Caleb Beats Drake, a Mega-Mailbag, Eagles Drama, NBA Surprises, and NFL Week 7 With Tom Pelissero and Joe House

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You know, if this game had been a couple weeks ago and you'd been watching, like, Tyson Bajan against Drake May, maybe not quite as compelling. I think that Ben Johnson, any time, like, the big games, the national TV games especially, because he's very aware environmentally of what's going on. And Ben's, like, he's on the very short list of coaches. But even when he or his team does something stupid, like the handoff to Joe Tooney that gets flagged as being illegal, you're still like, that was the coolest illegal play I've ever seen. Knowing Ben, he knows the rules. Like, something got messed up on that play. But I was like, I've never seen anybody attempt that. Before, so even with the flag, still impressive. Well, the biggest attempt he made was this 58-yard field goal, 27-21. Caleb takes the Matt Ryan Memorial Falcons-Pats Super Bowl. We have the game won, and that just knocked us out of a field goal position. Good play by the Pats defense, but becomes a 58-yard field goal in Chicago. It's 11 at night. There's no win, but it's still 11 at night. Santos, his career was 56. And I thought they were trying to draw the Pats off sides. They snap it. And I'm like, oh, this is a fucking miracle. They're kicking this. And then he nailed it. And the game ended. It was basically over at that point. But could you believe that they actually kicked that? I thought that entire ending sequence was really weird. From Frable clearly taking the intentional offsides rather than trying to get the stop on third down. No idea. To work the clock. And then, yeah, you get into that third down. I don't mind throwing there. But that play, here's the thing with Caleb. You never know. Is Ben designing it for it to be a longer drop back and wait for things to develop? Or is it Caleb going, I'm going to go Superman here? Well, he gets caught and running around in the backfield. And all of a sudden, he goes down. Barmore tackles him and somehow hurts himself on the play. And you're just going like, there's so many different things that could have happened. And that was like, outside of a fumble, the worst potential outcome. And it didn't matter. Good for Carlos Santos coming back and hitting a field goal after he'd knocked the previous one off the upright. And it hit the over as well. That was the other. There was a lot of excitement in gambling universe for some reason, a 58-yard field goal out of nowhere. Because it seemed like they were going to run out the clock. All right, big storylines here. Number one, super fun QB. I'm licking my wounds as a Pats fan, but super fun QB battle. I mean, these are two of the best. Young QBs and probably two of the best QBs we have, period. But they went back and forth. I guess Drake made the one huge mistake when he throws the pick in the end zone. I got to be honest, man. I thought he got his bell rung on the QB sneak touchdown, the play before, when he ran in, ran into the one. And he took a hard helmet-to-helmet hit. And they replayed it. And the announcers didn't even really mention it. But I didn't think he was right after that for a little while. I don't know what happened. But he really got nailed. And I just thought that pass was weird. He's trying to throw the tight end, but he's throwing a straight, hard pass that's just, you turn around, you pick it off. There was no loft to it. It was unusual. But this is the Drake-May issue. He makes the one killer mistake. In this case, that probably costs him the game. I thought maybe there was a crossing route there that he could have gone to. But also, he can hit the tight end there. It is open. He's got a step on him. But for some reason, there's no air under the ball. He just throws a line drive. If you just kind of drop it in the bucket, you've got a chance on that play. But I thought overall, Drake played really well in the game. That was his big mistake. That Bears defense is bafflingly good. They are top 10 in a lot of key categories. And then you look at who they're playing with, and you're like, how are they doing it? Because last year, statistically, they weren't good other than they just turned the ball over so much that they were able, basically, to get away with not being all that good. This year, they're at top 10. Top 10 EPA defense. Top 10 yards allowed defense. It's pretty impressive. Dennis Allen. Our guy. The thing is, you watch these Flores Disciple rip-off defenses, and you wonder why everybody doesn't do it. Because you picture, especially when they have the All-22 behind the QB camera, and there's eight guys on the line, and you don't know which eight guys are going. It's like, hey, the tight end, can you come over and just stand here? Because there might be a blitz up the middle. And then two guys. Two guys jump back. Four jump forward. These two drop back. I don't know how you figure out what's happening play-to-play. And if you don't have a good defense, this seems like the strategy to use, right? It's almost like a gimmick. But it works. Unless you don't have your shit together, and then you give up a huge play. Right, then you fuck up. They blitz on the last play of the first half, and somehow there's the two guys at the goal line. Your whole job, you're just watching them come. You know, you're 50 yards. You're 50 yards away, and just watching them come. They didn't even come close. Ramondre Stevenson walks in completely untouched. It seemed like they were afraid of the lateral, right? Because there was two cornerbacks. There was one cornerback that could have run over and tried to tackle him. And then he veered the other way, because I think he thought Stevenson was going to throw it across the field. And Stevenson's like, all right, I'll just keep running. And runs it in. But before that, you had, it was third and 17. And the Pats are about to get a start. They stop and get out of there, you know, reasonably close. And they give up a bubble screen for an easy touchdown, right? And at that point, it's like Drake interception in the end zone, disaster. Third and 17, bubble screen, easy touchdown, disaster. And then the Ramondre touchdown, like, flipped all of it back. So we were somehow dead even. Forgotten in this game, because I'm unconvinced he was even on the field in the second half. How about Luther Burden looking like Barry fucking Sanders in 1993? In the first, just like juking guys left. He looked like the best player on the field. Right. He's had a couple of good games, and then nothing in the second half, because, you know, Ben's nothing if not an equal opportunity distributor of the football. Well, we had Colston Loveland, who's alive again. If you had him in fantasy, really tough month. And now, big drive with him. They go up 13. The Pats come back. AJ's involved all of a sudden. Still seems like he's kind of running on glass sneakers or something. I don't feel like he's. I don't feel like he's, like, the full on this crazy athlete AJ yet. It still feels like he's feeling it out, but he makes play. And then Raritan, my favorite guy in the Pats, they finally get him deep on a touchdown, which has been sitting there the whole season. The Pats crushed the draft, just in general. Yakis, Raritan, Lomu. Like, they really nailed some of these. So Drake was 5 for 5 on that. It's 27-21. They get a stop. Now they have the ball back. And this makeshift offensive line, which I think is the. That's the real reason they lost this game. A couple of killer penalties. They have to give the ball back to the Bears. Ellis misses that sack on Caleb right at the goal line of the Bears. They drive down. 53-yard field goal for Santos. Doink. Now the Pats have another sign of life. And they can't get it. They have to turn it again. So this game was in the Pats' hands. I thought, you know, if you're the Bears, you're like, we're really good. Like, we are in the mix in the NFC. And if you're the Pats, it's like, all right, we're four and three, we should have won that. we should have won the Seattle game. We could have won this game. You know, we really only got our ass kicked in Jacksonville, but I think both of these teams are contenders. What do you think on that? I mean, the Patriots, just like the bears have the same issue, which is they got to get through their own division. Like you've got a pretty, and in the case of the AFC East, you're trying to get through the bills. You already be once this season, if you're the bears, you're kind of fighting it off from all three angles against the other teams that you're going up against. I would just say this. Remember the bears didn't have, Caleb Williams for three games there. They just played two games in five days and they scored 30 plus in each one of those games. Like that's for a guy coming off a hamstring injury to like come back four days later and play the way Caleb did. Like that was the biggest sigh of relief. I used to have to get through these two games. If you're the bears and now, you know, in the three full games that Caleb has played, he has looked like a legit top 10 quarterback all day in the NFL. And they've got enough playmakers around them. They lost Cole Comet. We'll see how bad that knee is. It didn't look good on the field based on people's reactions. It's not a good sign. The cart and the players praying. I, you never want to look up and see a teammate praying for you. Um, but they've got the way at the ringer too. We, anytime anyone in the ringer's prank Monday at Seattle is the next bears game. So they have 11 days for that one. But man, you look at the NFC North, your favorite division, Minnesota five and Oh, Chicago five and two Green Bay four, four and two Detroit three and two. They already have 17 wins. They're on pace for high forties for the season, which is nuts. Usually I always keep track of this cause it's good for gambling stuff. Usually it's like, especially in the 17 week season, 42 range is usually the high out of all the divisions. And this division is killing it. You have Minnesota has an easy game this week, right? They're playing the Colts and Green Bay and Detroit play each other. So they could have 19, 19 wins after, uh, as we get through seven weeks. But I, to me, Chicago is a legit contender cause they can move the ball and they're well coached. And you know, Caleb, Caleb is going to be what decides how far they go. That throw he made from his basically his own end zone to, to burden. I mean, I'm sorry to, was it burden or Dunzey where it was third and 11 and he just zipped it. Yeah. Dunzey. And he just fucking zipped it. And there was pressure and he had to get it over. Guys. And he had to get it in the perfect spot. He had two defensive backs on him and it was the best play of the game, but that's what he can do. That's why it's Caleb Williams. And him and Ben have this thing where, you know, that Ben could scheme this up for basically anybody. We saw him do it with case Keenum. Like he can scheme up a way to beat you with a guy who's got no arm talent and hasn't played in five years. And then he's got this other guy who's super talented in Caleb. Like there are times you can tell he's doing things that are not on schedule. They're not with him. They're not within the structure of the play, which there's, I guarantee there's times where Ben is just like, Oh my God, dude, just throw it where the ball is supposed to go on this play. Yeah. Caleb can do those freaky things. He can elevate it. And so you got this push pull of a really good quarterback, a really good play caller. And again, in the three games they've been together, they've looked awesome. Lions have the number one offense in the NFL. The Vikings have the number one defense. The Packers are four and two without their best offensive or defensive player. They get to take them. This week still don't have Micah and the bears look really good when they're actually something resembling full strength. I talked about this with Sal on Sunday. You, this could be a four playoff team division and it would depend on whether Seattle can get there or not, which I think they will. I think there's ultimately three from this division. I think Seattle would be the other one. And I talked about this with house later. I don't think the Rams are going to make it right. And even right now in Fando, they're basically even odds. It's either way to make it, not make it. But I, I just think, I think they had the stink on them and that too many things have happened. And by the time they get their shit together, I think it's gonna be too late. But in this division, Minnesota, Chicago, Green Bay, Detroit, if you had to bump one of these four teams, if I tell you three teams are going to make it, who you bump in, who would you say? I see the biggest concern right now is just that lion's defense. Um, you know, the good news is brand Brian branch should be back this week. That's probably the most important guy in the entire defense, not the best player, but the most important guy on that defense. Kirby Joseph will be back at some point. Brad Holmes may or may not be able to switch trade and get a corner. Like offensively, they're so good and they got so many weapons. It's just the defense can't stop anybody. They cannot get a stop when they need one. So if I had to say, I'd probably say them, but also like they're capable of just scoring 52 and just the defense not mattering. That's what makes it difficult. But I would say right now, just based on what we've seen, it's probably Detroit. Well, we're going to have our answer on Sunday because they're playing each other. We also have another answer. The Netflix audience had the poll, which QB would you rather have? Caleb Williams, 85% Drake may 15%. That's just hurtful. A little route. Come on. That was a little recent bias. That's stupid. Um, one thing I'll say this about the Pats. I think they really did nail that draft. And they got multiple guys, which has been, if you're a Pats fan, you know, there's been, there's been some dark years with the draft. There's certain drafts that happened this decade where nobody's left from the draft. Yeah. So I look at big picture, their edge rushers, which was going to be the big question heading into the season with this team, you know, between Jones and Yaka's and, um, ponder there's, they're getting pressure on the sides. They have pressure in the middle. They have good defensive backs, especially when Carl, and they, Davis is healthy again. And I actually think their defense has a chance to be pretty good. And the season is a hundred weeks long, you know, so there's going to be these ebbs and flows. And then AJ, I think, so I, I don't mind the Pats are four and four and three. I don't mind where they're at. It's right around where you would have guessed. You would have guessed five or two or four and three, right? At this point after seven weeks. Yeah, I think that's fair. And you're right. So they're fine. They played the age. They had AJ Brown for, what was it? Two quarters in a series in the opener. Before he gets hurt. And you're right. Like in terms of just how he's moving, he's not heavy. He's not overweight, but it just looks like everything he's doing is kind of heavy. He's not as fleet of foot right now. And I think that's just, he's come back from a high ankle sprain. You know, it takes some time to kind of get like the