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Breaking Our NDA & Going on Reality TV

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Breaking Our NDA & Going on Reality TV

The podcast features a lively and personal exchange centered on friendship, personal growth, and critical reflections on culture and media. The host begins with a lighthearted moment enjoying King’s Hawaiian Cinnamon Bites, which sets a joyful tone. This leads into a deep dive with long-time friend Sav Meers, recalling their friendship since 2018 and shared experiences in church, where they encountered troubling practices like financial exploitation and misleading spiritual messaging. The conversation shifts to a candid critique of reality TV, especially *America’s Next Top Model*, which the hosts believe often exploits people and distorts truth for entertainment. They emphasize body positivity, noting the importance of seeing diverse body types and health standards in media. Personal stories about trauma, mental health, and life-altering decisions—like a back injury and sleep disturbances—underscore the need for self-awareness and healing. The hosts also highlight the value of community, offering shout-outs to friends, businesses, and personal milestones. Ultimately, the episode blends humor, vulnerability, and activism, promoting authenticity, self-acceptance, and critical thinking about institutions and media. Throughout, the tone remains supportive, grounded in real-life experiences and a desire for deeper, more honest relationships.

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Ugh, I hate Mondays. King's Hawaiian Cinnamon Swirl Bite? Uh, Taylor Hansen? Sure, I'll try one. Mmm. Hey, let's get back to work, please. But Taylor Hansen's making my day way better with these new soft and swirly King's Hawaiian Cinnamon Bites. Taylor Hansen? Nice! Try one. Mmm. King's Hawaiian Cinnamon Bites. There's nothing like it. *Squishy* Well, well, well. Look who got left all alone with just Dommie Mommie on the track. Yep, that's right. Right, neighbors. Um, Maya is in Japan. Um, she's in her motherland, um, experiencing culture and awesome food and fun. And so, I just decided I think it's just gonna be me this week. Oh, hell no. Who is it? Oh, fuck. Hey, girl! Oh! Wow. Wow, look at that. Look who it is. Our dearest and beloved Sav Meers. Love and miss you. Also, shout out Flora et al. The cookies. Shout out, Laura. Um, funny- Shout out, Laura. If you guys live in LA, you guys gotta go get their cookies. And shout out, Lauren, for bringing the- We don't have the Lauren cam, but Lauren is doing our media share today. So, anything we have her, like, look up, shout out. Thank you. And this is the diva who made us- Thank you. Which we'll be bringing that to Coachella this year. Of course. Um, so yeah, that's just, like, what we have happening. But anyways, Laura, who runs Flora et al., she and I used to work together at Nordstrom. And she's, like, doing cool and amazing things. Black-owned business. Go support. Blasian sister, actually. Go support. Um, speaking of Blasia, we have Sav here. Hey, girl! Hey. How do you feel? My dearest Savanna. Do you guys want to know the backstory behind why I call Savanna that? I call Savanna my dearest Savanna because, well, one time, remember who you were emailing with? Yeah. She was, like, emailing with an A-list celebrity. Sorry, I forgot. Yes. 'Cause you be knowing A-list celebrities. Yeah, just, like, casually and stuff. Yeah. No, it was for work. And, um, they emailed her back, my dearest Savanna. I forgot that I totally, like, did not remember that. Like, my dearest comes from you to me. Wow. They really used to call that. Call me that. No. That's what I'm saying. And also, the person that it is is gaggy as hell. That's so sweet. Aw. Hope they're well. Hope they're well. You know who you are. And you definitely watch this podcast. Wait. Come on. Come through. I have some questions for you. Right. Um. But, yeah. So, this is gonna be awesome because we have so much to talk about. So much to discuss, of course. Yes. And if you guys don't know, Sav and I's lore essential. Yes. We've been best friends since, like, what? 2018? Yeah. Yeah. Which is crazy as hell. Sounds about right. Yeah. 'Cause I moved here in 2018 and we went to church together. El Mefeo. Mm-hmm. Right. Right. And I didn't, like, I knew you from afar and I was like, "She's so cool." And then you commented on my shoes once. Yes. And, like, I just felt so seen. I was like, "Wow. She, like, knows the shoes I'm wearing." They were, like, random. Yeah. I was like, "I'm gonna go get them." I was like, "I'm gonna go get them." I was like, "I'm gonna go get them." No. They were cool. Adidas collaboration. Yeah. They were, like, Alexander Wang. And then we had a mutual friend and she invited me on your, like, birthday trip. Mm-hmm. And I was like, "We're not really close like that." She was like, "No. Come on. It'll be fine." And look at us now. And that's so crazy 'cause, like, that was really the start of us just locking in so crazy. Mm-hmm. And back in the dizzay. I remember the first time we hung out and I was like, "I'm gonna go get my shoes." I was like, "I'm gonna go get my shoes. I'm gonna go get my shoes. I'm gonna go get my shoes." Really? Yeah. Well, like, one-on-one. Remember, guys? We used to be so Christian Girl Autumn. Y'all don't even know. But it was literally, like, the first day or the first week of the new year. And I was like-- I remember that. And I was like, "Let's go to Malibu and pray." Yes. And pray. And I had some sense to repent. Yeah. And I was like, "I'm gonna go get my shoes." And I was like, "I'm gonna go get my shoes." And I was like, "Let's go to Malibu and pray." And I was like, "Let's go to Malibu and pray." Yes. And pray. And I had some sense to repent for. And I was like, "Let's go to Malibu and pray." And I was like, "Let's go to Malibu and pray." And I was like, "Let's go to Malibu and pray." like what you guys were talking about with tanner like how he was saying like yeah just that presence of like and you were like there's always someone watching yeah it's so accurate no that's what they teach you is happening so no and we went to like the scam of all fucking scam churches like genuinely they're just fucking scam artists and like honestly maybe one day there'll be a documentary and if not just know that we have the mft and like maybe one day we'll unload the clip and maybe today's the day just waiting for the nda to expire you know is there an nda you signed no but did you no you know what's so funny so we went i went to this like leadership college situation i've talked about it before but like one of the so there is like a couple similar like churches who are doing like similar things and like pairing up with universities to like do the same thing where you'd like take classes like college classes online and then like intern at the church so slavery literally fucking free labor i'm not kidding like working 12 hour days like it was like insanity but the thing that had me like weak as hell was one of the colleges that was like more poppin than our college they made them sign ndas and i remember there was one year where they talked about making us sign them but they didn't they didn't huh yeah i know like the people on staff did because like i have a friend that was on that you know was on staff and is now free but no i never signed one and also i'm just like i think it's so interesting that like yeah they were trying to have us do all that like girl you know you're dead wrong why is the church having you sign an nda that part you're dead wrong anyways i'm sure you guys can put two and two together if you scroll down far enough um wicked witch right um well yeah and now we're just like bestest of friends yeah thank god thank god for that really dark time because no i wouldn't have you and like a lot of other friends i made because of it yeah it's so crazy and yeah that's the other crazy part i feel like we met met like so many of our like bestest friends in the whole entire world through that and now none of them are christian yeah besides maybe like actually not one maybe one two but in a different way yeah released from the shackles indeed yeah and there's only it's so funny too because like all the couples that were christian girl autumn that i like looked up to so much there's only one couple i still respect i was just like talking about that with a friend who she's like still in the church scene but didn't have the same experience like didn't go to a celebrity like cultural front-facing church but i was telling her like i there in my life i was like thinking of the couples that i knew and i was like there was only one that i really was like that would be like the dream relationship and then like found some tea out and i was like no actually like no one's perfect obviously like just to put that out there but like you know you have people you like aspire to be like like in the context of maybe work personal life relationship whatever just like mentors or people that like just inspire you and like you know just whatever you people you look to like when you're young and you're trying to like figure shit out there's always like people you're looking to and like aspiring to and stuff so it really i feel like in the later days when we were like finding shit out about like the inner workings of what was actually happening was literally giving like oh my days right and i still find out more shit and i'm like whoa one day y'all will y'all will be whatever yeah yeah i just feel like god's plan in church and culture whatever there's like anytime you put someone or something on a pedestal like it's going to no one's perfect like we're human like you know there's flaws we all inherently have and i don't can't i don't know it's it's a hard position to be be in and put people on a pedestal and then like they're gonna fail you yeah so and the funniest part too is that they swear up and down if you were to go up on to them and be like do you consider yourself up on a pedestal they'll say no no of course not looking down on you like this like of course not no literally like you can't even talk to them yeah oh my gosh yeah i was like looking through my text messages and i was like seeing because i used to run social for this church that's like how honestly how social media and stuff which is like funny as fuck but i was like looking through an old text guys tell me how demented this shit is genuinely so we're not going to talk about church the whole time but like i just like anytime i get what's up i'm like wait remember where we came from remember when we were all in school remember when we were all in fucking school so gag on this people tell me why i literally okay so when i went to school i wanted to go to church and i went to be a youth pastor and then quickly I realized that like all the like the youth don't live like yeah some kids do live like in the city but a lot of them live like not like OC El Segundo like just it's not like where we were like in the city like you know what I mean like in you know like Hollywood proper and like adjacent to that it was just like there's not a lot of kids so quickly I was like pivot because we had like a really big like young adult culture happening because obviously a lot of young people went to our church so I was like well what am I going to do I wanted to go here for youth and now that's like not really a thing so then I was like my college director was like you're not doing enough okay well I was doing a lot at the time he was like you could do more um so I think you should be in charge of social media and I was like okay social media and run everyone's social accounts so I literally ran the pastor the pastor's wife our church social account our we had like this conference we do every year the conference account and our college account five accounts and I would have to make all the graphics so I was also doing graphic design didn't mind you what graphic design school what what graphic design do you know how to do graphic design oh okay awesome now this is the part that's gonna make you LMFAO like ruffle fucking copter because bitch when I think about it I'm like whoa oh oh wow oh wow edge bowling no edge bowl as fuck tell me the fuck why so this is like my first week and I'm finally getting the reins of like I'm running a team and like I'm like finally getting like the reins on graphic design and like getting a pulse for like the tea and so my college director is like hey Dom so the pastor wants you to film him like bro you're a fucking pastor not a reality tv star even though they wish they were reality tv stars yeah well yes maybe they've had a taste in reality tv and they just want that to be their fucking reality so dead ass he was like so the pastor wants you to meet him as he's getting out of his car and you'll film him getting out he'll do this whole intro thing and then you're gonna edit a video to post on his story mind you he shows me an example of what the video is like when I tell you delusions of grandeur I've never I edited one video on like