Brock Bowers Had SURGERY?! Biggest NFL Week 1 Storylines, Predictions & Breaking News (Ep. 2180)

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Welcome, everybody, that's hanging out on Fantasy Pros for this special edition where we are on both sides. We are hours from kickoff to week one in the NFL. And I am Chris Welsh. That is Andrew Erickson. And what we do here on the "Tailgate Live" is we're gonna go through some of the biggest story lines midweek. We got one that broke just a couple, like minutes ago it felt like. And an opportunity to interact with some of you guys. So if you guys enjoy this show where we're talking just real NFL, talking story lines across the board. No fantasy slant to it. Make sure you guys subscribe to the "Tailgate" channel because this is the only edition of this show, which will be on both sides, "Tailgate" and "Fantasy Pros". So just go and search "Tailgate NFL" on YouTube. Follow us or youtube.com/TailgateNFL. Andrew Erickson, big news coming down as we're gonna go live. Glad to see you, brother. I didn't, I didn't become a backwards hat brother with you though. I don't know if I should. Should I backwards hat it a little bit? Oh, where is the sound effect here? For, well, there we go, okay, now rocking. Cheers. All right, now we're rolling with it. All right, Erickson, let's jump into this. We've got some big story lines. And we want to interact with you guys as well. So please, feel free to drop questions in the chat. We'll try to interact and kind of interchange them, especially if they are on the topic of discussion. And we want to talk about week one. What are the biggest story lines? And the biggest story line just happened within the last hour. News that would have been good to know yesterday. Brock Bowers undergoes a meniscus trim. Is that, I've never even heard of a meniscus trim. He is undergoing a meniscus trim which now might potentially be keeping him out for a couple of weeks, one to two weeks. Awesome to have known before. We now don't know it. There was a time Erickson where I had a topic for this show to be what is a more unwatchable game this week. Titans and Jets or Raiders and Dolphins. And this has now become more competitive because without the Raiders, how is this offense going to move? So talk to us about your reaction. What do you think about Brock Bowers and his meniscus trim? Absolute bomb shell. That was dropped here as we're putting the final touches on our season long fantasy football rankings. It feels dirty, wrong to move. Bowers because he's been tied in one all off season, leading up to drafts. Basically, most people have already drafted their team. So it feels disingenuous to be like, well, I'm going to move him down. No, he's going to miss a couple of games. Again, he can still be fantasy tied in one, even if he misses two games. And if we had known this a week ago, I still would have been targeting Brock Bowers. I think in fantasy drafts, even at the discount. So I'm not going to move him from my tight. I want rankings and I will just, we'll just see what happens. Again, Titans can miss time. It's not like Tremac Brite. Of course, love and are immune from missing games this season. But yeah, this really sucks for anyone that recently drafted a fantasy. I'm actually looked at my Brock Bowers exposure. And among all my teams, the one team that I have him on is my wife's team. She's the one pissed. She's going to be pissed because it's her work league. And I convinced her to do it. And I said, well, let's get this elite tied in. Let's go. This will be great, honey. And it's going to be a unpleasant dinner conversation when I say bib. Yeah. So the tight end. We took him round two. Yeah. He's, we got to take him out a lot. It should be like bib. The couch. It's right over there. I'll see you in the next two weeks. You're going to get learned. Juan Johnson. You're going to learn some Greg Dullsich potentially. I think the pivot is obviously going to Michael mayor. Yeah. Who was being talked up as having a role in this offense anyway, alongside Brock Bowers, which makes a lot of sense. When you just look at the receivers on that roster, trade tuckers, kind of the most established guy, Jaylen Naylor, Jack Bash, second year wide receiver, who didn't really do a lot as a rookie, forcing the size speed specimen player that did not do anything basically as a rookie. So that's kind of my take on like the Raiders and kind of what they'll do. It seemed like genty is trending in the right direction, though. Islay. He's practicing today. So what if you had to take, I mean, you just said, obviously, mayor, like, has a benefit, unfortunate name to Michael mayor for here's a fantasy press for really unfortunate. But