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[MUSIC] Man, I genuinely missed you, bro. >> I missed you too. >> Like that ass, I saw you and I was happy. Like, oh shit, show see. >> How many days? >> I did, man. I was like, oh, my boy is back. My guy is fucking back, man. >> No, it's great to see you, man. >> How did it feel to be away for too much? >> It was cool, man, like hanging with the family every single day. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Never travel. >> What do you mean? >> I don't get to, you know, I'm traveling every week. >> Oh, yeah, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. >> You know, like every morning waking up, like reading my dark books to sleep every night almost. >> Amazing. >> Yeah, it was far. >> So listen, yeah, what the, when did you have to do, bro? >> I missed you, I genuinely missed you, man. >> And a lot fucking happened. >> I know, I want to call in. >> It was so much going on. >> So much happened, you know, but listen, did you know? >> That name interview was viral over there. >> Really? >> I mean, I've come on standing there, that's everywhere. >> Yeah, but like Australia is just so removed from everything. >> Really? >> Yeah, it's just like, they tap in, like they're great. It was awesome, but like, they're removed. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> You're on an island in the middle of the ocean. >> Yeah. >> And just surrounded by Asia. >> A lot of Iggy's over there? >> Yeah. >> What? >> Is there a lot of Iggy's over there? >> I was like, she like a-- >> No, she's not an anomaly, like they're in shape. >> They're in shape. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, air of shape. >> So Dr. Obama would like maybe do a load, a load, a load of second take if you might have, I think. >> Black Queens forever, snow bunnies never. I said, black Queens forever, snow bunnies never. >> And technically they're Asian, they're not white. So he might be able to slide through, yeah. >> So Iggy is Asian? >> Well, I think where is Australia? >> It's an Asia, yeah, they're Asian. >> That could be, yo, Iggy's your rebrand. Come out his right spice. >> It's different, you know what I'm saying? I'm serious. She could have rebranded and come back. >> I think that is the move, yeah. >> That would be five, yo. She really tapping her on Australian Asian move. My name is Rice Spice, it is dead. >> You know what I'm saying? >> She could kill. >> So what did y'all shoot? >> That was what we was wondering. We looking like, yo, they always at the amusement park. >> Bro, 50s back here. >> Bro, 50s, oh yeah. So people pop in and out. >> Okay, so depending on how much you're in the movie and what parts of the movie you're in, you gotta stay for shorter longer. So they were able to, and you got all these different people in it that have really restricted schedules. So 50 stuff, I think he was there for like a month. He lost like 25 pounds. >> I saw. >> Bro, it was crazy. And he's just, 50, you wanna hear a fun 50 story? >> There's no such thing as a not fun 50 story. >> All right, we're at the first cast dinner, right? So he comes in, right? 50 is like up, he's a major character in the movie, but it's not like the biggest part. >> He plays the ball rock, right? >> Right, which is like iconic character, like it was made after Mike Tyson. Here's a little street fighter lore. The bad guy in street fighter is called M-Bison, right? >> The Larry's. >> So they made ball rock in the real version in like Japan. Ball Rock's name is M-Bison, right? And then somebody told the Japanese creators, like, "Yo, you can't just make a guy that's, like Mike Tyson, as Bob is loving him, and Bison, no." So they just switched the character names. >> The Larry's. >> So ball rock, so they call him ball rock, whatever. And he walks in to the party. And everybody's excited to see 50, right? Like a lot of these actors they never met. And he walks in, and he goes, "Hey man, I just wanna thank you guys all so much for being a part of my movie." (laughing) He's called in court at dinner. And he goes like pick up a champagne glass. It's not even champagne in it. And he like spills it a little bit on me, right? And he goes, "Dude, I'm so sorry, bro, here." And he takes off his Rolex. >> Get the fuck out of here. >> And he goes, "Here, so I should take that." Now I'm so sorry. I can't wait. >> I'm not taking his Rolex. He goes, "No, bro, I feel horrible." And I was like, "There's no way you feel that bad." And he's like, "No, seriously, you gotta take it." I'm like, "I'm not gonna take it." He goes, "If your wife was here, she would take it." It's just not just there. And I go, "I'm not gonna take that." And he goes, "You sure?" I'm like, "Yeah, because I know that later three guys will break into my apartment and take this back." And I don't want to put my family to the back. (laughing) >> Run it back, that's what it is. >> And 50's like, "No, bro, I couldn't get my guys with the felonies in a country." (laughing) >> Why didn't they just get Mike Tyson to play borrow? >> I'm glad 50 is, but why couldn't Mike? 'Cause he's not that old. >> Maybe two on the nose, you know? You also want somebody with some acting shops and experience. I also think if you see Mike Tyson in anything, you can't-- >> You can't get back Mike Tyson. >> Yeah, especially with the gloves and everything. It'll be like, "Yeah, who the fuck is borrowin'?" >> Also 50 is 50, it's his movie. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? >> He said they're gonna spend off with just him. >> That he, like day one, he's already telling people, it's amazing. He's just a force on set. >> And it's gonna happen. >> He will shit into existence. >> It's going to happen. If the movie's gonna be good, though. >> Yo, bro, this movie is gonna-- And I'm not saying this on some actorship. Everything is made in the edit. So I can't control the edit. But what I will say is, you are gonna go see, if the edit matches like what we were doing in there, and I have no reason to think it shouldn't. I really tell it to people, they're working on it. But like, you're just gonna be very surprised by what you see. Like, the way it looks, you're not gonna expect, it's not a shot like a Marvel movie. >> Wow. You're gonna walk in there, you're gonna be like, what? >> It comes out next year. >> Yeah, it will be like next October. >> Man. >> There's a scene where I got emotional. >> You have the crying scene? >> You might see me crying in the scene. >> So you must be in the movie a lot, if you had to be over there for too much. >> Yeah, like I'm like with the main guy. So I like play like his manager in it, without giving away too much. So basically, most of the stuff he's in, I'm in. >> Okay. >> So that's why I had to be there. >> Who's the main guy, Roman Reigns? >> No, no, Roman is the bad guy. >> He's like Akuma or Akuma, I guess it's called, but Ken. So it's Ryu and Ken. >> This is a big, I don't think people realize how big a deal this movie is. Do you know what Street Fighter meant to our childhood? I guess like Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter. >> And before Mortal Kombat, it was Street Fighter. >> Yes. >> Street Fighter started fighting games like for us. So the crazy thing about being on the movie is that everybody around our age is super excited. Because they all have stories, core childhood memories of playing the game, putting their quarter on the little game, playing the Marvel versus Capcom game. Remember that one? So like everybody's excited. When they saw Cody Rhodes put the "Gile" hair on, like the whole. >> Everybody was buzzed. The young kids don't really know it. But I think what people are starting to realize about movies now is that just putting out a movie that's a good story won't necessarily get people to go to theater. You got to tap into existing IP. >> You got to tap into emotions, feelings, yeah. >> There's nothing you care about more than the shit that impacted you as a kid. >> This might revitalize the video game. Because I was thinking about that, you know, even watching you all shoot them. Like, they've done mad Mortal Kombat. Why did they stop doing Street Fighter? >> Well, they did one with John Club Van Damme, which was like horrible. >> I don't even remember that shit. >> And like John Club Van Damme. >> Oh, the movie, no, I don't remember. And it was bad, bro. It was like, John Club Van Damme is playing "Gile." God was supposed to be like the most American guy ever. And John Club Van Damme got a French accent or whatever the fuck you got. >> I don't make no sense. >> Yeah. >> What would you say was like the most surprising thing on set just being there for that long that you weren't anticipating maybe? >> So I didn't know how collaborative it was going to be. You know, like, basically like the director, Katal is the man. And also the producers, like the guys at Legendary, like Kaelin J. Everybody, there wasn't like this ego. Like sometimes directors and you need a lot of ego to meet like a director. It's like you're a vision, but like they were super collaborative. So they were, if you had ideas, they wanted to hear them. And when everybody cares about the movie, like they start really caring about like what their character would do and stuff, like on some real like actor shit, at any time you see an interview sounds wild corny, so even like saying it, I'm like, I'm like cringing, but it makes it better to be thinking what your character would do in every situation. And like we would just take their scenes and like make them funny or build them and make them more, like we were changing shit kind of on the fly, like it was, so to me that was the thing that I was most scared of. I was like, I want to just be sitting around all day doing nothing and then saving lines. But instead it was like, all right, what are we gonna do to this scene? How are we gonna make this better than what's on the paper? And yeah, you're gonna see some wild shit. >> You said something interesting. You said the movie's made in the edit, man, I did not realize that until I started producing films. And the shit, like the amount of shit that they shoot that doesn't get used. And when you got to like watch these three hour long cuts and you like, huh, like you should, and I literally heard a producer say, here's a good movie in there. >> In there. >> What the fuck? >> No, you're right. It's like, entire people get cut out of movies. >> Yes. >> Whole scenes, whole actors, I think it's not, it's not. >> But that is what happened. You saw it happen on, I think it was the Formula One movie, did you hear about that? >> I didn't watch it. >> There was a girl who was in the movie. I think she was the love interest of one of the characters, and she was promoting the movie. And then she was just completely cut out. >> Just gone. >> How the fuck you do that, how you just get rid of the whole character? >> I guess that storyline didn't play a part in it, but. >> But it was fucking, and again, I didn't even think I liked acting. I'll be honest, until I did the movie. And I was going to ask you that too, because we had Cardi on Breakfast Club recently, and Cardi says, she don't like acting. I don't want to do it, so she don't like being on sets. She don't like the hurry up and wait shit. She was like, she don't like doing it. She does not want to be an actor, because I could, I- about it was a movie that she was scheduled to do and I think like the week that they were supposed to start filming she pulled out you were supposed to shoot that movie prepare my you use like now I'm not even gonna do that right now that is something to that is like I don't really like to do I always tell people like it's like I don't like sets I don't like waking up at a certain time I don't I don't like having like a set schedule set schedule is is just this is why I never finish college like it's just certain things are just not for you service responsibilities are not for you like I had to do things my way my time I don't know how people do it which by the way I respect that's gonna mean because you got to go with your you got your instinct you know it might fuck up some business but you got to make yourself happy and it's a big commitment you're there for months you being a stand-up comedian probably podcast the do you like acting like that so in a traditional movie where it's just like show up say that line we're gonna record it from this angle this angle then go home like sit in the trailer for 12 hours I'll go fucking crazy yeah like I my brain is not built for that like I want to talk shit I want to yeah but the fact that we were allowed to like kind of be collaborative in this movie it's like in between time isn't it boring because you're thinking about what would this scene be what would this character do how could we make this funnier and it really made me go I would like to be in a movie but also be producing it is that then you're thinking about not just your scene like we were around there watching other people scenes like pitching lines that would make them funnier you know what I mean like a lot of times like in entertainment motherfuckers only care about themselves so they do their shit and then they go home but this wasn't like that like people are shown up to set when they weren't even there and just hang it wow I mean y'all weren't as crazy it's not like they had any place to go but you know you're in Sydney like you could party in real city and like fucking rice spices walk rice spice might be there yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah streaming listen that is a great thing to think about because you know we definitely want to do a movie I want to do a brilliant putty it's you play grint this one I called mashup written by James gun pro you know he be at me when I was out there get the fuck - I think he saw us, he said thank you for the kind words. I think he saw us talking about Superman on this, on this podcast. - Get the fuck out of here. - Where the fuck? - You got me checking my videos. