Brian Hartline Plays Douche or No Douche | Hour 2

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He's only in a second game, he's new to head coaching, he's a former dolphin receiver, and while I was really proud of his courage, I also thought it was deeply unamerican what he did to our armed services with his decision-making in that game. So I'm going to set it up for you guys again here as Brian Hartline joins us, the coach of USF. It's fourth and five or six. He's got about a 50 plus yard field goal and he's got a grammatica that he trusts, one of the best kickers in the country. He can tie the game by going for a field goal. He says, "Bleep it with 20 seconds left, I'm throwing the ball as far as I can and I'm going for it, one play for the game." Brian, thank you for joining us, congratulations, and then afterward our soldiers are servicemen. Instead of thank you for the service, go ahead and sing the alma mater on the field like you always do while you're crying and stunned because you didn't expect Brian Hartline to do any of that. So, Brian, thank you for joining us and congratulations, you're deeply unamerican. I appreciate the opportunity to join you guys. Dan was a big fan, we'd be down in Miami, so a lot of you on the show. Thank you, sir. Take me through that, though. Were you thinking of kicking the field goal because grammatica's got that range, right? Yeah, frankly, I didn't, I mean, to me, I was not comfortable with leaving it with that kind of length. I do trust grammatica. He does a great job and that was a good spot, but we were rolling. I trusted the guys, and frankly, you know, we had a little no play to play before and they kind of showed us cover zero and then we know, I thought there was no way in heck they would do it again. So, we came up with the best play we thought we'd for the situation and just alerted the potential goal ball of the field. If they were to pop cover zero on us again and if they did, go in the game. And that's kind of was the end of the conversation and those boys executed at high level. How does it work with your nerves in that situation? Yeah, frankly, I was not nervous, but it all came crashing down probably after the actual play. But we were locked in, we were locked in, players were locked in, a lot of confidence. Frankly, the last five minutes, and you know, in hindsight, that's probably the biggest part of the while. So, proud of the guys, they didn't flinch in that night and execute at high level when it all mattered. Were you still on the field when they were singing the alma mater stunned on the field and did you feel bad for doing that to our servicemen? I wasn't on the field. I did not feel bad. I think that, you know, frankly, you know, we had a lot of respect going into that game. I think our challenge was to go up against probably the most disciplined team in the country, regardless of talent to most disciplined team in the country and we were more disciplined than them. I mean, they had more penalties than us. They had turnovers, we did not, and so a lot of pride and the way we operated and how we executed and how our discipline really allowed us to oversee the probably the most disciplined team in the country. Coach, what's been harder than you thought it would be in the early part of your head coaching career? You know, I think the ignorance of understanding how many moving parts there is and how much you're responsible for it to be transparent. I mean, when you're in your world and you're in your tunnel as a position coach or even as a coordinator, you don't see the vast array of every detail from travel to people being sick and people, I mean, everything. So that was probably the ignorance of it. We have a good plan in place about great people around us. We've handled it at a high level, but I think, you know, that was probably the one daunting thing over time, I mean, brand new roster 50 to 60 guys coming in here, brand new staff, couple guys from the previous staff, we're still around, but I mean, over 60 new guys, over 100 new hires. And that was probably the most alarming part was just the vast array of mechanics across the board. Put it on the pole at Lebitard show who's more disciplined, USF or the Army, the United States Army. He says that, but last year, I do remember this South Florida was really, really physically talented last year and got smoked by Navy, at least in part because they weren't quite as disciplined as they were in this game Saturday. How do you bring discipline? How does that one work? How do you take that from Ohio State and bring it with you? Yeah, I mean, I think it starts with the people, right? I mean, as coaches, we suggest a lot and we recommend a lot, but ultimately the players have to believe and they have to apply. So set pretty clear standards, we're going to make sure we knew how we're going to operate on a consistent basis on a daily basis. And the guys chose to buy in, they understand that, you know, they're trying to have three departments, right? You got your talent level that, you know, God's blessed you with and our responsibility is to develop, you know, discipline and skill development. So, you know, again, we're going to maximize our talent. The best way we can, the only way we can do that is with great discipline and great skill development, the way we live, the way we