Bolsonaro declares himself 'Brazil's leader'

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So, before AI wipes out all of humanity? Allegedly. Join us for the interface. Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Charlotte Gallagher, and in the early hours of Thursday, the 29th of October, these are our main stories. The defeated candidate in Brazil's election, Flavia Bolsonaro, claims he's the country's true leader after fleeing a money laundering case to the US. Spain's Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez says the investigation into a deadly rail crash in Madrid will establish where the negligence played a role, and police in Indonesia fired tear gas to disperse demonstrators protesting against the government's handling of ongoing forest fires. Also in this podcast, why short films are booming? And there are opportunities sometimes to, you know, safely put your hands on one, but it's when it's next to the boat, you're tagging it, you can reach near the door, so and I just see her like reaching for the head, and I'm like, oh no. A close encounter with a great white shark on a fishing trip goes viral. Flavia Bolsonaro appears to be following in his father's footsteps, losing an election to President Lula, fleeing to the US, and now declaring himself Brazil's true leader. The defeated right-wing candidate is under investigation in Brazil for alleged corruption and money laundering, which he denies. In his first statement since arriving in Miami, Mr. Bolsonaro made allegations of electoral fraud without evidence, calling himself a victim of a coup and political persecution. Our reporter in Miami, Luis Fajardo, told me there's no evidence to back up the claims. The results have been very substantially in favor of Lula. He had more than four million votes more than Bolsonaro, and also electoral authorities in Brazil have been also backing up the official results, so there's no evidence for what Bolsonaro is describing. Even members of his own political groups in Brazil, the conservatives, have been saying that they accept the defeat in the election and that Lula has been effectively reelected as President of Brazil. He was meant to surrender his passports, and he didn't. Do we know the details of how he managed to flee Brazil? There have been on-confirmed versions saying that he may have left with Italian passport, Bolsonaro has Italian ancestry, and in any case, he crossed the border of Brazil into neighboring Argentina. From then, he got an airplane which flew initially to Guayaquil and Ecuador, and eventually to Miami. There has been big discussion about the role that Argentina has played in facilitating his fleeing from Brazil. In fact, Bolsonaro, in the statement he issued, he specifically thanks the President of Argentina, right-wing President Javier Milé, as well as President Donald Trump, for facilitating what he calls his move to freedom, escaping what he claims is a persecution against him in Brazil. Given that he's thanking President Trump for this, what kind of strain do you think this could put on the relationship between Brazil and the U.S.? I mean, we know that President Lula and President Trump don't see eye to eye on most things anyway. It is not clear that there's going to be a direct confrontation. President Trump, even though he said that he believed that there had been perhaps irregularities in the Brazilian election, he said he was looking at it and he said that he did not want to intervene directly. So it is not clear that this would lead to a direct break-up between the United States and Brazil. There's also the question of what kind of impact this is going to have with Argentina, where Milé and Lula have also had strong rivalry and strong frictions. But once again, they have large economic interests in common. So it's still not clear exactly what kind of diplomatic consequences this will have. Luis, I was wondering what the Brazilian expats in Miami will think of this, because there's tens of thousands of Brazilians in Miami. Do you think they will be welcoming Flavia Bolsonaro, or are they going to be quite cynical about the whole thing? Well, you can argue that Bolsonaro is going to have a welcome reception in many parts of Florida. Of course, many of the Brazilians in Florida tend to be conservative, although some of them left Brazil because they were not happy with the situation under Lula. And of course, Bolsonaro is not the first Latin American politician to leave his country when he feels that the tide is turning against him. If he decided to stay in Florida, it is not clear what his ultimate destination will be. His brother, for example, lives in Texas. But if he decided to stay around, Florida certainly he will find a lot of people very sympathetic to his case among Brazilians and other Latin Americans in Florida. Luis Fajardo in Miami. The Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez has declared three days of national mourning after two trains collided on Wednesday, killing at least 68 people. Eighteen others are reported to be in a critical condition. After a high-speed train traveling to Seville crashed into a stationery train south of Madrid. The Transport Minister Oscar Puente said the automatic signaling system on the line had failed in the moments before the crash. This man was one of the passengers. When the first impact happened, we didn't really know what it was. Our train had already been stopped for like 10 minutes. But we looked out the window on the left side and we saw that some cables were falling and we saw like some smoke. My dad came from another wagon and he opened the emergency door and he started telling people to get out. There were some wagons that were like tilted sideways and super difficult to like get into. There was people trapped in there with like broken ribs, old a lot of older people that had like low mobility issues and it was hard to see that to be honest. Sarah Reinsford gave me this update from the scene of the crash. There's still a massive recovery operation that