Bridget Bahl: The Diagnosis That Changed Everything (The Reality She Wasn’t Prepared For and the Perspective It Gave Her)

I had this beautiful wedding and I had this wonderful husband and now I have breast cancer. Cancer will stop you right in your track. My first question was, "Am I going to die?" And my second question was, "Is all of my hair going to fall out?" My oncologist did say to me, "You're not going to be able to carry a baby." But I still believe I will be a mom. You brought everyone in your community on that journey with you. So many people have become inspired by it. So many people have become saved by it. This is my purpose. Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose. The place you come to become a happier, healthier and more healed. Today's guest is someone that I've been really looking forward to having in the seat. I really believe that On Purpose was created to document and share and introduce your stories like these that hopefully help inspire your own journey, help and support you in your difficult times and give you a sense of meaning and purpose when things around you seem extremely challenging. Today I'm joined by Bridget Ball, an entrepreneur and the founder of the Fashion Brand, The Bar. Bridget has also built a powerful online community where she shares openly about faith, relationships and her life. Over the past year, Bridget's life took an unexpected turn when she was diagnosed with breast cancer. Since then, Bridget has continued to share her journey with honesty and resilience. Speaking about how experiences like this can reshape what truly matters. Please welcome to On Purpose, Bridget. Bridget, it is such a joy to have you here. I've been looking forward to this for so long. I want to first of all say how great flame that you made the trip over here. You just mentioned to me as we were walking here. This is one of the first times you've really been out of your home. I'm so thankful and appreciate you so deeply for coming. Thank you. Oh my gosh, thank you. I feel so cool that you wanted to have a year. So thank you for getting me out of the house and pushing me a little bit because I do believe that we can help people. Yeah, I'll give our comfortable the way. You're doing great. You always have the best energy when we met last time. It was like you just effortlessly create such a same space for everyone around you. I wanted to ask you for those who may be meeting you for the first time, who are hopefully in my community learning about you today. How would you describe this chapter of your life and where you are right now? I'm really trying to unpack everything that's happened in the past 15 months of being diagnosed with breast cancer, chemo, radiation, surgery, all of those things. I think I was just so insanely sick for most of the time, especially during the chemotherapy portion of it, that I wasn't really present or unpacking any of it then. You're really in survival mode. It's day by day. You're trying to get through to the next moment. I used to say day by day, I don't want to point someone said to me hour by hour. You're that sick. I feel like I'm unpacking a lot of it now. I'm definitely really raw right now. It's not this thing that I've had years to reflect on and see how this has all changed. This is happening now live in real time every day. It's really beautiful. There's just so many good things that came out of this. It's crazy to think about. I really admire UJ and what you do and you really change people's lives. Before this, I had a fashion career before I was on Instagram. I've been an influencer. Before that, I was a fashion PR girl. I saw you went to the Seller Rock show recently. I did PR. You've Seller Rock for years. I lived the whole Devil Wars Prada life. I feel like I've had a few fashion lives. I feel like everything was really like that movie in the sense where it was like belts and crying and drama. I really appreciate the discipline and everything I learned from that chapter of my life. But I never really knew that I would have an opportunity to save someone's life or speak out about something so relevant in women's health that I could really change someone's life or save someone's life. People have wrote me and said, wow, Bridget, I went in. I got checked because I've been watching your Instagram and I have breast cancer. But I have stage one and I'm not going to have to go to chemotherapy. I just feel really honored and I feel like to whom much is given, much is expected. I feel like I'm just trying to really honor the moment and do the best I can. I'm really excited to meet some of the people and the women I've talked to. One thing I remember walking into chemo and I really found this quote and I really try to live by it now. But it's what's the best thing that can happen. So it's like, yes, I don't have anything figured out, it really cares. Do you know what I mean? What's the best thing that can happen? Let's see what God has for me instead of me trying to always figure it out and find the husband and put the guy in there. It's like, let him do something. Cancer has a lot to do with control and the illusion of control. It really strips you of that. I was a control freak. I still am a little bit, but you don't have control over it. It takes that away from you. All you really have is your mindset and your hope and your face. That's all I ever really had, even before cancer, I just thought I was in control before. But now I know. Unfortunately. Yeah, I hope that answers the question. It does. It does. It's such a. I want to take a moment to just acknowledge how inspiring I think you are because I've had many friends who've gone through the battle with cancer. And I know how hard that is, let alone having to document it and share it. And you did that. And I can't even begin to imagine how difficult it is to go through what you've been through and document it and share it. And like you said, so many people have become inspired by it. So many people have become aware of what you go through and what others go through during this time. I wanted to ask you that now I saw you on Instagram and I was just talking to Mike right now. But I saw on Instagram that I think you have two more treatments left. He was saying one more now. He just told me, "Yeah, they're there for me." One more treatment left. Like, what does it feel like to be at this stage? As you said, you're not years away from it. Yeah, it's not. Talk to me about what goes through your mind right now. Yeah, right now, I think I'm dealing with a little bit of grief. We're doring. You know, people would ask me like, "Oh, you're grieving your old life." And like I said, I was too sick to think about all of that. Like, you're really so sick and that was one thing I struggled a little bit with sharing because I really wanted to share it, especially after one person even wrote me back and was like, "You saved me." Like, I would not have gone. And then I was like, "Okay, this is my purpose and this is the only way I can understand it. It makes sense of it that I can help someone else and I can keep someone else out of chemotherapy because I had a terrible time at chemotherapy. I went in super positive, which was kind of funny because I was like, "I can do it. We've got to do all things." And I did do it. But it wasn't what I pictured the experience to be. But I think right now I'm definitely starting to grieve because I think right now I'm starting to feel better and I'm starting to feel safe. And I'm starting to feel safe in my body. And I think there's only so much I could tolerate at once. And when you're so sick, I don't think my mind could really open all those doors at the same time. There's survivors. Gild is such a big thing because I'm also grieving, but I'm only letting myself agree for 15 seconds at a time. And I'm like, "Oh, I should just be so happy that I'm alive. So many people don't live through this. I'm so lucky." But so I'm trying to figure out those sort of things like the balance of honoring what I went through and honoring that that was hard. And that's okay. That was really hard, but also I lived. So I don't know. I'm struggling a lot with that right now. The survivors go because even when I went to ring the bell, I didn't want to do it. I don't know why. You would think you would be so excited to go and ring the bell. And you can ring the bell at any time. You can ring it at the end of your chemo, you at the end of your radiation. I just kept putting it off and putting it off because I think I wanted to ring it when I felt like, "Okay, I'm going to feel a little bit better after I ring