Caitlin Clark on New Nike Ad, Signature Shoe & Fantasy Punishments + Week 18 Preview | EP 173

Do you feel more comfortable that I could maybe dunk in a few weeks or get better at shooting in a few weeks? Oh boy Is that what we're calling that all you need is 30 days 30 days 30 days what I'm going for I told him he had to lose at least 20 pounds and get the technique down perfectly I think you need to start with like a tennis ball then you get the tennis ball You go to like a volleyball then you go to basketball. I mean don't ask me. I obviously I obviously don't dunk Are you dunking? Heck no. I could maybe like grab the rim but like I just shoot three That's good Welcome back to new highs ladies and gentlemen boys and girls a one-dry show brought to you by Nike That's right. I'll let Jason get into what we got coming up on this show But you're not gonna want to miss this. I'm Travis Kelsey is my big brother Jason out of Cleveland. Hi So hi. Oh, we got the ESPN zone rocking this week one of our childhood favorites Subscribe on YouTube one three plus wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show and all social media At new heights show with one S for fun clips throughout the week and now I hand it over to Jason to tell you exactly what we got In this week's episode. Thank you for saying we got another amazing episode First we're going to catch up on what we've been doing since the last week. We uh recorded one and also we're going to look ahead to the final week of the NFL season Also, we have somebody known uh to probably everybody in the country at this point. Okay, look like it's here Meaning her second on the podcast. Yeah, we're gonna talk about her new Nike ad and her signature shoe and so much more Why don't we get into some of that right now? How about a little bit of that new news? New news Hey, oh new news is brought to you by Nike and this is why Joining us today for a special edition of new news is the Guard from Iowa. She's the all-time leading scorer in NCAA history the first overall pick in the 2000 to 24 WMBA draft She's a two-time WMBA also a 2024 WMBA rookie of the year The 2024 time magazine after the year and she is the first and now last guest of new heights in the 2025 season 92%ters. Please welcome back to Katelyn Clair She's back. I'm honored. You guys brought me back on. I must have not been too bad the first time I guess You already know. It's always a pleasure. Always a pleasure. Permanent invite permanent Yes, please jump on whenever. Let's talk some Nike. We're honored to be a part of your Nike launch Being a part of the commercial that is how's it feel? How's it feel to finally have it all out there? And I know it was it was a long time coming definitely a long time coming like been in the works for quite some time and Obviously this is kind of launching like a whole year where my shoe eventually will come out Wearing it on the court. This this coming season. So nice. That's probably what I'm most excited for But like just getting the people more excited with the logo and obviously already have some merch out which you're proudly rocking which I appreciate But yeah, no, it's so exciting and a lot of the people that were obviously in the commercial YouTube and Travis Scott was in it my college basketball coach was in it and and just some other People that have kind of like been huge fans throughout my career or you know have been apart since I was either in high school or not professionally So I felt like the ad was like very me So that was super cool. Yeah, it was fun to shoot and you know I'm just really thankful that everybody was a part of it and especially you guys. So you made it fun. You brought the energy Yeah, Jason Jason can't make a jump shot to save his life. He's actually you are out of your mind Time we need to get you guys on the real basketball court. That's what I want to make it fun. You're like out there actually It's funny. You mentioned this because recently I got into a basketball court for the first time in like 20 years I'm on a mission to be able to dunk I've never been able to no he's been doing this mission has been 30 years running We have video footage Brandon. Do we want to play that now? Yeah, we let's see what we got oh gosh This is gonna be hilarious. I'm Jason Kelsey. This is jackass. I'm gonna try and dunk a basketball. I can't jump off of one foot to save my life It went in oh dude you you're not even touching the rim. We got a ways to go. We gotta waste. We gotta waste You have no Okay, that one's not as bad. That one's not as bad. I'm a better two foot jump. I can't jump off of one foot I'm gonna tear my Achilles. You're a fundamental guy. We gotta get you the right fundamentals. You're not Are there techniques to jump higher? I mean, I don't know I think it's technically easier to dunk off jumping off of one foot than two feet I think jumping off two is really drive that's kind of like a high jumper You really drive that other knee up and it helps you like kind of catapult yourself up there But I think I think we're out of He has to do it by two because he's so much. So much. Yeah, you're a you're a powered up. Well, it just hurts my ankles. So bad try to jump off of one leg You're in danger. Do you feel more comfortable that I could maybe dunk in a few weeks or get better at In a few weeks. Oh boy Is that what we're calling that all you need is a few days 30 days 30 days what I'm going for. Oh gosh Trap. Can you still dunk? Are you kidding me? You name I go between the legs right now? I can definitely dunk though. I'll have that in the bag till I'm at least like 50 I think Jason. I told him he had to lose at least 20 pounds and get the technique down perfectly I think you can do it though. I think you need to start with like a tennis ball Then you get the tennis ball. You go to like a folly ball. Then you go to a basketball. Okay. All right work your way up I mean don't ask me. I obviously I'm good. No, I could maybe like grab the rim, but like I'm not anywhere close that I just shoot Threes and that's good. Shoot it from anywhere. How easy is it for somebody to learn how to shoot? Who can't shoot? Just hypothetically speaking not for myself Honestly like I feel like if you're willing to like learn and like that's the problem I feel like with a lot of like young kids and like young basketball players their their form is like so jacked up But like I feel like it's a pretty easy thing to pick up on like from a young age So that's always what I tell like young kids like make sure your form is always good and you like kind of work your way back But that's what I would always say the most important is and like I would get mad at my dad when I was young girl Because he wouldn't let me like just launch threes because like my elbows would be out like this I'd be like throwing it like that because I wasn't strong enough and then it like ruins your form And then you have those habits like going on through the rest of your career. So But I mean to think if you're like willing to learn and like I don't think that I think that would be easier than learning to dunk If you like couldn't jump like you're trying to like you become explosive again I feel like standing there being like this would be a little easier All right fair enough fair enough I kind of shoot I got that Sean Marion going on right now Yeah, he better than but he either Sean Marion's it or he just goes one hand Honestly, he might be better one one is impressive. That's really impressive one hand top of the key He knows he has the backboard if he and if he throws it too long I know what to do with this left hand it just feels awkward to me when it's involved with the best Got a good starter. So that's impressive honestly. It's guys insane. Let's get back to Nike though I gotta I gotta ask some questions because I'm such a huge sneaker fan You said that you're wearing the new kicks Coming up this season. Yeah I honestly for everyone that doesn't know like the process that goes into like making the the sneakers like How long in advance has it been or like when does it all start? Do they come to you with the with the shoot a bunch of shoes You kind of get the tweak him here and there. How is that process? Yeah, I think it's honestly been like probably one of the coolest things I've got to do since Honestly, the process started at the end of my senior year when I was at Iowa because I was deciding what shoe company I was going to go with and I talked to Nike Adidas and under armor and they all offered me a signature shoe obviously some faster than others and You know everybody know knows Nike makes the best product it just kind of takes a little bit longer and so that's and I you know I grew up wanting to be an Ikea athlete every kid does and I be Jordan like that's that's the premier brand and everybody knows that Oh, yeah, because I think like Harry and some of your friends But no, I mean it's probably been been like a year and a half now of like Figuring out what exactly I want and I think probably the most challenging part of it is like you want it to be unique But at the same time like I have to be comfortable wearing it So I think we kind of like you kind of take what you know you're comfortable in like obviously I play in a lot of cobes But I don't at the same time. I don't want it to be a Kobe I wanted to be something very unique to me and a little bit different and I think for myself like you know I think about like what's kind of been important to me when I think about like shoes or sneakers And I think like just the chasability of them and like You want a certain sneaker or like you want a certain color way So I think that's like going to be probably the most fun part like okay great like you have like The mold of the shoe and like what it is and the technology that's in it Um, but more so I think I'm more excited about like making the certain colorways or clobbing with certain brands or whatever it is I know I definitely got that a chiefs color way on the way or Listen, you're just speaking to me now. I'm I'm game. It's so cool because a lot of a lot of like you're doing exactly what like I've always dreamed of Doing in terms because everybody that plays a sport or definitely is a hooper Well like dreams of having a signature shoe like it is the coolest Shed ever, but I um I remember LeBron came out with his first signature shoe and it was like he had this Hummer in high school then the toy is hummer and he kind of like shaped or like made the shoes kind of resemble A hummers like look and model and everything like that like when it