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I left you in my room. - You left them on red. - Somebody I know was just with James. Oh, no, it was fucking Alex. Fucking James, gonna record it at one of the fucking WTS. - No way. - Yes, motherfucker, he tell us shit. - Yo James, come on the pot, bro. - How the fuck you know? - James, we need you on the pot. - Yo James, he is, I think he's a phenomenal comedy writer. - He's the goat, and he's not even writing actual comedy. - That's what makes it fun. - Yes. - That's what I even, we were talking even with not to make it about this, but it was like, the more you can get people, convince people that the drama is real. The funnier the funny parts will be because they're breaking up the severity of the drama. - Yes. - It's like a horror movie, like the greater the tension, the bigger the fright. - Think about Friday. - Friday, people's looking Friday as a comedy. That's a fucking thriller. - No, it's a drama. - That's a drama thriller. - No, it's a horror movie. - It's a horror movie. - It's a fucking Chris Tucker. Old's big worm money, and big worm wants to kill them. You know, you don't have my money by this day. You're going to die. - Yeah. - Think about that. - Yeah. - But it's all the funny that's, that's it, you know what I mean? - That's-- - Coming to America is a love story. - Yeah. - Actually a drama. Think about how, you know, that must feel to be like, damn, I don't want to marry this woman just because I'm supposed to. I got to break all these rural traditions. I'm a go to America, live like a poor person to try to find love. All the comedy is within that amazing drama thriller story. - And that's the fuck you need. - And that's what everybody who does it right, yes. It's like, I actually think the funniest movies are the ones where we genuinely believe the drama. - Yes. Not even just movies, real-life scenarios. Please, Johnson, Boney Warrior. - Yeah. - Hilarious. - But he's raping me. [laughter] [laughter] - That James Gunn's new is character. We got a T-shirt about police. - Oh, you ain't seen a peacemaker. - You know what I've heard. - Oh my god. [laughter] But Aaron-- I mean, you fucking Aaron Magruder did, please, Johnson, as the Boney Warrior on the Boundox. People laugh at that shit made sketches. But it's-- oh, this man was-- - Real. - He was on a, what was that show called? "Date Line" or some shit? He was on "Date Line" on one of them shit. - I saw him on a dating show. Like, an online dating show. - You see what I was saying? - Him and, uh-- - He was on a guy's name? - Well, he was from Atlanta. I think he was, like, thugs. - Woody? - Yeah, him and Woody. - Oh, I did see-- what-- it was "Pop the Balloon." - Pop-- it was something like "Pop the Balloon." - Yeah, they're both there, and like-- - But think about that. - Yeah. - How scary that is. - He was raping me. - I mean, yeah. - Put you watched it in every comedy writer's mind went. - Yeah. - That's hilarious. - He describes it like dessert. - No, no, no, no. - Did you hear it? Have you heard them? - In his prison, "Booty." "Booty" was, uh, more important than "Footy." "Booty." "A man's butt." "Having some booty" was more important than "Drinking Wild 'Em." - I like "Booty." - It is-- it is just visceral way he describes it. - I'm-- I'm-- I'm gonna be like 50s there. I wanna speak that in the fruition. "A brilliant idiot's flagrant guy-cold mash-up comedy written by James Gunn." - James, we need you. - You know what I'm saying? - I need you. - Like that shit would be hilarious. - And serious. - Even though I saw Kevin them doing Kevin, I knew about the script anyway. But Kevin, Druski, and Kai-- - Yes. - They have a movie coming out. - It's a murder who done it. It's a mystery who done it. - Yeah. - Like there's a dead body, and it's called "The Livestream from Hell." - Yeah. - So it's like, "Yo, that's what you do. You gotta put these funny scenarios rooted in a high-stakes drama situation." - Wait. Where is that-- is that in theaters? Is that streaming? Where is that gonna be? - I don't know where it's gonna be, but if they put in whatever streaming platform it's gonna be on, it's gonna break right? - See you later. - It's just interesting because when I was out there, obviously a lot of the actors, they're obsessed with film. You know what I mean? That is their thing, right? And we were just talking about the industry in general. And we had this conversation and it was like, "Who are the young?" There's a difference between a movie star and an actor, like a big actor. And like a movie star, they were defining as someone who, if they're in the movie, people show up. Okay? Like, for example, like Chris Evans, I think that's his name, right? - Captain America. - The guy who played Captain America. Like, amazing is Captain America. Phenomenal. But are we coming because of Chris Evans? Or are we becoming because of the IP that is-- - The IP. Absolutely. Because Chris has been on this stuff. - Exactly. But Leonardo DiCaprio can be in a movie about something we don't even know, and we're gonna show up for sure. - How did the news should do? How did one battle out there know? - Yeah, everybody's talking about that. Like, the most cynical comedian folks that I know that say every movie sucks are like, "This is the best movie." I'm gonna go watch it this weekend. I did a screener for it last week and then I say, "You didn't even watch it?" - I didn't even say it, bro. - Bro, I didn't even say it. They asked me to do it. Warner Brothers asked me to do it. - You posted about it and everything. - And I did. But, you know, they paid me to do it. But the thing I liked about it, it was, you know, I liked anything free for people. - Yeah. - So like, okay, all these people can come for free. But they was like, and also the cast wants to come. I'm like, "Oh, I do it." That's because that's the-- And there was some surprising audience. - Yeah. - So we did it at the AMC theater. Theater was packed. All of these people came just to, you know, because I did the screening. - And then-- - Did you walk, sound? - Leo Gianatella. - Gianatella. What's the Spanish, Spanish guy name? - Oh, Benicio del Toro. - Benicio del Toro. - Tominolac. - The derider Paula-- - Oh, Leo Sanders. - What's his name? - The director. - Paul Thomas Anderson. Everybody was there except for Regina Hall and Sean Pitt. So, all right, yeah. - Jason Cannon. - Yeah, Leonardo DiCaprio was there. - Benicio del Toro, Gianatella, Chase Infinity. And there was another young lady there too. Yeah, it was a black woman. Can't remember her name. But this was Chase's first movie. Can you imagine your first movie being with Leonardo DiCaprio? And Paul Anderson said it took him 20 years to write this film. - I love it. - He said he's had this idea for 20 years. What is her name? Yeah, Shayna McChayna McHale. - Shayna McHale. - Yeah. He, bro, let me tell you how crazy this is. I hadn't seen the movie yet, right? So, we bought the cast out before the movie. And I didn't stay for it. I can't believe you didn't stay for it. So, I hear Paul look at Shayna and go, "Jungle pussy." I'm like, "Whoa, wait a minute now. Do I say something?" I don't want to be the world's liberal here, right? But do I'm like, "How you just don't turn to the black woman to say "Jungle pussy" when nobody else reacted? And so, I'm like, "Hey, maybe this is an inside joke with them." That's her name in the movie. I didn't know. He did give her that name. He wrote the movie. But I don't care. It's the movie, though. I was a little confused. And he said, "We're in front of everybody." I'm like, "Yo." - And this before the movie. - Before the movie. - Before the movie. - Oh, he saw it. Oh, no, bro. We got to tell him wait for open weekend to be yellow, "Jungle pussy," a black woman. Come on. Come on, Paul. Come on. It did 22 million. I don't know if that's good or bad. I know the budget was crazy. This movie is going to be great. The amount of conversation around the movie is very few movies lately. that I've heard this much talk about it. Like, and they did social media right, they hit the podcast, they did the event this live like that, like. - And you know what it is, a thriller, comedy. You cannot tell that by the trailer. By the trailer, you do not see any comedy in that movie. - I heard it's like, fire is funny, shit. - That's what I heard too. I heard that shit is hilarious. I'm going this week, I'm gonna go Friday, actually. - Yeah. - I also don't like watching movies that screen is, bro. - You don't, yeah, you don't like being around lots of people. - Nah, I wanna go in on a matinee, going to the back of the theater, giving my popcorn on my peanut, eminence, it's like, it's peaceful for me. Like, you know what I mean? Especially after a long week, you know what I mean? Listening to fucking, you know rappers with their Twitter rants and all of this shit. Like, it's like, it's like a good week, you know what I mean? - Yeah, you need to check out. - I wanna check out, like, you know what I mean? I don't care about this shit, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - I'm glad you're back, man. - Me too. - What did you miss the most? What was the story that had you like, oh, fuck no. Like, I can't even concentrate on this fucking strip. That's Charlie Kirk, that's Charlie Kirk shit. - Wow. - That's Charlie Kirk shit, it was wild. - Wow. - I feel like a million things happened. Like, that's why I did that piece. I did a little piece on the truck, it was there. And it was like, I had like a few days off. - And I was like, I gotta put my brain to work for something. But, yeah, man, I'm trying to think, what else? What else? - What shocked you the most about the Charlie Kirk shit? - I think it was like, how quickly-- - It was politicized? - Yeah. - Same, you know what I mean? Like that. - Yeah, and it like, it kind of demoralized me a little bit. Like, it kind of made me sad, because, what did anybody learn from it? Nothing. It's like any event, yeah, we live in like the social media age or whatever, where like, there's just so much information you can confirm whatever you feel, but like, think about it, nobody learned anything from it. Whatever everybody already felt, they just put on top of the issue. So like, the second it happened, they found out that the kid's dad was MAGA, whatever like that, and they're like, see, it's one of you guys. - Well, was he MAGA or just a registered Republican? - Exactly, whatever, he's a registered Republican, right? And then, and then, the conservators found out that his girl was a trainee, whatever like that, and then it was like, see, this is what happened. - Was that confirmed? - He looked like he wasn't getting no pussy. A pussy, whatever, I don't even know what to do. To see, to see. (laughs) - I don't know. - But, and then the conspiracy theorists were like, Israel did it. It's like, what everybody already felt before it happened, they just painted on top of what happened. - Yeah. - And, and it was just like, the dehumanization of it too. Like, just the people that were seemingly celebrating it. It was, it was just crazy. It's like, wow, people really, they're not seeing each other as human beings. I think that, you know, I like, I like Wayne W. Dyer, right? - Yeah. - Wayne W. Dyer always talks about letting go of your need to be right. And I think that everybody needs to let go of their need to be right. You should, I pulled this up just like, you should challenge your ego, cultivate humility and empathy, focus on understanding and collaboration rather than personal victory and practice mindfulness and self-compassion. We just live in an era where everybody wants to be right. And sometimes these situations aren't even about right. Like, you should be trying to learn something else from said situation. Like, what is there to learn from this Charlie Correct situation? And that's how I look at every single situation that happens. What are we learning? - Yeah, what is change? - What is learning that then is just noise. - Exactly. And like, what, how is this gonna change us? How are we gonna reflect on this and see what we could do better? Like, clearly, there's a lot of dehumanization going along. So like, what do we do about that? Like, how do we start to see people as humans? And the Charlie thing is like, even talking about it, it exposed to me, 'cause I started watching a bunch of his things. He DM me before. - Really? - Charlie. And he did something-- - You did talk? - Are you? - Yeah, we had like a little interaction. And he did something that I really, I really respect. And I understand that he is very like, you know, he's very politicized and the algorithm has created different versions of him for different people and all that kind of stuff. But he saw a headline of me and we'd never spoke. And he hit me up and he was just like, hey, or maybe we had done before or something like that, but then he hit me and he says, hey, I saw this headline, it seems like you're saying this thing. Is that what you mean? And I was like, no, they're actually taking this thing out of context and this is what I was actually trying to say and blah blah, he's like-- - You understood, you got it. - Bro, I cannot, there are friends, people that I would consider friends, people that I've helped, people that I've gotten visas to work in America. - A coach? - No. (laughs) - Don't bless those H1B visas all. (laughs) - Not like that have jumped to make content off of a headline that was taken out of context about me or something that people are framing that I said that wasn't that good. And they jumped to make content, they jumped to monetize it, jumped to get clicks and views without simply just messaging me and asking for clarification. - Well, somebody like Charlie had the different lens, right? And the reason I say that is because he's probably a person that is dated after him all the time. - Bro, yeah, I get it. - I honestly think, I know this is like, and again, I understand how radioactive he is, right? Like, there are different, what this whole thing exposed to me is just like how fractured social media has made Americans but also just like the world. - Oh, it's over. - Because like, no, no, for real, 'cause think about like, there is a different version of Charlie Kirk, depending on who you are. And the algorithm will feed you the things that confirm your belief about that person. So if you're a like God-fearing, right-wing Christian, you're gonna get all this content about Charlie that speaks to that about how important family is to him, about how important his Christianity, his beliefs are to him and you're like, wow, this is a really great man. And then if you're a person that doesn't like conservative rhetoric and you think conservatives are bigots, you're gonna get all of those 30-second clips with no context of all the things that he said. They're like, oh, I don't trust black pilots or whatever the thing is that. You're not gonna get the whole conversation where that happened. You're not gonna get anything that would actually