it." So I waited and waited and waited. And then the day I was meant to do it, I told my husband, "Mike, I said I am not, I don't want to ring it. I don't want to ring it." And the only thing that got me to ring it was I was like, "Maybe it's not about me. Maybe every time I would be at treatment and I would hear someone ring it, it would spark such a joy in me. And I would be like, "Yes, so happy for that person." And so I was like, "Maybe that's why I have to ring it today." Maybe it's for someone else who's here in this building who needs to hear this bell wrong. And it's not even about me because to me, it felt like a lot of pressure to ring it because then everyone just expects you because I think people deep down just really wanted me to be better. And I wanted to be better, but I was like, "If I ring it and then I don't feel better, I'm going to be all mixed up." And that's kind of a scary weird thing in a weird place, you know? Thank you for letting us into your mind right now and heart and, you know. It's a little mixed up, but that's like kind of how it goes. I mean, you're very coherent in explaining it, so just for what it's worth, the way you're sharing it is actually making a lot of sense. And it's really. helpful I think because we don't often get to talk to people in this very important moment. We talk to people like you rightly said like years after and then it's all memory whereas right now it's all real for you and you're living through it. Talk to me about what your day-to-day looked like before the diagnosis like what was your day-to-day like? Yeah so before you know the C word cancer before being diagnosed with breast cancer I was very much wrapped up in hustle, culture, more is more and more, produce more, do more, have more success, find more success. Really just always pushing myself to be better and do better and I mean cancer will stop you right in your drugs and it says nope that's not what we're going to focus on anymore. When I found the lump I was on my sixth round of IVF so I got married when I was 40 which I guess is later in life. We lived between Dallas and New York and it's very late in Dallas and it's sort of okay in New York it's kind of interesting but we could have gotten married when I was like 38, 39 and we chose to do family planning and there's a big difference between the amount of eggs you can get when you're 38 and when you're 40 so I was like that's really important to me. I have always believed and I still believe I will be a mom and Mike will be a dad and so we were like that's really more important to us than like the party so let's do that and plan the wedding while we do that and then have that so I did a bunch of rounds and then I got two embryos and then we got married and we had this like beautiful amazing wedding I'm so into aesthetics I love planning things I just it was like a really joyful fun cool thing we did but I felt good going into the wedding because I'm like okay I have two embryos that's like what I'm believing and choosing to believe so I after we got married I wanted to do like one or two more rounds because there really just is such a big difference like I don't want to give the numbers because I'm not a doctor but in these ages between like it's 35 and up but like when you start hitting 38 39 like it's a significant difference like it's like huge the amount okay we do another round of IVF during that round of IVF is when I I noticed a lump and I was like it's really crazy because when I found it it was and I'm a petite person it was bigger than the size of a golf ball so and I wasn't sure that I even could feel it because you know we grow up like or I grew up you know I grew up with a single mom and I remember in our shower she had this little thing on your shower and it was like these hand sketches of how to do a self breast exam so you know I was doing it you never really knew where I really knew if I was doing it right or what what not but I felt something I live with a doctor so I'm like hey feel this what do you feel and he's like oh I'm not sure either like it was bigger than a golf ball but it was so far deep back like deep in me and I have dense breast tissue it makes it harder to feel for lumps and I had always read that it would feel like a hard marble and it can it can feel like a hard marble but mine did not you couldn't tell for sure if there was something or not in my mind of course every woman would think oh my gosh is a breast cancer but I grew up in a pretty big family my mom has five sisters my dad had three both of their mothers no one has breast cancer no one had cancer at all and I don't have the bronca gene so it wasn't super high on my radar that like this is cancer and it's very easy I want to flag to just be like I'm sure it's not I'm sure it's the IVF medications I'm sure it's assessed I found it or I felt something and it was on my mind and I knew I was gonna see my fertility doctor the next week so we go in and I tell him and he's like okay like you have to go in for a mammogram I'm seeing this like every week and I was like oh okay like I still just yeah I'm kind of like positive and I was kind of like I'm sure it's fine but like you know yeah of course I'll go so I go in for my mammogram the next week and um yeah while I did my mammogram I could start to kind of feel like something was going on and they could feel it and they were looking at it and then they asked me that day like will you stay for your biopsy which is like odd you know and I was like okay something's wrong and I could kind of just feel something was wrong so I stayed for the biopsy and I I've been blessed with angels this whole time like I've had a lot of angels come into my life and just like really help me and this it was just the sweetest radiologist ever and she was just talking to me all about our wedding she's like I went on your Instagram I was so beautiful and she was trying to distract me I could tell like she was really trying to compliment and all of a sudden I just looked up at her and I was like am I going to die and she said I think you're gonna need some chemotherapy because she could tell it I had swollen lymph nodes which means it's traveled likely I mean she couldn't tell she was biopsy my lymph nodes and my breasts so she she said you know I said my first question to her was am I going to die and my second question very shortly after was is all of my hair going to fall out which is kind of interesting do you know like am I going to die and is all like back to back I think that says a lot about women and our identity and and just where I was in my life I had this beautiful wedding and I have this wonderful husband and now I have breast cancer and I was family planning and you know it was never like this perfect situation I was open about doing IVF on Instagram because that just to me it's like I don't know how I could not talk about that it's it's very consuming you know and I wanted to be upfront about it and then now I'm like oh my gosh I have breast cancer like what like yeah so I don't remember what you're doing amazing don't don't stress it all like thank again thank you for give it you know the the amount of detail it's I feel like I'm living it with you and it's it's helpful because again like I think like you said them so there's so many women who feel something and I'm sure and let it go or you know like you said you're generally a lot of us are positive about things and we we want things to just be good and probably won't happen to us and then all of a sudden you've realized and I remember seeing you posted this on Instagram and bring it up because we'll put it up as well in the edit but you put it up where it's I think you face time to Mike to tell him about this and you had you know you posted you know our husband's reaction to finding out I have breast cancer what was after the first two questions you asked what was the first word that went through your head and then was Mike the first person that you called as well yeah I mean I was texting him the whole time I was there was actually really interesting you could see our wedding venue from like this room they had me waited and I was just like what's going on like this isn't how it was supposed to be you know and I was just spinning like I don't really even remember that that much of that day one of my thoughts soon after was I'm so glad it's knee and it's not my mom and it's not Mike because at least I could do it at least I had to go through it and be strong I would have found that so much worse to like like I would have rather been the one going through it than like I don't know I I