451: Blood Work Is the New Fitness Trend — And It’s Being Misused

What is happening in your business? What is happening? Why did we go into a doctor's office and we're over the age of 30 and not going to PSA score? How in the world are you leaving off the CRP? This doesn't make sense as these are all very important factors for us being able to understand our health. I've even seen insulin left off of lab reports before A1C. What am I supposed to do with your glucose if I don't understand your insulin and your A1C? Let's talk about what are we missing in terms and if you have background knowledge on why doctors' panels seem to be so bare? I would love for you to share some insight there. I don't know the specifics behind all of this but I think when you get into the hospital systems, insurance, I think there are incentives for only ordering specific things. I also think doctors don't necessarily look at their specific trends and it might not be things that you and I consider. I do think that insulin is very interesting because we get on a CMP, we get glucose, but I want to see glucose and insulin together, right, fasted. But I also do want to remind people that the normal ranges are on a population that is what's percentage of obesity right now. I mean, we're going to be at 50% at the last year. I want to get this right. Last year, the barrier for what is considered metabolic dysfunction was changed and it's like 94% of Americans. I think only 12% of people are metabolically healthy. That's what it was. That's what it was. That is horrendous. I believe the best work that I've done in terms of fitness and body body was my work on metabolism. I consider myself a world leading expert in that. That is something that if you're a doctor and you come in my comments and you give somebody T4 for Hashimoto's, you are so far. There's nothing. We probably can't even agree on what day of the week it is because we are playing two. We're living in two different worlds. What do you, let me ask you, what do you like to see insulin? What do I like to see insulin at? It's good to depend on what phase somebody is in. I've worked with a lot of bodybuilders. If you're a bodybuilder who's super lean for a show, your insulin is still a 10 to me. That's super weird. Because closer to a show, you're going to be like, we're going to get down low single digits. But man, for someone who's a lifestyle person, if our A1C is great, I like under 5/2 is getting pretty good. For me, it's a 4.9. I like 4 to 6. I like 4 to 6. I think it's like, I think that's a solid range. So then if the insulin is going to be at 10 and 9 and 8, I'm pretty happy with that. But man, the lower that insulin goes, of course, I'm a very muscle-driven, a voice-man muscle. I believe people should have muscle and a sign of how healthy you are is how well you build muscle. Well, the lower that insulin score goes. The greater likelihood of building muscle you do have two, a point of diminishing return to where insulin, IGF, it drops down if it gets too low, whatever. But man, if you're that single digit range, 6 to 10, 6 to 11, we're pretty fucking good. My insulin was at 8. Have you ever looked at what the upper end of normal end of 24.2? Is normal in the United States. Is normal. So when they say you're lab general, I can't lose weight. Well, your insulin's 20. Your insulin's 23. If you see an insulin of 24, do you expect cortisol? I'm not sure I can trust the cortisol reading if insulin's that high is they're antagonistic of one another. I'm not sure I can trust the cortisol reading. I think cortisol is hard though on blood work, right? Like you're getting one point and I think cortisol's hard on blood work. People need to understand that if you really want to see a cortisol trend, a Dutch, the Dutch, I think it's the Dutch cars, which it's like specifically meant for cortisol signaling or spit testing is probably what I look at. The 24 hour reading. Yes. So I do like on Dutch tests that it does give a metabolized cortisol reading to you because you could have super high cortisol, but not metabolizing it at all. And really you're just getting drunk. With normal blood work though, we can take insulin cortisol, pleasure, body temperatures and get an understanding of what cortisol's going to be. Yeah. But obviously body temperatures aren't measuring the blood test. That's something that we use within the ECA and our frameworks. Yeah. So to just going back there is I just feel like a lot of people come to me and they're like, I'm still feeling this way, but you know, and so many people on the internet are saying it like your normal labs are not optimal and that is true. Right. I almost wish that we had a secondary range, right? Or like, you know, you see those diagrams where it's like normal. Yeah. Like I almost wish we could create that blood test. Well, inside of Alito