practice, the way we play on a game day. So the guys have bought in, they've applied it in over the last two weeks and we're really proud of the way we've taken care of the football and the few penalties we've had. True or false, Brian Hartline is the greatest wide receiver recruiter of all time, false. I think that a lot of people recruit, but I will develop you better than anyone in the country. Go with that. Go with that side of it. Yeah. Taking credit for Jay. Jeremiah Smith's development. I understand. You got some horses though. You recruited arguably and the only program that can push back is LSU. Your track record in the NIL era. That is among the greatest wide receiver rooms we've ever seen. As a Miami guy, I'm thrilled you took the USF job. You took a lot of local guys over there. How difficult is it to recruit those talent skill positions in the modern era? And why did you choose to leave that? Well, I think it came down to just identifying the right people. I mean, I think that for us at Ohio State, we never took one transfer receiver in the entire time. I mean, it was all about identifying guys through high school, took anywhere from two to four guys a year. Again, nothing's perfect, obviously, but we hit the mark better than anybody in the country. And frankly, it wasn't a changing of position coaches like you had. You have guys, that was the same guy for the last nine years to be there with Ryan Day and be there with that offense. That was a huge part of it. It takes everyone. Mick Morotti, the strengths and conditioning department. That's huge. That being said, I really enjoy the development of men. And so, obviously, through this whole coaching journey, I never really thought about being a head coach, frankly, even a coordinator. But as you do a decent job, everybody wants you to do more. So, the opportunity started rising, and then ultimately, my wife and I just decided, this is the right fit for us. Be back in Florida. Be back down here in Tampa and be able to recruit the right kind of guys to chase some different levels of things that really haven't accomplished yourself, Florida. I like that idea. I like the idea of building something. And I like the idea of accomplishing something that's really never been done before. So, we're off to a good start way long ago. We got a huge, huge big, a lot of shoes to fill and a lot of things to accomplish. But I'm going to be 2-0 and then can you learn from it? Did you try and get Jeremiah Smith to leave Ohio State with you? Of course not. I mean, that's not even a question. There's a better place in America to play receiving than Ohio State. Couple places. Coach, better Cuban sandwich, Tampa or Miami. You have experience with both downs. And I would say I did not hit a lot of Cuban down there, frankly. I have been here in E-Boar City and hit something here. And so, biasfully, I would say here because I just experienced it more here than I did in Miami. Coach, when you were on the recruiting trail and you were getting guys like Jackson Smith and Jigba and Mecha Buca, who's the guy out of all of those players? And I didn't mention Gary Wilson, Chris Olavi, Marvin Harrison Jr., who was the guy that when you were on the recruiting show, you were like, oh, that guy's special. Oh, well, I would say that they all had their own little niche to him. Obviously, Jeremiah, I got a chance to go to his state championship game and he was doing some things then. It was like, oh, my gosh, this is crazy a little bit. But they all had some craziness to him. I mean, I think I didn't get a chance through that watch gear a little bit. Gary was coming in as I was being the position coach and taking over in 2018. Same with Chris Olavi came in in June of 2018. So the recruiting side of it, I was not a huge part of it, I evaluated on film. But I would say, you know, one that I really liked, I liked a lot. He's there now. He's a freshman. I probably can't talk to you. It's probably a legal, but, you know, he definitely got a mocha vibe to him and a milk vibe to him if you're following me, so the guy did a pretty good job. We'll see what happens to him throughout the Ohio State. Coach, you're the head coach of the South Florida Bulls. Is your campus in South Florida? South Florida's in Miami. That's right. So, that being said, this town is great. Obviously, we've recruited this place, you know, a good amount. But to be invested in it, to realize how much of a sports town it was, my ignorance didn't realize how much they love sports in Tampa. I'm being with the Bucking Ears and Rays and Lightning and in South Florida football. It's a great town, a great vibe and I'm glad we're glad we're here in Tampa. You played for the Dolphins for six years. The Dolphins have still not want to play off game since you're here. Do you feel bad for Dolphins fans? You know, being a fan of choice and, you know, I would say that growing up in Ohio, there was some people that are really well to the Browns as well. But, you know, Jeff Halfley was with us in Ohio State in 2019. I think very, very highly of him, a great man, a great coach, really excited to have a defensive perspective down there with him. And so, I think the Dolphins are going anywhere but up. I'm not sure about that. So, physically, you look incredible, better than you did when you were playing. What's going on? Peptides, what