give you nuance. So it's like the algorithm flattens all of us. You, me, Charlie, everybody into these two dimensional avatars. And then people watch four or five clips where people are reacting to that person and then they go, oh, I guess this is what everybody thinks to that person. - And then people feel really confident having these strong opinions on people that they do not know at all. - I've written about this, and I think it might have been to get honest with that line, but we, this air, it's like the multiverse, right? So that's why when people say like, you know, oh, I don't like Charlemagne, it doesn't offend me. And the reason it doesn't offend me is because I don't know what version of Charlemagne you witnessed. You know what I'm saying? Like, it don't bother me. You might have saw something from 10 years ago. You might have saw something from recently that you don't like, but then you also might have saw me over here talking about mental health. You might have saw me over here talking about, you know, having a political take. There's so many different versions of us that exist. Like, I can literally go down my timeline for one story and it'll be like, you didn't support Kamala Harris. And then literally the next comment will be like, see, this is why Democrats will never win because people like Charlemagne can't stop glazing Kamala Harris. Like, literally, it'll be the comments back to back. This, I'm talking about, this happened one minute, this happened the next minute. So it's just like, what are you supposed to do with that? I'm not, I'm not upset about anybody's opinion of me because I just don't know what they saw to have that opinion. - So back in the day, there was this thing that I think Jon Stewart referred to as like the laundering of news. And it was like the Fox News, the New York Post pipeline. I don't know if you've heard about this. So like on Fox News, there'd be like an opinion piece, right? And then that would happen like earlier in the day. And then by the night that opinion piece would be reported on by the news. And then in the morning, it would be the front page of the post. So you've taken opinion and then you turn it into fact. - Yeah. - And now we don't really trust like traditional media anymore, right? Like, so this is part of Trump going fake news. It's also part of like legacy media pushing us into fucking wars and lying about weapons and mass destruction for years. So we have like Lawson Faith. But for some reason, we believe if we see a random person on TikTok saying something in their house. - And they don't know what the fuck they talking about either. - Exactly, none of these people, they don't know. There's no fact checking nothing. But what it is is, we don't, it's not that we believe them. It's if we see four or five videos in a row, we think that's what everyone feels. - Yeah. - So the algorithm gives you this sense of, this is what the world is feeling. And then we start going, well, if I don't feel that way, then I'll be an outsider. So then we go, I guess that's how I feel. - Yeah, I hear people say stuff like that and be like, you know, this conversation is gone all around the world 'cause that's what their algorithm makes them feel. It's probably 20 people. - Oh. - Like, it's literally probably 20 fucking people. You know what a best conversation I saw about the Charlie Kirk shit. Time to Hisi Coates and Ezra Klein. - Yeah, yeah. - You know why? 'Cause it was a good faith conversation. - Yes. - And it was two people who had two different opinions. They agreed to disagree. And I don't think either one of them were really that far apart on what they wanted their ultimate goal to be with said conversation. I think both of them were looking for sanity. - Yeah. - In all of this chaos. - Yeah. And in time, Hisi had a perspective. And Ezra had a perspective. And I don't even think Ezra's perspective was what Tyna Hisey thought it was. Like Tyna Hisey, and I'm probably pronouncing Tyna Hisey's name all wrong, but y'all know I can't pronounce it. - Just do go with coats. - Coats, Mr. Coats. I think that Mr. Coats was saying he didn't like the whitewashing of Charlie Kirk, right? Because you should be able to discuss somebody's when they pass, you should be able to discuss them in their whole totality. Like you shouldn't, nothing should be fragmented. Everything should be on the table. And you can acknowledge what happened to him was wrong. - Yes. What happened to him was wrong. What happened to him was tragic. I wouldn't wish that on anybody, right? 'Cause I wouldn't want something like that to happen to me, just 'cause somebody doesn't agree with my opinion. - Andre. - But we should still be able to discuss their whole legacy and its totality. And I guess that's what he didn't like with by Ezra Cline's approach. And I don't even think that's what Ezra was trying to do. - No, I don't think I think what Ezra was trying to do is basically say like we have to why, if you actually want to win an election, you have to wide the scope of acceptability of the people into your coalition. - So it's like if Democrats are gonna win, they can't just be pointing fingers in saying that people aren't good enough and that they're not liberal enough and they're not accepting enough, right? - That's why he brought up the deplorable. - Yes, with Hillary Clinton. And like I actually think what Ezra is saying is like he's operating in the real world. Ezra is going, "Hey, I actually care about winning elections." - Kind of hosy, too, though. But hosy said, "I would never send to deplorable comments." - I've been obsessing recently for a piece I've been writing about the Hillary Clinton deplorables comment and I wanna play it. - You know, did you just be grossly journalistic? - You can put half of Trump supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. (audience laughing) All right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, you name it. And unfortunately, there are people I have. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that he's only have 11,000 people. Now I have 11 million. Each week's and each week's. They are offensive, hateful, mean-series, rhetoric. That's some of those folks. They are irritable. Thankfully, they are not irritable. - What do you think when you hear that? - She probably shouldn't have said it. - I think it's true. - I mean, it's probably not how I would say it. But, you know, I mean, the things that I would say, you know, I probably would say what I said earlier, you know, in the end of you about the force of, and I've been, I mean, as I've been saying, it's probably since as long as we've been talking. You know, but I'm not, I just want to be clear about something. I shouldn't be running for president of the United States. And my expectations for the rhetoric of writers, intellectuals, journalists, et cetera, is very, very different than what the expectation should be for people who, you know, expect a hold office. - But what Ezra is doing is like, when you actually want to win an election, you have to have this type of like, language and rhetoric, right? - And that's exactly why they were on the same page. Remember that, before you walked in, I was telling Chris the reason I liked that combo and the thing that I think is getting lost in that is what Tana Hasey was saying about how you win elections. He essentially was saying, like, I don't want Barack Obama saying certain things, 'cause I know he can't win. - Who was saying that? Tana Hasey. So I don't know if it was about reparations or not. It might have been about reparations, or he was talking, I think it might have been about reparations 'cause he was talking about how it was an article he wrote called. - He said the thing about, it was Kamala remember, he was like, I had to go speak to these people who are Palestinian people who are suffering. - That's right. - Based on what's happening in Palestine right now, but I had to tell them, I got to support this woman who was doing nothing during the Biden administration, administration would continue to do nothing afterwards because of something I want. - Kamala Harris was running to be the first black woman to be president of the United States. You cannot imagine how animated black folks were. And some would argue the base of the Democratic party, black women, you know what I mean? We're gonna, you know, see this thing. She was not taking a position that I thought was particularly moral. I had to talk in front of black audiences about that. And I had to do the other thing, which was go before American audiences here, Palestinian American audiences here, and say, look, I'm with you. You can be mad at me. You probably will be mad at me. I get it, but for me, politics is the, you know, the less up to evil. We've been fighting this battle for a long time. We have never had the luxury of electing people that represented the best of us. And this is why I'm voting for her. - And like that's a mature way of looking at politics. - That's right. - But the problem is the algorithm does not care about mature ways of looking at anything. If you look at a lot of the reaction to that interview, it's not same conversation, it's finger pointing. It's, oh, Ezra missed this. And oh, Thomas, see this, and it's just like, 'cause that's what works, the rage made works online. And I actually hit up Ezra about it. I was like, you're doing the right thing, but you got it. I hope you're ready for when you're a nuanced person, you get to piss off everybody. 'Cause there's so much reward online and engaging in saying, oh, this person sitting on the fence or this person, maybe we need to get closer to fence. - I enjoyed the conversation. I enjoyed the conversation. I thought they probably agreed on more things than they disagreed on, but when they disagreed, it was just a civil, good, faith conversation. - Yes. - Russell Friends, which helps. - Yes, they talked about fair, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And then, you know, there was a point where I think that like, I think Thomas, he was like, I have a different responsibility on my journalist, right? So I think I talk about these things and I share my opinions on this. I'm not like running for elected office, et cetera. - Yes, but that's real though, right? And you know who's dealing with that right now? It's on Ron Mundani. Like it's different when you are activists and you're saying certain things, but now you're running for office. - Gotta build a call. - You get into the finish line. You like, oh. - Gotta pull people in. - And you know, saying people that were supporting them, you got a lot of people that's just like, what are you doing? Why did you say that? Blah, blah, blah, this is like, yo, he's trying to win an election, y'all. - Yeah. - Like, if you really believe he is, who he says he is and you believe that he's going to implement change, let him go out there and motherfucking cook. But, okay, but it's not good enough for people. And what people can't do is look at human beings as three-dimensional beings, right? It's like, it's so funny. There are opinions that I'm sure a Charlie Kirk has or a ton of Hossie codes or any of these figures, right? Not saying they're the same, but like there are opinions that they might have that you disagree with. There are opinions that you disagree with with your dad or your grandfather. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Your family members might have really bigoted opinions about certain things that you think are deplorable. But at the same time, you love how they treat their grandma. They are every single one of your football games. You know, they love you more than anything in the world. So it doesn't mean you-- - But would you love them the same way if they had the ability in scale to impact people's lives? - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, let me get to that point. Because I think what you're saying is what I'm saying is, you have the ability to just see them as a human, right? You see things that they have that are flaws. But they're still a human. But right now, with the way that we consume all information on this video, there is no humanity. All you are are a collection of ideas that I hate or a collection of ideas that I love. There's extreme reactions. And the problem with that is that if you're a collection of ideas that I hate, right? Then somebody shoots you and then people celebrate because the thing that you hate, instead of looking at that person like, that's also a father and that's also somebody who's trying to make the world a better place in what he saw and he was driven by God. - You're absolutely right, Joe. What you're saying is we're making everybody disposable. - Yes, we're making everybody disposable. Even when we say things like, oh, they're canceled, they're like, you're literally making humans disposable. We have more empathy for people outside of our country that we disagree with than people inside of our country. And I understand that proximity increases fear, which is what you're talking about, right? But like, there are people, there are people I'm sure around the world that we deeply care about. Like obviously, you see, like people bring this up all the time, they're like, how stupid is it that there are queers for Palestine? Like they bring up this argument and it's like, that's actually not stupid. That's incredible humanity. Carrying about someone's life, even though they might disagree with yours. That's not a stupid person. That's an amazingly beautiful, open-minded person that goes, that person disagrees with me on maybe the most fundamental thing that I care about. But they're still a fucking human being, so I want them to exist. That, like, I wish that we had that type of empathy for our fellow Americans and not just the people abroad. There's got to be some sort of me going on in Palestine, right? Like, I'm just saying, there's got to be some doubt. I know it's a religious thing, but it's got to be, right? I mean, the reason hummus was invented was lube. (laughing) (laughing) - There's the famous quote about, I mean, it's-- - Thomas? - No. (laughing) - What is the quote, Chris? - There's a town in (beep) in the quote, is the birds fly over it with one wing 'cause they have to cover their ass with their other wings. - Cah, dang it! - Oh, love it, that is really good. - Who the fuck is that about? - I don't know who, who what? - But I read it. - Who's fucking the birds? - Oh, Jesus. - If it moves. - If it moves. - Or do you fucking anything? - Yeah, yeah. - Someone