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Brez Scales Talks Dropping Out of College, Fiji Water Heir Lore & Miami Life With Money and Clout

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Brez Scales Talks Dropping Out of College, Fiji Water Heir Lore & Miami Life With Money and Clout

In this podcast episode, the hosts welcome Brez Scales, a successful entrepreneur known for scaling brands through advertising. Brez explains his nickname originated from a basketball shirt that said "Be Rez" (for Bergen Resnick), which evolved into his online handle "Brez." He later added "Scales" when he started helping businesses scale. Brez shares his journey through various online money attempts—trading, crypto, NFTs, and drop shipping—before finding success with a clothing brand. By hiring and then firing an agency, he learned to run ads himself and began offering this service to other brands, leveraging connections from his clothing brand network. He discusses dropping out of college after making consistent money and moving across the country to pressure himself to succeed. A viral joke that he was heir to Fiji Water led to an official denial from the company, but Brez played along for content. He reflects on buying his first car, a Corvette C7, as his most memorable purchase. The conversation highlights the importance of persistence, networking, and adapting content as life becomes more interesting.

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Speaker 1 I'm assuming you're not allowed to drink anything else but Fiji, right? Speaker 2 Have the same last name as the owners of Fiji Water. They ended up responding to one of my videos. We are not affiliated with Brez Scales. Like he's not part of the family. There's like a line outside. Let's see what this is. They're like, are you guys on the list? We're like 01 of the dudes running. It comes up to me. He's like, you're famous, you're on YouTube, gives us VIP bands to come in. We're like the only white people in there. But it was lit as fuck. We're throwing pretty cool parties. The private pool hot tub. Speaker 3 Building Epicia. Speaker 2 Yeah, we had in our apartment one night. We all like tickets and we're going to get evicted if we did another one. It was a good run there and easy. Speaker 3 Welcome back to another episode of TSL Time podcast. We're officially back in the studio here in Miami and we got a very special guest today. I also have my brother joining me. We got breast scales in the building. What'd it do? How you doing brother? Speaker 1 Why, why? Why breast scales not Bergen? Speaker 2 Bergen Scales. That's actually a good question. So when I was in middle school, we got like these warm up shirts in basketball and mine said like be Rez because my name is Bergen Resnick. So people started calling me like be Rez as my nickname and then like as I put that into like my Fortnite name and like video games. It was just Brez send people online. When I would play Fortnite with people online and shit, they'd call me Brez. And then that was just like my name when I started all the business stuff. Speaker 1 Res is a good name. Speaker 3 Four letter gamertag is always the sweaty gamertag, I'm not going to lie. Speaker 2 But Scales was implemented when I started like running ads for businesses, like scaling brands. And I just kind of like thought of that and put it together and it just stuck. Like it was just like, perfect. Speaker 1 Name. You practically pocketed the whole freelance brand scaling thing. Like if you think of freelance brand scaling, it seems like you literally made it up. But I did. I did. Speaker 2 Because so it was everyone refers to like what I do, it's SMMA, right? Like it's running ads for businesses. But a lot of people, like back in 2018-2019, SMMA were pitching it as like, oh, start a social media marketing agency, hire people to work underneath you and then like just manage those people and you don't really have to do shit, which like isn't realistic. Like the journey I took was starting as like a freelancer and like being my own business for the first like year of doing it and then branching into an agency. So like I wanted to think of a way to like rebrand it where it makes more sense than that was what came to mind. Speaker 1 I mean, it makes sense. It's it's, I feel like it's got a good ring to it now. Everyone thinks of you. You think of fucking branch scaling. Yeah. Speaker 2 Exactly. 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We are taking Derrick Henry over 70 rushing yards and you can look at the rest of our picks for today right here or add me on Snapchat Richie Lovelace with two ES to see all our picks. Moose is helping me crank out and fire some great picks. He's been running hot we're running hot. It's time to eat some Turkey if you already ate Turkey happy Thanksgiving. Let's get back into this episode shout out prize picks. That's awesome. And I think because you talked it's the same thing as SMA, right And for the and like for some people who are watching right now who may not be familiar with you, right, there's like these different pillars of like Internet money, Wi-Fi categories, there's right free brand scaling SMA, there's trading, there's E com. What else is there? Speaker 1 Fucking drop shipping. Drop shipping. Speaker 3 Did you try all those before you went into this? Yeah. Speaker 2 Actually, so I started trying to get an online business like my freshman year of high school. Like I was just seeing all the stuff online and I was like, I'm like trying to figure this out. So I started trying to like trade and then that led me into like crypto. And then like when NFTS were super hot, I was trying to get into those. Never made money with any of those. Then I tried like organic drop shipping, just like picking a product, building a store, posting videos about that product. And I made like my first couple $100 in sales. So like that was my first time ever touching like a dollar online. And then that led me into starting like a clothing brand through my clothing brand is how I learned to like run ads for businesses because I scaled that to like a couple $100,000 in sales. And then the connections that I had built in the clothing brand space of like other brand owners, I just started pitching them like, yo, let me run your ads. This is what I'm doing for my brand. Like let me do it for yours too. So I my first couple clients started posting online about the results and stuff I was getting and then kind of just snow world to where it is today. Speaker 1 Bro I think it's so funny like everyone who does some Internet money related thing you go through the whole circle of like trying everything before one of them works. Like I started off like truthfully, like trying to run out my clothing brand and everything I was doing was like organic at the time. Like it was like it was doing pretty damn well. Like I was making good money for my age. And I remember when I had to tap into like non organic and like running meta ads and shit, Yo, I could not figure it out for my life. And I was like, this is so difficult. And I eventually like gave it up and then went into trading. But I it's always funny because Someone Like You will say, yeah, I tried trading didn't work. I'm like, I tried that shit didn't work. Yeah. A. Speaker 2 100% And that was like how I learned was I hired a marketing agency to run ads for my brand. And then I was just looking at what they were doing and I like, was watching for a couple months. I'm like, this can't be that hard. So I just like fired them and then just kind of figured it out on my own. But yeah, I went through that rabbit hole as well. I feel like everybody does. Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, Richie. Richie, what Internet money rabbit holes did you go down? Speaker 3 I mean sneaker reselling like everyone. Speaker 2 Yeah, I tried that in like middle school. Speaker 3 Though Supreme Bodding at Thursday 11:00 AM Eastern Time. I mean fucking supreme. Speaker 1 Bodding a whole. Speaker 2 That's ball knowledge. I never. Speaker 3 I never did the clothing brand because I'm just not like I'm not into like clothing and fashion as much and I just could never design anything for my life. But then I tried trading as well and. Speaker 1 Make good money with options. Speaker 3 That was some of the worst years in my life. I'm not going to lie. It was while I was in college and I've spoken about it before, but I don't know, man. You know, one negative Twitter rabbit hole about the market crashing led to another led to watching the Big Short, led to me thinking of Michael Bury and like putting like the only 10 Ki had on like spy puts back when I was like a sophomore, just staring at my monitor and watching my shit crash and burn for months. But yeah, everybody goes through them. How long? How long into building your clothing brand did you decide that you wanted to then go help other brands like scale of brands? Speaker 2 It was at least a year because before I, it, it took me like 6 months, like two different drops of my clothing brand to even start making a little bit of money. And then probably like around the nine month mark is when I hired that agency to run my ads. And then I would say probably the 12 month mark was when I like looked at it and was like, OK, I couldn't figure this shit out myself. It can't be that hard. Then probably around like the year and three month mark, I was like, damn, I've like learned this skill. Like I could sell this skill to other people. That's what I started doing. Speaker 1 Were were you a good like a student in school, high school and all that? Speaker 2 I wasn't horrible, but I was I, I didn't put the effort in if I tried like I could get decent grades. But like, this sounds like corny to say, but like I was in like the back of the classroom, like working on other shit. Yeah, my clothing brand or whatever it was at the time. So like I didn't get the best grades. I think I graduated with like a three GPA. Speaker 3 That's not that's pretty good. That's what I got. Speaker 1 Too, as long as you can finesse through is what matters. But like you know, for people watching who think you need to be like a genius and be getting straight A's and whatever and grinding in school. Do you think necessarily most entrepreneurs like have to perform good in school to find something? No, but. Speaker 2 Like once I got to college over the summer from graduating high school to going into college, I was like starting to make money like a solid consistent 10 KA month. And so by the time like I started school and college I was like the fuck am I doing here? But I only stuck around for like 2 months until I dropped out. And the only reason I stuck around was just to like really make sure I was like secure in doing what I was doing. But even in college bro, like I was I'm not even going to class like I had a whole left but I just dropped out so did. Speaker 1 You ever get like imposter syndrome though, where you're like looking around and you're thinking, damn, these kids like don't have the drive that I do or they don't want to like work towards something bigger. Because I, I, I felt like that left you a couple of times, especially once I started making money with trading and I was still like, in university, I'd be sitting in my classes like barely paying attention and I'm just like, bro, these people are all going down such like a robotic traditional path. And I feel like I can't relate to anyone here anymore. Speaker 3 I don't know if that's imposter syndrome now. Speaker 1 Yeah. Is that not what imposter syndrome is or do you feel? Speaker 2 Like you think so. Speaker 3 Is it not that imposter when you have like self doubt about yourself because you're comparing yourself to others or some? Speaker 1 Shit. Oh, really? Speaker 2 Maybe. Speaker 3 I don't know, but I got your. Speaker 2 Point I know what you read about. Speaker 1 No, you're good, but you got you got what I'm trying to say like, yeah, you just like you feel like you're not in the right place, is what I'm trying to say. I. Speaker 2 Felt like that, honestly, like even though I wasn't making money all through like high school until like my senior year with the coding man stuff, even the years before that, like when I was trying to figure it out, I felt like that to an extent. And especially like college. Yeah. I was actually like posting some stuff on my story, like a bunch of throwback stuff from my journey starting. And I was scrolling through my camera roll and I was literally looking at pictures like of me in college like that. I took in the back of the room just like in the ads manager as well, like the teacher is lecturing. And so like, yeah, definitely. And I think that that was like a big contributor to my success was like finally making that decision to like, say, fuck that and like drop out and like move across the country and just put myself in a situation where like my back was kind of against the wall and like I had to figure it out and like just like grow and expand. It was a big like learning experience and change in the game I guess