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- I lie about reading books all the time. - Right, which is how we got to the podcast. - No, yeah. - Books, I have read a lot of books. I have a really hard time with men specifically, making them think that they know more information than me. So yes, in multiple scenarios with men telling me they read a book, I have looked up on chat to you to the book summary and pretended that I read the book. - And now I'm putting the rules in the book. - I have the clock, it's like-- (upbeat music) - Oh! - Okay, hi guys. Welcome back to another episode of Booked Bond and Busy. So obviously last episode was Sex in the City with Ms. Kenneth Bush and Owl. So I wanted to kind of bring on my version of Sex in the City. This is my little friend group. And we all kind of embody a different character of Sex in the City. So we're gonna do a little game where we're all gonna introduce each other. So I'm gonna introduce Ms. JoJo Goltz Chock. - Right? - Is that how we pronounce it? - No, so Ms. JoJo is actually the best chef out of the group, I would say. Definitely cooks us all our food. I'm gonna do a wild card. I'm gonna say you're the funniest out of all this. - I kind of agree. - I agree, too. Sorry, I'm wherever you're at. - Okay, your turn JoJo. - Hi, I'm JoJo. - Introduce Alaska. - And I'm gonna introduce Alexa. - Alexa. - Alexa. She also goes by Alexa. - Alexa. - I have this thing where I always pronounce Alaska because when I first started following her and TikTok, I refer to her as a leska. - And get it, and get it. But you know what? - Alexa. - All right, a leska is like your alter ego. - Yeah. - A leska. - A leska. - Like the worst alter ego. - Alexa is her alter ego, let's see. - Okay, well, this is a leska. She goes by Alexa too. - She loves playing tennis. - Posting TikTok videos, I don't know how to hang. That's a little hoistening. Guys, I'm Alexa. This is Phoenix. She's the funnest out of the group, maybe. She likes to remind you that she's the funnest. We don't know about that, but. - Don't worry, you're the funnest. You're the funnest. I'm so sorry. - What have I been saying? Didn't we're like a minute in it? Anyway, this is Phoenix. - So she goes. - Hi. - A legend. - She's also a sexy ginger guy. She's also a sexy ginger. - Okay, I'm Phoenix. And I'm gonna be introducing Hannah, who is our supermodel, hilarious. So funny, loves her memes and loves Instagram reels. And yeah, you'll know that you're a good girl. - You're also her friend, if she's made a sticker out of you, or if she sends you ridiculous animal videos on TikTok or Instagram. - I haven't received any names. - Yeah. - Come on, oh my god, you guys, it's coming. So awkward. This is Hannah. - Okay, I'm Hannah, and this is Olivia. Sports illustrated, Victoria's secret, inspirational models for women. - We're at the same point. (laughing) - We were, we were, we were, we were, we were at the same point. - By the way, we are here and we like, what were you talking about? (laughing) - Sports woman. - But back to what I was saying. This is Olivia. She's fabulous. And very talented and very smart and loves to read. And that's why we're here today. - That's why we're here, ladies and gentlemen. - Okay, we're playing guilty or not guilty. So if you're guilty, I, - Like not guilty. - Something we did. - Do we write hands? - Yeah, so guilty. And then if you're not, just put your hand down. - Okay, cool. - Have you ever left a club to you or him to read? - Baby, no. (laughing) - I know Hannah. So you get the secret, remember when we all went out to go to dinner and I was wearing those two pieces with the orange, I left to go read. - Yeah, I think you stored it. I was like, that in a sense. - Yeah. - Me and my Kindle. - That's right. (laughing) - So the next one? Have you ever lied about reading a book? - Yol-tee. - Yol-tee. - Yol-tee. - Yol-tee. - Yol-tee. - Yol-tee. - I don't think I'm cold. - I've lied about reading a book. I'm very open about how to write a book. - I'm very open about how to write a book. I'm like, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what? St. Bitches you. - She's such a woman. - I haven't started. I haven't started. (laughing) - I lie about reading books all the time. - No, yeah. - Yeah. So yes, in multiple scenarios with men telling me they read a book, I have looked up on chat to me to the book summary and pretended that I read a book. - No, I'm putting it throughout the world. - I haven't got in the clock. - Literally just like, they'll be in the clock. This happened to me actually recently. Some guy was having a conversation with a friend of mine talking about a book that I hadn't read. So I knew he was gonna come to me next so I just looked up the summary and I'm masterful. And I'm like, it is, I get it from my father. It is my best friend. I can