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[MUSIC] Welcome to Love It or Leave It Live from Los Angeles. I'm John Love It, and in my attic, there's a portrait of me slowly going bald. We've got a great show for you, right? Michael Yuri is here. Cal Cripe is here. But first, let's get into it. What a week. On Monday, Donald Trump became the first sitting president to attend an MBA finals game. Can't wait, huge fans said Trump before pronouncing both Ks and Knix. Trump only decided to go after being assured multiple times by his staff that none of his children would be getting married at the event, arriving in Manhattan. Trump remarked, "You know, I used to have sex here while pointing at his crotch." It makes me sense. Here is Trump getting booed on the jumbo-tron during the national anthem. [MUSIC] Quick, quick, cut to Shalamet, said the panic-camera operator before realizing that Tina Fey had already swallowed him whole like a snake. The president was also booed at watch parties across the Big Apple. [MUSIC] It was as if all of New York City was booing a single man. I couldn't imagine anything worse, other than being a single woman. [MUSIC] All right, Trump also fell asleep at certain points of the game, though you already assumed that. [MUSIC] Sir, wake up Epstein's alive. Sir, sir, wake up, we found your childhood sled and then threw it in the garbage instead of donating it like you asked. Sir, sir, wake up, you took your weird penis out. Trump's presence created a headache for the game's other 20,000 attendees who were told to arrive at least two hours early to get through enhanced security. In response, New York City Mayor Zoran Mamdani, who bought tickets to the game to attend himself, announced that an additional watch party would be held at Bryant Park. Though you can't have open containers in the park because Mamdani has instituted Sharia law. Trump making the NBA finals all about himself led to comments like this one by Stephen A. Smith. If it causes the New York Knicks to win to lose tonight, I'm blaming him. I'm blaming the president in the United States. We'd like to think we had something to do with it, said the San Antonio Spurs. And then while Trump watched Ann Napt, the Knicks lost. We were overconfident after a series of victories and caught off guard by a surprisingly strong defense. That's about the war to run, but it also applies to the game. And in the end, we were bodied by a petro-state run by religious fundamentalists. That's about the game, but also applies to the war to run. On his way home from the game, Trump did an interview on the Tarmac to spin his appearance. It was loud and very enthusiastic, said Trump about every one of his wives, perfunctory fake orgasms. Speaking of fake and perfunctory, Trump has been accusing Los Angeles where we are. Currently recording of widespread voter fraud. Now that reality star Spencer Pratt has fallen behind progressive city council member Nithya Rahman in the vote count. Now L.A. does have a motive to steal an election from Spencer Pratt because most of L.A.'s voters don't want him to be mayor. If you think about it. Road Trump on true social, not possible for Spencer Pratt to have lost the L.A. run offs after the big lead he had. Just try an insurrection in Los Angeles, Trump. Where are you going to go, city hall, the county administrative building on temple, individual supervisor offices, Los Angeles divides authority across multiple layers of government, creating a convoluted bureaucracy that stymies progress and allows politicians to pass the buck, you idiot. Besides, you think the Pratt voters on the West side are going to go all the way downtown on a weekday to launch an insurrection? I don't think so. Maybe you can get them as far as West Adams. That's only if you promise to do an insurrection in Culver City next time. Republicans have latched onto the slow pace of California's ballot counting as a reason to suspect fraud because famously when you're committing a massive felony, you want to do it as slowly as possible. Really drag it out over days. The striptease of election fraud I call it. When asked for evidence of voter fraud, Mike Johnson's speaker of the house said this. But what evidence is there to prove that it was framed? I don't. Some of these efforts are so diabolical and so far upstream it is impossible to prove. But I think everybody knows instinctively something is wrong here. It just instinctively feels wrong, Mike Johnson said. Pulling the hockey mask down over his wife's face while asking her to call him Hollander. California. You can say a lot about the Democrats of the state of California. But the word diabolical would not occur to any of us. Have you seen these