Building a Legacy with Ayesha and Stephen Curry

We're kind of like in the same circle of friends, but all our conversations in high school are about either church or where you're going on Wednesday or Canadian candy. It was like talking about sweet tooth stuff. So no, it was no, no, no, no. I don't know if I didn't have any game or if she was nervous or like vice versa and like need of one of us really kind of it was just, you know, I feel like this is something that gets misconstrued. Okay, let's clear it up. This episode is brought to you by Chase Home Lending and Theraflue. Well, it's been a while since I've seen you. It feels like a whole year. Yeah, you're doing okay? Doing fine. That's good. You look good. I feel good. Have you been losing weight? Is that what I see or is that just a big jacket? No, no, no. I've actually remember the last time my knee was bothering me. Oh, yeah. It's all better so I can do more stuff, be more active, get my workout in. That's good. That's good. And then I'm coaching. So yeah, running around with these little children. And how many teams are you coaching now? So I'm coaching Aaron's eighth grade team. What's the name of their team? Junior Highlanders. What does that mascot look like? It looks like a guy with big sideburns dressed in a kilt. Oh, you can't laugh at that. That's a serious mask. It's like, so what's his story? Is he a Sherpa or something? No, he's more like a Scottish man. That's with him. Help me out. The kilt. That's the kill. I'll do some research. Please, please. We are going to find out about the Highlanders. And I'm sure all the folks in Mekwan will be reaching out to give you information because I want to know they will. So you've got the Highlanders and then I'm the the assistant coach for the high school team, which are the actual Highlanders. They're not called senior Highlanders. They are the Highlanders. And they happen to be playing right now. So so you're missing the game? Yeah, but that's okay because we have a it's a good excuse why coach Robinson is absent. And the whole team will be ecstatic and I'm very excited because see you know these two and I'm just meeting them for the first time if you can believe that. I realize that you hadn't well, I mean, I worked in the NBA for five years and I would come out before the games when we would play Golden State and I'd see him doing his workout. And I always wanted to go introduce myself and say, you know, I'm Michelle Obama's brother, but I didn't have the nerve to interrupt his workout. I'm looking forward to talking to Aisha because I probably other than them, I'm the only person who's been the international spoke at this table. Oh, you've been to international smoke. Oh, yes. All right. Okay. Well, let's let's bring them on. Okay. Let me give a proper introduction. I will do that. All right. So Stefan Curry on and off the court legacy is underscored by transformation and innovation. He is a four time NBA champion, 12 time All Star, New York times best selling author and Olympic gold medalist. And and and now I have to say he's like an he's an actor because did you see goat? I sure did. That was fun, wasn't it? But the real the real star of the couple is the star of the couple is Aisha Curry. My girl. A renowned restaurant tour chef, two time New York times best selling author, actress, producer and CEO of sweet July skin. Her accessible approach to cooking has made her one of the most sought after experts in food and lifestyle. So without further ado, please welcome Aisha and Stefan Curry. The curries are in the house. What's going on? Oh, thanks for being there. Absolutely. Thanks for being here. I love it. Good to see you. Come on in. Welcome to IMO. You don't even have to move the chair. I usually have to scoop the chair. Well, welcome you guys. Thank you for having us. And take it the exciting. You all got busy lives, but you're here with us and we are grateful, excited. Aisha and I are text buddies. We are because we you were you're too busy. I'm just too busy. You know, I know we've become friends, but sometimes I'm still teetering on the line of I don't want to say too much. I know. And I tell you it's like, I'm not that nice. So if I don't want if I don't want to talk to you, you're like, I won't respond. So I will, I will not, but she goes me sometimes. So I do not. That's not true. That's not true. She text me back right away. But we've gotten to know one of the other on so many different levels. Baroque loves you to death loves you both, but excited because we're partners. Yes, we are. You know, and our wonderful new venture, Plezzi, Plezzi nutrition and Stefan and Aisha, you guys are the key behind the formulation of our new hydration drink. So so glad to be working with you on that. And I want to just start by asking why? What makes you excited about Plezzi? I know what makes me excited, but sure. So I think for me, it was our kids. 100% so our kids really gravitated towards all of the samples when we were doing the sampling. And we looked at each other and they were like, no, they really like this. And then we started to try and we were like, wait, we really like this. And then when you have something that can be for the kids, it can help you on the court. And then if you mix it with a little tequila, it's nice. Mixer. Okay. So that that really was the key component for us was what did our kids love it. 100% and to that, like the energy we got from them, obviously our first conversation with you about how much time energy was put into what was in the bottle in the can. The roadmap of, you know, a full scale offering from, you know, nutritious, or nutrition standpoint. And then now with hydration being a key focus, exciting to bring it into the world of sports in the way. But there's