can do it so wow I mean I didn't want to do it but you kind of don't have a choice right so it's like what are you gonna do and like I got saved like 10 years ago I mean I grew up Catholic school checked all the boxes did all the sacraments but like I was just sort of checking boxes like I wasn't now I'm like in constant comms with God like he is sick of me like he's like this girl like oh my gosh like we know Bridget you know it's like downloading texting all days probably like leaving me on red like we got it like it's just a lot you know and I'm just like I feel like I have that relationship and that's like what changed for me and from like I you know I went through a phase in my life where I felt like I really hit rock bottom and I just went to God in a really sincere moment and was like okay my way doesn't work I'm finally ready to admit that like I want to try it your way and it was just like this sweet little moment of surrender and I was living at home with my mom and Pittsburgh you know I had I had had this life right where I grew up with a single mom I watched her struggle my whole life my dad left when I was four and I was I watched her struggle with money and things and I was just like hell bent on like I am not gonna live that way I am going to move to New York City had never been to New York City and make it and I'm gonna work in fashion and that's what's gonna happen and I went with $200 didn't know a soul kind of know like and when I got there but I had said so many times I was living or I had to stay I couldn't even get a bank account I remember like I was like why won't you take my money they're like you don't have any like you're a risk you're a liability like we don't want you and I was like wow I can't even get a bank account like and like I just just worked and worked and worked and like I worked everyone and just kind of got where I wanted to be and I got really immersed in that world and and fashion and I had a wonderful boyfriend at the time I was living [BLANK_AUDIO] in this wonderful apartment, really nice. (laughing) It was just not mine. He was great. It was just, I wasn't great. I remember, I had this moment of like, I've gotten everything I set out to get. I'm living this apartment. I'm wearing this YSL outfit. I'm like a publicisticity salon. And I feel completely empty. And why? I got everything I wanted. And it was such a. - What was it? What was the answer? - I think that there's just like a whole and everyone's heart. And I think God fills it. And I think I had to really like lose all of those things. I was broke. I had no job, nothing, no boyfriend. No like leads on a job, no apartment. Move back to Pittsburgh. I was like, okay God, I've got nothing left. I'm at rock bottom. And he just really met me where I was at. And I just filled it all in with God. Like I just was like reading the Bible and I just started to believe all of the things God says about me. Like I was like, well, who does God, what does God think of me? And like, you know, since my dad left, I think I was always missing that father figure. And I'm like, I have that. I actually have that. Like I am wonderfully created by God. And I just felt like this heart of stone I had was just really softened. And I just became a little bit softer. And I'm not perfect. I screw up all day every day. I mean, it tends to texting all day. But like, you know, we're all sinners. But I do think deep down, I really try to do better all the time. And so like when this whole thing happened with breast cancer, you know, a lot of people have asked me like, was your faith tested when you had this? Like when this happened to you, like you just had this wedding and you were hopeful for a baby and you were already kind of struggling to get the IVF thing going. And I was like, yeah, I just lived. Like I've tried to do it without God and I've done it with God. And like, I think the storm's coming either way. I think like this is my cross to bear. But like, you have yours and everyone's going through something, right? So I feel like I, yeah, I feel like I was just like, I'm choosing to do it with him because that's just a better way for me. [Music] Was there no thought in your head at the time which was like, why me? Like, you know, I've finally got married. Like, things are looking good. Like I'm sad, I'm like, I feel like the natural reaction for a lot of people would just be like, God, why now? Why me? And you're going through IVF, you know? It's the amount, there's lots of other things happening in your life. Right. Did that thought ever come up? Or were you too strong to let it come up? No, I mean, definitely came up. I think, okay, so I also have a fashion company and I had been in lighter flight mode for quite some time because we were doing a buyout. So I had a partner and a buyout, you know, is not a fun thing. It's a little taxing. It's a hard situation to go through. And I kept saying to God during that process, like if it's not for me and you don't want me to have this company, please just take the company. Like, I don't want it if you don't want me to have it. And I pray that so many times that I like, I'm pretty sure you want me to have it. I had bought the company and I got diagnosed two weeks later. And then there was a day where I went to my oncologist and one sent in, she had said to me, you're going to lose all your hair. You're going to lose your eyebrows. You're going to lose your eyelashes. And you're not going to be able to carry a baby. And in that moment, I felt like, wow, this is not fair. Like, at least the baby part was really hard for me because, yeah, that was hard. And I felt really sad for Mike too, not even just for me because I'm like, that's, that's staying. So, you know, we're one year in a marriage. And like, he's always wanted to be a dad. And that's like super important to him. And he'll be the best dad. And he should get to be a dad. And I feel like he will get to be a dad. But I think in that moment, yeah, you definitely have those, but you're also so scared that you're just like, yeah, that's unfair. But I also am like, am I going to die? So there's like, you're weighing a lot of things and the perspective changes really quick when cancer answers the conversation. - Yeah, yeah. What kind of shifted for you as time went on after the diagnosis leading up to your first chemotherapy session and getting ready for that and preparing yourself for that? Like, what was going through your mind as you got ready and prepared? - Yeah, so I had like kind of a bit of time because my cancer was hormonegative, I was able to do one more round of IVF. So I did the round of IVF and I was just the whole time thinking about I'm starting chemotherapy. Like, what's going to happen? This is crazy. Walking into your first chemo, I personally felt physically amazing, super healthy. I went to Pilates the day before. Like, there's a lot of things you have to do, I felt a little bit like a ritual or something, you have to get your nails taken off, you have to get your hair extensions taken out, you're kind of like removing all these things, but I was like, I'm gonna go to Pilates and work out, I felt great. And then you know you're actively walking in there and you're putting something in your body that's going to make you very sick, potentially very sick. For me, it made me very, very sick. And to know like, in order to survive, I have to do that. And I have to be like, okay, here we go. Like put it in me, you know? And I think that was strange and a bit weird. But a friend of mine, Jill Martin taught me early on. She said to me, you have to reframe the way you think about chemotherapy. You cannot think of chemotherapy as something that's making you sick. You have to think of chemotherapy, something that's saving your life. And that's been a huge shift throughout the whole thing for me, everything. I used to complain about having to go get my nails done. Like what? Like I used to complain about having to go get my hair to my hair appointment. And like I think when you go through something like this, I'm like, I cannot wait to go get my hair. I mean, this is a wig, but so I kind of got to dub it. Like my own hair, like I cannot wait for that. And everything became like, I got to come here today. You know, I don't have to, I get to do things rather than I have to do things. And I think that is like a life shift. I was like, okay, like I had to go get my nails done. Like that's a privilege, you know? And like what a brat. - I think you're being hard on yourself too. I think we're all, as in, I think we all get into a space of familiarity and ingratitude