already got that goat. (laughing) - That goat, that goat's tired. - Yeah. - Yeah. - You're gonna have a long day. - Why they don't want the women though? - No, they do want the women, man. But you gotta marry 'em. - You don't gotta marry them though. You gotta marry Nate 'em. - Maybe that's, I'm gonna, let me read 'em alone. - What? - I can make that joke, I'm Scottish. (laughing) You say we fuck sheep. They say we fuck sheep. (upbeat music) - Well, what else, man? It was, it's a lot. I don't even know what the fucking begin. Oh, the government shut down. I don't even know what that means, bro. That means that people, federal workers won't be getting paid. That means federal workers will be getting furloughed. That means that you know, if you're not concerned. No, that means that even if you're an essential worker, you still gotta go to work. You still don't get a check. That means that active duty troops still gotta report duty and not get paid. - Oh, wow. - It's silly. And you know, the illest thing about this is that Republicans have found a way to blame this on Democrats, but Republicans y'all have all the power. - Why, dear, don't they control everything? - So who are the dissenting votes? - They blamed it all, I've seen them, I've seen them blame it all. One person, AOC, I don't even know. I saw Nancy on Fox. I think Nancy was on Fox and Nancy made me say, I just want y'all to know that the government is shut down because of a former bartender from the Bronx. - Everyone needs to know that the government is shutting down tonight because of a bartender from the Bronx. Chuck Schumer is so afraid of AOC primarying him for the U.S. Senate in New York. That's what this is all about. So he's catering to the far, far left of his party. The other thing is they'd rather fund healthcare for illegal aliens than pay our troops. Like that's where we are tonight. Good luck with that in the midterm. Like God damn. But how come Democrats can't message that Republicans y'all have all the power? Y'all are the ones in control. Y'all are the government right now. Y'all chose to do this. - I think the tricky thing with Dems right now is the establishment Democrats have nothing to offer. And the American people know that. - Dems are walking in the Congress with one hand over the asshole. - They walk in the guff and one hand over the asshole. 'Cause they get fucked at every turn. - Lindsey Graham is right there. (all laughing) - Lindsey is like, finally. (all laughing) - No, but like the established ones really just have nothing to offer the American people. The new Democrats, right? The Zora Mamdani's, the AOC's, and then Bernie, the guy who has been spirited this movement. They have something to offer. And the reason I know that they have something to offer is they don't talk about Trump constantly. Oh, Mamdani talks about New York. He talks about what he wants to do in New York. Like his ideas or hate his ideas, that's fine. You can be critical of someone's ideas. This is America. But he actually has something to offer. He believes he has something to offer people. He goes, hey, we're gonna do things to help your life. The establishment Democrats, this is kind of what I realized. I was like, oh, they got nothing to offer. So the only thing they could do is go, he's bad. Look how bad he is. - I watched him on CNN. And he did an interview with Aaron Burnett the other day. And it was a good interview. And yes, he was just dropping what he wanted to do all his policies. And they asked him about Trump calling him a communist. He didn't even stay on that too long. - Bro, think about your restaurant, right? How do you promote people to come into your restaurant? Do you say, yo, all those other restaurants are horrible. You don't wanna eat there, their food is bad. Or do you talk about how delicious your food is? If you got good food, tell me about it. But if you got nothing to sell, then all you can do is slander the opposition. - When Donnie is gonna be a home run, our big swing and a miss. - If he wins, if he wins. - If, listen, if he wins, and it's a swing and a miss, right? Like that is a devastating blow. But I think that the swing and a miss might come from him not being able to implement the thing. - Simple as that, but that's why it's a swing and a miss. - So it's like, you still got a temperate people's expectations. I believe that I keep telling people, go back and watch the president Obama said when they was campaigning with Kamala and the way he spoke about how sometimes, and I'm paraphrasing about how sometimes Democrats just promise too much. You just promise the world, the people. Politicians do that in general. Like everybody just, they promise the world, promise the world. And then people are micromanaging things so much now. Like they're like, oh, you said you was gonna do X, Y and Z and you didn't do this. So they're gonna be on Mandani about getting a lot of the things that he said he was going to do done. And when he's not gonna be able to implement those things, since people don't understand politics, they're gonna crucify him for it. And then he's gonna also have to play ball, right? - I mean, hasn't Trump promised 500 things in the first month of his second administration, nothing came to pass. It doesn't seem to impact him. - But he won twice already. - No, but you know why it doesn't impact him? - Why? - Is because there's nothing else that is being offered up. All it is is whining and crying about Trump. Tell us, will the Democrat come out and tell us how they're gonna make people's lives better? - I think they have, it just doesn't resonate. - Who? And I think I get emails every day from the game Jeffries and they're laying out the garbage, but that's to my point. People are laying out plans and giving specifics. - What? - Most people just want to-- - What does the game specifically say? - I mean, I can go into my email right now. I've been, definitely got emails me every day of the week. I can't, I can't definitely got his butt hole covered. - So the point is, we don't want to hear it anymore from a certain part of that party, right? And a part of it is that Mandami has new ideas that have kind of risen above the noise, but I think it's also just like fresh energy on a certain level is resonating with people. - I agree, but I think, you know, listen, if he wins, like I said, he's gonna have to get things done. - Well, what does he have to do to win? - Oh, right, now you need some black people and some Jewish people on his side. - Good luck. (laughing) - Well, yeah, Mandami's a perfect example of what we're talking about about like the flattening of people. Like there are certain people that truly just believe he is a anti-Semitic communist. They literally believe that is who he is as a person. And then there's other people that believe that he's a young smart liberator that's trying to help people that are struggling to make it through in a very expensive city. - This is the same person, and online, there are two different versions of him. - Maybe 10. - No, exactly, there's 20. There's a million different ones. And it's like-- - Muzzle has got mad at him another day 'cause he said he wanted to decriminalize prostitution. - Yeah. - When he was on Rosario Scotto, like he kind of had to explain that. - Do you support decriminalizing prostitution? - Yes, right now, what we see in this moment is we have an approach that is not putting safety first. What we saw with the previous mayoral administration was an end to the raids that we saw on sex workers, an end to prosecutions that were taking place of sex workers themselves. What we have to bring to City Hall is a focus on ending sex trafficking, on ensuring that there is no tolerance for violence against women, and also having safety at the cornerstone of all the policies that we pursue. And when we look at the findings of whether it be the World Health Organizations or the United Nations working group on the safety of girls and women, we find that decriminalization is one that actually provides the most safety for the sex workers. - And now a lot of people are concerned about the young girls being trafficked. - Well, mother was like, what do you mean you wanna decriminalize prostitution? I even know Diddy would love that, right? - And he won't do it anyway, so what's the difference? - What do you say he wanted to? - Well, I don't know. I think the crime thing is gonna be a challenge for him. - The crime thing is going to be a challenge for me. Like if I had one reservation, it's, I've often said I'm a little more like pro policing than probably a lot of other people who share ideas with me and like. - Bro, it doesn't work. This idea that like-- - The fun's not gonna work. - I like what he says when he says, refund social services though. - Sure, look, at the end of the day, you don't do something because you're worried about the punishment. I would love for us to sit here and go like, we're not gonna do it because, you know, forgiveness is important and we're all gonna know how, and if we had the right opportunity, we had the right money, we would do the right thing. You know how many friends of mine that came from like upper middle class backgrounds ended up selling drugs because it was fun and they were lazy? - Damn. - You know, it's just like, you need punishment. Unfortunately, we're human beings. - Well, we have punishment. I don't know if we have enforcement all the time. That's the issue. - I think there's a great, it's in the middle. - No really, I mean, it's cash and release. - Yeah, you're right. - It's like, you need, I promise you, you start punishing people, they'll stop committing crimes, immediately. But shows what happens when you punish them, right? Like catch and release is one thing. But okay, let's say you catch somebody who has been committing crimes, right? What happens when they're in the system? Are you actually trying to make them better? They call it a correctional system. Are you actually trying to correct anything? Are you teaching them how to eat better? Are you giving them proper mental health services? Are you letting them learn a trade that they can take with them when they do get out into society? Are you, you know, giving them a higher education while they're in there? Like don't just take these people and lock them up and throw away the key. They should be some rehabilitation for these people. And when they go back out in the streets, then maybe they can go find a job and don't have to resort to a life crime. If you're putting them in a situation when they go into these jails and now they just gotta survive one hand on their mother fucking butthole, you know what I'm saying? Literally, right? They become more savage, right? They become more of an animal. Like let's rehabilitate these people. I like sending them back out to the streets. - I like that. - But there is one line between this conversation and the Charlie Kirk conversation that I feel is at the core of it. But talk to me. - Guns. - Oh yeah. - Absolutely, I'm not like, listen, I'm a 2A all day. I believe in my right to bear arms, but I also believe in common sense gun reform. I believe in common sense gun legislation. Somebody's weapons don't need to be on the motherfuckers. - 80% of people believe in it. - There are too many, we thought we had a scooter problem. - No, no one thought that but you. - It's a gun problem one and one-ass. (laughing) - Guns and scooters, RIP, Eric Adams finally came out against scooters right at the end. - You said RIP, Eric Adams. - Who is candidates? - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - But he took a hard stand at the end. But took a hard stand on scooters at the end. I'll respect them for it. - Well Chris, I'm gonna be honest with you, this one is a problem. We ain't here talking about some real shit. - Yeah, you bring up scooters. - You bring up scooters. - Hey, violence is violence. - Gotta stop these school scooters, these school scooters, man. - Bro, school scooters, man, he's school, school, school. It's too many mass school scooters in America shows. We got it, stop. - Okay, it's too many mass school scooters, man. - It is crazy that like with Trump dropping the ball on so many of the things that he promised the Democrats haven't been able to like pick up steam. - Well, what is that? - Look, yo, we've said that. And we said this a million times. Yes, we know Trump is gonna fumble. Well, the Democrats don't have the team to pick up the fucking ball. - But why is that? And it seems that like people are, I don't know, maybe they're angry. I don't know, there's just like a lot of everybody. - I got thoughts, I got plenty of thoughts on that. I've said it a million times. I think because they have been acknowledged the big lie yet. - Yeah. - Now Kamala has done it. In her book, 107 days, the original scene did it. Corinne John Pierre got a book coming out. But more Democrats have to acknowledge the big lie. - Broad had old regime under the bus. And literally, it needs to be blown up. - The amount of people, let me tell you how, how like, what is it when you're not willing to reflect? You're just, you know, when you ignore your problems. What does that work? - Not having any mirrors? - I don't know. - No, but literally, it's like, I kind of can't believe I'm forgetting this word. But the lack of like self-reflection or-- - Self-awareness? - Yeah, self-awareness, or like you just not facing your problem. - Accountability? - You're ignoring the lack of accountability or whatever it is. Basically, the amount of like, DMs or like tweets or whatever, I'll get, right? About people that literally think that like me, Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn are responsible for Trump becoming president. That don't think that the fact that Democrats ran a dead guy and then a woman that couldn't talk had anything to do with it. Just shows that they're not willing to be in reality. Like, all these people are just like, let's ignore what's happening in our house and let's point blame, let's scapegoat, let's find out what's going on in the world. It's like, you ran a dead guy that we all knew were dead. You ghastled us into thinking that he wasn't and now you're writing books about how he was and then you ran a very unpopular candidate that says she was gonna do all the same things as the dead. - You ran the running mate of one of the most unpopular presidents ever and you gave her 107 days to do it when her approval ratings was lower than him. So not only did she have to dig herself up out