Speaker 1The Telegraph This week we got some breathing space from the budget, not much else. Andy Burnham marked his first 100 days in office. Meanwhile, a one town has decided that recycling requires 12 separate bins
Speaker 2because apparently sorting your rubbish into 11 just makes you lazy.
Speaker 1I'm not a scientist, OK? But do we really think that if the people of Denbighshire in North Wales fail to separate their paper from their cardboard, it will be 10 degrees hotter next summer? What impact do we think the residents of Denbighshire have on global temperatures? But first, Tim, I think we'd better start with the week's most exciting news,
Speaker 2which is that it's Halloween. Three more days to Halloween, Halloween. Do you know what that's from? No, I've never heard that in my life. What's this? Silver Shamrock. I'll let people write in. If anyone knows what I'm singing there, let them write in. It's from a film. Well, thank you for that, Grandpa Simpson. Are you a fan of Halloween? I adore Halloween. I think it's great fun. And some people are miserly or miserable about Halloween, aren't they? They're scrooges about Halloween in the way that other people are about Christmas. And I don't get it. I just think it's great fun. What do you love about it? Do you go trick or treating? No, I do not, because I'm 44. Right, OK. And I think if a 44-year-old man knocked on your door, dressed as a werewolf with a bucket in his hand, well, that really would be a nasty trick, wouldn't it? I'd call the police.
Speaker 1Would it be weirder if he came with a load of his friends who are also 44-year-old men, or if he came with a load of very small children?
Speaker 2The latter. No, no, the latter is what dads actually do. They would assume you were the dad of all these children. I remind you, you have a son. That's a good point.
Speaker 1Do you do trick or treating? I've forgotten that for a moment there. No, we don't. Actually, in our area, in Kent, we actually have a slightly more civilised way of doing things, Tim. Let me tell you. What we have, you don't get kids ringing your doorbell. What you do, we have something called a Halloween trail, OK? And participating households will leave a pumpkin outside their house and perhaps, you know, some sort of Halloween-themed decorations, and also a big bowl that's just full of sweets. So you don't get bothered with kids ringing your doorbell and, you know, threatening to throw eggs at your house or whatever. They can just take the sweets. And most of the time this works very well, although there was one year where we set out our massive bowl of sweets for kids to take, just happened to open the door after about five minutes, totally empty. Like the first load of kids. Or maybe just a passerby, an adult. And there was a fox licking its lips. Or maybe a fox just emptied the whole lot into a sack and run off with it.
Speaker 2But anyway. I think that's the most English thing I've ever heard. Because part of the point of Halloween is to get to meet your neighbours, but Kent has redesigned it so you don't even have to knock on the door. No, there's no contact at all. A bit of seasonal passive aggression there.
Speaker 1You can shut yourself in and watch TV without being bothered by other human beings. So I think that's the way of doing things. I respect what you say about, you know, people being a bit Scrooge-y, whatever the Halloween equivalent of Ebenezer Scrooge is. But I'm afraid I'm a little bit like that myself, I must admit. But for only one reason. It's not that I hate Halloween. It's more that over the past couple of decades or so, I feel like it's really come to overshadow Guy Fawkes Night. Yes. Because when I was a child growing up in the 80s, Guy Fawkes Night was huge. And Halloween wasn't such a big thing. And, you know, Guy Fawkes Night was a wonderful thing with all the huge bonfire. And the guy, I don't ever see anyone making guys anymore. Penny for the guy. That seems like that's died out. So Halloween has come to overshadow that, which I think is a great shame. And I think it looks like there's another nail in the coffin for Guy Fawkes Night now. Because this week there was a story saying the government's considering plans to make fireworks up to 87.5% less noisy. OK. That's very Whitehall, isn't it? Lots of people complaining about noise pollution or their pets are frightened or that sort of thing. Which, you know, I understand. But, yeah, Guy Fawkes, that will kill off. Guy Fawkes Night for good.
Speaker 2A firework without a firework without a bang is a bit pointless, isn't it? That's the joy of it. Exactly that. But there you go. That's why kids love it. It recreates war, but without actual war. And I think it's sad to think of Halloween with all its ghouls and vampires overshadowing a decent British celebration of burning a terrorist to death.
Speaker 1There you go.
Speaker 2I know. Which itself has a sort of Halloween feel to it. It's all terribly pagan, isn't it? Very well. Anyway, from one source of horror to another.
