riverdale right out of college? Was that your first gig? - Yeah, I mean, unless you count the IKEA commercial. Did you research? - He's a research guy, I'm the yapper. Which doesn't make sense because he can't access the brain. (laughing) No, the IKEA commercial, I love. But when it was you were at NYU when you filmed that? - Yeah, okay. I also did my real first gig, which no one knows, 'cause I've never seen it. And I'm so scared that someone's gonna uncover it. - I'm gonna find it, I'm gonna get it. - It's like an opioid addiction awareness. - Like a PSA for opioid use? - No, and I, well yeah, my character's like a girlfriend of a guy who's like peer-pressuring me and I eventually get hooked or something. I don't remember, but it was only used for like high school education videos. - Oh, you gotta find that, that'd be awesome. - And I remember like, not that, I mean like a few years ago, someone tweeted at me being like, "Did I just see Camila and this?" (laughing) And I was like, "Nope, I hope that doesn't come out ever." - Or lean in. - I mean, if someone can find it, if you can find it for me, I'll buy you another flight to Vancouver. - Yeah, I actually think, no one's there. It's just me and Vancouver stepping up and-- - No (beep) - Bear. (laughing) - That's so fun, though, too. You gotta find it. Cole and I, one of our first roles was, and I'm forgetting the music video, but we played baby cherubs, okay? Full wings, and we, the impulses say like, "If I could turn back time." - That song, I forgot what that is. It's not that. - It's not that, okay. - It's not that, but we had a big hourglass, and we had to flip it, and I remember being like four years old, and I have this thought. - And you could stand, you were like, - Bear, I remember being like, the only thing I could think was heavy. (laughing) - I was like, that's one of my close memories. - I was like, first, traumatic memories. - I was like, heavy. - Heavy. (laughing) - You have no idea what the music video is. - No idea. - Oh man, I'll find that. - Yeah. - Wait, you've never seen it. You don't know where it is. - I remember seeing it. My mom used to keep like all of our shit on VHS, but that just scattered into the wind. I have no idea. - Oh, that'd be a (beep) goldmine to find. - Legendary find, I want to get it. I got it, I want to get it. So if I find that, I'll make sure to also find your opioid commercial. - Thank you. - We can have a viewing party. - Thank you. We had a viewing party once, during Riverdale, for some movie that you encoded. That's like Pretty Wild. - Was it Daddy? - No, it might be Just For Kicks. No, not Just For Kicks. - Just For Kicks is a fun one. - No, it had like, it was like Wild. - Was it Prince of the Popper? Were we very little, 'cause I might have it here. - It's like, it's like an acid trip of a movie. - Yeah, that's- - With like a bunch of kids and like a creepy, - Yeah. - Am I imagining this? - Oh, you think in Nightmare Hour? - What is that? - With Shyla Buff. - No, it was like- - We did an Arnold Stein straight to like DVD, with Shyla Buff, yeah. - Oh, I want to see that. - It's actually pretty fun. We played like a scary doll. - No, there's like a king and- - Really? - Was there two of them or were they playing the same character? 'Cause like, a big difference. Like most movies you guys originally were in, it was one character. - All the same, yeah. - Yeah. - And then it was Zack and Cody, the only two first. - No, we did, uh, (beep) and we find it. - Are they all here? - There's one that I'm bringing to surprise call. Um, we have the OG Cambridge. - It's like, it's like really insane and like colorful and there's like a candy land, like- - Is it double trouble? - It's double trouble. - What is double trouble? - Double trouble, I can't wait to show. - Wait, double trouble in- - It's like an acid trip. - It's like an- - You guys all sit down and Vancouver. - And we watch double trouble. - And some drinks and double trouble comes out. - Double, yeah, and I couldn't believe my eyes. - No, I can't believe my- - Double trouble is like, was our agent, or representation at that time and our mom trying to get us to do a Mary Kate Nash Lee thing. - Oh, I see. - And so there's like, - Like, Hawkins. - Is it called bits? - No. - And like- - It's double trouble. - It didn't do as well. - No. - It didn't take off. - Historically flopped. - It did. - Bit of a bummer. - Was it funded by the Disney Channel? - No. - Not at all. - Self-funded. - It was basically self-funded. It was too off-putting to be funded by Disney. - It's the weirdest thing. - It's the weirdest thing I've ever seen. - Oh my God. - I can't wait for you to see it. - Oh my God. - No, 'cause it's like a feast for the eyes. - It's an interesting thing. - If you like to master the universe- - Yeah, that's what I was about to say, man. I just wanted to- - You're gonna love double trouble. - Actually, the prequel. 