make up, like. - Maybe that's what I'm talking about. - Yeah, yeah. - Maybe that too. I think honestly it's an incredible trait. And it's gotten me a lot of really good places. But I was able to have this whole conversation about this book that I had like maybe three sentences on that I could barely see from beneath the table. And you would never know that I had read it. - Have you ever read a spicy chapter first? - Wait, I have read a book. - A book? - The one I read recently two years ago. - She's never read it. - The one that they made the movie about, the collinear one. Did you mean it ends with us? - Yeah. - Or ugly love. - I've read both. - Well, half of ugly love. A couple pages of ugly love in the back of us. - What did you think about it? - Well, it ends with us. I did have my friend read off of it to me. - I read both. - On the table. - The book that Hannah recommended to me about the dark, what was it not Harry Potter? - She felt so bad about reading that by the way. Like she would be like, I can't believe it. I have anywhere read that by the way. - I can't believe I recommend it. - I need to explain it. So basically we all went to McAllen Jackson one day and we were like, let's go get our books. Like, I don't even know why we were there. So Hannah gets me this book and it's called The Lost Kings. - I didn't get you. - You were like, oh my god, I've seen so many good things about this. You have to read it. Like, gave it to me and I was like, okay, like I'm done. Like the cover was kind of scary looking. So I was like, why not? And we go to JoJo's house. - Yes. - Guys, she read this book and while I cooked Tadena, the whole entire book. - Yes. - Do you read the book to JoJo? - Do you like, okay. - You know, like you have the voice inside of your head. - Yeah. - Do you go like, where do you go like, you know, like when I'm reading, I have to, I'm just, I'm just like see it. So I have to like actually read. - Right, okay. It's been quite long to read it. - You got that outlawed, man. - But I did read it outlawed to her and I was like, I didn't know the premise of the book at all. I was like, sure. And so I get home and I'm reading it to JoJo and I'm like, is this Peter Pan? - Yeah. - Is this, is this Captain Hook? I was like, what the, but it was like a dark version of it. Like I would. - Was it based off the same character? - Yeah. - It was like Captain Hook, Peter Pan, Wendy. - Wait, what's the book called? - The Lost King. - I really should all read it. - Right. - It was like 150 pages. I read it in like two days a day. Maybe, yeah. - You read half of it on the set. - Yeah, like it was-- - It got you out of your slump though. - It did. - Right, so when is the win? - Oh, when is the win? - Okay, next one is have you ever do not finish a book that everyone swore changed their life? - Yes. - Yes. - Paddy Smith, whatever breaking, sorry, the talking stick. Paddy Smith's breaking habit, something, something. - I don't know what that is. - The Paddy Smith book. - The kid, just kids. - Yeah, just by Paddy Smith, I don't read it. - Oh, just kids, I thought you were talking. - She said Paddy Smith on the, I think she, it was a hard read, I think hard read. - Really hard read, but apparently gets better. I literally got through like 60% of the book and I just, I was like, I can't do it. - What book have you read that you didn't finish? - Well, I went back to it, but like after years, but a little life actually made me want to like, I'm not even kidding, like throw the book outside. I was like, why would anybody want to read this? It was subjecting myself to torture. And I just felt like, why is one bad thing? Have you read it? - But I've heard it. - By the way, don't, just don't. It's exhausting, it's honestly an exhausting read. And I got like halfway through and already so many disastrous things had happened. And I was like, this can't get worse. And then you keep reading and it just gets worse. And I just was like, this is the longest book ever for there to be no silver lining whatsoever. - Yeah. - And I eventually did go back to it because I needed a book and it was the only book in the vicinity and I finished it. And I think honestly stepping away from it, I was able to then go back into it with a less like dismal. - Yeah. I want to go into a topic of conversation that I feel like you Phoenix will really understand. I want to talk about, do you think book talk is dead? Because for the viewers, to understand if Phoenix does not watch book talk, you-- - What is book talk? - It's like the side of TikTok that like all, it's all books. - Yeah, it's like my whole free page is like girls talking. - Yeah, boring. - It's like all talking about it. It's like hot girls that read, like they're all beautiful girls. I'm like, okay, I'm on the right side of TikTok. - I'm on the right side of