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Boba Tea + Wearable Art

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Boba Tea + Wearable Art

The podcast is a lively, personal exploration of fashion, relationships, and everyday culture. Hosts Benito Skinner and Mary Beth Roan celebrate wearable art—seeing clothing as expressive, historical, and deeply personal, from vintage dresses to bold streetwear. They highlight iconic fashion moments, like Lady Gaga’s seashell outfit or Princess Diana’s Versace dress, as powerful statements of identity and artistry. A central theme is the emotional bond between fashion and self, with the hosts reflecting on how specific garments—like the JFK coat or the Vivian corset—carry personal and historical weight. The discussion also touches on relationship anxiety, identifying it as a potential sign of relationship OCD and promoting ERP therapy as a solution. Cultural moments such as boba tea are presented as joyful, shared experiences rooted in nostalgia, especially from trips to Taiwan. The hosts also share personal anecdotes, like a surprising dinner at Little Ruby’s, and emphasize the importance of community, authenticity, and political engagement. Brand promotions for Hill House Home and K-18 are woven into the narrative, showing how fashion and self-care products enhance daily life. Ultimately, the podcast balances humor, vulnerability, and celebration, inviting listeners to appreciate fashion not just as style, but as a form of personal expression and connection.

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The following podcast is a Deer Media production. I'm Benito Skinner. I'm Mary Beth Roan. And this. Is. Right. Right. This is $1 a year on clothes. Well, of course, and I'll go. Good investment, right? My low sell high, boys. Exactly. No, but I sell low. Come on. That's my whole thing. Cowabunga. That's what I wanted to start today with. Cowabunga. That's it. Dylan Mulvania, dinner the other night. She kept looking at me, and I was kind of wearing like. I think I was wearing this shirt. And so now, every time I put this shirt on, she literally. I think her. Look, it cost me going, "Cowabunga, dude." She is the best dinner date you could possibly think of. I have. Are we recording? Okay, great. I have so much respect for that woman. In a way that like. I want to protect her. I want to hold her. She is a light. She is so funny and smart and talented. And the amount of hate this one person has got. It's like. I love that baby girl so much. I just. I want nothing but peace, happiness, love, and prosperity. No, we're friends. We're now bound for life. And I did FaceTime re-astray. She's on set of a movie right now. And she's fully in like a little boat-peep garb. And like, you do. And I FaceTime her and she's like. She'll be. Lights are out and she's in bed. So then for her to answer in broad daylight with ringlets and a bonnet. Yeah. It was. You just never. Like, always keep them on their toes. Exactly. She kind of. She kind of originated that. She went to my star academy. I know she did. She graduated with. Summa cum laude. Summa cum laude. Uh. No, no, I think I'm a Lou Monotti. You know how hard it is to try to like erase Nicki Minaj from my brain? For you, I can imagine pretty hard. Difficult. For you, maybe not. I just had to take Chun Lee and Megatron off some playlists. God, I just popped the living shit out of my back. It's crazy. Nothing. I have nothing to say. It's just the crack. What that does to me. Yeah. And I can do this thing where I put two of my. Two of your what? Two of my little balls together and I put them in between my kneecaps and I squeeze and it pops my hips. Mmm. The body's connected. Like. Do you remember when I struggled? Do you recently in my hip hop? No. Where were we? At yours. Oh, I don't remember that. You straddle me a lot. I guess. And I said Benjamin Button. It's all a blur. You laugh. I have no recollection of that. Maybe it wasn't you. Well, I hate that. I've barely seen you in the past few weeks, so I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. I swear to God, it was so funny. We went to the Calvin Chaudicat. Here we fucking go. Oh, baby. With the unrelateability. What the hell did they list her, baby? What if we call each other a listers? Do you want us to stay small forever? Literally. How do you think I could. How am I going to send all my girls to college? The book. But at one point, we were talking and you just go, what are you doing after this? And I was like, oh, what? I was like, am I going home and you're like, do you want to talk? Do you want to hang out? It was so cute. And I was like, yeah, I actually really do. I want to talk after. But then you had to go to something else. Well, and you also did. It wasn't like me. Fighting doors, mama. My big New York Fashion Week story. I was at the nylon dinner on Friday, a wonderful group of women. There was only one man present. And. Joe Rogan. It was Joe Rogan. He was head of the table. He was eating a rotisserie chicken naked. Well, and we are Tokyo record bar. So we all had sushi. He had a rotisserie chicken. He brought podcasters own and two turkey legs. Price upon request. Sorry. That is a kid reading price upon request. I was like, it's two million dollars. It might be. We don't know. We never got the request. And I didn't have to call. I found something for you on the real, real Christmas. It might come. Show me a belt. Yeah, me make a bite. Myself. Or you want to buy it for me. I got it for you for Christmas. Oh, great. Okay. Done. I'm literally like. I'm in my gift. I'm the gifting suite. You're the gifting. You are the gifting suite. I'm the Super Bowl gifting suite, Lately. So I'm at the dinner. I'm with wonderful women, including but not limited to Tuffy. Of course, SNL's Veronica S. She is both darling my darling girls. I was with Tuffy at an event this week and we were chatting and I forgot that it was like being filmed. Like I really. I got lost in the sauce with her. Lovely woman. We were next to each other. I love all of her takes as well. They're good takes. They see the takes on takes out. I'm like, yeah. You say double. She's a lean woodly one. Oh. So she's always been a legend to me because she's like, you're hungry. Go eat. Mm-hmm. That her Erin thinking he dunked on her with her being like, I need to go fuck this guy with her getting married. I'm like, he's one of those things where someone will tell me something. I was getting told a story about a legendary actress and they said that she wraps herself from set. And they were saying it in like a negative way. Oh, that's so mean. They're telling that. You're saying this story to a gay guy and you think I'm leaving not loving her even more? More. That's incredible. I'm like, she has earned that. Oh, hey, try again. Yeah, I go, oh no. And also, I'm like, I assume lots of actors have done that. But this like one actress, they were like, isn't that crazy? I'm like, nope, that feels totally logical. She has things to do. Needless to say, I didn't even need one more reason to love her. I love Sheileen Woodley, but sometimes you get that gift. No, you get that gift. And I'm like, fuck, it's just reading the comments on TikTok under it. It was just incredible. I mean, I'm sure like Mother Quake was trending that day. Yeah. National treasure Sheileen Woodley was all I have to say to that. Fuck. And if you want to even talk about Sheileen Woodley to me, it's like, I'm immediately locked into the descendants where she jumps in the water when she finds out that her mom is going to die. That, oh, I