full condition and everything back yet. I don't know what it was on Sunday when he just couldn't catch the ball tonight. It just seemed like it was kind of, it was kind of a battle for me. He still had a couple of catches. He'll get himself going. I don't feel like he has his legs watching him run. It feels like, when you're like at the beach or something and you have to run on the parking lot and it's the cement's hot and you're like, ow, and you're doing like those quick runs. That's how it seems like he's running. I always felt like he, he just, I thought in the Eagles, if you go back and look at the way he ran on the Eagles, I just feel like he was felt a little more athletic. So I'm sure he looked good in the opener though. I, before the injury, I thought he was moving well in the opener. They get a product of, yeah, you miss a month. He's probably still hurt. That's probably why he's running like that. He wanted to get back. Yeah. All right. We, we usually do the six pack with you and we decided to change that because I also do the six pack for another segment in here. And we try to rip yourself off. I did. Well, I wanted to give you your own thing too. Yeah. And we, I asked you for a name. I gotta be honest. I don't know what, what kind of coffee you had today, but within two minutes, you mailed me back the answer, which we called the pick six. So it's still six things. Pick six. And we got the ringer gave us a fancy graphic of six quarterbacks famous for throwing pick sixes for the pick six. So I'm, I think we're off to a great start. I'm really excited. I thought when you said that, I thought when you sent me the graphic, it was just going to be six Andy Dalton's, but he's only in there once. He's a, it's, I think they might've stuck Nathan Peterman in there. Flacco's in there. Ryan Fitzpatrick. Um, Jameis is in there. Obviously he has, you can't have a pick six graphic without him. All right. So you've talked about Jalen hurts on ringer NFL show all week. I'm sure you're gonna talk about it on the sweep. Um, fiasco mega fiasco. What, what word are we using here? This is a situation unlike anything we've seen in recent NFL history. So what the hell happened? I would start with this because everyone's got an opinion. Every fan, every columnist, every Twitter doctor, whether they're an actual doctor or not. And the only people who are on the same page are Jalen hurts and the Eagles. They're fine. They put out a joint statement together. Um, there's a lot of weird things about how, um, everything rolled out, just kind of like the slow trickle of information, some kind of conflicting or reversed reports that came out last weekend. Um, you know, and frankly, there were some things that weren't, uh, communicated in an ideal fashion, um, which led to myself included, um, some things getting out there that were slightly misinterpreted and misexplained. So, you know, the shortest version I'd give you is he got spiked in the Rams game. Uh, he, you know, was feeling something there, but it wasn't a major concern. He's on the injury report two Fridays ago because of, you know, what they list as a calf injury. So then they fly on Friday to London. And what do you do? like when you fly I overseas that everybody tells you, like, don't, don't go to sleep, right? You gotta, you gotta beat the jet lag. And so the doctors and everybody was telling the players, Hey, don't go to sleep. So they stay up Jalen and all his teammates stay up all day. So it wasn't just a Jalen thing. It wasn't a precaution with the blood clot. It was the whole team was staying up all day. So now the players are going to bed at nine or 10 PM at night. That's right. When Jalen realizes, Hey, I've got more of an issue here. So now they go to the hospital, Cleveland clinic in London. They always, the NFL, anytime they go internationally, they've got, you know, a level one trauma center and they've got specialists. If any of this stuff comes up, they've got people they can go to. So they go, they run an ultrasound, they run tests and it's all right. It's a superficial blood clot, which from everyone I've talked to doctors and everyone else, based on what the Eagles say, it was the information they had. Everybody I've talked to has said we would have cleared him. He would have been good to play. So now though, it's two, three in the morning when he's getting back to the hotel, he finally gets a chance to go to sleep after being up for a very, very long time. They get him a room at the stadium. So then when he gets to the stadium off the bus, like he takes a little nap there for like another hour and there are all those videos that came out of him coming out, like right before kickoff, basically it was all part of this very weird sequence of events. He plays well. If you watch the game, are they not running a lot? Like you wouldn't know he had an issue. He throws for a couple hundred yards. And they were told based upon, you know, what that specialist had seen, all right, don't do the follow-up ultrasound for 72 hours because any changes aren't really going to show up. Like it may not manifest itself. You're not going to give them one every single day. So wait three days and do it. So he practices in full last Wednesday. They do the ultrasound that night. That's when they see the blood clot has moved. And at that point, it's all right. Now we stop. He goes and sees another specialist in Boston. He consults different medical opinions. They find several blood clots that have made their way into his lungs. And so now, so to gotten into the vein, the superficial blood clot, you think of it like a bruise, like that's kind of what it looks and feels like. But now once it gets into the vein and now parts of it break off and clogging your arteries and your lungs, that's where it becomes like a really dangerous situation. So he's on blood thinners for probably about three months, which means it's not like a crisp thing. It's not like a thing where this is like you have to retire from the sport. Because no, this issue, no. And the other, you know, key like difference, like remember Christian Barmore had the blood clots a couple of years ago. Well, in that case, they didn't know what happened. Like they didn't know why he had it. So you had to do like these batteries of tests and figure out what's going on in his body with hurts. They know this case, they know he got cleated. And so he should be totally fine after he takes the blood thinners. He should be able to play next season for everything I've been told without issue. Again, everybody put out a statement together. I get where the NFL PA is coming from. Because you don't want a guy to develop a potential life-threatening illness on the job and you do nothing. That's literally the job of a union, you know, protect working conditions. So they're looking into it. But again, for all the criticism and all the speculation, I don't think that there's some revelation on the other side. It's just, it's a really shitty thing that happened. And the good news is Jalen Hurts is going to be okay. Let's move to number two in the six pack related to the Eagles. Are they sellers now? What happens if they lose this Dallas game? Well, I mean, Howie Roseman is always open to a good deal, regardless of, you know, what that looks like. I guess what you have to ask yourself in terms of if they become sellers is of what? Like, who are you willing to trade? Are you willing to trade Saquon? What's that going to cost? You know, for Howie, he held out to get a first round pick for AJ Brown. He got a second round pick for Cam Juergens. Like Saquon Barkley is not going to be cheap. And that's one of your like core guys within the organization. I mean, what if Minnesota offers me a second form? I mean, I would sit there and say, how about a first? I would want to know how much I can possibly get for the player. I do think that people will come with offers. If the Eagles, you know, begin losing here. I think there's players on that defense that they'll potentially get calls on as well. But other than guys who are like right now are not in the rotation or aren't active on on game days. I don't get the sense that. How he's really pushing those things yet, because let's face it. Like the NFC East is terrible. It is a really bad division. The Eagles have shown they still can be really good on defense. Jalen Carter, the way he played in London was the best player on the field. Yeah, they still can be a handful on that side. So you think eight, nine takes it, especially with the ties. I don't know how it doesn't. I mean, Dallas, I wonder like if Dallas loses this game on Monday to the Eagles, what do they do? I don't know that. It's just Pickens is the first guy. That's the obvious one. It doesn't seem like it's working. Remember, the Steelers had no market for George Pickens whatsoever when they traded him in the offseason, you know, a year and a half ago or whatever that was like. Is it worth it? Is Jerry really going to go, OK, we'll trade Pickens for a fourth rather than let's keep competing and try to win a bad division. Everybody's in a weird, weird spot in the NFC East. Jerry's the only guy like like in your fantasy league, the guy who just loves trading. He just likes making moves. He just had to admit to the trade. I did something. And then gets offended when like you won't engage, like send you some shitty offer and you wake up to it 6 a.m. And then we don't respond for an hour. It's like, OK, guess you're not going to respond. Never mind. Why didn't you want to trade me Colston Loveland for Drake May? Yeah. So maybe so after this Eagles Cowboys game, maybe we'll have maybe we'll have an idea if one of those are sellers. Do you think there's a seller right now? There's not. There's not a true fire. There's not a true sale team, but I would keep my eye on the Colts. That's going to be the really interesting team. So Carly, you look at Carly's notebook. What happened? You saw that. Saw her briefly at the at the league meeting. All 22 camera like you zoomed in. She's she's paying attention. The statement that she put out when she's like, this is a deliberate decision. That meant something that was all right. Here it is, guys. I did something. Everybody in the building's on notice now. So what I anticipate is. They're going to take the next week or two and see, do they find the spark? They got two hard games. I mean, they got Minnesota this week on the road and then they're at Jacksonville. That's their next two games. So if you're two and six, then I would anticipate the Colts are going to be listening. And they got some guys that would be prime trade candidates. You know, Quentin Nelson, who's in a contract years, 30 years old, like core dude. But like, you can get a real, real draft. Yeah. For Quentin Nelson. Cam Juergens went for a second. And Quentin's still playing at a really high level. DeForest Buckner too. Now he had the, you know, the neck issues. And so I don't know how high the price would be, but you get a real, you know, pick for him. And then Jonathan Taylor is going to be the fascinated one. They just signed him to an extension back in August. That's your first round pick guy from Minnesota. And not to mention if you're the Colts and you're trying to set this up for the new GM, you don't have a first round pick in 2027. The Jets own it from the sauce Gardner trade. So how do we like get more flexibility and give more draft assets in 2027? That's where I think it'd be negligent to not make some moves. If they don't win one of these next two games, they're going to, they're going to fight. They want to see, she likes Shane Steichen. She wants to see what he can do, but it's crunch time. If they don't win these next couple, I think you'll see the Colts being active in the sell market. I would argue that Daniel Jones extension coming off an Achilles tendon injury was negligible. But what do I know? Did you understand the Chris Bauer thing as it was happening? This was almost 10 years of the 10 years of this. Some, some features, some profiles. There was that famous clip of him laughing his ass off. Cause they got lot to the pass rusher in the, in the first round. Everybody else is so stupid. Meanwhile, the next two guys in that draft turned out to be awesome. But what, how did he keep his job so long? And why was the coverage of him so favorable for so long? I mean, I like Chris a lot. And I think that everybody who dealt with them liked him because he was honest because he was, I mean, a constant fodder machine. Do you remember when they were trying to hire Josh McDaniels and he had agreed and then he no showed and Ballard Ballard stood up there. I was at that press conference. I flew into Indianapolis to cover it. And Ballard like took every single question for 45 minutes. And at the end, he just goes, the rivalry is back on. And, and that was how he went out. Like he understood, like you can give those, those sound bites. And they're like, it was a fun guy to cover. And he was aggressive. Like we all like covering people. We're like, you know what? We're going to go for it. We're going to trade for sauce Gardner. You know, we're going to trade for DeForest Buckner once upon a time. He, he had, you know, the Andrew Luck thing obviously turned everything sideways. It changed everything for the franchise franchise. If luck is playing and he's in a good mindset and he's healthy, I mean, he could still be the quarterback now. And they would have been a playoff contender every single year. They drafted pretty well overall. When you look at, you know, finding guys like Jonathan Taylor, um, you know, like they did make good draft picks. It just, it wasn't enough. And you had a constant churn at the quarterback. They somehow never won the AMC South during his entire tenure. I think he had two playoff appearances and, um, they could never replace Andrew Luck. I mean, you could argue in the last 10 years, that was probably the single most traumatic. thing that happened to a franchise. Losing Andrew Luck when they lost him. Not knowing they were going to lose him. Just, you know. Having to trade for Jacoby Brissett. Yeah. It would be like if you lost Brett Favre in like 2001 or something. I don't know what's a better QB example. But they lost him at the point of his career when he was still supposed to be ascending. He was still young. And then that leads to a Jacoby Brissett trade, which leads to a Carson Wentz trade, which leads to a Matt Ryan trade. Are you doing the Rain Man thing? An Anthony Richardson draft pick, which leads to the Daniel Jones sign, which leads to the Daniel Jones extension. There was some Minshew in there. There was Minshew in there. There was Scott Tolzien in there. I skipped over a few things. But that's a lot of activity. I mean, it was just this every single year trying to figure it out. And they just, they didn't get there. But listen, Chris is like one of the only people who, when you get fired, is just like, yeah, that was probably it. That was probably going to be the end. Like, he knew. He was in a contract year. He probably was going to be done after this anyway. Yeah, and he's getting, they're chanting for him. Like, he's not the one who's going to, like, fight or be all, you know, pissed off. Like, I think he's down about it. But also, it's a pretty good run, man. You know, he kept swinging, kept taking shots. It just didn't work out. You know, when you miss with a top 8 to 10 