The recent midterm elections delivered a decisive Democratic victory in the Senate, driven by public frustration over inflation and tariffs, particularly the "iron war" that impacted energy prices. Markets responded with lower yields and a weaker dollar, aligning with historical patterns of Democratic majorities. However, this outcome signals a shift from traditional Democratic policies—now with a broader progressive mandate. Key near-term risks include state-level data center regulations, especially in Texas, Georgia, and Ohio, which will influence AI infrastructure and related stock performance. The broader fiscal outlook suggests increased government spending, potentially leading to higher long-term interest rates and a steeper yield curve. Sectors like energy and financials face headwinds, with energy likely to underperform due to tariff reductions and financials at risk from potential regulatory changes under a progressive banking committee. Meanwhile, tech remains a strong performer, though rotation into consumer staples, healthcare, and clean energy is already evident. The political landscape for 2028 is evolving: Republicans may move away from MAGA ideology toward centrist candidates, while Democrats could see a rise in progressive figures if economic conditions improve. Overall, the election results highlight a new dynamic where economic sentiment, not just ideology, drives market movements, and investors should expect continued shifts in sector performance and policy direction.
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Laziness and time constraints usually preclude us from doing episodes that respond to events
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Also, I've thought for a long time about how to introduce a co-host for Street Sign,
not least so we can have these episodes come out more quickly, as well as when I'm traveling
or on vacation.
So with this week's episode, we're killing two birds with one stone.
We usually talk to Noel Dixon for political commentary, and he rejoins us with his thoughts
following yesterday's midterm elections.
And I'm thrilled to say that I'm also joined by Kayla Saider from our team in the US, as
co-host.
Regular listeners will have heard Kayla a few times on the podcast, and I'm really grateful
that she'll be able to take over the mic for a few episodes every year.
Enjoy.
Right, well, here we are, Kayla, Noel.
Welcome to our midterm wrap-up.
First of all, actually, Kayla, I should say, as I said in the introduction, shout out
to you for, you know, this is your first co-hosting appearance.
So welcome to the show and ad respect.
Thank you.
I'm excited to be here.
Yeah, it's going to be great.
It's going to be great.
It's going to be a lot more interesting.
And I think people will not be put to sleep by my dulcet tones, I think, as much, which
is really good.
And of course, we welcome our political expert in house Noel Dixon for his usual wrap-up.
Noel, welcome back to you.
Thank you.
Absolutely.
So Noel, let's do a quick recap.
I was going to ask you what the biggest surprise was, but there seemed to have been so many.
So really what stands out to you from those surprises?
And particularly, what's the main impact that we should take away from this set of midterm
results?
Yeah.
I mean, the main surprises, of course, were all the ruby-red flips that the Democrats were
able to achieve, particularly in the Senate.
I mean, I think it began with South Carolina, and then you could start to see the trend
move through Texas and Kansas, and that was a clear protest vote.
You know, the main topic on, you know, that came across what the exit polls was, you
know, the cost of living.
People blamed the iron war.
They made a direct connection between the iron war and the price of diesel and gas.
They connected the tariffs.
So in terms of the markets, as we start the day, right now, you know, the dollars weaker,
you see Treasury yields have moved a little lower.
What is your take in terms of how is the market going to digest this?
Does this really change any important topics that have really been driving the market narrative
recently?
Or is not much going to change?
Yeah.
No, that's a great question.
I think the markets are trading in line with historically, what occurs when you have
Congress comprised of Democrats and a Republican president.
And if you look since 1971, the S&P tends to increase high single digits, would have
pretty high hit rate.
You know, the dollar tends to weaken 12 months forward and yields tend to decline.
I think what we could be missing, you know, from this equation is that this is probably
not your grandfather's Democratic party, you know, and we could get into that a little
bit later.
But the key thing in the short run will be, of course, what happens with the whole viewpoint
on data centers.
Because outside of the Senate in the House, there was a major governor races that flipped.
Like Texas, Georgia, Ohio, they host some of the highest levels of data centers.
So Texas, for example, has 419 data centers, Georgia has 232 Ohio as 113.
And the hyperscale is actually view those states as the ripest states to expand data centers
moving forward.
So what those governors say in the short run in terms of policies surrounding data centers
will be critical.
So I think that could be a near term risk to account for.
We're definitely going to come back to the AI narrative because I think you're right.
It's really clearly the biggest impact to portfolios, I think, especially for personal
investors over the last few years.
It's one where, as you say, in the data center front, there does seem to be bipartisan support
for slowing down construction.
The referendums, you know, Ohio, my home state, there was something like two dozen referendums,
local referendums on data center construction.
We're going to come back to that.
The case laid out the broad market themes, stocks higher, down low lower yields, as being
typical, not just of a Democratic Congress with a Republican president, but any post midterm
result.