of that grave, she got to do some allow me to reintroduce myself and that's impossible to do in 107 days. That's why I genuinely enjoyed her book, man. I enjoyed her book because there was accountability there. I've seen people say it's a book full of excuses. It is, but who doesn't have excuses when they lose, right? And by the way, I wouldn't even call them excuses so much as to say, - Does she acknowledge not coming on the pots? - Yes. - That's another revision. - She has a whole chapter about Joe Rogan. She said, people completely fucked that up. She actually said, and I hold on, I mean, make sure I'm getting that right. She actually said it was Rogan's team that was not being honest about that situation. - I mean, I bet. - Let me make sure. - Man, I know for a fact her team is lying about us, like 100% fact. - Yeah, she said she wanted to appear on Rogan's podcast on October 25th, 2024, but he chose the interview Donald Trump instead. She alleges that Rogan later made false claims that her campaign had placed restrictions on topics for the interview in late 2024 Harris campaign and an offer for a one hour offsite interview in DC where Rogan assisted on an open-ended end-studio conversation in Austin, which her team rejected. Age suggested that some of her more progressive advisors were concerned about the optics of an appearance on Rogan's podcast, given his history of controversial remarks. She talked about all of this in the book. - But it's just so like, it's just so interesting that like the revisionist history is like Trump wins because he comes on these comedians podcast. - As opposed to the other side just being bad. - That though that the other side was also invited onto, like how are we responsible for their bad decisions? - Like you're going to be talking about this till the day you die. - Who is me? - Yes. - Why? - Because it's actually a moment in time, whether we realize it or not. You don't realize it till you, like damn, this isn't a book. Like you read these things, they're in books like, we're part of history. - Of course. - Like whether you want to, whether you want to be or not. - It's similar to 1960 in a way. - I wasn't there Chris. - What happened? - Either was I. - What happened, what happened? - But I've read about it in books. - Okay, thought to be. - So there was a technological shift in 1960. The debate between Kennedy and Nixon was the first presidential debate that was ever televised. So coming into it, Kennedy was young and vibrant. An energized, and Nixon was old, compounding that he like, hit his knee against his car door. - Oh god. - He had an interneed, he was like sweating and like freaking out. And that's in retrospect what people say shifted the election because the technology had changed. And people never had a chance to see the candidates before. And they were such a stark contrast. And I think with podcasting and the shift in media, for this election, it's the same thing where there's this shift happening in one space. And then the politics kind of dub tails into it. - You're absolutely right. - Can I bring up something about this? I'll tie it back in. Okay. There's no young like movie stars right now. There's no young like action stars. - What Timothy's down? - Timothy's down. - Timothy's down. - I would say he's a mooser, but he's not like a. He's not like a. - You're not a box office yet? - No, no, no, no, no. I'm not being critical of Timmy. Like obviously he's very successful in his talented. But like outside of like Timothy is like, who is the young Tom Cruise? Like when we were growing up, there were all these guys. There was Bruce Willis. There was like 20 different young actors that were like. - Is not Timothy? - No, no, he's one. But I'm saying like, he's one. Like, and I don't even know. - I would have to ask my daughter. - Like she'd be into those. - Because there were only a limited amount of platforms when we were growing up. - Well, well yes. But I also think what happened is I think that Hollywood kind of ignored what was happening. I think what happens is less people were going to movies. Hollywood got scared. They started putting the same stars that they know could draw in movies. Like Tom Cruise is still doing mission impossible, right? Like he's 70 years old. Like he's still hanging off of planes. He's seven. Like they haven't gotten the 50 year old version of that. Like the 30, the 20. So I think what Hollywood did is they started to freak out and they started, okay, let's keep on putting Indiana Jones in movies. They don't want to do in the folks that are watching. - They were trying to play a save. - They're trying to play a save because the budgets are 200 million, etc. And then what happened is the next crop of young entertainers don't end up going into Hollywood. They end up streaming. They're high. - Right. - They're drew ski. - Yeah. - There's a bunch of comedians like myself. Like now we're going into movies. But like we're basically the younger crop of entertainers that if this was 30 years ago, you don't think high or drew ski would be in every single movie. They would. They would be Eddie Murphy. They would be Jim Carrey. I think back in the day. - The reason why I say I don't know 'cause none of those motherfuckers in Hollywood have ever shown us that they know real raw talent. - Well, I'm saying, like you really had to take your hand. You had to be the bird that take your hand off the way. You had to be the bird that takes you wing up the ass hole. - And going these studios as first. As first mouthful, right. Is it a coincidence that all of these guys that you named, right, a lot of these Hollywood types have all of these rumors? - No. - As you understand what I'm saying? Where did those rumors come from? - I don't know. - Huh? Where they naturally born that way. Or did they become that way because of opportunity. My point is the guys, the drew skis, the use. I don't know if Hollywood ever sees y'all, bro. - But I'm being honest. - No, no, 100% Hollywood. Hollywood is just starting to seek comedy, right? They're just starting to seek comedians. They don't even know streaming exists. Like the fact that this movie is happening with them is massive, but if Kevin Hart doesn't go, I wanna do this movie, that's not happening. And he's a major movie star, right? It's Kevin's ability to recognize what was actually happening where the youth is, where the kids are. Like think about podcasting. Like Kamala thought that it was in her best interest to not go on the biggest platforms on the planet. I do think Kamala did a combination of both, but she did miss big platforms like Rogen, like Flagrin. But I think that she did what you should do because we live in a world now where you just have to be in front of as many eyeballs as possible. - Sure. - Like I did a upfront for Nilsen this week. And I think what Nilsen is doing is dope now because all of this stuff is gonna account for ratings now. Like when it's not just people listening to the radio, it's podcast, it's all social media. Like everything is combined now. I'm giving you the not-- Did not, yeah, the not educated technical version of it, right, right, but but that's what you have to do. I think she did a good job of that. You should go on the view, but then you should go do all the smoke, right? You should go on, Stephen Colbert, but you should also go do flavor. She did a bunch of pods, right? It was just Trump didn't do that because he didn't have to. He's been campaigning for 10 years. I don't need to go on your mainstream platforms. I can go on all of these podcasts, and you gotta talk about me anyway. But he did go on a bunch of 'em. He did, he did, he did. No, he didn't do mainstream stuff. Outside of Fox, other than that, it was strictly podcast. He didn't do, he didn't do none of the late night shows, none of the daytime television, nothing. But he did, it's not like he went on pod save America. Yep, yeah, that's true. That would have been, you know. I've been great. You didn't rank up with the wrong. I guess, I'm sorry, and I'd love to pod save America. I mean, you didn't rank up with the wrong. Yeah, I, I just, what? I don't know. I guess what I'm saying is like, Hollywood's late to recognize like what the youth was doing, but back in the day, there wasn't an opportunity to stream and do shit online. So all these young talented people would gravitate towards TV and towards movies. So they would probably end up being there. And I think it's in Hollywood's best interest to really recognize what all the young folks are doing because that's where the eyeballs are. Like if you want people to go see your movies, if you want young people to see your movies, you have to put the young people that they're invested in those movies. Well, somebody like Kai is interested in, all right? Because even what Kai is doing is not TV our film. He's just introducing the world to him. And as we're looking at him, we're like, man, I got a lot of personality. Man, he might be good in the movie. He might be good in the sitcom. That his approach wouldn't be the same if he had to come up 30 years ago and go out there and audition. We might not get that version of Kai. Same with you. We don't get the, we don't get raw Andrew Shote's if Andrew got to come out with slick back hair and a black leather jacket. And I don't know audition as the fonds. And I, you know what I'm saying? Like we don't get you. 100%. I, you know, the era that we're in calls for authenticity. Authenticity, right? Like that's not what the era back 30, 40 years did. You had to be polished and clean. Like that's not what the world wants no more. And that's what Democrats keep fucking. That's where a comrade, even now she writes this great book. And for her, to me, it's raw. So I'm like, this is yes. Finally, you telling just a little bit of truth, just enough truth to rattle everybody. To make everybody take a wing and put it around their butt hole, right? Just in case you really try to go fuck us, right? But then you do the interviews and it's not that, I know. Rachel Maddow, you, you pressed a little bit. You like, no, that's not what I meant. Like, oh, no, stand on it. You was right when you said you couldn't have chosen Peters and running me. Yeah. 'Cause why did she kind of fold on that? That was weird. I think because Rachel Maddow is a part of the LGBTQ community. And it just was a little bit of, and I don't know if Kamala was trying, even when you read the book, what she's saying is true, but it's not her personal feeling. You understand what I'm saying? Like if I say, hey, we can't choose this guy as a running mate, man, 'cause he's a gay man. I'm already a black woman with a Jewish husband. That's tough enough. I'm just looking at it from a strategy perspective. I'm looking at it from strictly politics, right? But people will say, that means you're homophobic. No, it doesn't. This is business. It's ain't got nothing to do with what I personally think. I'm telling you, America's not ready for this. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, Chris. Do you? No, and I think that's something Trump does as well, as he does what he has to do, explains why he does it, doesn't try to-- Or doesn't explain. Or doesn't explain. Doesn't apologize. Doesn't apologize. I mean, I would say-- I would have loved to hear Tyna Houghton and Andrew had that conversation, 'cause I know that they would agree with Kamala on that. But just a circle back to what's wrong with the Democrats, Kamala. I don't think it's because they haven't acknowledged the original sentiment. You said they have to throw a body under the bus. Body's already under the bus. You'd have to get his body, pull it out of the bus, and then throw it in front of the bus. Yeah, it got to be a public-- No, I got to be public, no, I got to be public, Chris. To me. Public, public. To me, and we-- This got brought up with the Andrew Senate at the very beginning of the show. It's the fractured nature of the left right now. The left is eating itself alive. They've always learned that, though. I know, but it's heightened right now. And their-- And their-- It's identity politics, like-- It's caused its identity politics, and it's the anger of losing, and feeling like the people in power are trying to strip you and your friends of your rights and your dignity. And they're genuinely-- And they're not wrong, but they-- But they genuinely believe that. So I understand that heightened sense of defensiveness is not going to lead to a more accepting welcoming coalition. The problem is you kind of need that. You need it except in welcoming coalition. You've got to bring back people that left you because they felt ostracized. You have to, if you actually want to win. But I think a lot of these people don't want to win to what Charlemagne was saying. They just want to be right. They want to go and make a TikTok video, pointing fingers at everybody that disagrees or that they disagree with, so that they could get a bunch of comments, a bunch of likes. And it's like, all right, well, then you're not a serious guy. Well, that's always been the case. I mean, you had Abby Hoffman and the far, far radical left to-- similar to-- I mean, I think what we're going through now, the closest analogy is the late '60s, early '70s, in America. Those guys hated the mainstream Democratic party, right? But they had a limited platform in the sense that even though they made a lot of noise, it only traveled so far. Now, someone can say, well, you sold out to the corporate Democrats or the mainstream Democrats and you're abandoning them. And it gets amplified that it seems like that person is representing a larger portion of the party than they probably do. But then it keeps building and building and building. And people are going to have to figure out how to-- It's like if you're working on something creative, you have a scene you like. Sometimes you've got to give up stuff you love to make the entire piece work. I love-- President Biden. Yes, Democrats got to give him up. Maybe Bill Clinton-- Well, I can only-- I can only speak for myself. That was a fear-based decision. Listen, you know Republicans do that. Democrats don't do it. And I saw this, and I think it's genius. JD Vance said, yeah, you know, the economy isn't where we need to be. Yeah, inflation and all that stuff is up. But it's the Democrats fault. Why didn't they ever do that when they got back in the White House? Why didn't they talk about all the stimulus checks that caused inflation? That's what I'm talking about. Democrats did not do