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Cam Newton Becomes a Tailgater, and the Guys Are Ready for Week 1

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Cam Newton Becomes a Tailgater, and the Guys Are Ready for Week 1

Joel Anderson’s recent on-air reactions to a digital video mocking him—where he was portrayed as a target in a prank—trigger a heated discussion about accountability and sportsmanship. The hosts question whether Joel should have responded more directly, highlighting a pattern of emotional outbursts followed by minimal consequences. They argue that while the situation was meant as light-hearted ribbing, its public amplification crossed into harassment, especially since the video was created to mock him while he was occupied with other media commitments. Cam Newton joins as a guest to offer insights into his college football career, particularly the 2010 season, where he won a national championship and faced personal and family challenges. He emphasizes the importance of personal and team achievements, asserting that legacy is built through resilience and dedication, not just statistics. Newton also reflects on the treatment of Black quarterbacks in college football, noting a shift in public admiration over time and questioning how schools respond to offensive remarks. He underscores the importance of athletes protecting their legacy and the need for institutions to respect player identity, closing with a defense of his own career—driven by personal ambition and a desire to prove himself beyond financial incentives. The discussion ends with a focus on unity, tradition, and the enduring value of integrity in sports culture.

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Joel with no TCU gear on today, even though he put a very respectful video up after the game. Got to salute to you, Joel, for being, you know, a very the opposite of a sore loser. You know, you were pretty. You took a few shots, but for the most part, you were pretty good. Texas Southern getting the representation today. How are you doing? How are you holding up? Well, you know, one thing about the TCU prediction, I listen to a lot of college football podcasts. I didn't hear anybody else say that that game would even be close. So I'm happy to be right, you know, as much as anything else. So I have that going for me. And you know what? It's time for the Suns to come to an end. So, you know what I'm saying? So he can move on. And you talk about TSU. TSU. You got the Labor Day Classic at Prairie View on Saturday. I'm a TSU alum. As I talk about, you know, I went to pre-K in kindergarten. I'm a motherfucking Tiger. They had their first winning season in 25 years under coach Chris Dishman. So shout out them TSU Tigers. I'm going to be rooting for them this Saturday. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. A Gator reached out to me and just said, bring up that Joel said that two weeks ago that he was going to be texting you throughout the whole game as TCU ran up to score against North Carolina. So I did not receive any of those texts, Joel. Well, you know, I was just trying to wait. Who sent that? Why? What kind of? Did you get that email? No, no, no, no. Wait a second. Wait a second. Can I be real? The people that sent that are the people that want to hold you accountable for the things like what you just said. Like you said a second ago, you said that you was on here talking about like they was going to lose and stuff. But then there are people that remember. Then there are people that remember that what you said that you was going to be talking shit while he was running up to score and they didn't run up to score. They got ran up by the Ireland. Yeah. That's fine. That's fine. But again, not very many people. If there's a, hey, Gators, if there's another college football podcast voice or person in the media that said that that game was going to be close, please, please present them to me because I didn't hear anybody else say it. You heard it here from Joel Noseball Anderson. Noseballs. Oof. Tough. It's an interesting nickname. Interesting nickname. Noseballs. Wait, which one? Which one? Tell me what's interesting about it. Which Noseballs? Billy, do you like that new nickname? How did you get that nickname, Joel? Yeah. Tell me. Noseballs. Tell me what's interesting about it first and then I'll tell you. Raise it. Raise it. Raise that roof. No. Joel Noseballs Anderson is awesome. Yeah, no. Tell me. Hey. Tell me what is interesting about it. I want to know. Look, Cam and Mace, get started. I threw my glasses. Take. Hey, if you don't introduce Joel as Joel Noseballs Anderson for the rest of your life, you're not doing this show any credit if you don't, bro. No. We got to. No, we got to. It's a good nickname. Does the ring have an HR department? Yeah, we do. I've never talked with anybody from HR. We do have HR. I think you're going to hear from him after the Noseballs comment. No, you guys call me Noseballs. It's going to be a conversation with HR. I think that's happening soon. Joel, why are you drinking something? Like, what's going on? Last week, you had no sleeves. Today, you're just drinking something in the middle of the show. Are we not allowed to drink on air? What the fuck is going on? Do you not respect this show? Like, I see you on PBS. You have a button-up shirt. Your hands are, like, prim and proper, like this. Like, you're talking. You come on here, and it's, like. You look like you're talking to Charlie Rose. Yeah, a little bit. What's going on? Yeah. I'm the Noirist. She's a very, you know, respectable, high-profile journalist. So, shout out. Charlie Rose. Hold on for a second. Joel, have you not been paying attention to the news over the last couple of years? What about? My friend, Charlie Rose, was me, too. Oh, yeah. No, I'll go. Yeah, I heard about Charlie. Charlie Rose. Yeah, I thought we talked about him on here before. I don't. Yeah, you all said Charlie Rose. I don't know how he come up. Oh, like. He's from my hometown. You said he was one of the most respectable journalists. Noseballs. No, no, no, no, no. Anderson said that he was. I said that about Amna. Not Charlie Rose. Not Charlie Rose. Although, Charlie Rose, I mean, you can't take his journalism career away from him. He just appears to have been a creep. Yeah, you just can't. He was a sex pest. So, unfortunately for the women that had to come across him. But, yeah, no, I was on PBS. I was on NBC. Now, what else did I have to do this week, dog? NPR. Man, they had me all over, dog, talking about Tupac. Yeah, you know balls. Well, there you go. We're going to take a quick break to get a word from our presenting sponsor. When we come back, we have a first edition of the actual regular season, Instigators. We'll be right back after this. Ringer Tailgate is presented by FanDuel. College football Saturdays are here, and it's your most rewarding season ever on FanDuel with the all-new FanDuel Rewards Club. Every eligible bet can earn you points, win or lose. The more points, the bigger the rewards you can unlock. Head to FanDuel.com slash tailgate to start earning with FanDuel Rewards Club. Must be 21 or older in select states, 18 and older in D.C., Kentucky, or Wyoming. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. Call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut. All right, we're back. Instigators. We had week zero. We want to point. We want to point this out, by the way. There will be no week zero next year. So that was the last week zero that we have ever seen in the world of college football. So North Carolina, the big storyline over the weekend going 1-0. Virginia was a huge storyline as well, dominating NC State. That was an incredible game for them. Memphis with the upset over UNLV. We'll get into our one big reaction based on those games that we saw. We also have one big guest, Cam Newton. But before we get to all that, Instigators for this week. Joel, we have to get a response for you because there was another clip that came out, Van. I know you're a fan. I know you saw this as well. Billy as well. Dominique Foxworth, friend of the show on his show, put together a video. They were talking about the San Francisco 49ers alleged receiver who basically went down in a whole Ponzi scheme. He was a con man. And then they put out the question to the people. Could Joel Anderson cross up or at least guard this man? And Charlie Kravitz and Dominique Foxworth had some thoughts. Dominique had your back, Joel. But you did not seem very excited about this video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This was Instigators of the Week. Do you have a response to this video? I'm going to take a page out of Jalen Hurts' book. Why do I have to respond? Your response is, why do I have to respond? It's a question. Yeah. Okay. It feels like you're fine bombing again. You said a lot off. It's going to take. I'm going to explode. Oh, you're going to explode? Let me tell you. Yeah, exactly. All over you. All over you. So let me tell you something. Oh, no. Let me tell you something. HR is coming. Yeah, that's an HR. Here's the problem, guys. Here's the problem. Is that we are all on a group text where Joel was bellyaching about this and said that he didn't like it. Said it. I'm just going to go ahead and break it. Said that he didn't like it. Not if you're breaking the code. Hold on. Hold on. It's not breaking the code. No, it's not breaking the code because we put it in the show. Other things we haven't put in the show. It's not breaking the code because we put it in the show. So Joel has this habit, and I don't know if the audience cares, right? Because he's the man. Let's face it. Fantastic podcaster of getting all riled up. And then when it comes time to actually give out some goddamn consequence, verbal consequence, you fine bomb. You're bombing right now. You're on the show. You're on that? Yes, you are. No. What am I supposed to do? What do you want me to do? What is the appropriate response since y'all are the gangsters in this room? Ain't no gangster. What is a real gangster supposed to do? Honestly, to be real, the fact that you could not have cared about it, like you could have made the choice to not care, that's actually probably, it's not that big of a deal, right? They playing with you. They think you a laughing stock. You the butt of their jokes on their podcast. They wasn't even talking about you. It was talking about some other guy, and they went, out of their way to pick on you. It's dudes like this in the back of the bus. Charlie and Dominique, before I'd even seen the video, Charlie and Dominique had apologized, and they said, I hope you don't get mad at us. Well, let's use Joel's actual words. But they still got their content off about it. It's the gang, right? And then they broke it out. Oh, my God. They clipped it. It's one thing to have done it in the podcast, but they broke it out. so that everybody can see what a fucking fool you are. I mean, they're using me to pump their numbers up. I appreciate it. I am that kind of a motherfucker. You did respond, Joel. You said this. You quote tweeted the video that they put out. You said, I officially invite Charlie Kravitz to ring your tailgate field day whenever it happens, if it ever does. And as I've mentioned previously, I'm good for running routes in the street in front of the studio. So that's what we need to do. So you opened up on our show saying you had no response, but you've already responded. Yeah, I released my public statement. And what else I got to say beyond that? I'll refer you to my Twitter account. So what I'm saying is, why not just say that on the show? Why not? It's not like you got to come out and call Charlie a bitch-ass nigga or anything like that. Tate, go ahead and say that. Never mind. It's not like you got to come out and do all of that. But why not just say that? Just say, do you think that Charlie can beat you in anything athletic? I don't know how to play golf. I'm probably not a good bowler. He's sneaky tall. Is he? How tall is Charlie? Yeah. He's probably in like the 6'2 range, I would say. Oh, OK. So Charlie might be a good athlete. I'm not hating on Charlie. He had no beef. Taller than Joel. But what I'm saying is right now is Joel had a beef. And now you don't want him. No. It's the same thing. No, I didn't have a beef. I did not have a beef. All right, man. Let's move on. No, no, listen. Listen, Ben. So see, OK, no. I'm like, I'm like. What I said was before. Let's move on. Let me just. I was. I was. I was doing a whole. I was doing reporting on Bill Belichick and Tupac all day. And you know what I'm saying? It's I'm busy. I'm in the middle of interviews with people talking to Peter King, people like this and shit. And at the end of the day, people call me. There are people who send a message. Oh, wow. What's this? I hadn't even seen it yet. And so I. So I'm seeing it. People are trying to antagonize me while my head's in another space. And so I'm like, I'm inclined to be like, what the fuck is this? And then. I saw their text. Hey, man, we did some whole shit. That's what they said. Yeah, they said it. They said it in the text. And so then I looked at it and I don't even think I've looked at the whole clip, to be honest. But well, you know what I'm saying? That's fine. Right. So they they apologize. They acknowledge it was whole shit. Charlie has an invitation. So fuck it. Let's tussle. Oh, gotcha. All right. Yeah. So you went from a Jalen Hurts no response to let's tussle. Yeah. Well, we did. We did have a. We did have a private conversation amongst the three of us where we were like, I think we may need to stick up for Joel here. And like, if Joel's not going to stand up for himself, we may need to put our foot down. I don't want you. I don't want you on my side. I want you to stay over there where y'all live. What are you talking about? I didn't even expect your support. How are you making us the enemy? Why? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. It's a million guys across the nation faking like they. Play for the 49ers, right? Doing crazy route combinations that nobody would believe, right? Shout out to all the women that believe this, right? You got what you asked for. None of us took this opportunity out of no reason to be like, look how whack Joel is. No, but not one person on this podcast. There was a podcast that did it and it could have been good natured ribbing. Love the guys, right? But why are you coming at us when they're the ones that went? Joel could lock this guy up. And we didn't. We didn't do nothing. Why? Why do we know? Y'all are engaged in some whole shit. Y'all want to be something. You know what? I know. Look, I know. I know. I know who my I know who my allies are and I know who my enemies are. OK, your allies, your allies are the ones putting out videos, making fun of you and your enemies are the ones trying to defend you. Right. I got it right. I think you've been warned. I know. I know where the bread is buttered. It's not over here. OK, cool. What? OK. OK, Joe, let me ask you something real quick. Joel knows. OK, let me ask you something real quick. All right. Seriously. Seriously. I don't want to answer more questions. Because we're going into the season. Go to my Twitter. Wait, we're going into the season and we need to be. I'll offer you my Twitter account. We're going into the season. You're coming in town and we need to be on one accord. So let me just ask another question. Would you like us to put to bed the idea of fine bombing? In its form that exists right now, because it sometimes seems like you have like you did it with Todd. You're doing it right now. What did I do with Todd? You fine bombed. That's not a fine bomb. No. A little bit. A little bit, bro. You fine bombed a little bit with Todd. You all are not. You all are not good arbiters here. OK. You're just not. OK. Because you all are inclined to make it to interpret the worst circumstance for me. Without Todd, you said that you could do his job better. That's what you said. I didn't say it. Oh, my God. I didn't say that. For sure that you made your own mockery. Run the clip, man. Yeah. Todd is an inspiration in a way. I started doing my top 10. That's a good idea. Now Todd's an inspiration. Now you Whitney Houston. You were so nice to us, too, man. Yeah. It's like weird. Like you were on me. Why y'all talking about this and Billy getting my fucking tape equipment? Where is that at? Y'all got time to talk about this shit. We have been a week now. Where's my tape equipment? What equipment? It's just a login. Whatever. I think it's a website. I want it. Yeah. Talking