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Brock, Boston & Kesley on Mormon taboos, surviving a plane crash, and waiting til marriage

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Brock, Boston & Kesley on Mormon taboos, surviving a plane crash, and waiting til marriage

Brock and Boston, identical twin brothers from Utah, share a deeply rooted bond shaped by their upbringing, shared faith, and early-life experiences. They began collaborating on YouTube in sixth grade and developed a romantic relationship during adolescence, eventually marrying after a brief two-month engagement. Their decision to marry at 21 reflects broader cultural norms in Utah, where early marriage is common among Latter-day Saints. A pivotal moment in their lives was a near-fatal plane crash when they were 16, during a family flight over the Uintah Mountains. The crash resulted in severe injuries, including spinal trauma for their father, but no fatalities due to a timely emergency response. The brothers recount the harrowing experience, describing the sudden loss of power, the chaos of the crash, and the immediate aftermath, which left lasting emotional and psychological impacts. Despite the trauma, they emphasize resilience, family unity, and faith in overcoming adversity. The episode highlights both their personal journey and the wider LDS cultural context, including beliefs like the Word of Wisdom and the importance of modern prophets. Their story blends humor, vulnerability, and deep faith, illustrating how trust, communication, and shared values strengthen relationships. The experience also underscores the strength of family bonds and the enduring power of faith in times of crisis.

