BREAKING: Trump Picks Stephen Miller to Replace Susie Wiles as Chief of Staff

All right. Hey, everyone, it's me, Sam Stein. Managing out of the book, I'm drawn by Andrew Egger and JVL. We are coming to you live because in certain moments, it requires us to go live. And this is one of those moments. President Donald Trump clearly smarting from his midterm loss has decided to pivot in the wrong direction. He announced today that he is letting go of his current chief of staff, Susie Wiles, who will be departing and replacing her with Steven Miller, the current deputy chief of staff. As he says in his bleed, I am pleased to announce that Mr. Steve Miller, current deputy chief of staff, Trump administration and one of my most trusted advisors will become the chief of staff starting Monday, November 9th, 2026. We don't even get three-day warning about this kind of shift we have to adjust in two days, who has done an outstanding job. Wiles will be moving over to the Trump political operation, Katie Zachariah there and all the other castoffs. I want to thank her for her service as chief of staff. She's done a great job, President Donald J. Trump. Before I kick it around, look, the contemporaneous reporting is that Trump has blamed Wiles for what happened in the midterms because no one can blame Trump. It's Wiles fault. And obviously, Steven Miller didn't author this entire program, I guess Susie Wiles did, but wanted her out. Now, I think we all know that this is frankly devastating. Like Miller is a toxic, nauseous figure. And he authored some of the most obscene immigration policies, but also other policies of the Trump administration. So I am not exactly optimistic. Let's put it that way. But JVL, you're a beacon of optimism. What do you feel? I mean, frankly, it's a smart move by President Trump because he recognizes the value of having a chief of staff who is a day walker, one of the players who can face the sunlight and work his evil, you know, in both the night and the day. It's, it's an interesting idea that he blames Susie Wiles and not either Pete Hegseth, who fucked up Iran, or I thought he might blame JD because JD was against Iran from the start, right? And so in Trumpian psychology, he might be angry at the guy who was right instead of the guy who fucked up. Instead, it's like once more, he just looks around, find a woman. Is there a woman around here? I can blame stuff on him. I even put that together. It is another woman, unbelievable. They're running a little low on them. Damn. Wow. Yeah, Andrew. You could see this coming a little bit for a while. There have been a lot of, there's been a lot of reporting about different personnel stuff. Katie Zachariah is a big part of this kind of prelude to what we're seeing today, where more and more people in the White House have been starting to chafe at the level of personal control, and especially personnel control, that Wiles has exerted all this time. Basically, the Stephen Wiles, Stephen Miller Susie Wiles relationship has always been interesting because he has basically already been in the driver's seat for policy. Policy is not her bag. That's not what she's up to. She has just been keeping the trains running on time in the White House, keeping everybody rowing in the same direction, bringing people in, letting people go. That sort of stuff has been Susie Wiles bagging. She's been really good at that. But Donald Trump cares less actually about policy and like what specific directions his administration's going to go. I mean, he cares less about that than he cares about being the alpha dog in any situation and very famously hiring and firing is a big part of this. And so even though there have been a lot of policy fights around the administration, there's never really been any sense that Donald Trump has been chafing with chafing against Stephen Miller or chafing against, you know, Pete Heggseth or Robert of Kennedy, Jr., even though they might disagree about things, the growing sense is that lots of people around Susie Wilde and Donald Trump himself have started to feel like this is a woman who exerts more control over my operation than I really want her to. And so because of that, because it's this pre-existing grump, this pre-existing grievance that he has, it actually becomes very easy. And because again, there's a lot of other voices in his ear who also have been kind of grumpy about Susie Wiles. It becomes very easy now for these people to come to Trump and say, well, look, you're looking for someone to blame here who's been the one clipping your wings, who's been the one who's making it hard for you to really let your freak flag fly. Maybe true Trumpism has never actually been tried. And the culprit for that, the problem person here is Susie Wiles. And so you can kind of see given all of those factors how he might have landed on her, I think it's horrible, by the way. I mean, I think it's actually quite bad for Trump. I do not think, I do not think we really have any new reason to fear necessarily. I mean, Steven Miller already had his grubby little hands on all the stuff that it's bad for him to have it on. I don't think we really see Steven Miller unchained. Maybe I come to regret those words