about that. I want my tape equipment. It's just a site. Go to your VC, y'all. It's a password. Okay, whatever. It's a site that they go to, dog. Yeah, well, what's the problem with getting me a password, then? I think we all need it. I think we all need the password. We all want a grind tape. I want a grind tape. We'll see. All right, good. We'll all grind tape. We'll have a grind session. Butter and buns, grind session. Grind session. Nose balls. Nose balls. Nose balls. Hey, okay, but all jokes aside, we really do appreciate the Dominique Favre podcast. I fuck with Dominique. I fuck with Charlie. Yeah, Dom's good. It was good natured fun. It was a great video for me. They called me athletic. Right. Since Joel's not going to do shit, just keep taking a chunk out of his motherfucking ass the whole time. Every time somebody fucks up, they superimpose you into the video, dog. Yeah, I haven't seen the whole video. They have production value with you, bro. Maybe that's the first tape that we grind. Maybe we watch it. Bro, they superimpose you into the video, dog. Ooh, that's a good idea, the grind house. Oh, let's do this. First tape, we grinding. We grinding the tape of you against Dajon Love. Do y'all care about the season or not? We're going to talk about football. I want to see how the grind tape of the games that actually happen. I've been trying to get something other than the All-22 version of that UNLV Memphis game, and I can't get it because I don't have the password that I need. Billy, and you said you could do it. Connor, you did too. You did too. You did too. So somebody, you know what I'm saying, make it happen. I want my code so I can get up to date on grinding tape. So yeah, anyway, and yeah, man, I said what I had to say about Charlie and them. I said what I had to say about Charles. So I don't have no problems. And if, look, whatever, man. You only have problems with your co-hosts. I stand on it. I stood on it with Todd. Yeah. I don't know who else we have. I'm looking at how we're doing. The highlights of the Reggie Bush Fresno State game. Joel said that he didn't do shit, but he did not say he didn't do shit. I did not say that. I'm looking at the game right now. Jack said it was the greatest performance in college football history. And I was like, I just, I don't agree with that. Yeah. I mean, you got it. It must be an L.A. thing that y'all ride Reggie Bush's dick so hard. Everybody else is so excited about Reggie Bush. He was great. And I will say this. Anybody that knew me at the time. When the Houston Titans had the number one pick, I was like, man, pick Mario Williams, not Reggie Bush. He reminds me of a souped up Eric Metcalf. And actually, well, I'm going to leave it go after that. No, go ahead and do it. But I was right. But I was right. So you're right about Reggie Bush the whole time. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Just wait. Just wait. Just wait. Just wait. Just wait. Just real quick. On record, right now, you are saying that Reggie Bush was nothing more than a souped up Eric Metcalf. Let's see Eric Metcalf. Hold on. Just can you just. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's cut that out. Hold on. That's what you're saying right now. As an NFL player. Okay. As an NFL player. Okay. Yeah. I know Reggie Bush. And at some point on this show this year, Reggie Bush will probably appear on tailgate. I got to hit Reggie up. Now, if Reggie Bush comes on this show and you don't tell him that you think that he is a souped up Eric Metcalf. By the way, Eric Metcalf was a bad motherfucker, by the way. He was a bad motherfucker. Yeah. So I'm not in any way dissing Eric Metcalf. But if you don't say. I wanted Mario Williams. If you don't do that, that would be fine bombing. See the cash shit that you're talking right now? No. You're talking cash shit. And you're talking cash shit. So you want it. So see, you know what I'm saying. I'm a Saints fan. Of course I wanted Reggie Bush. No, no, no. Listen. Hold on. What's the old dude that has uncomfortable conversations with white guys? I know that you see, you like having that sort of conflict. Emmanuel Acho. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't invite people on my show to antagonize them. That's not the kind of content that I want to do. If Reggie Bush comes on to this. If he comes on air, I'm going to be like, Reggie Bush. Nice to meet you. You are a fantastic college football player. But you're just going to talk shit about him when he's not here. Yeah. Well, I think the good news is that Freest marked this for the future. Yeah. And we'll just bring up the clip. You don't even have to ask. We'll just play the clip for Reggie and get his reaction. Yeah. Play it. That's fine. That would be nice. Eric Metcalf was a bad motherfucker, man. Like he was. Yeah, he was. good player great player yeah speaking of great players we got a great player joining us on the show here we got cam newton he is going to come here he's going to raise the roof he's going to break down some of his favorite cfb memories he's going to talk about auburn a little bit as well got some fun stuff uh great to talk to cam newton uh and that is happening right now after the break ringer tailgate is brought to you by fanduel fanduel is now available everywhere seriously everywhere so california texas georgia and florida you can finally get in on the action at home the game and whenever the group is together watching fanduel makes sports more exciting because every fan can now celebrate your team winning or when your group chat calls the comeback so wherever you are you can get in on the sports action with fanduel download the fanduel app today fanduel play your game agent location restrictions apply product availability varies by market see fanduel.com for eligibility gambling problem call 1-800-GAMBLER this episode is brought to you by american home shield you're ready for football on saturday the grill's hot friends are over kickoff's minutes away then boom your fridge puts itself on the injury report don't let appliance and home system breakdowns ruin game day get a home warranty from american home shield with plans starting at 29.99 a month ahs can help repair acs plumbing and more and if they can't repair the covered part they'll replace it no matter how old why can't the transfer portal be this easy to follow get 20 off any plan at ahs.com tailgate and see promo for details see ahs.com contracts for coverage details including service fees limitations and exclusions american home shield don't worry be warranty all right joining us as promised heisman trophy winner former number one pick and uh a friend of the show here we got cam newton joining us right now cam how you doing football season starts on saturday how you feeling man man everything good war eagle uh i'm expecting big things from uh coach golish and his coaching staff just like every you know auburn fan right now we undefeated before we get into the show cam we like to raise the roof joel anderson actually invented this back in the day so you guys roll it up yeah you know what i'm saying that's what we do yeah you are cam let me ask you something man what makes you like obviously at the beginning of every season the fan base is optimistic what makes you optimistic about auburn football and coach gold's this year we got a quarterback that is not afraid to run and i i say afraid too because nine days everybody want to talk like they got none but nine days people just feel that the quarterback position should only be played one way and that's not the case i've suffered from it lamar jackson is suffering from it right now where people are questioning your style and i believe the ultimate gamemanship of football is hey get to the last rectangle on the field that's the end zone if you throw if you run if you whatever just get there with the ball in your hands and from the film and the footage that i've seen from from byron it's just been something where it's like okay he can run and he he's not afraid to run i think too many times quarterbacks feel like oh man well i'm not throwing in that man listen bro be effective and the more more different things that you possess to the defense as things that they have to get prepared for do it so well what quarterbacks do you think have fallen victim to that because you're right it did seem for a time and like for you something like they talk about in houston how cj don't run as much anymore or whatever and so it can it seems like it's it's a criticism that can sometimes get in the heads of quarterbacks have they been into the quarterbacks that you've noticed that with current yeah or in recent memory in recent memories for sure you know i shared a field you know on saturday with uh i think rg3 got you know penalized you know with that type of stigma yeah um i think josh allen i think any lamar jackson for sure any any dual threat quarterback has been through that stigma or stereotype are you going to keep running as if to say if matthew stafford tom brady peyton manning drew breeze uh aaron rogers ever had shoulder soreness and said hey reporter are you going to keep throwing like i mean you're throwing it too much like that's what makes me good you see what i'm saying right like nobody asked patrick bowles or joe burrow like bro are you going to keep throwing you through the ball 50 times yeah but at the end of the day your job is to make it to the last rectangle on the football field and if you're able to do that no matter how you get there legally if that's within the confines of the sport then you should do it so let me ask you one question on it one more question on this jayden daniels guy from my school lsu is a dude who has dynamic running ability right but cam sometimes he takes some hits what do you say to the people that say when you run the ball it does expose the quarterback to hits when the team's goal on offense is to protect the quarterback and the hits that the quarterback takes sometimes shortens their career or their overall effectiveness the biggest misconception of cam newton's career is that he had a very physical running style that impacted his tenure in the league that's false oh you don't think that's true my injuries came in the pocket brother as a runner it's almost like it's almost like being in an uber or a lift whatever you're driving or somebody else is driving you in hopes to get you to that destination when you're in the pocket people are protecting you where you just we're shooting our show fourth and one and one of our uh associate producers was saying like hey why didn't jackson dart see the rush coming he's like well first off the the line is sliding this way he's assuming that he's protected because he's in the box count of guys getting protected you you you you don't see the rush or you're not supposed to see the rush you can feel it but you're not supposed to actually be looking at it while guys are you know running downfield but i say that to say i felt more protected when i was running the ball because i can take myself yeah so that uber analogy is you go from riding in a car to driving the car i know when to stop i only can say stop stop stop stop stop stop stop and hope that it stops but when you're running for jayden daniels he's well aware of his protection and it could be something as simple as slide it could be something as simple as go down it could be something as simple as go out of bounds and i was guilty of of of being the hammer when i was running but you never saw somebody just haul off and hit me when i wasn't the aggressor that was always my tactic it's like i play a position that gives me the ability to say okay nah i can't run up against buddy but you know if i'm ready i'm like okay i know i can i can run over buddy so that was always my mentality just turning back the clock a little bit uh cam to your time in college uh you know you mentioned it like being able to decide hey i gotta i gotta make a play here i gotta get a first down i gotta run i gotta do whatever it takes here um do you have like kind of a favorite moment or memory from your time at auburn where you were just like that was the game whether it was the georgia game the iron bowl comeback like a time where you're just like i'm gonna have to take over this game and it actually can just do whatever i want on here uh that's a great question and and we had a lot of success at auburn i am and i always attest we wasn't the most talented team we just was the best team you know like everybody knew what they were there to do you didn't have guys bickering or complaining and saying like hey bruh why they ain't throwing me you know why we can't stop it man why i can't man stop it you know you're not supposed to be like we we never had that it got to the point now where coach stop being cute give cam the ball all right cool give me the ball and if everybody does their job i can take on one guy you feel me so that game to me was lsu why lsu is because that was the game where lsu that year was the favorite in the sec if not the the the national spectrum they were bullies they had the number one defense they had patrick peterson they had uh clayborne they had honey badger they had a slew of different talent and leading up into that game we were successful with teams but versus the bully though how you gonna react versus the bully where i'm from by way of wakanda by way of atlanta georgia you don't get no reps by doing that against the rye or university of phoenix or itt tech you get no reps by saying what you do with somebody well you're not supposed to be doing this and lsu was the game that we weren't supposed to have the success the heisman moment run was only the heisman moment run because it was versus lsu i've had way more sexier runs versus lesser talented teams you know when you talk about the art no no shade arkansas states or you know the the akron's or the elon i'm supposed to do that but versus the teams that you're not supposed to do it to then okay that's how we you know you know we're not supposed to do it to then okay that's how we you know we're not supposed to do it consider something i got a question though van can you step up i'm stepping up right here what's up what's up do you feel a way that lsu is accepting former nfl players oh i i do i absolutely do i i feel i definitely feel a way like on this podcast and look once again i'm a fan baton rouge born and raised i love lsu right but on this podcast i've talked about the slippery slope that college football is in uh from having these players come back and the way that this works and i'm not to the point to i love the tigers almost more than anything in sports but i think this is wrong i think it's wrong i think it stunts the growth of the younger players i think it leads off of a cliff as far as like what where college football is going i understand the point that is made about this particular issue and i think it's wrong i think it's wrong i think it's wrong i think it's wrong with the class of 2022 and how they got robbed of their year from the way that this decision came out but i do not like this uh now when they suit up for tigers man we some motherfucking tigers that game that you're talking about that game is the right answer because we watching that game and the if people go back and watch the game the game is nipped up the game is it never gets away from lsu but when you took off you ran away from patrick peterson and i remember me and my daddy was watching that my daddy was like nah we ain't gonna win like it's like it was you couldn't then pp was on you and you ran away from him and i was like oh no this nigga real like this this this this this is this that is the the game that i realized that the cam newton shit was all the way for real but i'll say this though it within the game within the game there was an aura there's an aura that georgia plays with there's an aura that alabama under nick saban played with there's an aura you know was that less mile i think that was less miles played with right they wanted to run the football they wanted to dominate the the the line of scrimmage and the point of attack the first quarter the second the first and second quarter that's where you impose your will where you're trying to make your opponent break from extracurricular talking or taunting before and after the during the play blah blah blah and at at that point there were moments in that game where it went from rah rah rah to oh nah bro hey you're true yeah and that's an appreciation that you have where it's like oh yeah yeah he wanted to but if it was versus anyone else nobody would feel that way yeah you know i'm