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This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. You chose to hit play on this podcast today. Smart choice. Make another smart choice with AutoQuote Explorer to compare rates from multiple car insurance companies all at once. Try it at Progressive.com. Progressive Casualty Insurance and Affiliates. Not available in all states and situations. Prices may vary on how you buy. Our family got in a plane crash. Seeing the ground team, we were going down. I had all these different thoughts go through my mind. I remember just like holding onto my seat, bracing for impact, and then it was just black. There were guys like sliding into your DMs when he was on his mission for six months. Yeah. Other missionaries. Other missionaries? How are these guys not locked in? We say we have twin telepathy, and we actually have rehearsed this in the past. No way. So as for shape, we do triangle. I don't know why he chose circle. Sorry, I forgot. He went off script. I've tasted coffee. Both Brock and I did the same day. No way. We're going to H-E Double Hockey Stakes. No! Today on Unplanned, we sat down with viral twin brothers Brock and Boston, who blew up when they were only 12 years old. Recently, Brock married his high school sweetheart, fellow TikTok creator Kesley, after a short two-month engagement. This episode was so good, you guys. We talk about Utah culture, Mormon culture, the pressure of waiting till marriage, as well as the traumatic plane crash that nearly killed their entire family, all on today's episode. By the way, if you have not already subscribed to the podcast, the majority of you guys are not subscribed. It's something like 60% of the people watching every week are not subscribed. So please subscribe. It's the free way you can support the show. Without further ado, let's get into it. What? What's up, dudes? And welcome back to Unplanned. Guys, today we have Brock and Boston and Kesley with us. Super stoked to talk to you guys. Thank you for being here, by the way. We're excited to be here, yes. I was just asking them before we started filming about where they're currently living, because I knew that they had spent a lot of time in Tennessee, but I was like, they're from Utah. This might be a little edgy. I wanted to ask you guys, though, what's your favorite Utah swear word? Frick. Frick. Am I allowed to say that? That's my favorite. Frick is my favorite one. Okay, there you go. And what the fetch. I still like, I never heard you say that. You guys have heard fetch, right? Yeah. Yeah. I've never said it, but I've heard it. How do you use fetch in proper context as a Utah citizen? It's kind of like what the freak, you know, like are you fetching? Are you kidding me? Yeah, what the freak. Now that, we might need to cut that out of the episode. All right, bleep that, blow it out of my mouth. Yeah, what the bleep? Do people ever say that? I mean, no. I feel like I've heard that, honestly. What the bleep? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe. Utah's different. I say frick. I say frick. Yeah. Yeah. I think, like, I think, I think I started saying that because Fred was like a YouTuber like 20 years ago when I was like a kid. Did you ever? 20 years ago when you were a kid? Wait, Fred Ficklehorn? Fred. Yeah, Fred Ficklehorn. Oh my. I love him. I love him. That was like the beginning of brain rot. Like brain rot. Yeah. That's true. Back then. Yeah. He'd be like, hey, it's Fred. Like that guy. Yeah. Yeah. He was my idol. Okay. No. You're kidding. That's too much. Okay. No. So I was saying, I was like, I know that they like are in Utah, but they're not Tennessee. I was kind of confused. Come to find out they're neighbors. Can you even say this? You guys were neighbors with Dave Ramsey in Tennessee? Yeah. Can we, is that? Good old buddies. I don't, can we say that? Is that public information? I don't know. We're out of that neighborhood now, I guess. That's so sad. Dude. Dave is still a dream guest for this pod. Yeah. You know. Dave's a cool guy. Did you guys meet him? Unfortunately, we didn't. But my mom did. I promise. Yes. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. So we have, we're kind of tight. They're kind of tight. Yeah. I love Dave. I read his books when we wanted to get married young, because that was. Matt talks about him a lot on this podcast. I do. Just try to put on the pressure. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Dave, if you're watching this, we would love to chat with you. We're your biggest fans. But you had some cool neighbors there. You were saying. That's cool. So random. So random. That's so fun. Yeah. We love Nashville a lot. We're actually going there literally in a couple of days. Yeah. Do you like Nashville more or Utah more? That's hard. I actually love both. I feel like people ask me which one I love more, but it's such a different way of life in either one. Like Tennessee, we have some land, farm animals, and then Utah, we live in the suburbs, and we have friends that are close by, and we have Swig, too. Yeah. That's true. So there is that. Yeah. I would say, so I hated Tennessee at first, because I was moving away from my girlfriend. Oh, yeah. We were also in high school and stuff, so that was pretty hard. But now. That's a different move, huh? Yeah. It was awful. I hated it. But now I'd say that I really love Tennessee, just because our farm, the pace is a lot slower. We're not doing crazy stuff all the time. It's just chill. Wait. Okay. For anybody that gets you guys confused, you're Brock. You're Boston, right? Yes. Yeah. Okay. I was going to say, because if you were Boston, I'd be like, "Why do you have your hand on her leg?" Sorry. That was a really dumb joke. But no, seriously. I'm genuinely curious. You guys are twins. You probably get twin questions asked all the time. How do people tell you guys apart? Because I'm dumb. I legitimately. I feel like we look different. Yeah. I agree. I feel like we look a little different. He's got more gray hairs. You don't have to tell them that. You guys both have very thick hair, though. Wait. Yeah. They have nice hair. That's kind of dope. Is this called a burst fade? Is that what I'm seeing? Dude, I don't know. Modern mullet. My mom gives me my haircuts, so. No way. No way. Yes. Uh-huh. Has that always been a thing? Your mom giving you guys haircuts? Always. Always. Always. Yeah. Frick, I need to learn. Wow. I started that as barbershop, and I started getting my two and three-year-old haircuts. You could literally learn that. I learned it. I had to do my own hair for like two years, so you could easily just pick it up. Oh, you did on your mission? Yeah. Yeah. You're kidding. Yeah. You can't get haircuts on your mission. I mean, it's kind of against. I'm not. No. No. No. You totally can. You could have convinced us. I went to some Brazilian barbers and stuff, and I don't know. I just kind of liked how I did my hair, so I just learned it myself. Yeah. Wait. So you went on a mission to Brazil for two years. That is hardcore. No. Wait. Yeah. Sorry. So I went there for two months, and then I had to come back home because I was having gallbladder attacks. Gosh. So I had to get my gallbladder taken out because I had gallstones and stuff, and then they shipped me back out to actually Boston, Massachusetts, where I learned Portuguese still, and so I was still kind of around the Brazilians and stuff, but then I finished my mission out there. No way. Wow. That's pretty crazy. That's pretty rad. There's a population of Brazilian people in Boston? It's crazy. Yeah, a lot. It's a melting pot. You got Ecuadorians. You got Brazilians. Like, just so many different people. Wow. Okay, if you were to knock on my door right now, what would you say if you were on your mission? Dude, I would just invite you to church. I'm like, "Hey, we got church this Sunday. You want to pull up? It's going to be fun." What do people usually say when you say that? People usually say no, or they're like, "Ah, maybe next time or something." That's basically it, but. Did anyone ever invite you inside their house and bake you cookies? Because that's what Abby did for the mission. Uh-uh. For the elders and sisters. We became a restroom stop for some. We did? Yeah. You guys are like the goats. Missionaries would talk about you guys. That would be the miracle. They're the best. Literally, for the day, you'd be like, "That was a miracle. We got to go in." That's so awesome. No, we became a restroom stop. They would knock on our door and be like, "I'm so sorry. Can we quickly go to the bathroom?" I was like, "Sure." It happened more than once. I was like, "I think we got. It got communicated." That's so sweet. We were newlyweds. Those were fun. No, no. I'm talking about this house. Uh-uh. I didn't make the mission in Missouri. Wait, what the frick, Abby? What the frick? What the fetch? Where are you at? No, you're talking about Missouri. You're right. In Missouri, so we lived next to. I don't know the term for the name of the building where the mission's meet. I think it was just. Oh, the mission home? The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. No, but there's a place where. Where all the missionaries go? Yeah. Is it a church building? Yeah, it was right next to our house. Oh, okay. That's crazy. I was like, "Oh, that's crazy." I was like, "Oh, that's crazy." There's no temple in Springfield, Missouri. That was my story. Oh, wait. What were you saying? What's it called? No, it's just the church. Yeah, it's just the church. It's where they do transfers, I think, if I'm understanding everything correctly. All the missionaries go there and then they transfer and get their new companion. Yeah. That's the spot. They did have companions at this point. That's the meeting spot. Yes. It was raining one day, and I was like, "Oh, it's raining." I was like, "Oh, it's raining." I was like, "Oh, it's raining." It was raining. I was like, "Oh, it's raining." I was like, "Oh, it's raining." I was like, "Oh, it's raining." I was like, "Oh, it's raining." I was like, "Oh, it's raining." It was raining. I was like, "Oh, it's raining." I was like, "Oh, it's raining." You're always very impressed by people that do that. I mean, what are some of the rules that you had to follow on your mission? You're about to start. Yeah, I'm about to start. Yeah. Good luck, bro. Good luck, bro. Honestly, the mission was awesome. I feel like we didn't have crazy, crazy rules. Yeah. How did you explain the missionary rules? Did you go on a mission too? I did. Where did you go? I went to Montana. Oh, cool. Yeah. That's why we love it so much. Well, I love it so much. Yeah. He hasn't been before. I got to visit Montana. Yeah. You do. Yeah. But some of the rules. We only could call our family once a week, so every Monday we'd call our families. They just really, really recommended not to text them or call them throughout the week so you could really focus on the work. What's some other rules? Well, no movies. Oh, you got to do. We learned that one. Wait, what's that? Oh, no movies. Yeah, no movies because you got to stay locked in. Yeah. And then another rule would be you have to stay with your companions, so whoever you're with, you have to stay with them at all times, except for bathroom, obviously, and stuff, but yeah. Yeah. They can't date, right? You can't date on a mission. No dating on your mission? No. I mean, technically, you're not supposed to, but. Did you guys break that rule? You guys were still dating, but you were not in the same. I mean, we were together, but we'd email. We'd also text. Should I say maybe I FaceTimed you? you yeah you're not you only are allowed to like facetime family but like we would you know we're family right yeah now they are yeah now you are you know you're gonna be because our friends that have been on missions a lot of them broke up with their significant order while they were on their mission yeah yeah so how did you guys stay together that's really hard to do it was hard i don't know i feel like we both i don't know we both kind of just agreed that like we were sort of together but also like if things did change like it would be okay because two years is like a long time yeah so we kind of we would talk just every monday and then just kind of went from there and then we came home saw how we felt what was that reunion like after two years because you had dated for a long time before your mission six years that's crazy you started dating before your mission six years that's crazy you started dating before your mission six years that's crazy you started dating before your mission dating at 14 and 15 yeah yeah yeah holy cow was there ever a time you're like i'd rather just get married and not serve see that's what i was thinking because so that was my plan but it ended up changing so yeah basically like my dad he didn't serve a mission and so i felt like no pressure from like family or anybody i'm like you know what i'm gonna do the same thing my dad did my dad got married to um my mom and stuff and right out of high school i'm like you know what i'm gonna do that same thing and then she had other plans so i was like all right oh so you went on yours at the same time yeah well so the boys are 24 months the girls are 18 months so he actually went out before i did and then i went out six months after so we'd get home at the same time ah but um yeah no you were the one to decide the mission first yeah actually i did so that's kind of we were planning on getting married after high school but then i don't know things just changed okay be real with me though were guys like sliding into your dms when he was on his mission for six months not when i was home but when i went out on my mission really yeah what happened nothing just like they would try to message me but i like other missionaries other missionaries other missionaries i'm like how are these guys not locked in bro you gotta be you gotta focus on jesus dude there's a work so long six years you said yeah yeah so i i a lot of them knew that i had like someone at home what does a uh a dm look like from a fellow missionary what would be like hey sister i i saw this scripture and it reminded me of you i don't know they're more just like they're like i don't know like small talk is there is there like a cheesy scripture i mean not cheesy but like a just vanilla one that's overused like i know i know like new testament like john 316 like somebody could be like yeah like john 316 just like spoke to me and i just like really love you like is there something like that in the book of mormon oh my god is there something like that i don't know i gotta think like the word of wisdom would they be like man the word of wisdom was speaking to me like i don't know um well like there's like first nephi four verse six says and i was led by the spirit not knowing beforehand the things which i should do no one's used that but like