and you take things for granted. And I think all of us do that as humans. I don't think it's just you. Whatever that may be, everyone has their version of a hair or nail appointment or something in their life that they're like, also know about the nail because you're like, it's such torture, I can't be on my phone. I'm like, guys, okay, we're okay, you know? - Yeah, but I think hearing you say that really does put into perspective. I was thinking about all the things that I take for granted or all the things that I, as you said that to me just now. And I think that's going to help a lot of people we're listening. I was just thinking about all the things. I say, oh God, I've got to do this. I've got to do that. Oh my God, I have to do this. And it's like, I have the ability to do it healthy and well, and that is something that you can't underestimate. And hearing about it through your perspective and how that shifted for you, I think that's a huge one. - Yeah, it was a huge thing for me. And I also think like, I was so hard on myself before. I'm scrolling back through my phone and you know how it pops up a year ago or two years ago. I always thought my hair was so thin. And I remember I was always talking about that and like trying to fix that. And just okay, I don't want to fix it and improve. I can't wait for my thin hair to come back. Like I literally cannot wait. So it's just like I just think we're all so hard on ourselves. Just know that it's like, I mean, I'm still learning too, but I'm just like, as I sit here with the big wig on, but like, you know, like I got to wear a wig today. I'm kind of pumped. Like we're like really picking on ourselves a lot. I want to somehow be able to teach girls that or like give them that perspective. I don't know how all, but I've felt that. Like I, we're so hard on ourselves. - It's almost like you'd wish you could teach humans to do that without going through pain because the pain is so intense and excruciating and terrible. But it's almost like that's a gift that you've developed by going through that that. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if all of us can learn that without sadly going through something so difficult. - It's a lot, it's hard, it's hard. - It's hard, like because you go from like, I mean, you get so sick and that's something else I struggled with a lot, like when you're so, so sick, you are not even picking up the phone. Like there's, you can't film it. Like it, I wasn't hiding it, but I was so sick. Like there, you're on the bathroom floor. Mike made me a nice little bed on the bathroom floor. He would come and lay in there with me sometimes, but it was just like, you can't sit up. Like you're bleeding from everything you can bleed from. You're every day, it's like every part of your body. I mean, I didn't know anyone was sitting at their house. That's it. Like I pictured I would get sick, but I did not picture and everybody does handle it differently. I don't know that everyone gets this sick. I, my oncologist did say to me at one point, like some people tolerate it well and some people don't and then there's you, you know, so I think I had a bad guy on it, but I struggled with showing it a lot 'cause I definitely wanted to show more, but I also didn't want people to. pity me. And I didn't want it to seem performative. Then I was like, I also want to honor the people who are going through this. Like, what if someone's watching this and one of their employees has someone going through this? And they just don't know that that person like might be really, really trying. And it's there's a lot to it. They put you in medically induced menopause and you're like hormonal teenager grow. And I'm like crying to my egg about anything you could ever imagine. You're not even yourself. How can you expect people to understand that? How can I lead a team during all that and not be mad at myself? And you're just it's so much. And I don't really know how to explain it. I don't know that there's a right way. Like I tried to share, but I definitely I'm being totally honest. I would say I aired on the side of showing less because it's gruesome. It's gruesome. Like horrific things. It can do your body. And you can't set up. You can't walk. Like I we had a launch for my brand one day and I crawled to the computer to get it work to work. Like I was like this is just like the most humbling thing. I cried once. It was I remember during football season. Mike was watching a football game and I was so hungry, but there was just such a price to pay. Like I had a lot of GI issues. And there was such a price to pay if I ate that I was like starving. And I'm not good at starving. I like to eat. And I was just crying. Like watching these commercials. I don't like just want to eat, but I would I ordered food once I'm like chew it and like spit it out because I just wanted to eat so badly. But there was a price to pay. It was coming out both ways. Everything you could imagine. Everything is inflamed and congested. And it's not just like you're throwing up. You're like in major pain. And like my teeth have completely rotted like from all this. Like just things you you don't want to I didn't want to show that I wouldn't be mad at so much of that. I hope someone does, but I didn't want people to pity me. So I didn't know exactly what to do with it there. So I just went day by day and yeah did did what I could. I I pushed my to to to remind me to post. And he was like sweetheart. Just like don't. But I was like but the only purpose I feel in this is when people write me and they say I went in. I got checked. I I'm not going to have to do chemo project. Like I was like, okay, there's a there's something in this. Yeah, that's helping so many people even even you're talking about it here right now. I'm sure there are so many people who go in self-examined self-examined to your exams. Like please, please. Like I like I'm like begging people. I'm like, please do it because before I went in to see my oncologist, I was like, I need to like have her do a self-examined on me. I need to just figure this out and like this was a night before my appointment. She's a very proper amazing oncologist. I want her to do a breast exam on me. And I want to film it. And I'm like, but I'll be like flagged for my nipples being on an Instagram, right? So I'm like, Amazon prime. What can I get right? And I'm like looking up pasties that you wear to like a rave. I could only feel like this red glittery one. She walks in the next day. I'm like, can you teach us all how to do a self-examined? Can I film it? She's like, what is that? Like I literally had disco glitter pasties on. And she's like super serious. But like it got sent to like 70,000 people. Like and people were like, I've never known if I was doing this right. And like she can explain it better than anyone else, right? And now I feel like even watching that, like I know how to do one. And I think if anyone takes anything unless like if you're listening to this and you're hearing this, like just right ahead right now. Just like let's have a feel like let's tonight do our self-examined. And what you're looking for is like you have to know your body, know your baseline and you're looking for a change. So any change and then you get checked. And you don't let yourself put it off, put it off, put it off because it's scary. That's what people tend to do. But there is no no instance with this. We're finding out sooner is a bad thing. You know, it can definitely keep you out of chemotherapy. It can keep you at a lower stage. Like it's it's so important. So yeah, go in, get checked. And like just watch my video that I made and see me in my disco, you know, rave party out of it. What does beauty mean to you today? Oh, I'm working on that a little bit. Like I've always enjoyed fashion and makeup and all of this. And I think that's great. I think that's fine. But I think I really want to lead with my heart and really make people feel a certain way that will maybe inspire them to like search for some things missing in their life or a little hole in their heart. And like that would be something I found really beautiful, you know. And another thing I thought of like I saw a girl who looked sick. She's going through cancer on the internet the other day. And I'm like there's nothing not beautiful about her. Like no one feels like that about her. So I think it's like just being in it really changed it. Like no one was looking at me going she looks so bad. I mean, they might have been scared. She looks she looks very sick. I'm alarmed. But like no one was saying oh she's so ugly. You