premiere pro it dead ass took me a whole day second I was like not like bitch there was no cap cut bitch there was like this was like no that like wasn't there back in the disay so I'm like this is some shit that you would have to upload into premiere pro bust down on and then like send up he wanted me to have this done I had like 20 minutes to get it done didn't even know how to work the camera that we're using okay pull up film the whole thing and that took hella time so now I'm left I'm down to 10 minutes to have this video up on his story I'm freaking the fuck out I'm literally having a panic attack because I'm like I'm not gonna be able to do this like what am I gonna do shout out this kid I went to school with you know who you are you're a legend to this day in my books he dead ass was like honestly Dom like let me I'll just do it and so but he told me this app to download shout out in shot in shot before cap cut because in shot was there for me when cap cut wasn't and dead ass he was like download this app though it'll like show you how to like edit videos and shit he edits the video I send it in but like churches already started like it's like honestly it took as long as it I don't know he did it fast as fuck but still it was like 15 minutes into service send it in post it and he literally the pastor doesn't say thank you he doesn't say wow this looks like a good idea I don't know I don't know I don't know it looks amazing he didn't say oh my gosh you did a great job he dead ass says way too late exclamation point all caps a text to you directly to me to me and our college director like in a group chat and then my college director dead ass goes yeah Dom we got to speed it up oh you're a bitch too you're a bitch too like how about teach me the ropes how about I literally don't know what the fuck to do I literally had a panic attack upstairs over what bitch over a story over a story oh that in reality was not timely at all not timely at all also do you think that's you posting that story would get more people into church no you posted that story so you could be like the other bitch ass pastors right who are also fucking scam artists your heart no literally cough motherfucking cough that the drew ski skit bitch you want to be like fucking what's his face Mike Todd girl yeah yeah you want to be him so motherfucking bad but couldn't but can't oh oh one day I'll just unload the clip yeah we will we have like the doc name and everything too no literally the other thing that I was thinking about this is when like preachers and sneakers was like so big and I'll never forget this because I was so guys brainwashed as fuck of course like and what's so crazy is I was like people think I'm brainwashed I'm not that's what brainwashed people say you see dude dead ass and that's the craziest part of being brainwashed I'm not that's what brainwashed people say you see dude dead ass and that's the real is I literally I was like oh my god oh my god like I had no fucking idea it's so fucking crazy and now looking back I'm like holy shit holy shit they could they had me with the Kool-Aid bitch making the Kool-Aid right not even drinking it bitch making it like it was so bad we were the Kool-Aid we were the Kool-Aid man bad oh yeah oh yeah like oh yeah oh yeah but dead ass bro I'll never forget this shit I'm not gonna forget this shit I'm not gonna forget this shit I'm not gonna forget this shit I'm not gonna forget this shit I'm not gonna forget this shit Preachers and Sneakers was this account that I think like John I don't know it was like I saw it because John Mayer like posted it and he's like this is fucking hilarious and it would show the like shoes that pastors are wearing and then it would like show them like you know like price tag yeah the retail and then it started doing their full outfits because then there was like head to toe Dior Dior or whatever yeah I hate Mondays King's Hawaiian cinnamon swirl bite Taylor Hansen sure I'll try one mmm hey let's get back to work please but Taylor Hansen's making my day way better with these new soft and swirly King's Hawaiian cinnamon bites Taylor Hansen nice try one mmm King's Hawaiian cinnamon bites there's nothing like it shout out um and so I was like no those are gifted they know they use their own money for those shoes which okay which is there a difference yeah well anyways anyways I'll unload that more on that more on that at fucking 11 honestly and maybe like in 30 because bitch IDK tell me why the fuck so it was like a conference we were having and this is when the off-white shoes were like fucking huge like off-white shoes were like everyone was dying to get their hands on a pair or whatever and they came out with the off-white blazers I was gonna say the blazers with the orange yes so if you couldn't get your hands on the blade like the off-white blazers you're just trying to get a pair of blazers period so like I was like okay like whatever Nike blazers period and I'm at conference this conference that I'm doing it was like my first one I'm just like the fucking run around girl I'm just like the Aaron bitch I'm just like you know what I mean like they just have me fucking like doing shit so um I'm just like the Aaron bitch I'm just like you know what I mean this girl text me and she was like the pastor's assistant she was like hey girl can you like get these shoes and I yeah so they wanted me to get the shoes and I was like okay yeah you could probably get them here so I go to undefeated buy the shoes out of is two pairs of shoes out of my own money like I use my own money to buy these shoes because they're like we'll just reimburse you like whatever and I was just like okay and I think it came out to like 200 250 something like that I don't know but I mean like to to that might not sound significant but as to someone who is actually living off of 700 for like the whole month after I paid rent yeah it probably like makes like a huge difference yeah like actually like when you live in Los Angeles and everything is so fucking expensive 200 actually like makes or breaks like your whole fucking month like getting a parking ticket would genuinely ruin my life in college well that's just crazy that yeah that's crazy that that that you one you had to do that in the first place and two that you had your own card because yeah that uh reimbursement's not hitting for at least what 30 days well so I thought like dead ass this pastor was gonna like dap me up and like slide me too and I'd be like oh thanks g nah you know what fucking happened guess who I got reimbursed by the church the church literally wrote me a check and reimbursed me um and then you got a text that said way too late way too motherfucking late and then you got a text that said way too late way too motherfucking late and you know what those shoes ended up getting stolen he left them in the shower and so he like lost him within 24 hours yes because we would do the conference at the Wiltern and so I guess like in the green room there's like a shower back there and he left them in there and the next day they were gone dumbass so there you go karma is a bitch you should have known better so anyways those are just like a few stories of like why is the church and I remember my like stomach like pit in my stomach because I was just like, well, maybe he like reimbursed the church that right you're trying to find grasping for a solution like literally grasping as straws to explain as to why the church is paying me for a pair of shoes that like i bought this pastor yeah but then come to find out like it was just all the same and like his money the church is it's just all the same shit so it doesn't even fucking matter whatever it's such a scam churches to pay taxes that's the real motherfucking tea churches should pay fucking taxes many loopholes are found yeah in the church no it's so crazy i'm like but yeah but yeah so anyways awesome so that was awesome really awesome uh what about speaking of scams oh wait yeah no speaking of scams yeah dom you watched the america's next top model reality check documentary i did as well yeah yes because guys we were at georgia tech shout out gt i don't know if that's what they call y'all but like i call y'all that so like shout out gt um guys also can we talk about how we went into psychosis hattie bees well hattie bees first off shout out hattie bees except like i did go into psychosis after like eating that yeah um and yeah but the peach cobbler was like smacking like bust down yeah that shit was fucking that was so good um dude no we went into psychosis because night one sal was like dude there was this alarm going off like someone's alarm was going off and i didn't hear it yeah the the first night like there i wake up at 4 a.m yeah not by my own doing but there is a noise there is a noise happening it's not like birds outside or the trash truck it's like it's consistent it's a song a song is being sung and i'm like that's it's not music to my ears actually it's driving me fucking crazy so i'm next to and dom and maya didn't hear it they didn't wake up so i was just like trying to be quiet i unplugged the like alarm clock that was there i unplugged they had a speaker plugged in i thought maybe it was the phone so i picked up the phone and was like i felt like tom sandoval in traitors i was like me mama like with the baby with the phone to my ear i was like what is happening so couldn't unplug the phone and then i don't know i'm half a sleep so like 30 minutes pass it's still happening and my brain finally comes to the realization this is coming from next door it's got to be like their phone alarm or whatever alarm right on the other side of this wall by 5 a.m it stops whatever we move on we live our day whatever so then the next night the night after the show we're leaving the next morning like hella early like hella like dead ass we have to be at the airport at like our uber's picking us up at like what 5 30 5 45 so we're all like tucked in bed as fuck then at 4 a.m i literally start hearing this like yeah it's like a noise but at first have you ever heard like an airpod case it like chirp yeah it like chirp so at first i was like maya always leaves well and it was chirping before yeah or 4 a.m and it was chirping before so i was like oh like my airpod case and then i was like no like dead ass like what's up and then i was gonna go like over to her bed and then at that because at that point it had probably been like 20 minutes of me listening to some sort of fucking noise and anytime i would try and fall asleep it would be like in my dream i like i was like making me fucking crazy so then sav like moved and i was like okay baby she's awake and i was like i was like do you hear that well and what's so funny is literally as i was falling asleep like when i was like you know like waking up i was like guys do you hear that and no one responded so they were and i was like okay like never never fucking mind and then when you were like yes bro and you then you were like unplugging shit like looking and then maya woke up that's when you know it was loud that's when you know like shit was fucked up because maya will literally sleep through actually anything and yeah that sent the fuck out of me and we were just like wide awake as hell from the hours of like four to five yeah before our flight and i went into psychosis for the rest of the day it was yeah that was that was the first time i was like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm crazy i don't think i've yet i haven't recovered yet no i'm that lack of sleep no it was just yesterday night mind you or the night before last but but it's also the time change too yeah the time change but on that note of wrapping that in a bow the maya was like we should like call the front desk but the phone wasn't even working and it's not because i tried to unplug it it didn't work before and then i was like maybe i'll just call the hotel like from you know the number on google maps or whatever and and see what's t but then i just started like banging on the door on the wall that was what sent the fuck out of me was that literally like this like banging on the fucking door to like wake him up and i'm like yeah mama like honestly if that alarm and i'm like i hope it was for nothing important genuinely well apparently you're getting up if you were meaning to get up at 4 a.m every day but what yeah i don't know but i'm like what alarm goes for an hour well and here's the thing i used to be the person that would set like 20 alarms just to be sure i didn't miss mainly just because i was like the anxiety i it wasn't because i was sleeping through them but then there was a point in time where i had like weird inner ear stuff going on i couldn't hear like out of one of my ears so i would i would like be very paranoid about the alarms and they would often like go on for a very long time before i answer them so i'm trying to like have understanding for the situation but also one if you don't wake up easily to an alarm you you don't need like a beautiful angelic like you need the no literally like a train horn yeah something that