have chills. Did she get nominated for that? I love to check. She should have been called. A lot of people don't even know that she has a show coming out with Lindsay Lohan, their co-stars. Oh, my God. I did see, um, I saw a little just Jared. Oh, the Alistairist, we are Alistair. Nothing more humbling than a video getting posted, obviously, you know, whatever it is. But it says our name and the caption, and then everyone's like, I've never heard of these people. Okay. You're not going to hear of everyone is the thing. Yo, this is so funny. I just say, yo, yo, check out the mic. Yo. And I still haven't told you what happened when Dixie DiMillio arrived at the dinner, but we're going to get to it. Oh, yeah. No, we're going to get to it right after this because I feel like Dixie gets this a lot. And we all do where it's like, you get posted. And then, yeah, the comments are like, who? And it's like, well, did you think like the same people would, like other people are doing this too? Yeah. New people and the entertainment industry. And now you know the name. Yeah. And you just saw it. So now you just found out. Come on. And you could click through if you want to. Another egg list. Hey, mister. Hey, mister. I was at the dinner. Dixie DiMillio rolls in an hour and 20 minutes late to the dinner. Okay. Again, a mother quake. Mother quake. By the way, this story is nothing but amplifying praising. And if anything's saying she's a role model for us all, yeah. We're all eating like cats who chicken and there's like a fish dish and stuff. It's a sushi. Or it's a, yeah, it's a sushi place. And she orders everyone's drinking like to heal a soda, vacasota, whatever. All these like, girly drinks. She fully just comes in orders a pint of beer. She's sitting at the head of the table on the Guinness cup. She just, and she didn't think anything of it. Burps and then she goes, what I miss. I go, I'm sorry. I need to take a photo of you with that because this is beautiful, 25 years old. She comes through to a fashion week dinner and orders a beer. That is so Julia Roberts and my best friends wedding. I've got moves. You've never seen. Oh, God, he's a good one today. We're feeling really cool. I'm trying to sit in this chair once like, let me scoot up. I'm a pillow. Maybe whoever left their dog shit this morning on drags between 11th and 12th. I will see you in court. I stepped in it and judge beauty. It judge beauty residing, presiding over the case judge beauty. Oh, by the way, I didn't know, Fad. Oh, honey, we know. When I did send something on WeTransfer, the ad was there. Talking about Nicki Minaj 2012, I'm not the Super Bowl. Premat, right, Farah? When you, oh my God, yeah. But she, Mary Beth went to the airport and I was in the shoe thing. What did they call it? Oh, yeah. The GSA logo in the tray. And you said, not judge beauty. I said, oh, judge beauty, shut up at the airport. Hey. I love seeing my guy getting those sweet, sweet brand deals. Thanks, honey. I will talk about brand deals again this season, but not right now. I want to talk about two really quick things before we get into the chat update. Oh my God. People are chomping at the bit. Me and this, like, there's an ecosystem happening in this hotel. Like, I have so much to report. It's like, you have like a community there. Well, there's a statue of King Kong covered in Swarovsky crystals, I think. He's on top of the Eiffel Tower and he's wearing an American flag, Yankee hat. That feels, you know, really bought that. That was Adrian Brody. Adrian Brody. Someone was showing that at a gallery in Yorkville, Toronto, Canada. That's so true. And they went, whoa. They said, I need that for my hotel. They said, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's put this right by the shitter. And then they saw it was done composed by Adrian Brody. I'm going to take a photo of it for you guys. It really is something that just, it's going to stick with you for a while. So I haven't done apologies for hot people in a while. It's just hard to get the camera set up and everything, you know what I mean? Yeah, of course. It's just really hard. Yeah. And just carve out that time. Midterms are coming up. This is a reminder. And the Republican Party is going to do everything they can to try to metal with voting. They're shutting down polling stations. They want to make mail-in ballots like void. They're working with different, you know, state governments to try to limit people's access to voting. So vote in person if you can. Make a voting plan. Vote early. Go with friends. Go with your crush, see, and go on the booth with them and just make sure they vote for the right people. - Yeah. - But I would say check your voter registration and if you can't, I know it's privileged 'cause some people can't get time off work or they need childcare and stuff. - People who they're not holidays, that's insane to me. - I know, and in Australia, if you don't vote, you get fined. They really want people voting. - Voting. - Voting. - Voting. - Voting. - How do I do? Voting. - Voting. - Voting. - And then it becomes something totally different. (laughing) - So it's just my reminder, if you can make a voting plan of a voting person, you should, there's a lot of them in my places. - To talk badminton. - I can't look like this. - I know you should have one in the bag. - I guess you didn't watch our lips, they're sealed enough. - I got pretty close. - When they were witness protection. - Yeah, I mean, they're definitely like-- - I've seen it probably three times. - They saw some goons sealing the nail diamond. - You know, people have come up to me since you kicked someone out of the wedding and they're like, "I wish she was at my wedding." - Oh God. - People really are crashing weddings. - Oh, it's crazy. - Now, you know, it's time for me to talk about Hill House Home. Hill House's summer collection just dropped new prints, new styles, and it might be their best yet. If you don't know Hill House, they're the brand behind the viral nap dress. One, with the signature smocking that somehow makes everyone look good and feel amazing. 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That's hillhousehome.com and use code Reddit, check out for 15% off your first order of $100 or more. I'm actually going to Hill House Home right now, home.com 'cause I wanna look at the viral nap dress. I just feel like that's something I might need so let's look at dresses. Again, let's go and ride for 15% off your first order of $100 or more at hillhousehome.com. - We are so happy to say yet again, this podcast is brought to you by Squarespace. Squarespace is the all-in-one platform to build a website, grow a brand and get paid. And let me just tell you about two or three features that feel relevant to my audience. They have professional templates, drag and drop, no experience needed. You can be your own website designer. And they have an all-in-one platform, scheduling, payments, email marketing in one place. And the SEO tools helps your site get discovered. 