I'm watching unfold. I can see big cranes reaching up into the sky, very powerful lights beaming down onto the scene below and it's a completely devastated scene. There's some carriages of a train that are tilting dangerously off a track in one direction and then the remains of other carriages that have broken apart and have cascaded down the embankment in the other direction. And we've been seeing emergency vehicles come and go. We've seen a funeral van passing by. We understand that there are sniffer dogs here and we've been watching a giant crane cut its way through the remains of one carriage opening it up like a tin can and we understand they are looking still for any more victims who may be amongst all of this wreckage and this debris. And watching the survivors talk about what happened and reading their accounts, it sounds absolutely terrifying and it was also over in just minutes as well. Yeah, because there was a stationery train and then suddenly a huge bang and that train was shunted with such force that people were sent flying, suitcases were sent flying and carriages were then derailed and tumbled are the embankment at high speed. The train behind we don't know how fast it was traveling but we do know from the transport minister that this section of track is one where high speed trains like the ones involved in this collision can move it up to 200 kilometers an hour. So the one train that was moving was moving extremely quickly when it collided into the train stationery in front of us. This is the worst rail disaster in Europe for many many years and the worst in Spain for well over a decade. But this is the second one in Spain. In less than a year, surely lots of questions now about how this has happened twice. Yeah, lots of questions. I mean, I think at the moment the questions primarily are specifically about how this disaster happened because there was a problem on the line at about 830 and the whole thing was switched into manual mode if you like. So there was a controller back in Madrid that was telling the trains and the drivers on the trains what to do and it seems that a train was instructed that it could restart and go at normal speed even though there was another train stalled on the tracks in front of it and it's not clear why the controller didn't warn the driver of the fast-moving train that there was an obstruction on the liner that he or she should slow down or stop. So real questions about how on earth this particular disaster happened but certainly also questions about why Spain is reeling from its second massive train tragedy in one year. Sarah Reinsford, the train crash could also have political repercussions as Spain. appears for a national vote at the end of next month. Pedro Sanchez called the snap election after mass protests about housing rights in Spain, following the eviction of an elderly woman from her home. Chris Havler Barrett, from the Spanish expat newspaper The Olive Press, says Wednesday's disaster is feeding into wider public concerns about the country. So many spaniards, these issues go hand in hand. This is still a country that very much feels the deep scars from the financial crash of 2008, which derailed progress in this country for a decade. Opponents of Prime Minister Sanchez will point to both of these high-speed train accents this year and say, why have we not invested in the things that are most important to Spain? And do you trust him to make the right decisions if he's re-elected? While Spain has made some real strides to rebound, but still so many issues of day-to-day life, that people are just unable to get the help they need. This remains many sections of the country, an impoverished nation that's unable to help many of those who need help the most. Chris Havler Barrett, now it's a video that has prompted a lot of discussion online this week. That was the moment, a U.S. veteran on a shark-tagging expedition off the coast of Georgia leans over the boat to touch a great white shark on its head. The shark, which has a hook in its mouth, then thrashes around and lunges backward. The company, not lucky-fishing, regularly takes veterans on their expeditions where they help tag, catch and release sharks to collect data for scientific research. The crew said the woman was never in danger and that they had the shark under control, but called the animal's reaction a reminder of the importance of respecting wildlife. Former U.S. Army Ranger Jimmy Armel runs the company and captured that video. He's been speaking to Andrew Peach. There are opportunities sometimes to, you know, safely put your hands on one, but it's when it's next to the boat, you're tagging it, you can reach near the door, and I just see her like reaching for the head and I'm like, "Oh, no." Yeah, reaching randomly for a shark, most people wouldn't do that, right? But did you know why she was tempted to? Well, you have a great white shark next to the boat. It's very magical. There's definitely a vibe that comes with these animals. I mean, they're just so majestic. There really isn't anything like it. And I think sometimes something just comes over people. You know, I don't get in the water recreationally. I'm terrified of the water, but I would love to swim with a white shark one day. These animals do something to some people. Yeah. I mean, the reaction online is really interesting, isn't it? Because it's sort of divided between people who are impressed by her courage, and people who just think she's mad. Yeah, and I mean, it might be a little column A, column B, right? There's nothing like these animals. I mean, you know, this is the huge part of what we do, and you know, it helps a lot of veterans heal. It's a whole lot of fun, you know, and then we get the research to help preserve these beautiful animals for future generations, and then the name of them have to fall in bets and see what that does for the families. It's just a beautiful thing all around. You talked about the magic that people feel being up so close to such a phenomenal creature. Put that into