who do you think the biggest beneficiaries? Because there's a part of me, and I'm trying not to get too much of the fantasy brain is we're trying to have like an NFL focus on here. But like, I feel like the Raiders in this defensive match, funds for the Dolphins defense. There's opportunity. There could be two plus Raiders that people are talking about in waiverwares. But who do you think the biggest beneficiary truly is? Does I know mayor is there, but like, could the target to go away truly from Brock Bowers end up being Trey Tucker? And he's got some big explosive. And if Jalen Rager as a possession guy, do you think there's somebody that is going to have easy dominant? Because I kind of lean like Jay here. I kind of lean like Trey Tucker. I think this is an opportunity for a multitude of more targets to be going towards him. And he might be a guy we're all like, what are we doing? Like he could start to show out. Yeah, I think that Trey Tucker is probably the guy that would see the biggest increase in just total volume. Because he's going to be out there. He is the starting wide receiver on this roster where they were kind of rotating some of those other guys in an out of the lineup. I would say like Jalen Nailer does have rapport with Kirk Cousins from their time spent in Minnesota. So that's something to also kind of just like store away in the mind that if they connect on a big play or a touchdown, that would probably be the reason why because he has Kirk Cousins trust. But mayor, I think if you're not trying to overthink it, I would say though, this probably changes their game plan significantly because in the most recent press conference and this is shout out to the coach speak index discord Greg Brainis does great work. I think that could could we act was talking about, yeah, Bowers were expecting to have him. So this was kind of like news to I think everyone on the Raiders. So I mean, this Raiders the last two weeks has just been nuts with a genty thing like he's going down for the season. And now Bowers is already going to miss one to two games. I would probably lean towards two games, just also the terminology that like one's kid. I've been laughing for the last two minutes ones coming just a little off the meniscus, please, like the way they're talking about that term, it feels like he went in to get like a fade. And he's like, you know what? Let's just take a little bit off that meniscus for me. Please, it's a little too tall tall for me. A little too tall in the meniscus. We got to tighten that up a little bit. Number three on my meniscus. Can we go number three? Not a, not a four one last thing on this interesting thought. Multi to should we start considering Brock Bowers is like an injury concern now in this very short career. I don't feel like we're talking about that enough, especially when you're talking about the top end of how amazing he is. And if the gap is shortening between guys like McBride and leveling, are we overplayed? Like is Bowers potential to be a little bit of an overplay for a lot of people this season? I don't think so. We've seen a lot of tight ends. The first one that comes to mind Rob Gronkowski of tight ends that dealt with a ton of injuries and missed a lot of games. But when they're on the field, they dominated. And I think Brock Bowers at least through two years has shown more of that type of career path where maybe it's not 17 games every single season. His availability is in question a lot of the years. Maybe it's not a Jaden Reed type of scenario. Or excuse me, Jaden Reed, a Jordan Reed type of scenario, the Washington tight end. That was a monster, but always hurt all the time, which is very frustrating, but just dominated when he played. So I think maybe that's Bowers path. So someone that when he's back in line up, you're going to be firing it up and you're not even going to be hesitant about it, but I think that that is at least worth acknowledging that yeah, he has been dealing with a couple of these knee injuries been banged up and the fact that this happened something. I think the report was he was dealing with it during training camp and they wanted to get ahead of it. So this is the rate is at least being smart and proactive. I would suggest or think that based on the way they're treating this, they're going to be as cautious if not more cautious with gentie. So if gentie is playing in week one, he's good to go. We shouldn't be hesitant about action gentie. So yeah, but the last thing before we get out the Bowers, Dolphin Moneyline, baby, I've been I've been bowl prediction and I'm Miami Dolphins of the upset and obviously I didn't think this was going to happen, but the that CLV statement. What's the