TikTok. - I am. - She is on book talk. - Oh really? - Yes. - She's just flirting with her 'cause you said hot girls. (laughing) - Who's it Phoenix? So do you think book talk is dead? - I don't think book talk is dead, but as somebody who gets very overwhelmed by other people's opinions around their experience with books, book talk for me is like really discouraging. Honestly, like, I remember in COVID when book talk like really started emerging around calling Hoover and a lot of those. - I can't look at you guys. - I'm like trying to have a-- - I know, I know it's really rude. It's rude. What? Is it going to be separated soon? Jordan Polite. Anyway, I think that for me, hearing so many people have their opinions around books and certain books that were like circling that internet space, I felt like, oh, I must have this same reaction and the same experience. And ultimately, I would like order the book, start reading it and then I would be so consumed with all of the opinions I had circulating that I wouldn't be able to actually have a singular experience reading the book. I think that's how I feel with the Akatar. It's like everyone told me I was going to love it so much because I love like four things and ran to see, but then it's like the whole book I was just thinking like, I should love this, I should love this, I should love this and like I didn't love it that much. Yeah, and I agree. I agree. Like I read Akatar and I like the storyline, but there were so many times, no hate to the author, by the way, you still, you still ate that, you know what I mean? But there were still so many times where I was reading it and I was so confused and I had to reread it like six times and even after the six times, I still couldn't really paint the picture as well as that I wanted to. But then it's like the whole book is world building. So I'm like, right, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way, I got 60% through the second book and like, it's still, I still like out of comfort, go back and read it, but like I just wish it was a little bit more descriptive and like easier to like digest. I agree. I also feel like when you're seeing all these people like read these books online and then you start to read them and you don't like it, it's almost like, okay, then I shouldn't read because all these people love to read and they're loving these books and I don't feel the same connection with it. So maybe reading's just not for me. But I think like in getting into reading and like figuring out what you like, it's more of like a singular passage of like, okay, I might not like the books that you like. Like I know that you're really into fantasy. Like that's not necessarily like the thing that makes me want to pick up a book. Like I find a lot of fascination and like, I don't know, things that I can relate more to my own personal life, like in that sense. Have you been finding 13? No, yeah. Never. The last two books that I read, which were amazing, if anybody who watches this has read, have read them, was Demon Copperhead, have you heard of that? Literally like, fantastic. That book, I think, is pivotal for any person, just like in any sort of line of life. Like I think there's a lesson for everybody, but I think any young male should read that book. I think there's so many lessons that if I was a man, I feel like I would be able to even have a greater experience with. And then the martyr, I don't know if it's actually martyr or the martyr, but that was martyr phenomenal. Like the way that that book is written and the plot twist at the end, I won't spoil anything, but like I had the greatest experience reading that book. But those were the two books that really got me back into a flow of reading. What's your favorite trope? Do you love a plot twist? Do you love an unexpected character coming in? Do you like a lot of love triangle? What do you guys like? I love a plot twist. I think I find I gravitate. Yeah, I love a plot twist at the end because I feel like it just makes you feel like it was all worth it in a sense. I agree. But I also, I gravitate more to like how the book is written and the sense of speech that the author writes in. I love to read things in the same frequency that I think. Like I in my mind, it's like a constant stream of stream of thoughts that don't really have like a specific ending. So I love run on sentences. Like I love somebody who has a sentence that lasts half the page. Like thank you. Because for me, that allows me to create the image in my mind, almost as if I was watching TV, where like if somebody has shorter more dialogue in their writing, I don't love it as much. Like interesting. Calling Hoover. And who's the author who wrote people in the Omnication? Emily Henry. Emily Henry. Yeah. Has a lot of dialogue. And for me, that's kind of harder to get into because I