but. Speaker 3 How much social media were you doing though while you were building? You know these like initial initial like blocks of the business. Speaker 2 Well, I started doing social media when I first started my Co name rank. I was like, I'm going to make a commitment to myself that like, I'm going to post on social media that way. Like if this shit doesn't work out, I make myself look like a clown in front of everyone in my hometown. Like I'm going to put the pressure on myself here. And so that was like senior year of high school and I would be what, a junior in college now. So three years ago, yeah. So yeah, I started social media about 3 years ago. I didn't really start picking up until I started doing the ad stuff. Once I started posting like about the results I was getting for like the clients I was running ads for, it started to actually like Go, which was making my business way more money because people were flooding into my DMS, like, you know, come do this for me. And then eventually that kind of just like as my lifestyle got cooler, I started to get into cars and make more money to afford cars. That kind of started to pivot my content towards like posting more about cars, my life, not just business content, but like if you go back 2-3 years ago, it was all just like business content. Speaker 1 Yeah. And I feel like now you kind of just have infinite content because you set by your crib and you're like, go check $2,000,000 in cars. I can just take a video of it. It's crazy. Yeah. And I feel like you eventually get to a point where your life is genuinely so naturally already like developed and cool that you can record anything, pick up your phone and it's there's this content idea behind it. Speaker 2 100% even on the days like I'm not doing shit if I'm like in the crib just like working all day like there's still stuff to like make videos about. Speaker 1 Yeah, like record through your window, cars in the background, Yeah. Speaker 2 Exactly like it's infinite. Speaker 1 What was like the first big purchase where you're like, damn, I kind of kind of made it. I got it. Speaker 2 I mean, bro, the purchase that will never feel the way that purchase felt was like my first car, which was a Corvette C7. That one's fire, even though that was only at the time like 60 K. Like none of my car purchases have felt as good as that one. And I bought a car that's $750,000 but it didn't feel the same as buying like a 60,000. Speaker 3 Dollar cord. It was nothing like the first time. Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly. So that was probably the one I wouldn't say where I I had like a damn, I I made it moment, but like damn, like I'm really starting to achieve this. Speaker 3 She's working out. Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that was always like my dream car because my grandpa had one while I was growing. Speaker 1 Up. Oh, that's sick. Yeah. Speaker 3 Yeah, that's talking about your grandpa though. What's what's up with the Fiji? Speaker 1 Yeah, wait, I, I, you walked in here and I heard a Shopify notification go. I'm so that like this, we can't make this shit up. Speaker 3 First thing you hear when guys walks in is yeah, which is weird. Speaker 1 Because I did bring you one of these, I thought. I mean, we got ourselves. Speaker 2 Oh shit. OK. Thank you. Speaker 1 Thank you. I'm assuming you're not allowed to drink anything else but but Fiji, right? Speaker 2 OK, like the lore behind the Fiji joke? How? Speaker 3 The fuck did that happen bro? Because one day I see some AI post on TikTok of like some like, you know, aerial shot of like a mansion and they're like this is breast scales house in Star Island Florida, the heiress or the air of Fiji water. And I was just like this is the best fucking clip I've ever seen in my life. I was like, where did this come from? Speaker 2 Still to this day do not really know how who started that how it started, but I think someone just commented it on one of my videos. Like apparently I have the same last name as the owners of Fiji Water. So apparently someone like was doing some research on Bergen Resnick and that came up like whatever, Resnick owns Fiji Water and they just like commented on my video, I guess that my grandpa owns Fiji. And it just started to like spread. And then obviously I'm like seeing this. I'm like, damn, people are talking about this. Like I got to play into it, make videos of it. So that's when I started doing it and it was going like insanely viral. And I was like, what the fuck? And I was posting it. This went on for like months that it was viral. Anytime I'd mention it, it would go and then they ended up like responding to one of my videos as well as one of my tweets. And they were like, we are not affiliated with Brez Scales, like he's not part of the family. And then I made a video on that and that went and now I I don't really make that joke. Speaker 1 That's kind of lame. They should have invited you to like their office or something. Would have made that joke so much fun. And it's free marketing too bro. Speaker 2 You know how many people when that meme was like really viral, were tagging me in their stories every single day with a picture of Fiji waters saying like at Brez scales or shout out like, bro, the amount of money that probably not like a significant amount to them, but like the amount of people who actually probably bought Fiji water like thinking like, Oh my gosh, bread scales. Yeah, I probably brought them a go to mana sales guaranteed. They should have gave me an affiliate deal. I would have been. I would. Speaker 1 Have taken that to imagine like use code Brez at checkout when you get Fiji. Speaker 2 Just for the jokes bro I would have done. Speaker 3 It it's the best water too. Yeah. Tastes good. Yeah, it is pretty good. Speaker 2 Water. Speaker 3 Yeah, I want to go back though into into some of the earlier days as well though. You know when you when you started going to those first other like clients and trying to teach them, you know your strategy on how to market themselves better. How many people said no to you before you landed the first one or how many clothing brands did you approach at first? Well. Speaker 2 Probably like a, a couple and it was so when I was running my clothing brand, like there was just a huge kind of like network and community of like brand owners. I was in different discords with people I would just talk with on the daily and different like Instagram group chats with people I'd talk to on the daily. So like I had built those connections already just by running my own brand. So it was pretty easy for me to like go to them and be like, yo, like I'm, I learned how to run ads for my own brand and here's the results I'm getting and literally show them like how much I spent to how much I made it and like pitch it to them. And then to be able to see that and be like, our brands are pretty similar. There's no way you can't do this for me. So like it was really easy for me to sign my first couple of clients because of that. So I don't know, probably like within the first couple I'd signed a client, but. Speaker 3 Your strategy was fucking polished up. Yeah, specifically for clothing brands. Speaker 2 It's all like, it just kind of happened, like for me, you know, like it all just kind of perfectly like fell into place. But now I would say as I see other people try to get into it as beginners, it's definitely different because they're reaching out to businesses they don't know, right? So it's much different, you know, you were focused. Speaker 3 On one niche. Speaker 2 Yeah, they maybe. Speaker 3 Don't exactly St. wear. Speaker 2 Yeah. And we do like we've expanded now we do like supplement companies, we do like jewelry, but kind of in that like ECOM micro niche. But a lot of like beginners get into like lead Gen. businesses. So they'll literally just like cold call landscaping companies, construction companies in the area and pitch them on running ads for them, which I think is like the best thing a beginner could do because just like adapts your skill set the most and like, you learn the most through just cold calling and kind of throwing yourself into the fire like that. Speaker 3 Yeah. What edge do you think you had though in the in the beginning with these other brands besides obviously having proof of your own business and being in the network? Do you think it was more of like a right time right place thing or did you have was your approach significantly superior to other people's? Speaker 2 I would say both. I would say more the right time right place thing because the clothing brand thing back in like 2022-2023 like street wear, starting a street wear clothing brand was like a huge like online flashy business. Speaker 1 It was all over TikTok back. Yeah, that was my only, that was the only thing on my For You pages. Speaker 2 So you know. Speaker 1 You know what it was like I was pretty deep into that like in the like even in the beginning, like 2021 as well when I mean even during COVID bro, everyone was trying to start up a clothing. Speaker 2 Brand. Speaker 1 It was crazy and like you the the website custom customizations and shit the ads bro everything I just I could never really figure it out. Everything I did, like I said, was organic, but it was crazy time. Speaker 2 So you get it though, everyone was just doing organic. Like all these people starting a clothing brand were like creative kids who knew how to make cool products, who knew how to ship them out, who knew how to like make content about their brand. But none of them like were good at the business side of things, like knew how to actually run ads or like worked the back end of building a business. So it was really easy for me to come in and just like do that for him. And as soon as like I had the proof, like it was really easy to sign more clients. And then it just started spreading like through the community word of mouth, like, you know, those brass kids, legit like he actually did this for my brand. And I was posting so much content about it that it was just like going, going, going. Speaker 1 So the fucking Alibaba days Bruh that she was crazy. Speaker 2 I'm happy I don't run my clothing brand anymore. Dealing with those manufacturers was so. Speaker 1 Horrible bro. I remember I eventually like I couldn't do the whole Chinese manufacturer thing. At one point I started producing everything in Miami, but then like the costs were so fucked. And just trying to run up a clothing brand is so difficult because you just like in the beginning, you're all the money you're making, you're just putting it right back into the brand. So you like don't keep anything for. Speaker 2 The margins are shit, like the fulfillment is shit because you have so many different skews. Like it's pretty damn hard until you hit like a certain the threshold where like you're kind of above all that and it's. Speaker 1 Where you're in retail now, people are like putting it out for you, whatever. Speaker 2 It gets easier, but like definitely the first like starting point of a clothing brand is is not easy. Speaker 1 Yeah. Speaker 3 I feel like clothing in restaurants is like the most risky shit you can get into. It's it's definitely like. Speaker 2 Yeah, very hard. Speaker 3 So much luck is required. Speaker 2 For sure. But then like our jewelry clients, bro, they're getting like necklaces made for like a couple dollars and selling them for like 50 and it's like the margins are good. There's not really many different sizes or like skews. So it's like infinitely scalable, like production's easy full summon, it's easy, margins are good. Speaker 1 Well, a good thing you're not fucking running a clothing brand anymore. I mean, you're crushing it, obviously. Do you think people like have started treating you differently with now that you have way more money? You're successful, you're beautiful. I'm getting. Speaker 2 I appreciate that, bro. Yeah, definitely. Especially I think the biggest, the biggest thing that does that is social media following, whether it's like people who watch your stuff that are like coming up, I don't want to say like glazing and make it sound like disrespectful, like I don't appreciate those people who support my stuff. But whether it's like people who, you know, love my content, whether it's girls, whether, like whatever it is, I think that that's like the biggest contributing factor to it is like the following. Not necessarily the money. I guess it kind of depends on the circumstance, but I would say that's like the biggest thing that like kind of makes people perceive you differently. Yeah. Is like the following. Speaker 1 Let's say on on topic of girls, what's that? I guess you know, now you have more freedom, more bread, everything. What's kind of like the craziest thing you think you've done for a girl? Crazy just to get a a hit in, let's say. Speaker 3 Are you sugar bathing birds? Speaker 2 No, no, no, no. I'm not. I'm not. Are you? No. Are you? Speaker 1 No, I'm kidding. I know. Speaker 2 I know. I mean, I went to Dubai with this girl just like her and I. Speaker 1 You took