i guess you can be like oh i was led by the spirit to like talk to you or something i don't know there you go if you need that to slide into a mission there you go okay so you guys didn't obviously go on your mission same time because you're about to leave for yours yeah if you guys would have like decided to serve a mission at the same time is there a world where they would put you both on the same one because you're identical twin brothers i don't know i feel like that is that against the rules no i think it could like i don't know yeah it's like always possible like the thing that they do is you go you felt like these forms like and stuff you sign your life away not really you just kind of tell them your interest like if you would be interested in learning a language or going out of the states and stuff you just send them that and then they pray about it and then they choose the location of where you're where you serve so yeah i guess like they totally could like i've heard of other siblings serving in the same area that their other siblings served or like someone's dad served in like the same area i don't know it's just random it's like it's a lottery and isn't there like a like a month period that you go somewhere like near byu's campus to be trained and like learn the language yeah the mtc so it's like the mission to learn the language yeah it's like the mission to learn the language training center that's where you go mission training oh mtc okay yeah uh-huh we were actually thinking about this we're curious to ask you guys what do you think that people get them like most commonly get wrong about like the lds church or like mormonism the church because i feel like honestly utah spot and like because of like the secret lives of mormon wives like yeah this has been such a topic online like people are talking about it so much in like online and so i feel like there's got to be something that you hear or like read about you're like or see like represented you're like not really that yeah yeah i think honestly there's a on there's a lot to be honest but i think one thing that a lot of people get confused about is if we actually worship jesus christ which we do because it's in our name the church of jesus christ a lot of these saints but um the mormon name was a nickname and people think we either like worship mormon or joseph smith was the one that like translated the english people think we worship him you know like all these things but in reality it always comes back to jesus christ i think that's the most misconception about our church this episode is brought to you by progressive insurance do you ever find yourself playing the budgeting game well with the name your price tool from progressive you can find options that fit your budget and potentially lower your bills try it at progressive.com progressive casualty insurance company and price and coverage match limited by state law not available in all states this episode is brought to you by paypal you know how a mom's bag has everything sunscreen snacks a stapler the new paypal app is like that but for your money shop pay manage your account and earn rewards all in one place and with purchase protection on eligible items biometric security and pass keys you're protected at every step download the new paypal app to get started see paypal.com protection terms the church made an official statement like five years ago right that they wanted to people to call like the term lds is now used more so than mormon right yeah that's like an official church statement um so like a question i get from people that are christian that like don't quite understand uh like what lds people believe is what's what's the thing about coffee can you can you maybe explain the thing about coffee for someone that doesn't fully understand what that is it's an interesting question topic because we're told not to drink coffee in my perspective i think it's more of just like an addiction thing like coffee can be addictive but so can soda and so like if you're addicted to it then maybe you know like kind of stay away um just because you don't want it to become like your main focus like you don't want to be able to survive you know without this thing that's how i look at it i think it's more of just an addiction thing than it is the coffee but i'm still learning so i don't know yeah totally it's also like a thing too so we so in our church we believe like that we have um just prophets here on earth today that speak to god talk to god and they give us commandments and so one of that was uh to not drink coffee that's just like one of like the commandments we were given so yeah it's in this it's in this thing it's called the word of wisdom and in the word of wisdom it says like well it's like a health code so it's like like all these things that we follow to stay healthy like we don't smoke use drugs but that also has like things that like you should do like you should eat like you should eat like you should eat like um what is it like like vegetables and moderation and so it's like it's kind of like a big health code they gave but that's the thing that sticks out the most because like because coffee is like the most common thing so it's like okay it's like a commandment of just like a health code and then you have coffee in there and people like oh what coffee's like the best it's awesome so that's how people get mixed up and then the word of wisdom is that within the book of mormon or is that a separate like doctrine in addition to the book of mormon yeah it's separate yeah yeah it's separate yeah and and that was written by brigham young is that is that who wrote it or who knows joe smith joe smith okay okay got it and then who is mormon i actually like or who is the guy i gotta get my facts right dude like i need to know they're putting the hot seat right now i got these questions all the time on my mission so it's like not yeah not a problem at all babe do you want to answer that yeah so in the book of mormon it we had these golden plates that were kind of passed down from generation to generation so it starts with this guy named nephi and then it goes all the way down until like mormon and moroni so mormon is the dad of moroni and he basically sealed up the plates like moroni hid the plates until they were it was time to bring him out um but mormon you know i kind of sealed and put all the plates together so you have all these like old so like let's think of it as other prophets on like the other side of the world like i don't know like years and years and years like before jesus christ came yeah just like that yeah and it's basically the same but with uh prophets here in in the america it's like the ancient america so it's like same sort of thing writing down all their like revelations and stuff and then you got this guy mormon at the very end he's like you know what i'm gonna compile all these i'm gonna write my name on it and so like that's what he did okay but and then okay and then correct me if i'm wrong so people that are a part of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints wow that's a long name i feel that's why lds people yeah like uh identify as christians and believe that these plates were then translated by joseph smith back in the 1800s, and then that's where you get the Book of Mormon. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Okay, dope. - Yeah, we just believe, 'cause like Joseph Smith, he was called to be a prophet of God, and then from that time after he was called to be a prophet, we continue to have prophets and revelations and stuff. So like, we still have like modern day scripture coming out from our prophet today, and from his apostles that we believe, so. - Yeah. - Dope. - So just continue. - Thank you for, thank you for letting us put you on the hot seat. - Matt just got all of us to try his questions out. - No, I love it. It's like, we have like continued revelations, so we have more things to help us and guide us in today's world, 'cause like back in the day, they didn't have phones and stuff. You had no guide to like go and say, "Hey, we're gonna have phones in the future. Don't do this, don't do that." But now we have like apostles and prophets who we believe in today that can give us guidance on how to use our phones and how to use social media as like a good tool. - Okay, I've seen missionaries do it in social media. Is that like encouraged now to like reach people? So it's like you're allowed to like post faith-based stuff on social media while you're on your mission, but not to just like scroll and everything? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, that's basically it. Just they have, I've had, I had Facebook on my mission, so I was able to like post on Facebook just a little more like uplifting content. And then, yeah, they encourage you just 'cause like social media can go so far. - Yeah. - That's cool. - Okay, that's dope. Thanks for explaining all that, guys. - Of course. - That's cool. - Hopefully it made sense. - Yeah, that was good. - I think your guys' content is specifically like sweet and enjoyable for us to watch because we have two little boys now that kind of think they're twins, because they're a year apart. So they're like our buddies and we always are like, I just hope they stay friends and like hope that they stay close. And so seeing you guys, obviously you guys are twins, but like you're still close now as young adults is so fun. But I feel like, okay, so Matt asked earlier, I feel like people can tell you guys apart. Maybe just not Matt, because- - I'm dumb, but like do one of you guys have like a freckle on your like left cheek or something that like people like, oh yeah, I'm the freckle one, or I don't know. - I feel like there was a freckle. Like if I'm looking at you, you, okay, it's my left, your right, but you have like right there you got a freckle, but you don't have it. So then I can know that Brock is the one- - As babies did you guys look like identical? - I can't even tell them apart as babies. - Okay, hold up though. Has it ever been weird? Like, did you ever have a time where you got them confused? Be real right now. - There's been times where like I'll hear, 'cause sometimes our voices can sound the same, but they sound different. I don't know, it's weird, but yeah, so there's been times where like I'll walk out and like Boston will be turned the different, a different way. And I'll almost think it's Brock, but they're not helping out with the haircuts. - Yeah, I know. Hey, he copied me with the mullet and stuff. So that's why. - Because I even like from a side glance, confuse you with Caleb sometimes, your older brother. And just 'cause like the side or I don't know, you're like not like staring at them in the eyes. Like you would know then, but like I told Caleb the other day, I was like, sit right here. And I was like, oh. You don't have to. I was like, so I can see that happening. - Yeah. - Especially you guys spend a lot of time together. - Did that weird you out when you got them confused? You're like, oh God. Oh man. - Yeah, luckily it was just in my mind. So I was just like, like it's never happened where I'm like, I don't know, accidentally touching Boston. - You're not like kissing and you're like, oh whoops, kissed the wrong brother. Like that's never. - Yeah. - Okay. - Luckily that's never happened, but yeah, it's weird. Sometimes they sound the same and I'm like, what is going on? - You guys need a pranker at some point. Brooklyn and Bailey. It was dirty, you guys. They pranked their husbands. You guys know Brooklyn and Bailey? - Yes. - We had them on the show and they did like a swap prank. And I think it was Dakota that grabbed, I think it was, yeah, Brooke Bailey. He grabbed Bailey's behind. Which is not his wife. - How are you describing this? - That's crazy. - Yeah, and like, and in the video, like they filmed this whole thing in the video. - It was all real. - I thought it was the funniest video. - Yeah, yeah. - That's wild. - So you guys gotta do that to her sometimes. - Oh my God, please don't. - I'm just kidding. - That might be-- - Maybe after the mission. - Oh gosh. - That's funny. But I was gonna ask, like growing up, was it like, okay, this is kind of Brock's thing. This is Boston's thing. Like, or did you guys, like, were you guys always like, we have the same interests, like always want to do the same things? - I feel like we kind of grew up like completely different. I was more into like sports and stuff. Boston was more of, I don't know. He loved doing like, he loved making money, like doing random side hustles. - Okay, yeah. - Mr. Entrepreneur over here. - Yeah, he's also Mr. Action. - My family's entrepreneurs. - Were you a theater? Like, did you do theater? - Almost got into Disney. - Wait, what? I couldn't see. I could totally see that. - I took dance, did you guys ever take dance growing up? Did you guys do like-- - Oh wait, Brock, we actually did. We did hip-hop and-- - I did break dancing. - Break dancing, yeah. - No way. - I wish I would've taken break dancing. That's so dope. - You should've. - Can you guys spin on your heads? - Didn't get to that level, but-- - I think we actually did like one or two lessons, and then after that we were done. - We were like, we lost interest. - Yeah. - That's funny. - We should enroll Griffin in that-- - I wanna enroll our kids. - Please do it. - I'm also like, should I give them private lessons? 