'Cause it is the prequel, yeah. - That's the prequel. - This is how they got to attorney. - I was- (laughing) - Oh man, I'm excited. - You have been- - So by the time that you even got to said, a match is on the universe as we've explained, you're already a master of your craft. - Yes. - See what I'm in there? - Master of my universe. (laughing) - Thank you. But you have been, which is almost how I've seen you, I think more recently, you have been really on a sick producing kick. - Thank you. - Let's just be real. You and Rage have been killing it. - Yeah. - When was that something that you were kind of found out you were interested in doing? Did it come from a place of wanting to try your hand behind the scenes? Was it you saw a really good script, but you knew it maybe wasn't something you wanted to be in, but you wanted to make it like, give us a little bit of that. - It was kind of the opposite where I, it was like a script that wasn't, I'm not gonna say it wasn't very good, but it wasn't a script I would want to do. - Yeah. - And I needed to make a lot of changes in order for it to be something that excited me, and it was a romcom, which was upgraded, and it ended up being upgraded. - Oh yeah, of course. - And we ended up teaming up on that one, hiring Rachel and I teamed up on that one, hired Justin, Luke, Matthews, her brother, and Luke, and we were like, these guys are the last people you would expect to write a romcom, and how fun would it be to get their spin on something like this? And they were able to bring so much nuance and humor to it and ground it, 'cause it was like, I think it wasn't intentionally more like a hallmarkie kind of script, and I had passed on it years prior, and then they came back and they were like, - Really? - Whatever you want, whatever writer you want, we'll let you come on as producer, whatever. It was basically just framed to me as like, you can make this whatever you want it to be. And so Rachel and I saw that as an opportunity, 'cause she and I had been talking about starting a production company for a really long time, but it was something I like, I never actually thought I would do or, that I didn't really feel like I had the bin with her the time to do, but the idea of doing it with my best friend and someone who's creative opinion, I really value, she and I are so creatively aligned. - Yeah, you guys are not only just creatively aligned, you're just like sisters. It's like watching you is like watching to sisters. - Literally, I literally was saying that today, I'm like she's more than my best friend, she's my sister. - Yeah. - And I feel like we already had so many, we had such similar perspectives on things that I was like, the two of us together would make such a great team. And I don't know, like we both have dads that are very business oriented, very entrepreneurial. - And Mr. Matthews, love him. - Yeah, I love Mr. Matthews. - But he's like Mr. Business, you know? - I thought he's Mr. Business. - Mr. Business. - And my dad, - That is kind of Mr. Buzzer. - Yes, and so we both have that thing in us, I think, that where we feel like we're more than just creatives, like we also have a desire to start something. And so I was like, okay, I would never do this alone, but I would totally do it with her. And that makes me excited to do it. I really don't think I would wanna produce if I didn't have a buddy to do it with. And then now I kinda like, I got the bug and through upgraded, which we weren't, it wasn't under our company, but it was sort of like us dipping our toes and water. - Yeah, for triadding. I loved upgrade. I thought it was very sweet and nice, really funny. - It's so funny. - It's a great movie. - Not only is it all of those things, but for dipping a toe in as the first project. - Yeah. - It was a major success. - Yeah, exactly. - I mean, number one on Amazon for how long? - For like the entire year. - I think it was the number one movie of the year where you talk to something. - It was number two of the year. - Behind what? - The red, white, and royal blue. - God. - Nicholas Galatine. - God damn it. (laughing) - That is very funny. And then you guys recently did Griffin in Summer and Idiotka. - Idiotka. - Did Idiotka come, Idiotka came out. - It came out in limited theaters. And then now we're working on getting a streaming partner. - Idiotka's the only one I haven't seen. - I got into that one of them. - I'm excited to see it. - It's so fun. - It's really fun. - Did you guys nail the, I mean those two are great, so sad. - I know, we're kind of like finding our, like not niche because I think it's gonna be a bit broader than that. But I think ultimately the thing we care about is having that everything we make has like a sense of humor too. - Yeah, yeah. - Even if it is dark, even if it is a drama, that there's like a through line of comedy that makes it digestible. - Griffin had that in space. - Oh yeah. - That kid was so funny. - It's so funny. - And then it kind of cuts deep into the moment. - Yeah. - Which is the best kind of movie. - I mean when we were, I feel like way more when we were growing up, but the stuff that we were seeing on stream as comedies, always had the sad hook or the heart hook. Way more so than I feel like they do now. I see a lot less comedy that like dip into the, ooh that pulled at my heart. - I know. - I mean we used to cry at click. - Like there was like click, it destroys me. - It was destroyed. - Oh my god. - Yeah. - I was like next to my sister's. - No, I don't cry. - Most Adam Taylor movies always have that light level. - That's why people love it. - Yes. - Scrubs was a classic one for this because Scrubs, the TV show, like you would watch it and it's hilarious through most of it. Every episode had the hook, had the heart hook. And you go I felt like that was a lot more present of a hook back then. So it's really cool to see you having that same kind of energy in your movies. I think because that's what might have appealed to our generation at that time. Now we're starting to see a lot more productions that are from our age demographic, people making them finally. - It's also, I think right now we're in a time where like studios are wanting to make genre films and making them very specifically that genre. Where it starts to feel a bit for me like, like it's actually really hard to get away with making a film that isn't so clear of a genre. - Yeah. - Like when it dips in between multiple