comes down to like it being true to you I can't wait to see exactly what this thing looks like and uh and and you already know I'll be I'll be the first one in line to get it. Yeah, that's gonna be cool And it's crazy because LeBron's already LeBron's on shoe 23 now Which is like crazy to think about how long his signature line has lasted. I know it's crazy And I've gotten all 23 of them. You don't see like a lot of signature cleats and football Do you really like it's not really the same like I trapped you were like your own pe's like Jordan pe's right? Yeah, yeah exactly. Yeah, shout out to shout out to Jordan. Um, I think I think those fit my game the best just because I grew up in that like Jordan Arab of like I kind of like that that mid to high top like boot kind of feel, you know, say the ankles protect the ankles Yeah It's actually it's ironic how like a lot of like LeBron's made his his way to The football football field right Jordan's made his way to the football field is kind of like The the basketball players kind of run that that world of like what's on your feet? And it's uh It's always been because of you know how good you guys are on the court. How much goes into the technology? I do I am curious about that because that's one thing that I get frustrated a little bit with yeah Cleats modern cleats sometimes I like man. I wish these things grab better I wish they had a different mold on the bottom of them like did you were you super involved in that process as well? Yeah, for sure and like obviously I'm pretty like picky about what I wear like I like a certain to Kobe model So like I knew Whatever I was going to put in my own show it need to be like the equivalent of that technology or even better And it's going to be even better. I'm not going to say exactly what it is It'll get people excited about and I think even like the Chinese market like I was talking to some people at Nike like over in China Like they'll cut open the inside of the Kobe's and like Like show people the technology that's on the inside of the shoe because they're like that means a lot to them Like they want to know what they're getting out of the product right wow So I thought that's like really fascinating. I'm not that open. That's crazy Maybe well I've seen some videos where they're like cut them in half and you know You can like look at like a complete cross-section of the whole thing So there's like a couple of Kobe's that they have only the technology and like the heel of your foot and not the forefoot of your foot And I can like tell a huge difference when I play in those like it feels like I'm running on hardwood So like I've really struggled to wear those but if other people they obviously love them But for me, it's like I know I need that technology everywhere So that's honestly been a huge part of you know the Process and the creation of the shoe is like it being comfortable and exactly kind of what I need and the technology that we're going to put into it Is in anything that they've ever put into a basketball shoe before so I'm really excited about that. That's exciting It really is amazing how much One shoe works for one person, but it doesn't work for a nut like yeah Nike switched the bottom of their cleat Maybe what 2018 track. When did they start going to that new mold um Yeah, gosh, you put me on the spot. They're all tying together right now 2019 2018 whatever anyways, they went to like a new mold and my man It's just something that feels a bit off and I like went and had my foot like 3d analyze I was gonna say like do you they scan your guys' feet feet for the cleats or how's that work? So they have that technology available and I went to that I'd never used it and then said actually your foot is geared more towards this like 2015 cleat that they kind of stop making and I went back to that was like my foot They didn't dig some up in the storage unit thing they were searching they were searching equipment rooms like this I was wearing this clear, but they're like 24 So and then see I'd have to take him to a cobbler in South Philly who would have to re-glue it because the glue was starting to ride out on these things Oh Jason went full on custom like He's still got those things in the garage if the egos need a need to need one game out of them What did you guys collect the most though? I know like drive you collected a lot of shoes grind out like what were you like? What did you like the most or like what was something you kind of always wanted to get? Or what's your favorite pair of shoes you've ever owned? I was just going to get into I didn't want to get into too much about Your shoe because you know it's still the excitement of everyone You know me the drop in everything but my my favorite shoe ever was the marty McFly when they came out with the The self-tying and and and just The whole boot and finally bringing that to life knowing that it was in the future back in the 80s and like they actually made that mold I was it was like my first seriously. It's like my first purchase when I got a check I was like went online like marty McFly is Nike size 13 because they didn't make a size 14. I'm just like where are they? And I grabbed me but and I still got him still got him the thing still light up on me and everything I want some people might call shoe ignorant. I I don't know anything about shoes You just want whatever you get for free. I like that. That's what it was I wore sandals and then my mom got me the only time I ever cared about what I wore She got me two pairs of sketchers and I wore these things in the high school and never again If I ever worn a pair of sketchers And then I immediately went out and bought some Timberland boots because everybody was saying those Rock and Tim's ever said rock and the Tim's that's great. That's hilarious From sketchers to Tim's that's quite I got to fix this public image right now. It's not good. My original like love for kicks came in the Jordan era I remember wearing the the 14s are yeah the Jordan 14s in like middle school travel league basketball And then when Bronn came out with with everything being a Cleveland kid And seeing them actually playing high school is crazy. You guys saw him live like how often I got lucky one a one of our good friends Andrew Brant and his his mom had an extra ticket no way I went down there and saw the patch like Oh, he was to the roof. It was like it was like a whole like parade event outside They had to like cut off the like streets around it. It was insane. It was awesome though Yeah, he threw it off the backboard and threw it down and the whole stadium or whole arena felt like it was about the rock I never saw him play live But he was on all the time like even when he he had a few of the games ever broadcast nationally when he was in high school But even the other ones were on local TV and it was like an entire event when he was in high school Like everybody be talking about the next day. Do you see what LeBron did last night? And it was just It was a crazy time in Cleveland for sure. I got one more Bronn story. So in high school He uh, this is when I was in high school. He was going through his first couple of years in the leagues and uh, it's his Bron 2's came out and Bron 2's were Iconic shoe. I still have so many pairs of them But at that point I wanted to get like a pair that nobody had and in my mind I didn't really know the like sneaker Market or like how things worked or anything like that So I thought I was going to go out and get a pair that nobody had and literally like there was only like Two colorways that LeBron had officially came out with at that point And I went online and I'm searching all the web for like a LeBron 2 and I found this black and silver pair of LeBron 2's Were they fake begged my mother to get informing for Christmas walked into the high time with them And one of my Harry's older brother will actually came out to me. He's like, try Let me see those things. He looked at him out Somebody from across the course room. Hey, Will you think those are real and Will and they're like Real fake Smoke never warm again mom asked me oh did everyone love your shoes? I'm like, yeah I loved him so much The funniest part was I ordered a 14 and they were like a size 11 I was like the whole time my feet were like it was the words That's hilarious. That's a great story The worst is so good. Should we talk back on the basketball court? Yeah, let's get into it. So back on the court, team USA practice, how you feeling? It was fun obviously to get back out there in the middle of a minute So like it was just obviously a long and like tough year of Reoccurring injuries and like you guys know how that goes like when you get one nagging thing It kind of leads to another so it wasn't obviously how I envisioned it and It's dumb but like we still kind of found a way like our team like we had like six of our players go down with injuries It was unreal and we still had a great year made it to the semifinals and yeah We were like a game away from the finals and so that was pretty impressive considering kind of what we went through But it was a long process to like just get back on the court because we have like the groins and the you know Quads and whatever you're dealing with it's like you don't run for a while so like it's like it's weird like learning to run again In a way On top of that like going to like play versus the best players again and like just getting tossed out back into the fire But it was fun like I mean, I probably wouldn't have wanted any other way Like you get thrown back out there with the best players in the world And you see like you're right where you were before you got heard and it was like three days So it was it was cool and it was at Duke which is obviously One of the most historic basketball places ever So that was a pretty cool thing too and kind of kicks off like the next cycle for like preparing for the Olympics And then we have the World Cup in 2026 So at the end of September So we'll actually like pause the WMBA season very similar like how we do when we have the Olympics Right before the playoffs and then we'll go play the World Cup Which technically the World Cup in the past has almost been harder for us to win Because there's more teams that play in the World Cup than qualify for the Olympics Yeah, so sometimes it's harder to win that So hopefully I'm on the team for that and obviously my goal is to be on the only Olympic team in 2028 So it feels like it's far away but it's probably actually way closer than it sounds It'll be here as soon as you know it, I'm