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So, okay, relationships are intense. They make us care deeply, feel vulnerable, maybe even freak out a little sometimes. That's human. But some people have relationship concerns that go far beyond standard ones. Like finding another person attractive, then immediately thinking, oh my God, does this mean I don't really love my partner? Or needing constant reassurance that your relationship is right or that you're not making the wrong choice because you never feel sure enough. Or asking yourself the same question hundreds of times a day. Do I really love them? What if I'm wasting their time? In searching for some feeling of certainty that never comes. Many people think these sorts of thoughts and anxieties are just overthinking or commitment issues. But they can actually be signs of relationship OCD. So many people think OCD is just about cleaning or organizing or making your books the kind of like rainbow pattern. But that stereotype couldn't be more wrong. Real OCD is a serious condition, I have it. Hey, where distressing unwanted thoughts called intrusive thoughts get stuck on repeat and you feel compelled to do certain things. Mental or physical behaviors called compulsions to try to make the anxiety stop. With relationship OCD, compulsions might look like constantly seeking reassurance, replaying memories to see if you feel a spark or comparing your partner to others. But what's given me so much hope is learning that OCD is one of the most treatable mental health conditions when you get the right kind of specialized therapy. OCD needs ERP therapy, exposure and response prevention, which is proven to be the most effective treatment and it did help me so much. NoCD is the world's leading OCD treatment provider and all of their licensed therapists specialized in ERP. Therapy with noCD is 100% virtual, covered by insurance for over 138 million Americans and includes support between sessions. So you never have to face OCD alone. Well, you never are anyway because you're here with me and my arms around you. If you consent to that, I love you stinky. To learn more about starting OCD therapy with noCD, go to noCD.com and book a free call with 13. That's noCD.com, love you. - So let's get into the date that I was privy to last night. So I went to back to Little Ruby's, the seat of the crime. - Oh, I love Little Ruby's. - Yeah, they're the best. I brought Pinkie. I was sitting outside on the booth side, obviously. Just having a little solo dinner. - Of course, hat on. - Hat off, it was so hot. - Backwards. - It was backwards. - Yeah. - So I'm sitting next to a guy and a girl and the guy is like, he's pissy. He's pissy, he's in a pissy mood. - Of course. - He calls a host or so over and he's like, could you get someone to come take our drink quarters? So immediately, I'm like, I don't fuck with this guy. - Yeah. - He says he is a headache. He's getting a headache, sorry. And you know the new lamp culture, the lamps that are skinny with like, they have only a tiny bit of like, coming out of them. You tap to turn them off. - You tap and they kind of also like, you're kind of a DJ all of a sudden? - Yeah, and it's kind of like. - And it's low light. - Oh, it's low light. - It says little light as you could have from a lamp. - Yeah, of course. - Well, the girl goes, should I turn the lamp off? And then she turns it off and he's like, yeah, I think that helps. Then I hear this noise. Hold on, ready? Hold on. I need it. That sounds nice. - He has a deck of cards that he's shuffling under the table. And he goes, so do you know how to play poker? He brought this woman to a restaurant to teach her to play poker. And while he was getting a headache. - He's like, let's play strip poker right now. - I know. - He goes, take your panties off. - I stood up, I went to and I said, can I just pay really quick? I couldn't see anymore. - Yeah. - This was a horror movie. - You're like, hey, so I've been actually shot. Can I have help? And I almost did this tour, just to say, do you need Angela? - I'm sorry, bringing activities to a dinner. Like that's not what it's called. Sit down. - And how am I going to see the cards since you made me turn the lamp off? - Oh my God, recently I was at the there with someone and this girl was there reading a book and we were both looking at her going, but that's so beautiful. - Well, remember when we were in London and we were at a pub on a Friday night and there was someone reading sides, learning lines. At the bar, I have photos of it. - It was Charlie D'Amelio. - She was Charlie D'Amelio, she had an I.P.A. and she was hurled up at the bar. - She had a logger and she goes, fuck, I gotta get these lines down. My favorite part was that then five people came. So we kind of were like, that's so powerful. She's somewhere alone. She had a full group coming. She was just like, killing time. - She was staring at it both. - It must have been a bunch of gay guys showing up late. Let's talk about Chad. - There she goes, Andrew. And she still won't let me wiper. - This letting me wiper is this new thing. - It's like how far could I push it? - Like how? - Also, I don't have my normal pen and it's dressing me out. But Andrew is kind enough to let me, it's. - That is so fucking chewable. Don't even show me near that. - Don't even show me near that. - I could show. - Don't even, I think honestly, it's a little hot in here. - Chad update. - I might need a day to see you guys. - I did. - I get a little, I get a little hilarious. - I understand. - I start to say things like, let me show you here. - Let me show you here. - All right, I wanna hear about Chad. - Oh my God. It just felt like, so I'm walking to the elevator. It's walking out and he's with the girl he went on the first date with. - It's morning time or night time? - It's morning time. - It's morning time. - Whoa! - And I said, how's the date? This is two days later. I said, how is the date? 'Cause I didn't know. I was like, I assumed. And then, 'cause that first actually, it seemed like the girl he was with was a friend. So I thought it was safe, I threw up, safe to ask, like, okay, you know, like how to go babe. 'Cause that's my close friend. - That's my family. - That's my family. That's my brother. And so I see him and I'm like, oh my God, like how to go. And he goes, it's still going and she goes, it's going really well. I couldn't, it's like, and I said, you kids have fun. And I shit myself on the elevator. - Yeah, you dropped out. - I was so, it was like, I just-- - That's really, this is really powerful. - And I mean, that must have been so cool for her, like, to see a gay guy that's like approved of the guy. Like, I felt like I kind of gave her, like, no, he's actually really sweet. - And then he could then tell me. her about you and meeting you in the steam room and that you're a huge a-lister. You're sweating. He said I'm an a-lister. And she goes, she goes, "Who?" But what's fun is that if we were making a movie about your New York Fashion Week, that character would be like a little recurring runner. Yeah. And then at the end, they're either engaged or, yeah, they help us with the camera. Well, we'd officiate or something. We'd officiate. Yeah. They get married at the hotel. Of course. In the ballroom, I can only imagine. Yeah. And their wedding photos is a King Kong covered in Swarovsky crystal. That's what we'll be officiating in front of. I love the best of all of it. We're in New York City, Empire State Building, 30 blocks away, Eiffel Tower. Why? Oh, I didn't even hear about this. King Kong's on the Eiffel Tower. Oh, I totally, I was so distracted by the baseball cap. No. And that's what they want you. I think maybe that's what the artist is doing. It's like. You need a dream, Brody. So the brutalist, it was beautiful. It was my favorite. It was my favorite. Yeah, that was what he was playing with. He was like, it's about foreign affairs. It's about seeing his believing, believing a thing. It's about what we ride for this week. Exactly. You want to, let's get into it. I will be riding for Boba T. And I will be riding for wearable art. It's very similar. Very right. Did you see this? Do you see? Andrew? Andrew's seeing it. Watching porn, baby. So I, oh, is it OK if I go first? I would love for you to go first. I want my to percolate a little bit. OK, cool. Think about it. I'm sitting on my hands this time so I'm not, I'm not trying to hit the table. Little DC mama. So. So speaking of Diet Coke, the other day I was walking and the song "Classic" came on by the knocks. Oh, my God. It feels so classic. And it feels it feels it feels it feels so classic. And I had a Diet Coke on ice and I was like, someone gave us some roller blades right now. We cropped us. We cropped us. We cropped us, but you know that's Mandela effect, right? Because the song is "Starry Had Surprise." Well, of course. But like, I'm just making sure. Yeah, oh, yeah. No, but that song is so that song. Can you wear the outfit she wears in that Diet Coke? Oh, God. Yeah. "Starry Had Surprise." I'm only clarifying because if I don't, someone else will. Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, oh, absolutely. I know what you mean. Yeah. I swear to God, like the messages. It's such a mustache can do so much. My messages have been just been crazy. Everyone messaging me about how good you look as well. For Calvin, they were like, you took her eyebrows and put them above your lips. I know. I actually meant to make that joke in a video, but the content was, it all happened so fast. I don't think I nailed the content at that, like for, you know, but it's okay. You don't think. I don't think I did my best. I think you did. I think there were better takes. Great. It's not up to me. You know what's hard? It's like, you'll be in those and then you, when you do like video, like, when you do videos, I'm not even saying this. So, boba tea. But we're keeping that. Of course. I'm like, I just don't even. Oh, God. You know, that happened to me recently. I was at a dinner. I was so tired and I was close to like the middle of a story. And then I just, I was so zuded. We had been editing all day. I was like, I've got. You were crossfaded. Totally. And I just looked at her and I go, you weren't invested in that, right? I'm not, I can't finish. You can abandon a story. You have nothing to prove. And I go, there's no way you want to hear the rest of that. And then she was like, that's so fine. If you think about it later. And I said, you're going into me dinner. I'm not kidding. No, you won't. I will never get that back. I have no idea what I was talking about. Funny. You're going into too many dinners. You can take the guy out of LA. You can't take LA out of the guy. God, I got to stop. Andrew tonight. We're on, right? Ruby's. Ruby Tuesday. He's in teaching poker at Rodriguez. He's in the red robin in Times Square. Of course. Is there a red robin there? There's a red lobster. OK, so that was one of those moments where it's important to watch the mod, because we just said 1,000 words. So boba tea. I, boba tea first came into my lexicon and my heart when my best friend, my two roommates in college, it was senior year and we had saved up. And we got these really cheap airline tickets to Taiwan. That's where we went for spring break. From DC to Taiwan. What? But it was so funny. I've never heard this. This is new. You don't know that. I've been to Taiwan. No. Oh, my God. I didn't know you've been to Asia without me. It was my first time being an a-lister. Right. Everyone took a photo with me because I just, I was so tall and it was just like, I don't know. I was just, I dressed up so much. Also, that's not, that's not problematic. It is true when tall people go to Asia. They get stopped with the first photos. I just, the truth is, I got stopped for photos there and I was like, oh shit, this is kind of for me. That's when you got to it. I got to it. I got to it. I got to look. So, I go with my two best friends, Oliver and Lucas, Lucas, the greatest bachelor in New York City. Well, we're trying to, we have someone, we're working on it. Yeah. Yeah. Lucas, watch this space. So, it's funny. I was with him last night and we were talking about it at a dinner. I remembered everything I was good. I was fully charged. But no dinner tonight. Too many dinner tonight. I have a dinner tonight. Not tomorrow. Okay. So we go into, I'm forgetting the name of the exact market, but it was incredible. There's like these night markets in Taiwan. And they, it was like the first time I had a pal bun, changed my legs. Oh, pal buns are huge. A pork pal bun. I can't eat them anymore, but I have had that. Of course. Sorry. I had like six a night. Also, this is college, like, I mean, like a college boy. You're skinny jeans. Yeah. Oh, APC petite standards. I told you that I actually thought my body didn't make hair on my inner thighs. Yeah. And then I started wearing loose pants. And I thought, no, it does. I just was ripping all the hairs off for those years. But I'm wearing those. I'm wearing my supreme hat and a green bomber. Is it cold in Taiwan? Okay. Well, let me think. I remember it being kind of warm, but not it was, I just loved it. I loved every minute of it. I loved every place I went. We went to these like, it's really incredible like tea garden. That was like gorgeous and like, have tea there and little like, crumpets and stuff. But it was so funny. I really meant like the two greatest straight guys, because it wasn't a trip of like us being like, nasty. Going to like one night club one, and it was just funny. Like it was just hilarious that we were there, because it was like definitely like, you know, promoting for like younger people or something. Yeah. But then we went and they were playing like American music that came out like four years ago. That's so fun. It was kind of incredible. That can be so fun. That's where I fell in love with tequila sunrises and bubble tea. So bubble tea originated in Taiwan. And they do it in a way that it's almost made it hard having bubble tea since I won't mind unless it's unless it's Taiwanese owned. Yeah. I'll just say it right now, because they had, I had this like brown sugar. I'm trying to remember what this thing is. It's like, it almost looks like sawdust that was like put on top of it, but it's like getting up. Wow. So you love a drink with flavor. I love a drink with flavor. And it has testicles in it. It has texture. It has texture. It's like these little tapioca balls, they just like I'm also oral fixation. I love chewing on shit. I like dums. That's a fact. Give me that. Like me in that pen, me that in chemistry class, I could turn it into a flower. Did it ever explode in your mouth? No. Not yet. I know just the way to get it just I that's me playing with fire. Yeah. Just a little bit. So I go and essentially I become fully addicted while we're on this trip, but my boys did too. We were having like four a day, I and I've tried every flavor. I rarely pass one and don't get like if I pass a boba tea place, I'm probably getting one. I've found a few. I have it. Oh my god. I mean, New York City. It's bobaville. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's really, it's almost like what Froyo and its prime was now boba tea has entered the chat. And as Kai Newman says often, that's dessert. - It's totally dessert. It's delicious. - Well, it depends. I recently was having one with a man, can you believe? And he, I know. And his had a Cremberlay cold foam top. And I was like, that's exactly what this is supposed to be. I, if you wanna know my order now, 'cause sometimes it's like, it can get a little too sweet. But I love that there's, you can pick at most boba tea places, a sweetness level. - Mm-hmm. - And how much ice? - Oh, wow. - Oh my God, it is literally, so I'll be like, I kind of go less sweet because it's, if you do too much, I guess I'm okay. It's already very sweet and I do like a little bit more than regular ice with the tapioca balls. I love black milk tea and at some places, they'll do it with coconut milk, heaven. And then I love like a little brown sugar in there. It's just the brown sugar tapioca balls, you're not gonna find anything better than that. But I've done a matcha. Oh my God, I had one with my sister Katie. I think we went to a place in K town that had boba tea and it was so, that was a really good one in LA. I'm trying to remember the name, but that was shocking. But I just, I love it. And then so imagine you love a drink this much. And it means a world that takes you back to a gorgeous time in college with your besties. Can't wait for the over-compensating episode in Taiwan. - Yeah. - Benny and Grace. - Benny and Grace go to Taiwan. (laughing) - Oh, I said an Airbnb. - I haven't figured quite why yet, but-- - No, it'll be easy. That'll take like two seconds. Radish room, me and you. Couple of day at Cokes, we got this. - Oh yeah. - Come on, come on. - Hey, Lister! - So, this TikTok comes across my for you page. It was, nothing has been sent to me more. This young gay man-- - This is changed the course of history. - He's sitting in his car. And it's his first time. getting a boba tea or he got one and then it didn't have the tapioca balls. So then he goes back and he gets another one because he's like these are so good. He is so that he's pure joy in this video. This man I will post it because this is like I've yet to find a better video on the internet. This is a Canon event. There's two videos that mean the world to me. This one and the one where the football coach is in the stands and he goes what's better than this? Guys being dudes. Oh yeah, of course. And that one obviously. That being a top two for you is really interesting. You get that though. Those are perfect videos. Yeah. That and then maybe Jeffrey Star saying I fully believe that did he kill Tupac. That one that is also like I just can't believe it's real. So he takes a sip and one of the tapiocas goes straight in the back of his belt. Yeah. He chokes in what he lives a projectile. He projectile all over the car. He had no idea that the balls would come up. I don't know what he was expecting but maybe that they dissolve but it's what's really important is that he was rolling. Yeah. The cameras were rolling. The cameras were on the attack. Isn't that happening? He wasn't rolling. You can't. I urge everyone go get a boba tea. It's so fun. I just love getting a beverage with with best days. What a great date spot. Especially if you're looking for non-alcoholic alternatives. How's this feel? You guys so good. It's hermetically sealed. Yeah, it's sealed. And then when you pop that straw in there. Yeah, it's awesome. I mean, there's nothing better. They're just so cute. They can also look so good with your outfit. Well, it's innovation. You know, I love innovating. Yeah. I'm always innovating which is why my TV is currently on the floor propped up against a chair. It has not been mounted. When I was mounting you. Right. When you were, when you were shuttling me, which I don't recall. Yeah. So it's and that's innovation. I'm not ready to mount it. Yeah, but the TV is so functional. Yeah. When they when they those the innovators in Taiwan came up with this boba tea idea, it's like, how do we get something chewable in a drink? And it's like they fucking nailed it. No, they said like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. They won't like this. They hit their finger and they go. And how to make tapioca balls is crazy. I have to like sizzle them on a skillet and stuff. I need a gluten free boba place. I don't I know tapioca is gluten free, but something about the balls isn't. So I haven't had boba. Let me see what I can do. Well, you know, you could get the um figured out. I forget what they're called. They're almost like little burstable. They're not light. I'm trying to think because they have those like balls that are not the tapioca, but they're like they kind of burst in. They're just similar. Those are fun. Like I like those two, but I like to chew my testicles. Of course, personally, of course, but I just I go get a boba tea. I love them so much. I missed Taiwan. I want to come back. Um, I think we're going to go. I think we have to. It's a really incredible place because it both has like it, it has two cultures that have come together to make this kind of like unbelievable place. It's both Chinese and Japanese and it's very like Taiwan's that girl. I love you taking a globe out of La Roche's bag spinning it. A senior in high college. And you go, we're going to Taiwan. You know, it's my friend Oliver. Oliver also brought me to Moldova. I've been to Moldova. I watched Foxcatcher in the Moldova airport. Tell me I haven't, tell me I haven't seen the world. I watch nine lives. I watched shame at the Madrid airport. What up? Oh my god. What a perfect combo. You know, shame was the Jake, Jake Samus, your security guard. And I we were talking about what we wanted for the Calvin Klein look. Shame was kind of demon. She is huge. And you totally fucking nailed it. I love that movie. It's really sad. She's carrying Mulligan. If she's there, I'm seated. Yeah. And Michael fast-spender. He's in 300. People forget that when I was in my Michael fast-spender, like Stan era. I do not know that. He's like one of the leads in 300. His, yeah. And his body is just like, it's actually the craziest thing I've ever seen. All right. I guess I got to watch 300 finally. Like he loved Bobat. They said I could, they said I'd never watch 300. Well, they were wrong. They were fucking wrong. I'm going to do it finally. I think, I mean, please wait for me to watch it. I will. They're so. Watching on my floor with the team. Oh my god. It's like every part of it is like, it was just such a per- I, who did I just talk about this with? It was just such a perfect cross-section of like, I think it was on the pod. Never mind. Yeah. It was next. 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And she's saying yes, but I am just a fan at the end of the day. It's what I always say to Charlie. I'm like, I'm fan first. It's nothing. I'm a fan of you first and friend second. And both are big. I'm a big fan and a big friend. Of course. But at the same time, it's just like, I'm going to fan you first. But then you said, pedestrian ass message. That will be in the dump, by the way. Good. Because it was just I read it back and I went. I never saw that coming. You never saw the hood. A lie with a hood at the open. I just didn't think you were going to do that and not tell me beforehand. So that's what's exciting. I love when we surprise each other. We can still surprise each other. Like you going at me hearing that you went to Taiwan. Exactly. Or when I there was one look I did, it was like an armony look with spiky hearing glasses. Yeah. After you were like, whoa, whoa, you didn't tell me about this. You didn't tell me that. You're literally like what you do? Who are you? Who are you with? What do you do? Who do you know? What are you doing? What are you doing? Her being so mad. You have to talk about that. We still haven't talked because there's no way. Can I tell you there's no way for me to write that down? I had you made me perform this in front of Scott King. One of the directors in the show interview