Bye Bye Conspiracy

Yep, Charlotte me in the guy we are the brilliant his podcast back for another week of brilliant anything this Hell the tight walk up. What's up, man? How you doing? How was your weekend sir? How was your week man? Good good anything fun? You know what? Saga from breaking points came in and he did this like whole Epstein breakdown for all the new files that have been dropped and I thought you was trying to get me and I saw the I saw the video see what do you mean I thought you're trying to get me, bro No, but I say Saga and he's nothing in my whole dude. His name is Saga. Saga. Yeah, Saga. What's his name? What's his whole name? Saga and Jettie. Oh, okay. Okay. Maybe I know the Jettie part. Yeah, what was he? I mean, I saw I didn't get what you know, you don't know the I do I see him all the time on flagrant I did find something out where where's he on? He's on a YouTube show to breaking points. Come on. Why are you bail about it? Well, no, no break points on YouTube? Yes, you asked me something. I did find something out. I found out that What a burger is the only fast food chain that starts with W What the fuck is that me the only fast food chain that starts with W They all start with different things though. No, no the letter W It's the only one that starts with W. There's no other fast food chain that starts with W You think about this. Let me think. Let me think No About the Willy Wonka white castle. Yeah, Willy Wonka's chocolate factory. No White castle for sure. White castle is not really that's yes. It is the one of the best best I mean, I don't eat the shit no mug, but because I'm a crystal guy and also it gives me gas, right? I remember one time, bro. We drove The New York City. Why would you open your fucking mouth about it? You are so stupid. It's unbelievable. Oh, no See because if you really get it, this guy's really retarded. I did it. I did it the other day So it's this one that went viral. This guy's on like a ski lift and he goes what a burger is the only fast food chain that starts with W And the people going down the ski lift they go Wendy's he goes Wendy is not such a mouth. Yeah I wanted to get it started and he was gonna say He was gonna get Wendy's what bothers me is that I couldn't remember Wendy's right off the top of my head Our white castle and I have such fun memories of both Wendy's my grandmother used to love to go to Wendy's when I was I would ruin it. She likes hot fries I like he wants to hear was on the husk. He didn't have none. He wants my nuts in his mouth He didn't want you to get out to we need to get these nuts in your mouth He wanted that for himself Okay, yo white castle drove to New York City when I was young back in the day with my dad and his now wife And we ate white castles and I was letting it rip from the back Really 13 hours and lying every time I don't know who the fuck I don't know who he'll fuck. Yeah, Brad. I don't know if they we just letting the silent ones go with nobody No, nobody wants to claim it because everybody was eating white castles so everybody was probably letting silent ones rip but didn't know where it was coming from That shit was great. It went up. It's so hard when one of them hits really hard You're not sure if everybody else melted so you'd be like god damn who was that I? Net yeah, I never I never think you guys aren't gonna smell it when I let it go like I'm aware every single time You know that's a form of flirting. I think so it is that's why I like why would you want another man to know how you asked him out? I think that because you want them to fuck it good. All right, isn't that what you're trying to get at? What do you see with that motherfucker said on that video? You see you heard that fart. He's like sounds it sounds like my size Smells like my size Straight up all you being public and you farting somebody be like, huh? It's like you calling me Sounds like my mother fucking size, but make sure that shit's not tight. I don't know Maybe there's some guys that want like a bigger hole now. I didn't lose ones them lose ones attract the fed bro them lose ones make the mother fucking That's come over. Well, I mean for my feds. I mean dick, but you know, I'm saying like that's what I mean Wait, why the feds dick? I don't know. I just said face okay. I could think of an acronym fuck everything Damn, so I don't mean you know Every see fuck everything I'm a center of Day this guy every day dick sucker, right? Every day dick sucker forever Forever eternal dick suckers forever eternal dick suckers. That's good. Yeah, bomb. We don't fail We got that's what feds me. No when the feds come knock for every dick swallower Oh I like that. I like that. That's not like a drink. I'm Deal bro. That's how that drink. I can't he come back. I'm just saying don't it sound like a drinks I'm for all the dogs for every dick sucker dick swallower Swallower is so much crazy. You don't think so. You watching the gay hockey show yet the gay hockey show. Yeah, the hair of the gay hockey show. Oh Is a real thing. It's like the biggest thing on Netflix right now. Didn't y'all do that already? Back in the day Benders, and I'm saying we did the first gay. I was in the first day. I can show out to Chrissy D Bro, we did the first gay hockey show everybody's copy of us. We were gay before that. What was the what's the gay hockey show? It's called what is it called? Puckfuck's no You know on the way here my homegirl's like when are you gonna grow up when you guys that I don't know I really don't I'm trying. I'm not trying it. He did rivalry. Oh, man, yeah, women women. Why do you need to grow up? Why don't we need to grow up grow? Yeah, so when you got kids know like being childish with your kids and when your kids are looking at you like Aren't you supposed to be the adult nerd? That shit is so fun man being mature is for people who can't provide for their family You got a mask that you got a mask your inability to take care of your children and wife With like being responsible in public. No. No, that shit is performative. You try to be a person because you know what's underneath We are taking care of our loved one. Yes, man by the glory of God. We are taking care of our loved ones and honestly man being immature is good for my mental health. It's good for everybody It's good for everybody around you's mental health because it gives them the freedom to also be a man Yourself just have a little fun talk a little shit say what's on your mind? I love me in a conversation with someone who's pretending to be serious Got long like you need to break the wall, right? They actually get mad at me about that on like interviews and shit like that Wait, why cuz I got I gotta it's got to be like a joke every three-minute minimum something Guys, why you get a little anxious being serious? Yeah, man, you know, just and I'm cool with the serious conversation Yeah, but also there's really good moments in that serious conversation for jokes as well. Yes, so let's do it for the levity I mean the more the more tense the situation is the more ready for a laugh. We are Yes, yeah, nothing's never that serious. Not well. Well, it's really not something Give me an example hockey No, Epstein Epstein what part of it? The kickoff. Yes, that is crazy. What about the financial crimes? That's actually very small. That's minor compared to the miners that are in this Try to be serious. He was like I'm gonna And the word minor hit his head and help it Kim bomb a scene to go to fucking help it. Yeah, but neither could he Stop it guys, but we got a chill, but all jokes that yeah The financial crimes and shit like that is so like it doesn't even matter compared to like Fucking children and the murders and they're like, yeah, I agree with you But I think the financial crimes are what is actually gonna I think it's going after the financial crimes are gonna Actually unearth what the whole thing is. Mm-hmm. I think that's Because I think when like we were looking to all these emails and all these conversations and basically what you're seeing is that there's this You know group of incredibly wealthy and powerful people and the laws don't apply to them And not only do they not apply to them when they're you know having sex with underage girls But they don't apply to them when it comes to paying taxes They don't apply them when it comes to breaking the law and getting punished How can the law of the lot of people who make it the lowest? Well now you talk and funding the people who are making the low now You're talking now the thing this frustrating. I imagine for all of us is you basically are you know You see these people out there and it's like man They just you know continue to have all the success and they continue to have all this wealthy then you have everything and And the thought is you're like what what is going on? Why can they have these opportunities? Why are they put in these positions? What the fuck is going on here? And they would like us to believe that they just work harder, you know They would like us to believe that they're just going after it No, what you're doing is rigging the system and you're taking advantage of everyday people. Don't you have to be? Don't you have to have a certain level of intelligence and have had to put in a certain level of work to get in position to be Fat high up the food chain and you can you know get an opportunity to rig no system anybody can ace the test if you know the answers and I think the The fact that they present themselves is if they don't have the answers like if if you're a bank, right like any and you get caught laundering money for rich people in America. And you don't even have to pay the full price for the crime. Like you can negotiate that down by talking to Epstein and then what is it, Kathy Rumler? She was like the head lawyer for Goldman Sachs and I think she was like the Obama's like White House chief deputy or something like that. Like they just help you negotiate the punishment down. You're basically communicating to that bank, right? This is a Swiss bank. You're basically communicating them. Hey guys, you could break the law. And then if we catch it, we'll just knock the fine down so it's not that bad. So, and then that's the messaging that's constantly going on with this Epstein class of people. It's like they break the law and then it gets pushed under the rug. Epstein's initial case breaks the law. 40 girls are coming out and then they give them like this slap on the wrist, not even like really a pedophile charge. This is what happens. And it's crazy that he had, wasn't he registered as a sexist vendor for a little while? For a little while. That's crazy. Like why is it a little while? Did you get over it? No, you get registered for that forever. And I do wonder, I was thinking about this too, right? The Warren Buffett, the, the, the, who else is rich as people? Or just Steve Jobs, even though he's the C's God bless the day. - Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos. - Not Gates, but not Gates, 'cause Gates is in there. - Oh, yeah, yeah. - I'm talking about the guys that are ultra wealthy who aren't in there. - Oh, yeah. - You know what I'm saying? Like, I just named them. - You don't think Buffett's in there at all? - No, they, they, they would have been out already. By the way, some people are listed in their foot, which is also strange. Some people are listed in there just because they were being talked about. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, like, like regular email ways. Like, I, yeah, I don't like that shit. Like, I don't like when people would be like, oh, this person was in the Epstein files. You like, but when you go read what they did, it was literally somebody just mentioning it. - They're talking about it. - Yeah, no, no. In the Epstein files, I mean, you were interacting with Epstein, you were doing favors on behalf of Epstein where you're asking Epstein for four things. - Anything, if you were doing favors for Epstein or doing things with Epstein after he was convicted. - Especially if it's before he's convicted, you can at least, we can at least give you the benefit of that. - The benefit of that. - Okay, you're not looking up everything about this person. You know that he's powerful, you know that he's wealthy and you wanna connect with powerful wealthy people, right? Yes. - After conviction. - We got a magnifying glass on you. - After conviction, we got a magnifying glass on you. Okay, and of course, if you're asking for sexual favor with an asking for girls, it's like, "Oh, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on." You should be cooked. Also, the people who said that they had no contact with him. After the fact, and you found, like, you found out. Not only Elon Lutnik, Howard Lutnik, the Commerce Secretary, Trump's right hand man, it's behind him in every single video, said, "I went over to his house, he does this whole interview where he painted this picture." He's like, "Oh, he was so creepy and we never spoke to him again, find out that him and his family go to the island." Damn. He's the only one who brought his children to the island. That's the one that you went for lunches, I'm sure. - Yeah, I was like, "We don't care why you went there." - Like, what fuck is meal you went there for? - He talked about the island, like, it was magic city. I went for the winged wings. - Dude, you don't have to think. Like, what the fuck is going on, man? - Yeah. - It's interesting, and I was really sitting back thinking this week, it's just like, what do conspiracy theorists have to even hang their hat on that? I mean, because you got Obama telling us aliens are real. - Man, they rolled out Obama. - He's trying to be retired in Hawaii. They rolled them out and they said, "Tell 'em aliens are real." - It's the second time he's done this. And you know what pissed me off about that interviewer? He didn't fucking follow up. You just don't let Obama say aliens are real, and you move on to the next subject. Like, you out, listen to what he said. He said aliens are real. And I'm like, what do you mean aliens? What do you mean aliens are real? Explain that. He explained it on his Instagram, though. What he said was the same thing that we've always said, is that the universe is so big, and there's so many different universes and galaxies that the chances of life are high. - Though, I don't know why that's such a. - Yeah, I just saw the clip. So you're saying that Obama confirms that aliens are real, and then he just moves on to another. - Yes, he asked them. I think the next follow up question was, well, Obama said aliens are real. Then he explained that he's never seen, and he don't think that they're in no underground lab somewhere, and then the next question. - Did he ask them? Did he, oh go, keep going. - The next question the interviewer asked was, what's the one thing you wanted to see as soon as you got in the White House or something like that? 'Cause I think they said it was a rapid fire around. So he was just asking rapid fire questions at the end, but I don't give a fuck. President tells you aliens are real, bro. I need to see what's going on. - What's your foot on that? - I need, oh, is it? It's the clip. - Are aliens real? - They're real, but I haven't seen 'em, and they're not being kept in, what is it? - Area 51. - Area 51. There's no underground facility. Unless there's this enormous conspiracy, then they hit it from the president of the United States. - What was the first question you wanted answered when you became president? - Where are the aliens? - Brian Tyler Cohen podcast. By the way, that could be it too. I think we keep acting like, you know, president in the United States of America means top of the food chain. - You're here for four to eight years. We're not telling you everything. - That's all I'm hearing. - As a civilian going on every podcast, tell us everything. - That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying, you know, like you say, I'm all you only here for a short time. Okay, we ain't a people that run this shit forever, all right? And we don't need y'all to know what the fuck is going on. Okay? - But it's good, man. That's hard hitting journalism. That's how you need to approach these. - Yeah, but you got to, you got to do a follow up. And the thing is, what's harder? Are aliens real? - That's it. - Those are the questions we should be asking Obama right now. - I have to, I have to read that. - I said, I said, when you become president, when you let us know if aliens are real. And I forgot what our answer was, but that shit made every UFO site, like I would viral the UFOs with it. - Oh, yeah, they love here now. - ET Twitter, they know Twitter. I was super viral with that shit. I was super viral. - If you become president, are you really going to tell the truth about UFOs? - I have said, I want to open the files as much as we can. But there are enough stories out there that I don't think everybody is just sitting, you know, in their kitchen making them up. - But is that guy like a journalist or just like a podcast? Brian Tyler Cohen, I don't, I think he's a, I think he has a podcast for like a YouTube channel. - He might be a journalist. - I put, I don't disrespect nobody, no. I don't know who's who, it's me, it's me. I mean, President Obama sitting down with him so clearly, he got some real motion. Look up who Brian Tyler Cohen is. I don't want to disrespect that man. Look at that, look, let's look up who he is. - Look, come on. - He's a crazy thing about aliens. I have been saying this forever, man. When you look at the earth and you look at the variety of life on earth, why would you expect all of these different galaxies and universes to be any different? And the arrogance of us, American earthlings, to always look at things from our perspective. Like I got a home with my guy Frosty, Frosty, you know I love you. Frosty, if you like, do you know how long it would take to get to another planet? No, how long it would take us? We don't know what the fuck they got. They might got some Dr. Doom shit when they just traveling from dimension to dimension. Like it's nothing. We don't know. Brian Tyler Cohen is a prominent progressive political commentator, podcast and author known for hosting no lie with Brian Tyler Cohen. He is widely viewed online media personality with over 10 million subscribers across platforms, often featuring high profile political figures. He's also an MSN be contributed. Oh yeah, he lit. Turn it. He lit. He's a real journalist. We the ones pretending. He didn't pretend he's being held. He watches the New York Times. He was like, "Why the fuck do you have those guys there?" Fucking panel. Hey. What did that mean? We didn't talk about aliens enough on that panel, dude. I think that's true. We didn't talk about aliens. We should have done that. Those are the questions you didn't ask. I tell DuBaud I shit all the time. I'm like, "Why do I just, why do I talk anything with sense?" Hey bro. I think I'm just about to go full-fledged, full-shycedy, 10-foil, 10-foil, full-shycedy man, so. Like why? Because there's nothing else to talk about. That's the, is there aliens in there? I think there's nothing else to talk about. But if you know that there's a group of global elites that are fucking children breaking the law left and right and that there is going to be no justice whatsoever for these people, why do we got to take shit seriously? Bro, they, you know what I mean? Like, yo, take your shit up with them, man. Wait, we live in a world where they really out here grilling babies, bro. Well, like they, they are. They heal the field. They take your baby legs and fucking putting them between buns and eating them shit like snacks, bro. I don't think they're doing that. All right, you seen that video of the dude? What's his name? Peter, what's Peter's name? Peter Attia. The, it's either T or something with an N. Oh, Peter Nygard. Did you see what he, we'll have the video where he's soliciting the fucking parts from the black women? It's a video. I'm like, this is not AI. You know, put, put Peter in the guard, parts from black women. Wow. He got sinuses. Really? Canadian, fashion, mobile. I don't know if that's him, scroll back. Sexual, preter, Peter, Nygardt, since 11 years for four counts of sexual assaults. Let me pull up this. I just found out you got a search engine on Instagram. I'll be looking, man, my shit is crazy. Oh, really? They finally figured that out, huh? I just got my algorithm back. TikTok made them, TikTok made them change the whole thing up. I think that's what happened. All along. And AI. Oh, you know, yeah, Peter, isn't it Peter Nygardt? Yeah. It listened. Sensual technology, the Peter I invest in in this called SCNT, which takes the egg of the young, perfect women's fast machine. Take the egg and takes out the nucleus, since books are DNA in the nucleus. They could start taking it off. A for right. Huh? If he needs us, he'll be ready. If he's still ready. with dark people of the rate that we don't see. - You're dealing with dark race. - I'm the kind of people, bro. - It's currently sexy black woman from Africa. - He grows heavy, kind of, I don't know where we're on this channel. - It was for a second. - Perfection. - Can I just say one thing? - Why is this so far fresh for people to believe? We already know that there are people stealing other people's organs and selling them on the black market. We know that that happens for a fact. They're stealing kidneys, they'll kidnap you, drug you and take body parts. - That's not conspiracy. We know that that happens, right? - Yeah. - Okay. - Why is it so crazy to believe that they would be doing any of this? - It's right, this is a video, Peter and I guard. - Oh my gosh. - You're not gonna be seeing a soul shit attempting to purchase babies from black women saying, "Whatever I bid, he's gonna out bid me, I'll buy 60,000 worth of eggs, umbilical cord, a placenta, even your period blood is so rich which themselves." - Well, I mean, they do. - Oh, that's different. - That's the adrenochrome stuff, right? - Well, that's also bad. - You were taking baby blood. - No, yeah, I know. But I thought he was saying that eating actual babies. - I mean, it's a little different. - I mean, this is just, he just chooses to consume it a bit. - It's crazy to think. Yeah, it's just like, everything's on the table, bro. Everything's back on the table. - Literally. - Everything's back on the table. We're not calling conspiracy theorists crazy anymore. - You can't? - No, everything's back on the table. - You can't. - And that's literally what it boils down to. That's what I'm saying, like, what do we, why? - This shit that I'm watching now was like, two surface. I gotta go back to behold the pale horse and everything out. 'Cause I was ahead of the game. - Give me some good, give me a good conspiracy. - That's what I'm saying, what? - Give me something good. I mean, give me a good-- - Sasquatch is still there, bro. You don't fuck with this. Why don't we worry about the animal conspiracies? Like, flat earth and animal conspiracy-- - I can't, I can't do the flat earth. I will say, now the, so shit being over an an article. - Ice wall being behind the ice wall? - I don't know about the ice wall, but-- - So the guy that escaped from the ice wall? - No. - Albino. Straight albino. Blond. Straight albino. Blond hair, bro. You ain't see the-- - Y'all need, see y'all gotta get up on my algorithm. - Y'all know. - Hold on. - He looked just like Ron Donge. Look to my guy. - Yo, shout out. - Hold on, hold on. You didn't see the guy who escaped from the ice wall? - How long do albino's live, Al? Can you Google that? Like, what's the life expectancy for that one? - Guy. - Business state. - What you mean? Guy who escaped. Y'all didn't see that, shit, you? Typical. Albinism typically does not affect life expectancy. Oh, that's good. - They just gotta use the law. - Look, look, oh man. So this country in Antarctica. - What about it? - How long has it been there? Why doesn't anybody know about this? - Butthia Garthia is at least 10,000 years old. Look what we did. Why you don't want, now you don't want to believe? I thought you said everything was on the fucking table. - Look, look, look, look. The only thing, bro. - This is what's on the table is things that affect power structures. People do anything for power money. That's now what I believe. There's nothing that I don't think people do for power money. If you could tell me that like, if you can grind up the albinos in some way when they possess certain powers, et cetera, then I can maybe believe it. What if those people behind the ice wall are behind the ice wall because that's exactly what they might use them for? You understand what I'm saying? They might be something that there might be some power that the people behind the ice wall give them. So let's keep them away from all of society and only us elite, secret society people know about it. Every now and then we go behind the ice wall to power up, you know what I mean? Cheers for cancer could be behind that shit. Oh, by the way, we ain't even talk about that. In the past couple of weeks through all it is shit, how many cures for cancer have popped out? Oh, that's a great conspiracy. How many cures of cancer popped out? The United States leaves the world health organs. This is the conspiracy. The United States pulls out of the world health organization, the WHO or whatever. And immediately cancer treatments to start popping up. So then the conspiracy is that the US has been applying pressure to keep these cures for cancer down so that the pharmaceutical companies that make money selling drugs to people that have cancer. You gonna see this shit? No. This is real. Major. Yes. This shit is so minor. But to me, the reason why that's interesting is that it plays into power dynamics and wealth. Like what horrible things were human beings willing to do in order to enrich themselves, even if it's also other people? We said it on this podcast months ago. You're gay. Yeah. I don't even think that's cool anymore. Yo, flow key. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like that ain't even, I need to be something else. Yeah. I hear you do this. Like gay is normal. Yeah. Like y'all don't think so. You gotta be a vazem. That's normal. That's old. That's old. That's old. That's old. That's old. That's old. Yeah. People fell like, wait, they stopped doing that. The days don't even say that. Yeah, they don't. Because it's too hard. It's too hard to even, like, who all? It's like watching pleuribus. What are they doing? Yeah. Like, what are them doing? We them over here. We they over here. I love they. You know what I mean? Do you love they? What the fuck are you talking about? It is more difficult to speak like that. It's Ice Wall language. They said the person that came from behind the Ice Wall was speaking a different language. Yeah. That is a different language. All of these shit seem corny. Like, Alex, just go to Google. Top 10 conspiracy. Yeah. It's corny. Moon landing hoax. 9/11 inside job. Obviously. By the way, Moon landing hoax definitely obviously. Obviously, they made a whole movie about it. That's another great conspiracy theory. I think that we got there. We definitely got to the moon. Nah. Nah. I think we got there. I just think that we retaped some of the scenes of landing. You seen that movie with Channing Tatum and Scarlett Johansson taking it to the moon? Is it? There's a fucking movie. I watched it on the plane. Channing Tatum and Scarlett Johansson is called Tame To The Moon. I think they made it over the last few years. That's literally what it's about. How America just wanted to beat, I believe, Russia. It wanted to bang to the moon. It wanted to bankrupt Russia. That's the idea. Yes. So we made Russia feel like, yo, we're going to get to the moon today. To spend all this money when in reality, that wasn't what we were. Now in the movie, they do both. They send somebody to the moon, but just in case they don't get there. They videotape at home. They have this whole fake moon landing day. Yeah. Because they were live streaming it, which is kind of crazy for the 60s. And somebody convinced this Channing Tatum. No, man. If you're going to do it, you got to really do it. So they ended up really putting it on there. And it's better that they did because the whole shit fucked up. Like a cat ran through the shit. So this dumb. But they ended up going to the moon. I don't believe the moon. I believe the story that I heard about the moon a long time ago that they went up there and something told them, y'all need to get the fuck back. Y'all ain't ready for what's up here. Really? Yes, sir. Wow. Yes, sir. Now they all say it's McDonald's on the moon. Have you heard that? No. You didn't hear that. But that's a true story. Remember when the McDonald's mascot used to be the fucking moon, man. No. You don't remember when the McDonald's mascot used to be the moon, man. Used to be the crescent moon with the shades. I do remember. Yes. You think they came from, yo? People don't have this type of imagination. All of these movies that we see this movie that we're talking about take me to the moon right now. That's not imagination. Can you, that's a story? Can you look up conspiracy theories that have proven to be true or not? Oh, that's the truth. This would be kind of interesting. That's a good one right there. By the way, that whole list of them has been proven true. They had the COVID shit up there. I saw the COVID one up there, which is really funny. We ain't getting apologies for that, by the way. We're also some apologies for that. What are the top conspiracies that have been proven to be right now? Oh, yeah. MK, ultra the CIA ran mind control experiments on the US and Canadian citizens using LSD and other methods declassified in 1977. They're doing this year right now through Edibles. Cointail Pro? Oh, absolutely. Cointail Pro still exists right now. All of you motherfuckin' I'll let's stay here for a second. Cointail Pro exists right now. A bunch of you motherfuckin' bloggers that are getting paid to spread false narratives about people, y'all, Cointail Pro, and don't even know it. Think about this. The Tuskegee Syphilist study. The US government knowingly left black men untreated for syphilist to study disease progression. They admit in 1972. You know for a fact there was people in the 1960s going, the government is giving black people syphilists and not curing them on purpose, and they were looked like absolute lunatics. Just clown, like motherfucker, you just wanted to hit that shit raw. Okay. Not fuckin' raw. Stop the government blaming the government on you. Not wearing a condom motherfucker. 100%. Okay. Watergate scandal. Nixon's administration covered up a legal, political espionage led to his resignation in 1974. Operation Northwoods. Declassified documents show the Pentagon proposed staging fake terror attacks to justify war with Cuba. Never executed but documented. They're still doing that to this day. It is day. Wow. It is day. Big day. Big tobacco cover-up. Tobacco companies hit internal research proving cigarettes caused cancer confirmed through lawsuits in the 1990s. Right now, replace Big Tobacco with big social media. Big tech. Big tech cover-up. Social media platforms doing the y'all exactly what Tobacco did to y'all in the 1990s, just as the addictive fucking your brains up the way it actually fucked up your lungs. In 20 years, people are going to look back and back. Hold on. You're saying they let three-year-old kids scroll social media for eight hours. And let's leave. By the way, if people went in those lawsuits right now, I believe people are suing for mental health issues and anxiety issues and they're winning those lawsuits right fucking. They're on controversy. The U.S. secretly sold weapons to Iran. Oh, my bad. What is it? Oh, NSA mass surveillance. The U.S. government was secretly collecting mass amounts of phone and internet data revealed by Edward Stone in 2013. Give it up. By the way, now we, now we give it up. up. We go on these apps, we click to terms and conditions that we don't even mother fucking read. And we wonder why our AI likeness going to be out here sucking cocks. And you got to prove it's not you. You know, you know, you know, it is why. You know, it is, I'm getting ahead of a bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's not me if you see me sucking a cock. Now we really seem like this video out there. You suck. I'm fucking around. No, no, no, no, you stamped it. Yeah. Somebody go make the AI video. They go back to this. See? Yeah. See? Yep. But it is funny that like the US was stealing our data when all they need to do is make it fun. Yeah. Like they were so stupid. Like just make a game that we like. And then we'll just give you all our data. They did. They did. We've given it up Twitter, Facebook, Tik Tok, Tik Tok. We don't ever click on them terms and conditions. By the way, we don't know what we owe these people. One day somebody might come knocking at your door, placenta, the face. I need the placenta. No, I need that dicks up. Charlotte Charlotte. We're supposed to believe. We haven't watched the gay hockey show. We're supposed to sit here and believe that you have it. Close your mouth, bro. This guy got veneers and everything. He wants the doorway. I look good. Listen. Listen. Listen, guys. Listen, I need y'all to understand something. We're not serious to have most conversations. You know, somebody said the funniest shit about us. Hold on. They said, they said we're like the peanuts gang with no filter. Hold on. You didn't see this shit and they made us cartoons. They made you like to do with the blanket. It made me Charlie Brown. Hold on. What the fuck is this shit that? Oh, here you go. Say getting some real good grief vibes from this week's episode. I don't know what the fuck he's talking about. He said watching Andrew and Charlotte man on the brim. It is feels less like a podcast and more like watching a lost episode of the penis gang. If they grew up, move to the city and lost their filters. Andrew's definitely out here giving our big messy haired line of synergy. And we all know Charlotte man would be the one to pull the football away at the last second. Yeah. What the fuck? We don't watch. I don't know what that mean. That's what it means. Cool. Go back to the fucking. Yeah. We're not dumb. That's fair. He's out. I'm about to shut this shit there. I ran a control fair. The U.S. Stink really sold weapons. I ran and funded Nicaraguan Rebels despite concrete. Yeah. Charlotte short-circuit. Yeah, walking back in for the luck. Charlotte back in, y'all. Trinidad James. Listen. Listen. Proving to be true. Okay. What's his name? Olive and North, right? I'm not farmed for it. Yeah, it was Olive and North. Olive and twist. Oh, shut up. It was Olive and North. Y'all remember who Olive. Y'all remember Olive and North. Thanks, though. What you think though? He was the fucking main character of this shit. Olive. Was it Epstein involved with the Iranian country? I think he comes into power around that time. Around that time. Really? Why? Or basically what they say is that there was this thing called like the church committee where a lot of these things that are admitted came from the church committee. Basically, they wanted transparency for nefarious acts that the government was doing within the country and around the world. And once the government now had to disclose the things that they were doing, they needed to find these intermediaries that they could trust to do the things. He was not like the government was like, oh, you caught us. We're not going to affect the world anymore. And so they needed to find guys like Epstein and just a handful of other people and they became intermediaries to do this stuff to wash the money, to launder the money, to get the money to these other countries. I need to be chosen for that shit. Well, easy. Well, well, maybe you're groomed for it. Maybe you're fucking groomed for it. You know, and then you spend the rest of your life grooming. That's great. All of enough with the central figure in the 1980s Iran Contra affair, secretly orchestrated the illegal sale of weapons that Iran, the secure hostages, the secure hostage releases and diverted proceeds to fund the Nicaraguan Contra rebels by relating the Boland Amendment or Boland FBI surveillance of subversive artists, musicians and actors will monitor during the Cold War files later released under FOIA. Freedom of Information Act. Oh, yeah. I want to monitor for what? No. Well, you know what they said is, you know, Jackson Pollock, the painter that just did these like weird. I don't know what the type of art it was called, but they said that the CIA propped it up as a Cold War tactic to like show how like free and liberated America was. Look at the art that we produced. Do all this other cookie crazy shit. So why did we do another artist? So they doing that too. But listen, why did we sweep under the rug that prize was a spy? Crazy, right? Like that nobody ever just thinks about that. I'm weird though. China, right? Wait, prize from the Fuji. He's in prison. Hold on, prize from being a Chinese spy. Let me make sure I'm saying is correct. I remember him getting locked up. Yeah, prize was sentenced to 14 years in prison for his role in a massive multi-year foreign influence game. He was convicted of acting as an unregistered agent of China, conspiring to defraud the US government with this tampering and money laundry. Oh, sure. Like, oh, I think wasn't that the time when China was trying to get people to buy property here. They were trying to off shore. I don't know what it was for. But I'm just saying the fact that stuff like that happened and it's just like on to the next. Well, what's you going to do? Move countries? No, but I'm going to say that's worthy of more but conversation. No, of course we should. I guess what just happens is like when the government, when the country is doing the bad thing, we don't really have much choice. We have to hold them accountable. And if they're the people in power, then what the fuck are we going to do? But you know what I mean? Like, what is the recourse when the government and the most powerful people that don't have to abide by any of the rules that they create are doing bad shit. Yeah, but what do we do? But if Praz was an unregistered agent of China. Praz? All he gave us was ghetto superstar. And he was a third man with a fortune. So imagine what somebody's bigger on his arm. What do you think and saying can backstreet boys are? You know, don't do that. This is a side up to gay up the men and it works. Yo, this is a side up to gay up the men and it works. Why do you think about this? No, no, no, no, no. When Andrew Shulton's cooking, you gotta let him cook. Come on. You think bye, bye, bye. What's about greetings? About greetings? No. Not guarantee you you can see the spike in fluidity amongst men after that song. 100% their impact. It's a side up. They're putting in your brains. You're bisexual. You're bisexual. You're bisexual. Bye, bye, bye, bye. I bet you started thinking about paying your nails right that time. Well, of course you did. Of course you did. We it with that. That was like 2000. The backstreet boys. Who what? That's y'all generation. Oh god. I know. I was. I mean, I had my fertile cortex was fully developed. You know, their manager got locked up, right? Oh, yeah, you see what I'm saying? Come on, bro. This is all a side up. They're attacking men in this country. Bro, these other countries are spending billions and billions of dollars to gay up the men in this country. Bye, bye, bye. I tell it, it is true. No, I can't. I'm not. I'm just sure you don't have to learn, but in 10 years, when all of this shit comes out, just like with the FD positive, you're like, damn, they told you, the guy that didn't believe that they were giving black dudes a syphilis in Tuskegee. See what I'm saying? You're being that guy right now. See what I'm saying? Is it that far fetch? Everyone of these boy groups, they all live this sweet back street boys. So are y'all gay? Say it backwards. Say it backwards. Say it backwards. Boy street. Boy street. You see what I'm saying? That's like fucking that street meat, bro. That's when you fucking just walk on the street. That's right. And that boy is right there. $60 off the street. What were the other bands? 