pick with a quarterback, really hard to keep your job after that. Really, the only one that was able to do it was San Francisco Trey Lance because they. They miraculously ended up with Purdy, and it didn't matter. But same thing, right? You take a swing, and you miss. You can't come back from that, you know? And meanwhile, it's 50-50 for a quarterback at any part of the first round. It's not like there's an exact science to this. You look at McCarthy, Anthony Richardson, like, you know, you just don't know. Yeah, you also have to go back to that draft, and they had the number 4 pick. Everybody was looking to them, including ownership of, like, you got to solidify the quarterback position. And really, the only. The only options that they had were Anthony Richardson or Will Levis. Like, that's who was staring back at them. And it's just like, okay, do we take the guy who's, like, tightly wound in the big arm, we've seen him, or like this totally raw 6'6", 250-pound dude who started 13 college games? They took a swing. Richardson, he made some plays. Like, you remember his early starts? Like, he would make some ridiculous runs and throws. He just got hurt every time he did it. He's still there, too. The guys who, you know, maybe somebody wants to take a swing. All right, we're halfway through the pick 6. I like this pick 6 gimmick. Let's go with the Paris game for the fourth one. So, Paris just riots all week. Not going much better here in America because it feels like we're being cyber-attacked left and right. I don't know if you've been following that. It's pretty terrifying. I'm checking my bank accounts a lot, just making sure. But it's like, hey, your money might be gone. That's always scary. But Paris, it's continuing to go on. Was there ever a moment when they were like, ah, maybe we don't have the game in Paris? It has been edgy enough that I know, like, the NFL and the NFLPA have had multiple calls a day. The NFL has been in contact with the U.S. government and the French authorities. But really, we kind of, like, the show left town when the Saints traveled there right after their game on Sunday. Like, they've been there all week. So, they can't do London? They can't move it? It has to be, or they would have to postpone it? What would happen? It's Thursday night at this point. I mean, they always have contingencies for everything. But as far as I've been told, like, they've not really activated those contingencies. The Steelers flew in earlier today. The actual, like, epicenter of this is not right by the stadium. The Steelers' hotel apparently is, like, a half mile away from where a lot of this stuff is happening. So, they are kind of close. The real concern, and this will be one of those things to, like, monitor. Again, the league's confident it's going to be fine. But I know the players have some nerves about it. The teams have some nerves about it. There's a large-scale protest planned on Saturday. And the Parisian authorities just apologized a week ago for their lack of response to the last large-scale protest. Now, what happens if Saturday gets, like, totally out of control and the police are having to respond? Like, you're relying on local authorities for police escort security at the stadium. Like, what if they're like, hey, we got to put out a fire at the Eiffel Tower? We got to put out a fire at the Eiffel Tower here. Like, we kind of need all hands on deck. Those are the things, again, the NFL is always in communication. But those are some of the things when I've talked to people that have come up. And it's, you know, it's worth monitoring just because this is such an unusual situation. Maybe send Aaron Rodgers out there? Kind of calm things down? He'd have some thoughts. I'm Aaron Rodgers. I've calmed my family situation down. Now I'd like to take on Paris. So, the protests are about, like, the conditions of schools. And, like, low wages and, you know, lack of future for young people. Right. But, like, I always play in the game in my head. What side of this issue would Aaron take? And whatever I guess, I'm probably wrong. Sounds like a good game show. What side of this issue would Aaron Rodgers take? I love it. Here are three contestants. Here's Bob from Kansas City. Play the video, like, Jeopardy video answers after. Yeah. Should presidents have a third term? Bob, you're first. I have no idea. I have no idea where Aaron would come down. Zero clue. Two more. I guess we can. Do we care about J.J. McCarthy? They're starting him, but he could get killed in this game and stink. We can skip that one. Arch Manning. Seems like it's been a busty 2026 Texas campaign. And, in general, we've been hearing about how great this QB class is. This is the league who geared up for this. This awesome QB class is starting to panic that this might not be an awesome QB class. I wouldn't say panic because, like, I was tasked with one college scouting director today. And I was just like, all right, like, how would you rank Arch now, knowing what you know? You know, there's a report that the backup's getting more first-team reps this week, which suggests maybe Arch is going to lose game reps, maybe even get benched. And what that scouting director, who's been around a long time, and I trust him, he's got a really good eye for you, he just goes, I still rank him number one because it's not going to be a good game. Six games, and, like, so much is happening in college football that, like, it's hard to sit there and lock in any one thing. Like, oh, this completely changed everything. Having said that, the QB class as a whole, and specifically Arch, like, yeah, there are a lot of people who are watching this right now, and not only saying, man, this QB class might not be as good, this QB class might not exist. There's only a couple of them that are out of eligibility. Like, Trinidad Chambliss has to come out because he's out of eligibility. But, like, Arch could transfer. I texted one person who's known Arch a long time earlier tonight, and I said, where do you see Arch in 2027? And his response was Ole Miss. That's, no one would have thought that we'd be talking about, is Arch not going to finish at Texas? That would have been 101 odds. Long way to go. A lot of things can happen. He's being advised by his family. You know, who knows where we end up. But, like, the best quarterback right now playing is probably Mestemaker, but he's got, I think, two years of eligibility left. If I'm getting paid $10 million to stay in college versus, like, maybe I'm not a first-round pick, I'm probably staying in college longer. A lot of these guys could end up just transferring again. Dante Moore is another one who's been so good, he hasn't played since the concussion. It's just, yeah. There's all these different factors going on. And so, those NFL teams, whether it's the Jets sitting on three first-round picks, the Browns with two first-round picks, some of the other teams, like the Dolphins and Cardinals, who could be in that mix next year, nobody can feel super confident about where this is going to land just because some of those guys we thought were going to be good haven't played well, and therefore, can you take them that high? Or are they even going to be there? Are they going to be in the class of 2028 or 29? It's funny, McShay came. I got to have him on again. McShay came on, I think, July or August, and we talked about how great this QB class is, but then also how every year what you think is going to be the ranking and everything, July, August, and then you get to December, and it's like, oh, Fernando Mendoza is now number one. And you just don't know. These are 20, 21, 22, 23-year-old kids, and the wild swings. But this feels even wilder than I think anyone could have anticipated. Oh, and by the way, Brendan Sorsby not playing college football. Training on his own. He could be QB1. Like, that's where we are. That would be incredible. Last one, Seahawks Chiefs Sunday night. House and I are going to talk about it later in Ringer 107. The Kenneth Walker revenge game. Why didn't they keep him? Do we ever have a good. Obviously, a bunch of people are going to be talking about this game and him all week. They'll show him. It'll be a big storyline on Sunday. It wasn't like he got a crazy amount of money from Kansas City. And then you think about it. You think about when Philly won with Saquon and then they took care of him. They just. You know, running backs, that's usually between $12 million, $15 million a year, something like that. In Seattle, they spend a first-round pick to try to replace him, Jadarian Price. They have Charbonnet coming back. They just feel like they can patch it together. You know, this has been the biggest issue with their team. Are there regrets on the Seattle side? Not regrets. You know, there's probably a comparison to be made, albeit at different stages and different levels of success. But. When the Giants let Saquon go, and he goes to the Eagles and runs for 2000 yards and wins the Superbowl in the first year, like everything. And of course the Giants thoughts on that were well-documented in hard knocks. Like they had all these reasons of just like, it's the injury history. It is the age, you know, here's all the reasons that we just can't justify paying him all that money with Seattle and Kenneth Walker. It was some of those same factors. Like they'd seen him be beat up for several years. Even last season, he wasn't playing great until they made a running back coach change. And then all of a sudden in December, he became the best player on their team. And he, you know, helps for the Superbowl run. So you're saying it's like when you buy a car from somebody who's like, Oh yeah, I hit that pothole that time. I got rear-ended that other time. I'm going to sell the car right now. The next person will never know all the things that happen on this car. But they might love it. They might love it for the first year. What's Saquon been since 2024? He's gone back to missing a lot of time. And, you know, being banged up and not being as productive. So, I mean, Kenneth Walker, he's on base to break the single season record for yards from scrimmage. Like this is a kind of like, boy, this is the worst case scenario. And so the Seahawks are hearing all about that. That's going to end this week. That pace will be ended when they're in Seattle this week. Going against one of the best defenses. And you know, they're not going to let that guy beat you. What I tell you is they would have taken him back at a certain price. Like there was a certain price point, but it would have been, I don't believe anywhere near what the chiefs paid. It was, it was still, it was the biggest running back contract ever in free agency. It was, I think three years, 45 with upside to 48. And the thing was, there was no one else in the market. It was really just the chiefs. They were the one team that was willing to do it. They had the vision. This guy's going to totally transform our team, you know, through the first, whatever it's been for them, five games of the season. He really has because they don't have, you know, a receiver really to, to speak of an offensive line either. I mean, they've had a bunch of injuries and stuff there. Their schedule has been pretty easy. I bet now, now we're going to find out how real this is. I think. Yeah. And I'll just want to see, you know, Kenneth Walker last year is the first time he played a full season. Can you do it again? If he can, I mean, good for him. It'll be the greatest investment of all time, you know, but for Seattle, they just weren't willing to put that type of money. They should get Charbonnet back this week. They activated them today. I think he's going to play price should be back next week. Yeah. I could see them being in the running back market too. But if those two guys, I think they're fine. Get back. Yeah. We talk about it later. They're three and three and that they easily could be five and one or six. Now I think they're okay. I'll leave you with this. You talk to a bunch of people around the league. Who do you think is the alpha right now in the league that everybody else is looking at as the team they have to measure themselves against? Does that team exist yet? I don't think so. I don't think it does either. Cause you would say San Francisco, but they've had so many, I would look at San Francisco and be like, we can beat those guys. They're so beaten up. That, that would be the team. And I had, you know, somebody with the Rams say after they played in the first game that that's probably the best team we're going to see. I mean, when, when Kyle's got his guys, he, with all the other injuries, but when he can play with McCaffrey and Purdy and he's got kill, he just lost Debo. But as long as those guys are there, you know, they've got a chance to be pretty good. By the way, they're playing without Bosa right now on defense. Like they're, they've lost all those defensive linemen. Pretty remarkable how they do that every single year. I would have said the bills, you know, over the first couple of weeks of the season, but then they turned over five times against the chargers. The Patriots beat them. Their defense. If you look at, you know, the efficiency numbers, they're like dead last in the league. So there's a lot that they have to clean up on that. That side of the ball. No, I don't, I don't think that you have a single team. We usually have a team by now. Cause you can poke holes, right? Minnesota hasn't done it offensively, even though the last game they played was the best. The chiefs are undefeated, but I think there's all sorts of reasons. They're like, how sustainable is it? I think they're a good team. I don't know if they're a great team right now. If you had to name one, it probably is San Francisco, but you just, every week you watch them and there's like three more names on the injury report. And it's just like, we got a lot of season left to try to figure this out. Well, it's funny. We have three undefeated teams and yet we don't have an alpha. Somehow it reminds me of like those cold seasons, with banning when they would be like 14 and one, but they would be 30th and DBOA and defense. And you'd be like, yeah, I don't know. And that's kind of where the Niners are now where they're the track record says they're the best team, but I don't trust it. We'll see. Maybe we'll have more answers this week. All right. You can subscribe and read to the sweep, your excellent newsletter, and then see you on ringer NFL show as well. And then rumors. The show is coming to LA for the trade deadline in November. Which hopefully do we have, what's the, what are the odds that will be a great trade deadline? What are we looking at? Like 40% of 10 times? It's a good trade deadline. What are, what are the percentages here? I booked my flights today, Bill. So I'm going to go high percentage. I do think there'll be some significant things and here's why very briefly. Yeah. Some teams that were supposed to be good and thought they were going to be good and have veteran rosters are bad. That is the recipe. You need, because that means star players, older players who are the core guys that you're thinking, they're going to win a super bowl. And all of a sudden we're four games below 500. Those are exactly the guys that now you have to make the hard decisions and decide are we willing to move on from the chargers are on that list. The Eagles could certainly be on that