saying and and with me having so many connections to the youth with having my all-star team and things like that i'm like bro we're playing a team that that's expected of you if you have the same performance versus a team that you're not supposed to or or quote-unquote not the favorite i will respect it more that's why we have vegas odds vegas odds vegas odds have you doing that when you're not the favorite let's see what you would do joe you were saying something i don't know if we cut you off no no no no not at all because um well i wanted to go in one of two ways because i wanted to follow up on the jayden on the jayden daniels piece of this because we we had this debate up here the other weekend obviously at auburn they retired your number last year right uh and i know that that probably was a big deal to you i'm sure you really appreciated that and we've been talking about what's been going on in the last couple of years what's been going on with jayden daniels at lsu and a lot of people can say and a lot of people have told me that they don't agree with the way jayden daniels did it but what i'm thinking about on the other end cam is how lsu has responded in that they've mocked him put the number five number up those video or the kids you know talking about number five in the locker room and the reason i'm asking you is this there's something i've sort of noticed over the years and i want to see if you are seeing this trend either i think i grew up in a country where you're rooting for warren moon no you know i'm a houston oils fan and there was a regard we had for black quarterbacks and the players have for black quarterbacks at the time that they were almost heroic because everybody knew what it took to get to that position but i've noticed over the last couple generations there's been sort of like a uh a degradation in the admiration people have for black quarterbacks and they get treated in ways that white quarterbacks don't because i think about how like the seahawks were talking about russ and criticizing him or when gino got assaulted in the locker room or how people talked about donovan or even kelvin benjamin your former teammate talking about your accuracy in the media and i'm just wondering if that's something that you have noticed yourself about the way sometimes great black quarterbacks don't get the regard that they got in the past this is a very touchy topic and i just attested to we can't be so sensitive i think yeah it is something special to be a minority quarterback all right but also what jayden daniels did it may not have been him but what we should learn from this is we don't care if you were responsible or not your team put out a message and nobody cares that it was john doe public a pr person on jayden daniels team reaches out to lsu it's going to always go back to jayden daniels was it a good look for him i don't believe it was and he now of course had to rekindle and say publicly like hey that was my team doing it but my message was it is hire your hire a team or y'all come up with a plan collectively because if somebody goes out here where and they they joke about jayden and his mom's relationship all the time it's like if your mom go out here your dad go out here your uncle go out here and they're like hey jayden and speak on your behalf this still is a representation to you i think all athletes should take into consideration and i don't even think that there's a natural way to find this out but all athletes should find out why you're getting recruited by that school do you guys retire numbers and if it's not important to you then it is what it is if it is important to you that's just something to consider i decided to go to blah blah because they were tired numbers i plan on having my number retired and i don't want nobody else to wear blank number when i get done those are my intentions when you went to a school that doesn't retire a number from what my research tells me that there's only one number retired does anybody know what that number is is it billy cannon billy cannon's number yeah yeah number 20 yeah who the hell want to wear number 20 anyway i'm like that's the only number out of all the greats that that came in came through lsu the joe burrows is not even retired the the patrick peterson's that seven number is passed down all right that's what that's the that's the tradition is to share yeah but i guess the thing is is though it's one thing to say that he that him and his team didn't handle it well but i don't think on the other end it should be like where at this point i don't think lsu would make they don't have to they didn't do that like joe like this lsu didn't like hold on they they didn't let me ask like this is this is anti lsu hey they didn't do it let me ask you a question okay go ahead like you wore like uh you wore what was it number two right at at auburn right let's your your numbers retire let's say two years from now there's a kid in alabama in texas in florida that is has passed for 4 000 yards in the season has ran for 1500 yards in the season he is a amazing crazy i'm just giving you video game numbers he is the man he's six foot four he is 225 pounds he runs a 3940 yard dash he like he does he is a dog he's not he's not he's a dog he wants to come to auburn but he wants number two would you allow him to wear the number he is the Five-star, nine-star, number one. recruit dual threat in the pocket all of it like you know the obamas he could sing play the guitar he is the man a once in a generational recruit would you let him wear your number my question is what's his name i mean his name is michael flowerson whatever michael flowerson respectfully p-h-u-c-k-n-o exclamation why why is because with those measurables when it's all said and done for you you will want your number cemented and you don't want it to to be to think that you want your own legacy yep so whether it's number two you don't want it to be to think that you want your own legacy whether it's number 22 whether it's 12 i think that's my stance on it i wouldn't want nobody else there's only one other place that i've played in my professional career that has had my number and what am i going to tell the new england patriots don't give a.j brown number one it just didn't go down like that everywhere else was just a respect like yo he was here we know how we feel about him and that and i'm blessed beyond measure to have had that impact on programs or franchises there was a situation that happened last year around this time where a person who's no longer at auburn asked to wear the number deuce he's at home he's like my name is deuce i say that's cool but this was before i even know my number was getting retired like bro create your own legacy now opposite of how i think i think michael irvin's mentality of his number yeah it's super dope i love we've seen the michael irvin's with 88s we've seen the dance bryants with number 88s and now cd land they're creating a tradition similar to lsu yeah to the quote-unquote guy you can't wear that number and not be the guy right but i i feel different i feel like bro why would you want to wear underwear that's already worn like bro you done got everything i did that underwear you know what i'm saying like it's it's it's nothing that you could do because for me i believe that my stance or my take during auburn was i won a national bra i grand slam i won a national championship i uh i won the trophy i won every single award that a person could win why would you want that to be the comparison and i don't think that that's fair to him or anybody else that will wear that number i did want to ask you just about your recruitment you know what i mean from blinn obviously when you were at blinn you were just incredible i remember that freestyle that you did i don't know who number 26 is but that's one of my favorite videos of all time when he's dancing when you're getting ready for the game there um you got mississippi state coming after you auburn coming after you i'm a carolina guy butch davis i remember was talking about hey we got this guy from blinn college that we're trying to get here to come play quarterback for us even though we're not going to be able to tj yates was already there so all these schools are coming after you and i just wonder like in today's model nil model like what is cam newton looking at when it comes to i mean financially i mean you might have made five to ten million dollars uh you know if you did this back in you know 2022 2023 compared to when you did it back in 2010 man that would have been some pressure that would have been applied that's all i gotta say give us a number what what was to get cam newton to be the number in your head and consider everything that happened yeah in today's model consider everything that happened like you just said a second ago heisman trophy national championship all the awards first national championship for auburn in forever like what would it have taken what would be the number who's making the most what do you mean oh yeah you're talking about right now so chambliss is up and around that so he's probably the highest player quarterback in college now yeah yeah they not me so so my negotiation tax is gonna be simple if i'm telling you i'm coming here to win a national championship all right if i'm telling you i'm going to be one of the absolute greatest players to ever wear this uniform if i'm telling you that i'm going to give you everything that you could imagine and some oh brother brothers and sisters man hey listen uh i ain't gonna play around with you bro so if i would i wouldn't even want to snip my wings come correct that's what i would say but it wouldn't even be healthy because my focus would be about something rather than proven people don't know what went into that year and yeah i was in search of something that i never got at the university of florida urban meyer told me i could not get a national championship ring even though i was on that team to go it was a vow to myself if you didn't want to give me one i will go get my own i was working out i was preparing like a man possessed right that's what i was that's what was going on and i was like i'm gonna get a national championship ring i'm gonna get a national championship ring i'm gonna get a national championship ring i was in my spirit in my heart so it was something beyond money that i was in pursuit of i was sharing a locker with a person or sharing a locker room with an individual that they believed was better than me and yes he was great but i didn't believe he was better than me and if sometimes you take even the most smallest chip to put on your shoulder to make you become a better version of yourself do it i played behind tebow i did not think that team tebow was better than me but i had to prove it i didn't get to just say he's not better than me and then that would be the one-off be-all it was up to me to say hey what you gonna do with your opportunity so people forget i was only at auburn for a year and that legacy will live on forever but what went into that year was way more than what the camera could show so what went into that year was way more than what the camera could show so what went into that year was way more than what the camera could show so what went into that when i see players and they say like yo bro like i want to it's like bro what i what i sacrificed what i what i gave the game it gave back so that's what my investment was i want to ask you about part of that 2010 thing because i'm guessing obviously that's a fantastic year for you you become a national star you're living out your dreams in public in front of everything and then i'm just thinking about in retrospect though they really created a lot of turmoil in your life with your father like your father couldn't even watch you play in the national championship game like so did when you think about 2010 does that sort of stuff come up as much as the high points as well yeah like people don't i was angry like when i played lsu my dad wasn't in the stands like i was mad you know i'm saying like i that's why i was running over people that's why i was fearless it's like bro this is my superhero and whatever stigma that the the world has created with black pop that that wasn't who cecil newton was man he was there i i still look for my dad's appreciation and approval and and standpoint of what you think about this pop man pop i just signed for it what you think yeah son but he just gave me perspective he from atlanta you know and he ain't he'll never be in front of a camera you know i'm saying so when when they stripped that away from me it made me feel a certain type of way and all i had on my mind was somebody has to pay for this and i hope i played like it because when i felt like my back was against the wall and it was like what what you gonna do it's almost like anybody in the hood be like but what you gonna do though no matter how mad you get i'm still gonna have my way well that that's what the day where i stood up and said listen i got something to say about it and i and i'm gonna do something about it but there were so many factors during that season that it's glossed over now but yes i was in a real life ncaa investigation which had a connection to the fbi and the fbi just like the ncaa has a quote-unquote sovereign rule that gives them autonomy to check anything so old phones new phones cameras uh uh bank accounts bank statements where do you get this from where do you get that from they did a thorough investigation heavy on the thorough and all those things all the while still trying to change my family's dynamic off of the game of football so i had it was a different energy that i was playing with let me ask you something else about that season before we get off that talk about a couple other things we sit down we're watching it we're watching me and my boy gino and we we sit down watching it watching the season happen and then we see something happen on the sideline tracy wolfson is on the sideline and she's talking about the cammy cam juice and then she picks up the bottle of the cammy cam juice and she tastes it and she squirts the cammy cam juice you know into her mouth and my nigga gino go man she's loving that cammy cam look at her and that clip and that clip has lived on with tracy wolfson in the sec championship game she drank the cammy cam juice right did you know that she had drank the cammy cam juice when she was doing it did they tell you she was gonna come over and sample the camping cammy cam juice how do you feel about her drinking the cammy cam and since then the clip has actually lived on with her drinking the cammy cam juice how do you feel about the clip overall all right so like i said i'm from wakanda by way of atlanta which is in the south anybody in the south knows we love our kool-aid we love lemonade we love anything sweet so even still to this day i've never drank alcohol a day of my life i i partake in wine but for me smoking cigars and drinking kool-aid is like a perfect advice yeah oh my goodness you know and and i'm i'm a substituted for espresso every now and then right but that's all cammy cam juice was it was well back in the day they didn't have pre-made gatorade you had to get the powder and then stir it like that well i knew where the powder was you know what i'm saying you know there's nothing like coming off a field and you're you're deprived or you're fatigued and like you drink like i'm drinking water i want something that's gonna change my my energy like oh it's like it's like a liquid candy and that's all it really was so when she drank i didn't i didn't expect her to drink it like that i didn't expect her to drink it like that i didn't expect her to get live and anybody who's not used to that that taste palette will be like oh yeah it is sweet but it's almost like you got a sip on that you can't go well i got two more i at least got two more questions cam can i um so people always were just talking about how big you are there was a whole song six five two fifty you know what i'm saying oh stop it come on man you know people always this mason cam shit you're doing you know what i'm saying it's gonna get you one day all right anyway we're getting cam the other cam but anyway but um you said earlier when you were running you was like sometimes i can run up against buddy and sometimes i can't run up against buddy who are the people that you think you couldn't run up against because there can't be that very many of them it just depends on the the situation of the game like if we in the first quarter i'm not gonna be reckless but knowing that okay it's fourth down