genres, like that's, I think that actually pushes studios away - For sure, yeah. - If pushes ran into your way. - It's scary, yeah. - Harder to market. - Financers, I have noticed have distinct conversations where they go this, what is this? Is this a comedy, drama, or a romance? And you're like, parking all of those. - Yeah. - Nick, why can't we have all of it? - Yeah. - Like it doesn't have to, it just has to be a good movie. - Exactly, we, there was a script that, I don't even know where it's at now and I don't know if it'll ever get made, but it's this like, everyone I've sent it to has fallen in love with it. It's this beautiful story about, it's like a rom-com about grief and it was so, so good, like so well written and it's just been like shelved. Like it's like, I don't know that it'll ever get made. - But it sucks. - Because it's a rom-com about grief. Like it's like really sad in certain moments and that has made it so that studios don't want to, they don't want to make it. - And that's why you're a producer, right? 'Cause there's, you hear untold numbers of stories about great scripts that just can't move, right? - Even if you take like obsession, which is on everybody's tongue right now, if you keep obsession and you put it in that same frame, how do you put that into a genre box? 'Cause it's kind of a romance horror- - It's a rom-com horror. - Thriller, but like, there's comedy too. - It's a very fun, that's the thing. If you were to tell a financier, I'm making a rom-com horror thriller. - Yeah. - People would be like, most would be like, no. - But I think the clear, the reason why that could be so successful is because it was marketed very much like a horror. - It was just a stray horror. - It was a trailer, so it was all horror. - Yeah, it's cut like a horror. You know, the trailers were cut like a horror. Like it's, that was what they were pushing and then you go there and you're surprised by the fact that it has different dimensions to it. But you're going in expecting horror. - I thought it was gonna, yeah, it was gonna be scared the whole time. - Yeah, and also because I think, like, Gen Z loves to memify horror. - Yeah. - Like, it becomes very viral on the internet. It's very easy for moments and horror films to become viral. - That's very true. - Yeah. - And that had a, I mean, even if you're looking at. - I thought it was going to be a good time. - Yeah. - That one hurt. Like that, I mean, my mom was saying it, yeah. - Even just the shot of the lead actress frowning. - Yeah. - Oh, you were. - That was enough to make me want to see it. - Yeah. - It's just the one frown. - Yeah. - It is, yeah, that's very. - It's really hard to frown, by the way. Like, I don't ever naturally, oh, that's a good frown. Okay, damn it. - You're a good frown man. - Yeah, damn it. - Am I doing it or am I. No. - You're just doing a sad face. You're doing it. - What is, is it a frown or a sad face? - You got to do like the anchovies. - The anchovies from SpongeBob. That's what you got to, that's what you got to channel. - What do they, yeah, what do they say? - Me, me, me. - Yeah, me. - Wait, it was one with the, it's the anchovies, they're trying to get the spatula. - Smiling. - Smiling. - Smiling. - Smiling. - Smiling. - Smiling. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I like that guy. - Did you know that the anchovies episode was the pilot? I never realized that. - I don't think, yeah, I've never watched SpongeBob in order, you know. - What do you mean the anchovies episode? Which one? - The original anchovies that went with a swarm, the crusty crab. - Oh. - All of them come in once. - And he has to get like the spatula 3000. - Yeah. - And he flies over them and he makes them a thousand burgers. That's the pilot of SpongeBob. I didn't just know that. - But it didn't actually, or was it actually the pilot? Did they do the range it? - No, it was the pilot. And they did have a seat, like they had Nickelodeon at that time, had weirdly they aired it all to the public in one block on one day. - The entire season? - No, a bunch of different show pilots. - Oh, gotcha. - And then SpongeBob was like the standout and got picked up and then release later. And then they just filled in. - It is timeless. - It's the best. - I watch it every night. Rudy and I love SpongeBob. - Still. - We're a big SpongeBob household. - Yeah. - Still amazing. - Still. - I think SpongeBob will eventually, I mean, he's almost kind of in the zeitgeist, like I'm making sense of, you know, five years below me, I think. - Yeah. - And it still go, like they're still making like, - There's a movie coming out soon, I think. - SpongeBob and she's eight, you know, it's like, it continues. - I still love it. - They still love SpongeBob. - It's so funny. - Now it's like 3D SpongeBob and it's a little, a little creepy. - A little creepy. - A little scary. - Yeah. - I will tell you, the thing that kills me the most in terms of items lost as I aged. Cole and I, right as we stopped working on the Disney Channel, Nickelodeon wanted to set a general with us. So we went in and we met with Nickelodeon. - The Switch teams? - They wanted us to, they were starting the live action division and they wanted to do a show. Now at this time, we were ready to go to college. So we were like, guys, we're a little old. I don't think we want to do this, but we're very thankful that you brought us in. They were like, no problem. Why don't we walk you around the studio? And they took us to the SpongeBob department. It was the coolest studio space. Now, I don't know, in SpongeBob, the transitions between the scenes are hand painted, like, three hours late there, like all that stuff. All that's hand painted. Some of the close-ups-- - Like the Disney stream close-ups. - Yeah, it does, it does. - The ones you like-- - Hand painted. So those are old hand painted ones. They said, would you guys be interested in having one of these? 