Rams. If they're two and five could be the rank of the Cowboys that thought that they were going to be really good. And what exactly ends up happening with them? I mean, there's a, there's a lot of them, man. If you go top to bottom in the league, there's a bunch of teams right now that are looking at their roster and just looking at their, their record and just being like, Holy shit, how did this happen? I mean, the bucks are one in five. They don't play. They haven't played a division game yet. They'll probably end up getting back into it. If they can beat the Panthers, like that goes to one in six, one in seven. Like, what are you doing? You got some older players on that roster. It's just, there's a lot of one year deal. Basically. A lot of teams are going to be really, really fascinating to see how these next, whatever we got 19 days, play out. All right, Tom, thank you. Coming up. We're gonna take a break. Come back with a Joe house and the mailbag right after this. This episode is brought to you by PNC bank. In today's sports, everyone is constantly trying to outdo each other trick formations, infield shifts, constant rotation changes. And yet it's proven time and time again, that strong fundamentals are the thing that will lead you to victory and banking is no different. While everyone tries to outdo each other, PNC bank just keeps going right down the middle with steady, calculated money moves and the financial wins. They just keep coming. PNC bank brilliantly boring since 1865 brilliantly boring since 1865 is a registered mark of the PNC financial services group, incorporated PNC bank national association member FDSC. All right, Joe house is here. We are recording this before bears Patriots, but we are going to do a rollicking mailbag. We're going to talk a little MBA and we're going to do a ringer one Oh seven picks for week seven. And most important houses team is one to know the Washington wizards. You did it. Anthony Davis looked the healthiest he's looked in two years and you're back, baby. Yeah. One whole game without an injury to Anthony Davis. That's a wild success. Yes. He dominated Kyle Kuzma. It was, that was the primary defender. Great job. The first time since 2022, I believe that this is the stat that the, the wizards are above 500 at any point in any season. Did you have any first of all, congrats on that. Did you have any overreactions from the first two days of games with our over unders that you wished we had done differently? That what the thing that jumped out to me was the sun's just getting annihilated by the blazers. And we were like the blazers, who the hell knows? This is the weirdest for us so hard. The sun's fans are upset already. I think they have reason to be. Yeah. I didn't watch any of that game. Did you watch any? No, I, well, I was going to, and it was 19 to nothing. So they got all the way up to 21, nothing. They were up by three touchdowns. Like, well, I'm not going to try and work hard to watch it. I don't understand why the sons were unprepared defensively. I guess that's what I would say. Well, the biggest thing to me is that Dame looked good. Wasn't expecting that. Yeah. And, and jaw look good too. Um, the most fun game was Indiana, new Orleans. And I think new Orleans is going to be in a bunch of these, where they'll, they'll lose a bunch because they have Jamal Mosley as their coach. And you know, some, some questionable game management at the end, but they do have a lot of talent. That game was really fun. I saw the second half of that game. And then, uh, Toronto, not Toronto, Orlando and Atlanta, which was right in that vortex of what do we make of all of these teams? They all around the same over under, but that was a good battle too. So, uh, I'm not going to overreact to anything other than basketball, other than to tell everybody who sent me Jason Tatum texts and things. Um, they can go eat a fat one. I was one of them. Mailbag. These are actual questions from actual listeners. You can send them the BS podcast, 33 at gmail.com. Chris from Hewitt, New Jersey house. Hasn't seen any of this is the gym. The ants devastating injury cut to commercial. The most ironic thing ever. Now, considering he shattered his wrist hand on live TV, punching a football. I wish he would have immediately punched a football and then said, we're not going to show you what just happened. We'll be back after this with tears in his eyes. Do you think? shouldn't have done that. And they could have played the quiet injury music that they played. They should have. That would have been incredible. He's like, oh, we're not going to show you guys again. Have they said out loud, has anybody done any reporting on how injured he is? Is he going to be in a sling this upcoming week? So I haven't heard anything. I did Google it. So the question if you're Jim Nance, let's say you did break your wrist or hand. Do you tell anybody? Do you keep it a secret? Do you hide it? Do you do the game where you're in the booth and you basically take off your wrist or your carpal tunnel thing or whatever they have you. But when they show you in the booth it seems like you're fine. But meanwhile, you have five broken bones. I mean, it's devastating for him because his primary outlet in terms of leisure activity and probably, you know, his own psychological well being is golf. Like this is by far the thing I'm most concerned with in terms of any risk that I undertake. I can't have anything get in the way of me playing golf a couple times a week. Just can't have it. And if he busted up his hand and wrist and he's on the shelf for four to six weeks at a minimum, that is brutal. Well, then CBS gave him the extra FU after J.J. Watt crippled Jim Nance. They announced that J.J. Watt is going to be their number one analyst. They just plowed ahead. They took the CBS seat off the table. They were like, we don't want to be in this treatment stuff. Keep us out of it. Joshua Cohen wrote in just listen to Friday the 13th rewatch ables. My cousin got married at the camp where they shot the movie and it felt like a bad omen. Marriage lasted less than two years. Predictable. Would you get married at the Crystal Lake? You got married in Martha's Vineyard near Chappaquiddick. Not that near Chappaquiddick. Not that close to Chappaquiddick. Puncher's distance. There were funny stories about people driving around at night. There were funny stories. Things happen. Yeah, I would not get married at Crystal Lake. I would not either. The Simmons fan, because we support all our excursions, we watched all of Crystal Lake on Peacock, the Linda Cardellini prequel. From the beginning all the way through the end? On my iPad scale, I was about a 38% looking up versus doing work and not paying attention. Feels like that's pretty good. A lot of bloody people and some nudity and just kept my attention. Tommy from Lincoln, California. Sit down for this one. This one jolted me and then I kind of sat with it for a while and I was okay with it. Are we currently watching the NFL equivalent of Steph Curry's 2015 MVP season with Brock Purdy? He has a whole bunch of bullet points. Both undersized or physically limited for their positions, allegedly. Significant doubts about their ceilings. Impressive seasons before injuries derailed them. Fan bases that recognized their potential and defended them vehemently, not to mention Bay Area, consistently viewed as products of their surroundings rather than driving forces behind their team's success. And then he said, neither fits the traditional mode of what we thought a championship caliber superstar would be. Curry had 2015. He became an undeniable superstar league MVP. Will this now be Brock Purdy? My instinct was like, that's ridiculous. Steph Curry changed the way we played basketball. And started a revolution. And people were showing up with Steph Curry jerseys. But that's not what he's saying. He's not saying there's a thing that transcended the sport. He's just saying maybe he's that good and we just didn't realize it until this season. I'm not against this take. What are you doing? You're typing? What are you doing? Well, I'm in the Googleopolis machine, the look stuff up machine to see Don't get away. You're going to get cyber attack now. What year Brock Purdy and Lamar Jackson it was just two years ago that we had this. Wasn't it two years ago? On Christmas Day, these two teams played each other. San Francisco and the Niners. And it was a referendum or that week there was an island game where the Niners played Baltimore and it was supposed to be a referendum on this MVP question. So my reaction, the reason I'm looking this up is because we've already been there with Purdy. Purdy was in the MVP discussion in the race for you know, three quarters of a season, four fifths of a season. So Curry's version of this was 13 when things were really happening for them and nobody took it seriously and everybody's like, you can't win playoff rounds by shooting threes and then who'd they beat? Denver? They beat that Aguadala tie loss and that weird 56 win George Carl team then lost to the Spurs the next round. But that was kind of his moment like what Purdy had. I don't think people took Purdy seriously as a major dude until this season. I don't, I don't disagree with that. They had to, we had to have, it was, it was Christmas night, 2023 a high profile matchup that heavily shifted the NFL MVP race in Jackson's favor because of how Lamar played and people were in that situation. The dialogue was focused on the idea that Purdy where he was drafted how could a player come from that place all the way to MVP conversation. And it was, you know, he all of the undermining of his case was built on the idea that he was a system quarterback just performing well inside that system. This feels different this year, I think, but here's the challenge, right? Yeah, we'll see because Mike Evans is hurt. Mike Evans has been the secret sauce. He has been an incredible asset to this Niners offense and we watched him go out. It seems like a beloved teammate too. Everybody just fucking loves Mike Evans. Brady loves him too. He was loved in, in, loved and beloved in Tampa. But let's see how this Niners offense does without him. Purdy's looking a little Mahomes-y. I have, I think he's unquestionably one of the top four or five quarterbacks now. Okay. I've seen enough. We've, we argued about this for years. People were down on him. Advanced stats were high on him in some things. I tested, I'm done. Jesse from the Bay Area coincidentally asked if you could give him truth serum. Do you think Aaron Donald would say he regrets coming back? If he could do it all over again, would he have just waited until week 10 and joined contender TBD? Wow. So I think it's a two-part question. One, I don't think he would have played for anyone. Totally agree. Rams or bust. You and I agree with that. Two, maybe just wait till week six, especially like, didn't they know Miles Garrett's name was hurt before they actually told us he was hurt? Like he's friends with Miles Garrett. He didn't know. I would have wanted to see him on the knee for four weeks. He's got to be so bummed out now. Who Miles Garrett or Aaron Donald Aaron Donald the Rams suck. They do, but there is light. They're not going to make the playoffs house. Oh, I don't, I wouldn't go that far. We're only a third of the way into the season. I'm going to go that far. I don't think they're going to make the playoffs. Here are their next four games this week and I might bet on them on FanDuel to not make the playoffs. Their next four games are at Vegas. This week. Yeah, home against the Chargers. They're going to be coming up in Ringer 107 later. Yeah, I'm I understand your perspective. Home against the Chargers at Washington at Arizona. So if they're six and four. Arizona just kicked their ass last week. Yeah, well, I think they'll get vengeance and you know, the one of the remarkable things about that Arizona game is that historically McVay had absolutely dominated Arizona over his career. So I think they're with that extra incentive. But if they're six and four through 10 weeks, they're still in the playoff hunt. All right. So you just gave them four wins in a row and they're two and four and they just lost to Bonta Adams and miles Garrett. We have no idea when he's coming back and they have offensive line issues and they're on their third kicker and McVay has blown two games and seems like he needs help. Exactly. The time to buy. Well, you can buy because they're it's basically even odds for them to make the playoffs. They're minus 112 to make it minus 104 not to make it. I don't see it. Andrew from Texas. I didn't know about this. I just saw a video clip of Joe Mazula's newest segment on Zolak and Bertrand. This is a Boston radio show. Okay. Where he takes calls directly from Boston fans and it was hilarious. The first fan immediately informed Joe that when he was first hired, he did not care for the way he handled himself with the media. My goodness. And then launched into a tirade about late game Tatum possessions and a lack of creativity on offense. Joe handled it well, but it got me thinking, would Boston go first overall in the worst fan bases to open the phone lines with draft? I think Philly's number one. Yeah, Philly's definitely number one. In fact, I think Philly fans are furious right now that this was even a question, but I think Boston might be second. It's up there. Like who else is in that Philly-Boston class? Any cold weather place, I think. Yeah, right. Maniacal Buffalo? Although Buffalo's had a good run, they've been pretty happy. No, they're just sad. I would say it's New York City, Philly. Philly won Boston two, New York City probably three would be my rankings. And then there's probably somewhere we're forgetting somewhere where it's maybe like Portland this year. Maybe teams would move up or down depending on how pissed off they are. It reminded me of SNL used to have this great sketch in the late 80s. They did once, I think with John Goodman, the referee Pittman show and it was like a talk show with a referee. It was done like a morning show. And he came out, and they applauded, and the people would be like, yeah, Referee Pittman, I just want to know what it's like to officiate a game with your head completely up your ass. I remember this. Just how do you handle that, just having your head that far up your rectum? But I got to get my dad to call into this Joe Bezula thing, though. He's already not happy. Unbelievable. Yeah, he doesn't understand why we're playing so many lineups. My dad's like, we've played 130 lineups. It's a fair question. Amok, oh, I should have done this after the Rams thing. He writes about the Rams. Are we back to square one when it comes to the how should you approach an Australia game decision? We thought the reason the 49ers beat up the Rams was because they flew there early. But maybe it was just because the Niners are significantly better. That's a take. It did make me rethink it. After we saw the first six weeks, the Niners are better than the Rams these first six weeks, pretty convincingly. So maybe the Rams had the right strategy and just their players weren't good, though. You don't like this. No. I'm going to make that bet on the Rams to make the playoffs. I feel like you're going to lose a lot of money on the Rams. Fine. No, I'm already protected because one of our best takes across the board and over-unders was under 