like genuinely has your spirit like fucked up yes dude that was me i've i've had a horrible attitude it really started from like like last that night to like i just yeah dude because okay so i like i my sleep when my sleep is fucked up genuinely and i everyone knows this about me it's like genuinely a trait about myself i hate i feel god awful about it but when my sleep is fucked up you will not get a bigger bitch bro you just won't you can't find one you can't find a bigger cunt than me bitch because when my sleep is fucked up that's and that genuinely that alone is the reason why i couldn't have kids because they will see a side of me like you can't like if a baby starts crying can't be like oh like i can't like unload the clip on a baby like i'm literally like no i have to feed you so sleep deprived me is like not tea at fucking all it's important it's important but that like obviously then we got in early to la and i was like okay i'm gonna rest and then i like tried to take a nap but then i couldn't really and then it was like low-key there was like still some work stuff to be done and i was just kind of like so i was just like unsettled for the whole day and then you know we kind of like adapted a little bit to like the time change a bit so once it was like nine i had plans with my girlfriend to go get a hot dog from pinks love which i went for the first time but i was just like first off guys i don't know y'all can shoot me for my pinks order what do you usually get at pinks well you see i've only been there once and we ordered like quite a few things because it was my friend shout out jen she was like making she's like a food blogger so she was making like a video for it so i don't even know i just i almost went recently actually but i was really hoping they'd have a corndog oh they don't you see more places should just have corndog thank you corndog representation that would like make so much money actually especially since there's no sonic like in like la like yes la county like oc or like i don't know glendora or some shit but like not in hollywood no um what'd you get what's your order well so here's the thing because i was like unwell right when i was a kid my dad and i like when we would eat hot dogs sometimes he would add us like if we didn't have hot dog buns he would put a piece of american cheese on like a plain piece of bread for melt it in the microwave and then eat that was the hot dog combo so when i was like looking through i saw for their chili dog they put american cheese so i was like oh you know what i mean like my brain was like american cheese whatever right it fits the mold yes so i was like can i just get a hot dog with american cheese literally what yeah like she was like weak as fuck and i was like okay okay like mind you men you big as fuck so that would be like i must have done an original that must have been like an original ass order and she brings out our order it takes less than two seconds shout out because i was hangry at that point um the cheese is not melted they just dead ass put like slices of american cheese like broken down and then they just put like slices of american cheese like broke them in half and like put them along the bun and then i like tried to like close it for the steam to melt the steam to melt it no it was good as fuck it was good as fuck but like again i just did think they would like you know put a little yeah melted a little on the grill and it was also like freezing cold outside which like once i'm cold and tired it's it's cut it should have been wrap on yeah and like poor my poor angel of a girlfriend was literally trying to be like oh do you like it like this is one of her favorite places in la and i was like yeah like non-verbal like it was was bad and then uh salt and straw has fucking the cereal flavors the cereal flavors which the snap crackle which yeah many of people they're like that's my big one i buy pints of it that's literally okay so that's what my girlfriend said she was like i literally stock up as much as i possibly can it's so fucking good and then our friend gabby yes exactly yes she was like this is like my all-time favorite and i was like that's so crazy i didn't know it was like bust down like that so i all i wanted was that ice cream like it was like the craziest pregnancy craving like can i be pregnant no but like did i like want that more than anything yes we went to salt and straw and i got that and i got the like captain the like berry crunch one the vegan one yes yes y'all let's wake up thank you flavor yes snap crackle snap and crackle marshmallow treat it's so good i tried the peanut butter brownie cereal puffs and that was bomb as shit too see i went yeah and i got the pots of golden rainbows one but i didn't try the snap and crack dude honestly that like that's their big one okay well i'll go back i hate mondays king's hawaiian cinnamon swirl bite taylor hansen sure i'll try one hey let's get back to work please but taylor hansen's making my day way better with these new soft and swirly king's hawaiian cinnamon bites taylor hansen nice try one king's hawaiian cinnamon bites there's nothing like it no i'll go back with you also shout out jenny's ice cream they dead ass sent us like all the bridgerton flavors of like ice cream so jenny's like fuck with you know we're talking about a like we're talking about like ice cream so jenny's like fuck with you know we're talking about a and then we could get the waffle cones to go and then like make it at home and i was like girl fuck you like every answer was the wrong answer dead ass we get there and i literally get the waffle bowl okay girl go to bed like if you're getting the waffle bowl like you need to fucking go to bed so i get the waffle bowl like split scoop and i'm like falling asleep with it like in the car like this like it was so car seat in the back no like in the car seat in the back like it was so bad and then i like laid down and then this morning so first off i don't know why it's windy as shit today but this morning who decided to work out at 6 a.m mama did mama said she wants to work out at 6 a.m no one said mama needs to work out at 6 a.m no one's scheduled to see her trainer at 6 a.m mama did was mama mad as fuck when her alarm went off this morning baby yes like mama was mad as fuck like mama was literally angry as shit and so i like turned over to my girlfriend and i was just like like i was like i don't want to go i don't want to go and like her clap back to me which i'm like thank you honestly normalized like clapping back at someone who's like delusions of grandeur she literally clapped back at me and went no like i every time you do this i don't understand why and i was like yeah yeah i don't understand and then after that i was quiet on set and i was like oh and i sent her a text and i said bookie i'm sorry bookie i'm sorry i was proud of you for going anyways yeah thanks it's just like low-key i fucked up my back like anyone who's like ever had their sciatica nerve literally like act the fuck up i got like cupping done and i will say that did help a lot um and doing extensive like stretching and like you know all the things but i've never had that happen to me before so i couldn't like do much at the gym like i was like pretty limited or like a lot of like machines and stuff and so there was this girl who was happy as shit like she low-key be like dancing and shit at the gym and everything and she's just like really happy to be there and then i looked at her and i was like bro i need to have an attitude of gratitude yeah you know what i mean yeah it is all perspective really it is all perspective because i was like i just remember like a week and a half ago i was like i would do anything to like be able to do that and now i can do that but just that success a.m like my god so then after that i've just been like trying to remain grateful and gratitude in all scenarios which is like i went to the dentist today and they like did a deep cleaning on my teeth because guys one thing i like didn't know was that like you just like need dental insurance like it's separate from like health insurance and so for like the past like three years when i turned 26 two three years i haven't had dental i just like keep every time it would like be time to renew i would just like forget so i hadn't been to the dentist in like i don't know two years three years which is bad right but i like floss every day brush my teeth you know like my routine is like so i was like oh i'm chilling and then they were like going through my shit and they're like oh we need to like do a deep cleaning and i was like oh okay awesome so they like did definitely do that and i have to she was like and i had one this cavity will be giving like root canal if we like don't take it out soon and i was like well thank god i came i came as soon as i heard like did they fill it no they're gonna they were gonna try and fill it today but i was like no time i see so i'm gonna go in like a couple weeks so yeah well i need to go to the dentist i don't have dental insurance but you still can go to the dentist without it's just a little more pricey well because all the shit that i was supposed to do today was like gonna be like eight hundred dollars and i was like oh my god i need to go to and with my dental insurance it was zero like i didn't pay oh wow then that's worth it that's what i'm saying for fifty dollars a month or whatever i pay i mean like i know that's not like cheapest or anything but i'm like compared to eight hundred dollars and i honestly thought it was going to be more expensive yeah but i'm like they did so much to my teeth today well they look great guys do my teeth look great well and also i'm like i don't know they just be car car dealer and i'm like i'm so like oh you can do that oh you can like oh my god there is one place i keep getting like promoted um on instagram and it's like uh it's in la but they like do teeth whitening and they do the whole bus down bundaloo it is really pricey but i'm like wow they really brighten the that smile yeah and i'm i'm feeling sold no and this place does it too and i don't know i like that they weren't pushy they're like this is all just like you know if that would make you feel better about because they also do like cosmetic stuff gotcha she's like a cosmetic dentist so of course they're literally like you want to be like slayed and i was like right yes i want to be like do you want us to close your gap or no literally yeah so shut out like dentists and shit oh my god speaking of that was tying it back to the to the america's next top model documentary guys raise your hand if you watch that and if you haven't please go watch it like unload the clip so like spoilers ahead regardless of the spoilers or anything we talk about you should like all watch it and i guess there's going to be an even more bust down one on e-news or like hulu or some shit like that i don't fucking know hulu hulu shut up um girl that shit was crazy nuts right like and i like didn't grow up watching that show just because like i didn't but my roommates in college would always watch it like they would literally always watch the show like just reruns of it and i literally had to have a rule with them where i'm like you guys can't play that when i'm in the kitchen or in like the living room area because it was so insanely offensive yeah and one of my roommates was just like girl yeah it used to be even crazier how and then you see yeah yeah like i was just like oh my days but when we were like running through this shit i'm like damn that's so fucking yeah and like justice for shandy i know dude yeah i did grow up watching it like i watched it with my mom and sister and like yeah i feel like sure part of it is yes the early 2000s different time reality tv was also like unhinged unleashed like they literally would get people on american idol to make fun of them like they don't do that kind of thing anymore but yeah so i get that the time is was different but still it's like so many things like yeah they it doesn't mean that they weren't okay like they were okay you know so well just even like the way i mean genuinely i think like that time in general was like such a crazy time to like grow up and like i mean i could not imagine being like an actualized adult and like or even like college age or high school age because i was like straight up a kid when all of that was happening and i mean like even like even just as a kid like having the experience of like growing up and like growing up and like during that time in the early 2000s when like. oh my god just like it really would like warp your mind in such a scary fucking scary crazy way and like even now i like think that's why it's so important to like diversify period but like diversify bodies as well because i was like saying i'm like i think like someone's build you know if you have someone who's just like really like has like if you literally were to take their shoulders and like see their build like it's just small frame and then someone with like a larger frame like standing next to them like even even if they're