'Cause I used to, like, I had private tap lessons. - You used to break dance? - I did private-- - You can tap, you can teach me how to tap dance. - I can tap dance. - Oh, that's so cool. - I need to whip, I've never tapped on TikTok ever. I feel like I should do that in a video. - You should. - Oh, do it. - Yeah, it'd be kind of fun. - It'd be crazy. - Sorry, we're getting distracted. - So you guys had separate interests growing up, but you guys always got along. - Uh-huh, yeah. - That's-- - It's always good buddies. - It's been good, yeah. What's your love story? How'd you guys meet? - She remembers it better than I do, so. - Okay, so my friend and I just went to the movies, and they were there with their cousin and uncle and stuff. And this is, so I had a channel with my family, and they apparently watched it 'cause of their sister. And so they noticed me and my friend, and came up and was like, "Hey, can we get a picture?" So I took a picture with them, not really like, nothing crazy there, but I remember I went home and I thought it was crazy 'cause it was boys who came up to me, you know? Like I've never had boys take pictures with me. So I went to my mom and I was like, "Look, this was crazy." They tagged me in their photo, like boys took pictures with me. - Boys took pictures with me. - How old did you think that Brock was though? - Oh my gosh, the thing is, Brock was here to me. He was tiny, so I literally thought he was like my brother's age, which he was-- - Do you still have that picture? - Yeah, we do. - Yeah, we do. - You need to send it to us. - We'll send it. - I would have to see this. - Yeah, but he was super short, and so I didn't think anything of it, right? But then I told my mom, I was like, "Oh, look at these kids, they were so nice and stuff." - Look at these kids. - Same age as me, bud. - And then my mom did some investigating and just looked at their account 'cause they had a combined account, and realized they were my age and they have their own YouTube channel. And so then my mom was like, "We should go, "we should go and collab with them." So we set up a time to collaborate. - No, we were the ones that DM'd you guys. - Oh, really? - Yeah, we set that up. - And asked to collab? - Yeah. - Oh, that's right. - Wait, did you guys both have family channels? - I can't remember. - I think you were. - Was it your parents that were doing the channel, and then you guys were in the channel? Or how did that work? - I was in the family channel. They-- - And we were just together on our own, yeah. - It was just Brock and Boston. - Okay, okay, nice. - So yeah, it was, yeah, just collaborated, and then we all became friends there. And then two years later, probably when we were 16, is when we really started dating. - Ah, okay. - Like 15, 16, yeah. - Oh, so it wasn't 14 and 15, it was 15 and 16. - We met 14, started dating 15. - I was 13, I think, when I met you. - Oh, wow. - I think I was 13, yeah. And then we started dating. - And you're a year older. Was that-- - I'm six months older. - Six months older, okay. - Cougar. - Wow. - Yeah. - That's like Caleb and Abby. - That's wild. - Pretty crazy. - Pretty crazy. - Yeah, so we, we, yeah, collaborated and then hung out, started dating. - That was basically it, yeah. - Yeah. - That's sweet. So you guys have both, like have all done YouTube for, like since you were kids. - Sixth grade, we were vlogging in elementary. - Yeah. - That's wild. - And you guys, whose idea was it to start YouTube? - So it was my idea, 'cause like we were, I mean, we grew up like watching YouTubers and stuff, like that was kind of the thing. We started, we stopped watching just like regular TV. And then I remember, like Brock was over at our cousin's house and I called him up and I'm like, "Dude, come over here, we're gonna film a video." Alyssa said that our sister, she's gonna edit it and we'll put it all together. So we did it, it was like a Q and A or something. And then like a couple days later, we hit like a hundred subscribers and we were just freaking out. We couldn't believe it. - We're a big deal. - Our big break. - Yeah. - That's sweet. - What was the moment for you guys when you were like, "Oh, we made it." 'Cause for me, that was getting the silver YouTube play button. Was there something like that for you guys that felt really cool? - I think even earlier when we got like the 10,000 subscriber email from YouTube, we were just up like all night waiting for it to hit 10,000. We're like, "Please, please, please." So I feel like that was insane. - Yeah, that was right after we posted our first collab video with the Leroys. And then after that we hit 10,000 and we just were, yeah, could not believe it. - No, I didn't realize this. So you guys, like you were collabing with your family's channel and then your family had been, like how long had your family been vlogging on YouTube or creating content on YouTube? - Yeah. I was in sixth grade too. And I think when we started growing followers was probably when I was in seventh grade. And yeah, it started with like my mom and I. We called it a whole different name. It was called Raising Mom. And it was just gonna be like our relationship 'cause I'm really close to my mom. And it was so fun, but we started filming around with the family and they loved it too. And so we're like, "Oh, let's just change it to the Leroys." And so we filmed, you know, like just our daily lives and stuff. And people caught on. Caught on to it and it was fun. It was really fun, yeah. - Was there ever a time through being in the public eye for so long that something like got posted or something that got shared that you guys were like, "Oh wait, I wish I could take that back." something like that you wanted private that went public i don't know if you guys want to keep this in but like um when you guys like broke up for a second and then the video on tiktok how that girl was like taking pictures and then posted that from the cheer competition there was a girl leaking something about you guys without your permission that's so sad so you guys are like teenagers and you're just navigating like dating and you're on a small break and some girl leaked it is that what happened well so we we came out and said like we we were on a small break but then we got back together and we didn't really want to be in the public eye like that fast so we kind of just took a break but we went out in public and it's just a girl saw us and we're like they're back together so yeah so you got tens of thousands yeah of of likes it was crazy seeing yeah it was it was okay like it didn't bother me too much but it was just funny yeah like it things spread really fast that's wild but and you guys yeah for what like 17 16 when this happened like 17 yeah 17 yeah that's so crazy it seems like like both of your families are really close like you guys are all like really close with like your parents and like your siblings and stuff and it just makes me wonder like what did your parents do that you think growing up that like made like having a relationship with them as adults so like seeming it seems like easy and fun like enjoyable for you guys oh that's a good question i would say i feel like my parents did a really good job of like taking care of us like making sure we're doing the right things but they also weren't too strict because i've seen like with some other friends where their parents are super strict and they like really sneaky kids yeah so like i feel like my parents did a good job of that they're like hey you can always talk to us also don't do dumb stuff but also go have fun i feel like they had a good balance of yeah oh 100 percent yeah what do you say to your mom because i feel like you have a good relationship with your yeah my mom she i mean she she knows that like everyone's gonna make mistakes right and so she would tell me like oh i did this like it's okay like you're you know just she always made me feel comfortable to tell her things like if i did make a mistake like i would be able to tell her and be like what do i do you know but um yeah they were they weren't super strict they had a lot of trust in me and that i felt like as a as a teen was like okay like i don't want to lose my parents trust so you know i'm not going to stay out too late and if if i wanted to like i could text them they'd be like yeah sure you know but it was just always like a just a lot of trust and they always communicated with me really 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yeah but i mean i look at myself i look at myself six years ago i'm like oh my gosh i was still so young like that's that's so unique yeah they they just they wanted to help us out they also got married at like 18 yeah and so they're all young getting married yeah it's like this is this is the regular yeah maybe that's a little too late well that's super common in utah right yeah people often thought like still i think there's people that think that we're lds because of how young we got married yeah yeah the stereotype yeah we're actually very late for like the utah like you know this i feel like they're kidding yeah yeah what's the standard age like 18 19 no yeah i'm waiting like that's like normal like i'm about to be way you're 21 you're a grandpa i'm stressing guys i'm stressing he should have had kids like two years ago you don't have seven children yet what are you doing boston oh no come on literally yeah it's it's crazy so i don't know i they were supportive though like they that's sweet they were very supportive well because i listened to you guys on a podcast that was posted five months ago and you guys were still dating five months ago yeah that's what it said that is crazy so you guys how how many months so four months ago you got engaged is that is that correct we got engaged in september okay math what is that that's september to october so that's like almost five months yeah it's been it's when you guys got engaged almost five months ago you've now been married for three months okay yeah that's a great wedding together pretty quick yeah yes we did was it big was it big yeah um i don't know what's a what a big wedding like it's like what would you say is like a huge wedding i think the wedding is like 200 200 plus we had 200 plus i'm pretty sure yeah i think you had 200 people rolling in yeah so it was a big wedding i guess and did you have like a temple wedding and then like a after party like reception sort of thing is that how that works yeah that's dope yeah so we got married in the temple that morning and then later we had like a lunch and then we did a little ceremony we did a little ceremony and yeah vows and stuff and then the reception and stuff nice awesome so you guys are newly newlyweds yeah yeah you're as newlywed as they come literally but you guys have some history too so do you feel like the transition has like been pretty smooth yeah yeah hasn't been yeah i feel like it's been pretty chill we were already with each other so much yeah it's like the only thing different is like now we're with each other at night yeah yeah i mean there's a couple things like toilet paper that she kind of does wrong like a little arguments but you're like no no it's been awesome that's sweet i feel like we've been loving it it's been so much better for us to just be married and that's instead of just like hanging out and yeah you guys were patient very patient what is something that you've learned about one another since getting married oh my goodness the toilet paper it goes on top is this a disagreement is this something that you guys disagree about the way the toilet paper we talked about actually in the video but it's just i know that's something but she's getting so much better she's doing so good i don't really care how the toilet paper goes but he does so it's like okay who's the messy one he's messy i'm not messy i'm i we if we took a picture of our house right now you'd see she has patches out she probably has makeup stuff on the counter i guess is she the spender i feel like we do a good job we actually both spend yeah they're both spenders it's not a good situation you're deep in thought right now what's what are your honest thoughts about them or yeah who's the spender who's the messy one i don't know i feel like you guys are like boston would say i was messed i don't say you guys are like spent like spenders but like you guys like are you you guys save your money we're thrifting we're thrifty yeah did you feel like everyone was putting the pressure on you now that your brother your identical twin brother is getting married you're like yeah i honestly not really like i feel like there hasn't been a whole lot of pressure with that so i'm chilling okay i'm gonna hit you guys with like a really deep question right now so this is like too deep okay just take a deep breath let me stretch through rainbow i teach my kids to do rainbow breaths like whenever they're like you know something if they're upset we'll do i'll like lead them in the rainbow breath i just i just way overhyped this basically yeah like what the hell here we go here's a question what is this i don't know why i'm making this so weird okay what is i'm sorry wow okay what is something unplanned that happened to you that changed the trajectory of your life oh i know it wait if you know it then just say it oh okay wait for you or for for that either way he's just thinking about us wait what is it no wait no no i was thinking about that i was thinking about something completely different yeah wait what is it i want to know no wait not this is offered come on the thing that like changed our life i feel like the most was probably when our family got in a plane crash i saw that video pop up and i was just like that's crazy wild yeah i think the craziest thing about that like like looking into it is like most people that have been in a plane crash like don't you don't ever hear their stories like that is wild i think there were like it was i think there were six plane like small plane crashes in utah that summer and we were some of the only survivors yeah crazy so how old were you yeah we were 16 years old it was just with our family so it was well actually just with our parents and then uh the pilot and his wife and so we yeah we were flying over actually um it's kind of crazy um well you guys know brooklyn and bailey right yeah okay did they talk about on their on how dakota and them met with like their dating series and stuff i think they did yeah okay so that was the day so like dakota lives um in that area like where we were flying our plane and everything and they were on the date and we're like okay while you guys are on the date like we'll go um for like a little small ride for a short ride in the small plane and so that's what happened like we were flying over the uintah mountains and then we lost power and then yeah we ended up crashing okay so yeah holy that that is probably like on my on on the list of like most terrifying things you could experience a plane crash walk me through like every step of what went down from from hearing that oh the plane's going down the engine's not working that it was gonna go down yeah it's like i think he's like oh my god i'm gonna go down i'm gonna go down i'm gonna go down i'm gonna go down he said like we're gonna have to land yeah he said it's gonna be hard okay so so you guys wow okay first of all why were you guys in a private plane why were you guys just like flying over the mountains literally just for just for fun like the pilot really good buddy of ours he's just like hey we'll go up and just fly around and stuff for a sec and then we can come back and just chill and everything and this is just a family this is a family friend and and how is this family friend like how does this connect to brooklyn and bailey and dakota so dakota is friends with uh shad and jaslyn so the pilot is the pilot yeah okay okay yeah got it and chad or chad yeah yeah that is right that's such a rad name yeah oh my gosh okay so shad just like said to you guys and your parents hey i'm gonna go take a take a little flight around the mountains in utah you guys want to come it was literally that simple yeah and we were like kind of joking around too like do we need a pair of shoes ha ha ha whatever and like we were recording instagram stories and then our dad was actually doing like a family vlog so we have it like all recorded too and everything like before like or when we were