such a much more educated, you know, kid and family consumer now in terms of what's going in the bottle that obviously the taste has to be great. But we're trying to check all of those boxes. I think, I mean, we're all biased, but I think we, we promise that I would say you're not biased because the Robinson boys, I've got 16 and 14, both play hoops, play others, they play sports. When Mish sent us a case of it, I was like, no way they're going to drink this because they don't like other hydration drinks. And they were like, whoa, what is this? And it was gone in a week. So we can't keep it. You know, to you guys, speaking of kids, y'all got a lot of kids. We have a lot. We have a lot. We have a lot of kids. It's a blessing. It's wonderful. But yours are closer in age. So it's- Yeah. Although you got that baby outlier. You do. That he is the outlier. He's a year and a half, three and three and three and then- Yep. Then six. That's a big gap. So high school and diapers, right? So now, given the way- so you're fed, you're both come from multiple sibling families. Did you always want to have a lot of kids or did this sort of just happen organically or- I'm sure it happened organically. That's like- That's a good crick. Do you- Do we have to start the birds and the bees? No, I'm just going to say. Growing up, I never saw myself there. But as an adult and like when we fell in love, we always said three. Then we had the three. Yeah. And then we kind of got that itch and we were looking at each other like it feels like someone's missing. It's like we would get in the car and be like everybody in here and feel like- Someone wasn't there. There was more of the conversation. On the daily of just having like, do we want another one? And I was more- if I remember Greg- I was more on like, yeah, let's do it. But then, you know, we could flip too. Yeah, with yeah. Every six months, we'd be like, I'm off of it. Because, you know, the schedules are crazy and the juggling of the three kids. And then she had some rough pregnancies too. Yeah, it's a part of the consideration of putting her through, you know, something that's, you know, severe even with our third- That was the name. Kid, Ken and she had hyper-emphasis, they were pretty much the whole time. And so that was another consideration. And just so people know, because we can do some education on that front. Because that, you know, more and more women, particularly women of color. Yes. Can you talk about- do you feel comfortable talking a bit about, of course? Yeah, I feel like with the four kids, I may be in well-versed. Yeah, but yes. But I, you're speaking to the hyper-emphasis. right? So it's interesting, especially as a black woman within our community, it's oftentimes the pain, the sickness is kind of written off within the healthcare system. And so women will go in and won't be taken seriously because they'll look at you and be like, well, you don't look like you're in pain or you don't look like something's wrong. And when you say pain, what was, what was constant, on top of the dehydration, just constant sickness, it's essentially morning sickness all day, amplified times 10. And sometimes your blood ration of the pregnant throughout the entire pregnancy up until delivery. And so I wouldn't encourage like any women who are expecting if you're feeling that way to just continuously advocate for yourself. And if you're feeling, if you're feeling like something's not right, keep going back until somebody listens, because it's not great to sit in agony like that. And Stefan, how were you a support in this? What did you do? Especially because with our third child can, and we had the blessing I was most of our, all three of our babies are July babies. So our season, to express that last six weeks, eight weeks, I was fully available. And then throughout the season, you're trying to be as supportive as I could in the sense of if she, she had to go in and out of the hospital countless times, especially for, for with our, with our last one. What's the unit called? ANC part. Yes, the ANC part. But I was trying to, obviously, just be as supportive and understanding of if I need to pick up some of the other, you know, responsibilities, especially with the kids, or that was my, I know it's hard to say it, because you were going through agony, but it was my favorite part of it. And since she could be as focused on taking care of herself and, and Baby Kaya at the time. And I could kind of, you know, be there to, you know, support and take care of and run the, you know, kids around, make sure that they knew what was going on also, but we're going to let my, you know, handle this. And she's going to be good. And she's in the right place. So that's the hardest thing I know. You feel like you're always like missing out or like one of the kids has a, you know, they all want attention, right? And they don't deserve the attention, but it's hard to kind of manage all of that, especially through her, her, her last pregnancy. I was trying to do my part there. But the hard, but I have no idea what hyper-event just feels like, but I've seen her face, I've seen her go through it. And it's like, to the point of that amplification, when she said, morning sickness, time stand, I, I saw it up close and personal. What's your community of support, period, right? I mean, you guys are so busy. And with a season, look, I had a husband who was in the state legislature and then DC, right? And it's almost like a season. He could come home on the weekends, right? But we had our kids in the midst of that. And Barack was really hands on. I mean, the one reason why I always say, like, I slipped in those early years because we would divide up the time. I mean, I would go to bed at eight, you know, or