like you know whatever like in the mind in the eyes of the law healthy bodies then like you would just it would still even like you know what i mean and i just feel like it's just so important to see like health at different sizes and stuff because it just does exist in different sizes like it's it's been proven time and time again and there's people who will like fucking waste your time and tell you like you know what i mean yeah and i feel like i'm just really thankful that like i don't know when i had this like i mean probably like in high school like my like junior year i just remember this is like probably so random but i remember like my friend we were like trying on clothes and she was wearing like a top that was backless and i had so much back knee at the time and i just and like even if all the back knee was gone i would still have scarring because like i just had so much back knee growing up and i just remember thinking like my back's never gonna look like that and that's okay and i was just like a moment that really like set myself free but i'm like i couldn't imagine like i don't know i feel like also by then too like 2015 2014 it wasn't good by any means like obviously tumblr was doing their big one at the time but i think on the other spectrum like there was people who were like you know starting to be more outspoken and like the idea of like you know whatever and now it's like really awesome because you have so many people if you go if you want to go and find it you have so many people who will like teach you how to be so neutral about your body which is really nice but and it is really such a trap too because like i don't know i don't know if i'm gonna be able to do it but i'm gonna i don't know like when i was like growing up like i like well first off i got my period in fourth grade so there you go that that really like set shit up in such a crazy way um but that's like so young to be getting your period and like my body changed so fast too and like i think like just experiencing puberty like faster than you know some people don't get their period to like high school or like middle school or like whatever you know what i mean yeah and to experience that so young and like just already like i just have never been super small and like it's you know like i think now especially now that i'm like my own adult and like my own person and like just you know whatever i mean like i think too a part of me is just always accepted that like i just won't look like that and like that's okay and like you know there's fucking hateful ass people out there who want to be like but they'll never be this and like this is what a real supermodel looks like and this is shut the fuck up okay yes we can acknowledge that like some people who are just so like you know like yes their looks the features like they look amazing and like the idea of like what a model is you know what i mean but like i think that's what's so cool about like you know the day and age and tyra fucking delusional ass thinks that she's the reason why she was like breaking so many boundaries but that's what i mean that's so sad about that documentary was like her mindset genuinely though such a mature like immature like it was such an immature idea not immature idea what's it wasn't the idea wasn't like all the way thought out like it was still in its very very early days of like the concept and i think if she like really like fleshed it out but obviously that's not what they were doing back in the day they were like you have an idea i have an idea for you like there were so many like shows like that that were just so fucked up like that and i would watch all of them but i remember chloe kardashian had like a transformation show yeah and she'd be like we'll help you lose weight this that and then after that who do you want revenge body revenge body thank you yeah it was like freaking chloe kardashian revenge body but um that was just like the vibes of like and i was like i want to go on revenge body literally fucking 15 okay who do you need revenge for um well maybe many people who knows no like revenge body yeah being chloe that wasn't that was like more recent too i want to say yeah that was like in the in the last yeah it's that 10 years i don't know not that that's that recent yeah 2017 yeah no i'll like never forget that yeah i was like okay revenge body right that's wild that's so crazy then i remember the first episode was like a guy and he was like i want to get back with like my ex-wife or something like that and i like that and then he like yeah i lost a bunch of weight and they did it fast too so they're all about speed these days you see that's what i was thinking about love is blind oh yeah to me hey from what i have witnessed in that show love is not blind but why are we doing it in like 20 days like what if love is blind over the course of a year yeah well they don't have time they don't have time for they don't have time like tlc has time because when i tell you tlc has actually has all the damn time in the world i don't have time for that i don't have time for that i don't have damn world um because we saw them when we went to georgia like the headquarters oh yes and i'm just like dude they will follow like even my 600 pound life they like follow someone over the course of a year and it's very like documentary style and stuff yeah and even like um 90 day fiance they follow them for dead ass 90 days yes so it's just like honestly if love is blind wants to like like let's just extend it yeah and also just not too much on that before maya discusses it with us but well i i guess yeah i guess it's like hard though because like some people like you know i guess some people could take a week off but how many people could take like two but even maybe they're working maybe we're okay we're back in normal life let's get back into actual normal life and let's wait a few months okay maybe love is not blind but maybe it will become blind or maybe it's just still not blind i don't know what i think that show needs to be called is for what it is because i feel rage baited every time i watch it because i'm like love clearly is not blind you're torturing these people like some of these people really do believe it and granted it works for some people and i wish everyone the best everyone deserves love if they want it you can find love outside a relationship but if you want it in a relationship you deserve that but let's call it what it is not love is blind blind spots because these people have blind spots they're blind to many things and in this wedding episode we're not going to say too much on it right now but man i was like i could have told you this is where it was going the whole time and one of the girls really i like got really emotional hearing her the girl that was with the guy that looks like gibby oh yeah the guys looks like my dog just like he i don't know he just does yeah i forget it davante davante davante like gibby but he thinks he thinks his name is davante it's davante right but that and he also thinks he's not black so that's awkward just speaking like she just wants to be married so badly and that desire is so deep and like i don't know i just felt like it almost felt like how they're playing with people's time back in the day of america's next top model like it wasn't about actually being america's next top model it was about like good tv that's kind of how it felt sometimes i mean anytime with reality tv i think that like always the producers are going to find a storyline yeah and like really like play to it whether or not it's true or not whether or not they're like emphasizing something that's actually which we saw like in the documentary with like shandy's story specifically like they painted it one way right like in reality it's not what happened this whole other really fucking disgusting dark like exploitation thing happening and i feel like with this you know with britney and davante thank you i just think that like she who knows what he's saying you know behind closed doors i think in her mind she genuinely thinks because he's like he's fake as fuck bro like he plays one way in front of people but then like to her he acts like so cold so yeah whatever and just like super you know his energy super avoidant and like so uninterested but then i'm like well clearly you know i don't know like what he's telling her and i don't know what he's telling her and i don't know what he's telling her also but i'm just like he's so fucking weird he's just a weirdo dude and then as she like in that this most recent conversation too like you can see her interpreting it a way that she wants the result to be marriage so she's interpreting him saying one thing and he's not even meaning that like he's not like i want to stay with you but the thing is though i will say he's never been up front with her one time yeah and that's the thing is i feel like i don't know what the fuck it is i feel like he's almost like doing so much stuff and i feel like he's doing so much stuff to like try and make her break up with him or make yeah hurt him seem like oh i'm not the one for you but i'm like like if that's the case then just do that just say that just act that way because i really do think it's so fucking weird that like literally in that moment he should have just because he said it to us he said in his exit interview he was like well it's a red flag why'd she have a wedding dress already and it's all this shit sorry i don't spoiler spoiler not too much but spoiler yeah and um in that moment if you wanted to be a stand-up fucking guy he should have literally just been like say it to her face yeah there's some flags or there's some things that i've been saying that like personally it doesn't align with me secondary i don't know if i'm ready to get married i don't know if like you're the person i want to be married to and like i'm just letting you know that like i have to be honest with that and like go with god and like whatever because these people love god so much so i'm just like to me i'm like that would be the plan of attack not yeah i always respect the like honest conversations and like we did get some of that too it's just like up front like yeah i can't say yes because of this and i don't want to put you in that position either like right like you're standing by your truth you were never like i don't know obviously yeah like emma and that one guy yes like i feel like talking about yeah like yeah constantly we're talking about like how they felt about like kids and stuff yeah emma and whatever his name is oh um oh those are the uk hosts emma and thank you yes him mike mike yeah i feel like their communication was like they were pretty clear yeah they were so like honest and open and like i respect that shit but i'm just like there were so many like alex he's a scam artist bro that that i'm like you that he sounded worse than troy bolton like everything was a fucking song about him and he was like i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know like you have to move on my guy like and even if that's a big part of your life let's compare every single life situation to being a goalie and being in the goal hey i'm all for sports metaphors i get it i love sports but i don't know he just was like yeah it's like game day big game day it's like the warm-up oh it's like the walkout oh this is just like okay well just we obviously know you have no other life experience no literally like if genuinely the only thing you can compare everything in life to is like soccer you weren't gonna make it and also the fact that he is like obviously i have to go to this place because that's where ronaldo's from i hate mondays king's hawaiian cinnamon swirl bite taylor hansen sure i'll try one hey let's get back to work please but taylor hansen's making my day way better with these new soft and swirly king's hawaiian cinnamon bites taylor hansen nice try one you I love your passion i love your passion for the sport for the game i really do but if every single conversation with my partner tied back to his like long lost like career as an athlete at some point you just have to say move on move on and also like get help like oh my god genuinely because i'm not i'm not lying like you know i think even in challengers you know the way that it was portrayed to us is like zendaya rising tennis star yes and then for her to like you know get fucking injured and then she can't play anymore but look she's a fucking coach now and like all the things and all the shits whatever and she's as close to the game as she can be but like i don't know i felt like even just the portrayal of what i've seen because i haven't experienced it but even like you know when i hurt my back right when i like my sciatica nerve like started acting like flaring up and i was like low-key like depressed for like you know a week because i was like it really like changed up my um routine and stuff like that but and i think that's like pretty normal so i couldn't you know if my like life and job was supposed to be like this one thing and like i was banking on nothing else yeah that would