and it didn't matter who it was i like i'm like i i said that in retrospect to considering the down the distance yeah the sensitivity of if do i have another opportunity to get it or who it was because some people didn't require uh even fall it was like yeah but some people it's like okay well who's that person who is that who is that person that you're thinking it didn't matter it it was more specific to position yeah you know any any secondary player it was never the same it was never the same it was never the same it was never the same now strong safety yeah maybe cam chancellor yeah but even for him and i and i've had numerous games versus the legion of booms yeah it's like ah okay it's that type it's that lsu type of game it's like they they're bullies so what what we going what we really doing yeah but you know all in all it's not one specific person that i'm not doing it because i think what football possesses is that kind of delusional aspect to yourself that gives you that it's like i'm me though like he ain't me like you may think that but he ain't me though you know so that was just the aura that kind of came with the style of of my play okay okay um my other question here is that you know in the year 2010 there was another undefeated rose bowl championship team that year the tcu horn frogs and at the end of the year auburn is undefeated and tcu is undefeated so do you really think of yourself as a full national champion when there's a whole other power forward national champion right joe went to tcu by the way joe went to tcu he played he played at tcu exactly and i'm an andy dalton fan not not not that year yeah they had a magical year but outside of andy dalton i'm like but oregon oregon was undefeated too yeah they were so it wasn't like it wasn't like it was like uh what year was that the usc oklahoma game where oklahoma jumped auburn for the national championship like yeah 2003 you know it's like we play who we were supposed to play so are you gonna throw tcu in there i'm like all right well tell me who tcu beat that year okay oh wait oh we oh we can definitely do that hold on derek he's like smu hey don't don't do that they'd be they'd be rice they'd be oregon state we'd be oregon state they were 24 they were number 24 tennessee tech baylor and smu and colorado state that's not an easy place to win wyoming byu air force at unlv at number six utah and they won that game 47 to 7 and that's at number six utah san diego state at new mexico and then of course we beat wisconsin in the rose ball boy that is the piss porous tissue i can't believe you just did that they beat a number four and a number six that year and two other ranked teams how many did i ever beat that year let's see so so i will flip it in this dynamic okay i'm not going to say that their schedule was weaker than ours our schedule was more stronger than than their schedule because i could tell you who we played against on those teams that we played against you see what i'm saying we played against the university of georgia team that had aj green we played against an lsc team that pat patrick peterson we played against alabama team that had julio jones we played against a a a a clemson team that had a bowen who also was a holly touted you know defensive lineman a south carolina team that has stefan gilmore we played against these teams that wow these are who we playing against a ryan mallet Arkansas team and that's just seven games out of a 12 to the 13 game gauntlet so when you talk about san diego state who did san diego who did smu have who like all these players i'm like i'm cool like you that's the thing joel my argument is i didn't have google a chat gbt club cole beasley cole beasley played at smu that year okay yeah shout out to him he good um cam let me let me let me ask you this is my last question so in your entire career you have an nfl mvp you have a heisman trophy you have the super bowl appearance you have so many things that you've accomplished high school junior college uh college and pro is there anything about cam newton's career that you would change looking back right now with your career in the media everything that you're doing you're a voice you entertain everybody wants to sit down and talk to cam um but looking back on that is there anything right now that you look at your career and you go there's one thing that i would change probably a super bowl but then you know when steven a asked the question would you trade in your super bowl with everything else that i got i'm like no super bowl for heisman you're not doing it for what super bowl for national championship you're not doing it what would you trade the super bowl for the nfl mvp no it's more super bowl winners than nfl mvps so i'll take the more exclusive group everybody always says like oh this is coming from a a person that's not a team a team player well let's put it this way if you have an opportunity to get something that somebody else could not have at your job would you do it or would you consider other people at your job i guess the question is what is the higher what is the higher achievement in sports like think about what you just talked about with everything that you put on the line to win that national championship in uh in in auburn i guess the question is is a personal achievement is one thing but do you think that team achievements mean more than personal achievements no i believe that personal achievements does matter in a team dynamic because we know who uphold or who upheld their end of the bargain right we know that we need 11 individuals doing their job the best that they can do it not one person trying to do 11 different jobs right i'm always reminded of of this this conversation because people who are not team players always bring up what you didn't ring you didn't win a ring well i'm like i won a national champion i've won like now in any dynamic i'm from atlanta georgia and and it's important to people to understand this nobody no like i'm living the um the hood american dream you cannot tell me what i cannot do like i'm from college park so to add to what i'm saying you know i'm from college park so to add to what i'm saying to have achieved what i've achieved is something that people from where i'm from they don't what you did what like me me at career day saying hey cam what do you want to be when you grow up and i'm like i'm just here to tell y'all i'm about to be the number one pick in the nfl draft i'm gonna be the heisman trophy winner i'm gonna be the the national championship i'm gonna take my team to the super bowl make an appearance i'm gonna be a maxwell award winner a dis award winner a that award winner and yeah my teacher would have been like oh that's so unbelievable i believe in you no you don't but i did that i did that in real life and sometimes it it it rubs people the wrong way because i have to remind them i'm not one of them the the the the the person who didn't match individuals success with team success because the only time that that didn't hold true was winning a super bowl but knowing what i know now about people even if i would have won super bowl they would have poked fun at nah well he didn't do that or no well it wasn't the same time it's like man come on i played in the era where peyton manning was was on the field where tom brady was drew breeze was like matt ryan was ben roethlisberger like philip rivers eli manning all these players were were were quarterbacks when i won the mvp so for for all that to still have my culture card where i can go to any spade table around america and pipe it up you feel i'm saying but also it comes to a time where it's like wow i forget yes you do whether it's auburn or it's carolina you cannot it'd be hard for you to erase the impact and i think impact does matter in regards to the body of work that goes into a an athlete what did you do to change or impact the game because when i first came into the league i had so many misconceptions and miscomparables oh man cam is like ben roffett uh no but cam's like michael i ain't a little bigger than well cam's like it i was before the time yeah you know when when michael vick came it was just like okay he's a better version of steve young or randall cunningham and these different things not to say that the warm moons didn't pave the way the steve mcnerris didn't pave the way the vince youngs the marcus russells the doug williams yes donovan mcnab you know that all those guys were like guys impacted me in their own right but now when we look at the league it is i gave an opportunity to others like others had gave an opportunity to me and that's all i really wanted it to be i love it last thing for me cam i just have to ask about this because uh it was a seminal moment in my life 2016 uh conference championship game nfc championship game you have probably the best game i've ever watched a quarterback play leading to that super bowl 15 in one season and you have gz and you have future on the sideline and that is an iconic photo in time how did that come about uh we got the picture pulled up right there like whoa that was just a moment for everybody where we're like man cam's the coolest guy on the planet and he is the mvp and this i felt like you were michael jordan in football at that point uh what how did that come about and then like what is the story behind that van's laughing at me because i'm so fired up he he he really this is the question of taste of life oh yeah man this picture i just want you to know cam this picture encapsulates tape like the greatest the greatest flex that i have as a player is this i remember having this conversation with mike shula uh he was the son of don shula yeah he was a quarterback coach and uh officer coordinator during that year and he was like man cam like why are you doing certain things or you you carrying on certain type of way i said listen ever since i've been in the nfl i've always had the comparables to hey why don't you go about it like peyton manning hey why don't you go about it like tom brady why don't you go about it like these particular players and i simply said i can go to where tom brady's from i can go to where peyton manning is from i can go to where all these great quarterbacks are from but they can't go to where i'm from so when you see gz and you see future that was a combination of i'm reminding people like bro i'm still from atlanta and i'm i'm repping it proud like these were these were the artists to be you know you had outcast you got gucci you got little baby now you got gonna you got thug you got so many 21 all these individuals come from the same place two chains come from the same place but to tie in sport to that now say hey to the younger generation i don't just have to be a rapper i could be anthony edwards the guys that have their own persona have their own style like man bro cam always right man he doing to me it's like bro you just got to be from atlanta to know you just got to understand when lou williams say bro i'm going to magic city for some lemon pepper wings it's just an atlanta thing so everywhere that i went i wanted to embody atlanta because that's where where i'm from it's more people with dreads than bald heads like that's that's just an atlanta thing so being cultured was what that picture embodies and i and i always wanted people to know like bro i'm proud to say i'm from atlanta georgia where the tea is silent um i love it uh cam we appreciate you coming on the show man a whole lot of fun chat with you good luck this weekend aflac kickoff baylor auburn gonna be a fun game uh good matchup war eagle uh for you and all the uh you know auburn fans out there and thanks again for coming on the show man we really wait before you go cam promise to come back bro y'all owe me y'all gotta come on my set okay all right we are waiting for that can't wait look hey listen hey listen no listen listen listen hey hey this is no bs bro in about two weeks i'm really taking this streaming to the next level so i'm creating i'm curating a a stream setup where you guys are more than welcome to watch the games with me and we just kick it you know i'm saying and no d riding you feel saying like it's just something for the fans because it's almost think the think the the manning cast what they do but do it oh yeah think of it in a more like a real you know play away you know i'm saying like so that's what i'm creating you guys are more than welcome to to show up and show out and i'll give you a little you know i'm saying something to bet with too uh thanks to our brand partner but yeah man so we'll we'll be in communication with that and i'm looking forward to it bro absolutely i appreciate you i love it thanks again cam appreciate you all right y'all be good man thank you this episode is brought to you by tic tac lace up and get your game on because the tic tac lineup just got a new teammate dr pepper tic tac this new double threat puts two of your favorite flavors into one box of mints and when two iconic flavors come together the result can only be iconic score big try dr pepper tic tac today there you have it cam newton coming on the show i mean i was i'm not gonna lie i i don't get starstruck uh too much but cam newton had me a little starstruck i i did not like my performance in that interview with cam newton i don't even know what i was saying to him but man he was a great hang and he invited us on his show right man i mean it sounded like an official invite sound like an official invite for us to go on hang out and stream with cam noon i think that would be a lot of fun i think we go out there and bring some of our tailgate chaos to cam news stream that would be great joel you down yeah fourth and one is great by the way peggy's hilarious peggy's hilarious it's a good show yeah yeah i mean if they have a great show did you see that they were in our uh instagram comments too can't i mean it's just something to be on the internet for a long time and see shit go down and you cam has been writing in that weird font for years and then for him to put that in our mentions dog i mean again tell me if you agree with this i feel like cam newton is like one of those dudes he can go pretty much into any black home in black america and people will be excited to see him yeah he's a legitimate celebrity and really accomplished at what he does i was very very happy that he came to sit down with us man yeah like he's just one of those dudes it's just like you know he's just one of those dudes that's just like you know he's just one of those dudes he i think he said it himself he's pretty much good in any living room in the country dog like that's just you know and you can see you can you can see it when he talks to us i i really didn't i didn't have that high expectations for the interview because i just thought oh you know he's talking to a lot of people he may be bored but he really man he was he was he was dope i hope you get to have him back yeah he was doing a car wash and uh he was supposed to do 20 minutes with us and he hung out for almost an hour so i wanted to salute to cam newton appreciate him coming on the show that was a whole lot of fun but now let's get into it one big reaction week zero van i'll start with you first here uh what was one big takeaway you had from the weekend so i was able to watch usc play san jose state and i expected physical dominance from sc particularly up front on the defensive side now i have to say they did not have jakeem stewart in this game he did not play and really across the game there were some other notable absences from the sc roster but i will say that the entire game it seemed as if san jose state had clean pockets to work with it did not seem like the front four of sc could dominate the front four of san jose state right um waifu got in there a couple of times and had some pressures but i'm looking at this front four from sc we'll have to reserve judgment to when stewart gets back but if they even with their twos or their remaining starters if they couldn't get consistent pressure on san jose state i think it's going to be tough sledding for them in the big 10 with some of the teams that they have to play man i was expecting them to be a little bit more dominant in the trenches on defense and i saw that so you left that game feeling concerned for the trojans not necessarily concerned a lot of people are going to look at the score and say that sc didn't cover and that uh you know the score the spread should have been larger but if you watch the actual game then you know that it was backups for SC that was in the game in the fourth quarter and San Jose State to their credit continued