nine, do that last feeding and then pump. And I would just go to sleep, cover my ears and just let him have the night, right? Up until the last feeding, because he stayed up late. How, how did you guys? How do you guys manage that in as kids? So with our first three, I, and people would advocate for me and be like, get some help, get some help. I had this strange sense of pride and this need to prove that I could be super mom. Yeah. And so I didn't do those things. And I was exhausted. And then with his line of work, his games go so late. No one day to day schedule. He also, he's a bit of a deep sleeper. He said, Barack was up all night, right? He was like, oh, that wouldn't be me. So like kids are screaming. And he's like, no, yeah, literally. Yes. Yes. Oh, man. So then you just kind of give up on that. And so it was, it was, it was, it was me on a waking mind. I paid for it though. I paid for it like mentally and physically. So then with Kai Kai with our fourth now, I said, you know what, we are so fortunate to have the resources to have a little bit of help. So actually got this time around. Had a night nurse to get those six hours and we're then winkle over here. And then I yeah, in our last minute, I think it's different. I decided to go to the Olympics like four weeks after Kai was born. Yeah. Yeah. Into the support. She did. She did. Our family is starting to plan for trips this summer. Aside from all the basketball travel you've heard me talk about, we want to make time for a family vacation. And we're hoping to travel internationally this year, maybe Spain, France, or Italy, because we really love to eat and Italian food is our favorite. We also want to invite our older children and their families to come with us. 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Learn more or help someone apply for the fund at FairFlu.com/righttorecover. When I was doing my research, I heard the story of you all meeting which I had never heard. Can you talk a little bit about you guys meeting first as youngsters and then how you remet because I have some questions. The long story short is in high school, I lived in Charlotte and her family had moved down to Charlotte from, she's from Toronto to start high school. And so I'm a year older and we went to the same, ended up going to the same youth group at the same church, such a church of God in Charlotte, North Carolina. Shout out. Yeah, past 11/12. We ended up eventually getting married there and he officiated our wedding so it was awesome. full circle. But we met there. We're kind of like in the same circle of friends. But all our conversations in high school were about the either church or were you going on Wednesday or Canadian candy? So no, no, no, no. I don't know if I ain't having a game or if she was nervous or like vice versa and like need of one of us really kind of it was just, you know, I feel like this is something that gets misconstrued. Okay. Okay. Let's clear it up. So no, it's not that you didn't have game. I was 14 years old. Yeah, that's so that's make a difference. That is 14. Yeah, no, I'm putting you in. But did I think you were a cute, absolutely? I also heard you had a no athletes rule. That is true. So to tell me about that very beautiful comment also on my part. It's so okay. Okay. Thank you. Why is that disrespectful? I had very text book. Maybe misconception. I kind of frame like movie plots. Movie plot ideas of athletes. I was a theater, a theater nerd. So I think I was protecting my piece and just I don't know the teacher. It was an activity one day in class and she said write down what you would look for and it was in capital. Like God is funny. It was in capital letters and my parents found it way down the road. I want to say like maybe eight years ago in an old boxing. They were like, look at this. And I'm like, oh, wow. It's embarrassing. But yeah, I don't know. It was just an activity in class that she had us do. But I definitely did say that. And I think I did think that too because I remember our first, he calls it a date. It was definitely that he calls it a date. I worked. I worked. I was in LA. I came out in my sophomore year in college. I came out out here and I knew she had moved out here to pursue acting. So I hit her up when I was on my way. It's me and my dad coming out. And I actually ditched my dad. We were supposed to like go to this party. There was like this dinner in this party. But I told him, hey, I'm going to hang out with Iisha. You cool hanging out here. I thought I was going to be going like two hours and come back. And then it was in the rest of the night. She picked me up and the after events she had out here and we rode around Hollywood, like all the tourists, these stuff you can do in LA. So stuff. And we always think about 100% 100%. Really? We don't really talk that much when I went to college. Right. You know, back in the day, the Facebook message type thing. Were you shy? Oh, for sure. For sure. Would you say that? Iisha, did he? He didn't come across. I'm shy. And I'm an introvert. He didn't come across that way at all. What was he? What was he? Was he Mr. talking charisma? He talked a lot. Super competent. Very charismatic. Very knowledgeable about what? Just something to say about any subject matter. He could he was he could hold a conversation really well, but he was funny. And I think that that was the most important thing because going into us hanging out, we had never really hung out before. And so going on our own. And so going into that day, I didn't know who I was picking up. I picked him up in my 90s. Yeah. Yeah. And I I didn't know who I was going to get. And it was the second he got in the car. It just felt like we were best friends. And we've literally been together since that day. That's cool. Shut out to us at 2008. When over the course of the date, Iisha, did you feel like? There was a moment when I mean, we were two young kids. So we were just doing it was silly. When we were looking for the donuts. Oh, yeah. And the typical. We were looking in cop cars, see if they had donuts and the and I think the way that we were laughing with each other and how we just got a kick out of such a ridiculous situation. I was like, Oh, my gosh, I really like him. But I didn't this is another thing that gets misconstrued. People for some reason think that in the past, I've said that he wasn't my type. Yeah. But what I was saying was I didn't think I was his type. Yeah. Because this was Mr. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. And so I kind of sold myself short and thinking like, oh, there's no way. He must just like me as a friend. I'm sure. So I want you to take that. I'm glad. She left the door. I'm glad I didn't get friends. I was, I was, I'm, I'm, I'm half the same. It's time it takes her to call. She picked up the phone. Yeah. I was a full-core friend. After that day for yeah. Yeah. Yeah. See, we, we, we, we guys know that y'all in charge. So, when I finally realized that that was the direction it was. I verbalized that to him that I was confused because I'm, if there's one thing I'm going to do, I'm going to speak my mind. Yeah. But he looked at me because he had come to my house for two weeks straight at the time my parents house. So then to play. Yeah. You think I've been coming over here every, every night for the past two weeks to play video games with your brothers. I was like, oh, it's like that. That makes a lot of sense. I'm glad it all happened. Those are the days. For sure. It's a beautiful kind of reconnection at that point. Yeah. Well, it's, it's really interesting to hear that story and then see you guys now with all the stuff you've got going on. Kids, businesses, you know, you're still playing. You're doing your thing. Everything. All the stuff. And you guys feel like at least it's my perception from the outside. Look at him that you work really well together. Can you talk about that relationship now? How that's evolved given how you met? Well, for my life, the biggest thing is we've learned each other as we've gone through, you know, even when things get a little rocky or, you know, as obstacles you have to go over, people feel stressed out or overwhelmed or whatever the case are. We're, we're always working towards the same goal of being there for each other. And I think that's been such a rewarding experience through these 15, you're almost 15 years of marriage. And, and also acknowledging like, you don't know everything either. And you're still learning, you're still learning, you're still growing. And, and trying to have humility through that. I think we try to also approach all of this from like a, it's just us mentality and realizing, like even with the kids, the kids are going to grow up and they're going to leave us. And so we always come back to center like with each other and even with all of like the business. And yes, we're going to try to make an impact. We're going to try to, to do decent things in the world. But at the end of the day, all of this is so fleeting. Yeah. And so making sure that we at the center of it all realize that it's, it's us in this together. We've vowed to do this together from day one. And so as long as we keep that, I think, I think that's kind of what's kept us going. I love that you are plain spoken in life. And sort of like me, but sometimes, you know, you're, you're stating what feels like the obvious sometimes in life. And then people interpret that the wrong way, right? And, you know, I love your vulnerability and your honesty because I think that's what helps people. You know, it's like, it's one thing to be hashtag relationship goals. But it's another to tell the truth about what it takes. And I tend to do that when I talk about the challenges of marriage and that it's not all that. It's like, I love my husband. I like my husband, you know, but we also want to be a part of helping couples understand that it does take work and it is hard, even in the best marriages. Can you talk a little bit more about that? Knowing that this is a safe space of not judgment. Everybody understands humility and blessings. But it takes work. And so you don't want to give up on something when it starts to get hard in the way that it's naturally going to be. Yeah. I think anything great takes work. Yeah. So I agree with that. I think we're living in this age right now. Everybody wants to romanticize everything. And that's a beautiful thing. But I think it's unrealistic in marriage at times because growth is inevitable and change is inevitable. And I think that's a beautiful thing. Like if you expect it to stay the same for 15, 20 years, that's so sad. It's sad. There's a problem. So we don't run away from the tension on the daily of like again, I think I heard somebody say like neither one of us can quit on the same day. As a philosophy of understanding it, you should know your significant out of the best and understand you know when they might be and they might need a low pick me up or you to carry a little bit more of the low advice. So I said I subscribed to that philosophy but also like the tension in the daily like we try not to run away from it. You run towards it because you know that that's going to help you get to that next level of togetherness or just the seasons of life that kind of come at you. And so for us, if you feel like some of your marriage is not perfect, you're probably right and that's okay. Nobody is here. Nobody is here. How are. Let's talk about how you're raising the kids. You know, the values, how you're thinking about