be pretty fucking life-altering of course and like i also understand like how dark and like damaging and how like the aftermath of that could be but i'm also like there's like resources out there that could like help you at the grown age of like 30 something to like not be like that anymore you know what i mean like if you really are struggling that bad like there's resources and shit and like i don't know it's just he has so such a crazy ego it's like fucking scary he was that was scary to watch yeah but like oh yeah so you know like when he once he brought up ronaldo like i know his dms are literally happy birthday happy birthday ronaldo yeah and then what'd he say about fucking um who's like another famous soccer player married to the spice me looking at zach david becca david becca we have a soccer specialist he does not we do have a soccer specialist shout out zach he did i said david beckham's not even that good true or false is he good or not not really uh he's pretty good yeah i mean he kind of retired a little like he settled down earlier yeah right but like he was good in his prime but he was good in his prime and like you know what i mean and i'm like obviously he's like he's a house house name and what's her face brought him up because of the relevancy like oh she he he's culturally relevant like people know him that didn't ever watch him on play soccer yes like i know who david beckham is and i know about the beckhams like you know but when everything becomes reason to be like you know should have been me should have been me dude get help he literally said the worst part like was when his friends like went out to play soccer like the worst thing to ever happen to him was like his friends went out to play soccer when his name was getting called and it was like him like dead ass like almost crying i was like oh hell no like i was there too in sixth grade no in sixth grade bro he's dead ass like the kid who like you know his girlfriend cheated on him in seventh grade when she was on like family vacation yeah and he's just like never recovered he hasn't that's the yes get help it's all everything has a reason everything comes from a place and it i it is so much like unhealed childhood trauma not to like assign that to him like heal your heal your inner yes yes so bro he's yeah he's cooked his i'm sure the reunion's gonna be tea dude well it looked crazy i saw the preview yeah and well maya will be back by then yeah so we will have seen the reunion but we can discuss traitors guys if you're interested maya i know you didn't watch it so if you're listening to this which you probably are probably hey girl um guys and if you haven't seen traitors but want to watch the season which you should it's actually like really good and as someone who is desperate desperate to be in the game i'm not gonna give all my little tips and tricks now right no but i'm not gonna get my girl on the show get my girl on the show guys when i'm on the show because i will be on the show whether it's somewhat soon which i think it will be or and manifesting it will be or later on in a developed more different career path that like led me to be able to get on traitors hey listen however i can get on i'll get on but um i always like the strategy everyone's strategies are like so interesting and this season in particular like rob's strategy was like in fucking sane yeah and like here's the thing i know a lot of well first off i'm disclaimer the biggest disclaimer before everyone is like really mad when you play traitors okay it's a it's a game same as survivor same as like this and yes money is involved and i do understand that at the same time it is quite literally a game okay and like we did very some well actually i don't know when the video will be out maybe it'll be out by the time we film this i don't know but we played traitors with well noelle was like the host and we played with like the other tmg podcast and some other games and the way that like you're you have to come with strategy like you have to have some sort of game plan some sort of something that's gonna like move your game forward you know what i mean and um his was like genuinely so brilliant and like i feel like going on that show and being successful at it is like it's big shit you know what i mean you have to be like really fucking smart and there's like survivor people big brother people like people who are playing games where you need like big strategy and i haven't watched big brother so actually i can't like speak to it but anytime someone from big brother comes on they're like that's a gamer yeah yeah and obviously survivor i mean i've seen some episodes and i'm like you have to be tough as shit period that's what i was like trying to think like okay yeah i i have like big survivor fan watched like every season but people show come up come to that game granted it's been existed long than traitors but there's like huge strategy involved you show up ready to play and if you are not having a good strategy you're gonna go home you know and like yes there have been certain instances where like disloyalty was like huge and like certain instances i will not excuse it for i don't care if you were playing a game that was spiteful yeah like i can explain that another time but like there was one instance this guy charlie he had his locked in partner maria and she made it to the jury and like out of spite did not vote for him to win which was just like that did not even that wasn't affecting you you're on the jury like you're not gonna win yeah so yeah other moments yes you have to like kind of lie and backstab whatever but people show up to do that and with traders okay another another thing survivors like prize pots a million dollars like traders is not that but some people show up i feel like because they choose celebrities some people are like this is my pr you know maybe this is good for my brand i think i think especially celebrity traders where it's celebrities right because i haven't watched the like uk yeah one well because the uk it's like they do use their like own celebrities because i think they do yeah celebrity traders and then regular um it's just like i think when it comes to like this this trader celebrity traders and people have like you know whatever their backstory or whatever whether you know it or not and you don't know who's going to be on the show until like you get there and stuff but i'm just like i'm sorry he ate it's still a game it's still a game and to be a trader is just the hardest job ever because to be a faithful it's like the hard part is staying alive and like figuring it's like staying alive and figuring out who it could be and it's just like yeah not coming off as too much of a threat to not come home but like yeah yeah like you have to really play to the middle and that's really fucking hard to do or essentially be so good at the challenges that you're like indispensable those are like your two options and rob honestly where he ate because i always use dylan efron as like i think he played one of the best faithful games ever fucking period like he was such a like insane faithful like he was like hunt a bitch down and that's why so many people fucking finished with them because he was like hunting people down for real and um i feel like rob played like dylan efron where he really convinced everyone he was so fucking faithful yeah so this so that and then really was so fucking smart i mean like the whole eric thing listen listen listen listen eric my shayla i think rob chose eric for a multitude of reasons and i don't like i'm rob like i don't fucking know so like not too much on me but like i think specifically when it comes to eric and like him being really hurt about rob i can like understand that but to a degree my shayla and that is why when if you ever i don't know when the tmg video is going to be out but if you see one the first round i'm a faithful second round i'm a traitor and my traitor round let's just say my gameplay i'm taking notes not that i want i don't want to be a traitor actually i would like really really love to be a faithful but watching rob season was the first time i had like my gears turning on like what it would take and the strategy it would take to be you know yeah and literally him choosing eric and eric being mute he folded he couldn't handle it he couldn't handle it and i'm just like the best way to be a traitor is to be so fucking like be a faithful and that's what rob said he was like i had the method play a faithful every morning i had to like wake up and be like if i was faithful how would i think who would i suspect yeah and even like bro uh candace the way candace could have won bro she could have won i don't know why what lisa rinna had on her or like what the fucking tea was why she was so goddamn faithful to lisa rinna but then like not faithful to the housewives like you know what i mean like i'm just like girl no be so fucking serious and that is not rule number one rule rule number one is like yes you're faithful to your traitors until your traitor starts playing a fucking bad game yeah and starts pulling you down and risking your yes and i'm like lisa rinna day one my shayla lisa i don't know you like that i didn't watch you but like i know your name i know your legacy and i'm just like name day one she got name dropped and like she was not playing a good game i'm sorry my shayla she was not she was not and rob was like and candace were cleaning up her messes to the point where rob was like it's sink or fucking swim and yes you that's when you start either you get behind the campaign or people are going to be looking at you weird as shit yeah and that's what i saw people say or i haven't finished the reunion but maybe it was andy cohen asking eric in the reunion like why did okay after he crossed like crossed like mind you yes i agree i think lisa tanked her own game and then candace did too but like after watching that why did you think rob was gonna like be loyal to you and i'm like i if eric actually was a good traitor rob probably would have voted more out or would have just like surprised more at the end and kept eric but he made that pinky promise because he felt way more loyal to mara mara mara well because at that point bro like yeah like he wasn't doing shit for him like he was mute and people were looking at him and i don't know i'm like i would have split the money i don't know i don't know what i would have done how would have it worked like he kept eric in and then and then they voted to not it like if he kept eric and the game and like rob would have voted green eric would have voted green and mara would have voted red but two to one so the game ends okay the game ends and then they all reveal who i didn't i thought it was everyone had to i don't think so i thought it was everyone had to vote green they know they would have happened was because mara wanted to keep voting then they would have voted and and rob and eric could have voted against okay i see okay my bad we'll see no because i think again mara is the reason why he won and he knows that to be true i'm so sorry i'm way more faithful to mara even though yes she's essentially getting screwed over then to eric because eric yes you were faithful to rob and all the things but i'm like baby you should have played an aggressive ass faithful game but you didn't and then by the time you tried to speak up when it felt safe to no no mama that's the whole point you got your neck got to stick out yeah you have to put names out there you have to like be a little leading or and you need to have protection mama like you can't just be rolling around like no it's either like you need to literally be fucking yoked up fucking natalie where she's like winning the shields fucking dropping people and like doing all the things or you need to be fucking gabby whitney game yeah and literally the kiki of the century mama they ain't gonna kill you right those are your two options but even i i also i don't even see like physical challenge like yes they want to increase the prize pot but i don't see that i didn't see that really mattering to anyone as much like like physical strong physical threats oh no no not physical threats i mean like not threats but sorry i'm using survival like to keep your if you're a game and you're not being the kiki of a century yeah at least be good at the challenge yes you need to be good at the challenges so you can win shields when you talk your shit right you know what i mean yeah because i'm like that's the only thing that i'm like you know and or just play a little a little like oh i could be convinced right yeah there's like a fine line but like you really and if you're someone who's so like anyone who ever ever this is free advice watch the footage back and if you're someone who's so like anyone who ever ever this is free advice anyone who ever is three toes three toes down ten toes down if you're ten toes down on some shit like literally both feet planted down and you're like so sure about shit and you're not someone who's like a shot caller or if you're a shot caller but you're not good at the