is this? Yeah, the routine's been good. I got a plan. I got big into cycling. I'm like, I'm not lifting any more screw this. I'm done running. I ran my whole life. And I started getting into biking a little bit. I got way too skinny. I felt frail. I felt like a loss. So, like, I got back into the the way room. I lived three, four times a week. And I really helped my sanity. But I hid this morning at 5 a.m. Got a great spot here called Sukah that I work out at. Well, one day, Thursday, Saturday, at least, if not a little more, man, not Olympic lifts. We're not we're not going to make every rep count every rep count. What was a week? That's good. I'm really just trying to, you know, fill out my shirts well. How did you experience the Ohio State Texas game? Well, I'd be lying to say I didn't go to sleep. I did go to sleep. I did wake up to the outcome. And, uh, yeah, I was, uh, the sale was, it wasn't surprised would be a lie. So, I'm sure, you know, we've been a part of some, some losses there and, you know, re re locking in and re identifying what we got to get better at and allow us to get better, you know, back in 24. So, uh, you know, I'm sure that that'll be the case. I'm sure they'll re lock back in and, and I pity the teams that play them next because they'll, uh, you'll see a different version. I think unfortunately of, of the book guys down lebertar. John, can you rate my Al Pacino from that billiard scene in Carlitos way if I do it for you? I think it's pretty good. Yeah. Jonathan Sassilo, you think you're big time. You're gonna die big time. That is my infamous scale of one to ten. That's a, that's a seven point six solid. Good job. Good job. This is the down lebertar show. Let's play our game with the undefeated un-American coach of the South Florida Bulls. Cool, everyone. And now it's time to play Dush or no Dush. Here's your host, Dush, lebertar. Person who sends their food back at a restaurant, Dush or no Dush. Oh, you're a Dushie. Come on, man. Come on. Getting a haircut every two weeks, Dush or no Dush. That's just based on the hair growth, right? I mean, I think you gotta, you gotta make sure you're, you're least presentable for whatever you got going on. I think it's all relative. I can't, I, that's, that's, that's hit or miss. That's waiting too long. Gotta go every ten days. Wearing cologne. Wearing cologne. Dush or no Dush. No Dush. Reading texts over a stranger's shoulders on the airplane. Oh, you've been asked that's so Dushie. Person who won't sit down in the seated section at a concert. Uh, it's, uh, I can't say it's Dushie. They have the right to enjoy the game, how they want, or how to enjoy the concert how they want. Grunting while working out at the gym. Dush or no Dush. Repeatedly, Dush. If you have one little kind of let go, I'm good. Repeatedly. Get the hell out. Uh, reclined. So one time, one time is okay. Dush not reclined. I have too much, too much. Reclining your seat on an airplane. Dush or no Dush. No Dush. Rip jeans. Dush or no Dush. Uh, asking your friend to for a bite of his meal. Dush or no Dush. You're producing. Uh, congratulations to the un-American Brian Hartline. He made our service men cry while singing their alma mater because he stunned them. Stunned them on Saturday. Thank you, Brian. And congratulations. Good seeing you again. Thanks again. Thanks guys. Can't be un-American if all you put out is all Americans, Dan. That's what he does. Put it on the pole at Levitade Show. Can you be un-American if all you do is put out all Americans? You don't think when he took the USF job, like he thought for a second, should I talk to Jeremiah? See what he thinks of South Florida? Number 16 on my list of unique and exclusive to this show observations from the football of the last week. Uh, so Miles Garrett's surgery, huh? Where'd that come from? May I ever get to see him play with Aaron Donald? I thought it was going to come out that he's like, I was sleepy. The way we did it didn't work. I actually hurt my knee on the lay flat. So he's out at least four games, right? Yeah, I imagine he'll be on the quick side of recovery because look at him. The Rams didn't play a game that looked like that all of last year, not one. Not one time. Did the Rams look like that? And just for the record, just I, I'm not actually questioning them this way yet, but before Tom Brady, this is the age on Matthew Stafford where quarterbacks go right in the dumpster. I'm not actually doing that. I'm just telling you that before Tom Brady, I know is the MVP of the league. This was the age where it would start to look like that. But no, no slow descent just falls off a cliff. Dan, this calendar year, he threw for 46 times it was the MVP. I'm not doing that. I'm just telling you that every other quarterback before Tom Brady at this age, this is when the descent starts. I'm not, I'm not actually doing that. I'm just telling you that they didn't play a game like that all of last year. All of their games were closed. They never looked like that. Not one time. Like we've seen the descent with Aaron Rogers, all right? He's, you know, year after years going down, going down, going down. And now this the version you get of him. But like Stafford was the MVP of the league. Speaking of that number 14 on my list is Aaron Rogers who last week before this Atlanta game. Last week he went after