over. Mary Beth made me do this because I was doing it to her and he goes, what are you guys doing? And she's like, then you do it. Well, I said explain it. And I was like, you know, and Carrie Aiden's being like lazy and sitting on the seat. Aiden's being like classic lazy top. Yeah. And she's going, come on. Let's go out because he wants to eat like fried chicken after playing basketball, which I've never understood that combo. But she goes, and it's kind of like, she's all of us. Sorry. No one's doing it like her. Speaking of wearable art, by the way, oh, Vala LaFrance fry. Don't do that. Don't mock the close laugh. It's a joke. Well laugh. It's a joke. So Carrie Bradshaw inspired, I think, a generation of women. And of course, many, many women that came before and after her to to embrace the idea of wearable art. Because to me, so much of fashion is wearable art. It's like somebody sketched that out, designed it. They produced it. A lot of love went into it. A lot of thought went into it. And it is a piece of wearable art. So I feel very lucky that I have so many pieces that I consider wearable art, the Vivian corset. Oh my God, I love that corset. With the painting on it. So beautiful. I would say, of course, the Alaya with the hood. I would use a Cavali dress that I haven't even worn yet. That's wearable art. Andrew can't wait to see it. We can't wait. He's been asking for photos. I'm not sending. Yes. Then of course, you know, you have a Miracami Speedy bag, which I brought with me today. It's like, it's wearable art. And it doesn't have to be designer. There's also wearable art that can be vintage or has meaning for you because of your family or you were at twist. specific event that makes it wearable art to you. But I just think it's so fun. And sometimes I'll just go on first dibs or the real real and just look. I'll go on first dibs and type in like Tom Ford Gucci and just see what's on there. So much wearable art. - Such a cool, a life style on there. - Yeah, it's amazing. And so I just think like fashion, I have so much appreciation for it. That's why I love pulling from archives and trying to wear pieces that are very old or have a lot of history that is involved. The Merissa Cooper dress, for example, I'm working on getting the Chanel Prondo. - So much more to come, just like watch this space please. - So much more to come. But I really feel like a connection to femininity and also like I really just appreciate it so much. And it's not just about like designers and labels. I don't want it to come off as that at all. It's like I think my blankie is wearable art in a lot of ways. - Totally. - I don't wear it out anymore because she's crumbling. - Sorry, the recreation of your galaxy brain by my lovely, okay, Adrien, I'm so sorry. I think I'm butchering your last name to everyone I've ever met. But it's our neary, our neary. - Yeah, I will, yeah, you know I love you. I just, I don't know anyone's last name. - Last names are tricky and sometimes even first names are. - Yeah, totally. - So I don't really like to say them anymore. - Yeah, I know, but Adrien, I love you so much, baby. - We love you. - But that to me, it's like, it is wearable art. It's, I mean, you're preaching the choir here. There's something I love more. - I want to do your office. - My god, it's so much wearable art. - Oh my god, you know what? I saw, I went to, where was it at? Um, what's the museum in London that starts with a beat, the Barbacon, but they're like the Bebekin. - Sure. - They say it in like a, it sounds better when they say it. And I say it and it sounds like Bebekin. - You went to the Churchill War room. - I'm like De Berger, like I sound insane. Also, isn't my, isn't this soaping panther? - Hmm. - De Berger. - So I went there and they had one of the McQueen dresses from the Highland rape. And it was kind of the most incredible thing I've ever seen. And when I went to, at the V&A, same time around the same time, I went to Taiwan. I was studying abroad in London, and my parents were visiting me and me in the closet. I said, can we go to the V&A McQueen show? - Yeah. - That was like, I had never, I think I had always loved fashion and I was a street wear and I was like a virtual and supreme. And like, I was more-- - Well, those are more like straight male brands. - Exactly. But then I went to that and I was like, oh my god, these are like sculptures. This is like beyond anything. - That's beautiful. - Like to just, if you've ever like, disrespected fashion, it's like, don't mock the clothes. - Don't mock the clothes. - That was one of the most unbelievable, like the Philip Tracy hats, the like-- - Well, Scapparelli. I was thinking, I'm just thinking of now who's like, carrying the torch, and I think Scapparelli's doing some amazing things with wearable art. - Yeah. - And then there's this Versaceius dress that Princess Diana wore. She in, there's a Versaceius dress that Princess Diana wore that I think is like in the Smithsonian or something, but it's just like-- - As it should be. - Where's the adventurous? - That was Versaceius. - Yeah, I think like it says so much about the woman wearing the clothes, like what she puts on. - And the gay guy. - And not everyone has to understand it. What's been really interesting, I think, is looking back and maybe I've talked about this before, but looking back at red carpet moments that were considered flops at the time, like the Bjork swan dress or when Gwyneth went goth at the Golden Globes or Oscars, I believe, or that Courtney Love Golden Globes dress that was kind of shredded, like people that just got like roasted for what they were wearing. And then now we look back on that and we were like, God, that was such like a moment. - Singular. - Singular, and I think it's just-- yeah, it's about how it makes you feel and if you feel powerful and like you can take up space in the clothes, and I just think like I feel so much privilege that we live in a time where fashion is really celebrated. - Let me tell you a story. Do you mind? Gaga was touched, she was gonna touch down in Greece during her art pop era. You wanna talk about wearable art. She touches down all that they have in a bag because she doesn't know that all the pop routes you're gonna be there. They kinda weren't aware that it was gonna be such a thing that a huge crowds were waiting. She had two seashells, some fishnets, and a wig. She came out and it is, I get chills. It's like wearable art. She stuck those seashells right over her buffas and she stepped out and turned it and I'm, and I think it's kind of got like a sarong or something. It's so like, it's just into me wearable art. - Wearable art. - But that whole campaign, she is full wearable art. - It's wearable art. - But I'm thinking about Rianna. - Yeah. - Is it Guaipay, Guaipay? The, I'm definitely pronouncing that wrong. I mean, I'm sorry for that, but the yellow coat, I mean, it's the most unbelievable thing in history. - She also wore the YSL Heart Shaped. - Oh, come on. That's like, that changed millennial culture. Urban Outfiters saw that. They were all beating off. - And the sheer dress. I think she wanted, she was winning a fashion award and she wore that sparkly sheer with the first, with the fur, you know what I'm talking about. - Oh my God, when she won the CFDA. - The CFDA. - Icon awards. - Yeah. - That was Adam Selman. - The dress. - He did that and then Mel Otonberg styled it. - I didn't even know that. - I'm like pretty positive. - Well triple check. - That is, but I, I'm so glad you said this because recently I came across the impossible true love