S, we have functional health ranges on every single thing that we do. And that's why that client check in app is the world leading class because we also have a patent pending on that. So if anyone else wants to create a lab analyzer even close to what we have, sorry, you cannot. So we're the best in class and we're the first in the world to have that. And that's why we put it in there so that we can actually see, okay, this is what normal fat fucking people who, you know, 88% of Americans are poor metabolic health. This is their readings, but this is our, this is accepted functional health framework readings. And this is where you actually want to be in our lab analyzer inside of lead OS handles that for clients and coaches alike. Yes. Yes. It is amazing. It is world class. I can't wait. You know, and it's interesting too because I love ECA and I love the people that we attract, right? Because you're taking responsibility for your health. It's a much different data set than I think what doctors are typically seeing. So, you know, my question is, and again, good and bad doctor is good and bad coaches good and bad everything. But a lot of people are not used to seeing metabolically healthy individuals. So it's like, is the game plan the same? Right? So I had, for example, I had a client, I have a client and he has genetic cholesterol. We've been working on a lot of different things, you know, he was on Clomand, like getting the hormones right, getting the gut right, bio flow, push too much bio flow. Okay. Colossal went up, like just watching the trends and me being able to kind of see, okay, well, we did this and it resulted in in this, right? And so he was like, you know, what do you think? Like, should I go on a statin? Again, like when he came to me, he was on a statin. No. No, he, but I was like, no, you know, so I actually like dove into each medication with him. And I still obviously go see your doctor, right? But he had a conversation with the doctor. They see, yeah, doctors, I hope you. Yeah, but, but he saw his cardiologist and he was like, you know, what if we did Zedia, Zedamai, right? Instead of a statin. Okay. At this point, because the statin made him pre-diabotic, right? So it flipped the other way. The destroyer mitochondria health. It's destroyed the mitochondria health and, you know, blood sugars were crazy. So we actually had to work with that side of things and now we're at a point, you know, we're working the gut health. And he's like, I just want to make sure I'm keeping it and check. He was soup A1C 4.9, right? Like DHA in a really great spot. Triglisser, it's in a great spot. But we still have the APOB, the lipoprotein A. And so he actually asked, you know, can we use the Zedamai as a monotherapy? And I said ask. It's usually not, but ask him and have that conversation with him. And his doctor had to Google it. Oh, yeah. And so, but we've actually -- It's Dr. Goodges, do you see that? But we had great results with it. And the thing he came back to me and he said, listen, he's like, you know, my doctor had to Google this, which was kind of scary. But he's not used to seeing metabolically healthy people. Right. So it's like -- but to that point, when it comes to heart health and atherosclerosis, you know, we're giving statins that's actually making more metabolically unhealthy. Well, if statins are so good for us, why is heart disease still the number one cause of -- - Yeah, but-- - Love it, sorry. - Maybe a lot for that before I get canceled here again on the tube. Genetic testing. Why do we do it? What does it give us? And then how do we take that information and help fix problems? - I absolutely love genetic testing. It's probably my favorite out of everything because it's giving the blueprint to you, right? And so I think when you wanna understand and work backwards of, okay, someone's immune system is super upregulated. You have MCAS, you have all these different things. Okay, well what genetic blocks do they have? What methylation blocks do they have? Also you don't have an MTHFR diagnosis. It's not a disease. And there are, this bothers me a lot. I'm MTHFR, that's great. There are so many different genetic blocks that go along with MTHFR, right? So we have to understand B12, full-late, catabolism, we have to understand the remethalation cycle as well as the methylation cycle. So MTHFR, Gary Breckas over here selling a panel for $500 for five. Like we test, I think 30 to 50 genes on the ones that we use in EFH. And it's giving you your immune system, your mitochondrial genetics, your methylation genetics, detox genetics, right? So we do have to understand methylation. I'm not saying that that's not the point, but having one gene or one block and one gene isn't giving us the whole story, right? And then we can look at it from both a supplementation standpoint and what we need to