words for me. I'm going to go back to the first time that I saw one. I was sheep sad fishing real close to the beach, and all of a sudden I see this big thing down below the boat. And my head, I'm like, oh, shark. Which is no big deal. We see them all the time. I was like, wait a minute. It's cold out here. It's wintertime. Like, why is it a shark here? There's no sharks. Came up and it was a great white. I thought it was big at the time. It was about eight feet. It turns out that's just a baby though. And it just had zero fear. It circled the boat three times, just very slowly methodically, just kind of seeing what we were doing and then swam off. And then the first time I put one next to the boat, it was a very personal interaction. You know, you're overwhelmed. The first one was about a thousand pounder next to the boat. And you're touching it and you're looking at its eyes and getting the hook out. You know, you're helping it swim off. And just during that whole interaction, it's just the most beautiful feeling you can imagine. It's once again, and it's a very unique thing, right? Not very many people ever catch these because you know, without the proper permitting and stuff, you're not allowed to go catch them. But even if you catch more on accident, that's super rare. People that tag them, that's super rare. But to catch them on rod and reel and tag them. And I mean, most of these vets that come out with this, they're not really fisherman, pretty much all of them don't have a boat or anything. So the opportunity to do something like this is huge. You know, watching the weight get lifted from everybody's face, that'll never get old. Just like watching a great white shark breach in front of you like it's shark week when they, you know, come completely out of the water, right? That'll never get old. Watching veterans, he'll get old and watching great white sharks breach will never get old. That was Jimmy Armal speaking to Andrew Peach. Still to come in this podcast. Margot Robbie originally was at the focus of these storylines back in the '90s. And she could have never ever imagined that decades on, it would be used for a different purpose to make money. We look at the ethics of AI-powered microdramas. But after launch, a devastating floor emerged. National disaster, Hubble launched with Flood Mirror. All ever sayings available now, wherever you get to your BBC podcasts. Yeah, I think that covers it, right? I'm Thomas Germain. 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Indonesia's worsening forest fires have sparked protests in Jakarta and several other cities, with students and activists demanding more urgent action from the government. Police use tear gas and water cannon to disperse crowds in the capital, where demonstrators were calling for the crisis to be declared a national disaster. These protesters were in Jakarta. The government's point of view is often aligned with the interests of business. Not with those ordinary people facing financial problems. That's the root of the problem, and shapes the tone and approach the government takes towards those having to go through these challenges. Young people are demanding that the state fulfill its responsibility for the forest and land fire emergency. Our demands urge both the central and local governments to address the forest and land fires occurring in this republic. Our Global Affairs correspondent Anne Barassan Esarajan explained to Ankara Desai why campaigners are calling for the forest fires to be declared a national disaster, and how the government has responded so far. These forest fires have been going on for months now. Even though these are seasonal, it is the worst in the last 10 years in addition to the impact of the climate pattern El Nino. So you have a vast areas becoming ashes, creating huge amount of haze and causing health issues for people. More than 300,000 people are affected by these respiratory illnesses in those affected areas in Kalimantan and Sumatra Island, and that's why this has triggered anger where thousands of people have been protesting in Jakarta asking the government to intervene and also declare it as a national disaster. So what it means is the government should divert funds from various of the projects particularly for fighting fires, and also they have to give compensation. Then it also exposes the government's inability to control, and that's why the government is hesitating even though with the government. They have sent thousands of firefighters and also providing compensation for people in those areas. And the government is aware that any use of force will trigger more reaction. They saw what happened last year during this similar kind of protests. Now, government is under pressure from within the country also from the neighboring countries. What sort of pressure are they putting on Indonesia? These forests fires are mostly originate mainly because people are clearing forests for cash crop lands. So countries like Singapore and Malaysia, they are really worried because the haze is coming towards their area and affecting people. So Singapore has already won any company linked to this kind of forest clearance. They will be taking legal action. And they have also formed a joint task force within Indonesia to how to tackle this haze. And Malaysia is also complained about these forest fires. Thousands of people are now getting respiratory illnesses, putting pressure on those governments. And that is why those governments are now talking within Indonesia. And there are some atarajan. For many directors, including Steven Spielberg and George Lucas, making a short film played a crucial role in launching their careers. At one time, short films were often seen as a stepping stone for aspiring directors hoping to make full length features. But now as Tom Brook reports, short form storytelling has become a global creative force in its own right. It's patently clear from the multitude of short film festivals around the world that short film storytelling is flourishing. Short films