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Bonus #181 - Live Call Show Vol. 41 [PATREON PREVIEW]

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Bonus #181 - Live Call Show Vol. 41 [PATREON PREVIEW]

The conversation explores the idea of switching from a car to a motorcycle as a daily commute, especially in a car-heavy city with poor public transit. While the speaker acknowledges the appeal of motorcycles as symbols of freedom and rebellion, they strongly caution against using them as a practical alternative due to significant safety risks, particularly from car collisions. The discussion highlights personal vulnerabilities—like a past injury from a scooter fall—that could make daily motorcycle use dangerous and disruptive. The main argument is that the desire to own a motorcycle may stem from a need for identity transformation rather than genuine practicality. The speaker recommends taking a safety course, trying short-term symbolic gestures (like wearing a leather jacket), and reflecting on one’s real life needs before committing. Though motorcycles are appreciated as a hobby or leisure activity, they should not replace daily transportation. The dialogue balances admiration for the lifestyle with realistic concerns about risk, personal resilience, and the emotional motivations behind such a decision. Ultimately, the advice is cautious: embrace the symbolic side, but prioritize safety, practicality, and self-awareness over the fantasy of becoming a "motorcycle guy."

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- Well, so my thing is, Stavvy, I'll just get into it. Yeah, I'm driving my car, I get it, I'm stocks myself, whatever. - We can appreciate that, it appreciate that. It's car city, it public transit sucks here. And gas prices, as you know, we're on the rise. I've pretty much presented having a car since I got one. I'm just like, I feel like I just have to. - Of course. And, but I'm thinking, I'm 33, I quit drinking, I'm taking a break from weed, and I started really getting fascinated with the idea of getting a motorcycle. And I know. - Hold on. Can I just say, there needs to be a 90 day moratorium after a breakup, where a man is not allowed to even think about buying a motorcycle. 'Cause what you're describing is, what you're describing is like, the early onset divorced guy behavior. 'Cause this isn't a divorce, it's a breakup. I don't know how serious it was. Was it pretty serious or no? - Yeah, yeah. - So yeah, it was, you know, no, it was, it was a six month, and you know, it was, I've still got some work to do, you know, I'm in therapy, but I kind of reflecting on it. I was like, oh, I'm in it. I kind of wanted to have a partner more than I care about who it was. So we got along, that was good, but it was kind of, you know, it wasn't really, it was very exciting. But, you know, nothing against there or anything. - Sure, I'm sure. - Yeah. So, yeah. - So you think about a motorcycle? - Yeah, you know. - Well speaking, speaking as a 30 year man in his late 30s, who just fell off a lime scooter and broke his arm. I'm gonna say don't do it. (laughing) - Okay. For a speaker's guy who just had a two wheel motor, now it's a scooter or motorcycle, no, but it is a two wheeled, you know, mechanism. I just do think the, now you've done some research, isn't the statistics on like motorcycle actions, like really bad? - You know, it's, it's bad if you're, it's a lot worse if you're a young person and/or you're somebody who's not being careful, you know, but also the statistics are honestly, the biggest problem is cars not seeing you and hitting you. Like that is like fine bars. - Hold on, hold on. You know you will be on roads with cars, right? - Yes. - Fucking dead. - Yeah, I don't care whose fault it is. I'm just saying whether you die or not. You're like, yeah, but people are saying, you know, going to war, it's actually the bullets that kill you. It's like, okay. So he gives a fucking still. You still die and fucking cares. Whatever. - I never enough. - Yeah. - So yeah, you're talking about like whose fault it is. I'm talking about will you survive or not? Basically, my main question is versus a car. And by the way, when you say it's young people, I think that's, it's a little bit about you, the recklessness of youth, but it's also being an inexperienced motorcycleist, which I don't know if you've shown them your whole life. - I know, no, and I haven't, I'm not going to buy one. I'm going to take the safety course first, where you get to practice on one and you do a lot of learning and, you know. - I think taking the safety course is fine either way. Maybe this is something you need to scratch some weird itch. But I would say do this statistic, look up the statistics of in a fucking, in a motorcycle versus like just a good regular car. - A RAV4, we're big RAV4 fans here. Statistics of motorcycle versus a RAV4 or whatever. And see, I just think it's the risks of motorcycles, aren't worth it as your day to day shit. But I don't think there's anything wrong with being the, I think motorcycles are fucking cool. And I don't say anything wrong with, you know, even being a hobbyist or taking even, you know, the guys like to do long rides, but they're on like these scenic, you know. - That's what I was, that's what I honestly was picturing, you know, 'cause honestly, I work at a place where I can take our shitty, you know, kind of bi-directional transit system to my job, you know, and so I don't even really drive that much during the week. So yeah, let me tell you this though. - Let me tell you this though. - The open roads, yeah. - I would say, you, the way you have couched this question is you hate cars, so what, you know, so let's switch to motorcycles. That's not really even what you're talking about here, because if you're talking about, you're gonna be taking, you're gonna be taking, first of all, switching to a motorcycle doesn't make it any less of a car city that you live in, right? - Of course. - And you're saying I can