can't imagine that speech as I could. Somebody's like inner thoughts, inner thoughts and framing. I read this one book next to Heaven by James Frey. And it was from like 12 different people's perspective and each paragraph was written from a different characters perspective. So it would say like their name and then like a paragraph about them. And then it went through and explained to everyone's love dynamic. And who's dating who? And basically it's kind of crazy. They decided to have a Swinger's party. And then at the Swinger's party, somebody like when you write a bunch of couples and you're all married and you come together and then you all switch around. Well, crazy. And it was all like about like 40 votes. It was like really jojo see her future. She's like okay. She's a threat. But yeah, that was a good crazy reading experience. And I honestly didn't feel like I was reading a book. I felt like I was watching the movie. Was it like a script almost? Like yeah, but there was like zero dialogue. Interesting. Like very, very, very small amounts. Cool. And it was the first time that I'd ever done like a multi characters perspective. And that was really interesting. What? Seven husbands of Evelyn. You know, wasn't that multi characters? But isn't that like different chapters? No, it goes from the perspective of Evelyn Hugo and then of the perspective to the other character. Yeah. No, like that's normal. Like yeah, characters I feel like is normal. Yeah, that's how like I like. Yeah, I really like books. Yeah, keeps me interested, especially with someone that has ADHD. Like I need for something to be happening all the time. And I think like changing perspectives, like that's a great book. I agree. But this was, I feel like that was the first book. I didn't know it was written like that until I started reading it. And I was like, whoa, what was the book that got you into books? Like what got you into? Craved by Tracy Wolf. I feel like everyone had that that like kind of fantasy-esque book that like got Percy Jackson. Yeah, I was obsessed with them. They were all German books. Like that series that you were seeing was like the selection. I read it in German. I thought it was a German author. No, she's a German author and not. I like read the whole, that was a great story to like get into. I was like, wow, this is interesting. I was like forced to like read books in my childhood and elementary school. But it made me in turn love reading. I feel like when you're a kid, you want to be immersed into like another world. And that's why those books feel so riveting because you're like, your imagination can actually go that home, you know. Yeah, yeah. We're going to talk about our favorite like book adaptation, hungry, yeah, so everything, etc. So I'm going to read a list of names and then we're going to almost do like a bracket where we're going to like slowly lead off one book at a time and then we're going to pick out like our favorite one. We have Twilight, Harry Potter, divergent, off campus, the house made, people we met on vacation and the 100 games. I don't know if I was okay. Are we weeding them out as a as a collection like the the book and the adaptation? Okay. I feel like off rip. I want to delete people we met on vacation. I would never watch that. Even ever watch it. Okay, then we're definitely. So how did you guys feel about the house made? I've never seen that. I've watched that honestly. I've seen bits and pieces and I just like don't really think it's my vibe. Like it's a little too dark. I just don't like the storyline. Yeah, it wasn't really for me. I didn't like it at all. And I read and watched. Okay, so I'll delete it. I loved it. Where would you guys think about off campus? I like it. I loved it. It was great. Yeah, me and Hannah really finished it yesterday. We watched it together. What do you think? It felt like reality TV. It was like very like exaggerated reality in a way that like didn't really feel that scripted honestly because it almost was like so satirical in a sense like they're all of their dynamics. But it was just like an easy watch, something nice to throw on. You know, it was like kind of comforting. We were like, every night we'd come home. We'd be like, okay, off campus. But then eventually you're done. And you're like, okay, we did just spend and then a sort of a lot of time watching that show. Yeah, which couple did you prefer? JoJo. Like, I don't even know the characters. Yeah. I don't care where the main characters are and then Allie and Dean were the blonde hair. I kind of liked Allie and Dean. Yeah, I kind of loved that. Just because it was like, I kind of liked Allie and Dean, too. I didn't love Allie and Dean. Really? I liked Allie and Dean. Wait, was Dean the blonde guy? Yeah, yeah, I thought he was hotter. Well, first of all, I also think that