Speaker 1Shall we talk about the budget?
Speaker 2In the days of Andy Burnham, and now we have a budget, breathing space was mentioned dozens of times. Yes. That always sounds to me like you're trying to get someone not to have a heart attack. Breathe into a paper bag. Breathe very steadily.
Speaker 1Breathe. Well, in that case, it seems a perfectly fitting metaphor for the state of our economy. And so that's fine. I think, you know, credit to whoever came up with it. That's good. That's good. There you are. By the way, did you see John Healy celebrating his budget triumph? I think you had that story. By downing. Pint. He's added 2p to the price of the pint, but he goes straight to a pub, which is brave of him, frankly, given what the landlords might do to him. Anyway, he's gone to pint. And there's a video of him downing a pint of beer in one go. And I have to say, I respect that because I've never been able to do that. I don't have the throat for it, I'm afraid. But I'll tell you, I once met a bloke when I was at university. I met a bloke who could down two pints of beer in seven seconds. And that includes a second for the changeover. He was just, it was like he was just effectively just tipping it down a drain. He looked like, straight down, next one, straight down. You timed seven seconds. That was amazing. I can't even do one. They should make him chancellor. I think so, yeah.
Speaker 2I don't know what became of him, but if I can track him down. But it wouldn't entirely surprise me if he is now a Labour MP, because I think almost everyone I went to school with is now. Andy Burnham was on Good Morning Britain with the brilliant Richard Meadley. And he said, what's it been like becoming prime minister? What surprised you the most? And Burnham said, what surprised him the most is people coming up to him in the street and saying, what's it been like becoming prime minister? And he was saying, good job. And of course, it would surprise you, wouldn't it? It surprised me. Because he thought he was doing a terrible job. But I love all this growth in your postcode stuff and all this sort of stuff. Good growth. Good growth in your postcode.
Speaker 1None of this bad growth.
Speaker 2As the Telegraph's Annabelle Denim has pointed out, there are like thousands of postcodes in this country. And the idea that every single one of them should have hope and growth is something. Well, we in my postcode have a tree which is just sucking the life out of the soil. And we cannot get this thing cut down. It's very ugly, very old. It's obviously dying. I'd like the prime minister to come and deal with that. That's what my postcode wants. There you are. Yeah. Get rid of your bad growth there. I think people should start sending in suggestions for their specific postcode. Really niche stuff. You know, there's a bit of graffiti here or we could do with a pothole being covered up.
Speaker 1Something like that. Well, speaking of postcodes, what's your council tax ban, Tim? Are you in line for this very exciting hundred pound windfall? I do get it. I do get it. It's the bans A to D. Yeah. You're getting a hundred. A hundred quid of your own money back.
Speaker 2No, I do. Because my flat is small and nasty enough for a qualifier. There we are. Great. Well, I'm in line for it as well. Oh, good. Okay. Will it buy my vote? I don't want to give away where you live. Time will tell. But it's a Kentish seaside town.
Speaker 1Gravesend. No, it's on the Thames. Oh, okay. There is a very small patch of sand, actually, in case the tide goes out a bit. Okay. I don't know if we can call that a beach.
Speaker 2And Gravesend, they have those sorts of bans there. Because I think I'm the only ban. And D in my area, whatever it is.
Speaker 1There you go.
Speaker 2Yeah. I'm surrounded by E's and F's. A forest of E's and F's. Anyway. And X's and Y's.
Speaker 1Anyway, lots of people, critics are saying this budget is terribly sort of meager and it's not really going to achieve anything apart from a hundred quid each for you and me. Yes. A bit sort of pathetic. But that's kind of been the mark of sort of Andy Burnham's first hundred days, hasn't he, really? He's obsessed with these, what he calls everyday fixes, which is sort of, I feel like to me, perhaps I'm horribly ungrateful and spoiled, but incredibly sort of small, meager things to. Help you save, you know, 2p off of. Yes. You know.
Speaker 2Yeah. Yeah. There's a vibe of austere Victorian biscuits about him. There's something of the rich tea about this behind Prime Minister. Although he can dance. We have seen a video, proof that he has actually danced in the past and he's pretty good at
Speaker 1dancing. This was a couple of years ago and he's doing the salsa to the tune of, I think, Live in La Vida Loca by Ricky Martin. Right. With a professional dancer. And I've got to say, I can't knock it. I think he's done a decent job there. I'm no position to mock because a very long time ago, I think it's almost 20 years ago now, this is burned into my memory, for a Telegraph feature, I was sent to go and be taught a dance routine by a dance troupe called Diversity, who had just won Britain's Got Talent. Okay. And there was a video of that, but I now wish I hadn't mentioned that because I know that our producers are going to be frantically rummaging through the files about it. I'm praying that it's been deleted. This is very old. Right. I wouldn't say it was an understatement. I think it was a sort of unalloyed triumph.