'Cause we have a lot of 'em. - You're a lot. - Hole and I got gifted, three hours later. - I have chills. - The hand painted-- - No, I have chills. - Three hours later, Cammy. They gifted that to us. We were like, we gotta get this framed. Like, this is going to-- Not only is this probably gonna be the most - Classic transition. - Classic, classic. - Probably gonna be the most expensive thing we own in 50 years. Weirdly like, might just be the thing. We brought it home, dad said, I'm gonna put this in storage. We'll make sure we keep it safe. - No. - Disappeared. - Oh. - Disappeared from the Earth. - This one, your dad got a new motorcycle? - Yeah, you've certainly got a weird later. His new motorcycle showed up, yeah. - That's on the house. - Have you moved like, what, three times after? - My dad put it somewhere and when my dad put something somewhere, it might just be in Valhalla. Like, I have no idea where it is. Either that or like a Hell's Angels clubhouse somewhere. - Oh man. - I'm like, I'm not gonna figure that out. - You're not gonna find that. - Cole has it in his bathroom. - I know, he's just hiding it. - Yeah, I wouldn't-- - I killed him. - I killed him. - I killed him. - I had his Teen Choice Award from Riverdale. He gave us one, remember, at the house. - So surfboards. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So I have two. - My dad has them in the living room. - Ours was stolen. off the porch in Malibu, yeah. - What? - So someone out there is surfing on a teen choice award. (laughing) - And we never heard from them again. - Yeah, I don't be told by a shark on a teen choice award to be sick. - We did like the long goodbye, like we were like detectives on the beach looking around and we got it, we got it clue. And someone's like, oh yeah, I just saw a teen choice award like two months ago, up that way. Walked up to the guy, he's like, yeah, you know, I saw someone walk by with it, but nothing else. So we're this close to Malibu. - Oh my god. - Oh, it's out there. - So if someone has it. - By the way. - It was the award. - I think it was Best Kiss. - It's kind of like the best one. - No, I know, I know. - It's either Best Kiss or Choice Mail Hottie. - Oh, it might be Mail Hottie. - It might be Mail Hottie. - It might be Summer Hottie. - Summer Hottie. - Summer Hottie. - Summer Hottie. - Yeah, no I need a back for the summer, dude. - It's so good. - Wait, are the teen choice awards still a thing? - I don't know. - I don't think they must be. - I don't think we're allowed to know because we're not teens anymore. - Oh yeah. - I don't want you to. - I don't want you to be there. - For Choice Mail Hottie. - That's just, by the way, I just love the fact that there might just be like a council of people around the table in the back. What do we name the award? - Yeah. - Choice Mail Hottie. - He's our choice. - He's our Hottie and he's our choice. - That's great. - Yeah. - Don't sign off. - I am. - That would be easy sign off. - I hope it's still a thing. I don't think, teen choice awards might still be a thing, but I don't know that the Choice Mail Hottie is still a thing. - That's probably good. - For the Summer Hottie. I don't know if that's still a thing. - I might be screwed out. - Yeah. - I think, by now, you think it's just Summer Hottie now? - I think it's just weird to be like teen Hottie. - I don't think there's no way. - I mean, teen Hottie, it's all weird. - It's all weird. - It's all weird. - It's weird to pull on it too. (laughter) (laughter) (laughter) - Oh, God. - Go on, name 'em. (laughter) - Say it. Do it, bro. Clip it. - Clip it. (laughter) (upbeat music) - By the way, musica. You're talking to a big fan over here. - Oh, yeah. - And I want to talk about you rudy directing you in that. And I'm like, marriage must be easier than actually making a movie with your spouse, right? Like, if you had a choice, it's almost like. - Are you married together yet? We met on that movie. - Yeah. - Which means it's meant to be. - Yeah. - Yeah. - If you can get through that, right? - I didn't know that's where you guys met. - Yeah, that's how we met. - That's because by the time it came out, we'd already been dating for a while. So everyone thought that. - Oh, see, okay, in my opinion. - That we made it together. But no, it was his movie that I joined. - It was so visually brilliant. I really enjoyed the movie too. - I would also say, like, I had met rudy outside of knowing you. - Yeah. - Before you guys had met him independently. - Yeah. - And I get it. Like, I'm just saying for the record, I get it. - I'm glad you got it, Bill. - That's it. He is an immensely talented man. - So talented. - He really is. - He's brilliant. - I kind of have a guy crush on him. Like, he just like whips out piano shit. - Okay. - I'm like, what the hell do? - You're making me laugh for 20 years. - Yeah, right? - Yeah, right. - So now that you've finished really the PR tour besides this. - And now you've had your hand in the production side. And this. Do you find that you favor one or the other? Do you find that it's like, I mean, they're obviously very different. - Yeah. - But what feels like it's coming easier to you right now in this part of your life? - Um, nothing's coming easily to me right now. It's all really hard. - It is all really hard. - Um, I don't know. I think right now, it's nice. Having a production company is nice because in between projects, you can like dip back