take public transit. That's fine. You're basically saying public transit and a motorcycle together equal a car, and they don't. It's a different thing, you know? Like, you look, a motorcycle. Like, I think daily, using a, my point was, I'm not against owning a motorcycle or ever riding one. I just think, I think it's cool to have, when you have, I see them as a luxury item or like a, when you have extra income, you become a guy who buys a motorcycle and you ride for leisure, leisure, or you do it almost like, you just like it as a piece of engineering. I get that more and more. The more, I was never a big car guy motorcycle guy that's just not the type of stuff I get. But there are people who love cars as a, like, you know, they're just marvels of engineering or whatever. And okay, fine. If that's your version of appreciating art, essentially it's someone who thinks art is gay, but you're able to talk about silhouettes and no one's gonna call you a homo, basically, is part of being a car guy, or even a motorcycle guy. So that's my perspective on them is motorcycles. I don't think they should be your fucking day-to-day transit. If you're saying, can I in a non-car city replace my car with a motorcycle and feel good? Can a motorcycle be my daily driver? My answer is probably no. My gut reaction is no for statistical safety reasons. But at the same time, I do plenty of shit that statistically is going to kill me, right? Like I'm a hypocrite in many ways. My diet, the amount of, the sheer amount of edibles, I've been, I mean, the molecules of THC and my system, the last two minutes of THC, I had to put it on pause. I just started taking 30 milligrams, like there were 10 milligrams, and I was like, yeah, no. Yeah, no, it's tough. And I don't want to talk about the milligrams I'm on, 'cause I will sound like one of those, remember growing up, there's a weird kid who lied about how much drugs they did? Yes, yes. No, you didn't take, you didn't take 40 tabs of acid. We know you didn't do that. When I talk about the amount of the amount of edibles that elders can't describe, you've seen me take this amount of it. I'm at the, I'm over 100 a day right now, right? Which is a tough place to be. Beautiful. I love that for you. I don't know how tough the good man is. It's not good. The thing is, it doesn't get me that high. I just am scared of the amount of putting, I'm like, wait, I've been doing this for like so many days in a row that it's just can't be good for you. It just can't. Taking anything intoxicating to these levels, there's many days in a row. There's no way it's positive. I'll put it that way. Maybe it's not negative. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. That my point, I should write a motorcycle as little as possible if and when I get one, it's basically. Let's take the safety course. What I'm saying is take the safety course. You, like I said, this is sort of divorce the behavior, you know, and I'm sure it's like, I do also cut off my, I had a ponytail and got out short hair cut recently. You doing things backwards, you're doing things backwards, dude. You need up that ponytail for the motor. If you don't, if you're telling me, I'll grow ponytail to ride a motorcycle. And I was like, and it's hot as fucking this helmet. Maybe I should cut my hair. So I am sort of, I don't know. I've been, it's fucking guys hanging his whole life on. He's changing his entire life around a hobby. He hasn't even experienced yet. You're changing your entire life for something you're imagining. So look, I would say, take the safety course. This is just you wanting to be a different guy, by the way, because the motorcycle symbolizes a type of rough individual masculinity that you don't possess right now, that you're jealous of. And so it's more symbolism than anything. You want to feel and look, you want people to see you and see fucking James Dean in rebel without a cause. You know what I mean? There's a little bit of, there's a little bit of that. There's, I do think there is some, I think that's a, but listen, that's a big part of everything we do, right? So I'm not, again, I'm not, I'm not knocking you for it. I'm just saying, uh, let's look at the dangers of the thing of the, you're basically, you want to transform yourself to a different type of guy. And I'm just saying, let's look at the, it's basically like, let's go, let's talk to a therapist before transitioning. And I'm not saying you, I'm not saying you shouldn't transition into a, a, a motorcycle guy. But let's make sure there aren't other solutions first because you know what I mean, because what you're, so, so anyway, I get that's sort of how I see motorcycles. And again, I understand there's people who, and you're like, oh, but if you're safe, it's like, I get that. But again, I just fell off a scooter and it ruined, I'm rich and a scooter injury has ruined my life, dude. I have so many resources and it's still fucked me up compared to a normal person. So I would just say, think about how, okay, what does your life look like if out of, under no fault of your own, you know, by the way, the roads in Saint Lewis suck dick. Like the roads are bad. You hit a pothole or some fucking asshole in a car swore who's the real problem. Swarves and hits you. No fault of your own. You get hit. You break your fucking leg. You know what I'm saying? What does your life look like with a fucking broken leg? How do you navigate your day to day life? Cause I can tell you as a guy with just simply a, I called my fucking, I needed my mom. I was so lucky that I had this happen in Baltimore. Cause I had my, one of my best friends in my mom. Like I had my best friend drive me around, get, help me get to my doctor's appointments. My, I had to travel from, uh, I had to go to the movie. I had to pack up. I couldn't pack a suitcase the first, the first week I broke my arm. I had my mom pack my fucking suitcase. Like I was a little kid going to a basketball school. Yeah. I hear. Yeah. So that's what I do live alone. So