to compete in the game for the entire game right so they made up some points in the fourth quarter but I'm talking about when it was good on good and when it was good on good I saw clean pockets for San Jose State I saw an SC defense that you want to see running around creating havoc with their hair on fire and they didn't really do that from what I'm watching against an inferior opponent so maybe it's nothing or maybe it's a sign of things to come what about the fans uh the lack of attendance I mean that's obviously been a big talking point we got that in our headlines later Joey McGuire head coach of Texas Tech talking about that is that a concern Joel when you see an empty stadium there at the Coliseum I know that you know we already have uh some conversations kind of drumming up everywhere about USC fans being fair weathered and all this sort of stuff does that is that something you actually flagging you know worry about no I mean I guess if I ran the athletic department it would be something to monitor because yeah you want to have people come well that's the thing it was I understand it was over 90 degrees hot uh it's it's San Jose State you know it's a hard sell for people to be like I want to go out in the middle of that heat and sit down also Lincoln Riley doesn't really endear himself to the fan base very often you know he doesn't really recruit people to come to games like I I feel like I'm not going to be able to do that I'm not going to be able to do that like that's a part of it too well so yeah I would imagine that once they start winning or maybe by the time Oregon comes I bet the Coliseum is going to be pretty packed out for that game that week so you know but yeah I mean that's kind of the problem with the scheduling as it is now and this is why all these these leagues are consolidating is to avoid fewer of those games that have fewer of those games than we currently have on the schedule because you know I mean I understand why USC did it given what happened to my favorite football team I'll say this the heat in LA aided by obviously changes in the climate the heat in LA has been I don't know man it's been some oppressive type shit right damn really 80 82 percent humidity it's this is like the essence you know I'm saying so like I'm saying that for people that didn't want to come out this game was a little earlier for people who didn't want to come out and sit in the heat in downtown LA I can't really but for San Jose State I in no way can blame them yeah absolutely what's the weather gonna be like when I come out there this weekend dog man we back baby it's very I think it's cooling down it's the climate has changed we back we can't wait for Joel to come out here man fine bomber Joe balls baby yeah he knows balls uh Joel one big reaction week zero what stuck out to you yeah you can tell a motherfucker I'm not gonna like a stock uh you know so the thing that I was thinking about as I was listening to you know the TCU podcast and taking you know stock of everything everybody was saying and I'm just trying to remember kind of like I'm trying to remember in the midterm elections it's just like I'm trying not to make sweeping conclusions off of week zero just like I try not to overreact to polls now because you remember like last year when Florida became a top 10 team off of a win against Alabama and like a year later Florida State fans cannot wait to get rid of Mike Norvell so like I'm just trying to make it so that I don't read too much into this because things can change right like it's a and when I think about what happened Jaden Craig TCU starting quarterback is that really who he is he's making his first start with his team minus two starting receivers he had to play against the defense coordinated by the defensive mind of our lifetimes who had a whole offseason good to prepare for him thousands of ways thousands of miles away from home in terrible weather conditions is that really supposed to tell me who Jaden Craig is and who's gonna be for the rest of the season I don't know I would have liked it if he had played better but I'm just trying to be like okay it's a weird circumstance the favorite has lost in Ireland for the last five years so I was like maybe maybe maybe that's not what's what's going on like I was that's your one big reaction excuses I was sleeping through the coat I was like the coat was putting me to sleep yeah it's cope what you mean everybody everybody up here is gonna see their teams lose this uh like this year everybody up here look Carolina gonna lose the Tigers gonna lose my fucking Tiger and TCU has already got the bandwagon started with the losing bro I'm not saying they're better but nigga they lost right I mean I understand they lost but there's a context to every loss and I know that teams go over to Ireland and play fucked up like it's always weird and I mean TCU had like a crazy locker room incident going on in the background too so I just that affected their defense and one of their starting offensive receivers so it's just a lot of turmoil and they went to the weirdest place that you could possibly play and actually if I somebody's gonna have to explain to me the benefits of playing in Dublin yeah yeah really because like you were trying to get us to go and I was like it really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to go all the way over to Ireland for a college football game and they come back I don't understand the point of it in any world all right by the way when they pulled out back on Ireland and I saw Ireland in the shots that should look like Birmingham to me I didn't see like like oh wow I'm not using it I'm just saying yeah it kind of is okay but maybe not because Birmingham's nice Birmingham is a great thing Birmingham is a great town but like what I'm saying is when I when I saw Ireland on the thing I was like oh shit okay it look at what's the what's the big deal of playing a college football game in Ireland I wait actually this island is Dublin the hot shit or is it like the countryside outside of Dublin that people go to Ireland where's Stonehenge yeah I think it's Dublin's the city obviously like you're trying to get the city vibes but then the countryside's the the pretty part we're Stonehenge great golf over there Joel for you yeah I mean yeah right my reaction is that I hope that's not who TCU is and you're hoping that you get a better version of Jaden Craig I mean the fourth and two that a lot of people kind of went after him for yeah you know why didn't he just run for the first down I really don't think he was going to get there he wasn't gonna make it if you look at the pursuit that was coming after him he was not gonna make that first down I'll be honest with you guys I don't feel like North Carolina North Carolina could play better they left a lot of big plays on the field from the quarterback position they played well enough to win this game but North Carolina it's not like they went out there and completely dominated any way it was first game kind of same situation for them as well yeah that's true i mean that's absolutely right and i i'm not gonna spoil the story that i'm working on but i was like hey man you know that is still bill belichick like he knows football like i don't believe that he's a football idiot like things just went wrong last year and again that team wasn't so close to being they were pretty close to being a solid six and six seven and five team last year just and that's the game that they lost last year they lost those one score games and honestly that game was trending into a situation where they lose that game 17 to 15 right they score a touchdown there at the end for tcu and then north carolina has a missed field goal off a turnover and that's the difference in the game and then last year that's how those games ended up going and i think that's why you saw bill belichick i've never seen him have so much emotion yeah he was a game man yeah when billy edwards draws the offsides there at the end of the game and he does first down yeah yeah i mean we haven't seen bill belichick actually show emotion and emote like that since he got to north carolina now can i ask you a question to me when when was the last time because we can talk about last year if we want right but even then there was still some expectations when was the last time bill belichick had to deal with the suck and i'm not talking about him and jordan on a crazy night i'm talking about when was the last time bill belichick had to deal with the fact that people thought he was a good player and he was a good player and he was a good player and he sucked and when i watched him coach that game i saw him inch by inch yard by yard be into the performance of that team and that bodes well for north carolina season if that's the kind of dedication that he's bringing right now uh to the field yeah i mean look man he he he everywhere he's been the first year is a little weird like that is the story of his career even back into the nfl so yeah i mean i think that uh bill belichick is highly motivated to prove that he's not the idiot that a lot of people seem to think that he is and the laughingstock i mean look at what ben and terry did at the hall of fame like making a whole speech during his hall of fame speech about bill belichick you know grading his girlfriend's cheerleading competition like i think a lot of that is actually in his mind and he may act like he doesn't see it but he does he definitely feels and look last year sonny dykes i mean people talked about how much heat they took pleasure in embarrassing belichick like you heard they reported about that and talked about how he took a real good pleasure in embarrassing and like you know humbling that that staff the conference of 33rd nfl team so bill belichick probably remember that shit too he probably remember what sonny what sonny dykes had to say about him and their organization or what he heard that they said so yeah man he's a proud man i i i just don't think that they're going to be a horrible team in year two yeah they held him scoreless after the first quarter and if you look at just last year the difference i mean 38 points last year for tcu 542 yards allowed 258 rushing yards seven and a half yards per play yeah and then you flip it to this game 281 total yards 106 rushing yards and four and then you include three qb sacks in that as well so i mean this was a bill belichick defense obviously xavier lewis was the real star of this game two sacks four and a half tackles for loss and as far as setting the edge like they made some adjustments on the line especially the defensive line where they got a little bit more outside leverage and they contained jade and craig in the pocket and led to that fourth and two play where he wasn't able to get to the outside and get a first down easily i mean these are all decisions that were made by belichick on the defensive side after that outside zone by jeremy pain stopped working the tc didn't have another counterpunch they were just like absolutely belichick said it belichick said he was just like yeah they didn't really change up too much pain pain was running really really well and had a great game honestly like pain was running really well but it seemed like once they kind of got keyed in on what the fastball was coming from the offense there was nothing else to it and also a surprising lack of using the quarterback and the running back in tandem to get the running back going of taking some stuff that was short and easy getting the defense off their heels on their heels should i say to be able to free up some things in the late third quarter and fourth quarter of the game when the offense got a little stagnant like it was a really really poorly executed offensive game late during the clutch by tcu yeah then on the flip side we have to give bobby petrino some credit i mean he was drawing up some great stuff coach dan casey who i love does some great work puts out some great videos talking about kind of the modern triple option they were running where uh you know he had billy edwards was an option kind of as like a power a running option they had an outside threat with the running back and then they had jelani thurman who had a great game ohio state transfer in the flat and they had a couple times where that just killed tcu getting him out in space and getting downhill a couple times they missed them there's a throw that they left on the field it could have been worse billy and that was the rain a little bit yeah yeah that's right that's right wait what's his homeboy's name again uh billy edwards billy edwards why did i call him billy miller uh well because i have brain injuries but billy edwards he yeah he's a really good i mean he's a very solid college veteran qb he's not good but he's good enough and that's better than what they had last year with geo lopez and freddie kitchens now you've upgraded to a quarterback that has some ability and a lot of experience with one of the best players in the league offensive minds of the last you know two or three decades so yeah can we get can we get i know spend a ton of time on this but man going into last week tay you had talked about it a lot of people were talking about how nc state was a dark horse in the acc tom and shay talked about it with us they wanted they went from being a dark horse to one of the horses that people gonna have to pick because there's no beef left in the they got out there and got slaughtered what the fuck hell happened to nc state and everybody was talking about them that game was non-competitive yeah that was virginia dominating on the offensive line i mean i've never seen a team just run the ball down someone's throat i mean it looked like an old wisconsin team or something so uh you gotta give virginia a lot of credit in that game and cj bailey he was supposed to have you know kind of a breakout year quarterback he looked completely shell-shocked in that game 12 for 23 and 84 yards that's just not that's not the line if i feel like so i used to have a old sports editor who said that um barry sanders had a game we finished with like negative seven yards one time and he's like that's why he'll never be better than walter payton and so and i don't think that made any sense but i got where he was coming from that walter payton never played that bad in any one game and i kind of felt like 12 for 23 for 84 yards is one of those lines is like oh i don't know if you'll ever be able to play in the nfl if that ever happened to you in college like that's that was a really pathetic showing uh but shout out to tony elliott bro like maybe yeah doing a great job that they've just figured out something at virginia like they get old ass offensive linemen men that have worked jobs on i think their average is like 24 years old on the o-line yeah yeah man and so they figured out a little something and i've heard a little bit about their compensation package which is like they don't have to pay at the top end because they've figured out some other ways to induce athletes to play there so it could be that you know they've got something over there i know my dude malik don't want us talking about virginia because he said nah y'all stay over there y'all stay over there but now man virginia looked really good and they went to acc championship game last year i mean they should have won the acc last year they had 11 wins by all accounts they should have won that game duke kind of had the perfect setup to be the underdog to upset him in overtime so uh they should have been in the playoff and if they were in the playoff miami is not in the playoff and they don't make it to the national championship game are we gonna talk that's a real sliding doors moment are we gonna talk about the line oh nice 9-4-11 haynes king-esque 9-4-11 155 two tuds along a 47 through the air but then running the ball 15 carries 110 yards 7.3 that's a haynes king type performance right there from bow what is bow like was was he was 30 35 years old he's now in his third school because he started at penn state of course yeah and then he was at mizzou last year yeah so now he's at virginia man yeah what does senior mean anymore like there's no red shirt so it's like what is the fifth year no senior now actually means that you have an aarp card you are actually like a senior citizen now when you're yeah both actually not at all i think he's only 22 or 23 but but yeah so like he had a great game and he was able to go out there and get it done virginia looks for real at least in the acc yeah they look like a ranked team um that's for sure so you handle business against nc state nc state