moment look like? I mean, it's got to be I mean, I you can't say to me that you want to bet on the Raiders more because Brock Barrett is now out of the game. So no, but I don't like me over. I don't like the we talked about. I think it was on well, that's that's that's fits his issue. Yeah, that's a fancy problem. Not a by way, I really hope you guys hang out with us in season. We had a ton of fun, Erickson, Fizzy and I we have now three shows on the tailgate every we have now it's going to be the breakdown of the week. We're going to have this live stream and then we're going to have the the predictions for the coming week and the predictions He was like, over on the point, 50 points isn't even enough. And it's like, I'm not so sure about that now. - This news did our boy Alfredo Brown extremely dirty because on the latest tailgate show, you won't hear this, but we had a segment where he was projecting a career game for rock battles. - Ooh, did they cut it? - They had to cut it, they had to cut it. Yeah, it's poor one out, it sucks. Because the analysis was great from Alfredo and it made a lot of sense this dude was gonna absolutely smash because the dolphin's secondary. Again, I like the Miami Dolphins of the upset. Their secondary is a joke across the board, which just shines a light on some of these raiders wide receivers should make some noise. And if they don't, that is very telling of the talent that the raiders have on their offensive roster. And, hey, good luck, our cousins. See how you do without Brock Bowers and Trade Tucker's wide receiver one. - Over on betting pros, I looked at betting pros plus three dolphins still. So you can get them on a few more. - So what's the money line? - Oh yeah, I'm going right for the jugular here. I don't want, I'm not taking the points, I'm just taking the Miami Dolphins with the upset and legals is gonna have a day. - Okay, let's see, sorry, I had to change all that though. 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But Kyle Emery's gonna be put into a interesting position in Kevin O'Connell's offense, where he's gonna be doing a lot of things that he's not traditionally done in the past. I know that Alfredo Brown mentioned that when he was charting Kyle Emery, a lot of stuff just over the middle, kind of turning into a check-down artist, not really pushing the ball to the outside, and is that going to keep Justin Jefferson happy? Maybe it's more Justin Jefferson is Luke Worm, having Kyle Emery as his quarterback, and not pissed, because that was clearly the case last year when AJ McCarthy was his quarterback. And again, it's not very the lead here. AJ McCarthy, QB3 on the Minnesota Vikings death chart. So for all the haters out there that made fun of me for taking Carson Wentz, and his superflex draft, a couple of weeks ago with Tom Stracken. - You can still make fun of him, but yeah. - I still make it for taking a backup for the Vikings, you could still make fun of him. - Yeah, but in a superflex and then round 20, well, I mean, people were taken, I was taking Brandon, I you care, two months ago. That wasn't even worse pick. - Okay, why were you taking Brandon, I you? - Hey, at the time, we didn't know. - No, we knew, we knew, we didn't know he was gonna go absolutely insane against the commanders. - Oh no. - Jay Daniels. - I'm pretty sure every moment, the first show I did on tailgate on this channel was railing against Brennan Ayuk and saying he would never play in the NFL again. So that's a few pro. - Are you still stand by that? Has that ever played in the NFL again? - I don't think he'll play in the NFL again. - Wow. I mean, he's figuring it out. Like what's the, he's not gonna play this year. It's gonna be a year removed. I mean, maybe there'd be some big cathartic thing. He's not playing this year. So that's a no-brainer. So Fitsy on the points. That's a you problem with the Brandon Ayuk. But Justin Jefferson, by the way, he was doing my favorite thing. He was doing the like, I'm not gonna say this is a problem. If I were a bad friend, I would say this, this, this, this, and this would be a problem. He was literally telling us. He's like, I don't wanna complain about it. But if I wanna do complain, I would say all these things. I think it's a dicey road. I think Justin Jefferson's gonna have to come out hot. I think there's gonna be a lot of eyes because it's not just Jefferson's ability to be happy. It's Kyler Murray also unseeding McCarthy down to the three spot and maybe ending. 