98 degrees? See what I'm saying? That's the temperature you got to have in it. Do you know what the temperature? Do you know what the temperature of comments? Look at them. Look at the temperature. I guarantee you the temperature. Look at the temperature coming right now. Look up. What is the temperature of the semen? What temperature do you need to survive? There we go. Oh shit. Go, go, go, go. Money. Exactly between the exact who shit. Yeah. 93.2 degrees Fahrenheit. They had to put it up five more degrees because it would have been too obvious. Yeah. Yeah. Burn production requires the temperature lower than the core body temperature. Typically around 93.2 degrees. No, go down. Go down. So optimal production testicles are ideally kept 32 degrees Celsius, 34 degrees Celsius, 89.6. Shit. It was 98 degrees. All right, Alex. I added up. Add it up. Eight. Do the math. Plus six. Plus 93. Minus seven or five. 98. Pull up the the boy boy. How many guys was that 98 degrees? I think five was that about 20. I think nine was frozen. My mind was in our honor. Goddamn. Goddamn. Pull up the name of the boy bands. There's something to this, bro. I'm telling you. It was a sigh up. All time. Great boy bands, bro. We already proved the motherfucking instinct with the bye-bye. They put it right now with the Korean pop bands. All those guys. - Guys are too handsome to be only guys. Holy shit. Holy shit. - Keep going down, keep going down. - Wow, I'm not making jokes. - Boys, two men. - New kids on the block. - What do you think they did? What do you think they said every time they bought a new crop to the aisle? - Yes. - Nah, y'all not fuck you, not paying attention, Alex. - We bring the boys to the men. - Wow. - Keep going down, watch more. I mean, it's crazy how often you see this. - Boys on, I don't even remember it in them. - Oh no. - That is, boys on is crazy. Now I know that was a special part of the aisle. That's all I'm saying. This is Alex, open your fucking third eye, man. Pay your fucking attention, y'all. This shit is crazy and all of this shit will be equal. - Think about it. - And sink. - It's short for in sink, who's the sink? - Who's, who's, who's, who's the sink? - R, R, R, R, that's where you clean the body parts. In the sink. - Yeah, that's dude. - You got to do it in the sink? - Y'all really don't. Y'all really don't. - That's what they call the Tuskegee conspiracy there is back in a day. - That's right, don't. - And then what happened? - What happened, syphilis, where everybody, so what? - How do you guys know, how do you guys know this? - 'Cause we're looking at you, bro. You got painted tails and opinions. - You definitely, you're definitely a backstreet boy. - You are a whole backstreet boy. - This is the sia, bro. - This is the sia, it's working on you. Look how I'm sitting, I look at your nails. Look how I'm sitting. It's worked on us, obviously. - You're up in a backstreet boy. - Charlotte's just a minute and a second, a whole episode. It worked on all of us. We've all been compromised. Bye, bye, bye. - Bye, bye. (laughing) - Why do you always got to do that head like this? - Why did the sia got to start like this? - 'Cause there's multiple dicks coming out. - No, you got to get one, you got to get one. - Okay. (laughing) - It's so funny, it's so funny, it's so funny. - Yes, it's so funny. - It does look like they've been ducking dicks, bro. - Any choreography from a boy band in the 90s. - Yeah. - Dodger Lloyd, yeah. - That manager was crazy. - And then they're like, (laughing) - They jerking 'em? - They jerking 'em, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. When you find out you're in favorite 90s boy band with dig dodges. - Nah, they weren't crazy. - Yeah. - Great, they weren't for them, no, they blew the fuck up. - But they're still dealing with the repercussions of that name. - They are, if you, they are, you absolutely right. If you survive the trauma, hey man, hey man. - What's the guy's name? Justin Timberlake, man, the guy's suffering right now. - God damn. - You gotta DIY in a place where you could walk everywhere. - My guy. Justin, yo, by the way, you just walk. - Why do you gotta call out Justin? - By the way. - Nah, shout out Justin. - Just think about, think about even his last name. - Did Justinberlake. - Ooh, a tree and something wet. - A fucking tree-felling something wet. - Yuck, tree-up. - Well, yuck, I'm in. - A fucking wet. - Timberlake. - Timberlake. - And that fucking tree. - The one is falling. - Yeah, one falling. - So what? - What in the lake, bro? - The boy, what's the lake made out of? - What's the lake made out of? - Timberlake is crazy. Wood just fell in something wet. It's crazy. Justin, I fuck with Justin. - I fuck with Justin. - But I'm gonna tell you something. When we, when we right, we right. Okay. - It is what it is. - Yo, I should win. I should won that, right? - I should won one. - But there was like a little battle between Usher and Justin and Timberlake back in the day and Usher used to always be like, cut it out. We not on the same level, blah, blah, blah, this and that. Like. - I would say Usher won. - Yeah, Usher had a whole complete career resurgence. I mean, even back then, Usher was smoking shit. I mean, he was diamond. - I think they both had amazing success in their career. - Yeah, but Usher's still going. - Despite having to deal with trauma to young age because of these siops. - Why wouldn't Timberlake go to Vegas, bro? - Because, man, you don't get to go to Vegas unless you're, unless you make it out. Vegas means you made it out. - Thank you still O's? - Second. - You think he still O's? - I don't know what you said. - Yeah. - I mean, when you make a deal with the devil, damn. They just didn't make a ditch, they just didn't. - There's only one way out. That's blood and blood out, bro. - Damn. - That's blood and blood out. - He sacrificed Janine at the Super Bowl. - Exactly right, man. - Exactly right me too. - Oh yeah, right me too. - You know what, man, that Super Bowl moment was so overblown. Like we old Janine Jackson, like reparations for that shit, bro. - No. - Come on, Tiddy. - But in that day, that was crazy. - No, it was a cover-up Tiddy. - It was a cover-up Tiddy, man. - I was there to see Nipple. - You had a Nipple ring on it. - Bad bunny had way more ass shaking and way more shout out to the bunny, bro. - You know what I mean? - Janine just had a Tiddy with a star. - 20 years later. - Yeah, but that's how it starts. They started with the Tiddy there, right? They get you, they open you up with that Tiddy. They desensitize you to that sexualization at a young age. And now 20 years later. - I treat that the way I treat legal marijuana now. Like if you got a state where you got people doing federal sentences like long, big, long time, like no for marijuana, but the state you're in has made, like say they're locked up in Michigan, right? - I know exactly where you're going. - You're California, you're locked up for a state charge, right? Yeah, you're locked up for a state charge, but they've made it legal. I don't know, I'm wrong. You're locked up for a federal charge, but they've made it legal in your state. So you're locked up for a federal charge of marijuana, but they've made it legal in the state you're in. - Freedom guys, man. - Freedom guys, bro. - Freedom guys, man. - 100%. - Like now you look at Judge Annabelle, you had a titty reveal, and we crucify her for that. - Crucify her, and she even ripped it out. - She actually could have me too, Justin, now that we really want to be honest, we all saw it. - How different a time was this? An innocent black woman, guess her clothes ripped off in front of a million. - In front of millions. - Hundreds of millions. - And you know who we punish? We punish the black woman. - Whoa, holy fucking shit. - We need to start protecting black women. - Holy shit. - That's what we've been doing this episode. - Holy shit, holy shit. Let's pay some bills, man. Let's pay some fucking bills. Yes, sir, let's do some charge announcement. Two chains, man. The voice in my head is God. - Hey. - Hey. - Be out March 3rd, 2026, man. We coming down to the wire right now, okay? If you are a two-chainspan, if you love two-chains music, trust me when I tell you that, this book right here is his most personal work yet. He's cheering his spiritual journey, the spiritual journey behind his success. And yeah, I think it's a deeply motivational meditation, I would call it, and just about how you know the inner voice in your head that's guided you your whole life is God, you know? So go get my man two chains book. You can preorder it now wherever you buy book, two chains, the voice in my head is God. Yes. So go get that. What else we got, Alex? All memes matter. I haven't seen, oh, Shyla Buff. What's up with Shyla Buff, yo? - He got, did he get arrested or something? - Yeah, he's down in Mardi Gras, man. I feel sorry for Shyla Buff, because he got divorced. - Oh no. - Yeah, he's 39 years old, and I just heard all of this the day Lauren Larosa was telling me, he got divorced, he's 39 years old, he moved down to New Orleans, and you know, he's enjoying Mardi Gras this week. But honestly, man, he just really looks like probably how I would look if I ever lost my wife. - Oh no. Like this shit is not fun, guys. Like, you know, I know y'all think being out in the streets and being outside is cool, but there's nothing like stability, there's nothing like a found date, having a foundation, there's nothing like, you know, having a family, man. Like that's him on the ground, yes, they beat him up, and then like held him there and would let him move. - And sue him after they beat him up? - They sue them? Then he's arrested in charge of battery. Hard to say he was terrorizing the city. - Damn, Shyla Buff beaten up in Mardi Gras fight, then arrested and charged the battery, bought him to say he was terrorizing the city. Why don't you go back and dig holes? Yeah, man, I'm telling y'all, yo, if you can, and they said after he got beat up, he went to jail, they said when he got out, he was back sitting in a bar, and he was telling the people in the bar like, man, you know, marriage is hard to work, you got to figure it out, figure out how to make it work. So that lets me know all I need, no. He's going, doing, you got, listen, man. There's nothing-- - Protect your home, man. - There's nothing like being in a marriage, bro. - Protect your home. You got to have a good marriage, though. - A good marriage takes work, too. A good marriage takes work, I'm not mad at him. You know, I don't know what the dynamics of his marriage was. I don't know why they knocked together no more. All I'm simply saying is once you end up getting divorced and you go back to the streets, you probably end up getting drunk and beat up in Mardi Gras. - Yeah, that's all I'm simply saying. You know, one day I was walking at the radio station. This was years ago. This was the station used to be down in Tribeca. And I was walking at the radio station. And, you know, people be down there jogging and shit like that. So this guy jogs by, and this guy comes jogging back Yeah, me real fast. Security Intervene and it was shot Remember you told me it was shy. Yeah, and he said do you want to rap for you or something like that right? No, it was I mean I'm paraphrased and we just said something to the effect of like I fuck with you, you know like you know You know, that's it shy is one of those guys. That's won't shy Completely would understand the boy band Theory of the nineteen highest made guys like Alex get third eyes a hundred percent a hundred percent Um females peeing while standing device. What do you studs up to now? You studs y'all y'all stop throwing the green deal those at the WNBA games We never find out who the fuck the coparts were. How do we not know they know every person that gets kicked out in the NBA game? Yeah, I'm pretty sure they found it. They found it all of them