later, which is very possible. Maybe there are like untold horrors that we didn't know about before that we're going to see now. But like, she really did do quite a good job for him in terms of keeping the lights on and keeping this sane, insane management situation, basically competent, basically high morale. I mean, like I think with her gone and in the wake of the midterms, we could see some real meltdowns in terms of just basic functionality. So let me just, I'll respond to a couple of points here. Good, because then I want to ask you a question, Sam. Yeah, yeah. So one of this confirms that there is an ideological project that he actually is okay with. And that's the anti-immigrant project, right? So there's always been tariffs in immigration. You know, you're right, like he, about the war he may have been a little mushy, mushy, mushy on that. But like immigration and cracking down immigrants, that's a project he's fine with. Miller is absolutely associated with that. That's his baby. So this is confirmation that I also agree. This is like, you know, I am assuming that and we'll get reporting that you're probably right. Whereas just like, you know, Susie really didn't let you try true Trumpism. She failed you. And that's probably how it went. Or maybe that's just how Trump felt it right. And also, you know, I don't think this is a politically savvy move at all. Like, I agree with you in a certain respect. Like, cool. Have that it. Like, go for it and see what happens. And yet to borrow this kind of famous phrase that Michael Lewis had, you know, my interest in seeing the chips fall where they may is outweighed by my concern for the chips. Yeah. And I can see that. And we are in a dark place with how we treat migrant communities. And my hope had been that this would have been a rebuke of that. I thought your peace on how this was the Alex Freddie election was underappreciated because that was when things started shifting. And that was a feature of that New York Times exposé about how it all went awry. I was Alex Freddie, started the year on war two weeks. Boom. Everything changed. And we are now entering arguably a much darker period where Miller looks at we have a two year window to do everything I want. And that's it. I'm done after this. Like, no one's going to hire me. I don't want to be hired. I'm done with politics. This is my two year window to make the country an image in my image. And we'll get to the clips in a second before I go to JVL. His image is alarming. All right. JVL. So here's my question for you, guys. From Trump's perspective, who is the, who is his closest enemy right now? Like, who's the biggest threat to him? I don't think it's Democrats in Congress. I think it is JD Vance. Right. Donald Trump, his first thing, his Maslow hierarchy of needs, right? The base of that pyramid is always control of the Republican party. And right now, you have JD who is clearly trying to muscle him aside. And so that's my question. So is Stephen Miller going to help fight the JD fight? Yes. Right. Is that what, is that what Stephen Miller will do? Or is Stephen Miller kind of on JD's side? That is not clear to me. I don't know. So that's my real question here. Is, do you guys, do you think that this move helps Trump rest control of the Republican party back for himself for two years? My guess is just judging on what we've seen is that Miller is allegiance to this Trump and that Trump has, but I think it's worth people understanding Miller's trajectory to answer this question, just a brief aside. For many years, Miller was Jeff, Jeff Sessions kind of top aid. And Jeff Sessions was a back venture senator, Cooke, really, who cared a lot about immigration, which is what Stephen would drew Stephen Miller to him. And Stephen Miller was this guy who would call up reporters like me out of the blue unsolicited and start yapping about like immigrants and how horrible they were. And like all this stuff and why, you know, Jeff Sessions proposals were right and all that. And he was not really a major power player. And then Trump first on to the scene in 2015 and Jeff Sessions and Stephen Miller latched on to him, in part because of the immigration stuff, but in part because like that was the only candidacy that was kind of willing to accept them into the orbit. Trump needed a senate endorser and Sessions was his first. And Stephen Miller got in on the ground floor. And so my, my sister, JVL is that Miller looks to Trump in this kind of almost paternalistic way, like this guy made me a made man. And JD may share a lot of ideological symmetry with Stephen Miller. And I believe they do. But I don't think he views JD in anything like that. In fact, he's probably older than JD and probably thinks he's saviour than JD and probably believes that, you know, he knows much more than JD. So my guess is that if it came down to it, he would just go with what Trump asked of him. Yeah. And it wasn't just that he got in on the ground floor, right? He got in on the ground floor and then has never, never for a second wavered or left. If we were to see a Stephen Miller defection, it would be the biggest personal defection that Trump has ever experienced, right? I mean, all through the