Danica. He said another ex girlfriend wanted to sleep with an old boyfriend before they got married. And then also as well, he called Matt Laflora clown. I think Aaron Rogers is going to come to regret some of the stuff that he said about those personalities because they got time for him. And he might have dragged somebody into it that he didn't even mention by name because Olivia Munn has set things about him without saying things attached to his name. And those people have reputations and I think they're going to come on defend. I was surprised though to hear him do that right before the season to rummage around in the bin where you're wandering around and just volunteering the Danica was depressed. And you're just an odd choice for a quarterback to make to invite all of that before the first game of the season. Well, and what do you make of because last year his first year in Pittsburgh you didn't get any of this stuff like the like what you got the couple of years with the jets. That was a completely different Aaron Rogers last year not making the headlines and what have you. And now like you said before the start of the season he's going out and talking like this. Like what do you make of that as far as Tomlin to McCarthy like it doesn't seem like all right Tomlins you know going to keep you in check and when McCarthy's like I'm about that guy kind of I'm just do whatever I want to say whatever I want. I read Aaron's the book on Aaron with my ears and I'm shocked at McCarthy's there. I guess I guess I fixed it. That thing that he did that he did with John Horbaugh the sit down there was so good I felt like I was just a fly on the wall watching two coaches talk about growth and learning that was really awesome. Tomlin is going to be really really good and he's still doing the things that from the press the pressers that I love so crazy with the cliches not going to be good already is good. Then I know you had a bit of a heart flutter when you saw Aaron roll out to the left and then throw an absolute dot to fire move in the back of the end zone between corner and safety converging. You're like, whoa, whoa, I haven't felt that. - There were a couple of things from that game, which leads me to number 14 on my list of exclusive unique observations from the football weekend. You guys see the stat on TJ Watt? TJ Watt is only the second player ever to have 100 sacks and now 10 interceptions. He changed that game. Everyone just didn't win that game. TJ Watt won that game because TJ Watt and what I'm about to say is unfathomable. Do you understand how hard it is to be the better Watt? TJ Watt seems to always touch the football. Not since Van Ginkle. Have I seen a white person in that sport always touch the football? TJ Watt had, he's now got 100 sacks and now 10 interceptions. You guys wanna take a guess at the only other player and you'll understand the athleticism that we're talking about here when I say to you, there's only one other player who has the stat line and the history of the sport of, I could get to the quarterback a hundred times, but also the quarterback's not throwing it over my head on those screen passes and I'm going to grab them. You saw it all over the sport this week and you saw defensive lineman not be able, just the game last night. You saw defensive lineman who could have just had the ball and it got knocked out of their hands. Yeah, the only edge rusher that I saw where that's a part of his locker, you have to make sure the ball clears him because he can go out and high point it was Julius Peppers. There's the only other guy that can do what TJ Watt does and it's not just that he touches the ball every game. He tends to touch the ball when his team needs it most. He's just such a high impact player. Jason Taylor, enough 10 interceptions? He did not. It's only these two guys. It's TJ Watt and Julius Peppers. Jason Taylor had a bunch of touchdowns. Jason Taylor may have had double digit touchdowns but I think some of those might have been strip sacks and from-- Right, I think JT had like the most scoop in scores. I think he might have had-- did Jason Taylor have more touchdowns from the defensive end position than any of the Hall of Famers because he had a good amount of the-- The other Watt might be up there too. JJ had a habit of scoring and without inflating it on offensive, but just defensively he'd find his way routinely in the end zone. Cooper Rush made the play that your backup quarterback can't make, like you just-- you have to know that that's the one thing in that game that you cannot do. Pittsburgh was constipated in that game. Pittsburgh doesn't have a chance of being meaningfully good this year, but what TJ Watt did was he took that game from Atlanta and its third string quarterback. JT had eight interceptions. Eight touchdowns. It's a good player. Yeah, eight touchdowns. Who's second on that list? George Martin also and who's third? Did you want? So number 13 on my list of football observations for the weekend and I'm eager to get all of your thoughts on all of these observations. The Giants ground the Cowboys to dust last night. It is a really good start for the John Harbott era to win at home against Dallas, not just winning at home against Dallas, but that way we're going to be more physical than you are. You will have no answers for us in the running game. You will