actually in the air so like we got into the plane like brock and i were in the very back our mom and the pilot's wife were in the middle and then shad and my dad were up front and like we were just flying around and stuff and then brock um you post on like your snapchat or whatever oh yeah i had a snapchat story of me in the plane i'm like might die but you know the vibes and then there's a video and then actually like that next day uh i took like a picture and it's just of all my bruises from the seat belt and stuff so it's like you see that picture and that video and then you see like did that get posted in the air like did you know it didn't get posted so i literally just saved it i didn't like post it but that would have been wild if it got posted how long were you guys in the air before the plane went down wasn't it like i think it's like 15 minutes i think it's like 15 minutes we were in the air and then it was like pretty sure it wasn't like 12 seconds between when we were like okay we need to go we're landing we need to go down and then oh my gosh only 12 seconds yeah so that was actually the craziest yeah wow we just had a million things like running through our head i remember i remember literally seeing the plane and like even like seeing the ground too when we were going down i'm like am i good enough like what what's gonna happen to my body like i had all these different thoughts go through my mind and then what were you thinking about the time when we were going down i was just saying a prayer i was like what else can you do like you're just i don't know stuff you can't there's nothing else to do so i just like said a prayer and then i remember just like i was like holding onto my seat or something and then like we were yeah bracing for impact and then it was just like a crunch and then it was just black like and then oh my gosh you passed out i think yeah i think everyone everyone blacked out because that's how hard the impact was yeah was this like a nosedive no i feel like it's more of like a hit where i don't know it felt like an instant like just like a like a bomb like a bomb and a little bit of a slide so i just uh-huh what and then this is my question too you landed next to a lake when you when you land a plane that's crashing or you're you're like trying to navigate a plane crash is it good to land in water because i know the guy that landed the lake in the hudson blacked out in the hudson well the hudson river guy who landed the he uh they made a movie about him he landed the plane in the in the hudson river so like is there a reason that he landed not in the water yeah yeah it was like purely just because he like literally like felt i don't know prompted to yeah prompted to go and land on the so there's three three options you had the the lake you also had the sand like the beach area and then the sagebrush sagebrush flat uh that area and he literally just felt prompted he's like i need to go and land here because if i do any of the these other things it's gonna kill everyone so he like gonna flip yeah he literally just had those thoughts and so he went uh and decided on the sagebrush flat and then of course a lot of people got hurt but no one died and that is a miracle that no one like yeah and there's people close by yeah yeah which is it looks so remote so that's kind of surprising yeah it was yeah so it's pretty far out it was out in this place called moon lake and there's actually an emt that was on site that happened to see our plane going down like right in between these like two pine trees and they're just about to head out yeah and so he's like that doesn't look right i gotta go he said a running yelled at his son to go grab like their med kit and stuff and they came running they came they came running towards our plane which had that med kit like had the iv something or whatever that supported my dad ended up saving our dad's life if if they didn't have it in time that is so wild because your dad had some of the worst injuries of everybody right he broke like everything except literally except for his arms yeah he broke he broke what his like pelvis his legs legs yeah like everything they both had spinal cord injuries bleeding everywhere bleeding out of his ears it was wild how many minutes did it take for the paramedic to respond i think for that well uh the other like there was an ambulance too that was doing another training that was like 45 minutes away or like way closer than where the hospital was yeah so it was like another miracle that they were able to get people to come to us um but yeah i can't i can't remember how long it was because you could have landed anywhere like the mountains yeah if it was minutes before we would have been we would have been on the other side of the mountain nobody would have seen us yeah no way we could have landed and i remember on the video they said that he thought to turn off the engine or else it would have probably like exploded oh gone up in flames yeah yeah so the plane didn't catch on fire uh-uh but there's like fuel leaking out the side of the plane it was a hot summer day like like the best things happened um in a bad in the worst you probably don't necessarily like hearing that though because you're like this was a scary traumatic thing but like just like thinking about something like that happening and the way that you guys were able to like share about it honestly so quickly afterwards because i watched the video like right after it had happened i think you had like your dad was still in the hospital and like i was like they clearly have like talked about this as a family as well as you can like to start processing that type of thing and my question is like you guys flew here yeah now it's flying does it feel separate because it's like a bigger plane and commercial or like yeah is there still like a fear associated with that how do you not have a like because i'm afraid of flying and i've never been in a plane crash yeah i feel like in the beginning right after our plane crash i was fine i'm like oh i could go on a plane like this would be fine and then i swear it was like three months later we're going on a flight and i was just like stressed out of my mind and then ailer just took my mom to just yell at me and be like we're getting on a flight it's gonna be fine and therapy yeah literally i'm a little bit of yelling oh my god you're like crying and you're like mom i'm terrified just get on the plane so yeah yeah she's probably like what is it gonna happen again how is your mom not traumatized from that your mom seems like a bulldozer dude yeah she's awesome she's awesome kessley what was your reaction to hearing about uh your like at the time boyfriend almost dying in a plane crash ex-boyfriend your ex-boyfriend oh you were apart well we were kind of in a weird like phase i guess like i guess you could say we were on a break but um we were still talking so we were kind of together but it was it's actually funny because i was at the hair salon so i was at the hair salon getting my hair done and both brock and i are just snapchatting back and forth and he's like i don't know how he had service on the plane but he had service on the plane and so he was like yeah look i'm in the plane i was like oh that's crazy and then i was like i'm in the plane and i was like oh that's crazy and then i was like there was a second there where i was left on delivered for a second and the last thing i saw was he was in the plane so i was like oh he could have lost service but then there was a thought that popped up in the back of my mind that was like what if he got in a plane crash like i don't know i don't know what it was like nothing nothing could have led me to think that but i just did i was just like what if like that would be scary and then like two seconds later our friend our manager came out of the plane crash and i started flipping out and like i have like my bleach in my hair and foils and everything and i was flipping out like my mom was there and i was like mom brock and boston got in a plane crash i had no idea if they survived because like you said instantly you think like oh yeah no one's there you know but um we later found out that like everything was fine just lots of like injuries and stuff but it was just the scariest like i could not focus that whole night like i don't know it was the craziest experience though and this this break like did did hearing about the plane crash make you want to get back together in a weird way was that like something that you were like i love him i need him like i don't know i feel like yeah in a way we started talking like a lot more because this break was dumb you know we were like high school almost middle school relationship i guess you could say you know So it was just a dumb argument, and then, you know, this little thing that happened is just kind 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important and like tell everyone that like you love them and yeah i just yeah i didn't say yeah the biggest takeaway is like it made life more meaningful in a way or like it made it feel like okay like we got a like we got a second chance chance at life that's good and this break was this the same break we talked about earlier was this like another break in addition to the original break how many breaks were there actually wait that might have been that might have been a different break oh wow we had like we had two breaks i think yeah like where we were like we were like technically broken up but we're like we're still we're still we were still talking like nothing you know we weren't dating other people it was just like we never went too long without like contacting each other these breaks were really short too it was dumb wow yeah and also circling back to like you guys deciding to like kind of date but then obviously it's gonna look so differently like when you're both on your mission like that was really mature to be like yeah like we're probably we'd like to stay together but also like holding it like open-handedly like you know if it works out like that's really mature whereas i feel like us and we were we dated in high school too we would have been like we are like we were just like it's us immature yeah oh for sure i mean it really was yeah we were like there's no other option we were staying together but like it was yeah that's just like the high school crazy hormones and passions yeah that's no it's true i feel like we totally would have thought that but like in reality two years is a lot yeah and so that's realistic like yeah and so we were thinking you know if if we get to stay together after the mission like that's gonna be the best thing but like if there's other plans you know like it's gonna suck but we'll you know go go with it so what was that conversation like after the mission you guys coming back together who who is the person that said are we are we doing this like who said it first i don't i don't know i think come on you know who was it i mean i don't know i don't know because that's private you know i would i i on the mission i would pray i think about kessie like every day like that's just like kind of what i would do so i don't i think i was kind of ready but by the time i got home like she knew i loved her and stuff and that i wanted to continue to keep dating and everything but i would say it wasn't up until like our trip we took a trip together actually it was like a week after i got home yeah a week after you got home to yeah to like alabama um went down back by the beach and stuff and then we came back home up to tennessee and then we just kept talking about like getting together logistics of it when we want to do it and then it was like then when we made the decision right yeah it was i feel like it was mutual i think we were both like this is a huge step like are we ready for that but then yeah it just we all we thought of like the logistics and things and everything just led to like getting married and so i think yeah i think like some other parts too is like kess and i've been together forever i also came home and i was like i'm gonna go to tennessee i'm gonna go to tennessee i'm gonna go to tennessee and i was able to see her for a little bit so like we we went it was like 18 months without seeing each other yeah and so that was like another thing is we also like had our missions line up to being i don't know three weeks apart from being able to see each other when we got home so it's pretty cool too kind of random but you dropped you jogged my memory when you talked about praying don't latter-day saints not believe in hell but there's like different levels of heaven so it's like everyone has an afterlife but depending on you know you know x y and z you end up in a different like realm is that correct yes yeah so we believe yes yes we believe that so like we believe like if you were i don't know to if you were to be baptized enter in all the covenants that you're supposed to like these special promises with god that you'll be able to live in like a celestial glory and then there's also one that's like like we compare celestial glory to like the sun like it's as bright as the sun yeah and then we compare like yeah then we have terrestrial which is another one it's like compared to the brightness of the star the stars right oh the moon sorry i'm getting mixed up but then there's then there's telestial where it's like the brightness of like the moon and stuff and then we also do believe like that there's hell but it's kind of hard to get there yeah because he wants all of his kids at the end at the end of the day yeah like you could be with him even if you had like a really bad kid that's kind of like doing everything wrong like you still like would want to like love them and help them out and so that's why we have jesus christ he comes into play help us out and through him we can repent and become better and you've said through your mission that it kind of helped you get out of your shell what was it about the mission that did that for you before the mission that's pretty social um well actually not crazy social i feel like the mission was where it hit me where i'm like i need to be talking to more people and stuff and i actually learned a language too on my mission so i got a experience like a whole new culture and i was just talking to people every day facing rejection of just inviting someone to church and having someone like cussed out at me like i had like all those experiences and stuff and so i feel like i kind of did break out of my shell on my mission um what was the what who is this guy that cussed you out dude there's a couple more than one oh yeah oh yeah could you count the times that you got cussed out on one hand or is it like multiple hands it i feel like it'd be multiple hands no way who are these people that are cussing people out i shouldn't laugh that's so bad there's one guy down on uh so this street called everett uh