in into your passion projects and like keep pushing it up the hill. But I'm like gearing up to shoot another movie in like three weeks. So I have to go back to Atlanta. And so then I'm like, I feel like that's my focus right now. - Yeah. - It's just this next project. But there's like one project in particular that I've been trying to push up the hill for years. And it's just like, honestly, I feel like the best ones, the best grips, the ones that like really have potential are the hardest. - Yeah. - To get made because they're, you know, they're not straightforward. And maybe not as like commercially marketable. But like, if you can get it right, can hit it big. So I'm like just really hoping that that one takes off soon because it's so special. And it's been special to me for like a decade. - Oh wow. - One of the things that I'll say since the first time I met you is that, and I think makes you stand apart from so many people I meet in the industry, is that from a feel like literally from the jump cam, you've had very, a very firm understanding of what your vision is for both acting and now producing as well. But a lot of people when they're fresh into the game and they start doing what they do, naturally have the imposter syndrome or they have the fear of speaking, what they feel like they need to have. And I've never seen that from even once. Even once. - I speak my mind. - Which is, I think, the best former professionalism. - Yeah. - It does give you so much authority, which is well warranted. But at the same time, when did you feel like you really found your voice? - That's a good question. I think Riverdale definitely helped me develop it. I don't think I had that confidence in the beginning of my career. Because you're just so lucky to be there. You just feel so lucky to be there and you're like, I'll do whatever you want. I'm just happy I have a job. But I don't know if there was a defining moment where it started to switch. But I think the more I did projects outside of Riverdale, I started to gain that confidence. Especially when it comes to producing, when I did do revenge, Jen Kate Robinson, the director, when she cast me, she really involved me in the like, as much as she could to an actor, she really involved me in the process and she would run casting ideas by me. And she was just like-- - That was fun, okay. - She really involved me in a way that I almost felt like I was producing it. Or I had this power and influence over her decisions that, and she valued my opinions. So that kind of helped me exercise that muscle ever so slightly, in a way that gave me confidence. And I think, you know, the more I started to surrender to the sort of TV pace and rhythm, the more confidence I got. Because coming from acting school, you're like, you learn how to do things in a very technical, specific way, and this is how you do it. And then you get on a TV show, and it's like, there's no time to like sit there and write my overall objective and break the scene into beats. - You were in a meat grinder. - You don't have a week for a monologue. - No, you have to do 17 pages today. - Exactly. And so you have to push through, and you have to just trust your instincts and be quick on your feet. And that gave me a sort of confidence in my abilities where like the more you do it, then you show up to work. And you're like, oh, what do I have today? This fat monologue quote. Got it. - So that's pretty awesome. - And then once you do that so many times, you're like, oh, I'm a pro. I can do this with my eyes closed. And I think that gave me confidence in myself. And I genuinely, I can see myself becoming a better actor while watching that show. - Yeah. - Like I actually sharpened my tools. - Yeah. - Like I had a better skill set by the end that I didn't have before. Like I watched and I'm like, okay, it was there. The potential was there. But like I was still not the strongest actor. Like I had growth. There was growth to be had. And then I think like, you know, the cycle of TV having new directors every episode come in. At a certain point, the cast is running the show. Like where are the ones? - Yeah, I really are. - That like, we're the grounding force of the crew, in a sense, because these directors don't really know anybody. Yeah, they're there for two weeks. So you just like kind of trust in your ability to lead the charge. - And then you're shooting with someone like Travis Knight on Master of the Universe. - Yeah, we got there months early to train. So like, I was there in November of 2024 through June of 2025. - Oh man. - I'm like, that's a season of real. - That's true. - You know? - How was the year coming up? - A little less, a little less. - Yeah, how is the training stuff? Is it fun? - Oh my God, it was so cool. - Because your sword work was great. - I honestly loved it. I loved getting strong. I loved getting muscle. - Yeah. - I learned so much about my body. And like, I lost all my muscle. No, because I don't train like that anymore. - No. - Were they like, can you hard training wise? - Oh my God. Yeah. - Yeah, like five days a week, hour and a half of weight training followed by an hour and a half of stunt training. - Cheese. - Stunt training is always the fun part after the weight training, too. - Oh my God. - It's just choreography. - Yeah, exactly. But no, it's like, I felt like an athlete for those few months. - Yeah. - Because that's all I was doing. Like, my whole life was just like, going to the gym and training. - It's awesome, by the way, to like, be on a production of that scale, too, where they're like, yeah, we'll pay for your meals. - Literally. - You're training. - Yeah. - You don't have to think. - With