because it was around the time all these prediction markets were happening So then the guys will put up a thing. Oh, I wonder if there's gonna be another green deal dough and then they put man Also the convenient to blame it on guys like guys walking around with scrap ones at WNBA games. Sure, you know what I mean? Yeah, like we don't like we know like we don't know y'all have a big stud audience Imagine like you planned on doing it But you got like pulled over something before you get to the game and now you just got to explain this dildo There's just in your car as you're going to a WMBA game You didn't see the video that do well posted of the person giving the speech the stud giving the speech You didn't know shatter to do it or fuck me look at this shit man life is so funny That's why I don't even know why y'all try to get on stage and tell jokes like y'all can't beat real life You can't beat real life from open carry what a dildo is Open carry cock is crazy not as you're just walking around with your scrap on your hip but like hanging out of your bubble jack You know what I'll see it even having in a case or nothing that could get dirty like she's taking this subway It can hit the pole see I would have loved to beat it. I'd have been like you got plans after huh? You know what I'm saying or before or before let me smell it Like the fact that is by the way the way she hasn't positioned she just you how many uses you think you get after out of a dilly Oh a lot like it do you keep your favor for years or is it like a lot? That's like your favorite either yeah hell yeah, but does it groove like do you warm it in? I? Don't know like like like like what do you wash it? I've ever used like what is that like cleaning your gun? I wouldn't clean my gun every time I used it. You post do oh really? Yeah, yeah, you gotta clean your gun You gotta clean your gun. I'm sure that they clean clean your skin. Yeah, you clean your cock your dildo I figured it'd be more like a baseball man or something Because it you work up way more of a odor on the dildo than you do the fucking that baseball That's the thing like does it capture the odor. Yes, a scrap on oh God come on man. We gotta get a stud on the show like we really need to tell like yo Sir, it's all just like all the brain that is Listen to a studs hit us up. Yo no homo podcast hit me up. Let me know how often do y'all wash y'all um? Didn't you have scrap on then you have flame on breakfast, but yeah, but she don't need a strap Gotta cut a cock Yeah, flame flame. I don't know flame is with women flame sleeps with women She's crushing Bob Flames that she over it. She said I ain't fucking with the trash it no more How can you be over that's what I said I was like I was like just because you say you over it don't mean anything You got it. Yes, I get rid of these. That's what she said. That's what she said, man That's what she said. What else we got all the context of her saying it doesn't matter. No I just need to know I don't know. I really don't even remember MJ is not that what is they talking about when they talk my MJ? Oh, why they trying to slander our boy just trying to help a little kid with some ice in his back, man Wild Angolo Got to admit this was a wild angle. That's one of those things where it's just like you kind of let the kid have his ice in his back You got you got to know you got to have contact no no if that was your kid it wouldn't be a problem It's not your kid exactly. It's just the optics look crazy You're the greatest basketball player of all time one of the most iconic figures that has ever walked the face of the earth You just won the Daytona 500 as an owner because your God has just blessed you so much and you just out there looking like you fucking I'm not doing a little kid. Yeah, it's not do we believe the ice story? Yes. Yeah Well, you think Michael Jordan would be doing this at a time like this in front of the world to see this is completely innocent Bro, cuz I'm the same guy who had a Hitler Marseille like He pushed the envelope. I don't know what Alex just did, but I don't like it That's talking about those Haynes commercials where he used to have still don't like it. Yeah, I don't like what he did I don't know what you just did Al we need the blue square commercial from you and me you better come up blue nails next week now Al there phone calls me and made out there phone calls me in there. I can't do it. It was an object What the fuck does the Hitler must ask got to do it when he was doing right there? Yo, just saying he pushing the envelope. He goes against what you supposed to be doing sometimes This is not pushing the envelope if he's actually doing that to a child. It's dittling a kid I'm sick of y'all doing MJ's dirty y'all did the same thing to Michael Jackson. Why can't an MJ win? Why can't they just lead a peaceful life? Can we not since since since all conspiracy theory to being revealed? Can we stop with the Michael Jackson was fucking molesting little kids? I know it's I don't think I don't think he did that. I know he did it the man was monitored by the FBI for 17 years No because he was monitored by the FBI for 17 years Okay, no, but we can't do this thing where we go conspiracy theorists are right And then all of a sudden. Oh wait a minute. We know it's not right because another one's conspiracy theorists saying it's about MJ Yeah, it was. Oh, it wasn't. Oh, it's mainstream. It's not how you know exactly this is actually he never did And conspiracy theorists are always right this man old Half of Sony Publishing you're gonna go with that one. That's dumb telling you Sony ATV public. This is a fact I guess I can't wait to move we come out and I hope his movie explores that because We always talk about these entertainers who love Bill Coyle is about to buy NBC or this and I'm like no that guy really had Too much power for an artist so they have to get them out of here Amen Amen, I'm just saying who's there. You sure I don't know who the fuck there is but I know Half of Sony's publishing and you giving publishing back to the artist for nothing Come on man. Oh, no Alan how to roll out of the wild boy. I'm just saying how was your wild boy happened? I just has chat gpd with Michael Jackson about to put out a song about Palestine Yes back in 1993 Michael Jackson wrote an unreleased song called Palestine don't cry that was a tender for his history album but was never officially recorded a release only the lyrics of Bob's in auction wow who bought it Look up who bought it Look up who bought it so he had allegations before that no they started right out look at the Look up the one with the when the first time Michael. I don't believe that when the Michael bin the court for she like when was the first time Michael Jackson had allegations Like Julian's auction sent for about ten thousand dollars, but there's no public record a buyer who the buyer was oh Jesus Oh the first public child sexual abuse see night. Oh shit 1993 Probably do the math Do the math people Jarlah Jarlah, we can't be the Tuskegee I mean, it is it is very close. It's very close it. This is crazy But calm. What is it here's my number? My call me baby. Oh me maybe god damn. What else we got? This shit got a little hot bro. This shit got a little too hot. Right. What else we got at what's learning the love Alex? What's learning the love? What is learning the love my guy? Oh here we go Social media is tall. Let me stop for a second read the headline Social media is tall and after Clifton Powell says he is just now learning the love at nearly 70 citing limited examples go back Let's hear it again. Just talking about I'm 70 years old. So I come from a whole another era Then any unique rose is talking about Edward I've learned and I'm not saying I'm right I think everybody is right Because there's so many levels to this But most of this was laid on our parents parents. Yeah, my father was born in 1915 and his parents were slaves Well his grandparents were slaves and so what I've learned is It's not your mother's fault It's not your father's fault. It's not your fault We were born into 450 years of post-slavery PSC PTSD I am 69 be 70 in March. I've just learned how to love Parents to know how to love Their parents to know how to love and if I could say anybody maybe had an edge it was the women. That's why I celebrate Black women. - I just want to talk about in Luke, let me show you what I'm saying right, crop this part out. - Okay, well Luke brought up was like accountability, like yes we can talk about, you know, what our families did to us, all this all that, but eventually, and I know why people try and say this, and I really don't like that, but eventually comes a point where you have to decide, how do I want to live my life. I haven't talked to my daddy in six years, I don't do a fuck about what my family has gone through. I know what I will go. So it's like, you know, you can only say that for so long, Black women are tired, and you know, kind of like putting on to them, like hey, like, you didn't do this entirely, 'cause everybody in here, some of people have talked about, like, you know, going to counseling, how about upon yourself? Stop waiting for a woman to tell you what you need to do. Take that up, and let me just end it just that, real quickly, for me. - I didn't know, and I didn't know, fuck out loud. - Can I say one more thing? - No, no, no, no, no, I have to say this, 'cause another thing that happens is, too, you live your life for so long, and I'm not meaning no disrespect by that. - It's all right, this ain't real. - But when you hit show '60s and your '70s, I wanna be right. - Okay, but let me, I wanna live my life right, I want someone to take care of me and protect me, and that's what the start of women has to do with it. - 'Cause I'm living it right the fuck now. - As I said, I said, 60, but you're not gonna disrespect me. - I'm living it right now. You can not fix no, do you know what I am? - I think there's a misunderstanding. - No, but he's, he's general. I just can't. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - All right, listen, first of all, I got a number of thoughts. First of all, Clifton Powell looks amazing to be almost 70 years old. God damn, I did not know Clifton Powell was almost 70 years old. That's number one. Number two, this is going to sound completely contradictory. I'm so sick of cameras and talking. - Yeah. - People cannot have real honest conversations as long as the cameras are on. - The very body is so performative. - Exactly, man, like there's Clifton Powell just, to me, when I'm listening to him talking to begin, and I'm just like, damn, I want to learn more, I want to hear more, right, because what he's saying is true, and that's his experience, and I got mad old men in my life. My daddy is one of them. Who would absolutely, positively agree with Clifton Powell? Or he would say that, at some point in his life, you know, he had loved the way he wanted it, and he fucked it up. Even though he ended up getting married again, you know, he's got a new wife and everything, but my point is, how can you listen to him, right? And instead of just listening to that brother and listening to what he said, and either learning something from what he said, or offering him something, right, which is, man, that's why therapy is so important, man. That's why your first lesson, best love, is self love, right? Like that's why, you know, I'm blessed to be in the position that I'm in, where I've done the work on myself at a young age, and I have a beautiful wife, and I have a beautiful kid, because I don't want that edge 70. I'm glad I know what love is and I've experienced love. How do you not take that in and receive that, but then you start speaking for a demographic of people that you're not even? Oh, is he gay? No, I don't know what the other guy is, but I'm saying he started speaking for black women. There's no black women at this table. Right. How can he speak for what black women are feeling and experiencing to Clifton Powell in that moment? Why did that turn into that is what I'm saying. Yeah, I think he was also speaking for like people who are 60 and 70, which is, I think, I can't relate. All I can say to myself is, man, I'm glad that I've experienced love at a very young age, because I don't want to be 70 years old. And Clifton is saying he thought he knew what love was, but he's realizing, no, what I was doing clearly wasn't love. I don't know how that turns into a black woman or tire. Like, you're not even a black woman. There's no black woman at the table. What do you think he felt the need to defend right now? I don't know. That's my point. I ain't even here. Clifton's saying anything about black women. And by the way, this is just a clip. So I don't know. But based off this clip, I didn't hear him saying anything about he speaking from his personal experience and the fact that he has never, you know, properly known how to love or maybe he never thought he experienced love the way that you know he should have. I don't understand why that was the reaction from the other guy. And I don't think it would have been a reaction like that if these cameras weren't around. If it was just Clifton and him having an old GD young man conversation, I don't think he, this guy acts like that. Like when we're regular talk, do I, let me say something, let me say something. Like, nobody talks like that in regular conversation, y'all. Yeah. Unless you all get what you want. That's different. Let me never let you get away. Can I say something now? Can I say something? That was, that was wild. I didn't, I don't understand it. Am I missing something? Think of Backstreet Boys. What else we got? What else? What else? What else we got? You want to do some asking? Let's do some asking idiots. Did we pay all the bills? Ask an idiot. Ask an idiot. Oh, you know we got to correct ourselves last week. I forgot what the hell we was talking about, but we were talking about something. And we said that Epstein got convicted under Obama. I got nothing under Obama. I think Obama was in office, but the person appointed was. We said, oh, wait, no, wait, Obama wasn't in office yet. He gets an office in 2009. Oh, no. Okay. So Alex Acosta was the person that did it. So yes, it was under Bush under Bush. Yes. That was correct. Yes. Correction. Because I saw Jake Tappel scorch this dude. Really? It was the same thing. Because the guy was like, who, who was, when you got arrested, who was in office? There was no way. And you said Obama and Jake Tappel was like, no, Bush. Yeah. I saw that. But remember, there was a plea deal that was struck in 2009 way before I was in office, way before Trump is even considering to be in office way before Pam Boni was office, way before cash to tell his director. 