down in massachusetts this one guy he'll yell at you every single time if you invite him to church or if you just say like anything to him if you have your white shirt on your tie if you put like a black name tag on he'll yell at you he'll he'll literally yell at you i promise bro why are missionaries going incognito i feel like you guys should show up in like like normal clothes yeah nobody would know bro you go in like blitzkriegs right like nobody has any idea yeah i know is that a conversation they're like in the church yeah yeah well i think there are some missions that it's like you just like wear regular clothes or that's the thing yeah there's missions where where the missionaries do not wear standard like like the proselyte yeah the dress shirt short sleeve khakis helmet if you're on a bike like that's not like what's what's the mission where they're wearing street clothes i'm so curious well okay in my mission there we actually had um reservations so like um indian reservations in montana there's a lot of those and so when we us sisters weren't allowed to serve there because it's just a little dangerous but the elders when they go and serve there they were able to wear like jeans and a t-shirt and they were able to wear like jeans and a t-shirt because like a big like the suit and tie it's very intimidating it's just you know like yeah yeah not a good fit so they were able to wear like t-shirts and stuff but a lot of areas like different missions aren't even allowed to go like door to door or like talk to people about and like teach them you know like some missions they can only just do service like just help people out there's no proselyting just straight service yeah yeah so why why is that is it because of the culture they don't they don't want yeah just like culture and different laws too okay so yeah it all just depends on where you're at so what type of service are you doing honestly anything like you could i don't know like we'd be doing dishes we'd be on a food bank it's like we'd do any type of service we could get our hands on so if you need help if anyone needs help you literally call up the missionaries they will hook you up wait that's kind of dope so if there's someone like struggling in right life right now yeah you they could just call up like a local lds mission and be like could someone help me like they help people move all the time do you want to help me move wait i packed up yeah i packed up like two houses like the whole house no way my companion and then some other people you guys are gonna put moving companies out of business no man seriously no legitimately they're the best movers because actually our friends were like no like we'll get you we'll help you move you do not need to hire someone come to find out it was like members of our church i was like i am not going to steal that years but i remember it was like getting settled who was this that offered caitlyn he's like seriously no my ward they're great and i was like no offered up her ward to move us last year oh my god and they'll do it they'll happily do it too that's like the crazy part it's like they'll do it with a smile on their face is that the most common is moving people cleaning houses i mean i helped out with like branding cows and stuff in montana so branding cows with that sad were you sad branding the cows it was sad at first but then my my friend made a point where it's like if you don't brand the cows then people can steal them and kill them oh yeah so it was like that made me feel better i was like okay they're just like marking their territory i guess wow it's a little it is sad holy cow also random random question i've got on my notes here you guys bought a house at 17 can you talk to us about that how how the crap what in the youtube how did you guys buy a house at 17 yeah so we we've just been doing youtube forever and stuff and one of the things we wanted to get into is like home diy real estate real estate we've always been like big fans of i know property brothers yeah property yeah we watch those guys so that's just like something we wanted to do and opportunity came up when we were in tennessee and yeah saved up all our money and then spent all our money and we sold the house after we sold the renovations to it so like it was actually cool uh well when we when we moved to tennessee we were in high school we were only there for like a semester and then we decided to switch to online and then for when we were doing online one of our classes like we could do was like i don't know we figured out a way that like with the house renovations and with like me turning into business stuff yeah we could turn it into a credit if we like do things about it yeah and so we renovated a house like learned all these skills like well painting that's like our nightmare now oh now you're like no painting never painting again like oh we'll tile we'll do like we'll make beams we'll do why why paint is why is that the fear oh you just gotta be an artist if you want to do painting like we just like be painting and you just see like a like a spot like off yeah it was just too much for us we couldn't do it was that hard on your brotherhood to i mean people always say don't renovate a house with your spouse like with your spouse because it's like oh yeah testing your marriage yeah was that hard for you guys or were you like i mean with him i can yell at him so i'm like it was fine we also had our dad he's an electrician and stuff so he taught us awesome yeah so we gotta learn yeah there were so many skills that we got to learn in that year year and a half yeah did you turn around for a profit about that but you lost money on the house no i think we kind of broke even we split even we broke even with like the renovations yeah we got credit for school and then we also got to like learn all these people have to pay for credits usually so we did some yeah deal deals like you learned a lot yeah yeah it was awesome a question i have for you boston is you chose to like delay going on a mission for a period of time like did you it was there a time where you're like i'm not gonna do one or like did you just have a different plan for after high school yes for sure so like after high school it's like pretty common for members members of our faith to go on missions and for me i was like oh yeah i'm gonna go on a mission i'm gonna go on a mission i'm gonna go on a mission like i just like was not like i was being prayerful about it but like was not getting a for sure answer and i'm like i'm not gonna do it if i don't have like a for sure answer like i need to know that this is right for me so anyways brock started like filling out his papers to like submit for a mission and everything and i was like ah this just isn't it like you like you do you or whatever and then like right before brock was leaving on his mission um like it was like a couple days or whatever um we were at the beauty supply and we were like oh my god i'm gonna go on a mission and i was like oh my god i'm gonna go on a mission and i was like oh my god i'm gonna go on a mission and my mom was like getting like this haircut stuff for brock to bring and he turned to me he's like dude are you so glad you're not going on a mission because like brock was like so sad and like just like depressed honestly like it was just like i've never had more anxiety in my entire life that's a scary thing to do i was about to leave yeah because you guys do everything together right yeah you guys have been like conjoined was that the hardest part or like i'm sure there's a lot of hard parts i think the hardest part was leaving her yeah i can't was leaving him too yeah yeah and you're just doing something where like you're just completely you're just doing something where you're just away from like all your comfort yeah it's so weird like i'm just gonna go to brazil to try and pick up a language live with a bunch of random dudes i've never met in my entire life and then you're like yeah i'm glad i was like yeah i'm glad i'm not doing it i'm glad i'm not doing it after seeing all of this because like it was just a rough it was a rough week at our house before brock brock left but that's so sad and you have an older sister too did she go on one or were you the first in your family okay first in the family first generation what are you most excited for with your mission do you know where you're going do you know yeah oh you do yeah i saw the video man i haven't seen the video where oh wait where are you going i'm talking about with his grandparents oh yes yes yeah so so everybody knows everybody except for me you're ready for it wait what's your guess though what's your guess oh gosh it could be in the country it could be like in the united states or be out of the country now i'm gonna feel dumb because i feel like someone told me and i just forgot i'm gonna i'm gonna say out of the country right or wrong wrong i'm right is it in the country you're right where are you going i'm so excited no it's vancouver canada that's cool oh my gosh dude that's where they had the olympic the winter olympics like 10 years ago oh yeah or maybe it was like 20 years ago i'm 27 language no english and i'm like so happy about it i know there's a lot of french right well because french and i had a buddy that did california and he had to learn spanish for california yeah because there's a lot of spanish speaking people there yeah uh-huh so english and then i'll be there for like the anticipated time is 24 months so we'll see if i hit the two-year mark i'm here to just try it out so and you worked a corporate job for a little bit in there too i did for a little bit i was climbing that corporate ladder not nine to five and you gave it up yeah well uh i was doing social media and doing that that's a lot dude that's a lot to do that's two full-time jobs at the same time yeah uh-huh it was yeah it was fun though i loved i was actually it was for this company called betty's which is actually my mom's company it's like zipper bedding we actually have that upstairs yeah our kids both of them sleep in them we have the football one and the dinosaur one we figured that out yesterday we were like wait a second your mom made our kids sleep in them and we're like oh my god we're gonna sleep in them and we're gonna our kids we love them we've shared about them yeah that's so cool yeah yeah that's so like they can actually make their own bed and they're three years old and then yeah were you guys like the poster child of betty's when you were kids we were the ones that like made her start it we were the ogs yeah no way yeah why is that genius because so with bunk beds it's like trying to get in there and like they have your bed okay yeah and it's like so hard to like go around the edges and like tuck 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like times where i could take videos of myself and stuff and like send it to him but um As for like social media stuff, we didn't have YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, or anything anything like that on our phone when we had facebook and then we actually got facebook taken away out of our mission just because i know there's 18 19 year old kids that are on missions they're gonna scroll facebook reels was there somebody that abused it and yeah yeah what happened what did this kid do he probably was watching some reels and then not working and being focused and stuff and so uh yeah there's i think there's a couple kids that happened too and so they took it out of our mission but um yeah we still had like other social media stuff that within our mission do you feel like you guys are less addicted than the average like 20 something like early 20 year old because you had to like delete everything for two years year and a half or did it make it the reverse happen like when you got back you're like i'm back you didn't like want your phone when you came back right was that kind of like the case yeah when i came home i just like i didn't really want to be on my phone it was hard posting on social media again so i was like i don't really know what i'm doing but i don't know i feel like because i was away from it for so long i did jump right back into like being on my phone all the time which i'm trying to be better at that but yeah i don't know i feel like we do pretty good because we i feel like we try and create more than we just consume i feel like that's a pretty good thing that we've all been doing yeah i feel like i don't scroll reels as much as i used to and okay boston you gotta fill me in man what's yes what's the the latest with like are you in a relationship now is that is that a secret that's how we get so can we talk about that what's going on not not right now so i know kind of sad but i have my mission that i'm looking forward to and then we'll see if something happens happens there and then yeah yeah i know there's something there's something that was posted i think where you were like maybe in a relationship i didn't know if that was just like allegedly allegedly oh it's allegedly yeah oh well no he was going he's been going on dates he's always been going on dates okay i think that's fun i feel like i heard about you utah's dating culture like you guys go on dates more than yeah obviously you guys were in tennessee when we moved to tennessee that was like the one thing like even with like school dances like a lot of people like if you ask someone to a dance it's like almost as if like you're dating them like your girlfriend boyfriend but it's like in utah it's like you can just like yeah go on like hey go to the stands with me let's go on a date yeah uh-huh yeah so i just kind of kept that like more private but and okay and brock fill me in on the on the suit that you wore at your wedding oh i know i saw that that video went viral bro i got roasted no i got flames i don't even get it matt was trying to explain to me i'm like i don't see that that's a problem yeah so i mean it isn't a problem right i don't get it okay okay so basically i wore a suit and i had like this fortnight print on the inside no one's gonna see the inside of your suit unless you like flash it open and stuff i'm like oh this would be like super funny kessa and i we love playing fortnight together it's kind of like what our dates consisted of when we were long distance and stuff so i'm like this would be fun and so i ended up putting fortnight inside my suit i posted a tiktok about it and then people were like flaming me they're like ain't no way he's got fortnight inside of his suit like is this kid even old enough to get married i'm like okay i guess it's a little immature but that checks out that's just fun yeah yeah you should have been like actually my parents got married at 18 so i'm like way more mature than they were that was an example of something that the commons could have gone so many different ways but it's just like whatever took hold at the beginning