games you're not winning shields and shit you will be eliminated because you're a threat you're the ultimate threat like yeah mama that's what rob did a good job with too like eliminating threats right away like everyone's like oh my god i'm gonna be eliminated i'm gonna be eliminated i'm gonna be eliminated every time like it's surprising that dylan made it so far in his season because he was like it was because he was so close to boston right and that's why exactly and that's what worked for his game but yeah i guess you really don't know until you get there and see the dynamics of people but i like celebrity traders too i mean this like the normal traders because i think the first season was a mix i think of u.s traders no yeah maybe i don't know what it was like a mix of sari from survivors on the first like third season and there's a mix of people i think they said they might be going back to a mix i think this next season they're casting for is like they're casting the net why yeah because it was like normal people and celebrities but i'm like okay yeah because i'm like it would be hard i think if like well i'm just like i could a blind game of traitors is hard as when you don't know when you don't know anyone and everyone's a stranger and everyone they would have to like help with lore or not or not and i guess just like sniff people out but i'm like that's how survivor is damn except this season it's like legends of the past well that's what they say that's how they casted it at least no like alleged legends yeah well yeah so i don't know i'm like curious to see how this is like gonna go down but i'm like this season was so i mean i was just like because rob played such a fucking good game i was like i want you to win i never want the traders to win ever i mean i did want phaedra to win because i just like loved her on traders yeah um and she played a really i there's i mean uh caroline last season from survivor yeah oh my god she literally she could have won last season too because she was so fucking good yeah but then she fucked up at the end yeah she like she got too paranoid because i'm like that's the thing you have to keep your head like cool so you when you play you'd prefer to be a faithful yes but you'd be a damn good trader i bet yeah i would be a really good fucking trader because i that like little the our mini session i would just have to there was a few strategies i would need to like refine and there's like a few things noelle gave me some good advice that i'm like i would want i would love to play again like you know here or it'd be so fun if we could figure out a way to like play a bigger game of it but like noelle gave me some tips and i was like that honestly i should have but i again was playing too clean and i wasn't willing to go under the bell i see not under the but yeah under the essentially of like there you know i could have like definitely taken it to the next fucking level but i was just like all right okay and i didn't and if i did i would have really really fucking ate down i would have really ate down yeah yeah um but yeah it's it's it's a it's such a fun game and i mean like the people they've been casting have been like really yeah i want more drag race people on though i was gonna say that too yeah i feel like they need to diversify the law a little more yeah like they always only have one drag queen like i'm like bro please can we get more drag race well i'm like i'm sure they'll have an all-star seasons of traders for sure once they get yeah once they get there yeah i mean they're probably getting close they have like four seasons probably you can tap the uk and wherever else they do it all australia australia rosie was telling me australia is really popular canada was really i don't think they do still do canada but the cast for canada everyone's like yeah canada traders canada i need to watch it i'm a sucker for a good game show oh i love traders it's like my favorite because it was the first show that i watched without knowing who everyone was so i like literally went and like like parvati like i didn't obviously i didn't watch survivor but people make like documentaries of their season on legend yeah so all like what i was like watching everyone's lore to like figure out how they play and like why they were so because everyone was like she's a snake don't trust her and she's a flirt yeah and i was like what'd she do and then i saw her season i was like thank you yeah thank you and when she was like i have the idol iconic shit yeah lots of iconic survivor you should like traders isn't this the new season just started the new season just started two weeks ago so easy you could catch up it is all you will be curious because it it's season 50 so they pulled exit like people that have played in the past so you have people from season one you have people from season 49 and yeah like mike white's playing the creator of white someone made a really great youtube video it's like 30 minutes long it's like everybody's like most important on this cast like stuff from the past season oh amazing i need to watch that that's a good that would be a good prequel to it yeah i there's so many people i love and adore on this cast i'm like i'm so stoked about it i love charlie love christian and like yeah christian's awesome camilla watch love camilla wait is that jam jam yeah but oh y'all don't fuck with jam jam no no i do he's just not on playing oh okay oh jam jam ozzy another legend but i guess he hasn't been on anything you've seen yeah there they are there they sari is playing so you'll know her mike white that photo of coaches wait with sari oh season one yeah okay we'll not see of traitors traitors yes yeah and she played survivor quite a few times the charlie like sweet oh to be announced oh well oh from 49 savannah savannah and rizzo guys we need to get sav on traitor or survivors traitors to apply you should but like i'll be missing you horribly like i'd be missing you horribly too and like you just have to go in so at least the most the newest seasons there's so many people just have like deep like moments that of realization because like you know there's no distractions and whatever and like arguably the later seasons exist in a world where there are more distractions such as the internet tv whatever but they're like having like moments you would think would happen in therapy or in like on live tv so i which respect and like glad they're sharing but i would really have to go and very mentally strong i think because that game will break anyone down because you got nothing nothing but the currency of social social currency oh and like you have to be good physically and the challenges too arguably there it's like out with at last outplay so there's like many things happening anyways love it outwit outlast outplay so that's my neighborhood watch survivor season 50 and if you're not familiar with survivor then this 30 minute youtube video that will give you the breakdown of iconic i need to watch okay t because i'm like i live for those i live for like a lore i think you really like it okay maybe maybe i'll start this season because i do miss having like a game show and you know like some of them already too yeah and mike white is is ripped weed he looks great he really put in the work it's what's david versus goliath is that just the season they used to do fucked up seasons with survivor too they divide them by race yeah look at him yeah this is episode one they're like mike yeah mike mike episode one ripped as hell so his first his initial season of survivor they did like basically david's like nerds small scrawny people and then goliath's like that guy behind him like huge strong like and they're like who's who's gonna win and then they would do seasons yeah of like dividing the tribe by their ethnicity and then it was just the reality it was a time yeah so yeah he's looking great love him he's so funny wait period wait uh thank you he's having so much fun did he win his season do you get far yeah oh okay wait word yeah he did good so that's why he's like anthropologist as fuck wait period so your neighborhood watches survivor yeah survivor season 50 and like hamnet like please watch hamnet i was just listening to like a video of or an interview with chloe xiao and she's just such a beautiful human so that was like it's insanely beautiful if you haven't yet i mean the oscars are the weekend well maybe they already happened actually by the time you see this but oh yeah yeah but if not so yeah barbell's choco milk is that your neighborhood watch no my neighborhood watch actually did i say the pit last week i think so but you could say it again guys i just need to let y'all know like the pit right now is gluing me together love what's my neighborhood watch i have a neighborhood watch assignment for you you watched paradise season one right oh yeah the second season of paradise i need to watch it it's pretty good so far i need to watch it how many episodes are out two three three four three four okay i'll watch it um i've been more oh what did i watch what did i watch on the plane it was so fucking good uh one battle after another that was like listen i heard there's discourse and see that's the thing about discourse i'm not saying it's wrong or right i think all discourse is important sometimes i think it's wrong i think it's important to enter with curiosity maybe if that makes sense i'm tiptoeing lightly because i feel like sometimes it like for example wuthering heights i understand why you know it's problematic and like not the best movie and like people are actually like up in arms about it i understand and i'm not saying you're wrong and i honestly agree with you but like sometimes i think it's like nice to watch something without hearing why people hate it so much because it really does like yeah you know and again your perception it it does and then like again with one battle after another i heard there was discourse i don't know what it is yet because i just wanted to watch it like sight unseen um and i really really really liked it that girl his daughter chase infinity oh my god she's a fucking star bro teyana taylor thank you been new thank you been knew she a star been been knew the body t crazy fucking t but it's just every time every time i see her i'm like you was her yeah me uh me uh she's everything um that movie was really good i mean like i'm not like a crazy leo fan like you know i'm not like leo and he's like pretty creepy but i will say as an actor he ate you know he ate he's like brad pitt to me like you know i feel like they're both pretty like problematic and like insane but like just really good fucking actors you know yeah and leo like he's really good in that like i don't know i guess he kind of plays himself a little bit um in the movie probably so it wasn't too much acting but yeah um it was a really good movie and i don't know i would recommend watching it i really liked watching it um sav would you also recommend zootopia too yeah i i watched um started watching zootopia 2 on the plane didn't finish it but love loving it it's so well the message yeah it's woke as hell i have like 40 minutes left is it it's not streaming yet though oh i don't know so like eagerly awaiting eagerly awaiting that ending bro dude zootopia is so fucking woke like zootopia 1 and zootopia 2 that shit's woke as shit um so 11th it'll be on streaming march 11th comes out it's gonna be streaming march 11th you heard it your first wow okay that's kind of soon thank god well with that you guys thank you so much for watching the podcast and we'll be here next wednesday and maya will be here maya will be here thank you for having me thank you for welcoming me on this side of the camera oh yeah sav wait she'll have eyebrows wait wait before we go sav you have a youtube channel i do talk about it tell everyone about it i have a youtube channel sav mirrors s-a-v-m-e-a-r-s and i will be posting more consistently the gap between the first and second video was fierce but not as fierce as it could have been no but um post on youtube period it's the one platform that i literally haven't posted on because it's too it's too overwhelming for me i see i see yeah it's been fun it's fun it's just been like a fun outlet keeping myself accountable of like creating and like practicing filmmaking and like that sort of thing so that's kind of my outlet for that and yeah yeah that and she has a tiktok where she does movie reviews oh yes i let it i let it sit well while we figured out tiktok oh this while we figured out the tiktok drama um yeah that one is savage sav i believe savage sav all right savage sav and sav mirrors on youtube thanks guys what else do you want to plug um i have this new um t line coming out called flat tummy t no that's it all right bye guys we love you ugh i hate mondays king swine cinnamon swirl bite uh taylor hansen sure i'll try one hey let's get back to work please but taylor hansen's making my day way better with these new soft and swirly kids king's hawaiian cinnamon bites taylor hansen nice try one king's hawaiian cinnamon bites there's nothing like it