diabolical? Are you kidding me? According to recent polling, Mayor Karen Bass was up by 18 points in a one-on-one with Pratt, but down by four points in a one-on-one with Nithia. So the Democratic establishment, which is behind Karen Bass, in a diabolical maneuver rigged the election to make it harder for her to win in November. Now that I say that, that does sound like California Democrats. So let me back up. California vote counting is a notoriously long process. As every registered voter receives a mail-in ballot, and every ballot mailed by election day and received within seven days is counted. Also, according to California state law, the ballots must first be sorted by the voters' astrological sign. It doesn't change the final outcome, but it does slow things down. Plus, if you interrupt California Secretary of State's surely webber while she's counting, she gets flustered and has to start over again. Of course, this is all ridiculous. The only LA fraud we really need to get to the bottom of is gelsence. It's pavilions products at Aeroone prices. What are we doing? Why are we shopping here? It's crazy what they're doing at the gelsence. And he's carried out onto the street. The new mayor. I mean, heard Karen Bass say one fucking thing about what's going on at these gelsence prices. Even Republican gubernatorial candidate Steve Hilton, who won a spot on the November ballot, went on CNN Monday to dismiss Trump's concerns. But we take it very seriously because we don't want to let people down. And we've been very vigilant on it. We're keeping an eye on it. We've got teams standing by, lawyers standing by. And we've seen nothing that would give us calls to intervene in that way. But continued Hilton, everything looks legit as I seem to be winning. How many people here found out he had a British accent from that video? Not shocking. Isn't that shocking? That's why Trump blew a fuse when Meet the Press host, Kristen Welker asked him to back up his claims about LA's mayor race. They're cheating on the election. What do you have evidence to support? All I have to do is look. And listen. And I listen to people. And let's see what happens. But sir, that's not evidence. Do you think it's appropriate that they have the votes? Yeah, that's appropriate. They have proof. It's just like your crooked. Your press is crooked. And Meet the press is crooked. To be fair, I'm not crooked. But really, when you play right into their hands, let's continue. You read the crooked or you're stupid. It's a good line. I feel like we can stop asking Trump if he has evidence. At this point, it's like asking Rihanna if she has any new music. What kind of question is that? What are you hoping to gain? Trump then stormed off. Let's call it quick, because I've had it. Thank you, darling. Have a good time. Mr. President, let's please, I travel all the way to Wisconsin. Please, please, Mr. President, I came all the way to Wisconsin. It's so much dairy. I'm half black and half Jewish. I have one cheese curtain. It's like, Meet the press. More like Meet the toilet. And then finally, at the as he was leaving, Trump stepped on the microphone and crushed it. We travel all the way to Wisconsin for the community. (laughter) Me next, do it to me next, said Lindsey Graham, already flat on the floor, panting like a dog. (laughter) And we have a great show for you tonight. (applause) We'll be right back with Michael Yurei. Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of Love It Or Leave It coming up. Love It Or Leave It is brought to you by Chime. Chime is changing the way people bank. They offer the most rewarding, fee-free banking. Built for you, not the 1%. They're not like traditional old banks that charge you overdraft and monthly fees. They have thousands of fee-free ATMs because why pay to get your own money. Chime members can benefit from $1,150 in annual rewards fee-free. Get 5% cash back on Chime card in a category of your choice, like gas or groceries. 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And if you're in L.A., you can still get tickets at crooked dot com slash events to check out our new studio and upcoming guests, including SNL alum Jay Farrow, comedian actor and literal clown school graduate Zach Zucker and many more. We have a special Pride episode on June 16th. That's my mom's birthday. Featuring. Welcome to the stage. I know I need to see a therapist, but this is the next best thing. It's shrinking zone, Michael Yurie. Hi. Hello. Hi. Hi. Good to see you. It's so good to see you. Shrinking is on it's third season. Yes, the third season is out. You can watch the first three seasons. I can't believe I can't get high as you want. It's fine. It's fine. You want to be up here with you. Isn't