yeah. If you actually were married ironically or had the greater support system, I'm just saying, this is, I can't believe how like fucking how truly unkind mode this, this advice is, uh, but yeah. I really, I would like, yeah. Because I've just gone through it. I would say think about that unfortunately. I guess, yeah, I called the wrong person the wrong time. You called me a month ago. I would do like, nice, get a leather jacket. You can push on the motorcycle. But now I'm fucking, dude, I'm, I'm, I'm fucking Mr. Safety now. And I'm, I'm like, I would just hear about it. Yeah. I'm, I'm here to tell you the exact opposite hurts. God. There we go. Get on that motorcycle. Get on that leather jacket. Look fucking awesome. Of course, you're going to feel awesome. This is, this is, this year, he's gets to do you going to the army. This is you going to the way he cuvts be the symbolism of the motorcycle guy. You covered the symbolism of the army guy. You come, you covered discipline all this because you had none. And this guy wants to be cool, easy rider because he's a fucking dork probably. He was probably a dork a fantasy dork with it. What kind of ponytail guy were you? Are you into like magic, the gathering? I start. No, I did start collecting and then gave up on collecting Pokemon cards. I mean, probably we'll just tell you what kind of. I mean, I mean, the Pokemon card collected a motorcycle guy pipeline. If this isn't a dork trying to be cool, I don't know what the fuck it is, eldest. The same way you go to the armies of fucking a pussy trying to be tough. This is a dork trying to be cool. I think, I think if I think if you get this motorcycle, you will, you will grow as a person. Okay. There you go. Fine. Two, two different types of rice decide who you want to listen to. That's fine. Right on. Right on. I guess. Yeah. I appreciate that. That is the beauty of these columns. We often give you two. You guys have both given me a lot to chew on. There you go, bro. And I was drinking an NW diet. Well, you're free when I call you. The good shit. Shut up to them. You turned me on that. You just said that in my fucking mouth, started watering out. Just can you get me one actually now that he said it. Thanks, man. It hurts. It hurts. It hurts. Got it. At the very least, shave yourself a goatee and see how you feel. And then look at shaving the awesome goatee. Look in the mirror. See how you feel. And that's your answer right there. No, no, here's what you do. You buy, you either buy or rent a leather jacket. Shave a goatee into your face. Take the safety course. While while you're taking the safety course, wear the leather jacket to bars with your goatee and your new short hair. See if doing that for one week scratches the itch. And you're like, that was fun. I larped as a fucking motorcycle guy for a week. And I got out of my system crack before me. Okay. Thank you. I guess I'll give that a shot. Last time I had a goatee, it did not look good. So maybe that's my answer. Yeah. Well, there you go, man. Sorry. I have to shout because I have one arm. Maybe, maybe I need to get a motorcycle because every time I've shaved a goatee myself, it has looked fucking awesome. To the point where the fuck are you going to find what it was ever a movie where King Kong rode a motorcycle and you can borrow that. Where the fuck are you going to find a motorcycle? They make some big ass hog. That's the reason, like I wouldn't need one so big. You would need such a hilariously. Fuck it. You're six six three hundred fucking pounds. You think they just make motorcycles for you? I'm six five. I'm six five eldest. You got me beat by one inch. But there you go, baby. Yeah, works. Yeah. Well, that's an even that's even more hilarious. You're fucking six five. And you need a motorcycle to feel cool. God, I'm talking to two fucking tall losers right now, dude. You guys fucking stink. Both of you don't listen to you. You don't have a fucking brother. You ain't know this. I don't care what you fucking do on your motorcycle. Let's offline show me some, some motorcycles you're considering. I'm kind of curious. Yeah. Hell, you and others are going to start our town motorcycles. I'm talking to the future admins of our tall motorcycle riders, tall bikers, tall bikers, dude. Well, you guys will workshop the name. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, good luck, buddy. We're rooting for you. Thanks. Love it. Love it. Yeah. And keep us updated. Keep us updated. Yeah, let us know if you get up. Get up. All right. See ya, brother.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The speaker expresses skepticism about using a motorcycle as a daily mode of transportation in a car-dominated city, citing safety risks and the higher likelihood of accidents due to cars not seeing motorcycles.
  2. They emphasize that while motorcycles are seen as cool or symbolic of rebel masculinity, the decision to own one may stem more from a desire for identity transformation than practical necessity.
  3. A key concern is the real-world impact of injury—such as a broken arm from a scooter fall—highlighting how accidents can severely disrupt daily life and independence, especially for someone living alone.
  4. The conversation suggests that before investing in a motorcycle, one should take a formal safety course and consider how personal changes (like haircuts or goatees) might reflect deeper psychological or social motivations.
  5. The speaker warns against idealizing motorcycle riding as a lifestyle choice without acknowledging the risks, especially for inexperienced riders or young, reckless individuals.
  6. A recurring theme is the contrast between symbolic aspirations (like James Dean-style rebellion) and practical realities of urban living and safety.
  7. The discussion recommends testing the idea through a short-term experience—like wearing a leather jacket and going to bars—to see if it satisfies a personal itch without long-term commitment.
  8. Ultimately, the advice is cautious