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The host shares a joyful experience with King's Hawaiian Cinnamon Bites, calling them a delightful treat that lifts their mood.
  2. A heartfelt connection is formed with Sav Meers, recalling their long-standing friendship since 2018 and shared experiences in church and personal growth.
  3. The conversation reveals deep personal anecdotes about past church experiences, including questionable practices and financial exploitation, leading to reflections on faith and manipulation.
  4. The hosts express skepticism toward reality TV, particularly *America’s Next Top Model*, criticizing its exploitative narratives and shallow portrayals of relationships and personal struggles.
  5. A strong emphasis is placed on body positivity, self-acceptance, and the importance of diverse representations of beauty and health.
  6. The discussion includes a humorous yet critical take on social media, church culture, and reality TV, highlighting underlying issues like deception and lack of transparency.
  7. Personal stories of trauma, mental health struggles, and recovery are shared, emphasizing the need for honesty, self-care, and emotional healing.
  8. The group celebrates community, friendship, and support, with shout-outs to people and businesses like Flora et al., Laura, and Salt & Straw.

Summary:

The podcast features a lively and personal exchange centered on friendship, personal growth, and critical reflections on culture and media. The host begins with a lighthearted moment enjoying King’s Hawaiian Cinnamon Bites, which sets a joyful tone. This leads into a deep dive with long-time friend Sav Meers, recalling their friendship since 2018 and shared experiences in church, where they encountered troubling practices like financial exploitation and misleading spiritual messaging.