product shirt that I had loved so much that Virgil had worn. Virgil was like, I mean, he is everything to me. And it was like so this shirt and I had always wanted it and like I just, I kept looking. I can never really find it or wasn't the right size. And then I finally found it on the real real and someone DMed me and they're like, Benny, here's the shirt. It was like such a fair price. I was like, you were so happy. And I have my world for it. - I can't wait to see where you're going to wear it to. - I know, it's like, I kind of might just wear it to like, fucking brunch and a boba tea with my bestie. Like, I kind of, I might think of like wear it. - You can just do that. - My thing also lately is just like, wear the thing. - I have been, I'm wearing a MUU apron skirt right now. - I've been immersed in TikTok stories of 9/11 and they just, they won't stop showing me. And I also, I'm like, I want to see these things because I want to like, - You want to learn. - I want to learn, I don't want to be desensitized to order, like order the things. So I was watching and it's like, it's just have gratitude go out. It's, you know, I'm not relating that, you know, I'm not relating 9/11 to fashion. But I am saying, like, I do think there is something to go out and wear clothes and enjoy your life. - Enjoy your life. - Get it, get it fucked up. - I've experienced this. - This should be worn unless they should be in museums. And then let's keep in museums. - And then let's put in museums. - Oh totally, and I know exactly what you mean by that. - Let's just kind of like, keep things in museums. - Yeah. - I think like, that's probably where they should be. - If they're in there, that's, yeah, let's keep it. - I get a little scared. Anytime I see someone wearing like a true archival McQueen piece, that's not Lady Gaga. I'm like, whoof. - Well, is it being taken? - I mean, very nervous, just to be very careful in my life. - I consider both our Monty looks that I wear in Venice to be wearable art. I mean, the beads, the mesh, the-- - Can you tell you some of my favorites of yours? - Please, well, I just want to say really quick, I think Zendaya and Law Roach are doing amazing job. - Yes. - Doing an amazing job of bringing wearable art to the red carpet. And in some cases, the designer is holding a dress or a piece for two years. Knowing that that wearable art is going to be worn by-- - With the Fiko matter that she wore to the Odyssey with the wings is like-- - Fiko matter? - Yeah, that's the name of the brand. - Okay. (laughs) - Is it what I mean? - And I wanted to say Cher as well. - That's correct, yeah. - Cher, Cher is-- - Or it's a materia of Fiko, yeah. - We'll see. - Girl. - You can name some ones that you love. - Of yours, you want me to tell you things I love you own. - And rocks. - The rest of the Cooper dress obviously is wearable art because it tells such a story. I love things like that that have so much history attached to them. Oh my God, wait. I just, as I was thinking about yours, I thought about my JFK coat that you all got for me - Oh my God, and that's very important. - That was wearable art. And that literally was. It was like fully painted and screen printed on the back. - You told me to watch the Bob Mackey documentary which was available on Delta for a while. It was so good. - I'm so sorry to tell you this. He passed away this morning. That is so crazy you're bringing this up to me. I just saw it. I was devastated. The legend forever, if you haven't go watch this documentary honor him, he is so good. - I mean, the friendship was shared. - His creative relationship was shared. I think should be studied and I'm so glad that they dive into it in the documentary. I have to watch it. - You have to watch it. - Six to 10 more hours about that. - Bob Mackey, naked illusion. - Naked illusion. - Which obviously is referencing share at the Met. That dress. - So many. - That's like the best dress ever. I mean, that's all wearable art. You know who's doing just incredible wearable art, Jared Elner. - Jared Elner. - That's a genius stylist who's making so many moments of wearable art. Huge shout out to him. - And I have to shout out this week. - Your stylist, Jake Samus. - Yeah. - Who supports our endeavors with wearable art. - Of course. - And then of course, Kat Tupaldos, who's my stylist, who I feel like even when I want to do like Joker glam at the Gotham, she's like, okay, let's figure out how to make it work. That's wearable art to me. - Well, of course. And that all counts. That's all the part of it. It's, and I think that too of like having, it's respecting the clothes. Don't mock the clothes. - There's something, you know, when people kind of do the eye roll of fashion, I'm like, this is like, really? It can be, it's so beautiful. I think it's like, it's new shapes. It's architectural. It's passionate. It's like referencing like, it's historical. I don't know. - And you don't have to get it to appreciate it. Like, you don't have to get it. - It doesn't mean I want to wear all of it. It just means there are some things where I'm like this. And I think there's something beautiful about that speaking to you and you wanting to like make it yours. And I get very inspired when I see people wear things that I'm like, oh, that is so coming from you. Like, it's seeing you in the Marissa Cooper dress. I'm like, there's so much history already there that it just feels like that's heaven. And I can't wait for you guys to see me drink in a fricking fatty boba tea in my little product. I can't wait for that too. - Oh my God, what else do I love that you've worn? The alignment the fucking world to me. - Oh, so the alignment. Cavaoli at the overcompensating premiere, the leopard. 'Cause you didn't tell me you were wearing that yet. I didn't know that was your dress. - That was a surprise. - And then I got sent a photo before I arrived and I was like, well, that just is beautiful. - Also the Eliat G. Humanity Year, you pay. That was so fun. That felt like wearable art. - Did you let Dylan Movaney has that dress now? - Well, you just recently returned it to me. - Okay. - But she wore it. Of course I think if you trust people with the clothes, you should share to me, that feels good. - Also shout out Stussy. - Shout out Stussy. - You know. - Should we get in a writer die? - Yeah. I obviously write for wearable art. I mean, my God, look at me. - Andrew, what's your eyes? - But yeah, I think there is such beauty in it and I think I really always love going to the Met exhibits and seeing the clothes. I think the last one I fully went to though, 'cause I hadn't been in New York when they were showing it was the camp one. And that obviously you wanna talk about wearable art. - I'm a gala. - No, like Jeremy Scott's like me, you're a hot dog. - So you're a hot dog. - Amen. - And you're a cheeto. - There's this cheeto dress that like we have to find for you because I've got something close. - No, I think it's an museum though for real. - Is it really? I know it was at the Met Gala but maybe one night only. And this is the one time I'm fine with it being taken out of the museum. - You know who I love to follow for wearable art is also tab vintage. - Oh tab. - Oh my God. - Come on. - I mean, there's just so much. - The amount of times I'm setting that. Yeah, I know. It's like, it's so fun. It's like, it's our armor for real. - Yeah. - I love it. - Alita Battle Angel in a lot of ways. - So honey. - I was gonna say that. Talk about boba tea. Do you ride? - Of course ride for boba tea. I love to see the joy that it brings. It's not