inter-regnum, all through even when Trump sort of looked a little bit cooked, all through the Republican primary and everything. I mean, Stephen Miller's his personal record of the kind of loyalty toward Trump that Trump craves is completely unimpeachable, which is a humongous part of why you can see why he would be so attractive to Trump right now because it's both the real, the political need. He's a great match to exactly the political need that you just identified JBL. He is so much actual cred in the, just sort of lunatic right wing direction on a policy level, as well as the marriage to what Trump himself personally craves, which is that like complete take it to the bank sort of personal loyalty. Would you say that Stephen Miller is a wartime consigliary pick? Yeah, 100%. I don't think we have the Patrick Gaspard tweet, but can we put up if we do? Maybe we don't. All right. We probably don't, but Patrick Gaspard, who was with us in the Springfield show, Long-Send Democratic competitive tweeted, "We've arrived at the inevitable furor bunker phase of the mega debacle. We do have the Pete Hegseth tweet, I believe, if we can put that up. Patriots in control. That is Hegseth, who is logically endangered right now for his own job, but clearly feels like this is, you know, the Corga and really back in the fox hole together." Hegseth has to be. Oh my god, he got the woman, not me. Yeah, yeah. So much relief that some other head has rolled, at least for his and maybe it's the only head that needs to roll. Especially since Marcia said she wants no part of him. He's got no job. All right, you guys want to go through some of the Steven Miller? Yes. All right. Here we go. Let's start with the beginning. Miller's laws of power. Here we go. The question about who is now running Venezuela is one that even members of Congress who are big Trump supporters say they're not quite sure about. Senator Majority Leader John Thune told CNN's Manoraju that he doesn't know what President Trump meant by his assertion that the US is running Venezuela and he said he needs more information. Can you tell us what the president means when he says as is acting president Delce Rodriguez in charge? Is she running Venezuela or not? Well, but the president said it's true. The United States of America is running Venezuela. By definition, that's true. Jake, we live in a law or sorry, we live in a world in which you can you can talk all you want about international niceties and everything else. But we live in a world in the real world, Jake, that is governed by strength, that is governed by force, that is governed by power. These are the iron laws of the world. But are you saying that the beginning of time? But in terms of the day-to-day operations in Venezuela, that is president acting president Rodriguez, right? It's not some sort of American emissary. No, what I'm saying is we'll look at going here, Jake, so when I say what I'm saying, you'll follow up. But what I'm saying is just one level above that, which is that by definition, we are in charge because we have the United States military stationed outside the country. We set the terms and conditions. We have a complete embargo on all of their oil and their ability to do commerce. Okay, we could probably stop there. We get the point. So yeah, Imperial U.S. back-and-effect military, we're just going to set the conditions. That's the future. There is no law. That wasn't even asked about that, by the way. That wasn't even what Jake meant. Jake is just like who is actually in the day-to-day. But he could not wait to say that. That is what gets him out of bed in the morning. It's just this idea that all this other stuff is just sort of like, you know, dork niceties. It's like play, it's K-fade. It's play acting. It's like a tea party to act like different countries actually set their own laws and govern themselves and things. No, it's the fist. It's our fist and we are in charge. We are a nation of guns, not a nation of laws. Yeah, that's great. And that just extends not just to our relations with other countries, but our relations with human beings. Why don't we play the suspend habeas corpus clip? Well, the constitution is clear. And that, of course, is the supreme law of the land that the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus can be suspended in time of invasion. So it's an option we're actively looking at. Look, a lot of. All right. So we can just do what we want with habeas corpus because I have declared an invasion. Why is the constitution the supreme law of the land? I thought the iron law was the hour in change. Is he how like seamlessly he slips back and forth between these things? It's great. Oh my god. Okay. Why don't we play banning foreign pregnant women? Are we banning pregnant women from America? Are we banning foreign pregnant women? Well, what I'm saying, Jesse, is that you have to now think very carefully about who you let into your country, even on a temporary basis, because the possibility, as you said, for birth tourism, right? They do that people come here just to have babies on American soil and that baby gets to be a citizen for life. So you have mothers that come in, fully pregnant, have a baby, go home. And again, that