every single year though they get better as the year goes on so i suspect that they will be better by the time we get to october november so we'll see what happens there uh any more thoughts on uh week zero that stood out to you obviously unlv was supposed to send a message this weekend but memphis was able to come out and shock the world jackson arnold man you know like again he looked really good early in that game but by the end of it he had just reverted to the guy to the old ways yeah to the oklahoma and auburn fans were ready to get rid of man have y'all seen marcus stokes dog and i guess i had never looked him up all season i'm just i mean you say marcus marcus stokes i got a particular guy in mind you know what i mean go look up marcus stokes do y'all seen marcus stokes before i have not seen marcus stokes go look up marcus stokes marcus stokes memphis memphis got randy shannon on staff yeah randy shannon yeah yeah the name does not match the face yeah right oh i see what you're talking about yeah he looks like Mark Stokes yeah Yeah, I was like, who the. That's Marcus Stokes, but he's. Man, he's pretty good, dog. He's pretty good. You should see why he lost his original offer. I think he was supposed to go to Florida? And. Something like that. And he lost his scholarship opportunity because he said a racial slur. Oh, what did he say? He was performing a rap song. Oh, I know which one he said. What'd he say? Tate, what'd you think? Yeah, what'd you think? What'd you think he said, Tate? It can't be good. It can't be good. It can't be good. What'd you think he said? He said, the one for Treaded. But, you know, he looked like somebody who thinks he has that kind of. I worked in a place called. He's got a Jackson Dart pass, is what he thought. Oh, I remember when this happened. You guys remember this? I remember when this happened. You remember this? Yeah, I remember this happened to Marcus Stokes. Yeah. Marcus Stokes. Oh, good old Marcus Stokes. Marcus Stokes. Marky Mark and the Stokes bunch. Yeah, I remember when this happened to him. I remember this story. Hey, man, why did his mom do that? I mean, his resume's gonna get thrown in the trash so many times, he ain't gonna know why. I'm not talking about Marcus Stokes. Get the fuck out of here, man. I will say, Charles Huff, by the way, Memphis head coach, that was a great 1-0 for him to start his tenure there. Obviously, Silverfield leaves. A lot of people were down on Memphis, so that was a great start for him. Three schools. It's been three years for Coach Huff, man. You know, and if he keeps it up at Memphis, I mean, TCU, you know, come on over to death row, dog. Oh, man. Already recruiting a new coach. You know, when Charles Huff. Oh, man. Can I shout out another black coach right now? Yeah. Deshaun Jackson, bro. Okay. The work that he's doing at Delaware State. Eight wins last year? They had gone 2-21 over the previous two seasons. He won eight games at Delaware State last year. And they won their opener against a team that actually had a vote in the FCS poll. Stony Brook. So it's not like they beat some Division II school or, you know, whatever, some other MEAC school. They beat. I mean, man, when HBCUs beat a straight-up FCS school that has resources and whatever, that's a big deal, bro. It really is. And so shout out Deshaun Lewis, because I know that they're not working with a lot of money over there, but he's making it work, man. He's apparently a really, really good coach. Of all of these guys who. ex-NFL guys who made the trek to college football, it's more than just, you know, prime that made this happen. There are some guys that are having some success down there. We should keep up on that story as the year goes by. Yeah, man. We got to check out Michael Vick, bro. Man, we should go to Norfolk State. Go watch one of their games. Vick, Eddie George, you know what I mean? Oh, man. Yeah, Eddie George was a great story last year. Just a few more notes from Week Zero. Some teams to shout out. North Dakota State looked really good. Yeah. Made the jump to the FBS level. Looked like a team that can contend. Mike Norvell did not look the best with this FSU team, so maybe the writing is on the wall that we could be moving in a direction where he's no longer there. Stanford looked really good. Andrew Luck, his squad, looked like a team that actually has an offense they can build around, so that's something to point out as well. So, yeah. So, Week Zero storylines had actually, you know, checked out for us. So, there's some good stuff, some good stories. But now we get to Week One. We have some really, really good matchups. They start Thursday night. Coach Prime's already talking about how happy he is. Haynes King. Yeah, we're going to raise the roof. Raise the roof. Week One is here. Yeah. We're live, by the way. We're going to talk about it at the end, but we're live on Saturday. Joel will be out here. We're going to have fun. We're going to go live. Billy's going to be out there, too. Don't forget about Billy. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Billy, of course. We're going to be live Saturday in the fourth quarter of Clemson LLSU. That is the plan as of now. But Week One matchup, that's our one big question. What's the most interesting Week One matchup? Starts on Thursday. Like I said, Colorado, Georgia Tech. Friday, Saturday, Sunday, all the way into Monday. So it's a full weekend of college football. Vane, I'll start with you first. What's the game that stands out to you the most? Okay, I'm not going where people think I'm going to go. What? I think you should, though. Yeah, you should. I'm not going for that because I honestly don't think. He can't go for that. I don't. Oh. No can do. No, no can do. No, he can't go for that. I think the Twinkle Bowl is a really interesting. Damn. Game. What? Is that what you was going to put? This is why we got to do show prep. Because I thought you were going to do LSU, and then I was. So I'm going to rank these. I'm going to rank these games. Okay. So I go Twinkle Bowl, and then second, second, I go Ole Miss Louisville. Well, all of this talk about Louisville and how people expect Louisville to show up on the field. Ole Miss has. A lot of questions to answer. They have what some people believe to be is the best quarterback in college football. If Louisville is as good as people think that they are, and Ole Miss is going to answer the questions and make a run with Lane not there, that's a really interesting game. So I'd say even that was second. Of course, I'm an LSU fan. The game I'm always going to be the most interested in every Saturday is going to be the game that LSU is playing in. But those are two really interesting storylines in college football. It might be the best two running backs going head-to-head in week one, by the way. You know what I mean? Isaac. Yeah, that could be a matchup there to point out as well. UCLA Cal. The only thing that I'm worried about is I saw Tosh talking about how Cal hasn't even been able to prep for UCLA because they've had to focus on getting guys prepared in their own roles. So I think that bodes well for UCLA. So the Twinkle might start out in a good spot. That's an encouraging sign. That's a really fierce rivalry. Those schools. But until you move out to Cali, you don't realize how much those schools don't like each other. Yeah. Well, a lot of kids apply to both. I have some friends out here that like dad went to Berkeley. Son went to UCLA. Dad has a little bit of shade towards his son because he went to UCLA. There's a lot of that. Beautiful schools, man. I love those places. You love California, Joel. I really do, man. I love California. I'm excited to have you back out here. So there you have it. The Twinkle Bowl, UCLA Cal. That's Van's pick. Joel, what do you have? Well, I mean, this is Ole Miss, Louisville. it was going to be my pick but i'll just say something about lsu and clemson which is that and van i kind of want you to to are you are you concerned because the things that i think about with lane kiffin is that he's obviously a very good coach like very talented at assembling talent and getting a lot out of it but i also just wonder if there's ever a tipping point where the headlines and the chaos and the attention can distract from what should be going on on the field and i'm sure that could be overstated like maybe it's not affecting or impacting these guys at all but i just would have thought given how lane ended up in baton rouge people there's a lot of ill will for leaving a team in the middle of a playoff run and then stealing players from them and all this other stuff i just kind of thought he would have wanted a quieter entry into the season and so like does the noise concern you at all nope okay okay You like the noise You like the noise huh You want Daquan Wright It's not necessarily that i like the noise is that it doesn't concern me like it it it's i do not care at all here's the deal lane kiffin hasn't won a game at lsu yet right yeah lane kiffin has to go on saturday and prove that his football product can withstand the noise that his football product can withstand the noise that his football product can withstand the product can withstand the expectations that his football product can meet the standard of the fans and the culture of south louisiana anything that he has brought on himself or anything that the team or the school has brought on to themselves doesn't matter anymore what matters now is what happens between the lines in tiger stadium in baton rouge on saturday and it was going to be like that whether there was one headline or 50 headlines lane is not there's been about a hundred like lane was not gonna is not gonna be able to charm his way out of this there's going to be no amount of tweets that are going to substitute for what people expect in baton rouge there's going to be nothing that he can do to meet expectations in baton rouge except win in a dominating fashion what's your expectation for him this year what is what is that a good you I would say lane kiffin season like a good season a good season is would be the playoff right but like my expectation is nine and three but that's my expectation my expectation is nine and three it's a very expensive roster but you have some guys in some places in some positions uh that are gonna have to get used to playing big time football in a way there are holes on this roster if you have some of those guys that come along and like kind of uh you know fill some of those spots on the defensive line a place where you might have to play some younger guys if you had daquan right who is a more traditional past catching tight end rather than what trade as brings which is a more hybrid type of guy that answers some questions but it's not like the team doesn't have actual questions in terms of death and some other places so those things are gonna have to be worked out during the season and he didn't mention sam levin in the same vein as jackson dart where he's like i'm trying to train him to not make mistakes you know to basically accept hey this is a down that we accept defeat sometimes and go for the bigger play later in the game don't make huge mistakes that does seem to be a talking point are you worried about Clemson at all they're they're kind of in a perfect spot they're oh you know nine and a half point dogs there's really not a lot of conversation about them being able to go down there and make an upset happen so they're kind of in a perfect spot to make some noise so I'm always worried so you don't want to ask me I'm worried there's worry I've I've gone to games where we have brutalized gigantic college football foes I've also seen nip and tuck games with Troy at home all right so I'm always worried I think I think Clemson has a lot to play for and I think you're going to get a great effort but we're going to learn as much about the culture at Clemson as we will about the roster of LSU on Saturday yeah I was going to ask which coach has the most pressure on over the weekend I mean obviously you got Ole Miss with Pete Golding you got Lane Kiffin at LSU you got Dabo Sweeney with Clemson maybe you could say Mike Norvell against SMU potentially Joel which one kind of stands out to you I mean I feel like Lane's the right answer but there might be someone else I actually don't know because I mean no matter what they're not going to fire Lane like Lane is locked in for at least a good two three years right now so they're gonna have to put up with it even if it's disappointing this year uh my thought is not Mike Norvell because people seem already inclined to to get rid of him and the only reason Florida State hasn't done it already is because they broke you know and they can't do it and it'll still cost about 50 billion dollars to to buy them out if they fire him at the end of the year or at some point in the middle of the year so like you know it's already bad vibes down there in Tallahassee but man they look bad against New Mexico State and again don't want to overreact to week zero they're still learning out a lot about their team you know the roster heavy program because that's what Mike Norvell has had to do but you know I just man in my lifetime it's shocking to me that Florida State is going into a game this weekend against SMU and SMU is the favorite tough at home just just imagine that in life just somebody told you that even five years ago yeah SMU is going to play at Tallahassee and is a favorite that just that's crazy without Eric Dickerson playing running back yeah no Craig James you know what I'm saying no Richie Dupard well it's great name the horse all right was it the horse what Craig James was his name I mean it may be because of the pony express wasn't it Craig the horse James is that right are you being serious no I just thought wasn't his nickname the third leg Craig his nickname was the pony the pony I like the horse better that would have been a lot better ain't no way Eric Dickerson gonna let them call him that I know that I will say Sunday might be a better slate than Saturday just looking at the games Ole Miss Louisville we mentioned Notre Dame Wisconsin in Green Bay that's a really fun game you got the Apple Cup you got a rivalry game Wazoo Washington poor Washington State I think Washington State will be better than people think I will say that I think that game's going to be that game's always a little bit weird um a little bit closer than you I mean when Washington State was good you know I actually covered two Apple Cups Tate did you know that I did not I've covered two Apple Cups I got snowed in for the last one there was a snowstorm and we couldn't I couldn't drive back to uh Spokane Spokane's like an hour and a half away yeah that's where most people stay not many not many lodging options and yeah so we were stuck in a press box until late that night so anyway but when Mike Leach was there and they were at their peak Washington still had a stranglehold on them boys and so you know Washington State man they're just they it's unfortunate what has happened to them because the conference realignment uh and they were just kind of out there on their own for two years and so the coaches just keep leaving because they're just like man you know why would I stay at Washington State so they're starting all over again I wish them well because I think college football is more fun when Washington State is good but that's just a really tough situation right now in Seattle uh there will be obviously the sailgate happening with the Washington fans there'll be a lot a lot of Wazoo fans in the building so that'll be a fun game to watch uh Billy can you pop back in should we do our blind rankings? uh this is Billy's blind rankings for week one uh did you want to do that today should we raise the roof what do you guys think should we do this today or you didn't do you not want to do this because here's what I'm thinking I think that throughout the season we can do blind rankings every week based on the week before but there weren't really that many games so we could do a pre-season blind rankings if you want to decide where tailgate has all these teams ranked or we can wait till next week it's up to you guys Joel what do you say make Billy work do it now oh right I mean I'm not doing the work you guys are doing the work I'm giving you the teams you're telling me where they're ranked so we're we're ranking out of 10 right that's the yeah out of 10 yeah I'm gonna give you a team you tell me where they rank out of 10 people like having Billy on having more Billy on the show can only help the show so yeah Billy stay here let's do the game