sure Yeah, maybe driving well you both can you could play flag football in 2028 Hey You already know I'll I can snap if they need a snapper I won't gladly snap the ball and do nothing Yeah, I can snap too So I'll be running for that job Do you guys think any NFL players will actually like want to play or like try to play or I think there's going to be a bunch that are going to want to A few of the receivers and DBs that have good like hand-dying ball skills I think those guys have a good run at it I don't know if the quarterbacks will entertain it It's a different game at quarterback Yeah, that's what I was about to say It does there's definitely crossover but it is a different sport and I don't know I think there's going to be a lot of guys that want to do it And I think the NFL is going to embrace guys trying to play in it Because it's only good for the league to see their players on a national scale like that We don't ever get the opportunity But it is a different sport I think it'll be similar to the three on three You know like like how Who I think Jim was was probably the biggest name with three on three And he just retired, it was his last Olympics, yeah Yeah, shot off the Gerberman electric Like his game is perfect for that like fast like can shoot it like just quick But yeah, like he said like completely different three on three basketball It's obviously only played in the half-court in There's no stopping you literally play to I think a score or time Which is just way different than five on five We see you in this uh in this picture with camera bring rocking number 17 I know Where the one seven come was that just a jersey that you get But I was about to say they for these these practices The best number ever I wouldn't have picked that but So the players that like have been on the national team prior get to Continuing their jersey like that practice number jersey or their jersey obviously until like they're done playing on the Olympic team Or whatever happens for the next Olympics And then all us newcomers there's a lot of young people at that camp We just get assigned a random number I guess I got 17 nobody asked him but it was fine All right, so are you just stuck in 17 now in perpetuity though? Do you get to change it maybe in the future? So if I eventually make the team It's weird like because international and international basketball that you only I think it's four through 15 Those are the only numbers so you have a four five six seven eight nine ten Isn't that weird like you don't be the pin for you? Yeah, well at least for the United States Yeah, I did not know that so it's kind of cool because when I've played junior national teams in the past We have like a like a bag tag like a sticker on your backpack and it says like All the players that have worn your jersey. So it'd be like if your number six would be like Lebron I think he was six or like yeah And then you'd have the women's players and obviously all the men's players which is really cool You get to see who kind of has worn Horned your jersey. So this is not an honor of Phillip Rivers. That's not but How about that? Is that not a thing? A lecture a lecture You got to give him a lot of credit and he was pretty good. He's don't touchdowns I was worried he's like gonna pop in a kill ease or I don't got to worry about old Phillip Rivers man. That guy's tough as nails It was crazy. I mean like when I first obviously when I first saw that online I was like oh that's like gotta be fake news like because there's so much fake news out there these days There was definitely a AI clip in my mind or I was just like no way. He's really about this Somebody's being funny and then it was They were winning when he walked off the field. Yeah, they made the kick the long field goal I turned the game off actually because I was watching the game. I was like oh that's great Like he won like cool. What do you know? I like check the box score on the ESPN app And I'm like oh my god. That's a heartbreaker. That's so sad. Sammy Donnell had other had other plans. Yeah Yes, he's had a great year too. He's been really good. Happy as hell for that guy, man Got this Seattle team. We played him and we played him in the preseason I was just like there's something about this team. They got this like I should you could just feel the energy and the juice and how much they loved playing the game Yeah, they got some dogs and I was just like man There's something about this team and then Jackson and Jangba just Came to like I like like started looking like the most unstoppable receiver in the league Mm-hmm. So what are you guys? This is obviously a chiefs from out in the playoffs, which is okay We've had a great time. It's not okay. It's not okay But at this point it is what it is Jason. You can't say the eagle. So what are you guys takes on the playoffs picture? What do you think's gonna happen? I really liked the Rams until last night. It was a I mean the First half was kind of the first weakness that we kind of saw from them. Yeah to their credit They did bounce back and almost end up winning at their at the end But the Rams feel like they have the least questions of everybody that's in the playoffs Yeah, everything kind of has an answer. They're great on the offense They're great on the defensive line. They run the ball well. They stop the run their quarterback is Approving already won a Super Bowl and been around for a long time. So it's like that's kind of the team. I think Probably is the safest one. Oh, I got Matt Stafford is literally like my last pick and my fantasy draft, which was a steal It's way nobody knew he had a plan because I remember he had the back stuff. Yeah, yeah, but Trave got me a lot of points this season. So I didn't get last. I was my only goal. I was That didn't get last He didn't smoke the past couple of years ago As long as I don't have to do the punishment. I'm fine. Oh, I tell you. Do you have a favor? Who do you think is gonna win the Super Bowl? I mean, I'm not cheering for anybody. I'm obviously like I'm a Drake my fan I think he's been incredible and like I think the Patriots are I mean What is it then? If C is looks I mean like they're all so good the Niners are really good But they're I mean they're the most injured team, but they just still find a way to win which is pretty crazy Very impressive. I mean, I probably be like pulling for the Patriots, but I mean, I think the Rams are really good too Sand Arnold seems like a good guy. So I could roof for him too, but I mean you could I could roof for all of them You already know I can I can I can I can roof for all of them Especially yeah, we got we got some good guys, but the viewership's not gonna be the same without the chief So how do you think the Eagles will do Jason? I think they'll do better than people expect I mean, I know that The offense struggled in the second half last weekend. It's struggled at times this season, but their defense is so good And whoever they get in this first round They're probably going to get a team that's eat whether it's The Rams who have said they're going to play their starters or San Francisco I think is the other team that will probably be it. There's a chance to give you the two-seed and play green Bay Um, they're going to get a team traveling from the West Coast all the way to the East Coast And the Eagles are probably going to rest so I kind of feel good about round one I feel like they're so talented that yeah, they have a chance to beat anybody especially They got so much so much power on offense. It's just waiting to explode man And they've won before so they know how to do it proven speaking of quarterbacks at like So much of it is like who can handle the moment really well and he's been he's proven that he can do it He shows the boys there's some guys that we're just kind of waiting to see I'm too intrigued to let this go you said something about your fantasy leagues punishment. What is it this year? Okay, it was like You had options You can do like a 17-hour bus ride no phone You could do Yeah, like you just have to sit there like I don't know. I think you literally have to like just sit there like But you had to take your phone because you had to livestream the whole thing on Instagram so everybody could watch To make sure you weren't doing anything That's kind of yeah, you can get some entertainment out of the live stream itself And then the other option was like stand-up comedy and the i-hop like 20 like the i-hop pancake challenge Where you have to like eat a certain amount of pancakes? Yeah, so you had to do both of those And then there was like one where you could like pay out a bunch of money And you're like, I'm not doing any of it, but I'm paying a bunch of money and you can we can be done with it But I think the person that lost is gonna have to do the bus ride so You got to make sure you know about that live stream Yeah Well, do you want to play a game that we have where you pick an NFL team? It's kind of randomized. Yeah, we did this with a what you said. I don't really know what it's called. What's this called? NFL Perry. I don't know. I think it's weird. It's very I don't know. We did it with Paul road. We both did it Yeah, let's give it a go. Basically you accumulate points by just picking the best fantasy year of You have to go ahead Jason you might be able to You're trying to pick the best season of a player from whatever team shows up and it's from when fantasy football started. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. How long is fantasy football around? I think like the 90s. It seems like like late 90s early 2000s is when they're dating this back because there's a lot of players that we were hoping for That they did have a bit smith, but it was not from like Primem it smithy. Yeah. So there you go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you have like positions And you only get to get you only get to pick one like so if you have a tight end Let's say and the and you pick like the chiefs for that position like that's you don't get to pick another tight end Innocent. Yes, but you get two flexes. So technically you can't. I'm gonna stop confusing you. I think the game explains itself Houston Texans. Oh jeez You also get one pass. If you want a phone a friend too. Yeah, you guys might have to help me out with this Let's build it together. I'm trying to think so I'm thinking receiver Travel. Who do you think Houston Texans maybe Andre Johnson area and fosters a running back that was that might have had a bunch of touchdowns Touchdowns are king touchdowns are king your flex you can have a running back wide receiver or a tight end So it's kind of it's kind of like you want to I don't know what kind of one is I feel like you want to save the flex positions a little bit because Used to there being a defense on your fantasy team, which I This one's usually a good defense. Yeah, this year. I should I think they're like one of the statistically like one of the best defenses since the year 2009 Like they're very good. Okay, you guys pick on this one. I need to do your jobs on your jobs and on your jobs and Oh Buffalo bills. Yeah, your big bills fan. Yeah, that right You can also go to Josh Allen for quarterback. I mean he's a fan. He's a very good fan. Okay, let's put Josh Allen at quarterback Because if I do get the chiefs, obviously I'm gonna put trap and gang San Francisco There's been a lot of good 49ers players haven't there. There hasn't ever happened, but But you gotta think of Christian McCaffrey at running back McCaffrey do you already know I was gonna say he racks up points Yes, he does Raiders see that's the thing. Is it going Oakland too or is it just the Vegas this goes to Oakland for sure you guys got this one The Raiders Trapped to me considering me we've played him twice in a very rough rough go around for the Raiders and technically, so you got run it back You'd be Marshawn Lynch was probably the best one. I don't know. He was better in Seattle. Yeah, I don't know if his numbers are Um, the Raiders, yes, yes, uh, why can't I think of his name? It's gonna be a tough one if you can't think of his name. I know Brock power is that a hell I was gonna say Brock power is he had a game where he had like 50 fantasy points But I don't know how he's done the rest of the year. Yeah, almost two hundred yards and three touchdowns in that game I don't know if that's gonna be a That's probably not even worth. Yeah, yeah, last year he had a lot of We need somebody to have a solid year. Should we pass should we pass? It's not a bad pass You get one pass. Who is the receiver on the when they won with Rich Ganon? Who is the receiver Tim Brown? Tim. Yes But I don't know if Tim Brown Let's pass. Let's pass. Yeah, I don't know when. Yeah Well, we're not picking tight end. We're not picking tight end. Oh, you also You also got a game. You also got to think you're probably going to get more out of Tyree Hill in this situation Well, you might not put him on there. Put him on there. Come on. I just want to see what it is. I know me too Look at that almost almost the same as Andre Johnson had to get more touchdowns All right, commanders commanders. Oh geez, and we're looking for receivers Or running backs or tight ends. I guess you can put a flex Also, football team also football team I mean McClore and had a good year last year. Clinton Portis. Who else? Clinton Portis That's a very good pole. You guys are pulling some people at first Portis legend. He's a character. Okay, you guys pick this one Jason. You got anybody else. I think you're right I think Portis and the flex is probably the right pick Oh, that one's tough. Not great. Not great though. Not in the 300s. Yeah, it's tough. It's not good. I think he goes through I mean you pick your poison here. You got a bunch. Yeah, Jason. This is all you. You should be able to get us the most amount of points Who scored the most touchdowns like that's really what it comes down to be shady, right? Well shady is definitely a great choice Tarelloans is I don't know what his touchdowns were Dishon I got Philly and I took her a church was a good quarterback for this game. Yeah I mean running backs. I feel like get you the most points because they get the most touchdowns do stately Brian Westbrook. I think it's I think shady. I think shady is a good choice Assam McCoy. Let's see. See if he gets it. Who got Tarell. Oh Tarell with wide receiver. Let's get receiver out. Let's go Tarelloans All right, then we keep flex a lot. Oh my god. Oh, no, no, no. Chargers. Chargers. Who's Antonio Gates? Uh, no, LT. LT. That's the easy one. Yeah, that'll be my this might this might this might this is gonna be huge Is it beat the high score? Is that a good score? Oh, it is a very solid score. Very solid score. What is the high score? Brandon He plays this game all day though. He knows exactly Brandon where do we go wrong Brandon? Where did we go wrong? Technically Jake I think has got me beat by a little bit I think the picks you might want to rethink would have been Andre Johnson you could have gone Aryan Foster Tarell Owens. You should have gone sake one. Uh, yeah, but and then say cool washing. It's a government outflex and you would say one wouldn't have got his Lexus screw down. Say, one wouldn't have got as many points as LT though. No. No. So yeah, so it's kind of a make your point. Yeah, the tough one is when you get Washington. I'm just gonna be honest. That's Washington. The Raiders. I think Tarell McClaren might have a little higher than Clint and Portis. Yeah, that was another name we threw out. Dang. All right, the Kelsey picks actually really good. Is this just online? I'm going to make people. Yeah, yeah, NFL Perry.com. Sorry, everyone. Yeah, there's multiple apps. They're a basketball version of this. I think so. There's got to be kind of fun guy who made this game. I knew you watched the show. Make a basketball one. Jason, do you want to open that gift? Jason, you want to open the gift? Can I open the box you sent us on Christmas? Yes. I was told I was supposed to open this on Christmas, but I screwed that up. So I figured let's open this right now live on air. Oh, yeah. I'm sure I've had your girls open it for you. Girls. Are they getting into any sports yet or anything? So they've done soccer, gymnastics is the one they like the most right now. Soccer is like always the first sport that kids play. Like just go send them out there and like run around. I feel like early on. I'm trying to be like coordination, right? Dance, gymnastics, run around kickable. We got like one of the one of those what are like the little pop shots we've done that. Oh nice. That's cute. Have they gotten their first field hockey stick yet? Is the question. Oh, field hockey, isn't that huge in Philly, isn't it? Yeah, Kylie is a huge. I actually had a really good field hockey program. Yeah, which is like shocking, but like, yeah, huge. Like we're always ranked like top five in the country. So I'm gonna know who field hockey games in my day. There we go. Let's go. Let's go. All this guy does is go to the beach. There you go. I know. Time out. Friendship bracelet. Yeah. Let's go. This guy's never been this height for president of his life. Yeah, they got the hoop in there. There we go. Oh, let's go. You can just put that a 10 feet work on dunking on that. This is right up my alley too. There we go. Talk about one hand shots. So we're gonna put it right in the dog break. Oh, brick. Come on. It's up brick. Boo. Over the shoulder. Top of the key. This is one of the one hand matters more because you don't shoot a popper shower to hand. Benny, you want to take a shot? It's a gift from our friend Caitlin. Come on. Take a shot. Come on, Benny. Oh, she's running. Quiet. He's got reinforcement. We need somebody to come down to shoot a basketball. We need it. It's a must. Oh, my gosh. You are wearing the perfect guitar. Come down here. All right. No. Oh, yeah. Let's see it. Let's see it. Show off your form. Let's see it. Why? Oh, we got their muscles going. Oh, that's right. Like my daddy one hand. Go. She's like firing at it. Oh, come on. Oh, you got it. You got it, girl. Did you make it? I think it rimmed out. Oh, that was awesome. That was a close one. The ball on baseball, Chuck. You're doing great. You're killing it. Let's go. There we go. Nice job. That was awesome. That was nice. You're the best. Why? Adorable. She's got a future, Jason. So we'll just cut that up to where we only see that last shot. And that's how that's how the magic works. This is what we're going to be doing the rest of the night. So that's cute. The full dress. The just the rocket of an arm. No, she's got it. I can see it. She's got talent. Kind of can throw a ball. We were on the beach. She might have a better on than I do. It is crazy. Those rotator cuffs. Yeah. Well, thank you very much, Caitlin. Do you have a good Christmas? I did. I was in Florida with my family. So we're just down there chilling hanging out. So it was nice to get getting some warm weather and taking a little time off after the USA basketball stuff I had. And now I'll just pick back up and get ready for the season. I guess it's going to be here in a couple of months. So and you guys were welcome to a game anytime. Come on now. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely rocking the CC ones on the heart. That's right. I got to get the CC one so I can dunk. That's what. That's my new technology. Just bringing up their season. Perfect. Let's go. Well, we appreciate you jumping on with us. Can't wait to see the CC ones. And everybody go check it out on Nike right now, wishing you the best of luck. Thanks for having me. Dude, Caitlin is so awesome. She gets it best. And I can't wait for the CC one, baby. Let's go. Come on now. I'm going to need them. I got to be able to dunk on them. I'm going to be able to do it without. All right. That wraps up new news brought to you by Nike. Thank you to our presenting sponsor Nike. In this episode, you got to hear our conversation with the legendary Caitlin Clark and our experience being in her Christmas campaign for Nike from anywhere. It was a great experience and a great message. Caitlin's beginnings may have been humble, but her dreams never were. She turned driveway buckets into record breaking shots, filling field house bleachers, then selling out stadiums. That's right. Caitlin proves the dreams are never out of range. Man, she's such an inspiration to all the people out there. And I really resonate with her mentality about getting 1% better every single day. Shout out to Nike and shout out to Caitlin for being such good friends of the show and having us be a part of the from anywhere campaign. 