her to Dubai. She. Speaker 2 Was just like on a limb bro. I was. Speaker 1 Getting her flights. Speaker 2 Yeah, it was in. I was in Mykonos and like, I didn't want to go home. I was like, I want to go somewhere else. Dubai's always been one of my dream trips, so I'm going to go. And like, the guys that I was with in Mykonos didn't really want to go to Dubai because they had already been. So I'm like, I'm gonna go alone. I'm gonna. Speaker 1 Fly and go out, yo. That's fire. That's. Speaker 2 Fire. That's what I did. And it was. It was cool. It was smooth. Speaker 3 You getting gnarly, Sweet. Yeah. Shag Palace. I was just in Dubai, bro. I thought it was pretty sick. What did you think of it? Speaker 2 It's fun. I went in the summer though, so it was really hot, but it was cool. It was fun. Speaker 3 Did they nerf your fit at any place? Speaker 2 No, I didn't go. I didn't go out at all there other than like dinners and stuff. But yeah, it was cool. I think I wouldn't want to go back there unless it was like a boys trip. Like I feel like Dubai with like all your homies would be lit. But that was like just some more chill shit. I don't think it's the vibe for Dubai. Speaker 3 Because I'm sure you were going pretty hard at Mykonos and then you were just like, I'm going to fly out some grill and just chill and go dinner for a few days. Speaker 2 Yeah, we weren't going that hard in Mykonos, but we were having fun. Speaker 1 You know, you know what's cool, I guess like being in your position is when I guess you're saucing up like some girl, you're just like getting along with someone and they don't really know, I guess the position that you're in, you know, like you obviously can kind of just spend money freely and stuff and you have a good following and everything. And then they kind of like find out midway already while you're like kicking it off with them and they're like, what the fuck? Like yo, like has a girl ever pulled up to your crib? And she's just like, yo, why does this kid have more cars in my tiger bloodline? Speaker 2 No because the problem is bro is like I feel like it's hard for me living in Miami. Like even all the girls are like tapped in with this shit bro. So like, it's hard to find girls who don't already know who I am. Speaker 3 What do you what do you think of Miami though 'cause you, you've been here for how long? 8 months. Speaker 2 Seven months. Speaker 3 So you're new to Miami, Yeah. And how do you have you visited here before? Speaker 2 Yeah, my first time ever coming here. I was like 16 maybe. Funny story, actually. I came here for like an NFT event when I was trying to, like, get into all the shit. Holy shit. Yeah. So I came here for that. And that was like my first experience in Miami. And I was like, damn, like, one day I'm going to one day I'm going to be here like driving a supercar. And I have like, more than what I ever would have even imagined in that moment. But then I came here again, like a year ago to like, really check it out and look at some spots and stuff. And then I moved here and I would say I like it. I first moved to Brickell and lived in an apartment and I hated that. Speaker 1 Trash. You know what's The funny thing, bro? We grew up in Miami our entire lives and I think I've been to Brickell 4 times. Like I'm like, I probably like 6 times. Yeah, like I do not. I go to Brickell once every two 3-4 months. I don't even know. Speaker 3 I I she started off in Brickell and then. Speaker 2 For like 2-3 months and then I was like bro, I got to like move out of Brickell. So I found a little like house. It's kind of like out the way, but close enough where I can still go to the madness when I want to. Speaker 1 I really like your your spot bro, the neighbourhood's really nice. Speaker 2 Your guy's spot is nice too. But yeah, I, I really like Miami now that I'm in more of a chill area and can like have my peace, have my focus being routine and then when I want to go, you know, do whatever for fun, I, I still can so. Speaker 1 What's what is like your favorite thing to do for fun? Speaker 2 Favorite thing to do for fun? Obviously I really enjoy my cars, go to the gym a lot, but like for fun fun, like going outside kind of anything bro. As long as I'm like with a good group of people, like I'm down for whatever, whether it's we go out and party or whether it's we go like race go karts or some shit, like whatever it is. Like as long as I feel like, as long as I'm with good people, like anything. Speaker 1 I feel like you're, you're definitely not like a big like going out to the club popping fucking bottles and signs or. Speaker 2 I mean, I like to go out, bro. I like to have a good time for sure. I would say I'd probably go out like two or three times a month, so not like a crazy. Speaker 1 Amount that's really good. Speaker 3 But you can't be in Miami and not fucking go out, especially if you're in your 20s, have paper and cloud. Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, I gotta go enjoy it. Speaker 1 Bro, I will say going out with Brezzo bro, like he, he just keeps going like if you want a drink, he's getting it with you every time I mean. Speaker 2 That's the thing. Like you, you get me going and I'm ready to go. Yeah, but it's either like I'm all in or like, right, I'm not in at all. Speaker 3 A lot of us, most of us are like that. Speaker 1 Me and Brez just forced the fuck out of a night. Like this was maybe 3 weeks ago, a month ago, something like that. And we were at we were at Sable in Miami. Just whatever, having some drinks, you're supposed to keep it chill. And then like this we're already like, I'd say 8 drinks Steve. Then like something comes up or this girl was like, oh, there's this private event. They're like Rufus's soul some bullshit. And we're like, alright, whatever, we'll go check it out. We pull up and whatever, one of us wasn't on the list. So you know, we didn't want to go in without someone. And president is like, this is 3 like 2:00 AM. We're already trashed. Then he's just like, yo, should we just like fucking go hard now and like do some stupid shit? I'm like, what are you, what are you going to do? He calls over like this promoter. He goes, yo, you got any tables available? And I'm like, oh, no fucking shot, bro. What club? Speaker 3 He takes, he takes me to Mr. Jones. Bro, it's just me. It's just Brez and I. We walk in there, bro. We're the only two white kids and Mr. Jones. Speaker 2 Bro, those are the best nights though, when you go into it with no plan and you just, you just my quest, bro, that's the best. Like we did that the other night and we were just running ending up at the most random places ever. We went to Sable. Yeah. And we, we went to like dinner or something before it was just like me, Pierre and my security. Speaker 1 Oh, you hit up Sable again? Speaker 2 Yeah, and then my brother came. So we, we were just like, let's literally just go like see what the vibe is in Wynwood. Like we had never really been to Wynwood. Speaker 3 And stable's sick. Yeah, we never for the first time this weekend. Speaker 2 Yeah, we had never just really like, wandered around Wynwood. Speaker 1 Damn brass table's going to be crowded after this. Speaker 2 Yeah, so we we went there, had a drink. We were like and it's kind of like mid vibe here right now. Like there's no good looking girls or anything. Let's leave. So we left and outside next door is like this random little party thing. There's like a line outside. We're like, let's see what this is. We thought it was a bar or something. We get up to the front of the line. They're like, are you guys on the list? We're like, no. And apparently with some like private, like, how do you say it is Israel, Israeli, Israeli event, Israeli event, like party, like Jewish party. One of the person, one of the dudes like running it comes up to me. He's like, you're famous, you're on YouTube. He starts like glazing me, gives us VIP bands that come in. So we're like the only white people in there. It's all just people from Israel. But it was lit as fuck. They were playing like house music and we were just like, they gave us VIP bands. We were behind the DJ, like just vibing free drinks. Like. So yeah, random side quest nights. That was the best. Like we just ended up in some randomized place. Speaker 3 That's the crazy thing about being, you know, not the crazy thing. It just makes sense though when when you have the social media following, the accessibility is just crazy. Speaker 2 It really is bro, especially in a city like this. Like it is pretty wild. Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, we experienced it all together, bro. That was crazy. And three points, we got access to everything you can imagine. It was insane. Yeah. But you know, I feel like a lot of people talk down on that, like, I mean, more so like, oh, you know, they're rich, get richer and like, they get free shit, which is whatever. And like the cloud thing. But I think when you work really hard for a long period of time to build an audience, to influence people, to teach people, and then it works out and you're successful at it. Like people want to, you know, I guess, like show you respect or give back to you in one way or another. And so you get get access to a bunch of cool stuff. You being there is also good promo and all these things percent, which I think is cool. And I always tell everybody, I'm like, dude, if you think you could build a personal brand, just do it. You get so much access to so many cool things. Speaker 2 I think it's not even about call this person as someone who like kind of does have some of the money in cloud. It's not even about other people having it and being like, damn, this dude's cool because he has money in cloud. It's more so just like the respect that I have for them because of like the work they've put in to get there. Like damn, I can fuck with this dude. Like I respect him because like he has the same goals as me and like the same drive as me and like is on the same page as me. Speaker 3 Meet dope people. Yeah, you know, that's that's one of the coolest parts too. But I wanted to ask you before when you move to Miami, like what made you sit? Because like, obviously we're in this like time period right now where there's these memes about like, you know, young entrepreneurs coming, splitting an Airbnb between 4 homies. They haven't made a dollar in fucking profit. And they're just, you know, trying to breakthrough on the Internet and and be an entrepreneur. Was that the way you viewed my me when you came here? Obviously you already had things going for you very well at the time. Speaker 2 No, because I feel like that's spiraled a little more since I've moved here. Not because I've moved here, but just like, that's just the way the internet's going. Like the online money space, it was already a little like that, but Miami's just like the cliche place to move when you make a dollar online, you know? But there's a reason for that, I think. And there's a lot of opportunity here for someone like any of us. It makes sense to live here because like we were just saying all the benefits that come from like being in an area where there is that opportunity and things just going on. Like you just meet people, you get like more doors open versus if I was still living in like Arizona or fucking Wisconsin, like there isn't shit there. I wouldn't be where I am if I didn't move here. Like as soon as I moved to Miami bro like my growth like exponentially shot up. Speaker 1 Yo, I don't know who told me, who told me this, but they were saying, and I think 'cause they were like from Arizona too, they, they, they were telling me how I used to throw like crazy parties and they were Nah, they used to throw crazy parties in Arizona. They would get like shut down and shit or stuff like that. Speaker 2 Yeah, we did. We had bro. So we lived like right by ASU campus and we had like the grand penthouse that like the only nice apartment building in that city that's. Speaker 3 The one from the first YouTube video, yeah. Speaker 2 And so it was like 8000 square feet. There was five of us that lived there. It was like 5 bedroom private pool hot tub. So we were like, bro, we got to like throw a party. So we did warm time and it was like, I think it was kind of like mid. But then like, we started to meet more people and then by like the end of it, we were throwing pretty cool parties, like up there with a private pool hot tub. Speaker 3 Building any piss at you. Speaker 2 Yeah, we, we had cops come in our apartment one night and then I think that was the last one we threw because we all had tickets and we're going to get evicted if we did another one. That's fucked. Yeah, it was a, it was a good run there and easy, but. Speaker 3 But but back to Miami. So you said your growth really like went parabolic when you got here? Speaker 2 Pretty sure when I moved here bro I think I had like around 100K on Instagram and now like 7-8 months later I'm at like 1.1. Speaker 3 That's insane. Speaker 2 So like that's how much did you? Speaker 1 Have when you moved here? Speaker 2 I think like 100K bro so