baby gets Medicaid and that baby gets welfare and that baby gets cash assistance and can send, you know, leave the baby with, you know, a cousin, a relative, whatever. And then to send welfare checks back home, you can support a whole family. Pregnancy tests at the border. I don't know. Is that where we're going? I mean, if he had his brothers, yes. No, seriously, he would. It's actually, if he had his brothers, he wouldn't let brown people in even to visit. It's, you're funny. I shouldn't, I didn't even ask a question because I remember when this clip happened and I made a joke about like, are they going to have sonograms at the borders? Ha, ha, ha, ha. And it was like being facetious, obviously. And his wife, Katie Miller, X, right, I said, like, earnestly responded to my tweet. It was like, no, you can buy pregnancy tests at CVS for pretty cheap and you can just give them to the border patrol. And I was like, oh, they actually believe this. I guess we're doing this. Yeah. And it's important to, I mean, this all comes, like, I believe, correct me if I'm wrong. I think this comes in the context of the Supreme Court refusing to do what they wanted, which is throw out birthright citizenship altogether. I mean, it would also just kind of is another insight into the way he does politics because yeah, because you can never accept even at the most obvious defeat that's incoming like they, all of a sudden the Constitution's not the Supreme law of the land. Is it Andrew? Since birthright citizenship is in the Constitution, that we can throw out. Yes. And they immediately try to, they try to throw it out. And when they fail at the Supreme Court, like everybody knew, they would, they immediately try to escalate. They immediately try to find new ways to carve around it, new ways to diminish that in week and then. There it is. That's her response to my tweet. You actually just need to wrap everything just sold at all drugstores. I knew I remembered that correctly. As to your point about birthright citizenship, it's all a moot point because the real law is the law of the gun. That's really what it's about folks. All right, let's keep going. This is just a really depressing montage of clips. Nations that would have never invented the wheel. Let's play that one. We have people from all over the world from their rural nations. Nations that on their own would have never invented the wheel. Let alone modern technology. Let alone medicine. Let alone air travel. And they can just come into the country, have a baby at a hospital, paid for by you and me. And then that baby is automatically a citizen. That baby can sit on a jury when he turns 18 and sit in judgment of you and sit in judgment of me and sit in judgment of our loved ones. Can decide who our mayors are, our governors are, our presidents are, citizenship means nothing if it is open to everyone. I'm starting to suspect he doesn't like immigrants. Is it immigrants or is it just brown people? You're right. He likes South African immigrants. Yeah. He likes immigrants from certain places. He has no problem with certain places. I mean, I'm sorry. I don't mean to be reductionist about it. Sure. Is there a steel man argument that he is not simply engaged in open racism? No, he is engaged in open racism. Right. It was that trick question. I feel like it's like, oh, I mean, it's like, you know, well, you know, maybe it's more complicated that maybe the xenophobia, not racism or I don't know. I'm just trying to be fair, balanced, going fox, buddy. All right. It's a very distinct, distilled summarization of world view came at that infamous Madison Square Guardian rally prior to the 2024 elections, where he just really, it was helpful because he summarized it so distinctly like this. What do you guys think of as speaking style? Effective? Does it draw you in? You know, have you ever read that John Gans thing like the jock creep theory of fascism, where you have like your Mussolini types, just more like the Trump thing, and you have your Hitler types, which is more of the Stephen Miller thing in terms of just like this, this little kind of weedy guy yelling a lot, but like yelling with conviction and shaking his fists, and I don't know, there's, there, there historically has been a certain kind of audience that has been receptive to that sort of thing, I suppose, not really my bag. Not my bag. So let's look, let's look forward a little bit. All right. What does this mean? I mean, I'm talking about like we can speak in generalities about Trump being more pugnacious than even was about the White House just basically, you know, fighting everything everywhere, but like what does it mean from like an operational or even a policy standpoint? Sam, you brought up, I mean, at the top and what we've been talking about all along is the immigration stuff. And of course, I think that this is obvious evidence that that is going to be an enormous part still. I mean, to whatever degree they sort of slow walked that for the last year going into the midterms, we have no idea whether that will continue. It seems very plausible they could get back to the 2025 style stuff. But I also wanted to bring up like one other element of the whole Stephen Miller