what kind of people you want them to be. Are you parenting the girls differently from them, the boys or babies? No, there's an issue then, with the two older girls and two younger boys. I'm grateful that the girls arrived first because when the boys get to the girl's age now, I feel like you'll be done playing and it's very important to me for them to have him around more. Very important. And so I'm just grateful that that's how it worked out. But it is. Parenting is hard. Like we're sure it is. We're especially now we have a 13-year-old. She's going to go to high school next year. We're doing the whole high school thing. Are you scared of her yet? She's scared right now. And I'm in it. I'm in it. I'm in it. I'm in it. I need you, the strictest couple of years. I'm here. It gets because sometimes, well, Barack got scared. He got scared off Sasha. The feisty was very scary to her father. There's a lot of scoreboard washing going on in our house. I call it where, why can't I do that? And how do you have to parent each one a little different? As a whole, they get more they notice that. You know, it means something at all these stages, to just have these honest conversations where your kids can disagree with you. They can point out stuff because it's like, I think that gave us the confidence that when you're out there, at some point you've got to advocate for yourself in life. Oh for sure. And if you don't feel like you've been taught to advocate for yourself at home, like, then who, you know, where do you get the practice of speaking up for yourself and demanding a level of respect and then how to do it? You know, all of that stuff is practice at home around the table, which doesn't require any money. You know, it doesn't require my parents didn't go to college. They didn't, you know, they weren't wealthy and connected, but they had just a baseline common sense and a respect for us as humans that just sort of came through and I say that to all parents because we sit here very privileged, right, with resources and so on and so forth. But we weren't raised, we were raised in a little bit of apartment with a mother that stayed home and a father that was a pump in your near at the water filtration plant all his life. I think he never had rarely got a new car. You know, we went on one family vacation every year and drove to this Duke's happy holiday resort. We did not have resources, but we had parents who fundamentally liked us in the same way that you build that like relationship in a marriage. It's like your kids have to know that you like who they are truly for themselves. This episode of IMO is brought to you by Indeed. You know, I've been thinking a lot about careers lately, especially in a job market like this. 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I'd say over the past four three four years. But I'm doing I'm doing really well. I feel like I'm kind of in a I don't want to say the word smooth sailing because I don't want to jinx myself in the parenting department. You'll be doing that and healing 60. The parenting situation is feeling really good. You know we had our fourth and so I'm I'm feeling comfortable in my body again. I'm feeling more like myself and that's such a good feeling. And also like allows me to be a better parent in some strange way because I feel like I know who I am again. And so that's been really great. How do you carve out the space to take care of yourself in the midst of it all? I never used to do it and now I just make it a priority. I don't know how else to say it. I put it on the calendar. I make it a priority and I get it done oftentimes now even just forgetting my like my body moving and getting outside. I just bring the baby along with me and we get it done. But I find I have to like be outside multiple times a week. I notice the difference from the mental health perspective and so because you can be with four kids it's like you could be in the house forever and they have so much going on themselves. I know every time we talk to you all you all are in the car. The first meeting we had or the first call we had. We were in the back in the car. They live in the car. We were trying to go to soccer games and it was like we've got it. Brock and I go go to watch the game. We're in the we're at the soccer game. We're in the sprinter and the kids were so mad at us because they don't like when we bring the sprinter to school because it's embarrassing. Oh really? Are you kidding? Oh, it's so amazing. Oh, my goodness. I just want to be regular people. See, Austin and Aaron are like can we get a sprinter? That's until their parents come out of one. I mean, Malia and Sasha never wanted Brock to come to their stuff with the presidential motorcade. You talk about sprinter. Yeah. That's a different thing. I mean, they're just like that. Just don't call. Yeah. Don't come. What are those men on the roof with machine guns, but they don't they don't like this sprinter, huh? They don't it. How do you manage integrating into normal parent life? I know that was something that we had to work on. I mean, how do you how do you make your kids feel normal? I guess it's a challenge for sure. You know, worried about or at the like sleep over nights or you know, extracurriculars, especially with Riley, she wants to be a little bit more independent and can you drop me off here and do this and like meeting new parents and not making it a big deal but making sure there's boundaries around how we move so that you know, we feel safe and if we feel safe then it allows us to take that next certain necessary step. I feel like to allow your kids to explore, right? You want to be curious and just showing up. I think it's the biggest deal that you you meet people and we do try to in terms of like especially