have no answers for us on third and long. We're going to convert everything. Dallas was exposed as their defense isn't going to be good enough this year. Deckpress got's good for 10 victories a season, but their defense clearly isn't going to be good enough. If that's what the Giants are doing to them, which is any time the Giants had to get a first down, they did. I know you check has some of this in them, but I haven't seen a full back dominate a standalone game like that since maybe Lorenzo Neil, it was insane. What record was doing? It was just physical though. Like Dallas, Dallas got pushed around in a way that I would be really scared of if I was a Cowboy fan, given how bad their defense was last year. Yeah, but they have a solid defensive line and they got like Jackson Dart ate some shots in that game. I thought he was terrific. I thought he was excellent too. Yeah, he was excellent. He had even under pressure, he threw some really good balls that just missed and they're going to be good. I think New York is going to be, if you're one of the main takeaways, I don't have a list, but New York football reason for optimism. That was a really good day for New York both teams look totally competent. I'm just a little worried about Jackson Dart. I don't know how many of those games he's got in him, right? Three touchdowns, 50 yards in the ground. Like he takes punishing shots every single game. So many concussions already, right? He's always in the medical tent. Yeah, and there were some dirty hits. He took a dirty one. There were dirty hit early in the game. And the Kylin Murray thing was egregious. And let's see what this new NFL PA NFL agreement has to say about some of the things that we saw this weekend 'cause her a lot of dirty hits and went around the league. And with Kylin Murray, he may, like, I don't know if he won't get the opportunity. Once played good enough again, that seemed bad. His leg was twitching and it was a dirty ass hit. Down lebatar. I think when he goes on tour, he gets like Michael Jackson level reaction. Really gets Michael Jackson level reaction. Yes, he does. Michael Jackson. The king of pop. Yes, he does. Michael Jackson. Yeah, Michael Jackson. Yes, Michael Jackson. And there's I show speed, similar response. Similar response. Similar crowd reactions. You don't know, Michael Jackson, I show speed. OK. Jenna dan Sassilo. You sound, you sound like an embarrassing person. You sound old as shit. This is the down lebatar show. Number 12 for me. Number 11. And I believe that I can make the argument that this is the most exciting thing that made an appearance this weekend of any kind. That bears offense was stunning. And to have a coach saying before the season, which isn't something you ever hear from an NFL coach, I'm looking to have the best offense, high scoring offense in the history of the sport. That kind of cockiness, that kind of slash arrogance, confidence, whatever the hell that is, Zaz, what has Ben Johnson know when you can put up close to 60 points in a game. And after the game, Caleb Williams is saying to the opposing coach, good defense coach. You guys played good defense. But Caleb Williams, I believe, I believe that's a breakout game on. I want this league to be mine from Caleb Williams yesterday. I'm telling you, Caleb Williams definitely said to whoever he was saying on that side. You don't think they all tell me it's good defense. Oh, I think though that Caleb Williams is announcing himself, I want into the conversation with Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen on a day that Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen stayed in that conversation. Lamar Jackson is not going to look like that later in the season because his body is going to get beat up and he's not going to run like the rest of the season. I can't believe they lost their receivers already. Well, but how about how the Colts looked in that game? Because the Colts started eight and one last year and you were told like we saw the first game last year. They became the first team in the history of the sport to score on every possession that they had in the game against the dolphins. And they start their season eight and one and we were talking about Jonathan Taylor being an MVP candidate and then Daniel Jones gets hurt and their whole season ends up going straight into the toilet. But the Colts were at home yesterday and they got ransacked by a Ravens team that I just don't understand how Derek Henry can have that kind of mileage on his body and still be that human being. Never ending. How is it that you're just tougher and faster than everyone in the sport for 10 years running? Like how how is that possible that that's the thing? But it also I think Sunday revealed how loaded that Ravens team has been. They did that without record and likely look. Those are guys. I mean, we weren't talking about them in their offense. They go to New York and their game changers, Dan. That GPT really screwed me with that game. I was going to go Ravens the whole time and I was like, in the back of my head, I'm like, didn't chat GPT say the culture going to win the whole thing? You know what? I'm just going to sit out that game. Ravens blow out. Sometimes it'll cost you a bet. Sometimes it'll end humanity. When you talk about Isaiah likely, that's another one that Matthew Barry gave