11.5 wins for the Rams. So I'm super covered, I feel like. Under 11.5 feels pretty decent right now. One of my big bets that I did before this season for Futures was the Rams under 13.5 wins. My goodness. With Seattle over 8.5 and New England over 8.5. And I think it was like plus 112. Yeah. Oh, that's a good one. And I'm about to win the Rams side. They just need one more loss and they win that one. But I'm not bragging because I have multiple Tampa Bay Buccaneers bets that you can just set on fire and throw into. My word. Diarrhea or hell. I'm not going to give up on Houston, but I'm going to give up on Tampa. Yeah. Kel wants to know, is it possible the NFC East champ will be in the Shakey's Bowl? I want to talk this out. Shakey's Bowl, worst game of the day. Early Saturday. It's usually the game they're most embarrassed by. The Texans were in it multiple years in a row. We called it the Shakey's Bowl because for our fantasy draft, the one I'm in with Sal and those guys, we would go to Shakey's and watch the first game. Last year was Rams-Panthers. Which was actually a pretty good game, but all the matchups were pretty good last year. But usually the NFC South's in here. So the NFC East champ, I think will be a four seed this year. I think they're going to have the worst record of all the divisions, right? If you had to say NFC South versus NFC East. Yeah, not even close. I think it's going to be close. Who's winning? Nobody's winning 10 games in either. Right. The winner of the NFC East is the first team to get to seven wins. And it might be. That was Sal's prediction. Well, I mean, I think it applies to the NFC East now. So Shakey's ball, if it's Dallas, no way. That's a night game. Right. They won't care how good Dallas is. If it's the Giants, no way. I think they put the Giants in a higher profile game. Wow. Even if they've only have seven wins or eight wins. I just think they put them even what was the year with Danny Dimes? They didn't put Danny Dimes in the Shakey bowl that year. Against Minnesota. I don't think that was Shakey's bowl. Okay. Your team, definitely a possibility. Yes. And then I think Philly would know Jalen Hurts and Tanner McKay, whoever the hell else is going to be QBing. Right. Would be the other one. Jimmy Garoppolo? I still think NFC South will be in there over the NFC East. Okay. Would be my prediction. Jimmy Garoppolo. Did you hear that name? No, but he's available. I don't know why you wouldn't take a look at him. Chris from Charleston, South Carolina. Love the show. I was making chicken salad and was adding Dijon mustard, opened a new bottle, and promptly squeezed out mustard juice over everything. And I want to talk about this in a second. This got me thinking, which NBA team will be the mustard juice of the season? Big anticipation and then disappointment and horror. As a Wizards fan, I figure we're the leading K-8. What? I wonder what you think. I don't agree with the Wizards. I think it might be Utah. I think Utah's the mustard juice team. Yeah, that was phenomenal. They shot mustard juice all over the place yesterday. I'm sorry to do this on the pod at this point. I don't know where exactly this is going to show up, but aren't we just talking about pre-com? I mean, isn't that what the mustard juice is? No, the mustard juice is worse because you have a turkey sandwich. Yeah, it's worse. No, but you have turkey sandwich or a hot dog. It's all exciting to be like, oh man, I can't wait to put mustard on this. And then the mustard juice goes everywhere. It soaks the bread. I fucking hate the mustard juice. It's worse because we eat it. We're not eating the pre-com. And that's why the mustard juice. But, I mean, this is a. Eduardo's cutting this out. I can feel it. No, this is social clip. I can feel it. Oh, cutting it out to run it. Joe House thinks we're not eating the pre-com. It's a social clip. The mustard juice, here's the thing. It can. It can be dealt with because if you catch it quickly enough, then you can. Not if it gets the bread. Well, but you have. If you get the right. Like, you have to be quick. Like, as soon as you see it, oh, oh, get the container back up. Get that nozzle squared away. Give it a bigger shake. And then get yourself down. And then now, give me some something solid. Are you talking about the pre-com or the mustard? Both. Both. It works for both. Definitely. Use the mustard without doing it over the sink. I understand. And making sure there's mustard juice. And it drives my wife crazy. Well, you're a pro. It's a top 11 most annoying things I do for her. Oh, good. Thanks for the mustard juice in the sink. I'm like, sorry, I don't like mustard juice. It's gross. Yeah, would you rather I have it on my sandwich than I have to waste food? I knew you would like this question. I think it's Utah. That's a great call. I think everybody got excited to hold the Utah mustard. But, oh my God, there. And then, you know, you watched them last night. They can't rebound. Jaron Jackson's over. Overrated. And Peterson is 20 years old. I mean, the worst thing is nobody on that team, not one person is like, I'm going to take this Ty Jerome situation personally. Not one fucking guy on Utah is like, I'm going to go try and stop Ty Jerome. Not one. We talked about it when we did over under. It was like, who's their shutdown guy when somebody gets hot in the other team? How do they handle the two guards together? Who's going to rebound? I just never got it. Well, the Nurkic part is. Is the answer for the rebounding. He should impact that when he comes back. Certainly in a really important piece. You just can't. You said Nurkic. You can't no-show your first game of the season when, you know, Cam Boozer had a bet. Did you look? By the way, the rookies all sucked last night. All the top rookies. The only guy that. Cam Boozer didn't, though. Caleb Wilson had one of the worst rookie of the year things in a while. Boozer was not impressive for four-fifths of that game. He didn't. He didn't need to be. Did he get rebounds, though? So what? That's not. I didn't have time to watch that game. Brayden Burries was pretty good last night. I will say that. He showed something in the second half for Milwaukee. Do you think Kuzma's new business podcast is affecting his basketball at all? He's going to talk to people about business. It's so. It's the number one thing people pitch to us. At this point. Oh, yeah. So it's going to be. He's going to have celebrities and they're going to talk about how they became successful. There's like 7,000 of those. Yeah. So did that change the rookie of the year yesterday? Oh, yeah. Boozer's plus 230 now. He's favorite. Well, he was. He was favored. He's been favored all along. But they were all closer. He was 3-1. Now it's plus 230. He was 3-1. Okay. Peterson moved back. Your guy. Your guy could. Well, he didn't play. My guy didn't play. Let's see him play. You know what I really did enjoy was the Yaxel against Luka. A plus. Plus, plus, plus, plus, plus. I have a question about that coming up later. But he went at him. There was good stats about him. As he should. He's not arriving. This is one of my favorite bets. By the way, that Golden State team is as bad as we imagined. Oh, that was. I locked that as the under. I don't know if I. I feel like I did as well. But what does he have to lose? He's not going to arrive and get punked. I mean, you know, put me on their best player and let me go at it and let me get my NBA season in this way. I thought he handled himself brilliantly. I enjoyed it so much. I have a question about this from Britt. Britt Pierce. Full disclosure. I hate watching Luka play. But breaking down Yaxel's postgame comments, tell me where he was wrong. He said he didn't actually watch NBA games, so he thought Luka was great because he'd only watched his highlights. Then playing a full game against Luka, what he sees is bitching, whining, foul baiting, and push-offs. Just curious what he got wrong. Nothing. Nothing. Who asked that question? Who is this? Britt Pierce. Britt Pierce. Great question. Yeah, he got nothing wrong. We're in lockstep agreement. No notes. By the way, Luka's great. He made a fuck-you-halftime bank shot and stared at Yaxel. I mean, it was. It was funny. And nobody should probably talk shit to Luka because it just seems like it fires him up. Kessler looked great. All my Laker fans are like, oh, my God, you're thinking about the starting team USA Center? It's like, settle down. Let's see if he can play three weeks in a row. They don't get to play Golden State every night. How about that? Yeah. Golden State's going to be bad. And I. And we talked about during the overrun, I have no explanation for the Porzingis thing. One of the weirdest signings ever. They put him, Shams tweeted yesterday that they're exploring trade opportunities. Who the fuck's trading for him? China? How do they sign this guy when they know he had issues already and they lift her and they're like, here's 20 million. The Greek team? They could go to Greece. Well, the rumor was that they're going to try to do like a, take Miles Turner or something like that, where they take a, they somehow get a contract back. And I don't even know how that would work. I watched quite a bit of Miles Turner last night. He might be in Larry Holmes status. It's going to be a very, it's got to be a very narrow, you know, need for a team that acquires Miles Turner. That might've been the rare trade that wasn't good for either team. The Giannis trade. That was my biggest regret from over-unders was going over on Miami. The more I thought, like seeing some of the clay stuff like they just can't hit. I don't think you can survive in the NBA and win 60% of your games or 55% of your games if you're not making threes. And I don't know who's making threes for Miami. I didn't, I didn't like what I, what I saw in that. Tim Hardaway Jr. was one for seven. So there's your answer. Robin W. Listen to my parent corner where I talked about my dad when he came to visit last week and we, he wanted to watch all three Chicago shows in a row when I was doing my podcast. So I had to set him up Chicago PD fire and med. So Robin asks, are the three Chicago shows essentially paw patrol for the elderly? Hey, simple morality stories of how our civil services could save us from various disasters and villains. And he says he's the father of a two-year-old and also is a 70-year-old mother-in-law who lives with them part-time and noticed that his mother-in-law will keep watching paw patrol after his son has left the room. She's of course also an avid viewer. All the Chicago dramas, NCIS and SVU. Time is a flat circle. We all return to paw patrol in the end. Does Dick house watch, watch Chicago shows? I don't believe so. I think he's, he's not, he's moved into a fate. He's not into the, those dramas. He doesn't want to sit through. He, he likes sports still. He's still, you know, heavily involved in our sports stuff. He's not, he's not in those serial dramas. I stopped by to visit my dad today in Boston. And, um, he was watching Boston blue or whatever that Mark Wahlberg show is. And he's like, I don't even really like this show, but I watch every episode. Wait, Mark or Donnie. It's gotta be Donnie. Donnie. Not Mark. Not Mark Wahlberg. Donnie. Boston blue. Speaking of Dick, your dad's, that name is actually Dick house. Richard house has gone by Dick his whole life. Yeah, for sure. Matt Madison, Wisconsin said my over under preview. Pod for the NFC. I looked into a crystal ball, clairvoyant bill, envision a world of mid October where the Packers were struggling and the Brewers would be meekly bowing out to the Dodgers. Although the Packers still have room for improvement, they're doing better. I'd like to invite clairvoyant bill to accept the eat a fat dick award for week seven. Oh, as the Brewers dominated the evil Dodgers in advance of the world series, clairvoyant bill, eat a fat dick. My goodness. So that's now the, now the listeners are inviting. They have nominees. They have nominees for the Stanley cup juice on it. Mark Quadro. Who are you rooting for in that world series? By the way, Brewers race. Uh, I bet on the race Brewers. I'm rooting for the Brewers. We have a Brewer fan in our life. Got to give it up to the chipper. Yeah. The chipper. I think it's more fun if, if he loses in the world series, personally. Why is that more fun? I don't get it. I think it'd be better for his character and wellbeing to baseball. Baseball. It's it's world champion. It's going to be a team where you can hit the ball and it hits the roof. And it's like, Oh, well, it's an out for you. It's an out. If you hit the roof. What? I have two notes for baseball. Sorry. I'm chewing an ice cube. One is I think the home run trots are out of control and we need to go back. We just said we're in a beta society. Now we need to go back to just when you act like an asshole after a home run. Do you just, the next guy just takes one right near his chin and maybe even gets hit. I just thought we, we policed everything. We're doing better that way. What's funny is hockey is the best it's ever been at policing. I don't know if you saw the Kachucks, the highlights of that game yesterday against Ottawa, but it was just like fucking roadhouse for the entire game. They just dropped the gloves immediately. If there's been any misconduct. Baseball, you know, Diaz or Caminero, they're hitting homers. They're, they're stopping. They're turning, staring at their dugout, doing like little things. You can still hit them. Take forever. I don't understand why not. Then they get back in the, here's the other thing I don't like. Everyone does it now where you put like the helmet on the heads or the Red Sox had like a big stupid one and some other ones. I'll put like the green monster one. And let's just go back to hit a home run and go back in and fist bump guys. We're out of control. What's the next level of this? Pull your pants down. I will say this, do that in the dugout and be careful of the mustard juice. In the dugout. I don't mind whatever celebration they want to do. The guys, I like that. Cause like baseball season is so good. It's so goddamn long. You have to have something to, to, to keep that. But the, the trot, I bring back the drill on the guy in the ribs. Why we have, especially in the post season, the expanded rosters, bring a guy in on the bullpen. Let him drill the guy. That's it. He's thrown his pitch. He's hit the guy and off we go. Let's restore some justice. My social media feeds me baseball fights and hockey fights. Thank you. Thank you to everybody. Thank you to everybody in charge of that algorithm. They had one where the managers got in the fight 30 years ago, Phil Garner and forget the other guy, the white socks guy, where they, they were arguing about something. And Phil Garner ran out, was mad. The other guy was, and they just started fighting. The managers were fighting managers. I didn't remember this. It was 1995. They both must've been ex baseball guys. You know what I mean? They were, they were former players. I mean, Garner, obviously, but his opponent must've been, the other guys didn't know whether to start fighting or separate them. And it was, it was hilarious. Stand back. Like it's a hockey fight. You just. You just wait and then you tap your bat, tap your stick. It's just like a hockey fight from Mark quadro. He's curious if house is ready to induct Dan Quinn as the inaugural member