there should be some kind of like trigger warning because I feel like they'd talk about there was in the beginning. There's a trigger warning. I should end up with episodes. Yeah, of the episode they talked about. There's a trigger warning because I watched that. I will say it was interesting because they were weaving in like deeper themes with their like lighthearted script. Yeah, which was kind of interesting. I thought about the same thing with the book. Did you read the book? No, like it felt like very lighthearted. Like something like a high schooler would read like the braiding style and it just went into like a crazy life feeling like very traumatic thing that happens to someone and like even while watching it and reading it, it just felt like like you're talking about this script was very lighthearted, especially between Hannah and Garrett at the two main characters. And then it would just be like should get these crazy flashbacks. It's crazy nightmares. And I'd be like, well, there's nothing else darkening. Besides, obviously, we get later into it when Garrett and the the dad have that. I just also felt like the chemistry read between Hannah and Garrett in this TV show did not read the way that it did in the book. Like in the book, you were like really rooting for them and you were like, oh, well maybe. But like also in the film, like what was the side character that Hannah wanted? John, Johnny? - Oh, Jay or something like that? - No, no, quick. - Josh? - Josh, Justin. - Yeah, so like Justin in the book was like not really a main character and in the film, he was in like half the episode and there's a way. - Yeah, yeah. - But it's hard because they have to like adopt it in a way and that people that haven't read the book are interested in it and like will, 'cause then also in the future they can do more spin-offs with it, so maybe that's what they're trying to do. - I did think the conversation between what's the main girl's name, Hannah and her mom in the show. I don't know what it was in the book, 'cause I didn't read the book. - You mean the part where she's crying? Where she's crying and she's crying to the mom and she's having like this distressing moment. I honestly felt like that was like so touching even though the rest of the show is not that evoking of emotion to me at least. And then in that moment, I like, we were watching it very relaxed. Like in the background, I have no connection with the characters really at all. But in that, I like took a second and we were, I was like, wow, this is really emotional. And I think it's a really important way to, how do I say this in like an appropriate manner? To appeal that type of conversation of like acceptance to a younger generation and something that's not so intense all around in every episode and every moment. - Yeah. - Yeah, because I think sometimes those conversations come up in very intense. - Yes, which makes you want to evolve. - Which makes you want to avoid them and also doesn't allow for that conversation to be more relevant in a younger, obviously that shouldn't be a conversation. Anybody should have that. But it's really important for people to have that motherly perspective of saying like, to her, I mean, without spoiling what happens. But really making her feel heard and seen in all this stuff. So I thought that that was honestly, like, who knows to that, for that. - And it was kind of, it was kind of accurate at how like the, how the girl was having the panic attacks. How he was having the panic attacks. And I was like, okay, this is a nice perspective for people to watch and kind of understand what's going on in somebody's head when they're, like having, when they're having PTSD. Yeah, I mean, like the heart and then like, thumping sounds and it was just really interesting. - Also just like the not being able to formulate for her like sentences and just like saying like, the bike, it's the bike or whatever when she was having that moment. I thought that was really powerful. So because sometimes you just don't know where the team is coming from. - Who would have happened to you. - And it's like something so small that sets off like an entirely different thing. That's always been such a big thing for me. It's like, I'm in the middle of it, just totally normal day and like one thing happened. - Smallest thing. - Your day is completely wrong. You're freaking out about this like random thing. But like I think in a lot of ways with the film they did hit the nose, like for example, like that scene or even just like, like this was not an accurate thing for the book adaptation, but the one episode where she was like giving me an orgasm so I can have my first orgasm. Like I felt like that also touched a lot of things that like maybe, maybe none of us can really understand, but like I'm sure other people couldn't relate