for sports activity school activities that type of thing where for our kids and seeing like that's how normal is a weird word, but yeah, that's a normal experience that we're going to be at your game. We're going to be loud yelling, going crazy. We're going to be embarrassing you after your your theater production performance. Yes, we do do that. We do all of that. Friedness. And celebrate them, right? That's I think we try to do that. The social part of it, there's challenges. There's considerations that we never thought we'd have to make or take to make sure, you know, you can let your kids kind of go out and throw out, but part of that to us against still learning because every year is so weird. It's all so weird. It is weird. I think we're doing a good job of allowing them to go very. I don't know how well did it to the point of. You know, it's all the it's all the same thing, you know, like the girls growing up, they didn't want people to come to their house, the White House, because it felt like it's not a normal house. And I was like, I guarantee you your friends want to come to us. They want to watch a movie in the movie theater. It's like, why would somebody want to come here? I was like, but they do. So it took them a second to kind of understand that it's not it isn't normal from where they came from in Chicago, but it is their normal. And I think it's like everything. Our kids reacted the way we reacted. So if we showed up special, if we just showed up and was like, look the other way, we're just here. It's not a big deal, you know, then slowly they followed suit. And I also found that the school environment followed suit, right? They meet you. Yeah, yeah. You know, you know, you'd hope so. Yeah, it's wonderful. And just watching kids develop, giving them what we can, it is a joy to go to practice every day with my old self and rickety bones, but it's really been a treat. You won't even be as old as him when I know you'll be able to get out there and show them something. I show them that I can shoot just absolutely absolutely. And then that's it. It's one of the one of the kids, wait, you should one of the kids asked me today. He was so, I mean, these are high school kids, right? He's a senior and he's like, Hey, coach Robinson, can you still get up there and dunk? And I felt I felt bittersweet. You know, it was nice of him to think that I could dunk, but not being able to dunk anymore was the bitter part. It's like, can you still jump? Yeah. And speaking of basketball, how did you guys decide to do goat? How did that all come about? Because your team was so good. It's kind enough to let us take a look at that. It's coming out today. I know we're dating this beer. It's out today. So good. Thank you so much. It's been a seven year journey. Oh, wow. Yeah, animation takes forever and then that initial process of working with the the sunny animation in the sunny studios. We had an initial meeting and then the idea of, you know, having an animated story that was sports related, then brought me basketball and in all animal world was kind of just a starting point. And my favorite part about the whole thing is there's good. It's something for the entire families of the comedy. It's high pay. It's high action. The visuals are stunning in the all animal world. And Aisha is the she's carol, the the the diner. Yeah. Yeah. Who's always looking out when you guys were sort of working through this. Was it always you were going to be in it as well? How did that come about? Because you all are darn right good. I was drafting over her because I've never done a voice acting and she's been acting her whole life. And so when we had the opportunity to do some of the characters and look at, you know, how are we filling out the team? And Lenny the draft was like opposite of me as a player and a person. He's like the layback kind of not really focused. It's just kind of there. He's been cast around the entire Roarball League. He's played for 10 different teams and 10 years. He likes music more than he likes Roarball. He wants to rock. He wants to rock those. He's a little bit more on the nose for Aisha's, you know, the culinary kind of connection for a carol, the diner. But that whole I don't know how you felt from the voice acting perspective. It was so much fun. It's so different from being on your traditional set. There's a lot that goes into the voice work. I wanted to have a different voice so bad. You wanted to completely change your voice. I gave them a sample and they looked at me after and they were like, just I think you're regular voice. I want to be like, you don't get in a pie or maybe have a Jamaican accent. They were like, no, you're regular voice. Thank you. Well, your regular voice was great. Congratulations. Way to go. Just another thing on the fast. How is it working together? I mean, I work with my husband sometimes. You know, I mean, you are essentially two principles. Okay. I mean, it's not like Aisha's your supporting cash. She's got her own thing. Maybe I should ask Aisha. Yeah. How do you break through the noise of him as you were working to assert what you want your vision to stay seen in it all? Because you have definitely done that. And I know it's more than a notion to do that. Yeah. I think that's an interesting question. Very multi-pronged. But I think do I and do I like working with him? Absolutely. I love it. We shot a show years ago called about last night and we had so much fun on set together. I think where it gets dicey for me is where I've I never want to feel like I'm inserting myself for like just being thrown into the mix. I think because I work so hard and sometimes I do feel like I have a point to prove. And so I like to be able to kind of stand on my own two feet sometimes. But I