do for nutrients as well, right? Okay, I need more of this. I need more of that. I need more liver support. I'm more likely to react a specific way if my detox pathways are bogged down. I am what's really interesting to me is I'm gluten free. I had to go gluten free at the age of 14 when I got really sick, how I got into all of this. But I don't have the HLA genes at all, which make you more sensitive to gluten and casene. What I do have every genetic block to is anything that has to do with chemical sensitivities, right? So when we think of glyphosate, when they started spraying our crops with glyphosate, and that toxic load building and building and building, okay, well, I think that's my problem, not necessarily gluten, right? And so we can-- - And gluten is heavily sprayed with glyphosate. - Yes, yes, and I mean, if you-- - Most people have a glyphosate, they should not have gluten problem. - Exactly, right? And so, you know, not too is a gene that really has to do. I have full blocks in it. Those people are super sensitive to the environmental sense, you know, I get in an uber and it has a air freshener. - Oh, my God, dude. - I want to die. I mean, like I cannot sit in it. - I'm super sensitive to smell. - Yeah, that's partly the chemical. - Is it-- - To be not too. - Do you remember when we were kids, it was still legal to smoke cigarettes inside? - Crazy. - We would go to cracker barrel often, and I love cracker barrel. But a lot of people were sitting there smoking. - Yeah. - I would go in and I would just feel so like awful. But like, I don't wear-- I don't wear clone. - Yeah. - I wear non-fragant deodorants. - Yeah. - Because it bothers me so bad. What did you say that was? - Not too. - Okay, actually, I don't know that. I'm very sensitive. - I don't think we did your genetic test. - I haven't done genetic test. - We should do it. But we do, I absolutely love it. And you can see too, if people are gonna aromatize into estrogen quickly. So it's like, hey, I gotta be careful. If I'm gonna take testosterone, I will aromatize quickly. - Yeah. - And you can see some thyroid indication. You can see a huge one that they added was a blood clotting one. So this is crazy to me. - It's gigantic. - It's gigantic, right? So let's just talk about birth control for a second. - Oh yeah. - I probably cycled through every single birth control to the point where they finally put me on yes. Anyone knows yes? You were 10 times more likely to clot. Well, I had that predisposition to clotting. And then I was drinking like a fish. I'm super stressed out. I'm overeating but undernearish, right? I'm describing the US population right now. I'm way more likely to get that blood clot, right? But I could have known that beforehand. - Yeah. - Why aren't a genetic test is 500 bucks? - Yeah. - Why aren't, what are we doing? - Yeah. - Right? We can tell you're a topology genes, the likelihood that you need to fast a little bit more or work more, the eat last move more is a form of fasting, right? That exercise is a form of a topology. How are your topology blocks? Do we need to put that as a focus to clear senescent cells? Are you more likely to develop senescent cells from the mitochondria decisions making? Do you need more? - Senescent cells like zombie cells for those who don't know. - I always tell people for senescent cells, I think of like, if I asked you to draw a healthy cell, what would you draw? - Around circle. - Around circle. What would you draw if it was a senescent cell? - It's like a zonbi, like jagged, right? So you got these damaged cells and then how do we clear those damaged cells? Because those-- - So if you're high senescent cells, I think of walkie dead. - Yeah. - The uninfected people are the healthy cells and then there's so many more senescent cells so what do you think happens to your body next? Eventually all gets taken over. - Yeah, and if there's a trigger than the zombies, has that, have you watched them? What's that mushroom show? - I've definitely not watched it. - Oh my gosh, it was like a video game. I'm drawing a plane going. - I don't know. - The last of us, have you watched that? - Okay, no, I've not. - So basically, they eat them, they eat this thing that's infected with fungus and then basically when you get infected, the body just goes, yeah. - Yeah. - You become a zombie and so, but you have to think about the joint level, right? Or the weakest link, whatever the weakest link as you probably have more senescent cell build up there. Makes sense. So genetic testing, after we get that, we're pretty much, I mean, that's the first thing we do is somebody comes in and hires us for one to one. Then all of that, we build their plan based off of what we're seeing in this genetic testing and that's how we're able to guarantee results so quickly. - Build plan and education. - And education. - The