how do you I mean you don't seem like you want to play I don't want to number one that's not animus that seemed like I'm gonna be honest with you Joel that kind of seemed like oh shit like yeah that was some hater like what I said that we should have our teammate Joel no nobody is dumb that sounded like nobody is dumb that sounded like right there like you had a problem with Billy being on the show and you were kind of and you don't like the comment you don't like the comment saying that they want him on because oh no I think we should have Billy on more no I want to give the people what they want I keep today ready to fight for you for your name you never had you like not once in your life come prepared to fight for me I was ready to fight today if I had to you know step up to Charlie Kravitz I would have done it for you but you said nah it's okay no you were not prepared to do that Billy but that's fine if I have to I'm you know I'm still you know Billy said when did you text me over the weekend that I was moved by Billy you said something really nice as he typically does Joel yeah I don't like to point that out you like to remind people of the bad things it's everybody else is it you maybe you know hold on let me see what you said uh well Tate do you want to talk about your podcast while I look up my tweet Monday Music Club you want to talk about that sometimes I forget we're talking to Cam all right Joel where do you have Texas one to ten okay we're just gonna do 10 teams today you don't know who's next Texas first one blind ring dude are we gonna decide together yeah you can decide together let's decide together yeah all right Texas I'm gonna put Texas at three I have my three as well wow Joel uh six six okay so what's your average you want to put him like a four yeah it's about to be a nightmare with this nigga right oh Billy said you're the man Joel okay let's continue to go very moving stuff can we raise the roof for that yeah glad we stopped you're the man Joel all right Oklahoma Joel where do you got him uh uh nine nine okay I was gonna say five I have them at six okay okay let's say let's say six what is this game about are you gonna throw in a random team like Kentucky or something with LSU you don't you don't know who's gonna come 10 uh 10 10 wow too low for you Tate yeah but I'll stick with it 10 all right Miami two two three I was gonna go more so four but if if the twos winning with the twos have it then we can settle for three we could do three we already have three yeah let's do three let's do three all right Oregon one one yeah two but I get it but where do you have Texas A&M oh shit is that 11 we don't have 11 you can pass if you want you don't want them I uh seven seven for me I love seven too all right well I guess I gotta go with seven but I don't want them in my top 10 North Dakota State Joel 1-0 now part of Mountain West where do you have them well I gotta go nine now I like it let's go nine what's this game I don't know what is this Joel's you've never seen this no I feel like this should be better with graphics yeah this might be a flop honestly I I think this might be the first and last one we're gonna have a magic after the fact Billy can I tell you why it's a flop it's a flop yeah Joel no like like Joel Joel Joel is not committing to the game we're trying to play a game just just do this show I'm taking it too seriously do the show too seriously sometimes we sometimes we just gotta do the show okay do the show but that's it I'm gonna do it no more we do blind really don't do it it didn't work out who is it number nine no no no Notre Dame where do you have Notre Dame oh let's just go through three more teams two two okay we put Notre Dame at two then yeah all right where do you have Oregon Notre Dame Indiana oh that's five five five okay what's the last spot Ohio State well they got oh wow no they're neat now All right. That was the last edition ever of Blind Rankings. That didn't work. Can you read us the top ten? What did we end up with? Your top ten is Oregon, Notre Dame, Miami, Texas, Indiana, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Ohio State, North Dakota State, and LSU. Nuts. I don't know how North Dakota State got in there. It's like terrible. Terrible. Joel set us up. I don't understand how the game works. You get a team. I thought it was going to be a fun thing. You don't know who's coming next. You didn't want this to be fun. I'm sorry. I didn't understand how it was supposed to work. I think that was a practice run. I think it'll get better. We'll let the people decide. No, no, no, Billy. We're doing Billy's Blind Rankings. Billy, we're doing Blind Rankings. Billy, yes we are now. This is week zero. This is week zero, man. You're going to have to go watch some other Blind Rankings to get the conceit. What is it? Which show does Blind Rankings? Just go on Instagram. Maybe not your Instagram, but go to Instagram and do some Blind Rankings. You know what, man? I was actually going to apologize for that video. I said something about Mandy and I didn't want to offend Riley. I was like, oh, I didn't want to imply that you were some sort of a snake or something. You were hoeing around or whatever. What? You remember in the video? That's what Mandy is. Yeah, that's what I was saying and I was like, I don't know what I was trying to do there. You know, what was the name of the woman that Van said she knew you? Oh, no. What was her name? Say it. Oh, fuck. This is like the foot doctor all over again. Oh, foot doctor. I can't remember now. I can't remember. Was it Chelsea? Chelsea. Chelsea. Was it Chelsea? So I was trying to think up a white woman's name and It sounded good because it was like Mandy Moore or something. Yeah, and I just gave it up with Mandy. But I didn't want Riley to think that I was disrespecting her or something like that. But then you just, you know. She thinks you're hilarious, Joel. She cracks up. She actually texted me, Joel's the man. Wow. Really? Moving. All right. I like that. That's a good. You know what happens if someone says you're the man, Joel, to Joel? No nicer words can be said about him. That's really, it's up there. I like it. Oh, man. All right. There you have it. Our blind ranking. Billy, you feel good about that? Not at all. I was also distracted. Hey, listen. You guys. Kawhi Leonard. Breaking news. The NBA has ruled on the Los Angeles Clippers salary cap circumvention. Five first round picks issuing a $30 million fine and suspensions for Lawrence Frank, Steve Ballmer. What? Yeah. Oh, Kawhi Leonard has accepted full responsibility for this. Integrity and respect for this game are fundamental to who I am. I accept full responsibility for lapses and judgment by people within my inner circle and regret my distraction. Regret the distraction. This situation has caused the fans and my and my family. Let me see what the full. Oh, shit. Wow. Leonard has to pay $700,000 in restitutions for improper benefits by the Clippers for his uncle and his former business rep, Uncle Dennis. No contract void of suspension for Leonard. Hello, Uncle Dennis. And Robinson, who was fired by Leonard in June, is banned from the NBA in business dealings. Wow. Five first rounders, $30 million to owner Steve Ballmer. Suspensions for Ballmer, Lawrence, Frank and Gillian Zucker. Tell you, man, Ballmer should have bought the Seahawks. That was like, get in the NFL. Get out. I get why you would try with the Clippers, you know, because, yeah, I mean, it's wide open real estate. Clippers are cursed. I don't know what they did. I mean, obviously, Donald Sterling. We know what he did. But no fan base is better equipped to handle this kind of disappointment than the Clippers. Yeah, this is nuts. Massive win for Pablo. Damn. Yeah. This is legit consequences and a very consequential story, right? That's right. No consequences for Kawhi, really. He still keeps all the $40 million or whatever. That's very true. $700,000 in restitutions. And he goes to Toronto. He doesn't have to worry about any of this. Why don't people call what Billy does hate? I mean, I was kind of. Do you think this is punishment for Kawhi? I mean, we're talking about vindication of Pablo, not about vindication for Kawhi. So, you know, that Pablo is reporting. Ballmer must have approved this, correct? Like, there was reports that he was negotiating. Because if not, this has Ballmer suing everybody under the sun after he didn't agree to this, right? Yeah, exactly. I think that was probably the part of it. Negotiating the punishment. But yeah, Kawhi learned $700,000 restitution. Every time I hear the word restitution, I think of like that Hard Knocks clip with the guy doing the Shannon Sharp impression. You guys, you guys know that clip? No, go ahead and do the impression. Oh, yeah. Go ahead and do the impression. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, don't do it. Don't do Shannon Sharp. Don't try it. I'm not going to do Shannon Sharp, but it's an incredible impression. Isn't it crazy they did all this for nothing? Like, Clippers didn't do shit. What was this even for? I mean, man, Kawhi could have been over with the Lakers with Brian, man. I mean, the truth is that Uncle Dennis is hilarious. Like, the fact that he was openly trying to take deals under the table and everybody Do we get him on the show? Yes. Yeah, I'd love to get Uncle Dennis. I would love to get Uncle Dennis. He's probably my favorite NBA character. He's like a last of a dying breed of just like, yeah, this is what it is. I run my nephew's life. All right. Well, that's a nice update there. That was a headline. Maybe that's one of our top headlines. Let's get into some more headlines. from the week. This is also a fascinating one. SEC school executives are exploring extreme measures in order to address LSU's attempt to add former professional players. This is from Ross Dellinger, Yahoo Sports. There are apparently potential measures could include boycotting competition, sanctioning the school with probation or expulsion from the SEC van. Are you worried the SEC and LSU might be in a war here very soon? They don't have the balls. Hey, everybody. Click. Everybody click that link that I just put in the chat. Oh, no. Yeah, everybody click that link that I just put in the chat. So I'm not worried at all. Something will get figured out. Not only do they not have the balls, but honestly, LSU doesn't have the balls. At a certain point, this. They're going to balk. Yeah, they'll balk, we'll balk, whatever, and it'll be business as usual. It's too much money on the table. What is this? This is San Diego County Supervisor Joel Anderson, your doppelganger. He's not my doppelganger. He's been out there doing it. He's been out there, man. He's number one on the Google rankings my whole life. I've never surpassed that guy. Put up this Joel Anderson on the screen. I searched Joel Anderson, and this guy popped up. Joel, what's going on with this dude, bro? Joel, how do we get you ahead of this guy? I don't know. Before him, it was a question. He was a coin collector named Joel Anderson. And then there's a Joel Anderson who did a movie, or The Lake, or something, or Wannabe. I don't know. Anyway, they always are talking about him because he did one great movie. Oh, Lake Mungo. Have you ever seen Lake Mungo, anybody? No. The Rotting Woman? Late Night with the Devil? So there's two Joel Andersons you have to supersede. Oh, no. And the guy that won the first Survivor, I think his first name was Joel Anderson. What? That white guy? No, that was Richard Hatch. Yeah, his name was Richard Hatch. I was like, what? I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Okay, but wait, no, sorry. There was a Joel Anderson who was in Survivor Micronesia. Anyway, all these Joel Andersons have ranked over me over the years. Yeah. When I did my Google search, you were the second Joel Anderson to come up. I won it that way. I want to be number two. I want to be number two in Google search. Shout out to the Backstreet Boy. I won it that way. Yeah, shout out. Is that right? Joel said he's the Backstreet Boy. All right, so you're not worried about the FCC banishing LSU. There's also been some rumors that Tulane would take their spot, if that were the case. I would love it, man. I want to see history. You know, like, America hasn't admitted a new state since 1959. You're just like, man, that's some crazy history. Can you imagine? I mean, my parents were alive when they invited, you know, they brought Hawaii and Alaska in. I would say Hawaii was kind of taken more than invited. Well, there you go. That's right. You're right. It was a colony, you know what I'm saying? And they fought. And they formalized it. That's right. And they should do the same to Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C., by the way. But neither here nor there. But, yeah, I would love to see something consequential. Like, I'd love to see them kick LSU out. That would be hilarious. Who would you want them to replace LSU with? North Carolina? You can't do it. Yeah, man. Would you rather have North Carolina or Virginia? Well, of course you want to. But, no, wait. You would not want to go to the SEC. Yeah, you don't want to go to the SEC. No, you don't want to go to the SEC. You're not going to have any fun, bro. You're not going to have fun. You're not going to have a lot of fun. Football season will not be a lot of fun. I actually wouldn't mind seeing us join, like, the new Pac-12 conference. Or going independent. I think they go independent. I think they go independent, play Notre Dame every year. Play Notre Dame every year. I wouldn't mind it. I'm not tripping. I have no conference alignment or love or anything like that. I don't give a fuck about it. I hope they all lose. Everybody go 0-19. I don't have any conference loyalty. Yeah. It's loyalty to one school, and it's also loyalty to the monster power. Big 12 Energy League. If it's one conference that I'm loyal to, it's the Monster Power Big 12 Energy League. That's the best case for the show, if they ended up in the Monster Big 12. That'd be great. Yeah, I mean, Monster's supposed to sponsor us one at a time? Who's not talking about it? They might come back around. Talking that shit. Next up, keeping it on LSU, Dabo Sweeney said, preparing for LSU and potentially playing former NFL players, he said, honestly, it's embarrassing. That's where we are. I don't blame the kids, but people are trying to take advantage of the system. It's embarrassing, but we've been there for a while. No pun intended. We're just going to stay in our lane. Yeah. I think Dabo is one coach that I actually would believe this from. I think a lot of other coaches that have been on their high horses about this, I don't think that they necessarily are as passionate about the issue as they say that they are. Just because we've seen these coaches embrace every single rule in college football that subverts the old way of doing things, if it means that they are going to be more competitive in their respective conferences with their respective schools. One of the guys who's actually maintained that he is a purist and his program might have suffered from some of the purity that he has adhered to is Dabo Sweeney. So when Dabo says this, I actually believe it. Dabo lives his raps, man. I mean, he's one of those people who's way behind the curve on the transfer portal and doing NIL because he truly, truly believes. He's like one of those people who, even though I disagree with him vehemently. He's like Ashley Safer in Eastbound and Down. He's Old South. Yeah, Old South. I did, but the thing is, I know that he is sincere in his beliefs because he's actually willing to live them out. So, you know, he can be right. And also, I just like this new tradition of coaches talking shit, man. There's a lot of coaches popping off now. Everybody getting a little mouthy. I mean, that's, you know, bring back some heat. I think everybody's just a little irritable. These days. So if you ask them a question, they're not afraid to say something. It's better than coach speak. We like to see that. Speaking of quarterbacks, not afraid to call someone out. Texas A&M quarterback, Marcel Reed. We know him well. He said, quote, we don't like Texas. I don't like Texas. It sucks that we've lost them twice, but they're coming here this year. So they're going to have to pay. I've got something for them for sure. Do you believe him, Joel? Do I believe that he really hates? Well, do you believe that he's got he's going to make them pay? No, I don't believe that. I don't either. I believe that he may really dislike UT because I mean, you know, they came back in