it so interesting to be on a show about therapy even though the fat of therapy is over? Like it's sort of in the past now. I mean, like I'm going to show launch was like, oh, that's so perfect. We're all getting therapy. And now it's like, who's doing that? Who's doing that anymore? Now we're just like living in our own filth. Yeah. Mentally. Mentally mental filth. Yeah, because we're so busy. Well, yeah, when the show first came on, it was right after the pandemic when everybody got into therapy or when the taboo of mental health was sort of lifted, right? Like, I remember we started talking about our feelings during the pandemic because everyone was depressed. It was like, it was like the first time in humanity when the whole world was depressed. Yeah. And isn't it funny how, because we made the wrong president, president, we never processed our collective trauma, kind of in the same way how like after the Spanish flu, it was really about how World War One was so terrible. But really, we'd also been through a terrible pandemic, but we never really wrote as many poems about that. Did we, Michael? Not as many poems about the influenza. A lot of poems about the trenches. Not a lot of poems about the, eh, true. Hey, it says here you have a Googly eye. That's right, I do. I don't even know what the, hey, what's that mean? Okay. So, you know, some people have like a lazy eye. Do you mind my call out of lazy eye or like cross eye? I call mine a Googly eye, technically it is the, it is a severed nerve in my eye. It's the fourth nerve and I have a cerebral palsy of the fourth nerve. That's the, that's the technique. That's what a doctor told me it was. And it may have been caught, may have been, I may have been born with it, or it may have been caused by a head trauma, I had a few head traumas when I was a kid, I did that thing where you spin around and get dizzy and I hit my head on a coffee table. One time I was running up the front, the front sidewalk and I tripped and I hit my head on the step. So, a couple of head traumas that might have been what severed the nerve. I didn't even know I had this until I was like 17. And somebody pointed out that my eye was crossed and I was like, yeah, doesn't your eye go cross when you look a certain direction and you see double too? Well, apparently not everyone, that's not true for everyone. But when I look, when I look, like if I'm sitting here and I look at you, can you see how it goes? Can you see that? And I can see double, so like I can see you down here and I see you up here. So I used to use it to cheat in school. No kidding, I could like sit and cheat off of my next door neighbor's paper in school. You're just like one of the X-Men that didn't make it in the comics. Hit puberty and then I could look in both directions and say, get out of here, it's not that useful. We can't do anything with that. I can't stop Magneto with that, but how are we going to use that? How are we going to use this stuff? Magneto, I mean, maybe they'd think about it for an hour. And then I keep seeing double and running into things and like, not that one, the other one. Guys, Magneto's either to the left or to the right, but I know how to control it. I mean, if I look a certain, like if I'm looking at you here, I'm not seeing double and you can't tell that I have a Google AI, but if I look at you there, whoa, there it is. Isn't that crazy? Like, when I'm working in front of the camera, I know how to adjust. And I always thought I've got this down. No one's going to possibly know. And then I was like having just a small talk with one of the focus pullers at shrinking, the people who like pull the focus for the camera. And we're just chatting. And I was like, yeah, you know, and I've got this, I've got this, I got this Google AI thing. And he was like, oh, yeah, I know. [laughter] And I was like, oh, I guess he's looking close. But when I'm in a play, like on stage, I don't adjust because the audience can't see for the most part, unless they're that guy with really good eyes, they can't really see. And so I don't really care what my co-star thinks because you cheat out, you know, like on stage, you want to cheat out so that the audience gets your face. And so I give, and so I was recently doing, um, O'Merry on Broadway. I saw you in O'Merry. Yes, that's right. You came. I did. It was an amazing play by Kola Skola. I was doing it with Jinx Monsoon, the brilliant and talented Jinx Monsoon from Drag Race. She was playing Mary and I was playing Mary's teacher. And Mary's teacher comes, I'm not going to spoil anything, but Mary's teacher comes and teaches her some acting lessons. And so in this scene, when I'm giving her acting lessons, this is really funny