'Cause if Kyler's a disaster here, you think really people are gonna be screaming about wanting Carson wins in the lineup? No, it's gonna be in the McCarthy stuff. It could be a circus. This team could be a circus. So I think this week one is really, really important. That's just how I take it. - I like the matchup overall against the Packers defense. And then I'm pretty sure the Vikings play the Chicago Bears in week two. So if he does have a productive game against Green Bay without their best defense player, the Bears defense is Buns, Cheeks. I think that Bryce Young could have a decent game against them in week one, especially with the Bears playing on the road. So Kyler we know is at his best at the beginning of seasons, right? Before he gets banged up, before teams can figure out what he's doing. That's usually when he's as most productive. So I am on the more optimistic side that Jefferson can at least start the season out hot. And I think too, Kevin O'Connell's dumb. He's gonna move Jefferson around to make things easier for Kyler. So even though it doesn't really seem like it is a perfect fit between O'Connell's offense, what we've traditionally seen from it in Kyler Murray, O'Connell is also smart enough of a head coach to realize, okay, I do need to bind and change my offense a little bit around to fit Kyler Murray. and what he can do successfully to obviously make the offense go potentially hopefully go there. Hopefully, Jefferson, they want to connect, hopefully Jefferson's a cod guy they can get locked into it. All right, let's go to number three here. And I almost pulled an ultimate Welshism. The phrase is the unstoppable force meets the movable object. I think I wrote the unstoppable object versus the movable force, which it sounded correct. But the unstoppable force move versus the movable object. That is the Buffalo Bills versus the Houston Texans. My buddy Bogman cannot stop screaming about this Texans defense. I think the bills are clearly just built around DJ Moore opens back up this offense. One of the best offensive players in James Cook. So I think a huge storyline. One of the best games that we are going to be obviously the Wednesday Thursday fun stuff. But you want to talk about a great game this weekend. It is the unstoppable force versus the movable object. Talk to us about the bills versus the Texans. I think it's going to be tough slut for Buffalo. They have very similar offensive pieces in place against the Houston Texans defense that has had their number. Especially in the last two matchups where Josh Allen has struggled immensely against this elite Texans defense. Now adding DJ Moore is the big acquisition that the bills made this off season to get them over the hump. Obviously moving Joe Brady from off the coordinator to head coach. How will that kind of change the dynamic of maybe they are more aggressive throwing the football against the Houston Texans. Maybe they don't try to be as conservative and try to win a lower scoring game. I'm expecting this game to be a rock fight. I think that CJ Stratton's offensive line is still kind of figuring things out. One of their starting offensive tackles, Braden Smith. I believe is already on short term injury reserve. So it's going to be my guy former Patriot Trent Brown out there at right tackle, which I don't love for the Houston Texans offensive line. So I think that this is going to be a lower scoring game and who do you like? I like the Texans. They're underdogs at home. That's the side that I would rather be on, especially given though they've been able to stop Josh Allen. Look, there are certain quarterbacks and defensive matchups where even the best of the best quarterbacks. There are certain defensive schemes personnel packaging and that they just don't play well against even the greatest quarterbacks of all time with Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes. There's always been certain teams that have matched up really well against what they do well and they don't ever beat those teams or they struggle. So I like the Texans. They're playing at home against Buffalo on the road. Buffalo has a really tough schedule to open their season. There you have a short week, I believe they're going to play on Thursday night hosting the Detroit lines unveiling their new stadium. So that'll be a fun look ahead game in week two to kick things off. But for week one, one o'clock PM. I think that the Houston Texans are going to throw a lot and I think that their defense is going to perform very well in the spot. What are your guys' biggest story lines? We got a couple more. Do you want to answer some questions? There's a lot of fantasy stuff in this as well. We'll do some lightning round. So get in. If you also have got I'd love to see your guys to take your biggest storyline of this weekend. 