to it. It's like you're almost nervous. In a weird way it kind of made me was like, oh baby, gay Olivia, but like when you're like practicing with your friends to kiss them 'cause you're like, oh my gosh, I'm gonna kiss my first boy. But then like I look back at it and I practice so many way too many people. Which many girls? (laughs) - That's the thing about the waters. That's okay. - Yeah, it's okay. We made it need my first kiss. It's okay. - Yeah. - It's okay. - But. - Soft lips are nice. - Soft lips are nice and stuffy. - That's her contribution. (laughs) - That's what? (laughs) - Okay, so now, what did you guys think? Have you read "Sash Watched" Iverdon? - No, I've watched it. - Okay, nice. Have you guys read it, either? - I'm reading it right now for the first time and it's scarily, scarily the exact same to the movie. - Oh really? - Like there is not but it's a single thing, but I'm granted I'm only on page 80. - I haven't read the film, either. I mean, I haven't watched the film, so I'm like, oh my god, I'm gonna watch the movie. - Yeah, so good. - I'll watch the movie. - I have like a weird, like I don't like, this is really hot take. Like I'm gonna be like, I don't like twilight. - Okay. - I understand. - We are sorry. - Why? - It's me, brother. - It's me, it's me. - It's me, brother. - It's me, it's me. - It's just like a little too, like too much fantasy. Like no one's talking to one another like that, you know what I mean? - I just didn't feel any sort of like visual or emotional or like. - I've only ever gotten through like the first 20 minutes of every like movie. - I think I got through 20 minutes. - Yeah, and it's just like, I don't know there's something about it. I can't get into it. - I just love it. The baseball scene. The boss running. - It's very iconic, like it's a nice comfort movie, but if you are like really watching and like seeing it, I can understand how the dialogue can be a little. - Yeah. - But I also think it's really should be for like, I usually like cringy things, and like, I also think, it's one of the things where if you didn't have the emotional attachment to it that you were supposed to have during that time, it's really hard to get into it now. Like as a 22 year old, - That's what I was going back to watch it. Like I'm like, what on earth are you talking about? But I know that like my sister for example, like loves to watch it again, because to her it like brings her back to a time of watching it and having this association with it. Where it like feels. - And like every time we watch it, I watch it like once a year. - Yeah, me too. - Every year, it progressively gets cringy. And like I just like, it was an apple on the table there and then in the next shot, the apple's gone. - Yeah. - Yeah. - It feels like they've like made it in their back bones. Like I know that that's what happened, but it feels like if you gave, this is a really hot take. But this is like, it feels like if you gave like, middle scores like a budget. - To be honest, like Robert Pattison always says in interviews, like how embarrassed he is of the movie. Like I think everyone knows it's embarrassing and cringy, but again, it's just a comfort movie. - And it was a cultural movement. Like that was a very, like everyone lined up to go to the movie to watch it. - I also think that was like the most fan of it. Like that era was like so strong on like, getting attached to these characters and having this whole world that like, they were like, I don't know what you call it for that type of thing, but like I imagine that there was like a comic con type of thing before divergent or like these big events that were put on surrounding this world. - So should we delete divergent and of this? - Yeah, sorry, well that was really long. - Sure. - What else do you guys want to delete off campus? Do you guys like off campus? - Off campus. - I think off campus has to go. - I think it has to go. - You can't put an extra theory part of the game. - Yeah, it's like it has to go. - And I think let's take off Twilight. Twilight. - That's great. - We're getting real divergent. - Yeah, I mean, since she hasn't watched it, that's so nice. - Guys, that was amazing. - We're getting what's so great. - But it's not cringe, it's not at all. - You guys are all gonna put Hunger Games over Harry Potter. Harry Potter has to be the actual Hunger Games for sure. - It is, I mean, it's Harry Potter games. - It's Hunger Games. - That is the foundation of imagination. Like it is Harry Potter. You were not-- - See that, I'm crazy on that. - But like, come Hunger Games, talk that and beat it. - Yeah. - Hunger Games did not beat it. Hunger Games had not, it's a completely different vibe. - It's a completely different vibe, not only. But like, you cannot, I mean, it's crazy to say, I've only watched Harry Potter wanted