exchange, where she's, she's not very good at it. And he's like, all right, you know, um, you know, meet it when you say it. Try to meet it when you say it. And then she does it. And it's really bad. Okay, well, look at me when, try looking at me when you say it. And then she looks like down at my crotch. And I'm like, look, look, look at me in the eye. And she goes, which eye? And then I say, both. And she, it meets, she does this really funny bit where she goes looking at both eyes. Very funny. Always kills. So we do the whole run, we run, we do this show together for two months and at the closing night party, Jinx, we're at the party, we're like, everyone's like, oh, I want to miss you, I'm going to miss you. I have to tell you something every night. Now that we're close, I can tell you every night when we got to the scene that you're teaching me about acting. And I had to say, which eye? I imagined your googly, she's like looking right at me. She's like, I felt like I didn't know which eye to look at, but the audience didn't know. And I never told you because I was so afraid that it would break us both up. But you know that's the truth when you meet somebody who has a funny eye. You don't know which one to look at. And here we were. And you don't even know if they have a sense of humor about it. And you don't know if they have a sense of humor. So every night she would go, which eye? And then feel a little bad. Because it, red, it wasn't added for your googly. No. It was always in there. I just happened to have one and it fit in and it is an extra joke for her and everyone's sitting on that side of the audience. So Apple TV Plus. Plus what? Why is everything plus? What is the plus? Paramount Plus? Apple TV Plus. What's the plus? I don't know. Great question. What's your favorite thing about the iPhone 17 Pro Max? Is it the camera or how everyone who has money and thinks of themselves as interesting? Got the orange one. It's like, oh wow, you're so avant-garde, you're so counter-culture, you got the orange one. It's that. I appreciate the unibody construction with the vapor chamber cooling. That's on a phone? Yeah. That's part of the new iPhone 17 Max Pro. Pro Max. Vapor, like it cools it, like so the phone doesn't get hot? I don't know. (audience laughing) Hey, I saw you in the show "El's Beth." You were on the first season of the show "El's Beth," and we were discussing this today. You also have a character on the good wife and the good fight. - Yes. - And "El's Beth" is part of the good wife good fight universe, but your character on "El's Beth" is not the character you played on the good fight good, good wife, who was like a CIA person. - Yes, Stephen Dino Verna was that guy's name. - And so, in that world, does that mean there's a Michael Yuri who will show up as a character? You know what I'm saying? How does it work? Because you can't, what does it work? If someone, you know what I'm saying? - I do, I know exactly what you're saying. - It's crystal clear. They broke the cycle, they broke that rule. "El's Beth" does not follow that same rule. - Because couldn't it be that you were in, you were the CIA person in character as the a feet rich person on that episode of "El's Beth" season one? - I'm sorry, a feet? - I mean, you played a rich gay guy who knew a lot about arts. - That's fair. - And it's a sort of textbook of feet. Do you not think, yeah, I thought the character was a feet. - He's a feet. - No, you're right, he's a feet. I don't know why I would be offended by that. - It's pride. - It's pride. - It's pride, it's pride. - Get that, get that, get that, get that. - Get that, get that. - Let that go. - I'm sorry. - So, let it go, let it out. - That is free, therapy. - That's free, therapy. - But no, they broke that. So now, people who played characters on the good wife and good fight can appear on "El's Beth" as different characters. However, I love this idea that the character I play on "El's Beth", whose name I can't come up with right this second, was undercover in the CIA as Stephen De Naveira. - I like that. Hey, I got married a few weeks ago, and we forced all the attendees to sing one day more. After the Friday night dinner, we handed out the lyrics and we assigned parts. Yeah. And yeah, Ginger Minj, the drag queen, led the whole wedding in "Sing this song". Now, Jason Siegel, and you have a lame-is moment, singing on the season of "Shrinking". - Correct. - Let's take a look. ♪ For people like you can wear my shoes ♪ ♪ There's a duty that's gonna change ♪ ♪ You know nothing, you're falling so wild ♪ ♪ You're a friend, you're nothing ♪ ♪ Up to me ♪ ♪ I was born in time and I was born in time ♪ - Hey, there's Harrison Ford. All right, I think he's in