2009, there was a sweetheart plea deal that was made underneath the Obama administration with Epstein. That's not it. That that that sweetheart has not been exposed. It was 2008. It was the U.S. Attorney at the time was a guy named Alex Acosta. He was a Bush appointee. He went on to become President Trump's Secretary of Labor. It all took place in 2000. Who was in office at the time? 2008 George W. Bush was in office at the time. George W. Bush. No, 2009 is when the case came out and it was in and Obama was in office at the time. It's not true. That was that was not put that on Obama's name here. J. Cole. Oh, you know, did you like do you anybody here listen to J. Cole out? I haven't finished. It's kind of long. 24 songs. Yes, it is kind of long. Wow. It's what you thought of it. I think that is some I think it's classic J. Cole, meaning that I have nothing to dislike about J. Cole. Like J. Cole is a good artist. I just don't he's not. He's just not he's just not Drake of Kendrick. And I know he shouldn't compare them. But when you're talking about the greatest of a generation and you're talking about like elite level talent, he's a great rapper. Yeah. He's just not an elite level artist like a Kendrick and he's not an elite level songwriter like a Drake. He's not I mean, honestly, when you talk about just music, he's not, you know, make you don't make music as good as future. Listen to my song. Yeah. I'm just talking about songs. Like I think that his songs leave a lot to be desired. When he hits it, he hits it like when you know a record like safety, right. But then even in a song like that, I don't need a boozy sample in safety. I don't need a boozy. He's there. You want to say it off? You want to talk shit? I don't need J. Cole flipping other people hooks like like J. Lo, Jenny from the block and shit like that. I don't need to hear elevators in the middle of the song. Like his songwriting to me, his song, his songwriting, when he creates the songs around whatever his bars are, always leaves a lot to be desired to me. To me, this was like an older Kendrick album because Kendrick's last album was more, I would say in the style of Drake, where it's like he's giving you a lot of hits on the album. Which album? You don't know. The very last one. G and X? Yeah. It's in X slaps. That's what I'm saying. It's like it's like it's like never made nothing that good. It's a lot of hits. But like older Kendrick albums were like a whole story. And you have to like follow it through the whole story. I feel like with better songs though. Sure. But J. Cole's right now, it was like a nice story. But there's no really like slap it. I don't really want to go back and let you do it again. I love that. I love that he leans in the Fairville so heavy. Like I love when people represent where they're from. I love how we love bad money for his Super Bowl show 'cause he completely leaned into his Puerto Ricanness. It's the same thing with Jay Cole. I love him leaning into being from Fairville, but it's just like 29 and 39, 'cause one disc represents his life at 29 and another represents it at 39. It's like I've been hearing the same thing from him for the last decade. We know you the first rapper out of Fairville. We know you left Fairville to go to New York to become a rapper. We know you've had problems with infidelity. Having we all is men. But once you hear that once, the twice, it's like, you know what Jay Cole needs to do? He needs to do some deeper work on himself. And I don't know the brother personally, but you can tell that Kendrick has done some deep, deep soul spiritual work on himself. You can tell he's done a lot of therapy and he has a different level of self awareness and he reflects in his music. You know, like with Mr. Morale and the big step was, you know what I mean? GMX, like it reflects in his music. You can hear the deep inner work that he's done with himself. That's what I don't think Jay Cole has done that. I feel like a lot of his stuff still scratches the surface. Like he don't go deeper than just like the surface. And who he is. - To me, I don't feel that music always has to do that because Drake doesn't let him scratch the surface, but he still puts out songs that I wanna replay over. 'Cause it just sounds good. This one, the mixtape he put out the week prior was way better than the album. - Yeah, 'cause of the production and because of the production and because-- - Of course, wrapping on it. - Yeah, you're hearing his thoughts now like, I don't know, I have no reason to dislike Jay Cole and I don't like Jay Cole, he's good. He's good, he's like, it's very ironic that he's driving around in a Honda right now. 'Cause if I had to compare his raft to something, it would be a Honda. A Honda's a good car. I've had two of them in my life. Good car. - Reliable. - Reliable, lot of longevity. - Does he really is driving around in a Honda? - I mean, that's part of the promo. I mean, I don't know, but Honda's a great car. Honda is a good car, there's nothing wrong with a Honda. What's so ever? And Honda's been around for a long time. It's the disaster time. So old Jay Cole and his bars, but it's just, I'm just something incomplete with the way he writes songs. Like that's just, that's just it. But I mean, the album's cool. I wish he was less than 24 songs. I think 24 songs is a lot for Jay Cole. I think that there's a really classic album within that 24 songs. - Yeah, I've been told you just to put more songs on an album. - I don't know, maybe in this era of screaming. - I don't know if they're screaming. But he doesn't seem like a type of artist that really, like-- - Crystic game streaming or anything. Yeah, that's interesting. I don't know, I haven't listened. - I think he wanted to put out a double dish that was gonna be a classic. And I think he might have missed the more. - He missed 'cause there's too many songs. - No, but a double dish, like nobody's saying that about life after death. - 'Cause it's classic. - But that's what I'm saying. - But that's what I mean, oh, you're right. I mean, but it's just, yeah, you're right. I just don't, I'm not a fan of Jay Cole's songwriting ability. Whoever he was with "Forest Hill Drive" had him write great song. - That was, that's my question. - I didn't really hear that before "Forest Hill Drive," and I've heard that, you know, ever so often after. That's all, 'cause he got some cool records on this project, like-- - He does features. - He smokes those shit. - Yeah, I mean, shout out to-- - The DJ Vlad thing. - Huh? - What are your thoughts on that? - See, here's my problem. I'm always, I pay too much attention. So, I've-- - This is so obvious. - I can't believe anybody took it seriously. - But I've seen Vlad do this-- - So many people. - Vlad has been doing this, Vlad has been doing this with Tori Lanez for years. Since Tori Lanez shit had, like after Tori Lanez got convicted and all that, but it's came out, Vlad has been doing this Tori Lanez fans for years. And it's so obviously sarcasm. Like pull up some of the tweets, man. - Before we do some math, yeah. - Is it maybe weird because Vlad will also post news as a source of news? So they're so-- - So Vlad also trolls. - Right, I know this. I saw it and I was like, oh, this is hilarious. He's obviously being sarcastic. But are there some people that are seeing it and they want these things to be true? - That's exactly what it is, man. But don't do that, don't risk your own credibility by calling out Vlad or Vlad doing it. - No. - If you're a person who doesn't like Jay-Z, doesn't like Rockney. - Ah, yes, yes, yes. - Don't risk your own credibility. - A great, a great, a great. - Acting like what Vlad said is real. - Yeah, it's like, you're almost on, bro. - I'm happy that these things, like make that, let me put these Dylan shades on, so I can read this. Okay, Vlad said I have a confession. Rock Nation has been paying me to support Megan. Okay. All right, I'm just doing straight hypothetical, hyperbole, you know, and what could be true and what couldn't be true. Number one, I know this isn't true. But this is a realistic one, right? - It's not true, but I'm just saying, if I was reading this, he opens up, he opens up with something that, okay, it could be true. They also paid off all the jury members, the convictory. - Sure. - Far-fetched, but more believable than what we about to get to. - Correct. - And they brought the judge, too. Jay-Z did a verse for his grandson's new album. This right here is when you should realize, okay, he bullshit. - Got it. - There should be nothing else to read unless you just read enough entertainment purposes. They paid off Megan's doctor, the lie about the bullet fragments. She was never shot. Come on, my guys. That's like clear sarcasm. That LA police are all on Jay's payroll, and it doesn't stop with LA, but you're not ready to hit that part. - You're like, that's it, it's a delay. - Come on, man. The Mexican guy who stabbed Tory, who do you think paid him to do that? You already know the answer. Yes, Magda, who else would want to frame a Mexican at a time like this? You think Jay-Z would want to frame a Mexican? The three Supreme Court judges who denies Tory's appeal, all paid off by the Rock Mafia. The fact, listen, don't get me wrong, rock nation gets a lot of paper. Well, come on, guys. Come on, man. Paying off three Supreme Court judges type money. Jay also paid Trump not the pardon Tory, even though it's a state case. Trump can only pardon federal cases, with knowing Trump likes to be in the rules. Jay wasn't taking any chances. I can't keep these lies secret anymore. If this is my last tweet, you know who silenced me. I don't know what to tell you if you believe this. - That was a very last line. I can't keep these lies secret. - Hilarious. (laughing) Hilarious, Hilarious, definitely when I say trust me, even though I'm lying. - Shut up. - Remember when we did that on the pod? - 14 million views. - 14 million views. People doing whole YouTube think pieces like, come on, man. Listen, don't ruin your own credibility just because you hate Jay-Z and the Rock Nation so much. Like, come on, bro. And by the way, once again, Vlad does this all the top theme, Vlad, troll, Tory fans and Tory supporters like this multiple times. - I love a good troll, but I think it's an in bad taste because this is gonna bring so much problems to make. It's gonna be problems to Jay. Like just unnecessary noise that they don't need. - Well, no, it's gonna bring unnecessary problems to the people who continue to lie and spread these narratives. - Right. - Yeah. - That's who is gonna bring unnecessary problems. - Meg wants to put this shit behind her and now every time something like this happens, now she got to. - All she gotta do is turn her phone off. (laughing) - Like, all she gotta do is turn her phone off. I promise you, there's gonna be more problems for the people who continue to lie and spread these false narratives than it is the people that they're talking about. You know, don't block up that tree, that tree will fall on you. - Against the Canadian. - Asking the Indian, underscore, tax underscore. If you can decide where your taxes go, what infrastructure or department would you support? Fantastic question. Fantastic question. I think about this all the time because literally, that's what I would like to do. I have no problem paying my fair share of taxes. You see your boy, Mondani. Mondani is