Speaker 2Right. I wonder where Diversity are now.
Speaker 1I haven't- I must admit, I don't know.
Speaker 2I haven't. In what ways were they diverse?
Speaker 1Were they- That's a good question. Because I have to say, they didn't look all that diverse.
Speaker 2Right. I was going to ask.
Speaker 1They were diverse from me. Yes. Right. Certainly in terms of dancing ability. I mean, as we all know, Diversity is our strength. I can tell you, I was not Diversity's strength. I was very much Diversity's weakness that day. They were all great. I mean, obviously, they were award-winning dancers. But I- I'm not quite at their level. But there you go. I can't wait to see that. They were very tolerant. Well, I hope you never do, because I hope they're not going to dig it out.
Speaker 2I was forced to go to classes when I was a boy. Really? Dance classes. Because my father was quite an accomplished dancer. Ballet? He could tap. He had shoes. Oh, tap. He had special shoes. And so I was made to go to classes to learn the waltz and the foxtrot and the cha-cha-cha. And I was terrible. Two left feet and all of that. But at the end, because it was a bunch of kids, all of whom had sweaty palms and were embarrassed to be dancing with each other, at the end, they would do- that song, Superman. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that one. Yeah, yeah. And there are all these 10 and 11-year-olds suddenly came alive. That was the one ruddy thing we could do
Speaker 1was Superman. Well, my school, which is in Edinburgh, we were all forced to learn Scottish country dancing from primary school. So, yeah, I used to do the Gay Gordons. Really? Yeah. Every Thursday around your place? It's been a while. I haven't done them for many years.
Speaker 2Now, if a disaster were to hit, which could include a flood, it could be a Russian cyber attack, it could be a general election, what would you stockpile?
Speaker 1Well, let me tell you, Tim, I've already been stockpiling. I've been following the government's orders to a T. I've got my baked beans, my bottled water. Yes. What else have we got? Some vegetable soup. My wife's vegetarian, so we've got to somehow keep her alive, I suppose. Right. You can eat her if you need to. Yeah. But I've noticed that ever since the government started telling everyone to prepare for some kind of, you know, unidentified disaster, people have, you know, started panic buying and shops are now running really low. Is it baked beans, bottled water, things like that? But also, weirdly, lavatory paper. Yes. Now, the government, as far as I'm aware. I think that goes hand in glove with baked beans. Did it? Or maybe, but certainly, I don't believe the government said start stockpiling heirloom people. That's what people have done. It's like lockdown all over again. It's a human instinct. That is what happened at the start of the first lockdown in 2020.
Speaker 2People were pushing trolleys.
Speaker 1The government did not tell anyone to stockpile toilet paper. And yet, that's what people did. And that's what they're doing it now. And it does puzzle me a little bit because I think I can see why you might need to stockpile water or, you know, or food or things like that. But how is Vladimir Putin going to halt our supply of lavatory paper? Can you explain that to me? Is he going to attack the lavatory roll plants, the factories? What's he going to do? He's going to blow them up. So we can't go to the lavatory or something. I mean, that is one thing that could defeat Britain. I did wonder if
Speaker 2the government was concerned about an ancient curse of the mummy. Oh, right. Because, of course, they do wrap themselves in bandages, in which case there might be a short supply of loo roll. Yeah. If SUTEC and his army of death cross the channel and storm the country, we might very quickly run out of two-ply. Hang on a minute. You mentioned that.
Speaker 1It's Halloween. All these people buying up the loo rolls, maybe they're not doing it for, you know, some kind of war or crisis. It could be to dress up. They're all just dressing up as mummies, right?
Speaker 2But the other possibility is if we are hit by one of these Greta Thunberg-style floods, I mean of water, not of Greta herself, then you could use the tissue paper to mop up the flood. Right. That would be. Everyone's doing their bit.
Speaker 1I know, it would. I would advise kitchen towel, if anything. Yes. Rather than the loo paper. It's a bit thin.