you last night for the Giants where he told you that Isaiah likely would be big in that game and he was. Whatever analysis it is that you're making in week one though. It is to me always interesting to watch in week one of the season. How much fresher all these guys are than they will be later in the season because any assessment you're making now will not matter five games from now, 10 games from now or 15 games from now because of how broken these bodies will get. However good you think Jackson Dart looked last night. Let him have three or four more concussions this season and playing that way, right? Because Zazlow says I don't think he's going to look like that. He routinely rushes for that many yards like he is a quarterback who changes the game with his legs often because it. What are you laughing about Roy? What's so far? Three or four questions. Three or four more content. It'll be dead. Three or four concussions. One more concussion. He had at least that. He had at least that many last season. Three or right. Three or four more. He had at least that many last year. If he gets two, I'm like, all right. That's enough. That's enough. Two and a half years ago, we're like, all right. That's enough. Please stop playing football. You can't, you two more. You can't play that way and not get concussed. You can't play the way that he does. Him and look, and I can make the argument right now that in the history of sports, no backfield ever has had more players likely to be concussed than that one. I mean, I thought Scataboo was going to do it with his end zone celebration. [BLANK_AUDIO] on doing that cartwheeling backflip. - Yeah, Horbaugh's got to pull him aside, say, you do it one more time, we're taking sides. - I believe he said he's not gonna do it every game. - He just needed to flash that, "Hey, I'm okay and you're amped up." Or I'd find, never do that again, because you also landed a little awkwardly. Like, I know you were trying to prove something, but it was still, you didn't stick it. Let's not do this. - Speaking of concussions, over under half a game played for the Falcons for Tuo. - So this was an oblique injury, and the other ones are just oblique injuries with him. He got, he's out with an oblique before the game, and it comes with the opportunity to win the starting job from Michael Penix and two days before the game, he can't play. - He'll never play for them. - Would you not have expected him to be better than Cooper Rush was yesterday? Would you not have expected? Atlanta could have won that game against Pittsburgh. I don't know if anybody expects anything from Pittsburgh this year. Does anyone expect anything from Pittsburgh this year? The Atlanta Falcons could have very easily won that game yesterday if they had just gotten not a pass thrown directly to TJ Watt who ran it into the end zone. And, and Tuo is fully capable of doing that as well, with a much softer ball into TJ Watt's hands. - I mean Cooper Rush was awful, and Michael Penix-Suner's probably gonna be available next weekend. - So you're still at under on three and a half more career starts for Tuo and his life? - That, that already cashed. What are you, three and a half? I'm talking about half a game played for the Falcons. - You said Friday days, my name and dress out for that many games. - Yeah, I think they're in a cut 'em. I think when Michael Penix-Suner is available, which could be this weekend, how many quarterbacks are gonna carry? I think they're gonna cut 'em. - I've seen traction, you know, gaining steam on that exact idea. - What is that? - Which one, what does that mean? Traction and gaining steam? Where did you see traction? - Where did you see that? - Then you feel traction. - Where did you see this? Where was their gaining steam traction? - Some more people been talking. Outside of Zazzle. - Did you guys know that that wasn't a fumble from Jared Goff when he threw the ball and it landed behind him? - It was the most fumble fumble I've ever seen. - I had to say it's plus five and a half, so I was wanting that to be a fumble. - So that's the case. Like, "Gar are you a premium?" That wasn't a fumble. - I don't know, for those of you who do not know the "Gar are you a premium" play, it was in a Super Bowl in the 1970s. The dolphins wanted 14 to seven to complete the undefeated season and it's the most disastrous play by a kicker ever. I think I can say there has never been a more disastrous play in the history of the sport by a kicker than in a Super Bowl, "Gar are you a premium" who was not an athlete of any kind. He was a tiny little human being. He rolled to his right on a botched field goal and then he tried to throw the ball. And I believe in the throwing of the ball, it hit both of his hands and went straight up in the air and then was run for the only touchdown of the game by what were then the Washington Red Skins. - How do we not celebrate "Gar are you a premium" more? He was like 75 years old as the kicker. We saw a picture from Jeremy and I on a Friday, Dave Damacechek bringing stuff from the past. He was like, "Who do you know this guy?" And it was like, "80 years old." I'm like, "Nah, I don't know who that is." - Well, look at what "Gar are" looks like and you tell me if you're surprised at that. - That guy's 65 years old. So that guy, right there, more heronist sideburns than on the top