the best people in the biz. - Yeah, just do what they tell you. - Don't think, just lift weights. - I was the happiest, I've ever been. - Yeah. - During that time. I'm not kidding. I remember calling a rooting being like, I'm so happy right now. - Yeah, yeah. - Like, when you're working on six hours a day, you must sleep like a baby. - I'm living in a sick pad in London. - Yeah, nice. - And everything after you do, like, after you do, like, two to three hours a day of that kind of stuff. - Yeah. - Everything else that you do, you feel like you deserve. - Like, there's-- - There's nothing else that can happen, but you're like, "Yeah." - You live waste for an hour and a half, you deserve pretty much anything. - Yeah, anything after that. - No, it was really cool. And we had to do like physio twice a week. And like it was warranted because that's what made me really feel like an athlete. 'Cause I'd like actually have enough soreness to do like, you know, injuries right in life. - Yeah, exactly. I'm having a lot of knee pain today. - Awesome, you're like a football player. - Literally, I felt like a football player. - Did you catch any injuries on set was there any like, 'cause there's always like one where you go like, "Oh, shit." - There was one, but it wasn't that bad. But I remember like being so proud of it, I took a photo. It was really not bad at all, but it was just like a stunt where I was getting like, pummeled by Beastman. - Yeah. - And he asked to like, you know, my hand goes like this against the asphalt. And when I, usually there was a pad, but the way that we landed, the pad was like, "Oh, no, oh, yeah, yeah." - So I just like slammed my hand into the asphalt. And it was like a little red and swollen, there's like a cut, but it was like. - That hurts though, that's cool. - It hurts, I'll tell you, there's always something that happens on the set. And by the way, like people will be like, "Oh, can you say that you got injured on a set?" Yes, because nothing's of fine science when it's on that speed and that level. And when you do it, when I did beautiful disaster one, there's a lot of stunts in that movie. I remember this one moment at the very end, we had to do this, like a cage fight scene, this big Russian guy came out with a chain, right? And he beats the hell out of me in the cage, and then like hits the chain on my back. The chain was like plastic. And he, we were shooting in Bulgaria, and he looked at me and he goes, "Hey Dylan, come here for a second." And I was like, "Yeah, what's that?" And he's like, "Feel the chain, I just want you to feel it so that you know what's coming." I was like, "Okay." And he goes, "So it's plastic, it's not steel." And I was like, "Yeah." And he goes, "But it's gonna feel like steel." And I was like, "What?" And he goes, "Well, because in order to make it look convincing that I'm hitting you with a chain, you have to swing a plastic chain hard enough to still make it feel like steel. Like you're getting hit with an object fast and hard enough that it's still really gonna hurt." And at that point in time, we were in our last month. - Great man. - We were in our last month. It's freezing cold in Bulgaria. It's freezing cold in shirts off. And they're spraying me with freezing cold water between the takes I looked at and I said, "I'm shirtless." And I look at him and I go, "For a d**k, it man." - Give me your words. - Just with my sh**. - Was the cold water just so it hurt more? - I was thinking, "Yeah, why is it making my dad hold it?" - Yeah, dude. - I know. - They'll really help. - No, acting is a humiliation, which will all be fine. - Like truly. - A hundred percent. (upbeat music) Well, Kami, this has been honestly like an utter pleasure. Is there anything that we have to know, I guess, with future projects that are coming out, things you wanna promote? Tell us now, we're not good at this part. - Yes. - Yes. - It's probably very much better than us. - You've done a lot of up-fronts. - But we've done a lot of up-fronts. - I'm doing my first one this week. - I don't know. Do I have anything to promote? - Do we have a dead, D-E-D? - D-E-D? - D-E-D, which is pronounced dead, I think. - Deadly? - Yeah. - It's pronounced dead. - What's the main thing? - It's pronounced that. - Dead? - Dead? - Dead? - D-E-D or dead, right? - Dead, yeah. - No, 'cause my agent's for a long time, 'cause it's spelled in all caps, so for a long time my agent's would be like, - D-E-D. - D-E-D. - And I was like, no, no, it's dead. - It's dead. - It's dead, it's dead. - So what's D-E-D, tell us a little bit. - Oh, D-E-D, no, dead is about a dead person, which is why it's called dead. But no, it's a silent film. - Why? - There's sound, like there's sink sound, but there is a dialogue. - Okay. - So that was like my first time doing something like that. - That's a tough one. - Oh my God. - It's a hard script to read, I'm sure. - How do you not talk? - No, it was amazing to read. Well, I don't know, it's kind of, it's very stylized in that way, very chaplain-esque. - We could never do that. We're such, yeah. - How do you think you improv in a silent film? - No, but like, even the laughing and stuff, facial expressions have got to be locked in. - Yeah, and you have to sort of exaggerate certain reactions or sounds. But you don't wanna be too corny and indicate too much, but you also need to be able to get the point across and get the emotions across. So it was really fun, but I didn't have to memorize shit. - I mean, that's nice, yeah, that's nice. - Every day felt like exciting. It was like, there was no stress of like in my off-book. You just showed up and you had to like, you know. - It's like a puzzle