Speaker 2It's going to take. It's going to take some effort and it's going to create an almighty mess. But if that's what's going through the British people's heads, then I rather admire that. Of course, if this were America, people would be getting guns. Yes. That's the one that. I mean, I suppose it's a good thing that we don't do that, but I always think there's something slightly petty about our version of stockpiling because it is always just sad little things like baked beans. Baked beans, yeah. But back to rich tea biscuits, but they never say get a gun. Yeah. Isn't that what we really need when stuff goes down? Yeah. We need a gun.
Speaker 1Yeah, there you are. Not for the enemy,
Speaker 2but to protect us from each other.
Speaker 1Well, that's the exact thing because otherwise, if you don't have a gun, people are going to be breaking in and nicking all your baked beans or even worse, your loo rolls, right? Coming from a loo roll. Exactly. There'll be people who haven't thought to stockpile a loo roll. They've run out. What are they going to do? They're going to be waddling through your kitchen window probably with their trousers around their ankles and breaking in and running off with your loo roll. I tell you, after that. It doesn't bear thinking about it.
Speaker 2After that budget, with a state of inflation, loo roll could be the next currency.
Speaker 1It could very easily be that. By the way, I want to say, I have my doubts about this whole, you know, these threats of disaster stuff. I think this is all a cynical ploy from the government to artificially boost economic growth so that Burnham can then announce a snap election. Yes. If everyone is, you know, swarming the supermarkets, buying up everything, he can say, wow, look at the growth we've got now in quarter four. Isn't that amazing? Yes. You know, straight into an election campaign. Look, see, we've sorted the economy. Look at this. We're going gangbusters, as I think the Tories used to say.
Speaker 2And then when he wins, we will need the baked beans and the toilet paper and the guns. So it all makes sense. All this stuff may at some point have to be recycled, which brings us so neatly onto the next one. Very nice. Very nice. One council makes people put things in 12 different bins.
Speaker 1Yes. This is Denbighshire in North Wales. Right. The county council there have decided that, this is just your recycling, by the way. Yeah. You've got 12 different bins you've got to sort. And in fact, in case anyone doesn't believe this, I'm going to read out what all the bins are Please do. We've got bins for glass, metals, paper, cardboard, separate bins apparently, electrical items, textiles, soft plastic, food waste, garden waste, absorbent hygiene products, batteries and non-recyclable waste. Hang on, if it's non-recyclable, how is it recycling? Why are you recycling it? I just think, for poor people of Denbighshire, it just sounds like a full-time job sorting out this stuff. I mean, is the council paying them for this? I mean, shouldn't the council be hiring people to actually do this? Yeah. I feel, someone's not doing a job here. This is, by the way, this is why I hate self-service checkouts because every time I'm doing it, I think, they used to employ people to do this all for me and those people will be paid. I'm not getting paid to do this. Yes. Well, I think Tesco should be paying me. Yes. I'm giving them free labour. Yes. Anyway, so anyway, I hate that, but here's the thing. This makes this whole Denbighshire story even worse because there is an anonymous labour councillor who's spoken to a newspaper and attacked the local people for complaining about it and called them lazy, okay? And I wonder to read this out to you in four, all right? This is an amazing quote. Anonymous labour councillor. They are lazy and they cannot be bothered. They probably don't want to look after the environment and the climate change and blah, blah, blah. They are not thinking about their children. They're not thinking about the place they live in. I mean, good grief. We had a huge hot summer this year and that's all to do with climate change, running out of water and whatever. All these things are contributing to climate change. Now, I'm not a scientist, okay? But, do we really think that if the people of Denbighshire in North Wales fail to separate their paper from their cardboard, it will be 10 degrees hotter next summer?
Speaker 2Yes, yes, yes. Now, I take a point and working at the Telegraph, back in my day, I have written editorials about so many stories in which we found that people have separated everything into six different bags and they've all gone to the same toxic dump in Bulgaria. That's the problem with it. I just, I don't believe that it all goes to different places. The other thing is, I noticed from that quote, he said, they're not thinking about their children. No, they're not. They're thinking about the recycling. You're going to have a spike in child neglect in this part of Wales. There you are. They've got no time. Because people are too busy. But I do feel life is playing a cool trick when you are forced to go through your own bins. Yes. Come on. Yeah. Things are tough enough in my household.