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Because I think the other one said the giants are going to live and die by Malik neighbors, but if neighbors is not a hundred percent. They don't have much of a wide receiver room. Yeah, I guess we need to talk about on the last one, but any other expectations on neighbors. I think it'll probably find right? It's always is it going to boom? Is he going to bust when in reality? He'll probably just have like an okay game a decent game. I think that it's probably aggressive to assume 102 studies going to go absolutely nuclear against the Dallas defense, which I think is passing proof from last year. Their weakness is still there perimeter cornerbacks and they obviously had a Caleb Downs to help with their secondary. They have a really good pass rush. So I'm just what's the thing with his giant's offense really like that is by biggest question. I think we talked about it to where on the prediction show they only have four wide receivers on the roster. So clearly Malik neighbors got a play or else it's they're doing pony person now they're doing 13 person now with heavy tight ends and running back. So I think by default neighbors are going to be out there a lot and I think that makes him a wide receiver to that if he's really healthy, then you can obviously see a higher upside case. 40 million questions about tight ends for people I have seen. I mean, just I'm going to put out some. There's John Johnson. There's this one. There's this one. I mean, John Johnson, I think it would be the biggest no brainer and fantasy pros. He's ranked as like a top 10 tight end this week. I think I'm going to get a bit nine. Don't you have my like seven or something? I moved him up to a heaven and eight. And if you want to know where I have Michael mayor, I moved him up to 11. I think that he's a auto start this week. Okay, so then, Joanne Johnson and then mayor mayor over the dulcich over quite a few of the tight ends. I feel like people are throwing that there's no far from with or anything like that. Who is mayor right above? Travis Kelsey. Oh, Kelsey. Um, I haven't made any moves because obviously this just happened, but Trey, do you think Trey Tucker should be a top 36 wide receiver this week? I know you're talked about him, but now I'm just thinking about the sale top 36. We need to go through the Miami Dolphins secondary. It's it's it's so bad. You have to go watch the tailgate show with Alfredo. He does a great job because the dolphins are his team. He outlines it because you got to give Alfred throw them a bone because his rock power segment got nuked. So go give it a listen. He broke down the Dolphins secondary. Actually, wait. No, it's not going to be broken down anymore because that park got nuked on the show. Oh my god. So we got to go through it then. See you up in secondary. Okay, open secondary. There you go. All right, let's let's burn through our last two and then we'll save any last questions. Number four big storyline. And I think our boy Callie, this is his, I think Callie just left to this is going to upset him. Will mom be proud of the Eagles. This is actually supposed to be offense. So he's not going to be proud of that. But is, is, is will the Eagles make mom proud this week and he wrote defense. It's meant to be offense. Because that's been the big question. They couldn't move the ball. And I think everybody's kind of hyper focus. I had multiple people texting me, you know, drafts this week, friends of mine. A couple of them took Jalen Hertz and they're just like fingers crossed. This is going to look good. They lose AJ Brown. But not defense like that screen says, will mom be proud of the Eagles offense this year? Proud. I think, I think so. But yeah, you don't say he don't sound like a proud Papa. I'm just not the biggest Eagles bowl. In terms of Hertz and Sean Manion and this combination working. I think it could be okay. I don't know if it's going to be back to the glory days of stable and Barkley rushing for 2000 yards. The offensive line is fragile in my opinion, just because of the age of Lane Johnson. And whenever he misses time, it's similar trend Williams where the team just ceases to operate at a functional level. Things collapse when one offensive tackle is out of the lineup. So that is always a big concern for me. And I don't think that the Eagles offense is better without AJ Brown. Because I think AJ Brown is a great player. So that's something that I'm always trying to keep in mind. Maybe once they get the guy living up to speed. And he is firing on all cylinders. I think that can be a big boost for this offense. But I think it's going to take some time. I know that we noted this when we had our I think it was our discord episode from the extra point about going to Patriots training camp. And the Patriots were running