maybe a little more. Speaker 1 So nearly like 100 plus KA month since you've gone here. Yeah, that's amazing. Speaker 3 It's been a big year for you bro. Speaker 2 Crazy. Yeah it really has bro. Even the last like 3 years have just been constantly like exponential growth. But like the past year like for sure really was like big like. Speaker 3 If I asked you nine months ago, do you think you'd be at 1.1 million followers, 6 cars and your business doing what it's doing? Would you? What would you have said? Speaker 2 No, I mean, I knew I would probably get to this point at some point, but like, not that, not that fast, you know it just. But when you're just doing the things you know you need to do every single day, like shit happens fast. Speaker 1 Yeah, the timing is always, I think is the most unpredictable part. But like, if you're genuinely working towards, you know, what you should be and you can visualize it, then it's bound to happen. Whether it takes fucking, you know, seven months, like for you to go from that jump or a year and a half. I think people like anyone who's watching this, like they just need to understand that you have to keep pushing through towards that, through towards that vision. Speaker 2 Too many people like base base their emotions and their drive off of the results they're getting and not just the inputs and the things that they're doing every single day. If you simply just do the things you need to do every single day and then from there just let time play its role, the results will come, but too many people just get wrapped up on like the result way too quick. Don't let time play it's toll. Speaker 1 I I like that actually. I saw someone talking about it on social media and it's just like, just focus on the inputs, the outputs you can't control, but the inputs you can. So of course, some more inputs, more likely it is that you will get those outputs that you want. Yeah. Speaker 3 It's crazy because I I've spoken I mean TJR and I met when I had 4000 on Instagram. Damn if you had like 11,000 you're. Speaker 2 At what, like 1.1 now? Speaker 3 4, almost 4. So we, we, we met, I mean, I followed TJ when he had like 6000 followers and whatever. Long story short, we've had this conversation a few times cause like we've seen both of likes. We've met each other early on and things have gone the way they have. And it's just like, you never know when you're going to catch a Sprint. And what I, when I mean Sprint, I mean it's like 20% of the content you put out is going to like contribute to the majority of your growth. And you're never going to catch those 20% sprints unless you're always and making those inputs. You know, it's like you've been going at it for three years, but in these eight months, right, you saw more growth, 100 times the growth that you saw in the three years, 100%. And so it's just crazy to think about because it's like you never know when you're going to get on to those like super big momentum boosts, but the only way you will catch them is you just keep going and forget about the outcome. Speaker 2 Yeah, one of my students told me an analogy once, like couple months ago that really stuck with me for whatever reason. But it's like you're pushing a boulder up a hill and the boulders like so big you can't like see where the top of the hill is, but all the sudden like you're going to reach it and then the boulder goes down the other side. It's like how just business content, like life is like you're doing things blindly. You don't know when the results are going to come or like what the results are going to be. But eventually, like, it just happens. You just hit like a breakthrough and shit just starts exploding. Speaker 1 And I think like the hardest part is not getting comfortable with that breakthrough and or just like when you're writing that soon, I mean, you have to just keep pushing harder, which I I've definitely got had a lot of periods where I've had like this crazy push and I kind of just me too, getting really comfortable and I didn't capitalize at all. Speaker 3 I'm the king of that shit. Speaker 1 Nah, you've definitely capitalized a good amount of times. He posted every day, three times a day for fucking a year straight, which is like so impressive. But I've had periods where I just like wouldn't post for like a month or sometimes like I felt like so mentally drained and I just didn't trade for like 2 weeks or something because whatever. I came off like a really good month. And then I just felt like I didn't need to keep doing what I was doing. And yeah, I mean, do the importance of just keeping your routine no matter what, like regardless of the success you're seeing, that's the only way you're going to keep growing and growing and like actually hit those crazy levels. You just can't get comfortable no matter what. Speaker 2 100% I think the, I think the way that I like to look at it is like the things I'm doing now are going to reflect onto the result in like a couple months. So if I'm not doing shit now, in a couple months, that's going to catch up and I'm not going to be getting the results I want to get. But like, if I'm doing this shit I know I need to do every single day today, like in a couple months I'll reap the benefits of that. Yeah. It's a way that I kind of like to think of it that like it's. Speaker 3 A great way to think about it. Speaker 1 Pushing, you know, I feel like this isn't talked about enough, but I feel like once you do start seeing more success, start making more money, do you feel like, you know, it's kind of harder to take care of, like your mental health, your physical health, and you have to put more effort into that? Like, are you more into the gym now just to keep yourself I guess, really locked in? Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, since moving to Miami, the gyms become like a lot bigger part of my routine. That was more so just like I moved to Miami and realized like, damn, everybody's fit here. There's hella pretty girls. Like I got to get in the gym. Speaker 3 But I got to. Speaker 2 Walk in. But I don't know, I feel like I'm not the best about like taking care of my mental health, like doing things like format sanity, I guess. But I don't know. I mean, I try to just keep a balanced routine, you know, like going to the gym, eating clean, like having my time to like relax at night. But then like a healthy workflow to of like sit down at the desk and do the shit I know I need to do. But yeah, I feel like I'm not the best person when it comes to like having the perfect routine to like, keep your mental health in check, like. Speaker 3 Yeah, pushing the boulder up the fucking mountain is really the only thing that makes you feel the best, you know? Speaker 2 Bro I mean you're genuine fulfillment. Genuine fulfillment comes from just like doing the shit you got to do. Speaker 1 Yeah, 100%. Speaker 2 Makes you feel you feel good about yourself when you like are doing stuff that benefits you as a person. Yeah. And you feel like shit when you're not so. Speaker 1 Productivity is literally the biggest source of happiness ever. I mean like as far. Speaker 2 Solution to everything bro, just work fucking hard. Speaker 1 Like money is temporary satisfaction, but like you spending your entire day like locked in doing everything that you said you would be doing, just, you know, grinding in the morning, going to the gym, eating healthy. That's what like really makes I guess me happy and I I'm not sure it's same way for you guys. It's. Speaker 3 Hard in the beginning though bro, because you know, like when you say that I agree with it, but it you really start to understand when you see the results, you know what I mean? Because like the first ten months I posted content, not a single one of my videos went viral. But like, at the same time, I just knew, like I was convinced this is going to work one way or another. And then finally, when you start to see a little bit of it, then it's like that all makes sense. Speaker 1 But that's how anything is in life. You don't see results. Like for those things that really pay off, you're not going to see results for a month, two months, three months, four months, whatever. Even going to the gym, bro, Like, you know, if you go to the gym every day, sure for a month or two, you might see like the slightest difference, but nothing where you're like, holy shit, this is great. But after you've been working out for six months and now you're looking yourself in the mirror like, damn, I'm pretty jacked now. That's when it's like, OK, you know. Speaker 3 You think Miami opened up your perspective though, and like, what's possible? Because, you know, I've seen people talk about it before. It's like the reason a lot of people stay broke is because they don't really understand what's possible or have seen what's possible. Yeah, right. That's why I like a lot of people who like Patty and I, I mean, we grew up here our whole lives where our family's pretty well off and we've always been around this like crazy Miami shit, right? Driving past insane neighborhoods, seeing boats, seeing all these different things. So even though we didn't grow up in those crazy houses or, or or own any of those boats or anything, we're like, holy shit. You know, like, how did those people get that? So part of my brain, I think in Patty's brain too, is just like, you know, these motherfuckers are doing it. There's got to be. And obviously we're focusing the material here. Like when we look at those things, I also think like they probably fucking overcame a lot of obstacles to get there. Speaker 2 For sure. You know that was definitely huge. Huge for me bro I grew up in a small town, population of 8000 people. Nicest car in the fucking city was like a Jeep like so staying in a in an area like that definitely limits like your ability to understand like what is achievable. And I think like the biggest thing for me was moving to a place where I could meet more people that like we're already doing it. And like that just allowed me to like really see what is possible, But as well as like just living in Miami, seeing all that shit everywhere, like makes you feel some type of way like. Speaker 3 It's just like what the fuck? Speaker 2 SVJ drove by like fuck. Speaker 1 I'm bored bro, like. Speaker 2 It just, yeah, it it definitely is good for like just motivation. Speaker 3 Yeah, you can view it multiple ways. You know, I mean, some people see that shit and they're just like, why does that person have that and why don't I? Or you can see it as in like, what the flying fuck did that guy do? Yeah, to get to that point. Yeah, girl, whatever. Speaker 2 And the way you look at it says a lot about like the type of person you 100%. Speaker 3 For sure. That's always been my mindset. Like anytime I'm on the fucking passing by the cruise ships and like Miami going across Miami Beach and they look to the left, you look at Hibiscus and you look at * Island. I just sit there and I look at the fucking house and I'm just like how the fuck and what the fuck did that person do? Fucking living in that. Speaker 2 Or look at the fucking cruise ship. That's hundreds of millions of dollars, if not billions. Like who the fuck owns that? Yeah. Speaker 3 How? Speaker 2 The fuck? Speaker 1 I was like fully even to this day I still feel that way because there really is levels to this shit dude. Like, you know, I'll still, I mean of course, and this will happen forever, but like you'll come across houses and cars and you're just like, what the fuck? Like like even right now I there was like a 918 spider driving in front of me going to like in the direction of anatomy and I literally like skirted to follow it because I wanted to ask the dude like yo, how did you get, you know, 918 spider? Because like comfortably, of course, like maybe if I put all the money I had, I'd fucking have one, but that's like a dream car of mine. And so I was like trying to follow the dude down to ask him and I ultimately I couldn't catch up. So fuck. But but still it was. Speaker 2 In the Porsche. Speaker 1 Yeah bro, well I was in. I was in the vintage Porsche so not as fast as GT. Speaker 2 That's almost like it was probably an older dude driving the car. Yeah, I feel like that's more respectable if you pull up on an older. Speaker 1 Dude exactly car I actually probably wouldn't even have considered doing it if I was in the GT3 Rs. But I feel like in that Targa, I do get a lot of respect from older people and the people who have come up to me in that car are deaf, are like, like just really old, successful people with like super interesting advice. And they always, I'm like, oh, I don't sell that car. When I was younger, I started this business and this show. Oh my God, that's fire. Speaker 2 That always happens at car meets. I used to go to like a lot of car meets in Arizona and like the old dudes would always love to come talk to me. Why? Speaker 3 Don't you start one? Speaker 2 I should. Speaker 3 I thought about that. You kidding me? You've got it. I mean, you've, I mean, you know, people with cars. Yeah, you got fucking a ton of cars. That'd