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The Panthers are dropping a new look that mixes those old school Florida hockey vibes with the nods to their history. Love it. Yeah, the Rangers are rolling out the special Centennial Jersey inspired by the early days of the franchise. It's going to look different. Feel a little different. And it's one you don't want to miss. Watch the Discover in HL Winter Classic January 2nd at 7 p.m. Eastern on TNT, True TV and HBO Max. Hockey being played outdoors is just something special, dude. If I could go, I'd be there. Check it out. I tried. Now that you've seen the video evidence of me jumping and attempting to dunk, what do you think of the chance? You're further away than I thought you are, dude. I'm not going to live. But I will say this, I will say this, you were jumping like you've never jumped before in your life. Not like, I'm like, no, you look like a baby deer jumping. Like, we need to get you, we need to get, that's what I'm saying. You're very recording. We need to get you into like the, the good gather step into the power jump with two. Right now, you don't have the, like, right mechanics. The athleticism is so bad. It just went so quick. You're naturally quick. When you found out the fundamentals for the Cone Drill, you set the record in the combine. So it's like, we just need you to get, you have the power. You're up there. We have the slow-mo replay to help us see that you're up there. We just got to get you to time it up right and get the fundamentals right. So we did do the vertek. Here's what's crazy. You know the vertek where you like, stand and jump and touch the things. So from standing, like, not moving and jumping, I'm over, I'm over 10 foot. Just standing. Yeah, dude. That's fine. You need to get a basketball into hoop. I'd probably say you need to get to like 10, 10, 10, 6, 10, 6 makes sense. But I think you need to get a little higher. Here's what's crazy though. Just standing and jumping. I'm over 10 foot running and jumping and doing the same tests. I only got like an inch and a half higher. I should be able to gain more height by running and jumping. You would think, but I think it's all dependent upon your body, like, type in your athleticism. Right now, you're just an athlete. You're a powerful athlete. That's what I'm saying. If I get more efficient at it, I should be able to get that higher, right? I would say you're going to produce more momentum, which will then get you higher. Yes. But I think for a guy like you, you really only need two to three steps into a good, powerful base. I'll put together a tutorial and I'll get back to you and I'll help you with some of the gather steps into the power. There's an Instagram clip that talks about the penultimate step, which I think is what you're talking about where they do this gather. That's why I wanted to ask Caitlin about the penultimate step and just see what's the thing. That would have been the best. She would have laughed. I'm going deep into this. I don't know. She's a pro. She might, she might have known. I've been looking up Jordan drills. Did you ever do Jordan drills? You're barking up the wrong tree. You're going down the wrong road. You need to follow too much. You need to follow the fat boy role. All right. You're not Jordan. You don't have a ounce of Jordan in you other than the heart, the courage and the dog. Where do I get the CC ones at? That's a question for Caitlin. I don't know. They're coming out. Sir, anyway, I can get a prototype size 14 in the next 30 days. Let's think about this. Who jumps higher? Michael Jordan or Caitlin Clark? When the Caitlin Clarks, do you want the Michael Jordan's? Honestly, I want the Caitlin Clarks. Let's get into this week 17, the NFL season. How's that sound, Travis? That's right. Both topics brought to you by Xfinity, the most reliable fiber powered Wi-Fi. You played on Christmas Day. I did. And Christmas games are always as magical as they sound, man. It looked magical. Arrowhead was rocking. The stadium was packed. Broncos fans were there. Chiefs fans were there. Everyone was having a marial time. Obviously, we didn't come out with the win, but man, was it? It was a fun night. I'm proud of the the game that that we had and read out there trying to figure it out and come away with the victory. Obviously, down a lot of big, big names, but led into the game. But my guy, Chris Oledukin, man. We were playing some golf earlier this off season. I was looking forward to seeing him slaying a little bit. That's right. Yeah. Chris, he's an awesome guy. He's been on the team for a while now and finally getting his opportunity to get some NFL experience, man. And it's just fun. You know what it's like. And honestly, I haven't had this feeling of seeing a young guy at quarterback living out his dream, just excited to be in the moment. Like, we would come off the field and you could just see, man, this guy was loving every single moment, even through the good or the bad. And it was just awesome to get out there and rock with a man and I was just proud of the way he handled the situation, handled the moment. Obviously, no turnovers and just gave us a chance to win at the end. He did. He did. I want to ask you this because a lot of times, like when you're on to the third string quarterback, usually a guy that hasn't had a lot of reps with the ones. How many, I mean, he's been there for a while, but how many times have you caught a ball from Chris? I'm a guy. I'm a busy body of practice. I like to get some work in. So during defensive periods, things like that, I'm usually around all the quarterback. So it wasn't the first time I'd ever caught a pass from him here or there. Like, I've at least seen it come out of his hands and, you know, throughout the week have worked with him enough to where it wasn't surprising seeing the ball come out of his hands. Nice. Nice. He throws a good ball. And on top of that, man, he's a gamer. He's going to go out there and he's going to have some fun. I call it the crystal experience, baby. The oliduke and experience, you know, know what's going to happen. He's got that exciting playmaking ability because he's got he's he's a mobile quarterback and he can get out of the pocket. He keeps his eyes downfield when he doesn't. He showcased a little bit of that this this past Christmas. oliduke and I'm playing with Travis. I mean, yeah, he's the greatest side end of all time. I'd be a fool not to lean on him a little bit and he was just great the whole game. Wish I could have been there for him a little bit more, but he still played his ass off a little more. It was like the entire two minute drive was throw the ball to the big getty. Yeah. And I think the chiefs, you know, for getting a little Travis can't go in for me there. I think coach Reed heard what the people wanted. And, man, if you guys could have done that, you know, the first like 12 years of my career, that's awesome. No, I'm kidding. Coach Reed's always dialing me up and it's just whether or not the defense is is the right defense for me to get the ball, but it was it was fun that that Chris was, you know, trying to find me knowing there was a fun little two minute drive till we did until we came up short. One more game left in this season and you're headed to Vegas. What is how we feel on heading into this one? It's Vegas, man. It's Raiders. Raiders week, man. It's always no matter what the score is obviously two teams where we know our season ends after this Sunday and you're just playing for the love of the game and the honor of wearing the the chiefs helmet and a fierce rivalry, man. And I know we've already beat him once. We gave him a goose egg and they're going to be ready for this one. They're going to be excited for this one. And I know Pete Carroll is going to have those guys fired up and ready to rock a roll knowing how motivating he is. And they're at home where they're comfortable and and yeah, I'm excited to go out to Vegas and it finishes year off. Yeah. Well, you guys will be playing them without Max Crosby who has unfortunately been placed on IR which with what appears to be a devastating injury. I don't know if you saw this Instagram video of him really going through it, but we can play that right now. It's a shame. You know, he's just so hampered. You hate seeing it. Oh, that boy's a baller. That boy's a baller. Oh, terrible defense. Yeah, we got to get into stance. We got to get into stance on that. Oh, good effort though. Get energy. Look at him. Dude, I've seen a bunch of clips of Max ball and Max can play. I think what's more clear here is that Max probably is not hampered with much of an injury and that the rage is probably tanking. Mission good guy, man. He just loves. He loves to play the game at basketball, man. That's fair. I shouldn't lead to such conclusions. It's unfortunate. Him and Brock Bowers both on IR, Brock unbelievable player. I know he's got to get some stuff fixed and I know Max has got to get some stuff fixed, but two fierce competitors. I guarantee you'll be back out there next year rocking the roll. Trap, congrats on another Pro Bowl selection way to go. Big Yeti. What number is this for you? 10 maybe. You hit a decade. You've been in the Pro Bowl for a decade. Jesus Travis. Well, you led fan voting for the second year in a row. I think that's what got me in. It does count for a large chunk. I used to think that too, but I think I've seen somebody win the fan vote and not get in before. I think I saw that one time. And it's Creed help free Chris Jones and Trace Smith are also in. Oh, this is also your 11th Pro Bowl. So you've actually been in so many times you've forgotten how many times you get there. You've played in what one Pro Bowl. I think I was added to in Hawaii. I played it too. I played in 122 Orlando. We played against each other one. We did. We did. Was that the following year? Yeah, it was the first year it was in Orlando. It was 20. It was 2016. That's what year it was. Yep. And you were in Hawaii. What 2014 or 15? It was 15. So the year of 14 season of 14 15 in Hawaii. And then the season of 16 or 15. That's what it was in Orlando and 16 because I went when the Pro Bowl was in Arizona. Then I went back to Hawaii. Why for you? You went. We both went out there together. I personally thought I got snubbed for that Arizona Pro Bowl, but it's whatever. I got snubbed. I got snubbed the year before. There were a few guys that got snubbed last year that I got snuck in there. It happens every year. I'm the year that we played against each other in Orlando. I had one of the worst years of my career. When they said you're an alternate for the Pro Bowl and they said, hey, the other two guys are out. You're in the Pro Bowl. I was like, this is fucking crazy. I do not deserve to be here at all. I'll be there. I won the Pro Bowl MVP. Got the car with a whopping 33 yards and one touchdown and two first downs. Wow. Had a fake feel goal that got me three yards on a first down. Got a deep cross thrown to me by Andy Dalton, the