how to figure out. - Yeah. - Well, that's something that I will say, and I'm sure you felt this on masters as well, but when there's so much stunt choreography, I was never obviously a dancer, like even the shock dance with Barbara and I, I was terrified. - No, you looked fine. - It was fine, but the first dance I was terrified of, however, the stunt choreography for me and working through a scene, I'm sure with dead as well, it's so particular to your placement, your marks, the time that you do something, it feels a lot like dancing. - And it's so much choreo too. - Oh, wow, yeah. - I mean, there's no singing, but there's-- - It's like, stomp. - Yeah. - It's like stomp. - It's a stomp silent hand piece. - Stomp silent, feel about a dead guy. - I fell asleep during stomp when my mom took me. I think I'm the only guy who ever fell asleep or stomp, 'cause maybe because there was hardly soothing. - Yeah, I think so, yeah. Oh no, I just fell asleep. - No, my been soothing for me. - Wait, how old were you? - Seven, I was in Manhattan. - Whoa, I was in Manhattan. - Yeah. - I'm not joking, and I got dragged out of stomp. - You got, it was during Big Daddy. I got dragged out of stomp. - We might have been there at the same time, 'cause it was, yeah, I was like, yeah, 1990. - Oh, wow, like ships in the 1990s. (laughing) - It was meant to be, yeah, I'm sleeping, you're gonna drag those stomp. - STMP, I'd call it. (laughing) - Oh my god. - Oh my god. - I was stupid, still am, but as a kid, and I never put two and two together, when a child, like when you're a child actor on set, and you're wrapping up for the day, and you have a hard out, they call it, you're becoming a pumpkin. You're gonna, like, they become pumpkins at this. - Right, we're right. - Like Cinderella. And I never watched Cinderella as a kid, so I was like, what the hell is this mean? Never watched it. - Why am I pulling a (beep) pumpkin? - I'm not gonna give you the pumpkin. - You get scared. - Whoa, let's get out, I gotta get out of here quick. (laughing) - I'm gonna run out of the door. - And that's how I developed body this morning. (laughing) - Now look at me. - I'm gonna go like pumpkin. - I'm gonna go like, what are you saying to me? - You kinda were becoming a pumpkin. - I kinda wasn't the same time. - He was. - Kami, I love you. Thank you for coming on. - Love you guys. - This was so fun. - It was very, it was great time. - I'll let you know when I need my next flight out to Vancouver. - Okay. - Please. - Anywhere you want in the world. - Yes. - I got you. - Yes, dude, that masters money. - Yeah. - No, baby. - I wanna travel. - I wanna go to the church. - I wanna go to church in K-Cross. (laughing) - So very excited to see what's upcoming now. You guys can all watch masters on streaming currently now. - Amazon. - Yeah. - And it's a lot of fun, guys. - And. - Prime video. - Keep on the lookout for anything created by Honor Roll. - Yes. - Yes. - Please. - Which we produced that as well. D-E-D. - D-E-D. - Yeah, let's go. - Excuse me. - And go, bro. - And go. (upbeat music) - Good job, guys. - Yay! - Okay. - Kami was a great guest. - She was fantastic. - Isn't she just awesome? - I think she's like so effortlessly easy to talk to. - She was funny as hell. - Yeah, she's talented, funny as hell. And she's, by the way, like, I think we almost underserved it in the episode. - Yes. - She's like a phenomenal producer. - That's what I was gonna say. - Because the producing track is huge. - Honor Roll is like the stuff that Honor Roll is creating right now is really fun and really cool. And I definitely recommend anyone listening or watching this to check out some of their movies 'cause I really do think you'll like 'em a lot. And I also have personal attachment, feeling to it, as well, because they work so closely with Luke and Justin. - Exactly, so. - This is two of your guys who directed you. - Yep. - To my personal attachment to you. - Especially to you. - Especially today. (laughing) - Because it's your birthday. - It's my birthday today. (laughing) - In full disclaimer, his birthday was yesterday. - Yesterday. - But, I wasn't hanging out with you with cameras yesterday. - Oh, no. - They should turn the cameras off when I come over. - Oh no. - So, we have a present for you that I got. Now, it's no as some've been laudin' but it's good-da-fi. - It's good-da-fi. (laughing) - Yeah. - No way, I'm excited. - I wrapped it myself. What is this? - I mean, now I wish, I'm, well, let's see. - I like the foil wrap? - Yeah. You have to be real careful with it. - That makes me so nervous. - Oh, here we go. - Nitro glycerin. - Yeah, what is this? - C4. - Turn it over. - This is delin' out. - Yeah. - It kind of looks like a bar of chocolate. It might be. - Okay. - It looks like it. - Old bar of chocolate from the '90s. - All right, now I have something to say about this 'cause I'm not, I don't know all of these things like you. - Oh gee, jungle booster. - Original jungle booster, which, let me set the scene here real quick. - Tillin' best to me that he is going for a master. master center of Snorlax. - Yes. - And the original Snorlax holographic was in this jungle booster. - That's right. - But my buddy Nathan at the cart store. - Yeah. - I was talking to him and I was like, "You know, he already knew you." He's like, "Yeah, Dylan and Paps are in here all the time." And I was like, "Yeah, 'cause Nathan's a real nice guy." But he goes, "You know, if I sell this to you, you're not supposed to open it." He goes, "This is a piece of history." - I'm gonna open it right now. (laughing) - He goes, "You have to promise me not to open it." - And I go, "Yeah, sure, dude." - Sorry Nate. (laughing) - I