plenty. Thank you. What did Harrison Ford think about that? - No idea what we were about to do. - He didn't know. He had no idea. Well, the script said Jimmy and Brian sing the confrontation from "Lame-is". That's all it said. And I don't think he knows what that is. I don't think he understands what that means. He might know what "Lame-is" is, as a property, but I don't think he was at all aware. And we just started singing. And so his reactions are all completely authentic. - Do you think Harrison Ford and O'Merry can exist in the same room at the same time? Like, I would like him to see it. Do you think he would? - I think he would go. Yeah, I think he would see it. - But it hasn't seen. I can't. He doesn't seem like a New York guy. - He doesn't love, I don't think he loves New York. Although he has spent tons of time in New York. Speaking of Pride, I once saw Harrison Ford at the New York Pride parade. This is crazy. It was 2010, and I was on a float during the parade. And we were going-- - Just eye candy or was it connected to something? - It was for a play, I was doing a play. I was dancing in my underwear and in a cage. No, it was for this play called "The Temperamentals," which was about the Madison Society, which was the first political organization for gay people in 1950. Harry Hay, who started it, later started the radical fairies. The Madison Society is still a thing, but-- - Frank Camini, the protested outside the White House connected to the Madison. - Yes, yes, yes, exactly. And so we were in like a 1950s convertible in the parade. - Oh, that's the cast of the TV show, very cool. And so we're going down, you know, Fifth Avenue during the parade and just waving, you know, like you do in a parade, waving and looking at people and saying, "Hi, hi, hi," and I see standing on a lamp post. You know, somebody standing on a lamp post to see over. I see this guy in a suit with sunglasses and I'm like, "Doesn't that guy look like Harrison Ford?" And I pointed him and everybody in my float looks and then we go about our business. And then, and nobody thinks anything of it. Like, there was a guy who looked like Harrison Ford at the Pride Parade. So then years later, I'm working with Nick Jonas of the Jonas Brothers and he has a bodyguard with him for this job and the bodyguard comes up and he's like, "Hey, you, yeah, you. You made a lot of trouble for me during the gay pride parade a few years back. I was looking after Harrison Ford. He wanted to watch. You pointed at him and everyone started rushing him and I had to get him out of there." - Wow, you almost got Harrison Ford killed. - And he gets killed. There's no, I mean, look, I think Shrinky could potentially have happened without Harrison Ford but I think he was a big part of getting that thing going. I'm sure it would have been a very different show for sure. And he almost, you know, he almost got like, what's the opposite of gay-bashed? He almost got bashed by gays. I guess is what you would say. - It's the opposite of gay-bashes, gay-bashed. It just, you know, it's like flammable and flammable in a sense. And now you're talking about, and that he's dead, and then you're here being like, actually, Dustin Hoffman was fun to work with on this set. (laughing) He actually didn't even know we were gonna sing it. Hey, Michael. Inspired by your hit show on Apple+TV Shrinking, we're gonna crack open The Ag of Truth. (bell dings) Great. It's next to me. All right, however, we're gonna change it today because we're gonna not just have The Ag of Truth, which is this. We also are gonna have The Ag of Therapeutic Follow-ups. Okay? And so we're gonna answer a question, and then we're gonna answer a follow-up about it. - Okay, great. This is funny. You know, my character on the show is not a therapist. - Yes, we talked about this last time, and I decided I don't care. - Great, great. Just make sure. - What is the ideal time to have dinner? - 5.30. I know, I know, early. I intermittent fast, so I like to get done. - Do you think that could be connected to your relationship with your mother? (audience laughs) - Yeah, she was very strict about dinner. - If you only had 24 hours to live, would you come on this show again? (audience laughs) - Yeah, absolutely. Oh, hmm. - Sure. - Where in your body are you feeling that? (audience laughs) - Blatter, bladder, bladder, bladder. If you could have dinner with any person living or dead, it would be living, right? - Is that the whole question? - Yeah, and who would your dinner guess be? - I think it would be. John, love it, dead. - Wow, John me dead. Hey, what's the worst advice you've ever received? - Do you love it or leave it again? - You don't. - Hey. - No, no, no, no, I love it. - Wait, what