red rocket. Andy. And that was it. Congratulations on making the Pro Bowl Trev. You want to move on to some other NFL news? Yeah, let's move on to Eagles Bills. What a showstopper. It actually wasn't entertaining game. It was a lot of shit going on. Crazy second. Jalen Hertz, Josh Allen, got to see primetime football, fucking love it. And it was only Eagles 13 Bills 12. And it came down to the last two minute or yeah, last, last minute drive with Josh Allen and two point conversion. I mean, it's a great win. The Eagles beat the Bills who are a lot of people saying the number one favorite out of the AFC. A lot of people think that it's Josh Allen's year. So for the Eagles to go into Buffalo and win this game just shows, you know, how good the Eagles are. Do you know, tough it is to beat the best team in the AFC. Some people are saying, some people are saying, Joe, hard is to beat that team. Well, you don't get a single pass completion in the second half. Joe, hard that is. That's how good the Eagles are. That's how good we are. Philadelphia, they went over in the second half. It's actually a second time we've won a game this year without completing a pass in the second half, which is remarkable. What? That's how good we are, bro. So this offense is too fucking good. Dude, that is insane. It is, it's kind of crazy. I was watching the game. I didn't even notice that. It's just like three and out. And then before you know it, you've had like, I think they only had like 17 plays in the entire second half. So yeah, not good, not good. And most of it, listen, I think, I thought James would actually play pretty good. So that's that kind of you would think would be quarterback. You haven't. And they were rainy game. We're running the football had the lead. But the run game, I mean, it was like, it was bad, bad. And especially in the second half and not just like these like two to three yard rounds, but like negative runs where you're in second and 12, you're in second and 13. And I just, you know, it was a very frustrating game to watch offensively to say the least. Buffalo's got some guys with some motors on that D line, man. They can be disruptive, man. Tall guys, long arms. The Eagles have been trending better in running the ball, right? They did they did well against the Raiders. They did well against commanders. This was the chance to do it against a team that is going to be in the playoffs. And it was a little frustrating seeing the performance to be honest with you. And credit to the bills. I thought they did some things. They kept putting the safety down and then they blitzed from the other side and it messed them up a number of times. They were slant in the front. And that was throwing them off. It's just, you know, these are things that you would hope they'd be able to handle this time of the year. And it was a frustrating game to see them have opportunities to have plays, right? Like you get a you're running outside zone away from a nickel pressure. That is a chance to be a gash if you block it upright. But because they're not on the same page, because the safety shown he's down over here, the tight end tackler going to the safety, the backside knows the nickel pressure is coming their box. Nobody's blocking the middle line back. Yeah. Like I'm like, what are we doing guys? And it's communication like that. Guys are being let run free. Like was there a, did we zone this off? Why is nobody blocking the the three technique? Why is it's just it was a, it was not a great performance collectively up front to be honest with you. And that was it's frustrating as a former offensive lineman a guy in that room and like knows how good all those players are where it's like, dude, we got to be better than this boys. Listen, good teams find a way to win those games when they're not at their best. And that's what Philly did, man. What the positive is we held Josh Allen the best rushing attack. Like we weren't great against Chicago, right? Chicago ran all over us. We go out there against James Cook and Buffalo's had a great ground game all season. Oh yeah. And we perform really well. Yeah. Have a great go line stand. Fort down. Keep Josh Allen out of the end zone. Great tackle by Zach Bond. Block field goal. Like the defense played out of their mind. And that's the positive coming out of this thing. I'll tell you what going into that last drive though, man, it just looked like prime Josh, Josh Allen, man guys showed some resilience, showed some fight, showed some heart knowing that he's he's got the foot issue right now. And er, they looked like he got rolled up pretty good in there and just fighting through everything. And I know he's taking himself. You can see him kicking himself after that two point conversion. But I've been there and you already know he's going to learn from it and keep it moving. What do you think of the two point conversion call? We were talking about this on Monday night countdown. What do you think of my German choice? What do you got fucking Josh Allen? Are you kidding me? Every time. Every time. Not even think about it. The Eagles had like two first downs the second half. You don't feel comfortable going into overtime. I feel so comfortable with a guy like Josh Allen in the ball in his hands and two yards to get. They'd already had a goal line stand in the exact same two yards. That's why I might be the worst side coach of all time. It's just I'm dude. I'm like I'm putting it in. What are you kidding me? What are we that could end it here? No, I got ball players. I'm kind of just messing around. Honestly, if he's a mobile quarterback, I'm feeling even more confident because there's the threat. If you drop everybody in all that, it's like you can still find a way to to run it in or get out of the pocket and make something shake. So when you make this decision, it's always going to be damned. If you do, damned. If you don't, if it doesn't work out, everybody's going to say it was the wrong call. If you make the play, the play was open like it's there, right? Just miss the throw and you can play devil advocate and say, you know, they just blocked a field goal before that. They just blocked extra point or whatever before that. The one thing that I thought was interesting that we kind of got to on the desk last night was, I think it's actually probably a better call that they went for it too because like at some point, like this everybody's saying this is Josh's year to try and go win this thing, right? My home's is out of it, you know, burrows out of it anytime Josh Allen is playing the game of football. It's his year. That guy is that ability. As with anything, the more reps you get in certain scenarios, usually the better and more comfortable you are operating on in the future. So now, like, obviously, this one didn't work out for Josh. He didn't, he's got gets pressured on his right. He's moving to his left, tries to make the throw and it's a little bit off target in terrible conditions. This is this same scenario might come up in a gotta have a moment in the playoffs and now this entire team has had a rep of this in the maybe they feel even more comfortable now, rep in it again, when it matters most. So that was another reason I thought, hey, you know what, maybe I'm kind of more on board than I thought with McNurmond deciding to go for it. So in the end, I kind of agree with you. Eagles got the commanders at home for the last game of the season and I'm sure the link will be rocking for that one. Could move up to the second seed with the win and the bears losing. Which could happen. They're going to be playing Detroit. The Eagles will probably be resting starters. Like, I don't think that we're going to see a lot of significant players playing in this way. Like we had a game like this and like me, like the coach came in and it was like, we're, we were heavy in the in the first half to where where we had a comfortable lead or like we, and then we we let all the other games kind of play out and see where they were at at half. And so who knows. We did the same thing in 2023 when I was my last year and we decided to go out against New York because we wanted to get some momentum going offensively because we weren't playing great. And we ended up getting AJ Brown hurt to where he couldn't play in the playoff game. Jalen got his finger banged up like it was catastrophic. So I am fully on board with do not risk getting anybody. Anybody you don't want and are not going to be happy about missing for that playoff game. Sit them on the bench. If you don't, unless you have a chance to get the one seed, I don't give a crap who you're playing. Take the rest when you can get it. I believe the Rams have already said that they're going to go in playing to win, right? So they're going to be playing starters. San Francisco and Seattle are going to be playing to try and get the one seed. Got it. That's huge. That's huge. So the Eagles have a chance to rest and then play a team from the West Coast likely who's going to be traveling to the East Coast. And you're going to play them on a week where they just played previously and you've gotten a week arrest. So I think that's a big advantage and I would take that as the Eagles. The reality of it is is that you can't just rest everyone. So guys are going to be out there playing. So you got to be kind of smart with the position that you're putting your guys in. And at the same time, you still want to go out there and win the football game and give yourself a chance at the two. I'm going to be honest too. I think rest of some guys we can still win this game against Washington. I'm not trying to say anything it's football, man. Anything can happen no matter who's out there. Look at San Fran right now. They're fucking rocking and rolling and they've had the worst of kind of injuries. Yeah, that was a crazy game. I was that was my that was my biggest surprise of the year is that San Fran is competing for the NFC title. They've lost for best Fred Warner, Nick Bosa, their started quarterback has been out for eight games. Brock Pretty's missed. They've missed George Kittle for a lot of the season. Trent Williams went down last last week the first play of the game. So like the fact that these dudes are still like 12 wins competing for the NFC title like is nuts. Kyle Shanahan. And you got to give John Lynch some credit to built in a deep roster able to overcome it right there like they don't have Mac Jones. Maybe they aren't sitting where they're at right but they go and get him in the off season. He plays well when Brock goes down. I mean, it's