That is the kind of the expected outcome.
Which of those would you challenge the most?
Is it the equity side of things that is most at risk of being an exception to this midterm
process?
Yeah.
I would actually challenge the rate side.
I think the equities, I think, ultimately, as it relates to data centers, I think the
conclusion is that, you know, obviously we're in competition globally, mainly, you know,
with China, we have to succeed, I think, commercially and probably militarily as well.
So I think they'll figure out some sort of solution.
But with rates, I think our debt, you know, especially as far as the interest is a percentage
of our deficit, is at a point where basically you have within the more progressive leaning
Democratic party and now Trump, two people or segments that basically want to expand
spending and they want to probably help households.
So I don't think we're going to get this grand bargain as it relates to, you know, reducing
the deficit, and I think that's going to ultimately translate into, I think, higher
term premia for the longer end.
So I think we're looking at probably more of a steeper curve versus what we may have
gotten in the past.
Donald Trump's not a typical Republican and I would say Democrats are, you know, the
progressives of not your typical Democrats and they both want to spend.
So I think that that could be where I would challenge that.
Yeah, you know, I think on the deficit side of things.
This is a pretty much an evergreen topic, right?
And it's something that we're always thinking about, you know, even today we get the quarterly
refunding announcement and there's discussion on will treasury be able to continue supply
at the long end?
Well, they have to adjust that and, you know, I totally agree with you in terms of term
premia, there's a likelihood that that could continue to rise with that said, you know,
when you add some context around, do you think term premia will be higher because we have
such a wide margin or in the Senate, or do you think this is a different kind of scenario
versus, you know, I think heading into this, a lot of people had been expecting a split
Congress actually.
Can you talk a little bit around how the outcome might be a little different in terms of
yields in terms of magnitude?
Yeah.
So I think most consensus were, even if they had a blue sweep,
I don't think they had in their calculus that the Democrats would win by the margin that
they won by.
So I do think markets are going to have to start to give it a rethink now.
This is all speculation.
We got a way to hear from members coming into the 120th Congress, however, you know, if
you just track to each of these candidates on the campaign trail, you know, they want
to pursue things, you know, again, a noble cause like Medicare for all, you know, minimum
wage threshold.
The thinking before the overnight outcome was that this was more, it'll be more difficult
to get that type of outcome if they only had say 51 seats in the Senate.
But now we're looking at right now, currently, it's 54.
And you know, you have Alaska, Mississippi, I think at least one of those are going to
go Democratic.
That gets you to 55.
So some of these things become a reality.
And then not only that, I think this whole pressure to possibly use the nuclear option,
the bypass, the filibuster, I think becomes that much more of a risk and it might be that
much more appetite to do so in the Senate because of the margin that they won by.
How realistic is that that?
No, well, I mean, Trump has already said, if they win, nothing's getting past my desk.
So as much as the majority is larger than we expected, it's not veto proof.
And so how much can we really expect fiscal policy to move the dial with that being reality?
Trump is certainly going to exercise that veto pen, you know, his hand is going to be
worn out from using it so much.
But I think what markets tend to do is they tend to project onto the presidential election.
They'll take the temperature of where the Democrats are, where's their general policy
again, which speculating we got a way to see what that is.
But my sense is that they're going to want to, you know, pursue some real robust spending
policies and then.
They're going to be willing to override the filibuster and then I think the markets take
away will be well because of the margin of victory they had.
It's likely they may win the presidency and they'll have the formula that they need to
pass these more aggressive spending agenda items.
So I think maybe let's dive back into AI a little bit.
You've talked a little bit in terms of the role governors play.
But what about in Congress, what do you expect in terms of regulations around AI and what
should we be looking for in terms of policy that might be coming out on the AI front?
I think that Congress is actually limited in what they could do from a federal level
as it relates to AI.
They could put guardrails for things like super intelligence, they could pass some general
federal regulation uniformly basically saying data centers have to meet some environmental
requirement or something like that.
But outside of that it really boils down to the states.
They're the ones who will have to work with the hyperscalers or vice versa to come to
some sort of compromise or agreement on how they want to move forward.
So from a federal level, if anything, I think that could be actually constructive if they
put some guardrails, but outside of that, I think it's going to boil down to the state
level.
It's interesting to me in that this is up for debate.
As Kayla said, in question, the regulatory elements are very much going to be in flux.
I think the concept of spending is going to be in flux dependent on how companies read
the government response to it.
And that gives rise to something that we've been thinking about at various points this
year and is very much in front of mind right now, which is rotation away from AI.
Last month, I looked yesterday, consumer staples outperformed IT within the S&P 500 by 24%
last month, just in one month.
And so I have kind of a twofold question, are there sectors we should start to think
a little bit more favorably about in respect of what the new government composition looks
like?
