Go back

Bonus #198 - Derek Gaines and Pockets Graham [PATREON PREVIEW]

7m 15s

Bonus #198 - Derek Gaines and Pockets Graham [PATREON PREVIEW]

The speaker describes a concerning shift in their friendship with a long-time friend who, despite growing up together, now frequently brings up car sales and pre-owned vehicles during casual conversations. This behavior, which includes detailed financial discussions and persistent sales pitches, is seen as inappropriate and disrespectful, especially given their deep history and mutual trust. The speaker suspects the friend is emotionally invested in his job as a used car salesman, possibly due to personal struggles or a need for validation, and feels that the friend is projecting his work environment onto their relationship, viewing them as a target. The speaker argues that this undermines genuine friendship and calls for direct confrontation. They propose setting firm boundaries by refusing to buy a car from the friend in the future, even joking about doing so through a deliberate, mocking purchase. Ultimately, the situation is framed as a personal lesson in self-respect and the importance of protecting one’s relationships from persistent, boundary-crossing behavior. The speaker believes that standing up for oneself in this instance is not only justified but necessary for maintaining healthy, authentic friendships.

Transcription

1495 Words, 7298 Characters

English
hey stav hey eldest hello renowned guest uh got a bit of a weird uh situation going on he's zany a little help so um a little context um there's this guy uh me and him have been friends since elementary school uh we grew up a little bit together play video games and everything together and where's this going we're both in our mid-20s now and he uh he recently started working at a car dealership um you know and that's fine and dandy uh but now every time that me and him have a conversation or we hang out or any or play games together i'm noticing the conversations are starting to lean towards uh him asking me if i've ever thought about trading in my car if i've ever thought about buying a new car that's so that's funny he's bringing work home i did the kick in the can down the road thing where i just told him like oh you know if i ever do uh you know i'm gonna be able to do that and he's like oh yeah i'm gonna be able to do that i'll come to you you know he's like i love my super but now crazy things too every time he brings up the topic he starts bringing up numbers um the most recent time he was like you know i could probably you know get you out of your car and get you into a pre-owned so like this homie joined a cult this is insane it's um i'm not you deserve a mercedes uh i uh normally would just let this die out but he's a car call uh and it doesn't seem like he's gonna be leaving this job anytime i kind of wonder what's the what would you suggest what do you think i can do to kind of he's like i don't want a fucking minicooper yeah shut the fuck up dude i don't want a lexus rx i mean that's insane that's like he's saying it's like his best like a good friend of his they went to elementary school it would be like if you every time i talk to you tried to sell me a car like the fact that he's nervous to say this is kind of weird to me because when you're talking about a friend this long and this old it's like both listen to the podcast like shut the fuck up yeah no you're right you're right and this is we can listen our caller you can hear it he's he doesn't seem like a like a confrontational guy don't sound like as he's saying it it looks like he it sounds like he's looking over his shoulder yeah so i don't know if it's a thing yeah so this is a moment for you this is a this is a moment in your life to learn how to stand up for yourself yeah and not take bullshit because if you can't tell your best friend to stop trying to sell me a car pre-owned car every time you hang out a certified pre-owned then you can't then how are you going to tell like an authority figure to you know respect you or something like that i have how about this if he doesn't stop fuck his girlfriend wow he doesn't have the balls he doesn't have that in him i don't like that that's some dog shit to do but shit i'll never tell you about a pre-owned lexus yeah no that's the bronx way right there i mean this is i mean it's this is just such weird behavior it's not real friendship bro it's not and i think all you have to say is like dude shut the fuck up yeah because it sounds like he's never called him out on anything i don't want a car right now and if you keep asking me about it when i do get one i promise it won't be from you yeah what you say is like look we're friends you seem to really like this job and look part of this probably is somebody we all have a friend who like really gets into something yeah right whether it's their job a relationship a hobby and this guy happens to as fucking pathetic as it is love being a used car salesman right this makes him feel alive very 80s of him right and so and so all you can and like maybe it could just be him being and look the other thing is he might be struggling at work and they're like well go to the i remember when i was a fucking i was a telemarketer and they're like well call people you know and i'm like i don't want to sell people i know a mortgage are you crazy like what the fuck is wrong i never sold a single thing by the way oh you would seem like you would be an awesome telemarketer bro i just i mean we were pulling a scan it was a okay that's what most it was called american government mortgage it was literally designed to trick old people into thinking the american government was calling them about their mortgage god damn right so so the fact that i didn't do anything i feel like rob no no you know what i mean like i was like i did the good thing by being a horrible employee by accident but um this guy might just be too into his shit he also might be struggling at work and like really needing a win it also sounds like his first job my yeah it might be like a job he's excited about whatever yeah but a used car salesman is i know pretty crazy and then talking in numbers after a while when you're just hanging out with your boy and he's bringing up apr and shit like for fucking yeah like warranties and then two years the first three-year leases yeah that's weird and i can tell you what that is how i would handle it i would just be like dude you are fucking annoying me right stuff i appreciate and look you can even be like look i appreciate you letting me know the deals if i were looking at for a car we could have this conversation but also and this is the other thing you'd say also it feels like you're relating to me like a used car salesman you're trying to tell me i don't feel like i'll be honest with you when you first got this job i felt like you might even hook me up because we're boys now i feel like you see me as a used car salesman and i feel like you're relating to me like a used car salesman as a fucking mark yeah you see me as an easy as easy an easy fucking tally mark for your boss and it's pissing me the fuck off far that you've you've turned our relationship into this how he's giving him the information is like you're selling me like if you want to do me a favor that's different totally if you're like or if you're like listen i know you've liked a whatever car right like you fucking pontiac fire i got i rock z28 yeah i know you've wanted an infinity since we were children yeah right we just got one that's perfect whatever like i can't like i'll let you get in on it before we put it out in the pub i got the hookup dog i got you the hookup come on i could fucking trade it in like and i'd tell i would handle it be like dude you're being fucking weird and annoying you're putting your fucking pathetic job in front of our friendship and if i will literally say like if you continue this i will i will on purpose not buy a car from you i you are losing a sale put it in those terms because he at least understands that right now when i want a car i'll come to you if you keep talking to him about this i will buy a fucking car from car max before i buy and pull up to your house and yes exactly which is girl in the passenger seat yeah yeah yeah i'll be getting your bitch in a in a nissan sentra that i bought 500 over sticker price just to piss you off right and so that's that's how i would personally straight up and down with driving gloves oh the fingerless gloves just to fucking spite you that's how i would handle it my friend and yes look that's great this is an opportunity to stand up for yourself talk your shit stop god damn it