that. I don't know, Biden did it. He did it. Well, when JD Vance did it, he resonated in the cut-through. When Biden did it-- Obama did it? Obama. Like he did it. I'm just saying, when they inherited the bad economy, they got some Trump. But I hate the finger pointing. I don't like it when either side does. No, it's politics. Don't you have to do it. I know, I know. Yeah, it's not like you want the football field lined up with the person, and you can just see, you know, go ahead and head with them. This is how you take out your opponent. They do a better job of constantly making Democrats look like a problem. Right now, government shut down. Who do some people think is responsible for the government shut down? Democrats. Why? Because Republicans got the bully pulpit, and they're saying it. And we know that's not the case. They have all the power. They're in control of every single thing. Who's the Democrat with the loudest megaphone able to say that? Jasmine Crockett. And she not as loud as conservative media. So now, what do you do? Yo, they just had a meeting two days ago. This is crazy to me. They had a meeting, Pete Hexf, and Donald Trump with all the generals, a public meeting that we all watched, where they are sitting there trying to get these generals to pledge their loyalty to them. And nobody thinks that's strange. What do you mean? We read enough books to know what that is. Right? Like, they are loyal to him. He's the commander. No, no, no, no. They should be loyal to the Constitution. No. They should be loyal to the United States of America. No. No. You can't be loyal to a man when a man is telling you I want you to go out and wage war on your own citizen. I'm sorry, Shawn. I mean, you're off on this. I mean, I disagree with wage war on your own citizen. But that's what he said? Yeah, but he is the commander in chief. Like, he is in control of-- In a war against the foreign power. Yes, he is in control of the army. He is in control of the Navy, in control of the Air Force. That is his-- if we're talking about the role of the president here, I don't think that there's anybody that would refute that. That is his job, and that is part of his job, and that is his position. But you need people that are willing to push back. Because what if-- Yeah, yeah. What if we have an authoritarian regime in the White House that is saying, hey, I want y'all to start interfering when people are peacefully protesting. I want y'all to start interfering at the ballot box to make sure that these people can vote. I want you to start removing people that are my political opposition from all sides. Yeah, yeah. At some point, in general, Admiral got to be like, whoa. These things are horrible, but the general admirals do not have the authority to reject the wishes of the president if I'm not mistaken. No, I don't believe you. But they're not-- Yeah, they're not an independent body. Because if they were, then you wouldn't be able to go to-- What-- Well, hold on. To your Congress can restrict what the president can do in terms-- But only Congress can declare war, I believe. Exactly, and that's why we've had all these conflicts. But-- And then, by that stance, only Congress could tell the army to start enforcing against you as a-- It's all because it's going to war against us. And Trump said, basically, if you don't want to do it, we want you to do, then you got to go. So when you're trying to build your own military that is loyal to you and not just-- and not the Constitution in the country, what are we building? Now we Germany. Now we just over here union under Stalin. Now we fucking Saddam Hussein and Iraq. What are we doing in America? Mike, yeah, no, I hear that, and don't get me wrong. I definitely hear the totalitarian response. I grew up being on the fat admirals in general. Yeah, I mean, we're not-- Yeah, I don't want no fat admirals in general. No fat admirals? Okay, that is, that's the one thing PXF says. And there's one standard. It's not a men's and women's standard is just one standard. - You can't have the strongest military in the world and I love the part, bro. Like no. - No. - Napoleon was a little chunky. - Yeah, but he wasn't fighting. - These guys aren't fighting. - And he want them to, I guess. - I don't know, man. I just think that there's a lot of things that are going on in America that are not normal. And if you just read a little bit, I'm not the smartest person in the world. I'm not the highest-grade wheat in the dispensary. But if you just read a little bit and light of history throughout the world, you can see how this can easily happen in America and it's happening. Like nobody, they literally had a meeting and nobody, it's just like, "Oh, okay." - What? - So you're allowed to meet with your generals. - This is not like-- - No, this was different, man. You had to go watch it. You got to go watch it and listen to what they're basically asking them to do. Like why do you want to send the military in the portland? - So here's the thing. Obviously they're doing this for like political reasons. - Why don't they're in power? - The question that I have about this, and I mean this, genuine. If people feel unsafe in their cities and their local governments are not doing about anything about that, do you think that they are upset at Trump doing this? Or do you think that they're happy about it? - It depends on you as. Like you know, there's people in DC that you can talk to and they're like, in fact, you even got to talk to the people in DC. We'll talk to some of the military personnel that's in DC. They'll tell you, I don't know what we're doing. - Yeah. - Forget what people are saying. - Go talk to them. I've spoken to some of them. They don't know what they're doing. In DC, they're like, why are we guarding this restaurant downtown? Why do we need to go in the portland? Like, no, I hear that. - And they're going in Mundani wins? - Yeah. - Woo! - No, I think that. - They could be marching up and down and speaking to you. - I think the opposite. I think that if Mundani wins, Trump is going to hope that the city burns so that he can use it as a political message. - No, no, no, no, no, no. I agree with you. But there's going to be some strategic chaos. - He already said I'm cutting the title of a budget in New York. - Which is horrible. - They're going to put the military here. You wasn't here last week when the secret service was stopping everybody and making you get out your car and putting the dogs and, oh, 'cause you know, well, we're at the radio station. That's right there with a UN meeting with us. - Oh, 'cause you remember. - Oh, that shit was crazy. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Oh, it was, it was, I mean, the weirdest thing about that though, secret service. Y'all never search us. You make us get out the car and you run the dogs and everything and you're going through the hood and you're going to jump. But you don't search us to people. - That is weird. - I thought that was strange. I don't know if it was, you know, I mean, of course, there was a company that was like, "Oh, it's y'all on me, what's up?" So maybe it was me. I don't know, but I just thought it was weird that I don't even get, at least get a pat down. You're not going to let the dogs sniff my butt. My balls, you know what I'm saying? I just thought that was a little, but the little strange. - That is a little weird. - It's the little strange. 'Cause if I went through the secret service checkpoint a couple of times, I'm like, "Oh, they just searching the car, so I just keep whatever I got on it." - That's what I would be thinking if I was 100%. - A criminal, you know, but I don't know, man. I didn't think it's some strange time, bro. I don't know. Let's play some bills, Chris. Come back, let's talk about some bad bunny at the soup bowl. - Yeah. - A couple of other things. Oh, we got some church announcements. Show us what we got. Sorry, hold on. - What'd you eat? - Hey, you ain't eatin' sauce, girl, you? - Starving. - Come on, jet lag, everything's all backwards. Church announcements, oh, I'm gonna be in Dubai, October 7th, after that going to the Riyadh comedy festival, which is getting mad controversy. - Lot of controversy. I just wanna say, I want to go there before the festival. - October 11th, 5th annual mental wealth expo was happening in New York, New Jersey at the Joelle and Diane Bloom, a bench center home. You make sure I got there, right? Joelle and Diane Bloom. Yes, wellness and a bench center in New York, New Jersey. Some of the best mental health professionals in the country will be there. Debbie Brown, Dr. Rita Walker, Elliot Connie, Jason Wilson. Deite Wilde is gonna be there. Queen of Food is gonna be there. And it's a free event from 11 A.M. to 4 P.M. Go to mentalwealthexpo.com to register to get in. You don't have to register to get in. You could just pull up, but we recommend that you register 'cause it's a free event. So a lot of people like to come to the mental wealth expo. So we'll see you October 11th. Now, look at Jake Paul too, man. I don't think Jake Paul gets enough credit for-- - For knowing how to finesse a bag. - Yes, but those MVP fights are really good. I went to Serrano and Amtella at the garden. - For normal. - It was just a very well put together event. That shit was dope. It was exciting. I'm a guy that goes to a lot of boxing matches. We go to boxing matches at the garden before. Outside of the fights, there's nothing really entertaining about the environment in that atmosphere. He creates an environment in that atmosphere that just feels electric. As soon as you walk in. - Yes, I mean, come on, man. - Jake doesn't get enough credit, bro. - Jake does not get enough credit, bro. - Shots, let's be honest. Jake Paul did a card of all women boxing. - And it was exciting. - Where are all these like world outlets that are, why don't they say, look at this guy who is championing women in a sport that's true? - For most part, nobody really get a fuck about women boxing. - Get them the biggest paid A's. - Get them the biggest audiences. - Put them on Netflix. Netflix would not be doing shit like that. - If it wasn't for Jake Paul, where is his credit? - Listen, we only give credit to certain people. - I meant to salute him after I came back from the fight, but I just just reminded of it when I saw the most bad emotions. He does a phenomenal job with MVP, bro. You gotta give Jake a lot of credit. I hope that Jake continues to be able to put together these types of stellar fights. And the thing I liked about the women card, he didn't have to be involved in it. - Yeah, he wasn't fighting on it at all. Now, when I would love to see him do, and I'm pretty sure it might be like this on the tank card, just to make sure those undercar fights would create. - Yeah, make a minute or so. This is what boxing always fucks up. - That's right. - And it's like, because you gotta pay the main event so much, there's no money for anybody else, but like, you know, throw a few dollars at the next like three fights so that we have something really engaging to watch for, you know, two hours. - Right. - That's Turkey. If Turkey and Jake Paul ever come together to do some type of boxing to me, 'cause that's gonna be the next thing, right? The next thing isn't gonna be just the Jake Paul tank is the main event. It's gonna be the Jake Paul and tank, but then it might be, you know, Kanelo and Benavida, like real fight. I'm not saying the tank and Jake Paul's not a real fight, but like actual boxers versus boxers, like it's gonna be a thing where it's gonna be like a combination of everything. 'Cause you know, I don't think, like Jake Paul would have to like really go on a real run of knocking out a bunch of different boxes that ever really get taking serious as a boxer. I think he's serious now. I think he's more, I think he's still more of a spectacle. - No, no, it is spectacle without a doubt, but boxing at its highest has always been spectacle, right? It's like one of the biggest fights ever is Floyd versus Conor McGregor. - Yeah. - So it's like, but I think he's taking serious in that you can't just be someone who's never, like you have even boxers, like because of the weight advantage, I don't love the tank fight because of the weight advantage personally, and also the big gloves. So I think they were wearing 12 ounce gloves. I think maybe they brought it back down to 10. - But like, Jake Paul Canelo would have been good. - That to me. - But to me, it's like, okay, Jake, now you really? - And also Canelo just lost yourself. - So now we believe that it might be possible. - Yeah, I am. No, I mean, listen, it's interesting. I just wanted to salute the Jake, salute the MVP. Let's face him, oh, you know, Mayor Adams, you know Mayor Adams did the us when he did the y'all on Flagrant. - What do you do? - Remember when he came on Flagrant? And he said, "I'm definitely running." - At the next day? - Yeah. - He totally, I'm definitely running the Democrat. I'm not gonna be independent, but next day he became independent. He did the exact same thing to us, show. Came to Brooklyn's Club on a Thursday. The first question out the gate. Everybody says you dropping out the race, Mayor Adams. What's up? I asked him that question about five or six different ways. - What do you say? - He was like, my answer's gonna be the same every time. We're standing in this race blah, blah, blah. Three days later on a Sunday, he drops out the goddamn race. - You know the question everybody keeps asking, are you dropping out of the mayoral race? - And you know what? I answered that one hundred and one times. I said, no, I'm not. They said, Eric, they keep telling me you're dropping out. Our goal is to finish this race. - You know, over the past weekend, you didn't attend any public events. While a lot of your derives were out campaigning. And people use that to fuel more speculation that you're preparing to drop out. So how do you respond to that? - Six of them are the Charlemagne. No matter what I said, they did it anyway. - So you're pulling in fourth place right now? - Yeah. - What makes you think you can still win? - What I must do in these campaigns is I need my money. - They don't need to be a campaign. - Eric Adam's 2025. - Three days later. - Despite all we've achieved, I cannot continue my reelection campaign. (laughing) - What they promised them? - He started the race. - He started the comedy festival, I'm talking about it. - No, for real. Yeah, there's been going to be ambassador to Saudi Arabia. (laughing) He might be a promoter in this comedy festival. - He's going to have a hook-a-lion joke. (laughing) - That's racist, still. That's racist. - It is, actually. - That's racist. - Yo, still well said, I saw still well on the news yesterday. Still well said, the next billionaire that calls him, he's recording the call. - Who's still well? - Curtis Stillwell, the guy he's a guardian angel, right? - Oh, still well. - Oh, still well, what I said. - Still well, still well. - What? - Ryan's still well. - Still well, what's his name? - Curtis Stillwell. - Curtis Stillwell. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Curtis Stillwell said the next billionaire that calls him, him and offers him millions to drop out he's recording the call yeah he said they're offering him millions this thing you can't drop out like he's a principal guy like this this is different dude so like you better off not trying to bribe him you know you're better off not trying to bribe I don't think Cuomo can do it man I don't think Cuomo can do it you don't think you beat one done no because he's not offering anything like stability would be the argument yeah but like to whom like Chris I don't know if you rent in the city do you rent in the city I do okay do you have rent control no well I think he can do a freeze I don't think that he can do it like a temporary freeze but like it doesn't matter the cost of living and I'm someone who has money yeah it's outrageous the cost of living in this city is fucking unbelievable I think about it every day trust me bro I I'm literally and I was talking a friend of mine but because like if you have like a family like you need like three bedrooms or something you can't go anywhere you can't move oh it's there's no possibilities for anything it's just dude this talk and here's the thing especially if it's like if we're talking about three or four bedrooms or something like that right forget about it during COVID yeah anybody who had money bought a place because the loans were at 2% the mortgage rates right so you're getting a place for free right okay you're basically getting a place for free so yeah we all fucked up right because we didn't know what the hell was happening in the world so you get this 2% loan so all these people got these 2% loans that they do an interest only so they're probably like seven years or 10 years of interest only loans right so they're just sitting on all these properties and that's one reason why there's no liquidity in the market is because people are sitting on these properties that's why the rental market is so crazy is because they have a loan that is free basically for them to live but come 2027 or 28 all these mortgages are going to go from 2% to fucking 6% and you're to see somebody's carry go from $100,000 because they were all adjustable they had arms they have their vios right they have insurance only right like so it's not like a 30 year arm what they do is they just pay the yeah interest interest I mean that that was the the thing in New York was always you buy a studio and then you start to well grow it and the value goes up let's say 5% yeah then you buy the one bedroom with the difference that you've made and then you just keep going up the ladder there's a tax loophole that is just going to jersey to buy a fucking house bro can you go to jersey right now yeah you should win years ago y'all here bro real estate is outrageous everywhere there's nowhere in the country right now but New York is like ground zero for it now which it's funny when people tell you how much your house is worth now because it's like who can buy it they built I saw I forgot how many years it was it was let's say two years they've built 12,000 new units in Brooklyn along right you would think at a certain point there would be so much new supply that the prices would come down they're still going up so who's buying these things rich people in hope rich people in rich people are buying them in bulk in hopes that you know people come and buy them and rent them up because there's no way that regular everyday people that are you know making you know working class wages are buying them fucking apartments in Brooklyn there's no way bro when I I don't know what people live I don't know how they live I don't know who can afford it like how many people can afford it that's we have what eight million people in the city how is everybody a million like I think a lot of it's coming internationally so I don't eat do we need these festivals we're an angel sorry at Arabia let's pay some bills man and then come back and wrap this thing up with some asking idiots and a couple other news stories you see that the Kardashians are um sewing rage a for defamation whoa yeah the Kardashians the student rage a for defamation can't fight the hand that feeds you well the reason I bought it up is because um you know uh last week uh rage a said that he was working with let me read the headline yeah Kim Kardashian and Chris Jenner soon rage a for defamation accused him of reckless disregard for the truth uh oh here yeah um yes Alex Spiral the attorney for Kardashian and Jenner tell people in the statement that rage a's allegations left him no choice but to file a lawsuit and the allegation was rage a regarding claims he made about them allegedly being under investigation for racketeering now let me tell you the difference between radio television podcast and streaming and everything else rage a said this I believe on I think he alluded to it on a TMZ at TMZ's 2B documentary United States versus Shahakons and go back go back to necrous you had the line right there he said if you told me the Kardashians was being charged with racketeering I might believe it that's what he said and then I think there was another uh scream that came out lately where he said he was working with um the FBI on a Rico against the Kardashians listen I don't know what's true and what's not true I just know that when you say things you got to prove it you can't just be talking nowadays and I don't know why people don't realize that yet that is why I love growing up in the radio world because of FCC rules and regulations I know that I can't just be saying things we reported that story last week and got a legal letter whoa from Alex Barrow we report we report all we do is report what rage a was a legend no sides taking no none of this we just reported it right I actually said during the report yo we got to stop throwing the word record around so loosely everything can't be labeled a Rico and that's what they do now they every day oh that's a Rico that's a Rico everything can't be a Rico and we got a legal letter basically saying like this isn't true and where the breakfast club we're not supposed to amplify that so you can be you know a youtuber you know a podcaster and say these things and you may get away get away with it for a while and tell somebody gets on your mother fucking bumper are you get on the person's radar and they'd be like oh oh yeah let's suit him see what's happening with Candace Owens what's happening boy she got sued by the people in France right are they following through with that hell yeah they following through with that right anyway and you've heard stories of podcasts this Cardi B got awarded formula not seen a youtuber four million dollars you know because of defamation so my point is man you this is the difference between being a radio personality and just one of these people with a platform talking on the internet are talking on the podcast who don't understand the rules and regulations by the way this you can still happen to us you know what I mean but and it probably is more than likely to happen to us because of the magnitude of the show but nowadays because you got people who are like Arreja who's a celebrity who when they say something that shit really really travels you going in the in situations like this so now you got to fight the Kardashians and the defamation lawsuit now you got a higher in attorney you know what I'm saying and maybe he caught maybe he he does have some proof of what he's a legend I don't know I'm just simply saying if you're going to make a I guess let me say what I'm saying if you're a ranger and you're going to make a allegation like that you got to come with it hmm can't flirt with it say no jab jab jab jab you got to prove it you got to go you got to come like hey I'm doing xyz and neither the reasons why you can't even wait on it yeah yeah because they didn't wait yeah they let Ray Jay say what he said they're like yeah we're not waiting on nothing bombo wow bombo maybe they're doing that descent of message too like to anybody else who tries I mean you I mean sometimes you got to do that if people are making you know those kind of allegations here's the thing some people got time and some people got a whole lot of money just been yeah you know most of the time it just comes down the time it's like you really want to sue the first for some shit that's not impacting you in no way shape before but what's happening now is that a lot of these things are impacting folks like you see people getting there's actual real world consequences for these rumors that people are just you know throwing out there because to the point we were making earlier about things being so fragmented folks just never know you hear something online you don't know if it's real now like well damn I heard this online about said individual I don't know if it's if it's true or not maybe we should just just stay away or you know maybe just just wait and see what that is right you know does that don't say it 100% yeah so I get why they would do it interesting I get why they would do it because you could say anything nowadays let's do some asking it is let's do it you can get the block go to her I'm really happy to see you man man I'm not even joking but I really really missed you bro tell me tell me this is great it was so much good she's going oh I know my god then it's cool to talk about it with other people but it's different with us a lot of shit a lot of shit like I feel like there's still a lot that happens no it is it is but I mean we hear we yeah we'll get it back uh Jojo Baskara says how does the blind person know when to stop wiping after taking this shit yo I thought this I thought this about um because it happened once like I I walked I was that I was gonna kind of show and I walked into the bathroom and it was one of those lights that goes off with uh motion oh man and I walked in in the second I I walked in the light came on and I just heard someone from the stall go. Thank God. Because they must have been in there. Shit and then have no clue. I have no clue when they went on white paper. That is the worst feeling in the world. We got one of them shit at I heart, bro. I ain't gonna say what floor it's on. I'd be thinking that the woman at the desk be fucking with me. Why? Because this shit just started happening. I've been working it for 15 years and now all of a sudden that shit cuts off. And when you on the toilet, you be doing shit like. Cause you don't want to stand up. I'm in a Bobby smirking one time. I turn the fucking lights on. That shit is impossible to do, bro. Now, how does a blind person know when to stop wiping after taking a shit? I know. I don't know, Jojo. That is one of the things that we never talk about with blind people. That is probably excruciating for them. Yo, yeah, because they got to go extra just to make sure so that probably bloody. I need one of our blind brandy listeners to explain that to me. Cause I really don't know. And that motion light in the bathroom is what really makes me not. I don't know what y'all do, yo. He said, thank god. Man, when you were in a public reference, you had to really watch. You say, yo, I walked into the movie theater bathroom at the AMC to go take a piss. And it was a guy and they're taking a shit. And when I walked in to pee, I wasn't talking to nothing. I just walked in and I'm peeing and all of a sudden I just hate to do it until I go, George. You recognized that stream. I was like, I refused the answer. I refused to be like, that's not joy. I didn't want to be like, nah. Jesus Christ, a geomad excess is commenting something that can be caught and learned. Are you have to be born with it? Ooh, I think joke writing, you can learn. And like, but I think like just being naturally funny is something that you have. It's not you're born with, but like you're, you just learn through life. Is natural funny comedy, though? No, it's not stand up, but it is like, if you're naturally funny, you can, you can, you can do stand up. You can turn it in the comedy, turn it in. Yeah, but there are people who are not naturally funny that can learn how to like write jokes. There's like a math equation with you. I feel like comedy is a business. Ooh, it's no, yeah, comedy is a business and it's a skill set. So it's kind of like being a street fighter if you're naturally funny, but then turning that street fighting into actual boxing or MMA. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great. How about this because I was thinking about this myself the other day is being funny, a sign of intelligence. Hell, yeah, right? I think there's some people. Hell, yeah, with some people, I think there's some people that are dumb and that's what makes them funny. You know, you can be funny if you're truly dumb. It depends because some people aren't trying to be funny, but they're funny. There's just dumb. The most, a lot of the comedians that I really enjoy are some of the most intellectual, with comedians, they tend to be out there. Chris Robb, yeah, George Collins shows, Dave Chappelle, like these guys are, when you even just sit in Constantin, Marlon, when you just sit down to have a conversation with Marlon, when our Kevin Hart, that's why they give the best interviews. Yeah, yeah, like they're just very smart. Like they're just there. If they are actually smart. And I think that they have a level of intelligence that a lot of politicians wish to have because it is an intelligence that taps into society. Yeah, societal intelligence. Yes, social and emotional. Yes, observe what people know what people are feeling, know what people are going through. Like that's different to me. So yeah, King underscored D71. Oh, the jaw-like Marvel zombies. I thought it was dope. It was incredible. I didn't watch it. Oh, what is Marvel zombies? What does it say? It's a new cartoon on, uh, yeah, it's on Disney Plus. Oh, it's only four episodes. Oh, I thought it was incredible, especially that last episode. Fucking nom. Who is it? Who is it? Bloody ending everybody. It's like, I mean, not everybody was like a lot of different superheroes. It's just like, it's like the zombie apocalypse and some of the superheroes turning into zombies. Oh, it's fanfuckin' fast. Oh, wow. It's one of them things like get high. Like I watched it. I was on an edible Friday night and that shit was overstimulating me. It was just like, oh shit. Like the graphics and the way it's animated within the storyline. Like that shit was, yes. I enjoyed Marvel zombies a whole lot, King D71. I don't know what happened at the end though. I would like to know what happened at the end. Like I want to know if I don't want to give it away. But you know what I'm talking about. We're kind of like Kamala. I want to know what happened. Was that the real world or was that all in the lose? I don't know. I don't know. Undescore taps. Undescore says, who would you rather have for president now? 2016 Bernie or John Stewart? Whoa. Do you mean run for president? No, who do we have to have right now? John. I'm going John too. Bernie. Yeah, this is no like insult. I love John Stewart, but I, yeah, I think John, I think John because I think John because I think John might be a little bit more centrist than Bernie in terms of, like Bernie, Bernie, I love Bernie for this reason, but he is kind of radical on certain things. But he's also a bit of a non-quantity where I, my only concern with John Stewart is how much are we projecting on to him that we would want. I think John Stewart would look at this and probably say 2016 Bernie. Yeah. I don't know. He would definitely call for Bernie. But you know, sometimes you look at people and you see something in them that they may not see in themselves. I don't care what nobody said, John Stewart should be in somebody's office. John Stewart should be governor New Jersey or something, fucking run for president something. John Stewart is, because his ideas are so big, you know, the way he's able to communicate with people, the way he's able to build bridges, we've seen him actually get legislation passed with his words, you know what I'm saying? Actually got there and put pressure on, on, on them to do the right thing to pass this legislation for the firefighters and 9/11 with his words, like, I, listen, I like Bernie too. You know what though? I would probably pick Bernie. Just to, just to, just, because I'm, this question is kind of confusing because you're saying who would you rather have for president right now? If I wanted for president right now, it would be 2016 Bernie. If you ask me, who would I want to compete to win in 2028, Brandon, we have a free and fair election, it would be John Stewart, you know? So this question is low tree. Let's, let's do two more, man. What else we've got? Charlie Boxeyano, how long before they have an AI president? They have won the last administration, maybe. If you was AI, wouldn't they have, haven't talked a little cleaner, sped him up a little bit. I don't think we'll ever have an AI president, but I think AI will play a massive role in like decision making. So it might not be like the president, but if it's curating the ideas of the president, is it not the president? I think we'll have an AI human hybrid president at some point in life, you know, because that's right around the corner, whether you have a real life, not, I keep telling you, I'll read this book, man, Technofutilism, how Technofutilism, yeah, watch it. That was a book. I mean, sorry. You read it? Oh yeah. I think that you know, a lot of this stuff is, you know, in more, it's more in the, in the near future than it is, you know, far away, like, you know, there's going to be the Nora Langston people's brains, like, you know, it's going to be the people who are, like, even now they got the glasses right now that you can put on and freaking me and you could be debating. And I could just be rolling off facts and a teleprompter in my glasses, right? Like, it's like a lot of this stuff is right there. And do I last this question a while ago and it's true, like, would you get it to compete? But if you got to go out here with all of these fucking comics that got Nora Lincoln, all of this shit like that and like, what do you do when you do the author, Chris? When he's motherfucking is out here with the Nora Langston in their mind and they writing. Well, it comes back to the comedy question, right? Can AI duplicate comedy? No. No. Yeah. The can't write jokes. But eventually we'll be able to. The kind of like cat, skill, tool on or math equations types you're talking about. We ought to do those. Just ask Chad. Give me a joke. Give me something. We'll give me a premise. Give me a premise. Let's ask Chad, GPT. Ask Chad, GPT, to write a joke about AI taking over the world. Okay. Let's see. I write a joke about AI taking over the world and having access to male booty holes and [BLANK_AUDIO] a little rather than, see what it says. Okay. Jesus Christ. Let's just say, okay, here's one in that wild Charlemagne style link. Yeah, it knows you. Oh, yeah, you can ask him to write the joke in different ways. How about that was write a joke about AI taking over the world and having access to male booty holes everywhere? Yeah, but it knows you. Everybody's scared about AI taking over the world, man. Y'all worried about the wrong thing. Get robots stealing your jobs. Wait till chat GPT gets Wi-Fi access to your booty hole history. Alexa already listening to your conversations. Next thing you know, Siri, going to be like, based on your last three searches, you might want to scratch first. So that's pretty good. That's, that's, that's, that's got donkey. Gratio all over it. My God. What? Then it says, want me to punch it up into a full donkey of the day style bitch with a moral at the end. Is this your first time using church GPT? No, but God damn. Yeah. You think it knows it's me? Yeah. I got to reach my search issue then. Got me asking this shit some wild shit. What the fuck? I'll be asking chat GPT some wild shit, bro. God damn. Let me tell chat this not me. I just want you to know this is not sorry, but it's God. Not shalom me. God. God. God. God you. Oh shit. What is this? God you. Appreciate you saying that. I know you're you and I'll keep it straight with no mixups. Want me to run back another version of that AI take over joke? Just regular stand-up style without the shalom in spin? Yeah. Oh. Yes. Shalom, I'm using church GPT for the first time. It's amazing. Yes, please. Cool. His clean stand-up style take. People keep saying AI is going to take over the world. Honestly, I'm not scared of robots controlling the nukes. I'm scared of them controlling the wi-fi. Imagine an AI would access to everybody's search history and personal booty hole data. That's not world domination. That's just world humiliation. We won't be fighting sky net. We'll be fighting shame net. Yeah. It's not there yet. It's not as far away as that hope. Yeah. Yeah. No, it will be there. Yeah. And that is that is opener at Caroline's. I've seen both. By the way, those are my favorites though. I know. Those are ones that don't. Those are the ones that don't eat. Love us. And I'm just stopping laughing and everybody's like, what the fuck do you think is so funny? There's nothing like watching a comedian tell a joke that lands, doesn't hit and they just got a scramble for what's next. Oh. Especially they don't have no improv skills. Oh. Every time I see some of Bob, I think about you and the joy that you'd be getting if you were watching it. One more Chris. Ooh. This is a good one. Okay. We can end with this one. Oh, we've been talking about this all kind of. They asked me what I'll scroll back up Chris. What story do you hate that you two couldn't talk about together while Andrew was in Australia? I mean, it was a bunch of fucking shit. The president called me out. Fucking. Oh, yeah. Like, it was a bunch of shit. The president calling you out was crazy. I really wish I was here for that damn week, man. That week just seemed so fun. It was fun. I mean, it was fun. It was fun. It was fun. It's just everything. And I'm not saying everything after the fact is not fun. It's just not serious. Yeah. And it shouldn't be taking that serious, but it's just like as serious as he's acting like it is. It's really not that serious. Like, and you know, just to watch everybody, Damon Dash is suing the breadth of his club. No, he's not. No lawsuit has been presented. I'm waiting on the chat GPT signed by him to come through. I haven't seen it yet, guys. All right. I don't know what the fucking thing is. All right. We scrolled this way. I want to do this one right here. The nostalgia one. I like the nostalgia one. But this is interesting. What happens when the nostalgia doesn't work anymore? We're getting close. I hope that doesn't happen until after this Street Fighter movie comes out. Because you need the nostalgia to sell the movie. We need a little nostalgia. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What do you mean when you say getting crows Chris? Because I think this is like the first generation that isn't fully creating their own material that then they'll be able to look back on in 20 years. 20 years is generally the cycle from nostalgia, right? Yeah. It's kind of like sampling. Right? I think I've said this before in the show, but when hip-hop started, it was great. They were sampling 50 years worth of material. Then at a certain point, you run out of samples, right? Yeah. But you haven't also been learning how to play the guitar and the bass and drum and making your own music. I think this generation is kind of in a pattern of reacting to things, instead of creating things at the same kind of cadence in the past. What's the nostalgia going to be in 20 years for this moment? Yeah. I think Chris is right. I would say that I don't think there's a time when the nostalgia, there's a time, there's a never going to be a time when the nostalgia won't work. I guess Kaisa Knight would be the nostalgia in 20 years. Yes, but when I say there's never going to be a time when the nostalgia doesn't work, I think that right now you have people who don't have a respect for history. You know, I don't know why when I was growing up, it felt like everything, there was a historical context to it. Everything. I don't know why. It just seems like they're growing up. I don't think about this the other day, everything had a historical context to it. There was nothing I was learning, there was nothing I wasn't reading that didn't have a historical context, even so much so that you'd be reading certain things. They'd reference something from history and you would go read about, you know, said history. That's why I used to love, I mean, I still love the Ryan Holiday books, the Robert Greens, because they would, you know, give us these lessons, but they would always be rooted in historical context and for the moment that we're in right now, there is a lot of historical context to things like Chris put me on, the thing he was saying about 1960, about the shift in technology, I'm like, oh, that is true, right? Like this can't be something new that we're experiencing, but I feel like we do live in an era that doesn't have any respect for history or they're not looking to history for things. I see that in my kids and I push it, I push the history and they don't want it, they're not buying it. They live on the surface for the most part because I mean, I think we talked about this when you were gone, Andrew. I got a lot of inspiration from boredom from not having something right in front of me, from just sitting there and just thinking about stuff and thinking about stuff and starting off one place and ending somewhere else. These kids aren't bored. Never. They're on their phone. Just kind of like taking surface material, surface material, surface material. And you know, history is a deep die, no matter where you're going in history, it's about, you know, maybe they'll go to a Wikipedia page, see the surface and then back up to social media and they're not sticking and I'm pushing it, I'm promoting it. And also people don't remember what happened yesterday, like everybody is such a prisoner at a moment, like this thing that I'll see happening and I'm like, well, that's not what he said last week or that's not what that person did a year ago, like I can, I can remember things. And it's like when you pull these things back from the past and then show them like, no, this person has a pattern, like look at this and they like, oh my God, I'm like, but that just happened. How do y'all forget that just that quick? So five years ago, oh, forget about it. Ten years ago, please. Right now, right? That's what I'm saying. I got a phone call walking over here today. My daughter called me up from college and she's like, I want to ask you about the government shut down. And then like the five seconds she said that, I got so excited, I'm like, oh, she's calling me because she's curious about politics and what it means. And I was going to go into a whole thing. And then she's like, because I'm trying to see my boyfriend this weekend and I'm worried if the airport's not going to work. I was like, yeah, exactly, no, no, no. We forgot that there was a government shutdown in Trump's first term. Sure. I mean, they do that. They do happen to be fair. Like, but the fact that everybody, like, because I'm reading them, like, they said it hasn't happened in 15 years. I'm like, did this happen in Trump's first term? Oh, it did happen, right? Maybe I'm lying. They, they happen from time to time. They, I mean, knock on wood, they always get resolved. And what they say, this is the first one in 15 years, but I'm like, didn't it happen in Trump's first term? Well, let me look, look, you guess what I'm about to ask, yeah, when was the last time the government shut that one was the last time the government shut that? I don't know, but that's what I mean. I, I read that the last one happened 15 years ago, but this should happen to December 22, 2018. Nothing's true. Nothing's false. Well, you can get the truth here, man. Happy to have you back. Happy to be back, man. I love you, dogs. This is great. This is great. See you, man. As always, if you listed this podcast, you think we're smart. You think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant. You absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit, you're right too. It's the brand of this podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.