of the eat a fat, they call fame two weeks in a row of boneheaded game management. First end of the giants, then going for it on fourth down against the niners, not knowing if it was fourth down or not. And his QB did neither. Has he done enough yet? So this might sound like a. Kind of an outlier take. He doesn't deserve to eat a fat dick. He's just stupid. And you know, he is the, the overseer. He's not the architect because Kyle Shanahan was truly the architect, but he was the head coach in a super bowl where a team came back from 28 to three. He was, and it was a delight. I watch it all the time. Making repeated mistakes in, in game management with, with this. This particular team, I mean, I'm at the point he is the Julio Jones catch. Yeah, they could have kneeled three times and the game would have been basically over. They could have said Matt Ryan figured out a way to go backward by 12 yards. By the way, he's running a team now too. So this is great. Well, I mean, again, to me, that's Shanahan more than, than coach Quinn, but I do like the coach Quinn. He took the backward hat. He brought it around to the front. We've seen a lot more front hat. So I, I appreciate that gesture. Good. He's giving good front hat. Yeah. And. And by all accounts, he's a wonderful guy. The team loves him. The players. Wonderful guy. We're doing that now. Okay. Oh, that's. There's nothing to extol any virtue in terms of actual coaching game management. I don't know what he does. He, he bungles all of the game, game management calls in front of him. Um, but I wish him. He built the culture. I wish him the best of luck. I don't intend for him to eat a fat dick. He didn't do anything. You have somebody in mind for this week's eating? Contest. Let's just go through it. Let's just keep moving. I might. We'll see how it goes. Grant in Kansas city. Can city now hoping the blazers thing falls apart so they can sneak in with El Cheapo. By the way, I'm going to Portland for, uh, yeah, you are for the pod. I saw that. Go visit that restaurant. See you at the phone booth. This still there. You remember? I mean, look, you could always come. Oh, is that an invite? Oh, you could always come. I'm just. It's a BS pod, right? You're doing the show. It's a BS pod. I mean, I'm on the BS pod. We're making Klosterman join us. Oh, that's amazing. Thinking about calling it El Cheapo Palooza. Like very, getting very close, like t-shirts, hats. It's, it's, it's a possibility. What if they're five and oh, by the time you get out there. So like, what if they rip off a bunch of wins? Are you following what this guy's doing to them? I mean, that's the thing about play by promise them a first-class facility or he's able to leave in 2030 with no punishment. And, and so they, they basically put the relocation fee, I think was a billion dollars or something if he left and he got really mad at that. Like he clearly is trying to leave. Grant Kansas city wants to know in the over-unders pod for the East, for the NBA, Joe house said the nets had supposedly moved past tanking and turn the corner wrong. Well, I'm just reading the question. Go ahead. Prompting the entirely reasonable. Question. What the fuck corner did they turn? Was it the one in good fellas when Jimmy Conway kept. waving Karen Hill down the alley toward the stolen Dewey addresses. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's over there. So then he says that makes Sean Marks, Jimmy Conway, Nets fans, Karen Hill, and the rebuild is the Dewey address. Is this the ultimate Goodfellas team? It's Grant's question. It's not a bad one, but Grant's missing a crucial distinction. When I was talking about the Nets and going through that, I was reporting something that I had read. The research, amongst the research, somebody, I can't remember which, you know, punditry, which publication in their season forecast has characterized the Nets situation as a turn-the-corner situation. So you were passing that along. I had the exact same question as Grant. What fucking corner did they turn? I mean. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, one more. No, no, that's right. No, no, no. He wasn't wrong. Grant's not wrong. No, no, no, we're going to trade Michael Porter Jr. Right there, right. No, go around. They really should do that. And they have every. They're still incented to tank. I mean, I think I said that they should do. They should, you know, just bite down super hard on the two balls. I would put two balls, dangling balls, under the Nets. I mean, we went through this. Come on, Grant. Okay. Sorry, Grant. We're taking a quick break. Then finish. We'll be back in the mailbag and do a ringer 107. And now it's time for Who's Delivering presented by Uber Eats. You know who's delivering on game day? The rookie having a breakout. The player who's suddenly having a moment. The veteran turning back the clock. Uber Eats delivers more than just wings for the watch party. Might be a Bluetooth speaker for the pregame. Beers and seltzers for the tailgate. Cleaning supplies when somebody spills salsa. In the second quarter, you can get almost, almost anything for game day on Uber Eats. So on Sundays, I think of all the guys who showed up this year that I wasn't counting on and actually did. CJ Stroud might be my number one. He was the big question heading in with the Texans. 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DeBlundo was a pretty good ad. I don't. It's a DeBlunder. It's an all-time DeBlunder. It's a DeBlunder. So that's pretty. A DeBlundo as a food mistake, that would be like. Getting mustard juice all over your sandwich before you get. That's a DeBlundo. Maybe we have Chang make him a mustard juice something. Are you still making jokes about this on Ringer Wiseguys or is it dying down? No, I mean, we're calling him Stewie. So it still comes up. I mean, there's lots of opportunities still. Okay. Corbin from Chesterfield, Michigan. One of the best emails of the year. I'm a Clippers fan. Anytime Kawhi was on the court for Raptors Bulldogs, he was on the court for Raptors Bulldogs tonight. I felt like seeing OJ Simpson live a free life after being acquitted for double murder. My word. Everyone that paid attention to the Cap circumventing scandal knows Leonard was not only a part of it, but had vivid knowledge of what was going on. I. This is a consensus opinion from the Clipper fans. He just walked away scot-free and now he's on the Raptors and the Raptors looked unbelievable last night. I don't think you have to be. Everything's fine for him. You don't have to be. a Clippers fan to have that same take. He did. He walked away scot-free. I don't know. So does that make Uncle Dennis A.C. Cowlings or who? Oh, boy. I got Kawhi in the car. You know who this is, goddammit! That is some analogy. OJ living scot-free, my word. I will say, I want to be very. proceed very cautiously here. Yeah. The odds aren't great if you look at the. the last eight years of Kawhi's career of back-to-back game. seasons where he plays a sufficient number of games to really impact. So you're telling the Clippers fans, be patient. The basketball karma, the basketball gods, they have a way. Speaking of the Bulls, Alec H. says, my take on the likelihood of NBA commentators coining and using more than once the term booze cruise for either a Bozellus-led or a Bozellus-led. co-led Bulls win this season. He break down percentages. He had Mark Jones, 97%. Richard Jefferson, 88%. The field, 28%. And nobody uses it less than 1%. Well, I'm going to use it because I love booze cruise. I don't know. What were we doing the last two years? Anytime Bozellus scores 25 plus points, we're on a booze cruise. Okay, that's a booze cruise because it can't be tied to team success. It has to be his own individual success. He dunks on somebody. Booze cruise is like 25 plus points. 25, 10, 30, 10. I think we need booze cruise shirts. I'm all in on booze cruise. And I'm even okay if Mark Jones says it. But it's got to be something like remarkable and individual accomplishment by him. Because that team. Like his first triple-double. We went on a booze cruise today in Chicago. That's pretty good. I like that. Booze cruise is great. Tom Eck writes in, from my beautiful and brilliant wife, Amanda Eck, I have a suggestion. Okay. How about a red zone, multi-box equivalent for holiday movies? It's hard to get everyone together in your family and you only have so much time and attention spans are short. You just play four movies at the same time and you can just dip around with the audio in the multi-view. I laughed at this and then I'm convinced my wife would watch this. If it was like the holiday, the notebook, Devil Wears Prada, my best friend's wedding and it was just a four box and she could move the audio around, I swear to God she would watch this. Really? But those are rom-coms. That's not holiday movies. Well, but it made me, same thing for holiday, whatever. Like rom-coms, holiday, like basically multi-view for people like my wife. I think it's a home run idea. I'd like to see, I'd like to see Casey Bloys at HBO Max be the first one to try this or Netflix since we're on Netflix right now. How about that? I don't know if Netflix has multi-view. Do they have it? I thought the NBA had the multi-view going yesterday and it was delightful. I enjoyed it. They did a great job. Like they got better at it. They figured out how to just keep the whole screen, which we argued, we were yelling about last year. Just have all the games. The hard thing with the movies is for especially movies that you're familiar with, you can't have, you know, the key dialogue moments occur simultaneously. They need to be staggered in some manner because you, you know, you want your money shots. You want to be able to get. But if it's the multi, multi-view for the movies and I'm watching four sports movies at the same time, and maybe two great scenes are happening simultaneously and then it becomes a Sophie's Choice trying to figure out which one I want to watch. But I can just bounce around with the audio, but I still get to see everything. I'm all in on this. I think it'd be great at bars. I think we just need more multi-view in general. It definitely works at bars. More multi-view. The bars give you, that's one of my favorite things about the holiday season when the bar has a TV dedicated to a great holiday movie. You can't hear it in the bar, but it does, it's a nostalgic thing. That's pretty good. It's a nostalgic thing. Even during the day at a bar, you could have, you have like, First Things First is on, Get Back Up with Peter Schrager, ESPN News, just four. four people yelling about sports at you. I was simultaneously, I found myself, uh, I'm not going to describe all of the circumstances, but I found myself in a bar on Tuesday. Oh no. Yeah. Tuesday. That's when the, why are you not going to describe all the circumstances? What it was just like a Tinder date. What are you hiding? I'm not against it, but I was with my family and, um, we were in a neighborhood and my kid was hungry. It was, it was middle of the day. Yeah. So we went to an Irish bar. Cause he's like, you know, let's go to Irish bars. I mean, three 45 in the afternoon packed. Thanks be so happy. This is in Rockville, Maryland, right? This is an, in a, in like a town center kind of place. And a lot of regulars in there, a lot of people coming in, everybody knows each other, you know, shaking the hands and everything. I felt like an outsider. Uh, I was thrilled. We had two giant screens with the game on. And I was like, I, I had bet on the Celtics. So I was thrilled by what I'd seen the first half of that game. I was enjoying it very much. Uh, the Paul George, you know, whatever. Um, but it was, it was just like, I was reminded, this is what makes America great. America, is great. It doesn't need to be great again. It's already great because it's fucking three 45 on a Tuesday afternoon, October the 20th. And the fucking bar is packed and they weren't in there for the piston Celtics game. I can assure you of that. Yeah. Anything we do that is more like when you go to London and people are just drinking at a pub at two o'clock on a Tuesday for no reason. It's like, we just need more of that. Right. Communal it's community. People are telling stories with each other. I forgot to finish this point when I did, I did my, my six pack Tuesday night after the three NBA games. Yes. And I started this thing about the early game piston Celtics. And I forgot to land the plane on it. Cause I got sidetracked. Sure. I'm pro. I think they should have a Tuesday three o'clock game every week. And they do it because that's they're showing it in, in Europe, right? It's primetime Europe. It's primetime in France. It's primetime in London, Germany, pick a, pick a country. I'm just pro. I think you could do it with these different, and maybe, maybe it's a Friday. You can start it early because that makes it more realistic, but I'm pro. I liked the weekday early game, especially in the west coast. It was amazing. Well, Thursday, they already have a slate of games, putting an early game on before the NFL game as your lead into Thursday night football, like make, get a marquee NBA matchup at East coast time and four, four 30 or five and feed me right into NFL Thursday night football. That's good. Can I give you a note on your, your six pack from Tuesday? Yeah, I'll speak for myself, but I think that America shares this point of view. Okay. You saving the Celtics for last. I know you did it on purpose. How could they were the, they were the, the longest away from the opening game though. So what I was coming on after OKC, I was on a high from Mara playing 10 minutes. It was an amazing, the OKC San Antonio game was phenomenal. I, I, I, I was hoping and I'll let's see how it goes. There is a take has the NBA figured out Wemby because you know, the Knicks held Wemby to under, to, to like in the low 40% in terms of shooting efficiency. And he sucked again, shooting wise against the thunder. I mean, how, how many more games are we going to have to go? I saw this on social and it was a great, great game. I mean, I'm a former NBA player and I'm really sorry that I can't say what player it was, but it was one of the 130 former NBA players that are on podcasts with fancy studios and the one way guy, but made the point of does Wemby have a go-to move? It's a great point. And it was the first time I was like, huh? Cause we talked about this in the playoffs last year, but he doesn't have his version of like the cream sky hook or a jump hook or anything. And it does seem at the end of these games, he's 25 feet from trying to figure out stuff, and these teams are getting better at it. But, I mean, the Mara thing was super exciting. Yes. That, you know, we'll see if it ever happens again. But I thought that was a significant. I said it that night, but even two days later, I felt like that was a significant win for OKC. Oh, I agree. I think they are clearly the team to bet. You know, the funny thing is, it is time is a flat circle kind of moment. You will recall that San Antonio announced its arrival last season by deliberately circling all of the Oklahoma City Thunder games and coming in and trying to punch them in the face and all of that. That's why they went 8-4 against the Thunder last season. Yeah. And so the Thunder are like, oh, we took notes. We have been sitting all off season. We are ready for you on game one. And I enjoyed it thoroughly. OKC is plus 110 for the conference on Fandle. OK. And plus 200 for the title. And I still think. I think it's about another week before. All of those odds have a minus in front of them. Title won't. The title will probably get into the hundreds, but the conference ones will get to like minus 140 and minus 130. I'm not betting any of that. Did Minnesota suck you in at all last night? No. Yeah, that's what we know is going to happen. It was a mismatch. And Anthony Edwards and LaMelo Ball combined for 33-point attempts. I loved it. That's just what they're going to be. Is that what they're going to do? 33 points. Now, I don't know how many of those they walked on. They certainly walked on what felt like, you know, four or five of them. The LaMelo Ball where he took seven steps. The new travel thing? His gather step. I mean, it's a gather six steps. OK. By all means, the league's going to accommodate that now. OK. But no, it's a very fun way to play. And Ant talking shit the whole game was very enjoyable as well. I am. I said this after the trade and I still wouldn't have done the trade and I didn't like it for them. But I did think the number one, the number one reason they did this other than they changed the vibes, which you could feel last night. We haven't had a team like that in a while. Yeah. What was the last team that really swaggered it up like that? Oh, that's a great question. Like they're just like having fun together, talking shit to everybody. Like it's been a while. You probably go back to like early job Grizzlies. That's pretty good. It was the last team that was just like, we're here. The three-point variance is the. I'm convinced Tim Connolly, this is. This is number one, number two, number three reason. Because in a seven-game series where you don't have as many good players is OKC or San Antonio. But three out of seven times, you can have a game like they had last night. Yeah. And then you have one other. And then that's how you beat those teams. And I think that's why he did it. I don't think it's going to work. I don't think so either. 