just took hold and then everyone just repeats the same comment yeah yeah no it's true like well you know what this is meaningful for us actually and either way it's just the inside of your suit yeah that's funny i feel like there's also like comments too that were defending him you know they were like well let the guy like be able to like you know do something the girl gets all her stuff and then i got my one thing was that's a good idea though to have like something fun on the inside of your i've never heard of that yeah it was cool i thought it was fun i i didn't really care i was like this is cool yeah my wedding i got all my groomsmen crazy socks so somebody had hawaiian socks we had pickle socks we had just like a bunch of different fun i think somebody had like i'm surprised you even got that organized in time i actually went to marshall's and bought a bunch of socks that was yeah good that's so awesome that's fun it was really fun yeah it's unique and now okay i know you guys are like have been married for like two weeks but okay like more than that but like have you guys talked about kids or have you guys talked about your kids or have you guys talked about your kids do you guys want to have kids do you do not even know yet because you've only been married for so little i mean i guess you could say we don't really know yet but we've talked about it and right now we just want to travel enjoy the time like we can enjoy our time yeah where do you guys want to travel bali anywhere and everywhere like that's like the dream right now just because like we we didn't really travel for like two years and stuff we're like you know we're gonna go and have fun and explore so definitely think bali yeah brazil yeah we want to go to brazil i want to go to brazil it would be sick so just like really fun like cool places because i feel like after going to montana and like seeing montana because i've i've been to a couple of different states but montana was just gorgeous it made me realize like oh wow there's so much more out that's so good you guys that's so fun being being in your early 20s traveling the world together just yeah there's just so much in store for you guys that's super exciting yeah we yeah we're excited we love traveling so do you have any more questions should we play our game we okay agree to disagree if you guys are down we have prepared agree to disagree for us to play addy do you have the paddles ready to go official oh let's go okay let's go okay guys this is this is big we this is our first time ever using these agree to disagree well i don't or is it just them i think it's just them well yeah okay um apparently it's just you guys playing agree to disagree all right let's go okay i'll go you want to vote too okay i guess addy's i mean abby's gonna play too no i'm not actually okay no you should play come on play all right we're getting crazy with the first one here we go question number one i've tasted coffee is that too far no i have both brock and i did actually probably the same day no way we're going to he double hockey sticks no wait what's the story it looks like a good drink from starbucks yeah yeah i've had coffee before and it could be good i just like didn't really care for it though yeah i don't think you'd like it if okay so we i'm not gonna out this person but our friend is a member of the church like would ask us every single day because i drink coffee every morning and he's just like but like what does it taste like and i was like i don't want to lead you astray i was like but if you smell it it tastes like how it smells it smells way good it smells way it smells good but it does not taste good you gotta put creamer in it but you know what i put creamer in my soda instead okay that's fair coffee's just another thing that i feel like we'll get hooked on because then we'll be adding all the creams and like all the things i mean when you said addicted i was like yeah i mean convicted i am addicted to coffee yeah yeah that's because every time like we would stay with him i was like crap how am i gonna get coffee did you did you feel i was like actually concerned did you guys when you guys tasted coffee feel instant guilt no i don't think so i was just like oh i just wanted to try it and then yeah it just didn't taste good okay okay next question brock and boston have twin telepathy agree to disagree brock and boston have twin telepathy i'm agreeing agree why do you guys say that we just literally do we've had weird experiences where we've like been talking about something and then the person would finish the sentence where it was yeah weird especially probably because you're identical you guys are probably the same fingerprint is that true is our fingerprint no our fingerprints i think are different but like genetically like our dna is the same like their face id on their phones work or like when we're going through tsa airport and stuff wait wait shut the front door okay so your face id works on each other's phones because you guys are identical twins yeah prove it okay all right let's try my phone i'm not looking at my phone i'm not looking at my phone while boston log right on in access granted wait it says ignore your time yeah i know show the camera prove it show the camera he's in he's in that's crazy yeah oh so you do have different fingerprints though yeah yeah i think we do different dna or same dna same dna but like if we think of i know let's say i can like a a certain thing or a shape we usually can get it right so wow we could try it okay just like one thing think of it think of a fruit one don't think too hard one two three four five six seven eight nine ten nine twenty nine twenty nine twenty nine - Orange. - Orange. - Oh! - Okay, wait, wait, let's do something else. Let's do something else. You come up with it. - I don't know, we could do like some, what do you think? - An animal or something. - We could do shape. - Okay, we'll do shape, we'll do shape. - Okay, one, two, three. - Triangle. - Triangle. - Oh, I can't wait. This is actually so embarrassing. - I think it's triangle. - Wait. - Oh my gosh. - What? - Okay, wait, let's do something else. - Let's do an easy one. - Do an easy one. - I just ran. - Think of like a drink place. Three, two, one. - Oh my gosh! - Oh my gosh! - Okay, maybe we just-- - Actually, guys can't wait. We gotta come clean. - Bro, okay, you messed up. - Okay, no, it was, I thought, I was forgetting things. - You're an animal. - Okay, no, we say-- - Okay, guys, listen. - We say we have twin telepathy, and we actually have rehearsed this in the past. - No way. - So we're like, okay, when someone asks for a shape, we do triangle. - What the frick, Boston? - And when we think of something random, we say boat. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Those are like the two things. But he just-- - Remember we'll say blue? - Yeah. - Sorry, I forgot. - He went off script. - I was getting nervous. I was getting nervous. - That's funny. But you guys actually do believe you have telepathy of some sort? - I think so. - Well, there's been times where he'll talk about something, and then literally Boston, text him about the same thing like a couple minutes later and i'm like you were just talking about that or we'll like i'll get ready the same thing yeah brock's wearing the same thing like i haven't wore this i haven't worn this camo shirt in weeks and then the day that brock pulls up i'm wearing the camo did your mom guys dress you guys in the same outfits yeah a little bit when we're but like we it was like coordinating because like we had the same outfit but it was like also a different color so like that's kind brock was red i was wearing blue yeah that's cute okay next we have kelsey knows a side of brock boston oh kesley i'm so sorry do people do people call you kelsey all the time by the way yeah i called you kelsey for days like literally having no idea i was like yeah or kelsey no literally i get it all the time i respond to kelsey so okay i'm so sorry basically that's probably like a huge pet peeve of yours is being called being called the wrong name no you're good okay so we have kesley knows a side of brock boston has never seen three two one i can't vote oh agree oh i saw you change yours wait i'm trying to think i feel like i don't actually like boston wait i thought just the romantic side i guess okay yeah because like yeah it's your brother so all right there we go uh uh you fight differently once you're married oh yeah like like you have different fights once you're married i guess it's just for you guys yeah you're not married sorry yeah yeah i feel like we do just because like we have to hash things out communicate we can't just like go to bed mad at each other and stuff yeah the stakes are higher yeah did you guys have was there ever like a like a like a not like a not good no i know i think everything's been pretty good like we haven't had anything crazy most of our arguments she would be like kind of like i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i'm kind of getting mad and then i would yell like i'm mad but i'm like actually not mad and then we just like laugh about it brock is always fake mad too yeah wait what fake's mad yeah i'll call him i'll call him and then instead of like saying like hello i'm like what do you need yeah just like something like that and i'm like wait what like what's going on like are you okay but yeah he just let me just laugh about it i know i feel like i do that to you kind of a little bit you know yeah so you rage bait is what you're saying yeah he raged baits a lot wow crazy that's fun i must keep your rave about it i'm gonna keep your marriage fun though if you're like yeah i don't think we've been mad at each other but like we don't ever get mad mad yeah i'm coming up with this one on the spot but i'm gonna read it like i'm reading it off the sheet our twin relationship isn't the same now that one of us is married oh disagree yeah i feel like it's like the same yeah but we just don't live at like the same house together anymore so it's different then yeah what you're saying okay okay but like relationships like normal yeah that's sad i mean like it you know i i'm still close to my brothers but there is a huge change like when you when you get married like there's just so gosh we're fundamentally different people and even in our own marriage like we've been this summer will be seven years married and we are so different than how we started off that's awesome you know but i feel like your relationship can stay the same when you like both people change yeah but like it changes i think it's a good thing though yeah um so maybe if it hasn't like maybe and maybe i'm wrong maybe it'll never change for you guys but like it will and i feel like it'll be it'll be interesting for you to see how that evolves yeah yeah i'm curious to see like what's gonna happen after boston goes out on his mission and then when he gets married and stuff like how that will kind of pan out that would be crazy yeah but double dates then um you asked this question because i feel weird reading that one no don't do it what don't do it no don't do it who wrote these what our producer she said the wedding night isn't what it's cracked up to be you if that's too much you guys don't have to answer that we can cut that out and we said that's like some people hype it up like oh it's crazy but it's like it's it's just chill like yeah and that's awesome what would you guys say about it great i love how you turn that around on us um no i would i would actually say wait what is it wait what's the question like people overhype like it isn't cracked up wait it is i would i would say agree i i said the wedding night isn't what it's cracked up to be and i would say i would say agree and you say oh you say disagree i thought i had a great time so free oh you had a great time i mean i had a great time too i just feel like like your entire life growing up you're like wow and just like this would be the most crazy like and it's it was crazy for me okay my memory is fading i don't know and and then and then final agree to disagree question we have is wow we're really sending it here waiting till marriage is totally worth it oh yeah i agree yeah agree yeah oh that's sweet why do you guys say that i would say it's like just like it's such a special moment where you can have with your spouse and stuff i don't think yeah i think it's just it's like a way to connect that's only you two together yeah i i something that helped me like you know to save myself was just knowing that like i that's like the best gift i could give my husband is you know like a clean and pure body and i would hope he'd do the same but i i think i agree i think it's a very special thing yeah it's a connection like that you won't have anywhere else with anyone else you know we got married young too 21 and 20 when we got married so yeah it's the best um and your future is bright and so and so is yours boston oh i'm so excited for you and going on a mission that's so good you're gonna come back saying like hey you're gonna be like yes yeah well you guys this was so much fun chatting with you all thank you again for coming on the show where's the best place for people to connect with you guys thank you guys for coming on the show where's the best place for people to connect with you and like support you guys you can find us on social media yeah yeah instagram youtube yeah all platforms it's either brock and kessley or brock and boston and as always pink panther is here coach and spotify are teaming up to bring music and style together and they want you to be part of it grab your friends and head to the tabby tour hitting cities around the country with live performances from special artists exclusive experiences and personalized 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Brock and Boston, twin brothers from Utah, share a close bond despite different personalities and early-life interests.
  2. They met through a YouTube collaboration and began dating at ages 13–16, eventually marrying after a two-month engagement.
  3. Their families, especially their parents, support their early marriage, which is common in Utah due to LDS cultural norms.
  4. The brothers survived a traumatic plane crash when they were 16, which deeply impacted their lives and led to psychological trauma and recovery.
  5. A key takeaway from their story is the strength of family, faith, and resilience, especially in the face of life-threatening events.
  6. They grew up in a close-knit environment where trust, open communication, and shared values helped shape their relationships.
  7. The LDS Church's teachings, including the Word of Wisdom and the belief in modern-day prophets, play a significant role in their beliefs and daily lives.
  8. The plane crash experience, though terrifying, became a transformative moment that deepened their family ties and spiritual outlook.