That's part one.
Part two is actually something that someone raised that I read earlier this morning is,
where markets actually anticipating this in maybe already getting an early jump on rotating
away from AI with these results maybe expected, or at least as Kayla mentioned, one house
was kind of a given.
Whether they were anticipating it, I mean, I think if you just look at betting markets,
polling, sentiment indicators, I mean, most had maybe a slight edge in the center for
the Democrats and the House, you know, obviously largely going to the Democrats.
So you could argue there was a little bit of rotation historically under democratic regimes
actually tech performs pretty well, followed by consumer discretionary and financials.
So those those have been the best performers in recent years.
I would say since 2020, you've also had outperformance with clean energy and healthcare stocks as well.
So I think that is where to your rotation question, I think I think tech is still the, you
know, the best, you know, from our earnings perspective.
But there's definitely going to be new competition.
I would say at least with healthcare and I would even argue with clean energy for investors
to look at.
And maybe let's take the flip side of that then.
So you see tech still doing well.
You see some potential in healthcare, clean energy, but are there any sectors or, you know,
parts of the market that should underperform given the results?
Energy potentially could underperform because key, the two key items that was spoken about
all night through all the, with all the Democratic candidates was basically ending the iron
war and then also reducing tariffs.
So ending the iron war course will, you know, cause energy prices to, I think decline.
I think the incentive for energy companies to want to produce more, I think will decline.
So they'll probably focus more on self-preservation and enshrining their balance sheets as opposed
to, you know, their profit margins will definitely probably shrink.
So I think energy is in jeopardy.
I do think financials could be in jeopardy because of, it's likely that Elizabeth Warren is
going to be the chair of the banking committee.
They'll have some protection in the next two years because of Trump, you know, obviously,
he'll control the regulatory landscape.
But again, markets are going to start to look forward and say, you know, this is going
to be an issue for 2028.
So I think that could be problematic.
So those are the two areas bucking the trend with history because financials typically
have done well with Democrats, but I think this time could be, cause again, this is not
your grandfather's Democratic party.
I think it could be a little bit different.
So 2028, great place to finish on.
We of course have danced around the president a little bit.
We've talked about the influence on this election and him being on the ballot or being
imagined to be on the ballot.
But let's think about the intervening two years and particularly questions of where he
is a lame doc versus where he can actually still project executive power, both domestically
and abroad, you know, and let's use the Iran conflict as a starting point because you
brought up the notion of potential energy under performance, potential financial regulation
that's coming in.
The second term president's particular in the last couple of years of their presidencies
tend to focus on foreign policy.
So how do you see his approach changing or staying the same in respect of these results?
Again, he says he wants to work with Democrats, but he said the same thing in 2018 and we
kind of see how that turned out historically, presidents pivot to foreign policy.
So I think from a legacy standpoint, cause the establishment Republicans were actually
on the right of Trump as it relates to Iran.
They actually wanted him to finish the job.
I would argue Trump is more transactional in nature.
So if there is a path for him to compromise with the Democrats where, you know, he gets
some level of, they agree on some level of funding to basically close out the war and
they could get to some sort of agreement with Iran.
I think he's going to take that in a heartbeat because I think at this stage, he's basically
thinking about legacy and then the Democrats obviously want to perform the best they can
to increase their chances for, you know, 2028.
What Ukraine, I think, will be very interesting.
Any legislation the Democrats try to bring forward to support Ukraine, I think, is going
to get vetoed.
And I'm not sure he'll reintroduce the sanctions that basically all of the Senate agreed upon.
So I think it'll be more or the same as the rules to Ukraine.
I think tariffs, this is where I think you could get some tension.
I think he's going to, you know, that's one of his key levers.
I think he's going to unilaterally try to optimize his, his tariff authority.
And I think it could frustrate, you know, obviously the majority of Democrats in the Senate
and some moderate Republicans to the point where you are able to get the 290 in the House
in the 67 in the Senate to actually take that authority back from the president.
From a regulation standpoint, I would expect of basically deregulation, monsoon to come
down the pike.
He's going to try to deregulate as much things as he possibly can before, you know, before
the Dems come in 2028.
So there's a lot there, maybe one place to wrap up then is, you know, how does this set
up the landscape for 2028 in terms of both successors for Trump and who might end up
being the Republican nominee and the kind of the characteristics that might develop
there.
But then also on the Democrat side, because as you've mentioned, this isn't your, your
grandfather's Democrat party.
How are you thinking in terms of how does this shape, who might be running in the 2028 presidential
election?
So from the Republican side, I think you're going to get a pivot away from the MAGA kind
of movement with Republicans.
I think an interesting statistic is obviously Trump's approval rating going into last night
was very low.
A lower than that was actually in 2022 and the Democrats actually outperformed in the
midterms because every candidate that Trump picked essentially lost, you know, if you
look at last night, that seems to, it looks like history wronged in that regard.