know what I mean? Like it's different. I think we're just again. It goes back to being like our own worst critics and so hard on ourselves. Yeah. Thank you. Well said. What I want to ask you two questions. What's the most helpful thing? Someone can say to someone who's got cancer and what's the most unhelpful thing? People can say to someone who's got cancer. It's a good question. Because I think a lot of people just don't know what to say. Yeah. I feel like you just don't ever want to be dismissive of what they're going through. But I think something that's been really nice and really sweet is like people who continue to check in on me. And even like when I didn't have the time to write people back I swear when people would reach out to me it would be like in the exact second I needed it. Like it was like wow, you know. And it would be like someone I knew from years ago and they'd be like, I'm just reaching out and like I felt bad because they didn't write back to everyone. But like you don't know how much you can what an impact you can have on someone's day. Like I have made a conscious effort now. Like when I think of people now I make sure I text them that day. I don't care if they write me back or not too. Like that's one thing I really learned. Like just keep reaching out. Just keep going. Like I just reached out to people whenever they pop into my head now and praying for you. Love you. Like you don't know what someone else is going through and like I do feel like we're all connected and like it's beautiful and you can really I just think keep just keep loving on them. You know. Just keep loving on them. And even there's points points where people are mad and they're like upset and they might not want to reply but they're never going to be mad that you reached out. So I think it's like do it but don't expect anything back from it. I felt so carried in love and prayer the whole time and felt a little spoiled sometimes. Like this is so nice. You know and I want to be able to hopefully do give some of that back to people somehow somewhere. I think I'm going to let me know. I think this is giving back. You're showing up online every day. You sharing your story. That is the best gift back for everyone who checked in with you because you're hopefully helping someone they know or someone they love from not going through the same thing or catching it early and not having to experience the hardships of it that you did. I've had a couple of friends in the last 12 to 24 months who've also been going through cancer and I've found when I talk to them one of the biggest things they say to me is people don't know what to say. People kind of distance themselves. People think I just need space but actually it would be really nice if they checked in and it's what you just said that no one's ever going to be mad if you check in even if they don't have the capacity or capability to respond back or call you back or message back. It's always going to mean something to that person. Yes, it meant so much to me. I always think of my mom growing up with a single mom and seeing her struggle. I'm like, you know, whoa, it's not lost on me that I went through this with like complete privilege of like having help. Like having someone who cared about me to help me like not everyone has that. So I think it's like if there's anything you can do like if someone has kids or anything you could do to help them do their laundry. Any grocery store run or something for them, it's like really deeply meaningful. Like it's really hard and I don't think people always feel comfortable showing how hard it is because it's a bit embarrassing, you know. You want to try and you want to be or I want it to be anyway. Like I'm okay but it's like no, you're not. Yeah, which is natural. We do it anyway. We do it even when we don't have cancer. We all act like we don't need help and we got it all together and we're okay and so when you have something that you're worried about and concerned about, you talked about, you know, Mike there. I think what I find so it's so beautiful watching you both together and what you did share from the journey of just how engaged and present Mike was throughout the whole journey and I think I always find it fascinating because of course on our wedding days we all make this commitment of insickness and in health and we've all heard hundreds of people say it or maybe, you know, tens of people say it. We've seen their movies. We've, you know, whatever it may be, you hear this statement again and again and then people are actually, you know, yeah and then you actually go through that. Talk to us about the realities of what it took. I'm, you know, I think Michael's went down to like, you know, cut days at work to be there to support. But I'm sure it's not easy for you either because you're going through this very vulnerable thing with your partner. That's not easy on you. So I talked to me about the realities of what it feels like to go through cancer even with someone you love and that loves you deeply. Yeah, I mean, it was hard for me at first. Like I said, because I had grown up like always being really independent and wanting that for myself and I think God was like, no, you're going to learn to trust a man and you're going to have to lean on him and it is what it is. And I found that really hard. I mean, I straight out the gate, you know, this is one year into marriage. like sickness and health, go buddy, let's see what you got, you know, and he really put himself second, and I came up with this whole like, choose your husband, like your life depends on it, because I can't imagine what I would have done without him, like, you know, he's a plastic surgeon, he has been training for this moment for 17 years. So you get to this moment, you open your business, you pass your boards, and now it's like, oh, please step away from your business and learn how to do a fashion company, because she just bought it, has debt, and now on the full company, you know, so it's a lot to put on someone, and I think chaos reveals character, right? And one thing I did before I met Mike was I made this like, husband list, I used to talk about it on like, TikTok or Instagram a long time ago, but it was, it's not like, oh, abs in a corner office and status and all this stuff, it's much more like character driven, like does he love his mom? How does he make people feel? What does he leave in the room? Does he have any friends? Does he care about people? Because at the end of the day, life is going to get hard, and those are the things that are going to matter. On our first date, I remember Mike telling me like, his parents have been married for 40 years, his grandparents are married for 70 years. I was like, oh, he's like hitting these things on this list or whatever. But it was the list as he told me. Tell us about what was on the list. Yeah, it was, it was like, does he love his mom? What do people say about him? Do people like him? Like, I, that was a big one on my list. I was like, I really want everyone to love him and just think he's great. If someone wouldn't like Mike, like, that's kind of odd. Like, he's a really good human. Like, he's just like a great person. Like, I want to be like, Mike, like, he has something he was passionate about. Is there something he loved? Do we align on our values and our faith? And like, not letting anything go off the list, like not seem potential in people. Oh, can I change this in this person? Like, I'm so attracted to them. My date with Mike when I walked in, that was the first time I think I walked into a room thing. You like, do I like this guy? And it wasn't like, does he like me? I was really good in the sense of, I know who I am in Christ. I know God loves me. I know who I am. And I know what I think I need. And if I just give this to God, I'm going to believing that he's going to find this guy for me, rather than me trying to make all of these exceptions to these rules and make it work with these other people that it's not working with. And like, looking back, I'm like, wow, God really sees your whole story beginning to end. I can't even know I needed a doctor. When we first started dating, Mike, it was always easy with him, everything. To the extent that I was like, oh, am I like not interested in this is this. Oh, yeah, it was so peaceful that it felt unfamiliar. Yeah, like I was sort of like, maybe he should be my friend. Yeah. I don't feel this because I wasn't like waiting for him to text me and all of this. He was just texting me, was just pursuing me actively. And I didn't really know what to make of that. There were no