have their own ecosystem, their own online audiences, their own festivals and a strong presence at major world film events. At the recent London Film Festival, more than 80 short films were shown and they covered all kinds of subjects. That will receive eight minute short was Mon Taxi, put together by New York-based Moroccan-born filmmaker Merrin Scrohee. The film is made up of voicemail messages she left for her father after he died. It's about continuing the conversation with my dad after he passed. We see me sharing with dad kind of like my daily life through phone calls that I make for him. It's just from a ritual that him and I used to have because I'm born and raised in Morocco and he still lived there. Merrin was overjoyed when her film was accepted by the London Film Festival. Leaving New York and crossing the Atlantic to attend the festival has been a very exciting chapter in her life. She is now mounting an Oscar campaign for her short film. As are the makers of another short, the British Film Joronto, which also went over well at the London Film Festival. It deals with the issue of so-called age gap relationships. In this instance, between two men separated an age by many years. Short films often deal with subject matter that might be misunderstood or considered controversial, for which it could be difficult to find funding for a full length feature film. The screenplay for Joronto comes from actor Christopher Sherwood, himself involved in an intergenerational relationship. It might help those who look slightly cynically upon such relationships and help them to see it in a different life and not be so judgmental and not be so quick to jump to what are often the wrong conclusions. The documentary Short Calls Listen shows a man recording wildlife to capture sounds he hopes will elicit a response from his mother who has memory loss. Film festivals are keen to showcase the works of short-form storytellers because often what they offer can be unusual and original. Ben Roberts is the chief executive of the British Film Institute. They can play around and they can be experimental and people can try and fail a little bit in short as well. But it's also a very pure way of articulating your idea or your talent and you allow it a little bit of leeway. Short-form filmmaking is also playing a growing role in discovering talent, helping to bring new voices into feature filmmaking. The Miriamsgrove has short Montaxi has become a stepping stone to making a feature film. I made it to keep talking to my dad so I was just making it for myself with no intentions, no audience in mind. But Montaxi has been the one opening doors for my feature as well. I didn't plan it that way but it has become that in a very like magical kind of way. Most in the industry would agree that short filmmaking has developed to become more than just a calling card for aspiring directors. It is now most definitely a form of cinema in its own right. That was Tom Brook. Now from short films to an even shorter form of media gaining a lot of fans, micro dramas. They're scripted videos, each episode usually just a few minutes long and shot for vertical viewing on a phone. Now the long-running Australian soap opera Neighbors is getting a second life in this format using archive footage recut with AI. It's expected to focus on the character played by Margot Robbie in one of her early television roles before her Hollywood career. But some of the original neighbours actors have complained about their scenes being repurposed in this way. We heard more about the controversy and the art of the micro drama from TV critic Scott Bryan. It's framed for your phone so it's not for a TV set. It's essentially maybe two or three minute long videos, normally having a big cliffhanger at the end as a way to make you watch the next episode. And it's a $25 billion industry. It seems to be popular in countries such as China and in India. A lot of them are made by animation and because of the quick turnaround, quite a lot of AI is being used. But in Neighbors case because it wasn't made originally for the phone and they are basically using classic storylines including one involving Margot Robbie from like the early noughties. They're going to reformat it for phones using AI to go and do so. As you can imagine, the involvement of our official intelligence has had quite a bit of a kickback. It really has been some actors from Neighbors, including Stephane Dennis, who played Paul Robertson speaking out against this. Essentially it all comes down to whether something that you had acted for is now being used for a different purpose. Margot Robbie originally was at the focus of the storylines back in the noughties. She could have never imagined that decades on it would be used for a different purpose to make money. There's a ethical question around actors use being used for something else and whether they can profit from it. Margot Robbie has been reached out for comment by various papers so far has not spoken publicly. But I think there's also a wider implication. If this takes off as a format, I mean I think it could have quite significant consequences for the TV industry. I think for the TV productions point of view, for free matter who make this, they may say they're not really spoken that much about it themselves. But they may say this is a way to create greater, more revenue, particularly that name. This has no knock I've got a streaming partner and it's a way for us to use our archive. But also if it does take off and it's using AI and it's just really repagaging archive. I think a lot of actors would say, well that's going to put me out of work if I'm not going to be able to compete with essentially technology that is going to be packaging things that I've already done or maybe making up new stuff entirely. So I think the consequences of a small Australian storyline in a quite well-known soap could have quite significant consequences. That was Scott Bryan. And that's all from us for now. 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