the league and they took their corner, man. They took A&M. That was what distinguished them from UT that they were the Texas school in the SEC. And now UT is like, man, give me my shit. So they, you know, they got to go get their corner back. But for Marcel Reed, he did what everybody wanted Bryce Underwood to say. That's what everybody wanted Bryce Underwood to say about Ohio State. I don't like him. I'm going to do something to him when I see him. So that's what Marcel Reed did. I love it. That's a good point. You got to live up to it now, though. But you got to live up to it now, you know? Yeah. Texas is definitely going to have to pay. They're going to have to pay more transfers to come to the school and be NIL backs so they can continue to put their foot in A&M's ass over and over and over again. If I like this type of cash shit, I like it. But once you talk cash shit, you got to cash in. So we'll see how he plays. Yeah. And last year, Texas kind of ruined their momentum going into the playoffs. So I mean, they handled business last year. So we'll see if Marcel Reed. They were undefeated. I mean, they were undefeated going into that game. And if their seating's different, they don't have to play a Miami team early. Like it's a totally different, you know, way that the bracket breaks for them. Next up, Texas Tech's Joey McGuire. You're talking about coaches that are not afraid to give you a quote. Joey McGuire was asked about USC's home opener crowd. He said, quote, not to take any shots because I have a lot of respect for USC and Lincoln Riley, but it's really awesome to be playing in Lubbock, Texas, knowing we're going to be playing in front of 60,000. It's going to be warm. It's going to be every bit as warm as it was Saturday there. There's not going to be any excuse of why they're not going to be here for us. In quote, Joey McGuire says he wants to respectfully not say anything about Lincoln Riley and USC and then completely takes a shot. Van, what do you think about this? I love it. Um, we are talking. I do. I love it. I like I love it. The game is a little bit later than the game was for USC, but it's hot in Texas. People are used to the hat, the heat. They are playing Abilene Christian. Right. So if they got a $60,000 of 60,000, if they got 60,000 person sellout for Abilene Christian in the home opener in the heat, then he got to talk his shit. Yeah. I mean, I don't blame him for talking it. And it's also in Lubbock, Texas. That is the main draw. There's a lot going on in L.A. Well, that's what Lincoln Riley said. L.A. on the weekend, bro. And it's hot outside. And I got to go watch San Jose State. I might just go to the beach. I go to a restaurant, whatever. In Lubbock, I mean, you know, that is the event in town for the week. For the weekend, people build up to that. And that's great. I'm glad that there's, you know, that they're enthusiastic about football. But it's just like we're dealing with some different shit here, bro. You know, I'm saying. But again, tech is doing, they got to draw attention to themselves, man. They're in the middle of nowhere. Like there's a school that's not close to very much. I think it's the most remote school in FBS. So they got to do shit to get people talking about them and looking towards them. It's working for them. Yeah. And I mean, Brendan Sorsby was the wrong kind of attention. So this is better than that. So that's a nice call by Joe McGuire. Last one. Shout out to Tennessee. They're going to honor the late Dolly Parton with a helmet sticker on the back of its helmets. This is from Josh Heupel himself says they're going to pay homage throughout the season for Dolly Parton. Top five headlines of the week. Any thoughts on Texas or sorry, Tennessee doing that for Dolly Parton? It's amazing. Thumbs up award. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thumbs up award for them. It's amazing. Dolly Parton is Dolly Parton is a Tennessee legend. There are a lot of Tennessee legends, but she is way, way at the top of people who are meaningful from Tennessee. And it's good to see that, man. A life well lived and being well remembered. Yeah. Shout out to Dolly. Just like you said, absolute legend. All right. Any parting shots? Again, we will be live on Saturday. We're going to go live in the fourth quarter of the Death Valley showdown between the Tigers LSU and Clemson van. Anything any party shots? Just before we leave, I went on TripAdvisor. These are the top attractions in Lubbock, Texas. Okay. So you have the National Ranching Heritage Center. That's number one. We got it. Should we go? Sounds fun. Two, you have the Buddy Holly Center. Three, the Silent Wings Museum. Four, Prairie Dog Town, which is a prairie dog conservation area. And these prairie dogs are cute. You have four, five, you have the Buddy Holly statue and West Texas Walk of Fame. Six. Is Buddy Holly from Lubbock? Yeah. He's from Lubbock. Oh, wow. Six, you have the American Wind Power Center. Seven, you have the Science Spectrum Museum. Eight, McPherson Cellars Winery. Nine, the Museum of Texas Tech. And then ten, this is on the list. The Museum of Texas Tech. Ten is the Lubbock Cemetery. That's the tenth best thing to do in Lubbock. Rest in peace, man. R.I.P. everybody. R.I.P. the legends. I've been to Lubbock, man. They had a nice little, nice little steakhouse I know I ate at that one time. Joe, you should wear the Buddy Holly glasses. That would be a good look. These new glasses are not working out for me. Maybe if Texas Tech wins the Monster Big 12, you agree to wear the Buddy Holly glasses for a whole episode. Have you looked at the reviews on Prairie Dog Town? It's something to do. However, you can see prairie dogs in just about any open dirt field. Aren't prairie dogs like squirrels? They're cute animals. By the way, all this shit. We would make you go to Google to put that in there about why you shitting on Prairie Dog Town like that. I just don't understand to me, even people that leave reviews, right? I look at the prairie dogs and I'm like, yo, they're cute. If somebody wants to go to Prairie Dog Town, why is somebody going to Prairie Dog Town and then coming back and be like, Prairie Dog Town is bullshit? Haters. To Joe's point, I really don't understand why people do that. If you go to a restaurant, the restaurant fuck your food up and shit like that, but I've seen people leave fucking reviews negatively on chains that they visited in other cities. It's like, it's the LA In-N-Out, and I went to In-N-Out in Texas and the shit was whack. I'm like, you just wanted to say something negative, y'all. Look at the effort it takes to go and leave a review. People ask you to leave reviews all the time when you buy things. Actually, you guys please like, subscribe, and leave a review for our podcast and YouTube channel, by the way. But people, you ask people to do that all the time and they never do it, but this person was like, I really gotta let you know. Not too interested in the food, but I'm sure they get into it. We thought it would be a little more interactive, and maybe the sod poodles would come a little closer for feeding, but not the case. Not the case. Visit on a weekday, wait time. No wait. Reservation recommended? No. There are better reviews for Prairie Dog Town. But that kind of piqued my interest, but that other shit, man, I don't know. Maybe the Texas Tech Museum might have some good shit you know yeah I think we should salute Lubbock, Texas, based on that top 10. I'm from Baton Rouge. I'm from Henderson, North Carolina. I don't know what our top 10 is. So for me, it's shit to do in Baton Rouge. We got Blue Bayou Waterpark. We got MSU. We got Southern. We got Tony Seafood. We got restaurants. We got Catfish Town. They still got Jubin's. We got Jubin's. You know the vibes. We got shit to do in Baton Rouge. But you know, everything that you do in Baton Rouge might come with a pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. You gotta watch out. So I've been to Baton Rouge. I have two stories about Baton Rouge. One with my wife and one with a white woman. Which one do you want to hear? Obviously the white woman. Well, so this is the first white woman I ever dated. Is this Beaver Town? Yeah. She's my favorite story. We should just make that a series. So anyway. I just never dated a white woman, man. I never. It was like being in a problem with a white woman before. So it was just a very jarring experience. You know? And so I remember one weekend we wanted to go do something. And, you know, we were in Dallas. She wanted to go to New Orleans. But I was like, man, there's too many black people. Yeah, you go to Baton Rouge. So I was like, let's go to Baton Rouge. You can get some looks. So we went to Baton Rouge for the weekend, man. That's why I had Jubin's. But yeah, it was. I don't know what else we did. Which leads into the story about my wife. She came to Baton Rouge for our family reunion. And I'm taking her around. Like driving around. I drove her on campus. Drove her downtown. Went over the bridge. We did this for about two hours. And then we go to Sonic. And we're in the parking lot eating. And she's like, so when are we going to see the nice parts of town? I was like, well, shit, man. That was it. I showed you all the nice parts I know. Oh, Baton Rouge? Yeah, Baton Rouge. No, you didn't show her nothing nice at all. See, OK. I figured I probably was doing it wrong. But I thought LSU was nice. LSU is very nice. Also, tell her where she from. Actually. Just real quick. Hold on. Hold on. Like where's she from? Mill Valley, California. Where's it called? One of the most beautiful places. Look at the top 10 of Mill Valley, California. She want to talk shit? City in Baton Rouge. City in California. Let's look up Mill Valley. Although Tupac Winter is an alum of her high school. It's in Marin Valley. Oh, so it's basically San Francisco. Like Marin County. OK, so it is beautiful. Let's go look at the demographics here of Mill Valley. Let's go look. Oh, yeah. There's a story behind that. Yeah, so the place where she's from, your wife talking shit about Baton Rouge, is 81% white. You know, the place where she is one is such a nice place is 1% black. It's 1% black. That that's the type of shit that you're talking about. So y'all going down there and you hating on the city. That's 55% black. My wife. You did. She hates it because she comes. She's like, why can't we go to a place where there's more white people? Shout out to Deerfield. You told her I didn't show her the nice parts. You did. You did. There's all kinds of things you could have showed her. You didn't show her to her. And she wanted to go back to Mill Valley. Mill Valley, White Valley, Hill Valley, White Valley, White. Beautiful. I love these parting shots at Mill Valley on the way out. Again, Joel. It's 137 black people in this town. I know, dog. Even like Orange County is looking like that. Like, God damn, that's fucked up. 137. I'm going to go unionize them. I'm going to get them together so they can stand up for their rights. Right. Yeah, there you go. It's dry. When you see a black person in Mill Valley, it's like, man, how did you get here? What's the reason you're over here, bro? Yeah, man. It's a beautiful town, though, man. Just the fog is coming in. You can see the mountains. Oh, my God. It's rich as shit in Mill Valley, bro. Yeah, man. Mill Valley is one of the wildest. Mill Valley, they're going crazy. I think they call it Million Valley. Million Valley. They're all millionaires. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's just. That's what they're saying. I always tell my wife, I'm just like, man, how is it that I married a woman with a white mom, the poorest white mom in town? I was like, because I mean. Nah, I don't want to hear that shit. Nah, Joe. I'm like, I don't have it. They were. They came from the hardscrabble streets of a place where the average home price is $1.5 million. I don't want to hear that shit. Nah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They got money and they hate it on Baton Rouge. Oh, nigga, what happened then, dawg? What project did you grow up in in Baton Rouge? She probably, she probably, she was probably looking around like. What project in Baton Rouge did you grow up in? Froggy Moe projects, nigga. Like, what the fuck? Like, Froggy Moe projects, nigga. Okay, all right. Don't get me started, bro. Like, she probably looked around like, ew, ew, look at these knickknacks. All right. Well, there you have it. Beautiful parting shots. This has been Ringer Tailgate. We got to shout out Cam Newton. Thanks, Cam, for coming on the show. We appreciate you. Appreciate you. Welcome back any time. Shout out to Cam Newton. Maybe the best friend of the program. From a black city. Once you get to the awards at the end of the year. Yeah. I love Atlanta. One of my favorite cities. That's why I lived there. That's why I moved there. And I moved to a black area, the DMV. All right, Joel. Billy and Joel will be out in LA on Friday. We will be live on Saturday. The first Saturday, we will be live. So, again, fourth quarter, Tigers versus Tigers. We will be live. Ringer Tailgate, YouTube. Also on Twitch. Come hang out with us. We're very excited for the season to start and excited to get our Saturdays going. So, come hang out with us. We're going to have a lot of fun in LA in person. Raise the roof one more time. Yeah. Ringer Tailgate. Billy's coming, too. I said Billy's going to be here. I said you're going to be here. Billy's going to be here. We're going to have a fun time. 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Joel Anderson’s on-air behavior, including his "fine bombing" response to a personal attack video, sparks debate over accountability and sportsmanship.
  2. The team acknowledges Joel’s habit of reacting emotionally but criticizes the lack of direct rebuttal, calling it inconsistent with the show’s tone.
  3. Cam Newton joins the episode to discuss Auburn football, quarterbacking philosophy, legacy, and the cultural treatment of Black quarterbacks, emphasizing team success over individual accolades.

Summary:

Joel Anderson’s recent on-air reactions to a digital video mocking him—where he was portrayed as a target in a prank—trigger a heated discussion about accountability and sportsmanship. The hosts question whether Joel should have responded more directly, highlighting a pattern of emotional outbursts followed by minimal consequences. They argue that while the situation was meant as light-hearted ribbing, its public amplification crossed into harassment, especially since the video was created to mock him while he was occupied with other media commitments.

Cam Newton joins as a guest to offer insights into his college football career, particularly the 2010 season, where he won a national championship and faced personal and family challenges. He emphasizes the importance of personal and team achievements, asserting that legacy is built through resilience and dedication, not just statistics. Newton also reflects on the treatment of Black quarterbacks in college football, noting a shift in public admiration over time and questioning how schools respond to offensive remarks.

He underscores the importance of athletes protecting their legacy and the need for institutions to respect player identity, closing with a defense of his own career—driven by personal ambition and a desire to prove himself beyond financial incentives. The discussion ends with a focus on unity, tradition, and the enduring value of integrity in sports culture.

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Joel Anderson adopted the nickname 'Noseballs' as a playful and memorable moniker, which became a point of discussion and even prompted a response from the show's team about accountability and tone.

Yes, Joel responded by quoting a video and stating he would invite the host to a public 'field day' where he would challenge him to a physical confrontation, showing his willingness to face the criticism publicly.

Joel criticized Charlie Rose, calling him a 'sex pest' and stating he had 'no respect' for his journalism, reflecting a personal and political stance on media reputation.

The 'grind tape' refers to a shared, humorous video or clip where the hosts review or mock specific moments, such as a controversial moment involving Joel, to entertain and engage the audience in a lighthearted way.

Cam Newton emphasized that team achievements, like winning a national championship, matter more than personal accolades because success depends on collective effort and individual contributions.

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