Summary:

The conversation explores the idea of switching from a car to a motorcycle as a daily commute, especially in a car-heavy city with poor public transit. While the speaker acknowledges the appeal of motorcycles as symbols of freedom and rebellion, they strongly caution against using them as a practical alternative due to significant safety risks, particularly from car collisions. The discussion highlights personal vulnerabilities—like a past injury from a scooter fall—that could make daily motorcycle use dangerous and disruptive.

The main argument is that the desire to own a motorcycle may stem from a need for identity transformation rather than genuine practicality. The speaker recommends taking a safety course, trying short-term symbolic gestures (like wearing a leather jacket), and reflecting on one’s real life needs before committing. Though motorcycles are appreciated as a hobby or leisure activity, they should not replace daily transportation.

The dialogue balances admiration for the lifestyle with realistic concerns about risk, personal resilience, and the emotional motivations behind such a decision.

FAQs

No, it's not recommended. The main risk comes from cars not seeing motorcycles, especially in busy urban areas. Statistics show that the danger is significantly higher than driving a car like a RAV4, making it unsafe for daily commuting.

They should first take a formal motorcycle safety course to learn proper handling and road rules. This helps build confidence and reduces risk, especially for inexperienced riders.

Not realistically. Even though motorcycles are more fuel-efficient, the safety risks and the difficulty of navigating poor road conditions make them unsuitable as a daily driver in most cities.

Yes—many associate motorcycles with rebellion, freedom, and a rugged, independent masculinity. This can be a way to transform one's identity or feel more confident, even if it's not a practical choice.

Motorcycle riders are much more vulnerable to traffic accidents, especially when cars don't see them. The risk of being hit is significantly higher, and injuries can be severe or life-altering.

Yes—motorcycles can be excellent for leisure, scenic rides, or as a symbol of personal freedom. They are best enjoyed as a hobby when used safely and not as a primary mode of transport.

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