agenda that we've hardly talked about, which is that all these clips are about, you know, America's for Americans and Americans only and it's this inside versus outside dichotomy. But that is not the only big dichotomy that Stephen Miller is into. Stephen Miller is also the leading guy in the Trump administration of prosecuting the idea that basically the entire broad left, basically all Democrats everywhere don't really count as Americans at all. And we saw this most strongly in the immediate aftermath of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, where Stephen Miller was the guy who basically was waving the bloody shirt after that tragedy, after his death to say, the whole left has endorsed this, the whole left is behind this, the whole left ultimately is responsible for this. Yeah, this tweet is a really good example of this. Again, this is just days later. There's an ideology that's been steadily growing in this country, which hates everything that is good, righteous and beautiful, celebrates everything that is warped, twisted and depraved, in ideology at war with family and nature. It's adherents organized constantly to tear down and destroy every mark of grace and beauty while lifting up everything monstrous and foul. The fate of millions depends upon the defeat of this wicked ideology, the fate of our children, our society, our civilization hinges on it. Around this same time, he was constantly going on TV to talk about how the Trump administration was going to use every lever of power, every legal pretext, everything they could possibly do to root out what he was describing as essentially these terrorist entities, which, you know, up to and including the entire Democratic Party. And this is just stuff that he was saying at that time. Now, that is not a thing that was actually a big focus of the Trump administration, at least after Minneapolis. I think that like we gesture toward that too. I mean, they kind of got cold feet about using too much state power against sort of their domestic political enemies at scale. But this is the kind of thing that Stephen Miller believes. This is the kind of thing that really does get him out of bed in the morning. And you have to wonder what that looks like for the for a White House that that doesn't seem to feel any need to triangulate. And now is in fact passed. It's only real political point of possible triangulation. I mean, like to whatever extent. But what does that mean? That's stuff for the midterm. So what does that mean? Like he's going to go after act blue? Is he going to like go after? Act blue. Any body seclusion. Anybody protesters in the streets, you know, like anybody related to any of these groups that that, you know, I don't know, indivisible. No kings. Who the heck knows? Like like he was painting with the broadest brush you could possibly imagine. You know, Rico charges. Like who like this is this is not me speculating. These are things that he was bringing up at the time as like possible avenues of power that they would want to be making use of. Yeah. I mean, I remember his actions around Alex Freddie, where it was not his instinct was that this was some sort of leftist organized effort to cause chaos. Here's the tweet. Sort of an infamous tweet now in retrospect where he called Alex Freddie a domestic terrorist who tried to assassinate federal law enforcement. And he basically says that you in the state's entire democratic leadership team had been flaming the flames of insurrection for a singular purpose of stopping the deportation of illegals. And so you're you're right. Yeah. I know I've been ranting, but like one other quote that I just that I just found because I wrote about this again right around this time last year. This is Miller on Sean Hannity. The last message I'm just quoting him, the last message that Charlie Kurt gave me before he joined his creator in heaven was he said that we have to dismantle and take on the radical left organizations in this country. There are fomenting violence. And we are going to do that under President Trump's leadership. I don't care how it could be a rico charge, a conspiracy charge, conspiracy against the United States insurrection. But we are going to do what it takes to dismantle the organizations and the entities that are fomenting riots that are doxing that are trying to inspire terrorism that are committing acts of wanton violence. The power of law enforcement under President Trump's leadership will be used to find you will be used to take away your money, take away your power, and if you've broken the law to take away your freedom. So you can see there I mean like the unbelievable scope of what he's saying there, not just people who foment riots, but anyone who doxes anybody online, people who are trying to inspire terrorism, which at this time he's talking about people who are joking about Charlie Kirk's death, like terrible posts, horrible stuff on a human level. But he is saying that that is the kind of stuff that's going to put you in the crosshairs of his government if he's given his brothers. And then just to put one more fine point on it, it'll be used to the power of law enforcement will be used to find you will be used to take away