be sick. Like in person community. Shit's fucking nuts. If you did like one event per month in Miami, bro, it'd go crazy. That probably would go off the. IT would take, that would take the. I think it would take maybe a day of organizing, you know, to do like a first. Speaker 2 Well, I could probably just get like a sponsored for it for sure. And they pay for like everything we get like food trucks there crush make it a dope ass car meet and he's got it too. Yeah, shit. Maybe. Speaker 3 I'll pull up in the Model 3 my guy. Speaker 1 You're not coming into that shit, bro. If you need to charge your car, bro. I mean, well, if you can't put gas in it, you're not pulling it all right? Speaker 3 Yeah, What do you what do you think though, has I was going to ask you talking about the cars. What do you think about the whole thing going on with the cars right now on social media? Like everybody, I mean everybody who's in the info space selling a skill, you know, mentorship, I feel like there's some people who truly love cars, some people who are just getting the cars to for the views and for the business. And listen, it's a strategy that works. Maybe it's not that genuine, but what do you think of the whole situation? Because I personally think it's kind of just like now when I see someone get a new car, I'm kind of like, this is lame. Yeah, like, definitely. You know what I mean? I agree. I'm just like, this is like, all right bro, like. Speaker 2 Well, you know what? Speaker 3 I mean, like I don't. And The thing is, and I'm biased because I don't love cars, but like I was, I'm friends with you, I'm friends with Tyler. When you guys get the new car, I'm just like what the fuck? You guys are degenerates. Like this is crazy but everyone is buying a car now. Speaker 2 It definitely doesn't even have the same effect as it as it once did. Like even the past like couple cars I've bought, I wasn't buying them for like, oh, I'm going to give this car. I was buying them like I fucking love cars. That's just like my biggest motivator to work hard is like to be able to buy cool cars. So it's kind of unfortunate. I think for a person like me that that's gotten like rinsed because I just buy cars because I like enjoy them and I love to make content about cars. It's just like me. So the fact that like other people are doing it like just for marketing purposes, like kind of sucks. You look at someone like him, like all those cars are Porsche. He buys like those cars because he loves those cars. Like the vintage Porsche was his dream car since I don't know how long. But so for like people like me or him that actually love cars, it kind of sucks because people just like rinse it from marketing. But like, it is what it is, you know, got to respect it. Speaker 1 I never took enough videos of that vintage portion. I got it. I was honestly, I was just like such a high when I accomplished that because I was like just one of my biggest goals, bro. And it was such like a personal thing that I don't even care to like document it. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, I also love cars, bro. And that's the thing. Like I have to hold myself back from just like keep buying other shit. Like I was looking at this like restored military G wagon recently and I was shading getting it and I was like fucked. But then I was like, do I really need it? Because right now my biggest thing is I just want to buy a house. Honestly, I don't, I don't want to. I think that's my number one vision. I really want to buy a house, you know, decorate it how I want. And so I'm kind of just trying to like stack up paper for that, you know what I mean? Speaker 2 Yeah, I definitely want to buy a house at some point too. I'm just kind of like stuck because it's like, I don't know if I want to be in Miami forever. That's the thing. If I buy a house here I could rent it out but then like I don't want to make such a big commitment to something like that now and especially this young regret it later. Granted I can always sell it too. Like I've kind of been waiting on the House thing and just rent right now. Houses are all so fucking expensive as shit here. Like the house I live in now is like four or five mil. Speaker 1 Yeah, on the water, bro. And you're right next to, I'm not trying to give away like locations. It should be, yeah. Your spot is definitely really nice. So that's an expensive spot to have. Speaker 3 But and you're 21 right now. Yeah, so 21. You have an Aventador, the G Wagon, the M3, the Track Hawk, the GT3 Rs. There's not another one. Speaker 1 Had SVR for a bit. Speaker 3 Five cars. Speaker 1 Had the the Corvette had a Urus. Speaker 3 Are they collecting fucking dust or like what's going on? Speaker 2 Yeah, did you see my videos I posted yesterday? Speaker 3 Yeah, you're getting rid of them. Speaker 2 I'm still on them all. Speaker 1 You should, I commented on that video. Did you see my comment? Speaker 2 What was it? Speaker 1 I said. I said the. Speaker 3 Next one's going to go in the fucking kitchen. Speaker 1 I said if you're going to get. Speaker 3 A No, you saw that comment. I was like yo open up some space in the living room for the next one. Speaker 1 What's it called? I said if you're going to, because you mentioned like a Maybach and I was like you should sell the M3 if you're going to get the Maybach. I was, I was honestly saying like you should sell like half your fucking cars. Speaker 2 Bro, The thing is, is I have too many right now and I fucking love my cars, but I have too many like they don't get enough usage and I'm spending like between the track hawk I own in cash the M3 I financed the build credit and then the other ones are like leased to own. So like they're structured as a finance and I'm building equity in them, but they're also structured as like a lease. So I get to write part of them off. But like the payments on the Porsche, the G wagon, the M3 and the Aventador comes out to like 20 something grand a month with insurance like damn near 30, which I you know, is, is whatever. But like at the same time, it's a lot of fucking money, especially considering like the Aventador I drive like once a week. The Porsche I drive like once a week. I'm usually just driving like the G wagon because it's comfortable. Speaker 3 Which is the shittiest 1 in the fleet? Speaker 2 Well, it's the most expensive, but it's like that car's kind of whatever, bro. Speaker 3 Is that there's a serious one You're. Speaker 2 Saying no, no, the the G wagon's the most expensive. Speaker 1 OK. I'm saying like if you're going to. Speaker 3 Have a which is the serious car though? I'm saying like, which is your least favorite? Speaker 2 Least favorite? Well, I drive the M3 the least because that car's just kind of like, whatever. It's a really nice car, but like, compared to the other shit, you know, it's whatever. Speaker 1 Yeah look, you think I'm getting scoliosis from driving the GT3 Rs so much 'cause the bucket seats like push your. Speaker 2 Shoulder did a six hour road trip in that thing I'm. Speaker 3 Not gonna lie, I fucking hate that car bro you. Speaker 1 Got no way bro I took him on a drive. Speaker 3 I almost, I was, I literally had to fucking do like 5 minutes of stretching after I went on a 10 minute. Speaker 2 Drive whenever I take any of my homies in that car they're always like or the Aventador, they're like fuck this but I hate riding in this shit. But if I take a girl in one of those cars, they love it. Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, they're in that road. They fit. They fit well in. Speaker 3 Them bro. Speaker 1 The thing is, Richie gets in my car. Speaker 3 I'm a Husky guy though. Speaker 1 Bro, you're a big guy. But I was like purposely like doing shit to like piss him off because I I could tell you he was uncomfortable with a bucket seat. So I was like braking so hard and like turning the corner so fast. You know, this shit sucks. This shit fucking sucks. I know why you would buy this shit. You should just sell it. I'm just like. Speaker 3 I could never daily that shit in my life. I told him like the day I have the paper to fucking afford an expensive car I'm just going to buy like a fucking Cadillac or some like BMW 7 Series and just hit up some homie in Miami to fucking drive me everywhere bro. I'd rather have a driver every day of the week. Speaker 2 One of my business partners last night bought a Maybach and he pulled up to our crib and then we went to Pura Vida in it and I was just riding in the back. I'm like, this is so fucking nice. Speaker 1 Like you're on APJ just. Speaker 2 Sit in the. Speaker 3 Back. Speaker 2 Literally like just lay down and like ambient lights and shit like. Speaker 1 Rolling down the the windows at the at the fucking drive through to Maybach, the fucking TV on getting a massage and like, yeah, can I get a four for four please? Speaker 2 Shit is that shit is nice. Speaker 3 Are you doing anything else with your money though, besides cars and Oh yeah yeah, yeah. Investing wise, setting aside money, do you have like a? Speaker 2 Big stock portfolio OK, Little bit of crypto too. I want to buy more. Speaker 1 Big. I just bought more Bitcoin yesterday. Did you? Yeah. Speaker 2 Yeah. But IA lot of lot of stocks, little bit of crypto and that's about it. Just like long term stocks, I can just put it away, kind of forget about it. Speaker 3 And assets wise, you have jewelry, you have watches and stuff. Speaker 2 Yeah, a couple like watches that are kind of whatever. And then, well, compared to like a lot of my friends, bro, they they be having like shit that mugs my watches. So like, that's the thing with living in Miami, bro, You're just constantly getting mugged, constantly getting one up. Speaker 3 Do you ever, do you ever deal with, you know, like comparing yourself? Does it ever eat you away with, with other people? Or does it ever, you know, do you ever catch yourself like comparing yourself to others in this fucking crazy world? Speaker 2 Sometimes, but. Speaker 3 Like what's the biggest challenge you face? Because I feel like so many people, they see the cars, they see you in Miami. You find out girls, Dubai, you know, that was only one boy. I mean, you flew out a girl to Dubai. You're you're, you're traveling around the world. Like what's what's like the biggest shit that you deal with though? Like challenge wise? Speaker 2 I would say ever was was staying strong to keep working to get through that point where I was getting no results from the get go. I would say like biggest challenges now. Wouldn't say there's like one thing that sticks out to me specifically where I'm like, damn, I have to deal with this every week or every month or every day. It's more so just like the random shit that gets thrown up last minute and it's just like you have to use your problem solving business skills to get over it. It's like there's a lot of stressful times where something happens that's like urgently needs to be fixed or like I get in a slump with certain stuff and it's like, damn, I got to figure this out. And it just kind of like eats you alive because like you know how bad you want to get over it, but it's just like you can't figure out what you need to do to get over it. And it kind of just like eats you alive. But then once you get over it, like, those are the moments you look back on where you're like, I was like grateful for that experience. Like I learned a lot from it. Speaker 3 You know, 100% so. Speaker 1 You always got to think about stuff like that in life, like just what did I learn from this? Not necessarily what am I losing or what am I missing out on? There's always something to learn, and it sounds corny, but it really is true. Speaker 2 No, I mean, it's true, bro. Like every failure you go through is like an experience you learn from that allows you to, like, learn the things you needed to know to achieve that result you're looking for. Yeah. Speaker 3 Yeah, the slumps are fucked bro 'cause I'm the same way we're like for me my, my biggest problem, I would say not a problem, just challenge I deal with is like overthinking and shit. Especially with content 'cause I'm more into content and I'm not running a business like you guys. And it's like my energy like if I if I go on way too crazy of a Bender or if I fall off my like personal health routine and I start to feel like not happy with myself and that reflects on my content and then my content does shit. So then I'm overthinking everything and I'm like, you know, it's, it really makes you reflect. And so I think for me it's, you know, those moments, bro, are so difficult A. Speaker 2 100% I agree. You know what? Speaker 3 But you just, there's something, there's something there where it just you're just like, you know what? This is just like a season or a little chapter and we'll get through it. Speaker 2 I think it's just like the fulfillment that comes from getting over that, you know? And that's why so few people are able to like do it and actually become like successful. Because like the other 99% of people aren't willing to like go through those moments where shit sucks. Speaker 3 Yeah, they quit right there when they're about to get through it. Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly. So it's like, yeah, I mean, you said earlier like 10 months, you got no results with content, no views. Like imagine you quit on month nine. Yeah, you wouldn't be here today. Speaker 1 So fucking true. Speaker 2 But you kept going. Speaker 3 Yeah, what did, what did you study when college though you were there for two months? Speaker 2 Yeah, 2. Speaker 3 Months. Speaker 2 Yeah, no marketing, OK, that makes. Speaker 3 Sense it. Speaker 2 Was marketing, yeah, but I got there bro. And like I was sitting in a. Speaker 3 You're making 10 bands a month already, you said when you went into college. Speaker 2 About that, by the time I was done with college, I think I had made like 1520 that previous month. And yeah, I mean, I was going to college, bro, and I was like learning like English and math. Speaker 3 I'm the fuck that. Speaker 2 Talk. So I just like was like, fuck it, bro, like I'm going to take this bet on myself like it's all or nothing. Yeah. And it worked so far at least. Speaker 1 It's going to keep working. Yeah, it's going to keep working. Speaker 3 100% I mean, this question kind of goes to both you though, like when you know, when PB was doing 10 bands a month and when your business was doing 10 KA month. Because I'm sure there's people watching who are maybe at that point right now and they're just like what? What do I have to do to get to that next level, right? Whether it's like that 50K, that 6 figure mark, social media has now put like this whole label on like the six figure a month mark is like the Holy Grail and stuff, right? It's, it's insane. What, what, what do you guys think that was like? What, what was the change you made or, or what happened? What did you notice? Speaker 1 I think like for me, I realized if you're inauthentic with things that you do, you won't see results. Like especially if you're trying to teach others like other people about what you do. For one, you need to be good at it. But second of all, like you need to like genuinely be yourself and be someone who's relatable. You can't necessarily like fake a character. That's like a huge thing because people, you know, you can buy all the cool shit in the world and people be like, oh, that's sick. How'd you get it? But if you're like a not like, if you're genuinely not a good person, it's very difficult to grow a business like that. You know what I mean? You want to be someone who people feel comfortable talking to, asking questions you like, are you genuinely want to help them? And then of course, producing results for people is like the number one thing. If you can't produce results for someone, then why the fuck would they want to learn from you? Why are they going to pay? You know what I mean? But it all really starts with, like, foundationally, you have to have a passion for what you're teaching. Speaker 2 Right, I think for me, like the biggest thing was, I don't know, I think I think the biggest piece of advice like them would be focused on like service delivery with whatever, like you're selling with whatever business you're running, like make your product really fucking good. Because obviously if you're making 10 KA month already, like the proof of concept is there, it's just a matter of like doubling down on what you're already doing, providing a good product, good service delivery. And then from there everything kind of just snowballs because that's like what it was for me as I got to that like 10 KA month mark. And then I feel like what really took me to like 50 a hundred was like just doing good business, like having really good service delivery like with my clients. And then that snowballed into them referring me to other people that they knew. And it just kind of like, what's the word I'm looking for? Like had an effect on everything else, I guess. But yeah, I mean, obviously if you're at like that point, even if you're making like 1000 a month right now, like just doubling down on what you're already doing and figuring out areas you can improve. Speaker 3 You feel more stressed now making the amount of money you're making or than you did when you were doing maybe you know, 203040 KA month. Speaker 2 Depends on like the season, because there's a season that'll come around where you know shit's not doing as well. Business isn't as good. I'm more stressed Other times, like business is doing better than ever. I'm riding that high and I feel comfortable as shit, which is bad I think. I don't think it's good to feel that way. But like back then bro, I feel like you'll never. I don't know if you guys feel the same way, but you'll never be as hungry as you were like when you first started to taste that little bit of success. Like when I did my first clothing brand drop and like did $2000 in sales. Like the amount of like hunger that I felt to just keep going and like keep leveling up. I don't know if I'll ever feel that level of like hunger again. I don't know something about, it's just I get little. Speaker 3 Hits of it though, here and there. Speaker 2 Though, yeah, Little, 100 percent, 100%. Speaker 3 Because I was full blown psychopath at the start of like, what I was doing. Yeah, I had a siren going off in my head 24/7, which just like, I'm on this undeniable mission. No matter. Speaker 2 What I do Tunnel, yeah. Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah. It comes in though, that's. Speaker 1 The most beautiful thing Maybe I've just. Speaker 2 Gotten used to feeling that way. So like I speak of it like I'll never experience that again. But like maybe I am and I just, it feels so normal to me now as I've been doing it for years. But I don't know something about those like early that early journey of everything like just like tunnel vision. Speaker 1 Yeah, bro, that obsession is I think that's genuine like the best feeling in the world, bro. Like you remember seeing me when you dude, I would wake up at like 7:00 AM, watch like an hour of anime and then like get on the charts for probably 7 hours. I'm not even kidding. Like I was spending start. Speaker 2 Your morning with an hour anime, Yeah. Speaker 1 That's meta. Not kidding. I mean, you know, if anyone watches anime, you know, One Piece, there's fucking 15. There's 1000 or 300 like episodes. Really. Speaker 2 Hunting. There's good. I liked it as I was like when I was early in high school, probably I was. Speaker 1 That was my first anime. That's just fire. I can't. Speaker 3 Watch only cartoons. Speaker 1 But yeah, but I was, I was literally like waking up every morning. I'd give myself like an hour of anime and first thing in the morning and then just get on the charts. Cause so the entire day bro, the entire day. Speaker 2 Shit. Speaker 3 Did you smoke weed at all during your your journey? Speaker 2 My whole come up. Speaker 3 You're still smoking dope. Speaker 2 No, I quit. I quit the whole. Speaker 3 Come up, you were smoking. Speaker 2 Crazy is everyone's like cut weed out, cut weed out and I'm not advising to smoke weed at all. I think since my life has been better since I like cut it out. But yeah, I was a Stoner. Sorry mom if you're watching this, but I was a Stoner all through high school and all through college. Speaker 3 Yeah, I was too, bro. We were at two, bro. I I literally can't say it enough. Like weed slows you down. It does. It slows you the. Speaker 2 Fuck I was, I got to a point where I was only smoking at night like college ish or like after I graduated college or after I dropped out of college was only smoking at night when I had all my shit done. And I was kind of like using it as a way to like shut my brain off and like watch some TV before I go to bed and like take my mind off work. But yeah through like up until like 5 months ago I was like smoking everyday. Speaker 3 I think if you're seeing any level of success smoking daily then you have no idea what's on the other side of not copying an eighth of weed every single week. Speaker 1 Yeah, bro. Speaker 3 For me, I would just go into such deep sleep and there would be like a delay in the start of the day 100% my gears would fully start moving and like I really think the start of the day shapes the remainder of the day. Even with like content, like I told Patty earlier, it's like if I can get a few videos out in the morning, even if even if they're not great videos, at least the gears are in motion 100%, you know what I mean? And weed would really kind of just delay the start of my day. And I mean, I'll still RIP a joint though, like at the beach or if, you know, yeah, I still like. Speaker 2 Once in a while, but. Speaker 1 100% I smoke like once every three months, maybe two months, I don't even know. And it's like I can't take more than two hits out of AJ. Like it's impossible. Speaker 2 It does. It does feel great to just like get high, but like yeah, the the cons of it are are much greater than like the pros. Speaker 1 I don't know if I'm just like such an anxious person or something, but I feel like I just have so much shit going on in my life right now where I can't like for me to smoke and then feel like my brain is now going slower and like I can't really process everything as fast as I would when if I'm like completely sober like that shit like stresses me out. So now like when I'm high, I'm just like, fuck bro. Like I can't really be productive right now, you know what I mean? And even if for people who say like, Oh yeah, you can be productive, like you could probably be more creative and relatively productive, but to feel like your brain is at is at full speed has to be the best feeling in the world 100%. Speaker 2 I wake up, I start my mornings, I just like going to the gym and that like really wakes me up and then I'm like ready for the rest of the day. I think how you start your mornings is, is huge. I'm not like a huge like morning routine person, like dip your face in a bucket of ice water and I fucking meditate and shit. But yeah, I just wake up, roll out of bed and like go to the gym and like, by the time I'm done with the gym, I'm like I'm ready for the rest of the day. Speaker 1 I probably have like the most brain wrought morning routine right now. I wake up, I get out of bed, I jump on my trampoline for about a minute, just like get. It's like my brain really gone. And and then we have like this chair just like that's posted up in our backyard right now, just facing directly at the sun. Speaker 3 And oh, I always. Speaker 1 Go sit in that shit. And I just sit on that chair and just like feel the sun on my face. I'm like, oh, this is nice. And then I give myself some affirmations. I'm like, I'm creative, I'm structured, I'm actionable. I'm creative, I'm structured, I'm actionable. And I'm like, all right, time to lose 20K in the markets. Speaker 2 And play Rocket League, yeah. Speaker 3 Yeah, somebody asked me the other day. It's like it was actually on your stream. I was like, should I quit weed? Like the first thing I thought about is you know how many like $1,000,000 deals have been closed while two people are having a whiskey or a cocktail or a few cocktails versus like smoking a blunt or a joint. Speaker 1 It's like you can't. Speaker 3 You can drink on the weekends controllably and be super productive. You cannot smoke pot every day in business, or at least 99% of people can and be successful. Speaker 2 His TikTok he posted the other day was facts as fuck. It was like the number one way to network with a person is to just get hammered. Yeah, no, I'm like, yo, that's low key facts. Like a lot of people I've met, like my first time hanging out with them, like we went out and we're drinking like whether it was at the club or just like a chill dinner and we had drinks like. Speaker 1 Yeah, it took me and Bergen practically blacking out two nights together for us to like, do something. So. But what's it called? Yeah, No, I, I feel like that's really become a common theme as I've seen like, more success in my life. Anytime like someone wants to connect with me or do something, usually we'll go out for like some drinks or something. And yeah, I think it's just, it's more so like trying to see if you guys would get along as friends before you would do like anything business related which. Speaker 3 Shows you true colours when you got a slight. Speaker 1 Buzz Yeah. And it's you got, you got, you got to test someone, right? Because if you're getting hammered with them and then they're just throwing a down like some horrible game at like random girls and being all weird and shit, you're not going to work with someone like that. But if you're fucking getting hammered with like a potential business partner and you just see him start break dancing, you're like, oh shit, this guy's, this guy's a shit. Speaker 3 I cannot talk shop of any kind. Hi. Well, like if you catch me at a function and I'm fucked up and you pull and like you start talking business, like I can get into it for like 5-10 minutes. Oh yeah, if it's the right place, right time. But if I'm stoned I just want to stare at the wall. Speaker 2 Yeah, I