Speaker 1Well, there you go. Well, you know, another couple of years of labour we'll be going through public bins probably. Here we go. Here we go. Once we've run out of our stockpiles of baked beans, that'll be the next thing I'm afraid. We'll be scavenging like urban foxes.
Speaker 2One story that caught my eye because I'm terrified of flying is that three quarters of European airline pilots admit that they have fallen asleep in the cockpit while flying a plane. Well, I guess what this points to is how the thing flies itself now. Because I assume there would be, we'd hear about it, right, if they were falling asleep with their hands on the ground or on the wheel, whatever it's called. We'd hear about it because they would probably crash. Yeah, exactly, right. That's my point. And if they were asleep when it did crash, well, they would never know. So, you know, good for them. But this, so I think this points to how everything's automated and that's supposed to reassure us in some ways, but it doesn't me because it's an old joke, but anyone who trusts automation has never used a printer. And the idea that a plane up there could go the same way as my mother as my mother's inkjet, which I'm called to the house once a week like an engineer on some kind of permanent contract to fix, just makes me think this is not good. It just makes me want to fly even less.
Speaker 1Well, to be fair, you're doing your duties as a son. The role of sons is to perform tech support for their parents. My son's 12. He does it for me all the time. Does he? So that's fine. Yeah, there you go. But yeah, God, I mean, I say I don't have a fear of flying. At least I didn't until I read this story. I think I'm starting to develop one now. I think perhaps next summer I'll be holidaying in Britain, a nice little staycation for me now. Unless you're going to tell me that a train driver is also full of sleep at the front of their. I was going to say,
Speaker 2I'm not sure what they do anymore either. Yeah. They just don't turn up for work according to my tannoy. Now, I want to compliment you on a superb article you wrote. Really? Did I? About my old friend Alistair Campbell. Old chum of yours. We go way back. Anyone who wants to Google that can. Anyone who wants to know, either Google it or ask my lawyer. But you commented upon a line in his new book. His new book, yes. Which is called
Speaker 1What is the Word? He has invented a new word and it's called Perseverance. That's the title of his book. That full title, Perseverance, the word the world needs now. So he's come up with this word and he's decided we all need to adopt it. It needs to be in the Oxford English Dictionary. It's a portmanteau term he has created of the words perseverance and resilience, which I would argue are almost synonyms anyway, so I feel you've not created anything new there.
Speaker 2And I want to say Percivillian sounds like a knight in Monty Python. So Percivillian's the brain.
Speaker 1There you go. Anyway, I'm very glad you brought this up because it's made it worthwhile me reading that Trojans book. And if anyone wants to know more about it, my one star review is available on the Telegraph website. But anyway, I wanted to focus on one single line in this book, in my column this week, which is where Alistair Campbell describes himself as a national treasure. Now, I was going to say, I wasn't aware that, you know, you were able to declare yourself as a national treasure. I thought it was something that other people. Yes, as a committee. Yes. So very possibly. Yes. So, you know, or at least the media, you know, would refer to you as a national treasure. I didn't know you could just decide. Other people. Other people. But he has unilaterally declared himself a national treasure. Right. You know, I don't mean any disrespect to him, but I feel. Well, that's a somewhat contentious claim.
Speaker 2Yes, it is. Yes. Yeah. The most contentious
Speaker 1claim he's made since since Iraq, some would say. But yeah, because I think the thing about national treasures is it's not just anyone who is famous. It's a particular sort of famous person with certain qualities. They all have certain qualities in common. You know, they're people who are or are at least perceived to be sort of warm, cuddly, good natured and above all, sort of lovable. They're lovable figures. You're thinking of, you know, you're Stephen Fry and. Yes. Jews. Judi Dench, David Attenborough, Alan Bennett, all of these sort of figures. Someone who you met in the street. You'd be somewhat starstruck. People imagine they would get on with them. Yes, exactly. They'd be very nice. And whatever qualities Alastair Campbell may have, I'm not convinced that those are among them. I'm not I'm not sure if you went up to people in the street and say, you know, think of a thing of a word to describe Alastair Campbell. I don't think the great British public are going, oh, well, lovable, obviously. Yes. It's yeah, it's lovability, I would say, is his defining trait. Honestly, I've I've never felt lovability like it. You know, lovability seeps from his every pore. Yes. So I'm not quite convinced of that, I have to say. Anyway, so I wrote that column and I was answering readers comments after it. And I have to say, I had a remarkable number of them saying, yes, I think Alastair Campbell is a national treasure in the sense that I'd like to bury him. A lot of them saying that, I have to say. And I'm not saying I endorse that point of view. Yes. But that's
Speaker 2what a lot of people are saying. The thing is that whenever I hear national treasure, I've never liked the term, but it always makes me instantly think of old, old coins that our museums are full of cases packed with old, old coins. And they always have covers over them for some reason, because they're so boring that the people who run the museums actually put a cloth cup and you sort of lift one up and glimpse it and think, yeah, let's go through to the portraiture or the dinosaurs. And it's just put there. I don't, to me, national treasure doesn't necessarily automatically mean something good. But when I think of national treasure, if I'm being positive about it, I might think of, say, the lovely Miranda Hart, who was kicked off traitors recently. And when I look at her, I think of sort of warm, vulnerable, funny, lovable. And when I look at Alastair Campbell, I think evil. I mean, if he were on the traitors, everyone would just go, well, it's him, right? There would be no show. I mean, I know the format's not that, but just all 30 of the other contestants would all just go, it's him.