been this is probably the most impressive season I've seen from the 49ers just with all of these things factored in right like it's crazy like they've had a super team and like of course they've been successful with a great coach and great players but this this year the fact that they've still been this consistently good with all of the injuries and you know adversity they've had overcome. Very impressive. A big week 18 games coming up. Broncos Chargers could decide the the one seat that is Denver wins. They clinched the number one seat and Chargers have said they are resting their starters. So I wouldn't just go in there loudly gagging around. I know Harbaugh is going to have them boys fired up. No matter who's out there rolling and trade lands. He's come in and he's shown he's got some spark. Sunday night football Steelers Ravens winner wins the AFC North user eliminated from the playoffs. That is going to be a fun game to watch. Oh, school AFC North wind to get in. Are you getting me? I'm gonna get fired up man reminds me of the Raffles burger and fucking Ray Lewis days man. I'm going to watch the game just because I always get excited to watch the Steelers of Ravens play and I'm going to I grew up in the AFC North. Come on out baby. You already know. But like I don't let's be honest are either of these two teams going to be competing for it at the end of the day this year like it's kind of like the NSC South where I don't the Steelers were looking pretty good before DK got suspended though. They were having a good finish in the season. Darnell Washington's out too man that dude 300 pound tight end running the seams. He's a beast. And Ravens not sure if Lamar Jackson is playing or not. If Derek Henry and you got Patrick Picard leading the way and they're running like they did last week. I mean it that was an impressive performance by those guys. Yeah, but Lamar Jackson's Lamar Jackson if he's playing it's completely different game Saturday bucks Panthers if the Panthers win they're in. Well they've done everything they can to knock it in. They've lost twice to the sands right like it's the the fact that this conference this division is still up for grabs is bonkers. The bucks who I love I mean the bucks are my favorite team coming into the season and they have fallen off a cliff. They've had injuries all season they haven't played great down the stretch here Baker is one of my favorite quarterbacks in the league. It has not been a great second half of the season for the bucks Panthers have had every opportunity the last few weeks to clinch this thing not even playing like top opponents and a lot of this stuff and they just refuse to clinch it. It's nuts it is crazy. So yeah we're going to see bucks and Panthers do get out to see who comes up on the NFC South. I will always root for the bucks. I love Todd Bowles. I love Baker Mayfield. Well the bucks are going to need the Saints to beat the Falcons on Sunday and a win against the Panthers themselves. Yeah. And I'll tell you what they got they got guys to wear if the bucks get in and they get rolling them that's a team you can't take lightly. They've just been banged up and it's and it's kind of hurt them all season long and they haven't been themselves. Offensive line they've had a bunch of injuries they've lost I think every one of their skill position players have been down at some point between Evans Godwin, like Buka Irving like all of them at some point have gotten hurt. So it's been a rough year for those guys and you can see the frustration in some of the press conferences from Todd Bowles and you know hopefully they can they can get in there because I love those guys and either way looking forward to this one. And we got a hell of a showdown on Saturday night. Maybe the flex game is Niners Seahawks the winner of the NFC West actually wins the number one seed in the NFC. So the winner of the Niners Seahawks game is is you know guess to play all their games at home. The Seahawks defense is absurd. I mean there's really three defenses have been the best in the NFL in my mind this year. And it's a Seahawks Houston and I'm going to go to Eagles. I think those three teams have been like their defenses won them so many games. You could throw Denver up there too. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. The Niners offense is rolling. I could see this going either way. I really could. I do kind of lean Seahawks just because of how great their defense is. I don't think the Niners are going to come by points as easily as they have the last couple few weeks. And I think Darn will be able to put up a good showing against this Niners defense. It's been banged up. Seahawks got two Cleveland guys. One Cincinnati Bearcat and Kobe Bryant, kid of me, man, AJ Barnard Titan. Let's go. I'm just kidding. What about what about use check? Kyle use checks to Cleveland guy. Cleveland guy. I'm a Dina guy. Yeah. Harvard guy. George Kittle Titan. I'm just going to watch it for the love of it. You're right. I'm going to just thoroughly enjoy this. The Niners have been there and they've been so great for so long. Although they've had adversity. Oh, I thought you were talking about the Niners. Oh, no, no, sorry. Why would you say the Niners have been there before excited about that? Do you think about the sand Arnold was in a week 18 game to clinch the number one seed last year? And that game followed by the playoff game is essentially why he wasn't brought back in Minnesota, right? That's crazy. And now all of a sudden he's in the exact same scenario, week 18. And he's done the exact same thing to another team in Seattle. Pay that man. Well, I just wanted to I kind of wanted to work out for him. And it's good dude. Is there a lot of scoreboard watching a week 18? There definitely is. Like the Eagles will be watching the game in Chicago most likely, right? Any team that has been conveniently scheduled at the same time with the league office because they know that the seating and placements matter. There will be people watching the scoreboard all game alone for sure. Unless you do what the Panthers did last week and you don't show any games on the scoreboard. Oh wow. Dave Canales. I'm pretty sure we did that as well in a situation where the Patriots were playing the Dolphins and Kevin Harlan, one of the best ever in my opinion, I fucking love that guy. Might be a little biased because he's a Kansas City guy, but also he's legend. And he was calling. He was literally calling both games at the same time on what he's broadcast. He was watching the Dolphins game calling that game. A play would happen in the Kansas City game. He'd call that dude. It was awesome. It's just a beast. Yeah. And then you just randomly heard everyone in the stands start going nuts because the Ryan Fitzmagic and the Miami Dolphins found a way to beat Brady in the Patriots and we got the one seed. I never felt like watching the scoreboard took me out of the current game. Like I was just like, all right, what's the score? Oh, we can if we ate boys, we go really hard for this next quarter and win this game. We're in. I think the reason is because you should be thinking that regardless. I guess I'm maybe I'm just not against scoreboard watching. What's wrong with scoreboard watching? Shout out to Fitzmagic, baby. I got to see him during the Christmas game last week. That was awesome. Which quarterback had the best online Christmas gifts? Caleb Williams gifted his office alignment. Go take a vanity and down Julio. Go take a vanity. What's Boatega Veneta? It's a really, really nice brand. I have a few of their bags. It's awesome. They're awesome. They do. They do everything they may close the sunglasses to. It's like a Louis Vuitton. Yeah, it's very similar. They got well in terms of like brand recognition and everything. Brandon Pullup, but but take a double bag. Give him some free advertiser right now. It sounds like they need it. That's what you pull up. That's what you pull up, Brandon. You think I'd be into that? I said a duffel I told you a double bag. You think I'm a fucking bird. This is just the website. I said duffel bag. You could have put Boatega Veneta duffel bag. If I pull up a company's website and that is the first thing on the page, I don't even want to look at their duffel bags if I'm making fucking you ruined this. Brandon, you completely ruined this. It's a travel bags. You want me to click on? Oh my god. Just don't get out of the website. What the fuck? What's next? What else we got? Jacobi Brasette, Christmas guest to the Cardinal's Office of Line, Ramoa Luxury Suitcase, Versace Robe, Bond at number nine Cologne. The guys are going to be looking good, traveling, smelling good, traveling. And yeah, enjoying the nice Versace Robe. I went for Versace Robe one year for a lot of the guys on the team. I think it was tight ends and quarterbacks and running backs, maybe. They got a lot of good versions, man. Luxury Robes, man, can't go wrong, deep. Josh Allen got his Lyman, one quarter of a cow. That's a great, that is a great gift for an Lyman, it's a great gift. Dude, as long as you got a deep freezer, as long as I was about to say, as long as you got a fridge full enough for a quarter of a cow. Yeah, that's hilarious. Dude, great beef. That's good stuff right there. All in on the beef. My homes gave out hubo watches, full swing kit. Oh, nice release headphones, Oakley Meta glasses. Nice. Renault luggage, Renault was really going all in with the quarterbacks. All right, event and E-bike. Nice. The E-bike was a hit. Guys were flying around on those outsides of the facility, those things could go Jared golf custom golf carts. We've seen that one before. Nice. See that one before can always appreciate a nice custom golf cart. Aaron Rogers, can am off road side by sides. Now that's a freaking can. What's a can am off road side by side? It's like it's a quad. It's a quad. Oh, nice. Hell yeah. That's fucking badass. Think you can get after it. Hell yeah. Oh, here we go. Here's the video. Oh, no, I'm wrong. These things are souped up. Yeah, that thing. Yeah, they're more do buggy-ish dude. That thing is so neat. Joe burrow gave his offensive line an actual prehistoric fossils. This is a first a creativity Joe. Would you, how would you feel if you got a fossil? I would be so fucking excited. Are you kidding me? You're in the fossils. You're a big deal. You're a museum guy. I fucking me. I've done the bones of a decayed animal for millions of years ago. I would love that. Nice. All right. So you're not a flat earth guy. You believe that the earth is going around that long. Nice. Last year, burrow gifted his alignment on authentic Japanese katana sword. I saw that last year. Joe's creative with the gifts. He's a good gift giver. I like this. Tom Brady and his team went undefeated. The undefeated year. I forget what year was like 0809 somewhere on there and Brady got his entire offensive line new brand new SUVs. But the kicker was that it was a one-year lease. So what? So they just had to give them back? I don't know if there was an option to where they could pay the rest to buy it. Well, it has to be right. There's always an option to buy. I thought that was absolutely hilarious. And Tom was on the broadcast talking about you. Beggars can't be choosers. Which is right, dude. You got to appreciate your gift no matter what it is. You got to give it back. SUV for a year. 