very, very fast in terms of their pace of play, because it was Drake May second year adjustment Daniels offense, whereas with the Eagles, they were running much slower because it was clearly an offense and team that was installing a new offensive play color. By the way, I just want to point out that episode you just talked about was also a nuke episode. Don't you remember that. See, this is why you come to tailgate live, 'cause we talk about all the new episode. all the new episode. It's the one and it was my fault. It was on the extra point. We do a show where it's kind of like this. If you guys want to interact with us on the fantasy pros discord fantasy pros.com slash chat. We are there every Thursday at 2 p.m. Eastern. And it was the one show all season. I was messing with audio settings to make stuff cool. And I totally screwed it up. And that episode got nuked. And it was like eight minutes of Ericsson talking about the Patriots. And I just sat back. And then I was like, oh, hey, I'm back in the episode. It was great. But you missed it unless you were in there with us. The final one, this is a, this is a misadjerk one. And I know there's part of it. Like people are already going to be locked into. But if the Broncos go into Kansas City, they show off this new pass catching side with Jalen Waddle. Maybe the run game makes a lot more sense. And they win and they win handedly. Not only are they super bowl contenders, but are they the clear cut super bowl favorite out of the AFC if they go in and dominate Kansas City? Or is that just saying a little too much and giving a little too much credit to Kansas City? I think it's going to be pretty telling. I'm for one. I'm surprised that they are underdogs against the chiefs. Because to me, the chiefs feels like a reset year for them. I don't think it's realistic to expect the Holmes office ACL injury with the influx of the chiefs receivers trying to figure out who is going to be the top guy, Rossi Rice. That's the expectation. Xavier Worthy. He's been banged up throughout the off season. Travis Kelsey is another year older, bringing Ken Walker. I think was a great addition to this team. But when you just stack up the rosters Denver versus the chiefs, I get that it's my homes and you feel dumb anytime you bet against this guy. But it's interesting. I think Andy Reid was talking about how yeah, it looks like my home except he's wearing his brace on his knee. It's like, yeah, like that's the big difference because he's coming off a torn ACL. I think that that matters significantly. So I think the Broncos are being disrespected. I get that they're on the road here, but their defense should be top five. I expect bonix to take another step forward, adding an explosive playmaker like Jane LaWattle. The biggest thing with the Broncos last year, they had all of these comeback wins. And it's right that you're expecting that not to repeat. It's really hard to do that. So how do you avoid having to rely on all these second half comebacks? Play with the lead in the first half of games getting explosive playmaker like Jane LaWattle so that you're winning in the first half of games and you don't have to come back in the second half. So I think the Broncos did a great job addressing their roster during the offseason and bonix. Not another biggest bow lever. Never been, but I think at this point, he's being underrated, especially with how well he has played in Sean Payton's offense for the last two seasons. And I think hiring Davis Webb as an offensive coordinator. I think it's actually going to help this Broncos team go up another level potentially. I love it. We're going to do just a couple quick. You only get a sentence if not a word. Okay. Even if it's a big question here for you, Erickson, I'm going to just do just a couple and then we're going to be getting out of here. Do you believe in the cult's offense to get back where they were before the Daniel Jones injury? So one sentence no. I think I know you're going to do. Not going to let you do it. One sentence. Trey Tucker over Chris Bell. Yes. We go on. We go on. Okay, where is the other one I wanted? I want someone was trying to yell at you about. No, it was about, I can't find. Maybe he got de-clicked, but I'll pretend to be the person. But Michael Mayer did nothing when he was in replacing the Bowers before. The Raiders offense didn't do much of anything last year. That's it. You only get a sentence. That's not the only sentence you get. All right. There you go. That is a good stuff there. Thank you guys all for hanging out with us in conjunction here. By the way, we got Wednesday night football BP stream that's happening. 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