like, yo, the richies, they gotta pay their fair share of taxes. We're gonna have to start, we're gonna have to increase the property taxes on people. But what will that effectively do? Hurt the people who are already hurting? And he's aware of that, he knows that. But he can't control taxes because that's done up in Albany, which was always the criticism of, I think part of his approach, at least, which is if you're promising a raise in taxes on the wealthiest people, but you don't have the ability to do it, how you generate the revenue you need to do these social programs that are incredibly appealing to so many New Yorkers. And the issue here is we're gonna raise property taxes. So the initial thought is, well, rich people own property, so that's just gonna punish them and most people are okay with that. The problem is that anybody who owns property and rents it out, if they get an increase in their property tax, that will be reflected in the rent. And again, he can freeze rent for rent stabilized units, but that's only half the units in city. So then the other half are gonna, if he is even able to freeze the rents, 'cause I don't know if he has all the people on the board just yet that allow him to do it. I think they tried to stack the board before Adam's got out to people in right before you. - So it's a very tricky situation where, and this happens to politicians, where you can make promises on the way in and want to deliver those promises, but then when you're hit with the bureaucracy in front of you, you aren't able to execute those things. And people will be very upset. I imagine if they voted for him because they wanted rent to decrease. And now they're seeing an increase is the only way to balance the budget. - Yeah, I didn't like that. I didn't like you know governor Hoko had been said that she wasn't gonna tax the rich my thing is just because the rich Don't want to pay their face and taxes that doesn't mean that you should increase people's property tax, bro Especially because where's all this money going from all these tolls and shit like that all this congestion pricing and all of this shit Like that like where's all that money going even the money that they making fucking parking tickets and fines and all of that shit You can't sit here and tell me that the city of New York isn't making so much fucking so extra cash that they got a fucking People's property tax. This is the thing. This is the balance the budget. This is not even to enact the social programs that he wants to put in place Oh, I thought the social programs are included in the budget. No, like this is just to balance the Budget that's coming in 2020. It's the free I've been yeah, but it's like how about how about how about you know Cut some of these bloated budgets that we have in the city like to the police force. I've always said there isn't that's a problem Once you start cutting money from other people like now you create an enemy the last thing you want to do is cut the police force right now I ain't say cut the police force. I say cut the budget. I'll tell you why the money ain't going into police officers pockets If you told me right now that that money those hundreds and millions of dollars that they spend the militarized these police departments was going into police officers pockets If you're gonna increase the salary to police officers by all means do your thing. So that's not happening Well, what do you think is gonna happen if they cut the budget that the money will be cut from the police officers? Naturally, yeah cut the budget Fucking police officers don't need tanks in New York City. You don't want you don't need robots in New York You don't want New York you're not wrong, but you don't want you don't want New York City to not be a safe place New York is safe. You don't need because it's an incredibly high budget for the police force Most of the stuff they have they don't even use Charlotte, I'm telling you during I'd rather the money going to police officers pockets Well, I think that's a nice way during all the time when everybody was riding all that type of stuff and everybody was saying Fucking YPD and YPD went on about like two months of just not enforcing the law and then they said immediately Once again, I'm glad you said that Two months of not enforcing the law. They just stopped They need a robot dogs That's not what it's about what they just stop all I'm saying is you don't have to spend all of that money on unnecessary stuff for the police officers if you're telling me that you're increasing the salaries of police I ain't got no problem with it But militarizing the police buying all of this shit that they don't even fucking need Those are bloated budgets, not wrong, but they'll say like oh shit They cut the budget over time and we got to cut over time. So you're saying Free so you're saying this right here is not including the programs that he has Not yet. He's not trying to do those yet. The only one he's trying to do is the They care they care and that got approved that got approved, right? But you already found a way to balance that like One of the dopest things that he used to say before he was a campaign of a man I don't even know if he was running for me when he would say this when he would say He would say he would say don't he would say defund the police Which I never agreed with that that that statement But he would say refund so he was like he would say it's not about defunding police is about refunding social Services meaning putting out the social absolutely Yeah, but you have to understand if there's a person that is has mental health issues on the street And that person is acting in a violent manner. You don't want a mental health professional going there You want someone that actually has tactical training on how to deal with a violent person? No, I won't both well Yes, you could have both but the person that is there and restraining that person should be able to deal with violent people They shouldn't be like a social worker who's like tell me about your feelings a social worker is gonna be very helpful And don't get me wrong. I think that far too often we're putting people who have mental health issues Yeah, under the jurisdiction of police I think police shouldn't criminalize mental health issues of course of course now if people are doing criminal acts We have to find a place to put them right we have to find a place to put them where they're not in danger to other people around them They might not be aware of what they're doing of course, not jail. No, of course of course I think there is I get the problem that I'm trying to say here is that like far too often Police are the like the last stop so that's like the end all be all for all the problems right if you have a crazy person on the street That has a knife is trying to stab people, right? They're like, okay, please go get it if there's a cat in a tree Police go get it. Well, there's a lot of time is police go get it because of a person at the night You don't know if they have a mental health issue like you might see a person with a knife while in the street Now I realize that they got schizophrenia. I really doesn't they got my pole and you have a moment when somebody has a knife and they're attacking another person It doesn't really matter what the health issues are you need somebody that knows and is trained and how to stop them and keep the public safe I think most people would agree with that. I don't think you need money would disagree with that I agree there's a number in New York though that you call yeah, and it's another organization that goes out And I think then police come to back them up. I they just need support is what I'm trying to say and so look Support is money guys exactly. So there's no look the reality of the matter is Money going to stuff like that. Nobody is gonna say it but the reality of the matter is is they can talk all they want about Increasing taxes we must say this for a while increasing taxes on on the rich if they're not Taxing the people who really are rich. I'm not talking about doctors wealthy people I'm talking about the people that exist outside of the taxation system if they don't have a way to tax them They're not going to get access to the billionaires You can say all you want about hey, we need a tax a billionaires But if you don't have a way to effectively tax them because there's so many loopholes for them to avoid taxation You're just using billionaires a term and then that tax ends up going on doctors It ends up going on lawyers ends up going on all these other people which sure they can contribute more But should middle-class people upper upper middle class and like whatever rich people pay the taxes for the billionaires who find ways to skirt them No, they should contribute just like everybody. Yes, man, right? And the system currently is set up by those people so that they don't So for me when I hear somebody talk about taxing people or taxing the wealthy or taxing whoever you want I would really like them to have a prescriptive way to tax those people that can avoid those taxes very easily Go start with the billionaires and use motherfucking corporations away and pay and no God's in your tax People on absentee lists Yes, yeah, man, why don't we look at them? They don't even need money no more Exactly Like listen, you're already rigging the system so you can make money and then you can you know short stocks and you can you know Short futures for all these things because you have inside or knowledge You're connected with these people from other countries and you know things that those countries are gonna do before it already happens The moment against or bet with the the current or whatever it is so you can Exploit these horrendous situations around the world and you don't pay taxes at home for God damn and we got to pay taxes for you You should want to do that for your soul. You know you're going to hell the least you should do Pay your motherfucking taxes for somebody's social programs Why would they their whole life is built on the exploitation of people? Why would they not just keep employees go class and poor people they're already doing that to profit around the world Why would they not do that at home as well? I'm a daism you're absolutely right and I I really think can I just say one thing That's a drop you there isn't a soul in New York there would be against that there isn't a soul in New York left or right It wouldn't be against making sure people the Epstein class the billionaires Whatever you want to call them are paying their fair share and they can speak all they want about oh I we create this many jobs And oh, well, we're donating this much charity. Yeah, sure are you finding ways where you don't have to pay any income tax? Yes, you are and you shouldn't and you're achieving the people and you're exploiting hardworking people in the process and you should Absolutely pay and if that's the process and if that's what he's coming out and saying do you know how many people would support that around the country? There be other people around the country going I sure as hell wish my mayor would say that yeah I haven't heard him I haven't I'm not going to sit here and act like I've heard all of his rhetoric around this But if his rhetoric around this is like not don't just say the wealthy don't just say you want to tax the rich Like to that point tax the big corporate billionaires who aren't paying all taxes name name how about this tax the rich Tax the rich tax the rich tax rich more if you want to increase taxes if you really think that that would help a middle class and Poor people. I'm all for that. No, how about this wait a minute, but you better make sure that the Epstein class of people is tax as well Don't don't do the thing 69 motherfucking percent That's what 16 offers that's the class. I mean they owe us for years No, no, but whatever number you want to come up with my point is that don't posit these ideas that you know Aren't going to impact the people that you say you're talking about which are the billionaire class of people? And I just nobody gets paid a billion dollars a year in income is the point right now, right? Like all these guys the the fucking Steve Jobs was making a dollar a year at Apple and he was just getting paid in Apple stock Right like these guys don't make income so you can talk all you want about income tax But if you actually want to tax the Epstein class, you're gonna have to find a different way to do it and everybody would be support above it There's not a single American outside of that little group that wouldn't go that sounds like a fantastic by the way They're the ones that's opposed to it now, which is why I never fucking happen There we go, but now we're learning how the world works, but it just really it really is fucked up when we act like that is a Inequivalency right like well if we can't tax the wealthy would have to raise property tax it. No motherfuckers. Is this crazy? Taxing portion of your network But then you can't you know can that work in your room and you can't do any loophole network is a real But how about how to start with this how about that word for the real though sure because that fluctuates with the the value of the socks that you own and all these How about this one if you are taking out loans against your stock right which a lot of people do So they don't have to affect the capital and loans are tax free you're taking out loans against your stock You should have to pay whatever the tax rate is for that amount of money as if it's income if you're using your stock as collateral or this loan Then you have to pay the tax attack set now what will happen is most people go well shit. I'm not gonna take take a loan out here and then have to give half of it to the government, then I get the 50% of the loan. So then what you'll have to do, which is what everybody else has to do, is decide to either utilize the money that's coming in as income or sell similar stocks so you can pay off things. That's what normal human beings have to do. And they get to operate outside the system. And that is effectively, it's not, I guess you would say, it's not like unfair because it is the code and is the system that everybody lives within, but it puts them in a super advantageous situation. The wealthiest people already in a more advantageous situation to continue to expand their wealth. If he puts something out there like this, I can't found there wouldn't be unanimous support. I really can't. - Do you think that they should tax the revenue companies make or tax the money that they report? - So now you're in a tricky situation because they don't report it. - Well, no, it's not about reports. Like what revenue is. - Revenue is what you make, but then like a company profit. Like for example, Apple, you can't tax revenue, because that's kind of crushed a mom and pop business. That's kind of. - No, no, no, I'm talking about these corporations. 