your money, take away your power. And then if you've broken the law to take away your freedom, apparently you don't have to break the law for those first few to apply. I mean, like again, this is not me. This is all stuff Stephen Miller was saying, you know, 16, 15 months ago at the peak of his own political influence until that point, it seems to diminish for a while, but not now he's back in charge. He's the top guy in the job at this point. JVL. I mean, as a, so as a political matter, I think the idea is to turn Trump into a citadel for nativism, right? And so you have to stick with Trump because if you don't, everything goes bad on immigration and you can't trust all the other people in immigration. And really, I mean, honestly, if somebody has a wife who's brown, can you really trust them either JD? And you could see again, I'm just thinking about this not as a policy thing, but as a political thing. If his, if his first job is to hold on to the Republican party and to stop any potential mutiny or slide away from him, the way to do that is to start insinuating that there were people around who actually were soft on the immigration stuff and were soft on the insurrection stuff. And that anybody who is not in favor of Trump being the maximum leader is not trustworthy on this. And that's why you put Miller at the center of that political project. Just thinking out loud here, you know, no, it's hard to come up with an alternative logic here. Because in theory, you look at the absolute wreckage of the midterm and you say, well, that didn't work. That was dumb. Like, let's not do that again. I have two years and I should repair things. But in practice, he's done the exact opposite. At first, you was saying, remember, I mean, this is like in the more, either the Tuesday night or Wednesday morning, he was like, yeah, I recognize the victory and maybe we'll make deals with them. Yeah, he's like, we could work with Democrats, yeah. But then of course, you look at everything in Trump's history and of course, he would do this. Trump did speak, after having trouble opening the umbrella. It was brief, but we have video of it. I don't think there's much there, but it's worth watching just to see how his body languages and what he sets. I think this is a very good job. Great job. Like, I just want to make it seeming great. We got to make moves. That sounds like a guy who wants to fight. I mean, I did just write a try and saying, I don't know, all week, this looked like a guy who's getting dragged around by events. Replacing wild with Miller and coming out and saying, yeah, I felt like we had to make a move. That sounds like a guy who maybe still has some fighting them. I'm still so torn on it personally, like I totally agree that is one point interpretation of that. Isn't it also potentially plausible that that in In Trump's mind, he is basically completely checked out. I mean, this is what we have seen for three days from him now that all he wants to do is talk about the ballroom and like find somebody to blame. Like those are the two big things. Talk about the ballroom, find somebody to blame so we can get back in his happy place and stop seething. And like in theory, you could imagine that Trump is just like, you know, I'm mad at Susie, forget her, who's up, who's next, who's been really loyal. It's Steve. Like get him in here. Like that seems possible. But again, like, I think, I think we kind of have to wait and see which of these narratives are gonna. Yeah. To extend JVL though, it's, you know, now I would be very surprised if a Hague South were pushed out or a cash patrol or pushed out or any of these like uber loyalists were pushed out. This is, we're going to war with the people we have and that's that. I got nothing else. Might as well just go for it. Yeah. Just we can close up a little bit, but I want to go into like old Stephen Miller lore because these are fun clips and we can laugh at the guy. Can we get the picture of him with his horrible hair dye? Just for the sake of I just had to, I'm sorry, I feel like there's a constitutional obligation to put up this picture. It's not as strong as habeas corpus, but it's close to it and, you know, we have to do it. Do you guys remember the story of the Susie that he threw out? Do you remember that one? You don't remember that one? Is this the janitor thing? No. Well, okay, let's do the janitor thing first, if we still have it, if we don't have it, then I can just, okay, who is sick and tired of being told to pick up my trash, I mean, I'm bloody up janitors, I'm made up doing more. What a fun guy to hang out with at college, you know, it was a high school. You know, I find that more, in a strange way, I find that worse than the other stuff. Okay. Yeah. It's because this is like, this is a fulfillment from this. This is just right. This isn't even about nativeism or immigration or clash of civilizations or an old Toimbe shit. This is just entitlement that I don't have to do this. You do this for me. Yeah. What up? What a prick. What up. There's this. There's this other one about torture. Why who's on a bus? Let's play that one. Okay. The issue of the Iraqi civilians. I think that as many of them as should survive is