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That's right, ladies and gentlemen, the NHL, one of our favorite sports is in full swing. So don't miss the NHL winner classic, which is always one of the biggest hockey games that the NHL has, and it's outside typically at a football stadium or a baseball stadium. I think football stadium is the only place I remember it, but either way, the Rangers are taken on the Panthers down there in Miami on January 2nd. So it'll be a little New Year's fun as always and on TNT. But let's get to our stamps. I want to look at this video. There's a nominee in here for a grandmother and I'm always in on that. Can we play that video? Let's see what the sweet old lady has to say. Judging by the description, it might not be so sweet. Grandma's got a foul mouth. What is it? Side? Did you sign it? Yes, it's signed jersey right there. Nice grandma. Where did it go? A little side Travis Kelsey. She's pretty excited. Yeah, she was pumped. She said holy fucking shit. Our grandma didn't cuss at all. Actually, she would say things like shoot and darn. But I'm with that kind of grandma too. I have for sure right of my alley. Some tells me that dad's mother might have been a little bit more on that side of the road. She ever had the cigarettes out of her mouth, maybe. I just remember going to that house and be like, I can't fucking breathe. Like, what'll be doing? That's what I called for. Yeah, it's, of course, I remember that. Walking to that fucking house down in Florida. I mean, what the fuck? I can't fucking ask you. You don't even need to fucking spark another one. It's in here. Yeah. The smoke is in here. It's not less. I spent more time on her fucking porch down there than I did inside the house. Shout out to Grandma Kelsey though. She was awesome. Sweet woman. Sweet woman. It was Grandma Fur really. I think her name is Thelma Fur if I'm not mistaken. That tells you a lot about that side of the family. Name alone. Thelma Fur. All right. Well, she probably hails from Appalachia, some capacity. It's a hillbilly name if I've ever heard of a hillbilly name. That was the most dangerous side. Thelma Fur. Oh, she's drinking some moonshine. She's whipping that shit up. That's why dad wanted to go down there. He's trying to get some homemade moonshine. No doubt. No doubt. All right. Who else will we get? Orlando Brown Jr. friend of the show. I want St. Cody Ford to run, outrun a wild pitfall with a 24-pack of beer in his arms. They were glass bottles. Athlete. Oh, dude. Did you see this play? Dude, you have to watch this. They put them all the way out to the field under three by and fucking threw them ahead. You got to see this. All right. I see him down there at the bottom of the screen. Joey B threw it to him. Give me these. Point get off me, son. Almost got in, dude. Oh, my God. Dude, you got to go for the legs. You got to go for the legs. You can't go for the you can't go for the the fucking stomach on a guy that big. That was amazing. Oh, he got to go with that one. I'm going to Cody Ford. I was going to go Vic Fangio, but after seeing a offensive lineman catch a hitch on the outside of 345, I don't know how I don't go with that one. All right. Who do you got, Trev? I'll go with Tremac Bride, who broke Zach Erts record for the most receptions by a tight end in one season, one 16. Big Ertsy had that for a long time. And yeah, a guy who is in the room with Zach Erts for a few years, Tremac Bride. Took some notes from the old ball player while he was there in Arizona. And congrats, Trev. And that's a hell of an honor. Hell of an accomplishment, man. One of the best tight ends recently just got paid as the best tight end, which I'm proud as hell of him and couldn't be a better guy and one hell of a fucking football player. So, Tre gets my stamp of the week, baby. All right. That does it for stamp of the week. Again, stamp of the week is brought to you by NHL on TNT. Again, don't miss the NHL one of classic between the Rangers and Panthers, January 2nd on TNT. Let's get into some no dumb questions. All right. What do we want to have? We got some no dumb questions. Would you rather be forced and tortured watching catching Kelsey on a loop for the rest of your life or get Brazilian waxed like Jason? Um, I'd rather get Brazilian waxed. Yeah. Just rip it off. Are you kidding me? Yeah. Easy decision. By the way, the guy that maybe not Brazilian waxed, but the guy that we've mentioned fits multiple times. Did you see him just got waxed? Yeah. You see him get waxed on TV, dude. I did. That's just I think chess might be worst. Dude, it's so tender, especially if you if you like the hair around that area all the time. Oh, baby. Oh, baby. That might rip off. I think my ripoff is so tender. Nobody wants to be walking around out here with no nips. Yeah. But, um, yeah, I'd rather just get my my Gucci waxed. What was your favorite gift, uh, you've received for Christmas this year? This goes out to Jake and Brandon as well. Happy holidays. My favorite gift, my favorite gift is from Kylie. Um, she submitted. So I I'd like to a tweet from Kevin Neelan the other day who is now doing paintings. I don't know if you aware of this, but on Twitter, he has painted a bunch of celebrities in a very creative way. And he was releasing them in like a, uh, like a almost like a sweepstakes kind of style. Like you submit your name and email, whatever. Uh-huh. If you if you're an email gets picked, you get a chance to buy the, yeah, prints in Kylie one one of them. So I'm getting an original Kevin Neelan the best gift that I got was from Taylor. Um, but it gives away things that we're trying to keep in house. So not to say it. And, uh, I love you to but Austin Austin got me a great gift as well. Swift's good gift givers. They are great. They are great gift givers. Oh, patching my homes got the rest of the offense. Uh, some, um, some PlayStation fives and a portable PlayStation, uh, like a, like a suit case that has, uh, has a screen and an area you could put the PlayStation. It's like a portable like gaming, uh, suitcase. Oh wow. From Poga. From Poga. Yeah. That's cool. I really hope my girls get into video games because I just like, I have not ever, I mean, we moved to this house in 2018 and I have never hooked up a video game console. Like I miss playing video games. And I just don't have the time to really do it. You know, it's a fun one for everyone. What's that? Mario party. Mario party would be nuts. They would lose their minds playing some Mario party. Jake, Brandon, get in here. What do your favorite Christmas gifts? I feel like Jake's gonna be a super boring. I think that was a great gift. Super boring might be up there for me, but I will, uh, sticking with the theme of everyone shouting out their significant others. I'll shout out my wife uh, there's a sandwich spot that opened in Florence. We went to the sandwich spot and they opened a place in L.A. And they're doing, yes, in Florence Italy. And then they opened a place in L.A. And they're doing sandwich making classes where they teach you how to like make their own bread and like build sandwiches and stuff like that. And she got me a sandwich making class gift. So we're doing that together. We're going to learn how to make this authentic Italian bread. I'm happy for you, Jake. You know, you're you're going to learn how to make a sandwich. We're a very big pro bread making podcast. And I am, I'm very hyped on this gift. All right, Jason should all over. Go ahead. If I gave that gift to Kylie Kelsey, that was it. Hey, go learn how to make a better sandwich. Like I was not going to go for very well. Exactly where this was going. It's better that the rules are reverse for sure. Man, I got a great idea for a gift, Kai. Get to work. I'm very hyped. Brandon, you're next. Don't got me a bird poster. Birds! No, it ain't birder. Noted birder. Noted birder. Some of my favorite birds are on here. So wait, time out. Some of your favorite birds. What are we looking at here? It's it's back yard L.A. birds. So yes, these are birds that I see frequently. Okay. What which ones are your favorites on this poster? Oh, this is going to be a three-hour episode. We're not going to have time for this. Just give this one or two. Black Phoebe. These little bastards are great. Good. What is it? Is it the sound? What is it? What's so great about? They're little birds that basically a perch on little low things in your yard. And they just eat bugs all day. So you can just watch them like dive bomb your grass all day. They're cool. They clean house. They're great birds. Nice. And then if we're being honest, these little guys, the Cooper's Hawk, great bird. They use rats out of the yard. These guys are the best. These guys. These guys are very fucking annihilate small little rodents. Maybe that's what I should be going. Instead of Kylie wants to get a cat for getting on my set of the house. Just get a falcon. Do a falcon. Be a falconer in your basement. Jason. You need you need a cat. Falcons aren't in your basement. You don't need to be in the basement. One of those. The rats from getting to the basement. Yeah. You're going to want a falcon. Yeah. That rats. Let's get you falcon. Outside of that poster, Brandon, what's your favorite bird of all time? Favorite bird of all time. Ooh. I'll go for any kind of owl. But like seeing a great horned owl is great. Good bird. Great horned owl. Yeah. What about what's the one that makes all the noise? It's not a screech owl. It's a it has a very like weird hoot where it goes the tree thing in the barn owl. There's no animal that makes that fucking sound. Bart owl has like a hoot. The barn owl kind of like will scream. This should be your podcast. 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