feel like he's always been so gracious about either bringing me along or hyping me up or like truly putting me on a pedestal even when I don't want to be up there. And he's been so great about just being such a support. to step for me and truly like my partner in crime. He's never been like stand back here or stand right here. It's always like, no, you're gonna stand right here with me. And I think that's been, that to me is very romantic. - Yeah. - So I love that he's always done that for me and been that person for me kind of my confidence when it's maybe lacking in myself. - And it gets easier over time. I mean, I've been saying this a lot. It's like, I'm 62 now. And it wasn't until my 50s that I felt like I could claim what I know. - I understand. - You know, and I think that may be a woman thing, right? I mean, men are encouraged to, you know, like you're a man at 20. It's like, you don't know anything, you know? I mean, you were the man. You both were the men in high school. You don't know anything, you know? But you're handed that, you know, you're encouraged to be that, right? Whereas us as women, we're always second guessing ourselves. And wondering if he doesn't really like me and us. We don't get to make the first move sometimes in life, you know? And I try to figure out what that is 'cause it's not that I wasn't confident, but it took me a while to be like, I know what I'm talking about. (upbeat music) I spent a long time as a basketball coach, and here's something that's true in coaching and in life. Everybody shows up motivated on day one. That part's easy. 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Cost of medication not included. Final pricing depends upon program selection. (upbeat music) - You guys are both so accomplished at such a young age. What have you learned from Aisha and Aisha? What have you learned from Stefan? - I've learned from Aisha. What true ambition and passion really looks like on a daily basis. And that's not just career wise. That's for your family. Like, she lives every day with her full self. And like, I know it's scary and vulnerable at times. Because you want to kind of protect yourself. And she puts herself out there. And I'm a little bit more reserved in that respect. And that fire, like I wish I had more of it. I can get there on the court and like, you know, you have those moments, but on a daily basis. Like, I'm a little bit more kind of even cute. And I wish I had that instinct. Like just, and she has that on a daily basis. And it motivates me just, you know, on when things can get a little drag or, you know, things aren't really going your way or there's not really a clear path to get what you want. Like that fire and that passion is a big deal. I definitely have learned a little bit from the way that she shows up in that way. That's, that's a lot from a guy's got four chances. That is different. Well, that's all he's got. No, I'm just messing with you, Stefan. I think I've learned from him on the flip side, or what I'd like, what was it? What I'd like from you? Learn from what I've learned from you. I think on the flip side of what he said about me, for me, he is, he is so even killed. And he can compartmentalize really big emotions very well. And he does know how to block out the noise. And so I've learned little by little, I think how to do more of that. Because like he said, I am, I'm very passionate and fiery. And sometimes it's works, but sometimes it doesn't. And vice versa. And then I think I've learned this unwavering work ethic. I've never seen anything like it, but it obviously manifests itself in how things work out for him in his basketball career. I'm like, tomorrow he'll be up 630, working on himself. When he doesn't necessarily have to. And so I've just year after year after year seen him do things when he doesn't have to. And then I see the results that come from that. And it's extremely inspiring. Oh my God. Yeah. Thank you. Let's bottle some of that up and sprinkle it over the van. That's very sweet. Thank you. I'm so proud of you. Stop, stop, stop. All right, we're going to do the listener question because the listener question will lead to a little more discussion. Yeah, yeah. So a question today is from Vivian in Raleigh, North Carolina. Oh, Vivian, shout out. I am the first of three children, two girls and one boy. It always seems I'm the mother of everyone. From my parents to my siblings, then to my spouse, into a year old. I recently lost my dad. So it's been very hard on my mom. She wants me to call daily and respond to all the texts daily. I love my entire family. And I want to be there for them. But I'm also registered nurse. And I owe it to my pediatric patients and their families to give them excellent care. I am working to go back to school to become a family nurse practitioner, a good medical school. I feel I am not enough. But my husband believes that I am smart, and I can do all things through Christ. I am also a precinct official. Thanks to your book. Now, they want me to take on more responsibilities and face gripping me. But I really want to do more. I was privileged to go canvassing with my daughter, knocking on doors. She was so excited about doing what Mrs. Obama did with her dad. My question is, how can I juggle all this absolute fly, be a great daughter, sister, wife, and the mom? I don't even know where to start. The first thing that comes to mind for me is like thinking of the cups and not these cups. But how they say you can't pour from an empty cup. And I think for women, I think that same is false, because generally women have many cups. There are many cups we're dealing with. And so my advice or would be your opinion, my opinion, yes, that's right. Would be, I mean, also, as women, we tend to ruminate on