'Cause think about a company like Apple, Apple made it over $400 billion last year. And I think the profit was over $100 billion. - Right. - Like I think that you should tax that shit. You don't think like. - Are you sure that profit was $100 billion? - You think you pay perfect taxes? - Yes, they're probably when you look at it. - They find ways to offset their income. - They're in a way to offset their profit. Yeah, they always say, like Amazon always says, "Oh, we had a lawsuit." - Again, my concern. - Oh, see, that's even great. The Apple ain't reported for its 2025 fiscal year, about $416 billion. So that's the total amount of money Apple made from selling products and services before expenses. The net income profit was $112 billion. This is the profit Apple kept after subtracting costs, taxes and expenses. You're not paying a fucking taxes. - Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So. - Well, I don't think you can. My concern about taxing people who are just on revenue and clearly there are ways. - Corporations, they're not people. - Corporations. But I mean, like when a mom and pop store opens, they incorporate these that's advantageous to incorporate when you have a small business, like WTF studios. It's gonna be harder for those businesses to grow and now you're gonna actually put the big corporations in a more advantageous way. - Well, I'm talking about the wealthiest amongst us. I ain't talking about the mom and pop. I'm talking about the people we're talking about right now. These huge corporations who don't pay their fair share in taxes already. - My feeling is like, tax the individuals. Like, 'cause they're obviously making money. And that's why they pay us to hide it, say again. - Hit Tim Cook up. Hit him all up. But they make their money off Apple. They're able to hide their money and not pay these taxes and report what they want. Like, because they're hiding behind these businesses. - Here's the thing. - They take a loan off of their stocks. So it's like, that's why it doesn't come up as income because it's a loan. And then they just live off that loan. - Oh, shhh. - That's it. - That's what I was asking. - You're not living right. You think you're in the files. - You're in the fucking files, bro. - Yeah, it's good. But then, so yeah, so that money isn't alone, but the money that they have in the stock market can just make money. So now, whatever the interest rate, they still made money on top of that. So it's like, they're living off free money pretty much. - And paying their growth. - Tax the motherfuckers, man. - Listen. - But they should find someone way smarter than us. - They should find some way smarter than us to take advantage of it. - To figure out what we're saying. - Exactly. - Call we're saying the taxes fucking well. - It's a good fairly. - And to the guy's earlier point, I have no problem spending, you know, I pay my taxes, of course, but I would love to know exactly what my tax dollars are going. I would love to be able to choose what my tax dollars are going. - You're a Mr. 200 million. You got to find ways to not pay money. - I don't know why people keep saying that. - Can I say something real quick? Just hypothetically, right? Just hypothetically. I just want y'all to know when people hear numbers. - Okay, that's about numbers. One of me use them. But people would talk about numbers, right? - Yeah. - Whatever you hear, always remember that is half whatever you hear. - So first they tell us men lie, women lie, numbers don't. Now we got a number out of numbers. - No, no, no, no, no. - No numbers don't lie, but there's new ones to numbers. Like, let's just use, who's the last pass? What play to get to be country? - Charlotte. - God. - All right. - All right. - So let's just say somebody just signed the max deal. I'm just going to say somebody signed the max deal and say it's $100 million, right? Dependent of what state they're in. They're not in Florida, they're not in Texas. 40% straight taxes, right? Then you got agents, then you got managers, then you got lawyers. So I know it sounds good to just throw out a number, but there's a lot of individuals that get paid. One thing you will never hear me say is $100 million, they ain't no money. I'll never say no shit like that, okay? I will never be like, any of these athletes or any of these people, see on these platforms who say things like, that's not such a no money. - Guys, you made me, I think we owe Charlotte a man of apology. - Here we were thinking he made a lot of money, turns out he only made $100 million. - I didn't say anything, I didn't say none of that. - No, you're right. I think the internet needs to apologize. - I'm just a guy. - I'm not gonna ever be the person. - Got barely made any money. - Yeah, you broke his mother's mind. - We're not talking about you. - You're talking about real rich people. - He has to pay taxes. - Oh, he has to pay taxes. - Yeah, he's seen nothing after that. - But it's not even going to end well anymore. - But isn't that the reality of life? By the way, the Forbes magazine is actually on news stands right now. (laughing) - No, the print. - Oh, you ain't shit. - No, the print is on news stands right now. - The digital, it was the digital that came out of this thing. - They go, they say, eat the rich. - They go, come and have to you go. - Listen, I'll take care of mine. I'll take care of people. I show a lot of people love, by the way. All I'm simply telling you is the reality of life is, these, I don't know why everybody else would lie to people, but the reality of life is, when you see certain numbers, automatically know that it's a lot of places that money goes. And a lot, multiple of it is to the IRS. If you're doing it right. - Well, no, no. If you'd be an honest, most of it's, if you'd be an honest. - If you're being dishonest. So a person in your situation is like one of these guys with the Epstein class of people, they would find a way to hide that money. They would find a way in tax loopholes and not pay any of it. - That's right. - And what they do is, they create certain tax loopholes to incentivize investment in certain companies where you don't have to pay taxes. So then there are these guys that make these massive, massive payouts when a company goes public, whatever, and they don't have to contribute anything in tax because they invested in this startup before it was valued at $50 million. Therefore, there's no taxation on the exit. There's all these peculiar little rules that benefit people and not the rest of us. And it's probably infuriating. And that's not Charlemagne. He's broke like the rest of us, you know, he's in that. Charlemagne makes between like $50,000 and $100 million. (laughing) Like, you know what I mean? Like, we got to feel bad for him, you know? - Well, I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you why I despise words like broke. I'm so rich in spirit. Like God is no way. - And the pocket. (laughing) - I hope they taxes spirit. - I hope they taxes. - I'm so rich in spirit. - I hope I'm done in the spirit. - God is with me. - I don't even live in New York. - I'm done in the spirit. (laughing) - I'm so rich. - I tone you. - You know, budget needs to be balanced with taxes. - Spirituality. - Spirituality, right? - There's 20% of what they don't. - Spirituality. - In New York City, okay. - Jersey come from-- - They gotta raise that toll. - I work in New York, though. I work in New York. - Oh, that's right, you work in New York City. - You gotta pay money on the, you pay taxes. - I pay New York City taxes. A lot in New York City taxes. - There we go. - I paid a New York City taxes for 15 years now. - As you should. - Okay. - I have no problem with it. New York has been great to me, okay? I drive in the city sometime and turn on Empire State of mind. Just because. - I love it. - That shit slaps, all right? - I love New York City, New York City. They say, if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere. I'm sure that's the case. (laughing) - I don't know any other experience. Hey, God, I can only tell you my life. I don't know any other experience. Andrew, did you make it here? - I would say your life is the opposite. - Why? - Because you made it nowhere else until you made it in New York. You right? I mean, this is fun. - No, you're not fired from every other job. - Hey! - And then New York is right. - That's right, you know what? - That's right. - This guy's little talented. - I, I, I, I, I, you know, started in South Carolina. - You were built in New York, bro. - I started in South Carolina. He's like, you know what? I'm gonna bring, I'm gonna take you to New York for a little bit. You wanna sit here with the, one of the greatest radio press rallies of all time. You wanna sit here for a few years, and I'm gonna take you to this hard-known city called Philly. When they'll boot this shit out of you, come shoot you at the radio station and they want to. And then I'm gonna bring you back to New York City so you can do it, you know, you need, needs to be done. - Look at God. - Look at fucking God. New York City has been great to. - Greatest city in the world. - Hey. - I have no reason to dispute that. I would look like a complete hypocrite. - Also, you don't have any property here. - None. - So. - I don't property in Jersey. - Yeah. - But I pay a lot of taxes here, though. I pay a lot of taxes in New York City. - They just hired a, they just selected a progressive in Jersey, didn't they? - Uh, Governor Cheryl. - No, there's one. - Another person that just won an election in Jersey. - I don't know. - I don't know. - Yeah. - Here's the crazy thing about New York City. New York City will always be a part of my story. - Yes. - It's, it's, like, forever. Like, as long as they remember us. - They will remember us. - They will remember us in New York City. Whether it's working with Wendy, whether it's breakfast club, whether it's brewing, it is, We are New York Staples. - No way. - You should give like 100 million endowment in New York City, just pretend. - I'm just sure I'm gratitude. - Hey. - I'm sure I will one day. 'Cause today, hey, I'm sure I will one day. If you think this is my last time on a Forbes cover, you bugging me. I'm just letting y'all, I'm just letting y'all know, I'm just letting y'all know what God has planned for me. Okay, and you know, like I always tell y'all, what you're building only benefits you, it's not big enough, okay? I'm creating jobs, okay? I probably created more jobs in New York City than most politicians, right? That's all I'm simply saying. I've done my part. You've done your part, Alice. Andrew, you've done your part. We sitting in fucking heavy studios. - Hey, man. - Alice, you got WT, you got employees. Andrew, you got employees. I got employees, but several different verticals. We are doing our part. That's all we can do, man. All we can do is be putting certain positions and you know, try to help the next person. I don't think that's so difficult. - Hey, man. - Is that difficult? It's not fucking difficult, man. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, I think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit you're right too. It's the brilliant of this podcast. Thank you for listening. - Hey.