if your, what the worst advice I ever received was don't come out of the closet? - How about that? - And that was when you started how I was in four told you. - That's when I was in four told you. (audience laughs) - From the lamp. - Yeah, he's like in 20 to-- - Too much, I can tell. Button it up. - Stay in! - You want a Hollywood? (audience laughs) Stay in, just shout it across my back. - But it's stay in, stay in. Hey, whose voice do you hear when you say that? - That's a therapy question. - You hear me? - Yeah, yeah. - We'll be right back. (laughs) - Hey, don't go anywhere. - Love It Or Leave It brought you by HEMS. If you want to know what's really worth your time and energy when it comes to losing weight, skip the guesswork and get weight loss by HEMS. HEMS offers access to an affordable range of FDA-approved GLP-1 medications that now include the Wigovie pill at its lowest price ever and the Wigovie pen plus lifestyle tips to support you along the way. I've got a lifestyle tip. Use the pen or the pills (laughs) and you're just saying, you know, it's like, oh boy, you got some tips? Yeah, this magic (beep) drug. That's a tip. Through HEMS, everything happens online. 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Who learned about what rocking is, you're going to see it everywhere. Yeah, I did it, I joked aside, jokes aside, jokes aside, weekend, coincidentally, coincidentally. I bought two weighted vest at the target, one for me, one for my buddy Spencer, we threw on those weighted vest, we walked all around. Isn't it the best? It's great, because you're on a walk and you're still tired at the end. Yes, and then you take it off and you kind of feel like you fly for a second. Yes, yes, you're like, boy, I've never been so high up off the ground, but for this vest being gone. And so for my show, we just have a friend on and we give them a weighted vest and we go on a walk along the LA River, and we play awesome games like Ruck Mary Kill, stuck between a Ruck in a hard place, and what do you look for in a Ruck buddy? Wait, does only the guests have the vest? Do you have a vest? We don't have them. We even make that. No, we actually, we even make sure the cameraman wears a vest, and you can't see him. He has to walk backwards to film the show. He's very a camera. Yeah, it's amazing. Shout out Trevor. Hey Trevor, shout out to you for being forced to wear a vest for no reason whatsoever. Why is it called Ruck? I think because of Alan Ruck. Alan Ruck is famous. It's because named after Alan Ruck. That's of course what it is. The Ferris viewers say, oh, yeah. It's so funny though, because Rucking is either like for like middle aged women like recommended by their doctors to like keep things for bone density, or it's like ex-marines doing the hardest workout you've ever seen trying to make it harder. I would say that in Los Angeles, there is a strong overlap in the Venn diagram between middle aged women and ex-marines, because if you're in a gym class in Los Angeles and you look around and you only see guys, it's actually not going to be so hard. If you look around, if you look around and you see 12 of the pointiest fucking women you've ever seen in your life, and then like one guy, you're like, this is going to be the hardest workout in the state of California as a rule of thumb. I started taking 80s dance with my girlfriend on Fridays. It's like a beginner hip hop 80s themed workout class and it's my favorite. No marines there. Hey, you have a one person show at the Hollywood fringe. Yes. It's a, it's a, it's a, "Directed by Meet your Jew Hari" friend of the show. Yes, love Meetress so much, she's brilliant. Do you have any revelations about yourself as you are writing it? Yeah, I mean, it's a solo show about my life, so I do feel like revelations were a big part of the writing process. It's so wonderful. I'm doing it at the LGBT center five times this month. It's called the Magic Computer and it's kind of like I've been having these thoughts around memory and especially as a trans person who looks so different in so many of my past photos. I was having a really hard time reconciling, like acknowledging my past when the person in my pictures reflected everything I spent so long getting away from. What's a bummer is when you try to forget about the past, you lose along with it, all of the lovely people and memories you have along with it and so the idea is kind of this Magic Computer that contains all your past selves, photos of all your eras and it can present it to you in a way that helps you synchronize into one. But I paper mache the computer and the fun way, and the fun way to say it is that I used to be a hot girl and this computer has all my secrets. It's a