things when we're in a different situation, thinking about all the other things that need to go on. And so I think my opinion would be to realize, separate everything into these separate cups and realize when you're pouring into that cup, it's just that cup in that moment. And to try and tune everything else out and get to it when you need to get to it so that you can fully give yourself to whatever it is that you're focusing on at that time, whether it's at the hospital or with your mom or with the kids or whatever else it is you're doing. I think there will be so much peace of mind if you can just compartmentalize those moments. You had to applaud her for sure the responsibility that she's carrying for so many people that she knows and she doesn't know where she's beating on a daily basis at her work. Have grace for yourself too, I'd say too. Because those days where you don't feel like you're killing it, probably the days that you're killing at the most. Yeah, but it's also okay not to kill it. But having grace for yourself, I guess, is the biggest piece of. And hopefully she can set healthy. boundaries for herself as she goes to aspire for, was that mean? What does that mean? Like what? People should be able to support her and her, you know, endeavors as well. In the sense of like, I don't know how much her mom it reaches out. It feels like it's maybe a burden at times or maybe not, but if there's moments where she can have the space to go after the things that she wants to and she creates that room for herself, the boundaries out of people respect that and allow her to, you know, go pursue what she wants to and that it's okay, even if somebody else gets the short end of the stick for a day or a week or a month, that's that's kind of a, and it's not, it's not a bad thing. Actually, I think I read that in your first book and you said, say no, they will be okay and we'll move on. And that's exactly, yeah, just what I wrote down, learn to say no, yeah, well, and, you know, look, Vivian sounds like I say this a lot, she sounds like what I call a 120%, you know, like everybody around this table, like you don't think you're killing it when you were doing, I mean, it's like that extra percentage and you feel like, okay, now I'm putting it in when, you know, life can be okay, it's 70%, and sometimes at 40%, and at 30%, you know, I'm learning right now. Yeah, you're starting to learn and it's sort of a conglomeration of what we've all said. It's like, you can't do everything at 120%, and you can't, you can't and you don't have to, and you learn that over time, like maybe you can't be there for your mom in the exact way that she wants you to be there for her, and it's okay, right? Because maybe if you're not giving 120% to your mom and 40% at times, somebody else will come in. Yeah. But if she's trying to fill all the cups herself, you know, you know, there's no vacuum for need, right? If you're doing it all, and some people who aren't 20%, 120%, they'll be a 20% or a lot. She may be surrounded by other siblings that are just putting in 20% because Vivian's going to do it all. You know, if you don't need, say you need help, nobody is going to help you, you know? So I say do less, do less and learn to be okay with it. That's, no, actually, I was just sitting here thinking, I was just sitting here every time you say 120, I'm like, dang, people probably don't even see the 20. No, they don't. They don't even know what's there in here that's in your mind and heart and you're measuring yourself. Yeah. And people are like, you know, like you say no, and they're like, okay, fine next, you know? But I like the cups metaphor because people don't see all the cups you see, right? You see all these cups and they're like, ooh, those three cups, you're handling things. They don't even know you got six of them. Yeah. That's all that stuff. And props to you for holding it down, you know? It's like there are a lot of people out in the world who are trying to do it all. And hopefully this, you know, gives you some guidance, takes a load off. And they don't, don't feel guilty about, you know, looking out for yourself every now and then. Good advice. Okay. Great advice. What's next for the curries now, like there has to be, because we just talked about that, but I know we're looking forward to like not even projects, but just life. We have our 15 year wedding anniversary this summer. Very happy about that. Yay. Congratulations. But I have 17 there in the league, see having me more years on the court and hopefully it's not over too soon, but it is at that stage where you start to think about, you know, appreciate it every year because, but then after that, who knows, we're very bad at predicting the future. At least I am. I said, that sure is not going to be that crazy. Great. Great. Okay. I said that. It's been like that for 15 years. You got to hear about it for me. I'm the master at that. Yeah. I have a, I'm married to one of those. It's like, you just get so up to miss me. Right. Oh my God. I call it poor executive function. It's like, you know, it's going to take a lot of work to do that and everything is so big. Every, every idea is so big, it's just, it's just exhausting. Okay. Let me phone with though. Well, it's been great having you guys spend some time with us. Thank you so much. Absolutely. Thank you so much for dropping all the knowledge and being vulnerable and open. And Aisha, take care of yourself. Your sanity. I will. It's just noise. Yes. All right. The truth is right before you. And I will fight somebody. That's it. That's it. Don't. Thank you. That's definitely. Take your time. You don't have to leave soon. I got you. I got you. No, this has been great. Thank you. 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