possible because the goal of any military conflict is to kill as few people as possible. But as there's a lot of him who's saying this henchmen, I think the ideal solution would be to cut off their fingers. I don't think it's necessary to kill them entirely. We're not about barbaric people, we respect life. Therefore torture is the way to go because torture people can live. Torture is a celebration of life and human dignity. We need to remember that as we enter these very dark and dangerous times in the next century. I only hope that many of my peers and people who will be leading this country will appreciate the value and respect that torture shows those other cultures. What a loser. Really fun guy. A freaking loser. Pretty old stuff. All right. You want to hear the sushi story? You want to talk about that? No. Tell me, tell me all. So the sushi story took place in Trump one and he was living, Stephen was living in city center, DC, which is the, for people who don't know, kind of very upscale reinvention of Chinatown, all these sort of nice apartments and these fancy restaurants. And he was there and it was, you know, ironic because he hates the Washington elites, but he was among them. Anyways, he ordered sushi from one of the restaurants that was in city center, a nice sushi place, got about $80 with the sushi according to the reports of the time. And I think a waiter or someone who worked at the restaurant noticed him and followed him out into the street and just went, "Hey, Stephen!" And like just gave him the double birds and Miller was just like petrified, he's angry about it. And he took his $80 with the sushi and he just threw it into the trash. Now he, yes, he just threw it into the trash and he said, he said he was worried that the guy might have spit on it or something like that. So that was the thing. Apparently, he told all the White House colleagues the story later about how he threw away his $80 sushi and stupid shit like the level of paranoia is another under examined element. Like this is also another through line with with the Miller's who have like moved a couple of times since Trump 2.0, they live on. They don't have to leave a military base now because they're afraid of doxing and these sorts of things. Did you see that clip of K.D. Miller? Sick parties there? Isn't that part of the board? Yeah. They supposedly are big party theorists. But did you see that clip of K.D. Miller, his wife? Her vote? Yes, he did register. He did register. Yeah, exactly. In Virginia, he doxed you if you vote was what K.D. Miller said. Why is Stephen Miller eating sushi? I thought he was an American patriot. That's not heritage America food. This came up at the time. It was like, wait a second. That sounds like K.D. Miller is the weak culture food or immigrant culture food. What do you do? And Stephen, you just got he burgers and steaks. That's it. Some of his people are the part out for East Asia. For cuisine. Yeah. All right. We have some Democratic reaction. I came Jeffery. So Stephen Miller is a dangerous uniform and reckless extremist who is American blood on his hands. His presence in the government should be eradicated like a malignant tumor fire him today. Well, sorry, Mr. Speaker, to be he was actually elevated today. So I don't think he's going to get fired, but we get the point. All right. I don't have much more to say. I think my closing thought is this is it's dark. It's actually quite dark. And I, you know, we spent a lot of time here over the past two years, spotlight in communities that were torn apart at the seams by Stephen Miller. Families that were torn apart, people whose rights were trampled upon. And the hope coming out of the election was that maybe some sort of recalibration would happen around that specifically and around other things, of course. This is obviously a proof point that that's not going to happen. The deportations, the tensions will continue that they're going to terrorize communities. And that's really alarming on an emotional and political level. And you know, there's not much to say other than that, that it's, it is, we are in for another very dark two years around these things and it's hard to fan them, but that's where we're at. Anything from you guys? I mean, two years is a long fucking time when you have a mad man as president of the United States. Okay, well, with that, folks, thanks for joining us live. We had to come to you with this big break in news. I'm sure there's going to be a lot more like this, so of course, the weekend, maybe not quite this caliber, but boy, it just got darker after a couple days of light. So Andrew JVL, thanks a bunch for those who tune in. Thanks so much as well. We have a sale going on, by the way, on sub-stack, if you're interested in stuff like this, it is at the bulk.com/join or they're just gone through some of the original porn, it's like the first day. Also, I feel really bad. I know I was supposed to kick it to an ad during this and I screwed that up. Chris, do you want me to play the ad or no? Just let me know in the slack before we like. Yes. Okay. We're going to voice of God, Chris. Our outro, hey, folks, don't leave in mass. 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