Summary:

Brock and Boston, identical twin brothers from Utah, share a deeply rooted bond shaped by their upbringing, shared faith, and early-life experiences. They began collaborating on YouTube in sixth grade and developed a romantic relationship during adolescence, eventually marrying after a brief two-month engagement. Their decision to marry at 21 reflects broader cultural norms in Utah, where early marriage is common among Latter-day Saints.

A pivotal moment in their lives was a near-fatal plane crash when they were 16, during a family flight over the Uintah Mountains. The crash resulted in severe injuries, including spinal trauma for their father, but no fatalities due to a timely emergency response. The brothers recount the harrowing experience, describing the sudden loss of power, the chaos of the crash, and the immediate aftermath, which left lasting emotional and psychological impacts.

Despite the trauma, they emphasize resilience, family unity, and faith in overcoming adversity. The episode highlights both their personal journey and the wider LDS cultural context, including beliefs like the Word of Wisdom and the importance of modern prophets. Their story blends humor, vulnerability, and deep faith, illustrating how trust, communication, and shared values strengthen relationships.

The experience also underscores the strength of family bonds and the enduring power of faith in times of crisis.

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Brock and Boston were in a private plane flying over the Uintah Mountains when they lost power and crashed. The plane hit the ground with a violent impact, resulting in serious injuries for everyone on board, including their parents and the pilot. The plane landed in a remote area near Moon Lake, and a nearby emergency responder responded quickly, saving their father's life due to timely medical intervention.

The family was deeply traumatized, with the experience affecting everyone emotionally and physically. Brock and Boston shared their story with their family soon after, and their parents remained strong throughout the recovery process. The incident led to significant emotional processing, therapy, and a stronger family bond.

Missionaries are limited to calling their family once a week, typically on Mondays. They are not allowed to watch movies or date during the mission. They must stay with their companions at all times, except for bathroom breaks. Communication with family is strictly limited to focus on spiritual work.

They first met at a movie theater when they were teenagers. A boy from their friend’s group took a photo with them, which their mother noticed. After learning they had a YouTube channel, their parents suggested they collaborate. This led to a friendship, and they began dating around ages 15 to 16.

Yes, they have some subtle differences. Brock has more gray hair and a freckle on his right cheek, while Boston has a freckle on his left. These details help distinguish them, though they look very similar as babies and throughout their upbringing.

The church teaches that coffee is not recommended as part of the Word of Wisdom, a health code given to members. It is viewed as potentially addictive, and members are encouraged to avoid it to maintain good health. The Word of Wisdom also promotes eating vegetables, avoiding smoking, and moderate consumption of alcohol and coffee.

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