games. So I almost got confused by that. And so thank God I had that list because I'm like, he's not breaking anything on the list. But I was just like, so what I did was I like took counsel. I asked married people. I'm like, there's this guy. He's this like really odd dog girl, which also like, I didn't want to go out with him for six months. I did not want to go out with him because those like he looks like a model. And like, I want to be the pretty one. But like, I got over it. And like he wore jaggings. I remember I was just like looking for problems. But like, none of the photos on his Instagram were just of him, which I was like, that's a good thing. That's a good thing because like, even though that wasn't on the list, like, that says a lot about you care about people. You're with your mom, your brother. You have some friends. Those are great things. Those are those are telling things, you know? And so, yeah, but I did get a little bit worried at some points asking my married friends being like, I don't know guys. He's like always writing me back. And he like wants to hang out every day. Like, it's a little weird. And they're like, he has a job and he likes mom. He's a good person. What's a problem? You know, it's like, well, what do you think that is? Like, why are we all doing that? We don't have a history of peaceful, clear contact. And therefore, when someone finally does that, you kind of get spooked. Yeah. And you're like, what's going on here? Like, you're not meant to do this. You're meant to make me feel nervous and anxious. And all the other emotions that aren't healthy and helpful or in that moment, at least. Yeah. And so I think we're all looking for that kind of like racy feeling. Like the butterflies. Yeah. I felt like I liked him, but I didn't have this like sinking pit in my stomach at all times. I mean, there's a study that shows that what we feel when we say the butterflies is you're feeling excitement and stress at the same time. But when someone messages you back, you only feel excitement and clarity. So you don't get the stress. But it's the excitement and stress together that creates that nervousness. But when someone actually is just as Mike was messaging back and, you know, pursuing you and being really clear about it, we're like, oh, wait a minute. I don't feel the stress. Yeah. And the stress is what makes things exciting. But, you know, we know that's not true. Because hey, when you're actually married, someone or you are in a long-term relationship with someone, you don't want some of that causes you stress. You don't want to come home to a stressful person. You don't want to wake up to a stressful person. You don't want to, that's not what you're looking for. You know, imagine the guy not calling me back when I was going through my chemo therapy. You know, I made one video and I was like, the guy who is not texting you back is not the guy with you in the middle, the middle of the night in the emergency room, like, you know, and my big faux fur on and my, and he's just sitting there like, what can I do to help? You know, and it's like, what are we doing? What was I doing? How did you to meet before that first day? Yeah, the old fashion we met. We met through friends. I've my one friend, she's an influencer in her husband's a plastic surgeon. They were in the same residency at NYU and she kept telling me to go out with him. And I would just become complaining about these guys I was dating and I would just be like, oh, should I text him back? And it was all this plotting and all this stuff. And she's like, really can you just text Mike? And I'm like, hmm, he looks like a model. And she was like, but just like, take that out of it. What is the problem? And I was like, I don't know. I don't know. I was like, he's not my type. And she's like, you're not married. You don't have a type. Like, you have a lot of people that aren't your type that you've dated. [MUSIC] Talk to me about that idea of so many. There are so many women who feel if I'm not married by 30, if I don't have kids by 35, you are married when you're 40. And life will continue from this point onward. And it's like, you never felt behind or didn't allow yourself to feel behind. Well, I did. I felt behind. Yeah, I felt behind, but like, I was so consumed with work. Like, that was a big thing for me because I think just growing up with a mom who struggled, it was like the number one thing. And until I felt like I got myself to a point where I was like financially independent or in a good place, I wasn't as focused on it. But then, yeah, like, I was like, oh, no, I want to have babies. So it was okay that I had to be laying in bed for a year. I've been out for a lot of years. That was kind of what my platform was built by accident, I guess, before cancer happened. It was a lot of girls would come up to Mike and I in New York City mainly. And they would say, oh my gosh, you guys give me so much hope. I'm 32 and I haven't met anyone. And I met Mike when I was 35. So I think, you know, I leaned into that a little bit and thought about it. And I think it was just like, believing in God's plan for my life and not trying to do things my way. That being said, I do think I would have saved myself a lot of tears and a lot of years if I had written the husband list before and not got so caught up in like the games and the butterflies and like all of that. Because yeah, I don't know. That's, that's like a thing. Yeah. What would you say to someone who says to you, I feel behind it 35 because I haven't got married yet? Have you written your husband list? So it's on it. And who are you dating? And like, what are you scared to let go of? Because I do think that there has to be a moment of kind of like, okay, God, I'm going to do this your way. I'm not going to keep doing this my way. What I like about your list is it's not a list the way I think people think about a list. So I think when people hear the words husband, husband list, they think like six feet tall, you know, this job. That is right. Yeah. I think a lot of people write those things. And even if it's not a lot of people, I know a lot of people who've said those things to me, where it's all about like, what kind of job they have? So like, doctor would be high up there, right? And, or, you know, finance or not finance. So people also, their list is like, I would never marry someone in finance. I never, and I'm like, I don't think that affects whether someone's a good partner or not. Like I always think about like your career doesn't really say much about how you are as a partner. Your bank balance doesn't say how much you are as a, what you're like as a partner. Your height doesn't say anything about what you're going to be like as a partner. And I think it's funny when you measure someone as a partner on these things that mean nothing to do with them being a partner. And so I think even though I never had a formal list, I think when I met Rady too, I was looking for how someone lit up a room and how someone was with me in different circumstances and different scenarios. How was I treated around different people? How did I feel when I shared a new idea or I thought about something new? And then as we got married and moved forward, even then like I would say we went through more challenges after we got married because we moved country, we moved jobs, we moved home. And when you go through all that together again, I mean, you've been through is far harder and far greater than all of those things. But when you go through difficult things, you figure out what someone's really made of and what their responses. And I remember being four months away from being broke when we were married. And this was around maybe six months into our marriage or maybe it was just coming up to a year into our marriage. And I told the situation we were in. And she was like, "I trust you." And like that to me was the person I married and the character of the person I married, not someone who is not there for me at that time. And so I think for me, I knew brother was the one when I met her because she was always nice and kind to everyone that we met, whether they could help her or not. She lit up every room she walked into. She was always bubbly and fun and had good energy and ideas. I didn't feel like she played any games. We both didn't play any games with each other. I was really sure about who I was when I met her and that didn't scare her and didn't intimidate her or didn't make a feel any other way. And she was still learning and curious about who she was. And I loved that about her. So I think to me it was more about you