Speaker 1It'd be worse than having Richard Hume. It'd be worse than having him. Worse than Richard E. Grander. You're saying I had to tell them.
Speaker 2Had to tell people. Alastair Campbell would not need to tell them. I mean, people would be calling the police to say, we found not just a traitor, but also a threat to national security here. So there you go. Dear old Alastair.
Speaker 1You're probably giving the BBC ideas here. They're going to have a series called Celebrity War Criminal. See if you can pick them out. Yes. Yes. We've got his mate Tony as well. That's what got me in trouble before.
Speaker 2That's why I say, speak to my lawyer. Now, according to some surveys, people are putting finance before romance when they choose a life partner.
Speaker 1Oh, this was a survey, right? This is a survey. I think it's about, is it Gen Z in particular? This is Gen Z. The young people. The young people.
Speaker 2The young people of today. Are now looking for money rather than love.
Speaker 1Yeah. I have neither. They can't afford to go on dates. I have neither. Apparently, they can't afford to go on dates. They can't afford it. Right. Okay. And I've heard that some of them, because they can't afford to go out for dinner, they will suggest to go out for a cup of coffee or, this is the weird one, let's go out for a jog together.
Speaker 2Yeah. Because there's nothing sexier than a jog.
Speaker 1I don't understand that. I mean, I guess the idea is you want to see what I look like when I'm hot and sweaty and that kind of thing.
Speaker 2Yeah. Yeah. But not on all fours crying on the pavement because you can't do this anymore. Or on a shell 40 or something. Yeah, exactly. That is bizarre, isn't it?
Speaker 1Yeah. I think it's very easy for us to sort of dismiss this and sort of mock Gen Z or whatever for their latest sort of hapless misfortunes. But I actually think we should be concerned about this because we often talk, certainly we often write in this newspaper about one of the greatest threats to this country and the West as a whole is collapsing birth rates. Well, look, our birth rates are not going to recover if the young people of today cannot even afford to go on a date. Yes. Without a family. Yes. I think maybe we need to start investing in our young people. How about instead of paying them all universal credit and PIP and all the rest of it, let's take that away and instead pay them to go for romantic dinners at top restaurants. There you are. Just find a member of the opposite sex or same sex. Hang on a minute. What am I saying? Anyone you like, find a potential partner. And yeah, I, the taxpayer, I will pay for you to have a lovely candlelit dinner. Right. Okay. And let's get those birth rates up.
Speaker 2Yeah. No, I think that's a lovely idea because if people are trying to connect while jogging, I mean, even if there is a spark, they're not going to do anything because they'll be knackered by the end of it. There it is. There you go. There you go. Lovely to meet you. Brisk handshake and you go home for a shower. I mean, that's, how do we expect to replenish the earth really?
Speaker 1There you go. Well, there you are. Mr. Healey, Mr. Chancellor, if you are watching, you didn't have the nerve to sort out the welfare. Yeah. To sort out the welfare bill in, in this, in this budget. There's how to do it in your next one. Okay. Get rid of all the benefits and instead pay young people to go out for dinner. You know, fall in love, start a family. We've, we've, we've solved, I don't know how many problem, national problems in, in one go there. So there you are. Anyway, well, it's another, another, another policymaking triumph for, for the weekend tea, Tim. So perhaps. I just hope the elite are watching. I hope so too. Anyway, thank you. Thanks for watching and I'll see you next time.
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