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The friend frequently brings up car sales and pre-owned vehicles during conversations, despite being a long-time, close friend.
  2. The speaker finds it inappropriate and disrespectful that the friend continuously tries to sell them a car, especially in casual settings.
  3. The behavior suggests the friend is overly invested in his job as a used car salesman, possibly due to personal struggles or a need for validation.
  4. The speaker believes the friend is projecting his work environment onto their friendship, viewing them as a "tally mark" or easy target.
  5. The repetitive focus on car details like APRs, leases, and warranties feels inauthentic and undermines the trust of their bond.
  6. The speaker suggests setting clear boundaries by directly stating they will not buy a car from the friend if the behavior continues.
  7. A humorous, defiant response—like buying a car from CarMax or a specific model to mock the situation—is proposed as a way to assert boundaries.
  8. The situation serves as a lesson in standing up for oneself and protecting personal relationships from unwanted influence.

Summary:

The speaker describes a concerning shift in their friendship with a long-time friend who, despite growing up together, now frequently brings up car sales and pre-owned vehicles during casual conversations. This behavior, which includes detailed financial discussions and persistent sales pitches, is seen as inappropriate and disrespectful, especially given their deep history and mutual trust. The speaker suspects the friend is emotionally invested in his job as a used car salesman, possibly due to personal struggles or a need for validation, and feels that the friend is projecting his work environment onto their relationship, viewing them as a target.

The speaker argues that this undermines genuine friendship and calls for direct confrontation. They propose setting firm boundaries by refusing to buy a car from the friend in the future, even joking about doing so through a deliberate, mocking purchase. Ultimately, the situation is framed as a personal lesson in self-respect and the importance of protecting one’s relationships from persistent, boundary-crossing behavior.

The speaker believes that standing up for oneself in this instance is not only justified but necessary for maintaining healthy, authentic friendships.

FAQs

It may indicate that he's deeply invested in his job as a used car salesman and is using the topic as a way to connect or gain confidence, even when it feels intrusive.

While occasional mentions can be harmless, constant references to car trading or buying, especially with specific numbers and pricing, may suggest a shift in the dynamic that feels disrespectful or awkward.

Be direct and firm, such as saying, 'I appreciate your interest, but I don’t want to talk about cars right now,' to set clear boundaries without escalating tension.

Yes, it may point to emotional investment or insecurity in his job, where he feels the need to demonstrate value or success through sales conversations.

Humor can work briefly, but if the topic persists, it's better to address it directly, as humor may not resolve underlying discomfort or disrespect in friendship.

Yes, it’s valid to assert your boundaries, such as saying you’ll buy from another dealership, to show that his behavior is affecting your comfort and trust.

Chat with AI

Loading...

Pro features

Go deeper with this episode

Unlock creator-grade tools that turn any transcript into show notes and subtitle files.