lot about memory and I've found so much peace with accepting my past and like there's so many of these photos I never used to be able to look at and now I'm able to look at them so peacefully and like with love and my hope when people leave the show is just that they kind of maybe want to go back and look at that photo album era of a time they weren't really kind of themselves and kind of maybe look at it with with nicer eyes. That's so nice because you know my now husband, we're saying husband is trans and we have a picture of Ari as a girl in our living room and I think it did take them time to get to the place where it was like hey that's just a fun picture of me that I like to point to people when they come in and so when we have friends come over to the house for the first time and we're sitting at it and I was like well there's me as a girl, that's me as a girl. That's me as a girl, you know. It's on the coffee table. And I think a lot of the like a thesis in it too is that there's no guidebook for how to react to pre-transition photos. Well there are guidebooks but they say stop doing this, this is all wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but then it's interesting because I talk to so many trans friends about memory and it's like it makes you feel like you don't you're not allowed to have access to your own past anymore. Like even my closest friends who are so loving, I'll show them a picture of me because fun fact I was prom queen. And like if I show this photo of me of like long hair, feminine and address and heels, even my most loving friends, their reaction is like they don't know what to do. And I kind of wanted to like lead the charge like by example of like how we can react to these things normally. And I say in the show that like the only person that's ever reacted properly is a dentist named Phil and one time we were out on like a bar crawl in Scottsdale, Arizona. And I was so nervous for him to see my license. I was like clutching it to my chest because the photo is me and I'm like 16 years old. And I showed it to a bouncer and I didn't grab it back in time and filling for it and he just goes, oh my gosh, I look so different too. And he held his card out next to mine. And we just kind of giggled together about how we both look different because everyone looks different as we grow up. And I think normalizing we look different sometimes it's sometimes it's a gender swap, sometimes it's 15 pounds, like it's all the same. And I think the more we can learn to look back kinder and accept each other and like all our shapes and forms, the more like empathetic we can be together and like less stigmatized about looking different. Yeah. I do think sometimes there's a way in which conversations around trans issues for some valid reasons. I think some kind of, I don't know, hold over reasons. It's really kept separate, right, and even like, oh, these are photos, I don't know how to process these photos. And I think about photos of a relationship you were no longer in. What do you do with, forget the photo, what do you do with those memories, right? What do you do with a period of your life that you don't feel totally at ease with inside of which you had great experiences that you don't want to not think about? And you know what you do? You get tickets to the Magic Computer at the Los Angeles LGBT Center this June. And there's a code, right, for the tickets. Yes, I would love to give code, love it to anyone listening for some discounted tickets. HollywoodFringe.org. So go check out the show. Oh my gosh, wait, I had one funny bit, obviously it's like, we are to talk about your own show. So I just had two reviews I was hoping you could read really quick. So I have them right here, so you could read this one and then swipe. If you know, Kel, from their videos online, you're familiar with their brand of wholesome silly humor. But this show expands in those jokes in a wonderfully heartfelt, vulnerable way. Kel has an amazing knack for making everyone feel like a friend of theirs. And this production showcase is that beautifully. The Magic Computer helps Kel process their journey of gender discovery and in turn, Kel, helps us the audience to feel joy, whimsy, empathy, and to laugh really, really, really hard. What I liked, I liked that the seats had cushions. It really helped. So those were two reviews I just thought if you're like on the fence. Cushion seats. I mean, we metron I worked really hard on getting cushions on those seats. You got to get, you got to get me got to people got to feel comfortable in every way, you know, physically, psychologically, socially, mentally, you know, you know, that butt wise, butt wise. We'll be right back. Hey, don't go