had a list though. I did. That's what I'm agreeing with you. I'm saying it wasn't written down exactly. But it was there. And I was very I could sense it when I was around and I think you need to be clear about those things. But I think the problem now is people get clear about stuff, but not the right stuff. You get clear about a bunch of stuff that doesn't make any difference. Like, you know, someone's height or someone your Iq that they wear jewelry or the fact that they don't dress well or whatever it is, like that stuff doesn't impact that someone's going to show up for you when you're broke, when you're lost, when you confuse, when you have cancer, you know, like that's not going to be the, you know, different years. Yeah. And it's a cool one that you said too that like you were very sure of who you were. Like who you were when you met her and that didn't intimidate her. And that's like one thing I haven't really thought of. And how attractive that must be to someone, but I didn't even really think of it like that. Like, yeah, that didn't intimidate him. He like pushed into that and leaned into that. I was like, that's cool, you know, and like, that is cool. It is, it is. And it's, you know, like, I mean, you know, I think Mike's just set such an incredible example for, you know, all partners truly just by observing both of you together of just what it takes and what love really means. You know, I think we talk a lot about what love means and how do you show it and, you know, what that looks like. And I think both of you together representing the most beautiful way. And it's so happy that you've been a big part, sharing that with us. Also, I think has made every partner go, I need to step up, you know, in a good way, in a good way. Yeah. I don't worry about that too because I'm like, I don't want people to think we're like bragging, but it's like, we're not, we're like literally. It's hard. So there's no bragging because it's hard work. You know, he went to Sephora once because when all my hair really started shedding, like badly, and I had lost so much weight, I was like 84 pounds and like, because I was just having a lot of issues with eating. But he was like, I want to do your makeup for you. I want to do something for you. It was so funny because it was bad, you know, and like, he had not a clue and thank God he's so much better at surgery than makeup. Yeah, I've seen him do your nails and let him do your nails. Kind of good in nails. Yeah, not to make him so much, but yeah, he was like a little confused. And even I saw you dressing up during treatment too. Yeah. That was the way you have, I think, finding joy. I was pushing myself. Like, it was later in my treatment, like, I started dressing up for chemo because I saw this old older woman there once. And she was just fierce. She had on heels in this outfit. I was like, I love her. And I was like, is she here for treatment? And they're like, yes, she always dresses up. And they said, and she rings about every time when she leaves, I said, goals. I love her. So then the next week, I was like trying to dress up and be just like her because I was like, wow, like, maybe I can inspire people. Maybe they'll see me dressed up and then they'll want to dress up. It really, I was like, wow, when I saw her. How did you dig to find a strength at that time? Like, talk to me about that. Like, you just said, like, you know, you're just trying to get up. You're just trying to get to treatment. You're just, you've got to deal with being on the bathroom floor and bleeding from, you know, it's like, how do you in those, how do you in that moment even find the strength? Like, I don't know. Like, I think you're stronger than you think. Like, I, I am kind of glad, like ignorance was, but I don't know how I would have gone that first day and let them put chemo in me if I had known what was going to happen. I really don't, like, it was hard. And then later in my treatment, when I was doing radiation, I had to do 15 rounds of radiation. And I was like, okay, I really want to dress up every day. Like, I'm not going to say I'm going to do my arm and wear a hat. I'm not going to do my makeup. But like, I really want to challenge myself to, like, build myself confidence back a bit. And I felt like the ways I thought of when I built my confidence up when I was younger, I was like, I bought a very expensive equinox gym membership. And I was like, but I'm going to buy this and then I'm going to say I'm going to go and I'm going to go and I'm going to keep that promise to myself. And as I keep doing that, I'll, I'll start to believe in myself. So it's like, I am getting dressed for this no matter what every day. And I did not want to. But every day I just remember being like, but I only have to do it 14 more times. I like to do it 13 more times. And then at the end, it was just like, I did it. I couldn't believe it. I did it. I'm not saying these were the world's best outfits. But like, it was just like, I think there's something to that, like making a promise with yourself and keeping a bigger small. You start to believe in yourself and you start to trust yourself and you start to have confidence that you can do things, you say you can do. And I think that like helped me a lot, like a lot more. And it seems so small. And like, I mean, literally putting on an outfit, but it was huge for me. I remember being like, wow, I did it. How did you not get defeated every time? Because like, you know, I think a lot of people, when you're going through something like this, you build yourself up, you prepare yourself, you get ready. And then you still got to do another round. You still got to do this. You're still like, how did you not let yourself get defeated? Yeah, I mean, I got defeated sometimes. And I just, I would just try to go back to like, spinning it to be like, I get a chance to live. I get a chance to go on and live. And I can do it. I just, I, right when I got diagnosed, I didn't show this because I was like, I'm a little good girl, you know, but like I embroidered healed on everything you could ever imagine. My sweatshirts, my bags, everything in every morning. Thank you, Jesus for my healing. Thank you, God for healing me. I was not healed, you know, and I'm wearing a sweatshirt to Memorial Sloan Catering Cancer Center in New York City. Go healed. I was just riding it everywhere. And I was just believing for it. And like, I guess I didn't see a point in not believing for it. Like I, I just like, I don't see a point in like, not believing I'll be a mom. Like I believe I just believe it. Now I got to go right mom on everything. But I, I, I just believe like, I don't know if it will be the way I imagined it to be. Like that was a really hard time for me the day that they said you won't carry a baby. And I'm still like, well, maybe I'll carry a baby. I'm like, very, I don't know. But I believe, I will be a mom in some way, shape or form, whether that's adopting or actually have a surrogate now. So I'm so happy to hear that. It's amazing news. Yeah. We're working on that. And that's like a quite a long process and like such a beautiful thing. And that someone would want to do that. And feels really called to like make someone else a mother. Like I think that's so beautiful. And I just know Michael will be the best dad and he deserves it. So, you both do, you both do for sure. Thank you. Yeah. Talk to me about your talks with God during this time. They're really wrong. They're not this like a little Catholic Bridget who grew up like, you know, oh, like, what the heck is going on? Like this is like, it's like, honestly, like texting with someone that I could say anything to, you know, and I do actually text. No, it's like in my mind. I do it all day. And then I try to make time like at night. And I like download everything. But he already knows like in my mind. That's what I believe that he already knows like everything he knows all of our thoughts. He knows the number of hairs on her head. Like I, I, I just, I'm like, TMI. I'm kind of just, I think he's sick of me. I'm like, he's probably like, he'll have a girl enough, you know, no one ever ever anyone. I love your sense of you. Talk to me by we're talking at the top about grief. And as I'm talking to you, there's so much joy and gratitude and resilience that you demonstrate, which is just mind you in swine me so much. So it's just whenever I'm around you, I just feel so moved. Truly. Yeah, by your faith. And you're like, you don't know, you're not yourself anyway. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, like scared I was going to die. And I've never had that before. I've never lived a day in my life before where I was like, am I going to live? So you're not like balancing much. You're like getting through it, you know, day at a time, hour at a time sometimes and you're just trying to put one foot in front of you. of the other and like get through it. I think the grief is coming more now because I feel more safe now. And I feel like, yeah, I feel like now I'm, I feel like I'm going to live. I hope I'm going to live in that. You know, I want you. Yeah. Yeah. And so now I'm kind of like, whoa, what just happened? Like it's survivors guilt too. It's really hard because like not everybody gets what I just got. So it's hard to say, I feel really like like I, I'm struggling with that. I do think I need to let myself lean into that a little more and definitely needs, I need to do some work and some work on myself about letting myself feel the feelings that just happen. But I'm not doing great at that. Yeah. Right now I'm being very like, well, I should just be happy that I'm alive. You know, so some work to do that. Do you have any advice for me? How do I do that? You told me. Oh my god. No, I, I think your talks with God and the incredible sharing you do with your community. I'm in no place to guide or advise you. I feel so just touch by the way you talk to God about what you're going through. And I mean, there could be no better guide than that. And then also hearing about just just how you chose to share it with the community. And, and I feel like you're, you're, you've already processed so many emotions more than you can even ever imagine. You're going to know how to process these new ones as they come up because you've already done so many of the harder ones. Yeah. And so it's just trusting yourself and trusting God that you'll get the wisdom and the insight to know what to do next. Yeah. Which you've already lived by. So I feel, I definitely feel a little bit like like, Oh, now what do I do? Because like, you know, I like had this whole life and then it kind of got turned upside down. So I'm like, okay, it is what it is. But now it's like, what do I do? Do I go back to talking about glues or, you know, and it's like, I'm definitely grieving who I was. I don't not like think she's coming back. I don't think that I think there will always be that. And then like before and after cancer, I don't know that it's not a blessing though, because like, I get to live my life through different lens. I hope that other people get to see that through me. Like, I hope that they get to, you know, what's the saying, like, healthy people want a lot of things, but sick people, they only want one thing. And it's like, I hope that people just, it can be a small reminder to them to like, if you're like listening to this today and you're having a bad day, you have your health, like, the world is your oyster. You are so blessed and so lucky. And there's so many things, circumstances that we can change and work on. And just maybe if you could just shift that to gratitude a little bit for what there's always something to be grateful for, you know, like, I was really grateful that I got to do cold capping during my treatment and it sucks. But I was so lucky and blessed to be able to do that. Not everyone gets to do that. And I kept some of my hair and I'm like, wow, God, you're just like spoiling me wrong. Like, I am even keeping some of my hair. Like, I don't know, I hope it. I hope I figure out how to, what to do next and how to merge. And I don't feel the exact same pressure I felt before. It's like, post every day and all of this because I'm kind of just like, I need to be, like, I need to figure out, but I don't know. I don't know. What do I do? Send tips to me. I don't know. Like, I feel like most people who've been through this, like, that I've met are like really badass. So I'm like looking forward to that. I think they're like super like mega, like, like, I'm like, whoa, you're a really impressive person. And I'm like, so something happens. You know, I'm just like, not at that for yet. I'm like, so working on it. I think a lot of people think they have to find their purpose and you're already living it by doing what you're doing right now. So, you know, I think you're already living the next phase of your life without even knowing it. I mean, I think purpose is so cool in that way. What is the best advice you've ever had or received? This too shall pass. Can I explain it more than a sentence? I need you to do that. So I think because obvious for obvious reasons, like, you know, going through the year, I just went through this too shall pass. But it's also like another reminder to be in the moment and realize, like, but what's good is what good is happening right now because this is going to pass. And then also, I think it's so, so important for like when you're at your highest moment too, like you're at the best moment, everything's working out for you, like this too shall pass. So, like, be present in that moment, but also stay humble in that moment because this too shall pass. Yeah. Well said. I have a little box for you here. What is it? Inside this box. Okay, different things that I think are valuable to people at different points in their life. And I want you to just pick out anything that looks interesting to you and talk about when it was important and how it's changed. Oh my gosh. This is really cute. I don't know. Okay, so nails. I like literally can't wait to go and get my nails done. You can't get your nails done when you're going through chemotherapy. I did once anyway. Rebel with a cause and I just got really, it wasn't good. So, wow, like, I like this, like kind of excites me. I'm excited. I love that. Yeah. Is this like Mike? Well, I didn't, we need the doc has. This was actually the looks like the guy dated before Mike. It wasn't very nice to me who wasn't would not have been good at taking good care of me this year. So, like, we're leaving him behind. Yeah. See you. Yeah. Bye. What else? This is like really hopeful to me. This is like, this is happening somehow, some way. This is going to happen. So, prayers up for this one, but I'm leaving. Like, I just, I just believe, you know, I just, what's a, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, believe this is really cute because it will be three years. This has three diamonds and it will be our three years this year. So, we had our first year and then I got diagnosed at our second year. So, our whole second year marriage. So, I feel like the third year is like pretty exciting and cool to go into and like, what's the best thing that can happen, right? Wow. I love it. You did great. Yeah. Cool. You did great. That was it. It was just the ones that stood out to you. Oh, look. It was the ones that stood out to you. That's cool. I like that. Well, Bridget, I think you're going to go into help a lot of people, save a lot of people. This has become part of your purpose and the way you're acting and sharing already. And I think you're going to continue to inspire people through anything you choose to do. Oh, wow. I really believe that. I really believe that through sharing this message, through sharing your journey and story, but even beyond that, I think anything you choose to go and do, moving forward will inspire people because of how you go about it, how you carry yourself, how wonderful and thoughtful you are with everyone, how present you are. I think there's so many incredible qualities you have that can't wait for the world to experience and for people to share with. So yeah, thank you so much from the bottom of my heart for trusting me coming on the show to share your story. When I met you, I was blown away and I couldn't think of a better guest to have on the show. And the fact that you came out when you're still, you know, got a treatment left. And I know this isn't easy for you physically, mentally, emotionally, but you're still here and you make it easy. You're pretty good at this show. Yeah, no, you make it easy. I feel like, yeah, you're just so row and vulnerable and that's what makes it. That's why people love you. It's why people love learning and following the journey with you because can tell it's all real. So, you know, it's incredible. Thank you. If you love this episode, you will enjoy my conversation with Meghan Trainor on breaking generational trauma and how to be confident from the inside out. My therapist told me, stand in the mirror naked for five minutes, put a timer on and just look at yourself. Day one, I was literally shaking because I was like, like, it was already tough for me to love my body.