The conversation shifts to a candid critique of reality TV, especially *America’s Next Top Model*, which the hosts believe often exploits people and distorts truth for entertainment. They emphasize body positivity, noting the importance of seeing diverse body types and health standards in media. Personal stories about trauma, mental health, and life-altering decisions—like a back injury and sleep disturbances—underscore the need for self-awareness and healing.

The hosts also highlight the value of community, offering shout-outs to friends, businesses, and personal milestones. Ultimately, the episode blends humor, vulnerability, and activism, promoting authenticity, self-acceptance, and critical thinking about institutions and media. Throughout, the tone remains supportive, grounded in real-life experiences and a desire for deeper, more honest relationships.

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They are praised for being soft, swirly, and delicious, with one speaker saying there's 'nothing like it.'

Sav Meers is a long-time friend and co-host who shares a deep personal history, including a bond formed through shared experiences in church and a mutual friend's birthday trip.

The nickname originated when a celebrity emailed her with the phrase 'my dearest Savanna,' which the speaker remembered and later adopted as a tribute.

They described being involved in a church leadership college that involved long hours of work, online classes, and signing NDAs, which they later criticized as exploitative and manipulative.

It reflects how pastors were marketed with expensive clothing and shoes, which the speaker found misleading and part of a larger pattern of financial manipulation in churches.

The speaker experienced psychosis after hearing a persistent, unnerving noise at 4 a.m., which they initially thought came from their neighbor, leading to sleep deprivation and stress.

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