something, again, it's something I can appreciate but I can't participate. - It could look good with any of your outfits by the way. - It looks good with any outfit you could just carry it as a prop if you can't actually like partake in drinking it but when on the times that I did have it, I enjoyed it so much because I love, there are certain mixes of textures that I don't like like if you're biting into a salad and you feel a crunch that you weren't expecting. Obviously that's really scary. - That's when it's a lemon seed. - I had a lemon seed. - I had bitten into a lemon seed. - I like that. - The other, oh my god. - I don't like that. But when it's a beverage with a chewable like, but there's, it's substance to it. I like, there's no English word for it. I'm sure the French have a word for that texture but- - It's just, we did a month. - Just, we did a month. But I love also what I really love is when another culture brings something to America for all to enjoy. Obviously I think Americans should also leave the country more and experience their cultures but we are so grateful that you brought both of us here along and you opened up a franchise. - I packed four in my bag. They exploded everywhere, but I brought them back from Taiwan and I said- - And you reformulated them in the lab? - Of course, I had to, I had to figure out- - Were they at the Oppenheimer drink the other day, the coffee spritz? - Oh my god. - Americans need to go experience other cultures. I'm not saying everything should be brought to our doorstep. - Don't be an asshole when you go there though. - Oh, please respect the culture and don't litter. - Yeah. - But I think it's really cool that we can have a custom from another culture that comes here and just like is, I mean, it's flying off the shelves. It's like hot cakes. - I know. - It's really cool. - It's like a revolution. - It's a total revolution. It's a beverage revolution. - You know, there used to be a place called Juice Cineration in Weems, right? - There's still a place called there. - Yeah. - I had a joke that I would say to people all the time and no one ever laughed at it and it made me laugh in the way that I still- - I would go with that. - Oh my god. - I really am just alone in my mind. - I would go we are the Juice Cineration. - No, of course. (laughing) - That is objectively funny. - Thank you. - Juice Cineration. - We are the Juice Cineration. - Well, I want to open a boba place called the beverage revolution. - Wait, that's so good. - Yeah. - Bobenny. - But of course, it's like we have Taiwanese people like own it, run it and make all the money from it. We don't profit. - Little boba peep. I'm thinking of all my versions. - Whoa. - I went to a place that's called Soft Swerve. - It should be on the menu, Little Boba Peep. - Yeah, Little Boba Peep. Little Boba Peep. It's strawberries and cream. - Beverage revolution. - I would love to make beverages. - Maybe in our final act. After you do your Benny Thomas Star Academy, we go on to open beverage revolution. And of course, every crematory cremation Millennial Cemetery for you, we will have a boba tasting. - Well, how are you gonna serve town your fro you? You gotta have a drink, right? - It's double dessert. - It's a two for one. - To see on my tombstone. - Well, 'cause it's sad that you've lost someone, but then you could have some fro you. - Yeah. - Calabung. (laughing) - Thank you. - Oh, my exit. - Any babe, I's in the road. (screaming) - There you go. - Rye, rye. - Rye, rye.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The podcast highlights a celebration of fashion and wearable art, emphasizing personal connections to clothing as meaningful, historical, and expressive.
  2. A major theme is the joy and cultural significance of boba tea, especially its roots in Taiwan and its role as a nostalgic, shared experience with friends.
  3. The hosts express deep admiration for iconic fashion moments and figures like Lady Gaga, Cher, and Princess Diana, viewing their style choices as powerful forms of wearable art.
  4. Relationship concerns such as anxiety over love or commitment are discussed as signs of relationship OCD, with a focus on ERP therapy as an effective treatment.
  5. The hosts promote brands like Hill House Home and K-18, showcasing their products as both functional and personally meaningful.
  6. A humorous and heartfelt narrative unfolds around a dining experience at Little Ruby’s, where a man attempts to teach poker, leading to an unexpected emotional reaction from the hosts.
  7. The conversation touches on social issues, including voting rights and political suppression, urging listeners to participate in democracy.
  8. The podcast blends personal stories, fashion, relationships, and pop culture into a vibrant, human-centered celebration of lifestyle and identity.

Summary:

The podcast is a lively, personal exploration of fashion, relationships, and everyday culture. Hosts Benito Skinner and Mary Beth Roan celebrate wearable art—seeing clothing as expressive, historical, and deeply personal, from vintage dresses to bold streetwear. They highlight iconic fashion moments, like Lady Gaga’s seashell outfit or Princess Diana’s Versace dress, as powerful statements of identity and artistry.

A central theme is the emotional bond between fashion and self, with the hosts reflecting on how specific garments—like the JFK coat or the Vivian corset—carry personal and historical weight. The discussion also touches on relationship anxiety, identifying it as a potential sign of relationship OCD and promoting ERP therapy as a solution. Cultural moments such as boba tea are presented as joyful, shared experiences rooted in nostalgia, especially from trips to Taiwan.

The hosts also share personal anecdotes, like a surprising dinner at Little Ruby’s, and emphasize the importance of community, authenticity, and political engagement. Brand promotions for Hill House Home and K-18 are woven into the narrative, showing how fashion and self-care products enhance daily life. Ultimately, the podcast balances humor, vulnerability, and celebration, inviting listeners to appreciate fashion not just as style, but as a form of personal expression and connection.

FAQs

The viral nap dress is a signature piece from Hill House Home, known for its smocking design that makes everyone look and feel great. It has been spotted on celebrities like Taylor Swift and Olivia Rodrigo, and is praised for being versatile—perfect for coffee runs, dinners, weddings, or the beach.

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Relationship OCD involves intrusive thoughts about love and commitment, leading to compulsive behaviors like seeking reassurance. It is treatable with ERP (Exposure and Response Prevention) therapy, which is proven effective and offered through providers like noCD.

Boba tea is a drink with chewy tapioca balls and flavored tea, originating in Taiwan. It has become a global phenomenon, especially in cities like New York, where it’s often considered a fun, social, and nostalgic experience.

Wearable art refers to clothing that is designed with creativity, history, or personal meaning—such as vintage pieces or custom designs. It goes beyond aesthetics, connecting fashion to identity, storytelling, and cultural expression.

Designers and stylists like McQueen, Fiko Matter, Jared Elner, and Jake Samus are highlighted for creating powerful, meaningful wearable art moments. Celebrities like Lady Gaga and Cher are also cited for their iconic, expressive fashion choices.

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