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Download the Fandle app to check out all of our 107 picks and boosted teasers every week this season. I can't wait. to do 1,700 UCLA bets while I'm here in Boston. Ringer 107. You have first pick this week because it's an odd week. So you tell us what you're doing. Okay, okay. I'm worried because I feel confident. I feel confident too. I don't like it. It makes me uncomfortable to feel confident. And I had to try and be judicious with which teams do I want in my teaser versus teams that I want to bet on outright. Some really good teaser options this week. Three of my favorite games are ones where I could easily play them outright. And I've already bet them on my own card as outrights. But I'm going to use them. It's so funny. We didn't talk about this at all. And I had the exact same thing. It's like, ah, do I use this as straight up or one of the two teaser spots? Right. So, very straightforward. Going to go ahead and lay it with Houston. Anything under 13 points is fine by me. Houston minus 10.5 at home against the Giants. This is J.J. McCarthy's return, I guess. What would you call it? He played last week. He had a great fourth quarter. An incredible return. What's he returning from? Being terrible? Well, I mean, he was traded. He was dumped. So, what is it? Don't call it a comeback? I don't want to call it a comeback. So, that's why I said return. I don't know what it is, but he threw for like 250 yards in the quarter. He's coming off the bench. Yep. But now he's going into Houston who needs a win because they continue to need wins because they started out the season so badly. Yeah. And Houston's laying minus 10.5 and you're not scared at all. No, not in the least bit. It is a combination of just a reminder to the world of how bad J.J. McCarthy was last season in some of the most important statistical categories, completion percentage, over-expectation. He was bottom. He was bottom three out of 50-some quarterbacks that started a sufficient number of snaps. The same is true of EPA per play. You can get into the numbers and find eight or 10 things that all look and smell like shit. And I think that with this, this Giants offense can't run the ball. It's the worst run offense. Cam Scatabubu played and somehow had zero runs. Zero fantasy points. Yeah, they iced him. They didn't, like, why did they do that to America? There are a bunch of fantasy fools out there that have him on their roster, but they're like, we're putting this, was it because of the fumble against Washington that they did that? Was that the punishment? Harbaugh squirted mustard juice all over everybody. He's like, I don't care that you started Cam Scatabubu this week. He didn't say we're, you know, DNP coach's decision. He peed. He played, but he didn't. Like, no carries. That is very rude. Anyway, I like this Houston offense with the weapons, especially CJ Stroud just continues to keep cooking. Harrison was good for them. He was good. So they're 14th. I have them in a tease, so I did some work on this one. Okay. I wrote down, they're being served JJ McCarthy medium rare. My favorite. It's like, do you want a little darker red on the inside? They're like, no, no, no, just medium rare is good. Yeah. Houston defense 14th and DVOA, but they've already played Allen, Burrow, Dak and Lawrence. Right. Exactly. They played dimes and they played Cam Ward gave up 20 points total in those two games. They do have a couple injuries though. That that's what worried me about the 10 and a half. I get it. The Al Shayer looks like he's not playing. He didn't practice today or yesterday. The Petrie's hurt Blankenship. So they might be missing three starters. So that's why I wanted to tease them down to minus four and a half. Cause I had the same thing. I don't know how many chances we're going to be able to have to bet against JJ McCarthy without a running game. I just want the first chance. I'll take the first chance right away. Plus as, as the bundle as jokes, Houston, just banking field goals. Like we know they're not going to do anything stupid. They're just going to be like, we're, we're happy to go up nine, nothing. We're happy to go up 13 to three. We're happy to go up. As long as CJ doesn't throw an interception in the end zone, you know, when they're driving, I don't think he won't. I'm a believer in CJ. I think he's been really good. He did that last week against Jacksonville. It was the dagger score that they were sitting on. That's London game. Okay. London makes everybody crazy. It makes people lose their minds. That game was over as soon as Houston, you know, got the score that they should have had. I don't, not worried about that against this Giants team. So I'm going to lay all the points. I don't mind it. Anything under 13, I'm in favor of. I have that in a tease and I'll do it later. Cause I want to talk the tease out with you, but I want to see what else we take. My first pick. So one of the things with doing these on Thursday, where if you think the line's going to shift grabbing it on a Thursday versus like, oh, I think the line's going to shift my way. I'll wait until Sunday and see if it changes. Yeah. Bengals plus one and a half at Baltimore. Excuse me. It made me, made me burp. I was so excited. Bengals plus one and a half plus one and a half at Baltimore. I think by the time we get to Sunday, the Bengals are going to be favored in this game. And I think it's going to swing three points because I don't think Lamar Jackson's going to play. He's by all counts, like he left a practice. He was hobbling and they have the bills next week. I think they're four and four in two weeks. Baltimore, they're four and two right now. Yeah. Meanwhile, you have since he coming off a buy. Yes. You have you have Baltimore flipping their offensive line all the way around again that they haven't settled on a combination yet. Hendrickson's already hurt and all the Cincinnati fans are all excited that Hendrickson is hurt because this was the wrap on Hendrickson. That's not nice, but I understand. And since he was like, this fucking guy's already hurt. Oh, it's hurt. And, and since he really needs it, I thought they lost some mojo from the first couple weeks. I like their matchup of their run defense against, against Henry. Yeah. I don't think it matters if they're, if they're in Cincinnati or on the road. I think they're fine either way. I think they'll be able to move the ball. And if this is Huntley, there's too, there's too much tape on him now. Like he could barely do anything in Cleveland last week. So to me, I thought about them in a tease. I love the Bengals plus seven and a half, but I'm going to take it straight up because I think the line moves. So since he plus one and a half. Great. This is going to help us expedite this segment because I also have since he plus one. Oh, interesting. At Baltimore for all the reasons you just listed. Plus the fact that that I feel very confident the Baltimore insiders in this area are like there's no chance Lamar is playing. Yeah. And I and the line moved the last two days indicating that that's out there now. There is no explosive possibility with Baltimore. Baltimore needs to get the ball down the field to, you know, really realize the best version of itself offensively and Snoop just won't do it. So they will load the box. We they just have tons of tape. I lost last week. This Baltimore team was up on Cleveland ten off. And I had Baltimore in that game that that I had the funnel all the way down to three. Yep. Derek Henry front fumbled flips the horse one this year. Goddamn game. And I ended up taking the L on that. So this is a little bit of pettiness out of me. But I am joining you on Cincinnati plus one and a half. Both receivers healthy also. I mean, this is your classic NFC North matchup. They have to, you know, both teams. Super. Super motivated. I would say it's more classic for the AFC North. What did I say? NFC? Yeah. Standard. I'm correcting you the way you correct me. As you should. It's appropriate. I really like this specific. I think the Bengals really lucked out coming off a bye. Lamar was supposed to play. Didn't. Baltimore coming off a really bad loss. They. I'm not giving up a Baltimore by any means, but I think they're going to be four and four after eight weeks. And then they'll probably turn into the team. I don't know what they were. I'm a little worried about Zach Taylor versus Minter. Sure. And. Reasonable. Just a whiff worried about. Joe Burrow. Let's. Let's. Let's get going here. Are you one of the six or seven best QBs in the NFL or not? That I think this is a referendum game for the Bengals in a lot of different ways, including with that question. Yeah. Hey, Joe Burrow. Let's see it. You're going against Tyler Huntley on the road. Like, come on. You're. You're plus one and a half. How are you not favored in this game? All right. So we both have Cincy that puts me back up. It does. Man. Well, this goes back to our discussion earlier. I think the Rams had the stink on them. I'm taking the Raiders at home. Plus four and a half. I think it's way too many points. And I get like the biggest stats. They put New England, Buffalo, Kansas City last three games. So their DVO is bad. They're 26. They haven't been able to run the ball. But I also think that maybe they have some tricks up their sleeve this week. I think this is a kitchen sink game for them. I don't think there's gonna be a ton of Rams fans there because I don't think there are a ton of Rams fans. So they'll have a good crowd. And honestly, really surprised by the line. I think this should be Rams by one and a half. Okay. Two. Yeah, I really do. I think the Rams are a mess. I don't trust the special teams at all for them, especially in the road. I don't think they have. They have no deep threat at all. Now, they don't have atoms so just fucking triple-team Puka. What are they going to do now? They need their run game to just run the ball down Vegas' throat, which they might be able to do. The run game's been pretty good this season. Yeah. So maybe that's what they do. I haven't seen from Stafford. And I don't think they're Rams defense. I think you can move the ball on them. And I like what I've seen from Cousins. I like the two tight ends. I think Trey Tucker is actually pretty good. Agree. And I think this is a three-point game. So I'm getting a point and a half. And I could see the Rams losing this. I was thinking about for Ringer 107, maybe next year, we have a parlay component to you. The five picks, plus you have to pick some sort of parlay that's plus 350 or higher. You love it. You love to play. And that's fine. Go ahead. We do on the Ringer Wiseguys program every week an underdog money line play, for sure. I get it. I'm saying a parlay, but it could be anything. Yes. You could move up to. Because one of the ones I liked. Where is it? Oh, the Tennessee-Cleveland game. Which I don't have in Ringer 107. Nor do I. But one bet that I think would be fun is like Tennessee minus nine and a half in that game. If they're ever going to blow somebody out, this would be the game. That crappy Browns team. That's pretty good. So you do a money line parlay with Tennessee minus nine and a half and then the Raiders money line, something like that. But everything you have to do would have to be plus 500 or higher. And then we just see if you hit one, you get a one. You know, you get a one, basically. Oh, okay. That's fun. Anyway, I think the Raiders aren't bad. The Pats made them look bad. They caught the Pats on the wrong week. Yeah. They had a fly cross country after that. Yeah. They hung with Buffalo legitimately. This is my only question that I'll say out loud. Both the Rams and the Bills coming off that Monday night game that went into overtime. And that was a knock down, drag out affair. They both look shitty on Sunday. And I think it's because of what that Monday night game took out of both of those teams. I mean, the Bills for sure. And that was Devontae Adams. Well, it's a bummer for Devontae. Do you really think the Rams could move the ball in the same way with Puka and that's it? Like, they don't really have anybody else. I don't trust them at all. I've watched every Rams game. I think they're in a really weak spot right now. I think they can run the ball. You're right. They are in a weak spot. They just lost to the Arizona fucking Cardinals that were supposed to win three games this season. Yes, they're in a bad spot right now. I was alarmed by how hard it was for them to move the ball in the fourth quarter against a defense that had just given up 45 points. Like, even on their drive when they took the lead, it basically happened because Puka was double covered. They threw him a pass and two guys bounced off him. He basically just single-handedly created a 40-yard pass. But it was an eight-yard throw. They don't get any throws downfield. You're right. It looked like a lack of preparation. to me. They don't get the ball downfield because Stafford isn't comfortable enough. He's not standing back there. He's not. I think the Raiders can get him. I think this is a big Max Crosby game, so I'm going to take Raiders plus four and a half. Thank you for the extra points, Vegas. Go ahead. Do it. Your last pick. I kind of hate myself for this, but I just have to do it. I have to take this number. I'm going to go ahead and lay the two and a half with Seattle at home against the Kansas City Chiefs. God damn it. I'm doing it, too. Yeah. You have to do it. I mean, you know exactly what you're walking into and nobody will be yelling F.U.'s, you know, F.U. Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold will be invited to eat a fat dick if he throws another two interceptions this upcoming week against the Chiefs. I mean, the fear with this pick, I went through all the emotions with it and I landed in the same spot. But the fear with this pick is that he sucks early and the crowd gets restless. And that's where you don't want to be with this pick. I couldn't agree more. Sam just threw a pick. The crowd's groaning. Yeah, they showed Drew Locke on the on the bench. You know, it's a night game. So the TV crew is like, there's Drew Locke looks really good in week two. So, yeah, I went through all the emotions for this. Yes. Go ahead. Make your case. Well, the case is, you know, who knows Kenneth Walker better than this team? Who knows Kenneth Walker better than Mike McDonald? I am really thrilled to have a Mike McDonald, Mike McDonald, Andy Reid combo. And Mike McDonald has the benefit of the extra time. He's coming off a Thursday night game. Andy Reid off the bye. So both teams coming in with additional rest for sure. Seahawks have it's an 11 days for the Seahawks. Yeah. Thursday to Monday. So that's great. That is great. But it's just so, so rich that the Seahawks rush defense is so extraordinary and it's been excellent for a couple of years now. But the added layer of their ability to, you know, the way that the Chiefs have been deploying Walker is outside. We keep seeing him. He's busting these. Well, nobody's better than Seattle at, you know, closing off that route for opposing runners. And it does seem like the Chiefs are going to be missing Jonathan Simmons once again. It's 50-50, I think. And then the other tackle, it seems like, might be out as well. But a lot of this is, to me, the NFL, great job. Congratulations. You did it. You got exactly what you wanted. You gave the Chiefs the easiest goddamn schedule in the entire NFL and the Chiefs did what they were supposed to do. Mahomes hasn't looked great. He hasn't like a good get in. Now, a lot of that has to do with the continuing injuries in that receiver room. But he's not, you know, his accuracy isn't up to the standard that he his own self has created. He's not Walker's covered a lot of words. He's not throwing the ball down the field. They have been doing an enormous leap forward in terms of play action. Mahomes under center, like, you know, 20% higher in terms of the percentages of, they just renovated their offense with Kenneth Walker, this weapon that they have. And you've got to give it up to Andy Reid and the Chiefs for doing so. But now it's time. Now it's time to pay the Piper. Let's see it. And I'm willing to go ahead and lay the two and a half for them to show me. It's a show me game. Well, it's the old Lombardi axiom. Bad offensive lines don't travel. Chiefs offensive line looks bad. So you got that. You've wide receiver issues. Charbonnet is back for the Seahawks. Now he's coming off a torn ACL, but their running back situation has been pretty bad. At least now he's somebody that can pound into the line. You mentioned earlier with Casey, they're 5-0. They're 5-0 against Bo Nix, Daniel Dimes, Malik Willis, Kirk Cousins, who's the best quarterback of all these five I'm going to mention, and One Wish Willow, Justin Herbert. That's the five QBs they played. Including last week, the emotionally shattered Justin Herbert, who's just completely checked out. And then you have Seattle. It was 3-3, 11 days rest. They gave away the game against your stupid team. They blew the Niners game, all self-inflicted wounds, and gave up one drive. But that was one of the dumbest losses of the year. And then four days later, they have the stupid loss to Denver, which was one of the dumbest games of the year, and not even really worth talking about. It was just stupid. Kitchen sink game for them, I think. Agreed. They can't be 3-4 at this point in the season. And honestly, KC doesn't they need the game. It's a night game, but there's a level of desperation. It's completely different for Seattle because you fall back. You're 3-4. You're so far back in the NFC West at that point. But yeah. Are we first quarter? Are we going to be texting each other like, oh my God, this Sam Darnold thing has gone completely sideways? I don't know. Look what we did to ourselves. We might be. It is a secondary with the Chiefs. That Seattle should be able to exploit. The problem for Seattle is their opposing defenses know what they're going to do. They're in passing situations so often because they can't establish anything with the run. They can't run play action. Nobody is biting on the idea that the run is something that's going to be successful. I like taking the team that is 3-3, but all three losses were stupid, and they probably could have won if a couple things had happened. For sure. And they're home. They have to have it. It's a must-have. It's a must-have. Also, for me, I didn't want to wait until Sunday. I like the minus 2.5 because I think this goes to 3. I want to get it now. Okay. All right. I was going to ask you that. Go ahead. Who do you have for a teaser? I'm doing the Vikings from 6.5 down to just a half. I certainly looked at it. They have to beat the Colts outright. That's the requirement. Certainly, I understand the challenges. I don't want to lay 6.5 with Kyler Murray. I don't want to try and forecast the Vikings' offense doing anything meaningful, even though the Colts' defense is an abomination. I think Jordan Mason's coming back. Did I see that? But in any event, it doesn't really matter. I like the Vikings to win that game outright because the havoc of this defense against Daniel Dimes is by far the most convincing element of it. And they've had Daniel Dimes. I do want to mention you are putting Kyler Murray in a tease. I understand. I get it. I just, that has to be mentioned. It's like a disclaimer. It's like putting a kid's toy where it has the stuff written on the side of it. Kyler Murray in a tease. You did just do that. I'm overreacting to my own embarrassment, my self-debasement at putting the stupid-ass Saints into a tease when the Saints played the Vikings because I was like, oh, there's no way that the Saints are going to lose by double digits. The Saints can move the ball even against a great defense. like, like Minnesota and Kyler Murray, how are they going to score? and a well that was stupid so i'm not going to make that kind of mistake again and so i'm asking the vikings to win this game outright at home it feels reasonable win with your defense don't do anything offensively that can threaten anything just kick field goals and win 13 to 3 yeah exactly seems reasonable what's the other piece of your tease uh it's a little bit you know i don't love it but i'm playing green bay getting nine to green bay from the three to the nine holy on the road at detroit and there's lots of numbers that talk about detroit um with the extra rest detroit at home that in you know in in this particular matchup i just like what i've seen out of the packers the last two weeks i'm not prepared to play the packers um in this i think detroit minus three is a fair number um but the packers defense very quietly what they did to the dallas offense now the the hard thing to to assess is did was that an element of jonathan gannon and that defense scheming up something against those those dallas weapons or was dallas self-sabotaging uh and the answer is probably yes because it was probably both is there an answer that covers the wide receivers just see me bummed out jogging through routes is that self-sabotage that's covered probably um the other element to this it's a it's a huge division game if green bay see green bay the quiet thing josh jacobs back right so yeah that's a that's a big deal that's a big effing deal for green we've been skeptical of their offensive line they changed some protection and they got love some time and they immediately ripped off two good wins a good win against the bears even though it was against uh tyson badgent and a good win against dallas i mean you know both of those were at home i get that going into the dome and green in in detroit you're walking into harm's way a little bit but i like them to keep it under two scores so that's the reason for the teaser leg teasers we brought them back on fando by the way we had a score up last week with bringer 107 but all of our picks will be on uh fando this weekend including our teasers with the minus 110 jews so i already took texans minus four and a half a once in a lifetime opportunity to bet against jj mccarthy on the road with a good defense hopefully so my other candidates for the tees i had the vikings down and really stared long and hard at kyler murray falcons plus eight and a half against the 49ers all the 49ers injuries yeah looked long and hard i'm so tired of being wrong with the 49ers i just i they're i'm just staying away well the part of it the other side of that fuck off atlanta well that's the other thing is you're not healthy the goddamn game barely started they're down 21 nothing their defense didn't show they're at home against the bears just fuck caleb caleb sets his own personal record he's been out for a month he comes back and immediately rips off 12 straight completions caleb williams does and and you know this this deep they're unprepared they rush bijan nine fucking times atlanta can fuck off i i'm sorry i thought you were gonna cook something for stefanski there maybe maybe well i'm not doing the falcons okay i don't trust them yeah i don't think there's a worse sight in gambling than watching two a warm-up they're none worse i looked at the titans long and hard plus seven and a half that just seemed like a lot of points it would have been hilarious i would have enjoyed it it seemed like a lot of points for a titans browns game you know there's another piece we can do with the with the teasers too which is the over-unders you can do it so you can take titans browns which i can't find on fanduel because maybe oh there it is it has yellow police tape around it and a chalk outline of a body 37 and a half so you can take that up to 43 and a half but then i was thinking with watson who know pick sixes like god only knows with these teams staying away from that good job i did look at it though and i and i kept circling back sadly to kyler murray and the vikings yeah i can't believe it i'm doing it i'm doing it the vikings so i went i even went back and i looked through some of the uh vikings colts matchups sure over the years they shut two years ago they shut down jonathan taylor flacco was the qb for the colts but that made me feel better yeah but yeah it's just betting on the minnesota defense just i didn't win by one point i don't really care right the only thing that's when i won the only thing that gets us is is chris ballard liberation like you know carly will be on the sidelines i thought about that but guys we got we got rid of that that bum that only works for coaches though yeah it's not like oh our gm's not here anymore i'm gonna play harder i agree there isn't yeah i don't think there is a a bounce for that isn't uh also here's the other thing with the colts and this is what made me feel good about taking kyler murray in minnesota it's really bad sal and i covered it sunday night this is the angriest fan base right now the colts so they fired the gm but it's still the same owners and it's still a coach that might not actually be a competent head coach and the quarterback situation got messed up sauce gardner they trade two picks for him i don't think he's playing this week he's not injuries alice pierce they gave all this money to he's not playing yeah that's part of the handicap yeah yeah um and i just think it i think it gets sadder and worse for colt fans so the only way you lose this game is jonathan taylor just goes nuts he has like one of his 23 carries for 230 yards games i'm not ruling it out against the vikings that would be something but i'm gonna do it as well it would have to be we have two kyler turnovers that's that's what would would get us and with the t's you like having i am betting in the t's against jj mccarthy and the colts to lose are the two sides i need to hit and you feel better about that i was gonna ask you if you thought that philadelphia's fan base was madder than the colts but god i haven't even talked about that on the podcast one of the most egregious medical handling of any sports thing not since tyrod taylor got stabbed by the chargers doctor i think that was our leader for the decade until this happened yeah i mean it's really awful if this was like our kid like your son or my son i'd be so fucking mad right of course of course like what he had a blood clot what what's going on and he was in the hospital and then he said oh well he'll go play the game with the blood and then the blood clots go from the leg to the to the lungs like i i haven't sat down and done invested the time to to properly go through the timeline and understand of course the nfl stepped in and their own medical folks are endorsing the way the eagles approached it of course that's a great job yeah but the best job they nailed it the guy's career might be over but you know what no no mistakes were made i did think about that but after with the eagles putting dallas and something but what dallas did last week yeah and the eagles maybe who knows i i just that's a stay away from me all right i mean they won the super bowl two years ago it's fine so ringer 107 picks we both have seattle minus two and a half we both have cincinnati plus one and a half i have the raiders plus four and a half you have houston minus ten and a half i have houston and a tease down to minus four and a half with minnesota just to win you have a tease with minnesota just to win and green bay plus nine and what's going to happen is on sunday we will be able to add one more pick and hopefully i could not be the pittsbill stealers and uh and could actually um pour some mustard juice over my picks and go four and one or five and oh i am oh and six on my sunday picks thus far this season on your best bets your wise no no no when we make our pick on sunday i have your hand in picks to mikey b balls haven't gotten one right oh and oh no i had the ravens last week i felt pretty good about that number had gone from three and a half down to three i mean i don't want to i will not subject america to the litany of missteps and and mistakes i will say i'm four and two and teases so if you want to bat me on anything four and two on the teaser for the season that was today's ringer 107 brought to you by fando download the app now to find our 107 picks make this your most rewarding season ever fando player game odd subject to change um and by the way just throw in any of those with the ucla money line this week pretty good i don't know what it's up to and i don't think it really matters just throw them in um house a true pleasure as always i will see you next week for ringer 107 thanks all right that's it for the podcast thanks to palacero thanks to house thanks to gahal and eduardo and chris and jack as well uh don't 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