of his head. I'm pretty sure, can you guys, I wanna just hold a seat there. - How old are you guys? - 22 years old. - Yeah, you don't have to know which is a rookie. That was his first season in the league. Can you guys, can you guys-- - Let's ask the guy from "Princess Dry." - I wanna see Chris, do me a favor. Please look up the play that I'm talking about and tell me if I have it right because I wanna describe this correctly. So there's a botched field goal attempt. The dolphins are gonna be-- - You guys trying to poison me with a cup. And I'm not gonna drink his cup 'cause he's gonna switch it 'cause he thinks that's the cup that I want. But he wants me to drink that cup. So I'm gonna drink the other cup. - The dread pirate Roberts. - Will you quit making this analogy and do what I'm asking you to? - I was listening to you. - You didn't do anything. - No, I know, I know you weren't listening. You know what, never mind. Do you just leave? I don't need this for the reality. - It's very personal. - I don't really do anything. - I've done it in his hands on a keyboard, getting me what I wanted so that I could get around. - What was it, I'll find the problem. - What do you want, what do you want? What I want to know-- - What I want to know so far. - Saslow, what do you remember here about the play that I'm describing? What I'm saying is the worst play in the history of NFL kickers. Did it indeed, a past that Garo Eupremion was attempting to throw? Did it indeed when he released the football, then hit both of his hands, did a throw by him? - Yeah. - Did he whiff on the throw so much? - He didn't try to catch it. (laughs) - Don't you wonder-- - Tell me, that's what I want you to look up this play and I want you to tell me whether I've accurately described that Garo threw the ball and whiffed, and then the football that he had tried to throw hits both of his hands and ends up getting bobbled straight in the air, whereupon a Washington player takes it. - I'm watching it now. Here goes, ready to go, left footed kicker. - No way. - Set it up, here it is. Ball's okay, he picks it up. - He's gonna throw it? - Bobbles, oh, he bobbles it again. (laughs) - Ritz can score, wow. - Okay, but you didn't answer my question. Did it hit his hands again, both of his hands, after he had thrown the pass. So listen to what I'm describing for you. - Aren't you curious what kind of throw that was gonna be if he didn't bobble it? Like maybe he has a chute, who knows? - So he rolls out to the right with the football, and then because his throwing motion is so bad, he throws to throw it, but he hits the back of his own helmet, and so it flies in the air from there, and he tries to catch it, but he kind of moves both hands together, past each other, like he's gonna high five himself, but they go past each other and it bounces off his hands, straight into the air, into the arms of the defender of the Washington football team. - Wait a minute, so wait, hold on. - The Washington football team. Am I also forgetting what you're saying to me is? - Oh, brother. - There is a pass that he is trying to throw with his right hand that he whiffs on, that not only hits both of his hands again in its fluttering, but also hit the back of his own helmet. - That's right. - This sounds like a riddle that's impossible. Like it sounds like the play I have just described is not something that can happen with a professional athlete. That's not, if I say to the audience without showing them this play, can you imagine a professional football player throwing a football and it then hitting both of his hands and the back of his helmet? You're going to tell me how the hell did that happen? - Well, it's so drastic too, because first he kicks the football, rocket off his foot, hits someone, it bounces back the other direction and he's able to run back the other way and catch it off the bounce, which is really difficult to do. But then rolling out to his right, tries to throw it, hits the back of his own helmet and then smacks the ball into the air from there. - I think it's a forward pass. - I did not know that the Jared Goff play could not be a fumble. I didn't think there was circumstance in which a quarterback would throw the ball backwards and just because he intended to throw the ball forward, it's not a fumble. I'm not the only one out there who was confused by that. They did a good job on the rules stuff where they got right in there. Am I, I'm not, yeah, because they immediately-- - They flopped the scenes. - Well, but they, no, they immediately explained. They got it right away. They're like that, I think it was Pereira. It wasn't Blendino. I think it was Pereira. That's not a fumble. Like they just got in there right away. That's gonna remain Lion's ball. What do you think of the Saints going for it in that spot in the overtime? - Had to go for it. - Had to go for it. - No, it's not even Collins, you had to. There was like a minute and a half left. If you don't go for it-- - That's exactly for the tie though. - Well, you can't play for it. - But that's why you have the go-honance to go for it. - You have to rely and win. - If you kick the extra point, you're literally, you have no chance of winning. 'Cause it's either gonna end in a tie or they're gonna get a feel goal with seconds remaining. 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