was like, "No, I won." - I texted Brian immediately after I was like, "I got him this car that you're not supposed to open." I'm like, "What are you supposed to hold on to it?" By the way, you could be roasted by Pokeheds in the comments. - They would be mad. - Yeah. - I think Pokeheds, which is kind of funny. - First off, thank you. This is wonderful. - And this is Clevver. - Oh, you're lucky. - Let's see how awkward he is around any sort of physical affection. - I was like, "What the hell's he doing?" (laughing) - So this was from '19. - He still calls his dad by name. - '90s something? - Yeah, this is long, the jungle. - We can have the questions. Well, here we go. - Do you think that quote's so hard? - Just this. - Well, tell 'em on the back. The masters of wizards, the wizards of the coast. - Which, by the way, wizards of the coast, I don't think they work with Pokemon cards any longer. - Do you think this phone number still works? We can call 'em and ask 'em if we can open it. - Three, two, four. - Actually, great idea. - Six, four, nine, six. - Okay, you have to tarth them. - Thank you for calling wizards of the coast. So, you please press one and leave a detailed message one. - Oh, a message. Hi, my name is Dylan Sprouse. I'm 11 years old. And I'm with my best friend in the world, Wendy Columbus. I'm wondering, he got me at a Pokemon called Store. He got me a jungle booster pack of Pokemon tweeting card games that has wiggly tough on the front of it. And I'm wondering if I could potentially, if I'm allowed to open it. It was my birthday yesterday. And I'm wondering if I have the ability to open it now. The guy at the store told me not to. Please call me back. Thank you. - I think he's definitely gonna call bad. So, what's, can you tell me, I'm not a poke ahead, as I said. - What is the downsides of opening this? - Well, nothing. - Nothing? - Though only downside would be is that there's no hollow, no anything in it. - We're not gonna (beep) up history though. Like, there's enough of these out there where you're not like, you're not tearing up the Mona Lisa. - Here's my thing. People, the people who are really intent on keeping these sealed are intent on reselling them eventually. This is a gift, a precious gift from a friend to me. - Exactly. - So, I'm not gonna have a resell it. - So, we're gonna see what's inside. - I don't know if I'm gonna open it now. You know Barbara would be really mad if I open it without her. - She wants to be there, watch it. But, I will say, like, if I was intent on reselling it, which is a lame thing to do, then I wouldn't open it. But, you do kinda gotta, should we? - Nathan, I'm sorry. - Oh, they're gonna be so mad. - Okay, look. - I think you gotta open it in a camera, man. - Alright, I'll open it. - Yeah! - Oh, no, Nathan, I'm sorry. - Nathan, sorry. - Okay, by the way, I'll tell you scalpers out there. (singing) - It's my present, screw you now. (laughing) - So, what are we shooting for here? - We are shooting for any hollow. - Okay. - That comes out of this, okay? - Okay. - But everything is actually, everything is worth something in this. So, I feel like I should be wearing gloves. - I know. - Woo! - Dude, this is crazy. - I'm excited. - I'm excited you even found one of these. - Nathan helped me with it. He's, do not open it and I'll sell it to you. - Sorry, Nate. - That's not what this is about, is it? - I can reseal, sell this. - Ooh, I'm like, kind of nervous. - My hands, right? - How are you gonna do it? So, we're shooting for Mr. Snorlax? - We're shooting for Snorlax. We're shooting for any hollow, I think. - Okay. - What's the percent on that usually? - Ah, I don't know. - No. - I don't know. Okay. - Okay. - You might like hands or anything. - And I don't know how I'm at, oh sick. Dude, Jigglypuff right off the bat. Okay, okay. - Oh wow. - He's actually breathing really heavily. - I am too, look at my hands. Look at those. Can't fake this. I've been an actor for a long time. Believe me, I've seen this movie, so you can't fake this. (laughing) Okay, I got Jiggly. - Jiggly? - Which camera are you doing it to right there? - I think I'm doing it that one. Got Nitterand. Okay. - It's the same thing where it's at the end. Bell sprout. - I don't know the way they look at it. - These are OG cards. - These are OG, dude. - Paris? - Oh yeah. - That's a crab. - Pokeball? - Pokeball. - Okay. - Are we getting close? - Spiro, yeah. It should be towards the end. - Oh man. - Spiro. - Meowth, great card. - Meowth, cool. - Electrode. Cool one. - Weeping bell. - That's me if nothing hits. (laughing) Weeping brand. - Lickitong. - That's me later if it hits. (laughing) - Dojo Rio. - Oh no. - And that was it? - What? - Is there Dojo Rio, dude? - Oh no. (laughing) - There's nothing in there. Now there is. These are all worth it. - Oh my lord. - And they're precious to me. (laughing) - That is (beep) your present up? - No. - And you open it. - Nathan's gonna be so mad. - So would you say that was a bad pack? - No. - No. - You know why I don't think it's a bad pack? - Cause you had fun to open it. - Yeah. - Because that's what you do with cards. - It's a card game. - Yes. - You open them. - And then you, you (beep) trade them. And that's, you know what? - That's the way it works. - Well I wish we got a hit. - But dude, we did get a hit. We got a hit. - The biggest hit got a hit. - Yeah, our friendship. The biggest hit I got was I made a memory with my good friend. - It looks the same. - So now we can keep that on the wall. - First edition. - First edition. - That was awesome. Holy shit. - Great man. - Well I was really hoping for some history there. (laughing) - And you too or something.