it. - Have you read the books? - No. - Okay, guys, the talking stick, you see it? - The talking stick, we give it to you. - Can we please watch the Harry Potter movies? Have some lines and go to the Harry Potter world. - Yeah. - It's my dream. - I can't believe you were hungry. - The Hunger Games over Harry Potter. - Can we please do that universal spot? - Can you read the books? - I do, I do want to try to read the books because I read our, I watched the first five movies and I just couldn't get into it. - Do you guys remember the plastic book fair? - Yeah. - When you would go and your parents would give you like a little bit of money and you would like go and like walk around the, and it was like so lit and there was toys at the end. - Yeah. - And candy was awesome. - Never gone better than that. - Oh my gosh, pivotal moment. - I got the 12 or 13, how many? - I don't know, I don't know. - See, that many books. - Hogwarts is still too small. - But it was like, in a case- - It goes so somewhere. - And I remember I didn't want to, it's like when you're a little and you don't want to unpackage something. I remember I just sat there the full case of the full collection and I was like obsessed with the fact that they were pristine condition and then eventually I went through and read them. Genuinely, I think that you should read them because I honestly like the books better than I like movies. I'm a big Harry Potter person. They're the only thing I have downloaded on Apple TV, so like when I'm like going on a flight that doesn't have movies, I'll like re-watch them over and over again. - Similar to Busy Jackson. But it's the closest. I mean, Harry Potter, really like the books are fantastic. - Yeah, Hunger Games wins. (laughing) Welcome back to Bucht1 and Busy. We're gonna go into the third and final theme of the day, which is pride. - Happy Pride. - Woo, happy Pride. - So June is obviously. - Yeah, happy. - Okay, eight and a half. - So June is obviously a GB2Q IA plus month, not only in New York City, but everywhere else around the world. Are you guys going to Pride? It's on June 28th in New York City. Are you guys going? - No, I think I'm gonna be in London. - I'm in London too. - I'm in London too. - No one's going? - I might have to go visit my girlfriend 'cause happy Pride, right? - So I'm not gonna go by. I don't know, I don't know, I appreciate pride but it is really overwhelming, I will say that, there's a lot going on, the streets are so packed Also the past two years in New York, at least it's always been raining, so it's just been a little bit too sunny, last year was amazing, last year was raining, I know it was raining, it was wet, you're talking about rain for a bit I'm not talking about the weather you guys, also I had an amazing time in the rain, in the fall and out, actually you're going to go out and you know, I did go in the fall, you need me to test it I've gone in the fall and before I was a freshman in college, I'm fine, what's your excuse? I was having fun, right, of course, pride, yeah, okay, so if I'm here for pride, we're all coming out, yeah, right, yeah, so we're coming out earlier All right, so LGBTQI books, you've read Alaska, seven husbands at Beverly Hills, I thought it was amazing, me and Hannah actually read it during the honeymoon phase We had a playlist in everything, I have a big playlist, it was like I cannot recommend it enough during the honeymoon phase, it was insane Or at any phase of your life, that's sorry How did you like the playlist that I made for the book, do you think it made? Every song that I listened to, and it was like a lot of like blood orange and like you know that sort of I can't even remember more songs on it I feel like the Maria is whatever, girl in red? No, it's too cringe, because we were like, sorry, I'm straight, I love going red I used to listen to it all But not while you read, like I have a specific playlist, and like whenever I was reading and I had the playlist on, I was turning into a movie You know, it was just every single time that I was reading with the playlist, it was so vivid, I feel like that's what got you into that book And maybe that's what we need to do And maybe listen to it, like listen to those songs now, it reminds me of the book and like everything I felt with that book, and just like our relationship Maybe we'll link it Please do, no it's kind of interesting Is it the earlier one? So some of us here have some very deep roots to the LGBTQIA relationship, I mean community So do you have any advice or like what would you share to someone who isn't like this process of potentially coming out? Experiment, and you don't have to put a label on it, it's okay, not everyone needs a label, I think like if anything other people want a label more than you For some reason You can just expand, try your thing, and if