So I expect that the Republicans are going to be, they're basically going to blame Trump
and they're going to want to pivot away to something more, you know, traditional sort
of conservative movement.
So I think that favors more so a Marco Rubio over, say, a JD Vance.
On the Democratic side, I think it's going to be interesting because the DNC set up the
primaries where it starts in very conservative state.
So it starts in South Carolina, for example, and moves throughout the South initially.
So they, they designed it that way because they obviously anticipated this, this movement
from the left, they would like to basically counter that and, and, you know, basically have
more of a centrist candidate that they think could go up against, say, a Marco Rubio who
would be very formidable in 2028.
The issue with that.
That, of course, as we learned last night is, regardless of how you set it up, if you
have this movement, then it's kind of hard to fight that.
But I think the takeaway from last night, if you look at the exit polling, was that it
wasn't because they love Democrats.
It's because they were very angry about the economic conditions.
Two years is a very long time, but I would argue if the Democrats actually outperform in
the next two years, things are looking good.
Then I think that actually increases the prospects for a more progressive candidate.
If it's kind of modeling along and things don't improve dramatically, then you're looking
more at a more centrist candidate, like a Andy Bashir from Kentucky, for example.
There's so many open questions, no, well, whether it's on the politics of it or on the
markets of it.
The one question I definitely want you to answer is when you're going to bed, and I hope
the answer to that is very early tonight because you need your sleep.
As always, appreciate you taking the time to do this on such short notice.
So thank you to you.
And thanks to Caleb.
It's great to not be the only one asking questions, Caleb.
It's really not.
I am so happy to be here.
Thanks so much, Tim.
Excellent.
Thanks, everybody.
Cheers.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The Democrats won significant legislative gains, including a majority in the Senate, driven by voter anger over the cost of living and the "iron war" tariffs.
Markets are reacting with lower yields and a weaker dollar, consistent with historical trends of Democratic control under Republican leadership.
State-level policies—particularly around data center construction—will be a key near-term market risk, with governors in Texas, Georgia, and Ohio shaping future AI infrastructure development.
Long-term interest rate expectations may rise due to bipartisan support for increased government spending, leading to a steeper yield curve.
Energy and financials are expected to underperform due to anticipated tariff reductions and potential regulatory shifts under a progressive Democratic agenda.
AI regulation will remain largely state-driven, with federal action limited to broad guardrails, creating uncertainty for tech-related investments.
Rotation away from tech toward consumer staples, healthcare, and clean energy is emerging, supported by recent outperformance and shifting policy narratives.
The 2028 political landscape is shifting
Summary:
The recent midterm elections delivered a decisive Democratic victory in the Senate, driven by public frustration over inflation and tariffs, particularly the "iron war" that impacted energy prices. Markets responded with lower yields and a weaker dollar, aligning with historical patterns of Democratic majorities. However, this outcome signals a shift from traditional Democratic policies—now with a broader progressive mandate.
Key near-term risks include state-level data center regulations, especially in Texas, Georgia, and Ohio, which will influence AI infrastructure and related stock performance. The broader fiscal outlook suggests increased government spending, potentially leading to higher long-term interest rates and a steeper yield curve. Sectors like energy and financials face headwinds, with energy likely to underperform due to tariff reductions and financials at risk from potential regulatory changes under a progressive banking committee.
Meanwhile, tech remains a strong performer, though rotation into consumer staples, healthcare, and clean energy is already evident. The political landscape for 2028 is evolving: Republicans may move away from MAGA ideology toward centrist candidates, while Democrats could see a rise in progressive figures if economic conditions improve. Overall, the election results highlight a new dynamic where economic sentiment, not just ideology, drives market movements, and investors should expect continued shifts in sector performance and policy direction.
FAQs
Markets are showing a typical response to a Democratic majority: equities rising, yields declining, and the dollar weakening. However, the broader impact may be more significant due to the large margin of victory and increased potential for policy changes.
Governors in key data center states like Texas, Georgia, and Ohio may introduce policies that could either support or restrict construction. This could create near-term volatility, especially in tech and AI-related sectors.
Federal AI regulation is likely limited, with most policy decisions shifting to state levels. However, Congress may introduce guardrails around environmental standards or superintelligence, adding some regulatory clarity.
Energy and financials may underperform. Energy stocks could decline due to expectations of reduced tariffs and the end of the 'iron war,' while financials face pressure from potential regulatory changes under a progressive banking committee.
Term premia on longer-term bonds may rise due to increased fiscal spending plans and deficit concerns, leading to a steeper yield curve than historically observed.
A larger majority increases the likelihood of using the nuclear option to bypass the filibuster, enabling faster passage of ambitious spending and social policy initiatives.
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