just want to watch a movie, just like food, Like shut the fuck up, don't talk to. Speaker 3 Me. Speaker 2 But like if I'm drunk I'm ready to have a good ass conversation. Speaker 3 Yeah, you were you. We mentioned peptides before we started the podcast and you've been on your fitness journey. Are you dabbling with anything? No peptides. Speaker 2 No, a lot of people I know that I'm like close with are doing them, but. Speaker 1 I'm doing what? Retta. Retta. I'm on Retta. All your homies on Retta. Speaker 2 All my homies on Retta you're. Speaker 3 Just a clav though, no? Speaker 2 Yeah, I was a clav. We did a stream together was. Speaker 3 He snorting methadone with you? Speaker 2 I didn't see it, but he said he did before that. You know, that shit's actually, like, true. Speaker 3 Did he offer you any? Speaker 1 Bro is it Adderall just. Speaker 3 Meth. No, he calls Adderall. No he calls it meth because it is meth. He calls it meth because it is because Adderall is meth. But did you try any? You've never taken Addy raise while while working in business stuff? Speaker 2 No, no, I've heard but I've never tried. Actually. I have a very addictive personality. Same. So if I try Adderall, I want to do more Adderall. So I know that like see, I can't touch that. I just, I've kind of stayed away from from drugs. Speaker 3 Yeah, that's the thing with me though too, dude. I have an extremely addictive personality, but I also have extreme self-awareness and respect for substances. Like I've done cocaine, I've done Adderall, I've done everything. And you feel so good on it, you feel so invincible on it that then this switch in my brain says, listen brother, this is too good to be true. So you genuinely need to have an extraordinary, extraordinary level of respect for this if you ever want to do it. So like I got 10 Adderalls a month ago from someone, 'cause I was just like, you know, what's the end of the year? Everyone's checking out. I feel like I've been getting a little bit comfortable. Maybe I can add a little kick to some of my days when I need it. I've used two of them in a month and 1/2. Sometimes you need a little extra boost, you know. Speaker 1 I've always been such like a raw dog. Everything person bro like I wouldn't my brother would always be like how are you not trading right now with the fucking espresso and a Zen like how are you just trading without anything no substances, no no stimulants, I'm just like I don't know bro like. Speaker 2 I just like, see, I, I, I am with you on that one. Like I need caffeine and I need like. Speaker 3 Yeah, you got the Venti latte. Speaker 1 Yeah, but now, yeah. Speaker 2 What's your? Speaker 3 Starbucks. Speaker 2 Order it's iced shaken espresso with oat milk and then sugar free vanilla syrup all. Speaker 1 Right, that that sounds like that sounds like my order. Did you learn that from like an ex? Did you learn that from an ex? Speaker 2 An. Speaker 1 An ex. Speaker 2 Girlfriend. No, I just like tried it on DoorDash one day I'm like damn this is. Speaker 1 Really good you. Speaker 2 Chose the oat milk, yes really because I thought it was lower calorie but turns out I don't think it really. Speaker 3 Is no, it is a little bit a little bit less than whole milk. Speaker 2 I kind of like it. It has like a good. Speaker 1 Little taste in it I I get I get oat milk in my. Speaker 2 Shit but no, wasn't from an ex. Speaker 3 Would you get into a relationship right now with how crazy business is? Speaker 1 That's a good question. Speaker 3 That is, I've been single for four years. Speaker 2 I don't I don't think so. I don't think so, but I say that and then I think if like the right girl came around where I was like damn, like I think this is like the one like I I probably would, you know? Speaker 3 You're open to it. Speaker 2 You're not searching for it, but I'm definitely not searching for it by any. Speaker 1 Means I can't wait to just spoil the fuck out of like a girl I really like bro. Speaker 2 Just but I won't date a girl on this. I think it's like the one, like that's where I'm at in my life is I'm not going to like date for fun, you know, like I'll go on dates. I'll hang out with a girl but like I I won't like cuff a girl and like treat her like a girlfriend until like bro. Speaker 1 Having those stupid little situationships has to be the most draining thing ever. It's just like an unnecessary responsibility. It's like a it's like kind of entertaining. It's like a failing business on the side that you're just trying to get out of bankruptcy. Like it's not gonna there's no point of of spending time on that. You either really like a girl and you commit to it or, you know, like you hook up once and twice and you and you come to the conclusion that it's not worth pursuing and you give it up. But that that's how I think I'm I'm never getting in stupid situationships ever get in my life. I agree. Speaker 2 Appropriate amount like to spend on a first date. Speaker 3 Have you been on, have you been on a good amount of dates here in Miami? Yeah. Did any of the birds say take me to Carbone on the first one? Speaker 2 No, they never ask. They never. Speaker 3 Ask Did you take a girl to Carbone? Speaker 2 Wait, where did you hear that? No. Speaker 3 No, I didn't hear it. Very whatever you're saying, because it's like a meme, like girls in Miami will be like, oh, take me no. Speaker 2 I've never taken a girl to Carbone. I went to. I went to No, that's too public. Gecko's too public. I don't actually have I. Speaker 3 Less laying low. Speaker 2 Have I taken? No I don't think I've taken a girl to gecko. I have some more like low key spots. Speaker 3 That are. Speaker 1 Still. Speaker 2 Nice, but like low key lo. Speaker 1 Guano, just for just for you and Shorty. Speaker 2 I've never heard of that. Speaker 3 A little Cuban. A little Cuban restaurant. Speaker 2 Never heard of that. No, I got some. I got some good like not like low key, low key, but they're like nicer places that aren't as like Miami coded that it's like not as high odds to get like seen or like recognized. Speaker 3 Have you met some of the most of these girls? Like on social media? Just like DMS and shit. Speaker 2 They just be DM. Speaker 1 I mean, if you're not the, the, The thing is, if you're not even in school anymore, like it's kind of difficult to meet someone that's not through social media. Like when you're in university, bro, when you're, when you're in high school, whatever. Like obviously it's just like your classmates, you guys have like some elected bullshit together or you run into each other on campus. But when you're running a business and now you're posting on social media, like 90, 9% of your interactions and the people that you meet are probably going to be through social media unless. Speaker 2 Here's the here's the thing for me, either it's I meet a girl at the club and you know how that goes. She's at the club. Like obviously I hate my wife or, or like I'll meet a girl at a coffee shop. Well, see a girl at like a coffee shop and then I'm like too scared to go up to her. Damn. Unless I'm like really feeling myself that day and I'm like, you know what I'm going to do? Speaker 1 It you have to channel that inner girl on I'm fucking Brez, you know what I mean? I don't some egotistical shit, but I feel like, bro, if there's if there's a girl I find attractive or if there's like someone that I I guess I don't know I would want to talk to, I will go up to them with full confidence bro and just say whatever the fuck I need to say like and I always like compliment something that I like. Oh, I like your fucking your outfit or I like you. Speaker 3 Know he's good at that. I don't go up to girls. Yeah. Speaker 2 It's like if I'm, if I'm at the club or something, even there, I don't really because like I feel like how you put your energy out is like very much how girls perceive you. And I feel like I, I do a solid job of that, like at the club or some shit. So like they low key come to me or they just know who I am already or what he's. Speaker 1 Got 2 hoes. Speaker 2 Or no, see, that sounds super cocky. That's not how I mean it, but like that's just kind of how it is. And then like in a situation like a coffee shop or somewhere I see a girl, the gym, whatever. Like damn, she's really pretty. Like I want to go up to her. Like I'm too pussy to do it like I do once in a while maybe, but like. Speaker 1 It's got to be the it's, it's actually the scariest feeling in the planet though. Like I'm I'm not saying I don't get scared. I'm definitely like having a full blown anxiety attack before I go up to grow if I ever do so, but like. Speaker 3 The success when we say this shit the. Speaker 1 Success rate is so high. You just got to be, you really just got to be nice to people. Speaker 2 Yeah, it, it really probably is. It's just like, yeah, confidence and just like be good at talking to a girl. I'm like it's probably easy but. Speaker 3 Yeah, go through seasons like I'll see her girl with no shot I'm going up to her then out of nowhere bride turn into fucking Ricky Bobby and I'm just like hot girl go up to a compliment her, boom. But then I'll just shut off. It's pretty interesting. I think the best is like you have your group of friends. It's like 4 of you. One of the homies meets a girl, she's got friends and then he invites me with. Speaker 2 The best situation to be in bro, It's great. It's always like, OK, me and the homies are going to go to dinner and let's invite some girls. And like majority of times I'm the one inviting the group of friends. But like actually I, I wouldn't say that my homies do pretty well too. But if I'm the one inviting the group of girls, then it's like I have to like go out of my way to make sure they're like having fun entertained, like I'm starting convos. If it's like my boys that bring the girls, I can just like be the one that's there and either like if I fuck with one or whatever, like try to get on that or whatever. But if? Speaker 1 If I don't. Speaker 2 Like I can just kind of like, you know, be there. So that's like the perfect situation to be in is like if you go to a dinner or go out and it's like your homies bring the girls. Speaker 3 What's your demographic though, with like the type of content you post on Instagram? Is it more dudes or do you have a lot of girls? Oh yeah. Speaker 2 Dudes for sure but like I wonder what my split is of like dude followers to girls probably. Speaker 1 Check your analytics on. Speaker 2 I have. I think it's like around 90 to 10. Speaker 3 Yeah, that's how my 2 that's. Speaker 1 How my trading account is? Speaker 3 I see a fucking girl profile picture but I open my requested DMS and I fucking jump out of my seat because I'm like holy shit it's like one out of a million bro because it's all dudes. Speaker 1 Bro my my trading account is like 85% dudes 15% girls. But then I have an account called list or love list. I know that account. That shit is that shit is a majority girl. No, it's not, but it's it's such a good account, bro. I have like the most beautiful girls. Speaker 2 How often, how often do you like actually like end up hanging out with one of those girls that DMS you? I mean, you do that. It's it's. Speaker 1 Like I'm not going to lie, the coolest and prettiest girls I've met so far have been because of that account. Like I commented on video like whatever or something and I ended up like seeing them whenever I I went to that state or I'll try not to give out too much info here. But but I mean even the there's like like a girl that I'm talking to right now and the Mr. Lovelace account is just or about it was a video of her playing with her cat and I was like, holy shit, this girl is so pretty. I commented, I'm like, yo, your cat looks mad funny. It wasn't even like about her either. I was trying to make it like hella nonchalant and she followed me back, started D Ming, then got her number, then started Facetiming and now I'm just like kind of kicking it. But that that account is is the craziest. I'm not gonna lie, lay up ever right? Speaker 3 Before this, I told him, I told him for my birthday on Saturday, there's 120 people were coming right now. And I was like, bro, we cannot invite more people. And he's like, I'm throw it up on my story, see if any other girls wanna come 5 minutes after he puts it on his Mr. Lovely story, this fine shit. Just yes. And he's like, yo, can I come with five friends? I'm just like, you're kidding. Speaker 1 Me right now bro, the account is OP I'm serious. Speaker 2 It's yeah, I'm already doing that account so for you bro. Speaker 1 You got, you got to make a a Mr. Brez or some shit, a Mr. Resnick. Well, I had a teacher named Mr. Resnick, actually. Really. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. There's a lot of Resnick's in Miami. Yeah, there's my in. Speaker 3 College. Whatever called Doctor Resnick. Yeah, You're not. Are you Jewish? Speaker 2 No, my family is though. Oh OK, but not not my immediate family. My grandparents on my side are Jewish. Speaker 3 It's my dermatologist. Speaker 2 My immediate family isn't. Speaker 3 Yeah, my, my dermatologist is Resnick. He's Jewish. He's Jewish, Yeah. Speaker 1 Yeah, but yeah, we're going to get funky this weekend. Speaker 3 Yeah, I hope you pull up, bro. Yeah. Speaker 2 It's going to be a good weekend. I'll be there. I'll be there Saturday. So what? Speaker 3 I mean, what else do you have in the works, you know, end of the year 2026, Any big plans or any different things you want to do? Have you traveled with all this paper you're making? Have you travelled a lot? I mean you've. Speaker 2 Been a little bit this summer, I'd like to travel a little more. It's hard for me to stay in routine when I travel though. So but it's like, bro, you got to experience that, you know, you got to travel the world a little, have fun. So I got to find a better way to like balance that so that I can travel a little more because I really enjoy travelling business. I'm working on some shit. I don't want to say like too much, but building a software company right now, that'll be like Q1. We hope for to launch that and that'll be a huge long term play. Build equity in that and see where that goes. Speaker 1 Software's so fucking hard. I mean, I told the story kind of on TikTok, but I had like this really good trading idea and whatever, these huge companies ripped it for me. Pretty much, yeah. Speaker 2 That's why I don't want to say too much. I don't want smart. Yeah. I just want it to be like done before I really speak it into the world, no? Speaker 3 That's where the big money's at though, yeah. Speaker 1 Big, big speaking, speaking things out loud before you really start doing them is straight up just mental masturbation, bro. It's just you get that dopamine hit, but you just got to fucking do what you got to do and then let the world see it once it's ready for sure good shit that you're doing something like that bro. Something more long term and I guess exitable, which is dope, yeah. Speaker 2 I wanna start to do some cooler shit with content too. Speaker 3 We. Speaker 1 Have a pretty good idea you have an. Speaker 3 Incredible dude. Every time I watch your content, it's is that you doing the creative direction on that? Like even when I just saw your most recent YouTube video, just like from the different camera angles, there's a it's very curated. You know, I'm not the reason I say this because I'm not like that at all. You know my YouTube videos are handheld action for I'm extremely just like raw cut camera has fucking grease from his hands on. Speaker 1 It can barely see. Speaker 3 Which is like everybody has their own style and like when I see my brother's style, when I see your style, like you definitely have super creative and unique vision with it. So like, are you, are you, are you trying to upscale your videos to to next levels and stuff? Speaker 2 Yeah, so I have a full time filmer and like editor that lives out here, but a lot of like that creative direction is me like video ideas. Some of those camera angles even are like yo do this, do that. But yeah, I've, I've always just like had that mind for content, like that vision. And I've always really enjoyed making content ever since I started posting. And like, the creative aspect of it is something that I like, really enjoy. It's kind of like an outlet for me in a way. So I just, I just love making content, bro. I'm like getting creative with it and coming up with bullshit. Speaker 3 SAS YouTube maybe travelling? You're staying in Miami for a bit longer. Speaker 2 I'll probably be in Miami for a year or two, OK, and then maybe move somewhere else in Florida still like close ish to. Speaker 3 Miami, FL. But more low key. Speaker 2 Yeah, I love Florida, bro. Speaker 3 So nice. Speaker 2 No state tax. Yeah. Good weather, Palm trees, ocean, pretty girls, cool people. Speaker 3 With potential warehouse, yeah, No PR, no Dubai, no, no income tax strategies coming in. Speaker 2 No, because then it's like, bro, I wouldn't move to Dubai, that's too far. Speaker 3 See my family and stuff. Speaker 2 And I just don't think Dubai would be for me. Puerto Rico, you know, I would never want to say I'd never do it because, like, bro, to not pay taxes would be so fucking nice. But at the same time, you live in Puerto Rico. What is there to do there? The quality of life is it worth? Speaker 1 That money, have you seen Puerto Rican girls? Pretty bad. Speaker 3 Have you visited Tyler? Speaker 2 No. Speaker 3 You haven't. Speaker 2 I need to go to Puerto Rico sometime soon. I want to go to that Ritz. Yeah. And like do like a weekend where where I feel like I need it. Like y'all might go alone and like get my mind off things. I've been wanting to do that I just haven't done it like a solo dollar trip. Yeah, just like by myself and just like chill on the beach and work and I just mental reset like. Speaker 1 That's fire dopamine. Speaker 3 You might need one of them too. Speaker 1 I can't remember the last time I did something like that, like completely solo. I feel like just when I was living alone, I was like the most, like the biggest leap I took as far as something like that. Bro, living alone for me was the most. I don't know. You're not the best decision ever made for a bit, but yeah, now I'm with him. Can you hear him from 20 miles away? Speaker 3 That's crazy bro I get so much heat from him it's insane. Speaker 1 I'm so chill. Yeah, you are. You're chill. But like, you know where he's been at because you see fucking already chewed up zins on the floor. Speaker 3 That's crazy. And and coke. Speaker 1 Zero's next to it, so it's like, how do you know if Richie was there? Oh, well, there's a fucking empty Coke 0 can and a Lucy breaker right next to it, you know? So there's always, there's always something. Speaker 3 Yeah, we're going to enjoy these next four months together at the crib that will depart. Speaker 2 That's fire though yeah I respect that bro. Y'all both brothers came up like in your own industries and now we're just like crushing it and living together like that's dope as fuck. Speaker 3 Appreciate it bro I. Speaker 1 Respect that, you said. You said you had a brother. Yeah. You just moved out here. Older. Young. Couple days ago. Older. I have two older brothers. One's 25 and one's 23. The one's 23. What do they think about, I guess you and everything you've done? Speaker 2 Well, the one works with me now. OK, so he's like in it? Speaker 3 You guys are boys. Speaker 2 Oh yeah. Speaker 3 That's sick. Nothing better, bro. Yeah. Speaker 2 It's sick. And then the oldest one, like he's kind of in like business sales round two. He lives in Ohio, though, so he's a little ways away. But I think they think it's cool. I mean, I don't talk like, too in depth with them about it or like my family too in depth about it. But I think they definitely, like, think it's cool. It's important. Respect for it, Yeah. Speaker 3 It's the most important thing. Speaker 1 For sure you guys got along well though everyone. Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah. When we were younger, I mean, not as much. Like I was just the youngest, of course, beyond me and shit, that's natural. That's just like, yeah, normal brother shit. But now, yeah, we get along really good. Speaker 1 And have you done, I guess, like anything big for your family? And I'm saying that because I still want to do something really big for my parents. I think it's, you know, I've, I've been working towards that to give back some like a good amount, but I have yet to do something where it's genuinely really crazy. Have you done anything that's. Speaker 2 No, I haven't and I'm kind of in that same boat. My parents like they're well off. My dad did pretty well for himself. So I haven't yet. I think one thing that I really do want to do at some point, it's just really hard to coordinate because everybody's living their own life is like a family trip. Like take them like to like Europe or something, like something they haven't experienced before and just like a week with like just the family, like that's priceless. Enjoy. Exactly. It's priceless. I was thinking like, you know, I could get my dad a watch, my mom and dad a watch. Speaker 1 Yeah, but not even something like materialistic, just something definitely more sentimental and I guess like bonding for sure. Speaker 2 I think the best thing you can do like for families, just like quality time bro. Speaker 3 Yeah, so important. Speaker 2 So at some point, I want to do something like that. It's just like coordinating it is hard because I'll ask my mom like, hey, want to come to like Miami for the weekend And she'll be like, oh, the dog. I got to watch the dogs. Like, I don't know what to do with them. And so, yeah, but at some point, definitely, definitely will. Speaker 3 That's sick. Yeah, that's awesome. Well, bro, thank you so much for coming on. Thanks for. Speaker 1 Having me any last piece of advice that was everyone watching like you know, if they're just starting out with freelance brand scaling, trying to sign their first clients. Like realistically bro, think about when you first started. What's like the one thing you wish you knew that you think would have just made everything so much easier? Speaker 2 I think to literally just understand that every failure that's thrown at you, as well as every struggle that's thrown at you, is building you to become the person you need to be in order to handle the amount of success that's to come. And to see every moment like that as an opportunity to learn to grow and to become that person you need to be in order to achieve that success. And just work your fucking ass off. We're just fucking let time play it still. Speaker 3 Let's fucking go, Patty. Thank you also for for coming in today, bro. Dude, thank you so much for tuning in. Any of you guys who made it all the way to this part of the episode, to the end of the episode, thank you for tuning in. Breast skills on all platforms, right? YouTube. Instagram. Speaker 1 Bro as breast if you want his business stuff on YouTube. Speaker 3 Haven't even seen that Channel. Speaker 1 I've studied breast bro with clothes. Without clothes, I've I've alright, alright. Speaker 3 Alright, thank you so much dog. Speaker 2 Thank you. Bye. Speaker 3 Boys, thank you for tuning in, booskies.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The guest, Brez Scales (real name Bergen Resnick), got his nickname from a basketball warm-up shirt and later combined it with "Scales" to reflect his business scaling work.
  2. He started with various online money ventures (trading, crypto, NFTs, drop shipping) before succeeding with a clothing brand and then running ads for other brands.
  3. A viral joke falsely claimed he was heir to Fiji Water, leading to official denial from the company; he played along for content.
  4. He dropped out of college after making consistent money and moved across the country to focus on his business.
  5. His first major purchase was a Corvette C7, which he says felt better than buying a more expensive car later.
  6. He built his client base through connections made while running his own clothing brand.

Summary:

In this podcast episode, the hosts welcome Brez Scales, a successful entrepreneur known for scaling brands through advertising. " He later added "Scales" when he started helping businesses scale. Brez shares his journey through various online money attempts—trading, crypto, NFTs, and drop shipping—before finding success with a clothing brand.

By hiring and then firing an agency, he learned to run ads himself and began offering this service to other brands, leveraging connections from his clothing brand network. He discusses dropping out of college after making consistent money and moving across the country to pressure himself to succeed. A viral joke that he was heir to Fiji Water led to an official denial from the company, but Brez played along for content.

He reflects on buying his first car, a Corvette C7, as his most memorable purchase. The conversation highlights the importance of persistence, networking, and adapting content as life becomes more interesting.

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He studied the agency's methods for a couple of months, realized it wasn't that hard, then fired them and figured it out on his own.

He graduated with a 3.0 GPA, often working on his clothing brand in the back of the classroom instead of paying full attention.

He was already making a consistent $10,000 per month from his business, so he felt college was pointless and left to focus on scaling.

He started posting during his senior year of high school to put pressure on himself, thinking if his business failed, he'd look like a clown in front of his hometown.

His first big purchase was a Corvette C7 for $60,000, which felt more impactful than later cars costing up to $750,000 because early milestones carry unmatched emotional weight.

An AI-generated TikTok falsely claimed Brez was the heir to Fiji Water due to his last name matching the owners. He played along with viral videos until Fiji Water officially denied it, then he made another video on that response.

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