you don't like something, you don't like something I would recommend trying something twice before you say you don't like it, because I know that I've had a bad experience with a girl the first time and so has, I think a lot of you might want to do Which made me think I was like actually asexual, I was like okay, no for guys, no for girls, I'm not what And then I tried girls one more time and I was like okay, this is for me and I think you don't have to force it, I think like a lot of us like think something and then you force it, you don't have to force it and you don't have to put yourself in a box Yeah, and I think for some people it's more obvious that others that they're gay like for me like I didn't really know until like quarantine and I was seeing all those TikToks, right? Gay TikTok 2020, right, what a time, I unfortunately went on gay TikTok and I wish I did because I love to just come out sooner and just be myself sooner But you had the signs growing up like she was wearing, tell us what you were wearing and what you had on your wall Like, my room was like an Xbox, a basketball, but I don't know anymore, I love the color, some soccer balls, some trophies, you know Yeah, you guys, like for her it was obvious like for me like I didn't really know and also like it's kind of hard when you're not dressing like a tomboy from the age of four, you know what I mean? But yeah, just don't press it also, side note, if you don't feel safe coming out in your situation, don't do it until you're moved out and you're safe I don't think you have to come out if your family is homophobic or if you feel like the people around you aren't gonna accept you Tell a friend that you trust, but don't feel forced to come out if you don't think it's gonna be a safe situation for you Side note, period Anyways, how was coming out for you? Yeah, how was it like so awkward? Like, look at me, what do you mean? Do you feel like people didn't believe you or something? Like no, and my friends were the friends like when I came out and they were like, well, do you think I'm a hot? Oh God, like it was so infuriating to me. Like I just one girl specifically who I'm no longer friends with because of this, like I had been dating somebody, I've been dating a female for quite some time And she flew from somewhere to come and visit me because we'd been friends prior and when she got there, like I wasn't out to like everyone yet Like I was out just to my very close friends and everyone who I was dating this girl and she came and visiting me and I was like, oh yeah, like by the way, like you'll probably meet my girlfriend this week Like she's gonna probably sleep over tonight or something like that And she started like asking these questions. She's like, well, do you think I'm hot like in a gay way? And I was like, no, if I thought you were hot in a gay way, you would not be here. Yeah, don't flatter yourself. I think as well when you're coming out, it's like your straight friend, friends thinking you have a crush on them. Yeah, and I had so many, so many of my straight friends like thought I had a crush on them and I was like, well, this isn't about you. Yeah, I was like, well, relax. So that was like a really weird experience, like coming out to my mom was a really weird experience. I just kind of like call her on the phone and was just like, I'm dating this girl, like gave her like 30 facts about the girl and hung up. And I never came up to my dad. I just sent him a shirt that's in my daughter's gay. And like, let me put this here. Honestly, kind of my corner. Yeah, and then my sister, my sister was supportive. Like my hometown friends weren't really supportive. It's hard in Florida as well. I lost a lot of them. Yeah. But they just like, like when I came out, they just like sent me to my group chat and was like, what is this? And I was like, that's like, like in a room, right? Like in a room. Yeah, so I just like didn't answer. No. I just didn't answer the group chat again. But anyways, the point is to just be gay, be happy, be whatever you want to be. And be safe. Yeah, be safe about it. And happy Pride. Happy Pride. Happy Pride. Okay. Well, that was it for this week's episode. Thank you so much to all of you beautiful angels for watching me and my friends talk. I knew it was a long one. I'm sorry. But we could actually talk for like five hours straight. It was so much fun. I'm so happy that you guys came on. I forget to subscribe to my Patreon where we talk more about books. So, thank you so much. Love you guys. And I'll be so much fun. Maybe next time we'll all read a book and come back. And we'll come back to you. Oh, we just. We'll catch that double half chair, you know. The hosha bang. I'll let you know the book of the next month. It will be revealing it very soon. So I'll talk to you guys later. Bye. (upbeat music)