anywhere, there's more of Love it or Leave it coming up. Love or leave it brought to you by AG one. Summer is for loosening up. Okay, then things slide a little. That's the point. fun, but you can still cover your nutritional bases this season without putting a damper on summer fun with AG1, just one scoop plus eight ounces of water every morning. AG1 is a daily health drink with a multivitamin pre-improbiotic superfoods and antioxidants, one scoop, eight ounces of water. The next gen formula delivers 75 plus ingredients back by four clinical trials clinically shown to support gut health, fill common nutrient gaps and improve key nutrient levels within three months. Late nights, long weekends, spontaneous plans, life happens. AG1 helps you keep one thing consistent, high quality nutritional support every single day, no matter when or where you start your morning. AG1 is great. If it's right into your routine, you can have it every morning and know you've got your vitamins, you've got your probiotics, you've got all the things you need. It took some today. Wow. Took some. Took some. I put a little AG on my smoothie before I go. AG1 in the smoothie. It's great. Great. Drink AG1.com/loveit to get a free morning person hat and a free AG1 flavor sampler in your welcome kit with your first AG1 subscription. It's an $82 value. That's drinkag1.com/loveit. Amber back. It's pride. We all know what pride it's about telling everyone who isn't us how to live. To help, Kell is going to propose some new rules and regulations in a segment. We call, they, they, them, the rules. Kell will tell Michael and me our new rule. We will decide if we disagree with the new rule or if we agree that, hey, they, them, the rules. And we all, if we do all agree, it is binding. KELSEK Permanent. KELSEK Permanent. KELSEK Permanent. KELSEK Permanent. I should have done more LA grocery store jokes, those killed. Michael I regret saying that therapy is "over" because I personally stopped going. I immediately yelled at Michael Yuri about the Spanish flu. I was there for that. Hey, Kell, I replied to you telling me about an 80's dance class with my classic host response of "wow". "Wow". Why did I try to inject doubt into going to the library? Yeah. I mean, I like that I want the libraries to see, I like the library, but it's not like, it's not like the library's not a business where they're like, oh no, they didn't, people didn't borrow enough books. No, it is, though. What happens if we don't borrow enough books? They get less funding. What? And then the third libraries or third spaces for everyone to enjoy. Well, we have to talk off part about this. I want the libraries. I'm so short of the library. Somebody's like clicking how many people go in. I don't know the true inter-mechanics, but I know we should all be supporting the public library. Yeah. And that's how you get an applause break. I explained the plot of "Superman 2" a film that came out in 1980. Who is this show for? I was surprised when you said "Superman 2" because I was like, aren't they on "Superman" like 50? Do you have any regrets? Um, um, uh, any regrets. Just that I had probably 500 more "They Them's the Rules" we could have gotten to. Yeah. I had one, I was thinking for you. Just a personalized "They Them's the Rule". Let's hear it. Not a "They Them's the Rule". Just a rule for me. No, a second thought for you. Oh, great. What do you think it should be? I was thinking that it's actually okay to just take the question, "Who would you want to have dinner with?" "Dead or alive at face value?" That is. That it's okay to kind of just let that one be a "get to know you" question. But see, then I guess you don't really want to get to know me because this is how. If you ask me that question. I wouldn't want a lot about you. Right, you've certainly gotten to know me, right? Is what's better? I don't know, Willie Nelson. But I think the problem was you asked Michael. And then I injure up to. Right, I actually never got to. Did he ever say anybody? I did, and that would be my regret. I said, "When you asked me who I would want to have dinner with, "Dead or alive," I said, "John Love It Dead." Right, that's what it was. I was scared. But the truth is, I don't want to. Oh! And that's our show. Michael, you're in "Keldbright." Thank you all for being here. 36 days until the midterm elections. We back on Friday with Jay Fowler, exact record. Love it or leave it as a crooked media production. Our show is produced by Kendra James Filmograph, Kelsey Gante, and me, John Love It. Our production team includes Halle Keeper, Sarah Lazarus, David Tolls, Claudia Shang, Jay Banks, Gavin Purcell, and Matt DeGroat. 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