education around you. - Yeah, Dutch testing, Divein. - Dutch testing, kind of talked about this before. I think it's a really good way to see level of hormone, but you're measuring it from tissue testing, right? We have blood testing, we have tissue testing, right? So this is a urine sample. You get cortisol, your cortisol curve, four or five point curve. You could see metabolized cortisol and so you're seeing level of hormone, but you're also seeing how you're detoxing that hormone through the liver, through phase one and phase two detox. You'll also get some neurotransmitters as well, so we can maybe see some vitamin deficiency is B6, B5. What does dopamine and some of those neurotransmitters looking at, it's not inherently an oat test, but you kind of get that with it. I do really like using it, I'm gonna do one on myself, I'm a little bit nervous to see it. You can also see Androgen breakdown, right? So when you're considering things like PCOS, and you have some of those male dominant symptoms going on, and they're likely pushing a five alpha pathway, and you'll be able to very clearly see what pathways that they are pushing down. So then when you really get focused on liver support or methylation support, you can kind of try to understand how to shift those pathways. So I do really like it. - I love Dutch testing. You're the queen of genetic testing, we started doing that after I was not coaching folks anymore. But the genetic testing seems to be like a much bigger mover right away, so Dutch testing is kind of a tier two thing that we'll do. Chas, be real quick about MRT. - I love that MRT. MRT has probably saved my life, it saved my life when I was 14, because I felt so sick that I wanted to end my life like I was low low. You're 14, you're not feeling good, you're getting bullied at school, you got acne. - Acutane took me there. - Yeah? - Yeah, so I'm saying my brother was, my brother did two rounds of acutane, and I didn't, for only time he ever broke a bone. It was on acutane. So the MRT is the mediator release test. So a lot of people like to do food sensitivity testing, that's only IgG sensitivity testing. Well, if I eat steak five days in a row, guess what, IgG is gonna build. That's just the nature of that food, is food will cause an immune response. That's not necessarily a bad thing. The MRT is going to be endpoint sensitivity testing, right? So whatever you're releasing, his to mean cytokines in a relic, it's gonna measure the endpoint reactivity of that. And so you're actually seeing the mediator inflammation over just the IgG testing. So I think IgG is a complete waste of time, and that's why you see so many people who are like, "Oh, I did a food sensitivity test, and everything that I eat. sensitive to. Well, yeah, that's it's a really expensive food log. That's how that works. Yeah. Right. But for gut testing, for gut health as a whole, if you've had gut issues or skin issues, this was a really big mover for my skin as well. If you've had that for over six months, GIMAP, MRT, I actually make I want to make this like a gut fix program in EFA towards it's those two tests you're coming in specifically for that because while you're working the gut, especially with skin issues, you want to remove the foods that are causing problems so that when you're working the gut, you're not getting an immune response from the food, right? So the people who are really reactive to supplements, to food, to environment, to literally everything is helping us calm that down so we can actually do the work that we need to do. Most recently, when I was having like perioral dermatitis and I part of that was the pill and all of that balance, I did another MRT test and I was reacting to chicken like immediately. I was getting dots like all over the place so it can really help pull that out. I've also seen you know, people who truly had mold or things like that. I will say it's the fastest way to work. If you have a GI map and you have an MRT, I haven't lost at all. I had zero guesswork with that. I love it. Pull out those foods. Now I will say that MRT can be very, very emotional for some people, right? If coffee came back on my MRT, high, I would be really upset. Because it labels it green yellow red. You typically take out the yellows for three to four months. You typically take out the reds for six months. So if coffee came back red, I would be like, "But you can also have coffee okay, but caffeine, high." So you have to kind of look at some of these things. And it's interesting because it'll break down your dairy proteins too and to cheddar cheese, dairy, goat's milk, butter. It'll also give chemical sensitivities. So there are people who can do better with ibuprofen or over Tylenol. So it'll tell you that. Not that I want you necessarily taking either. But it's been really helpful for myself. I've used it with my mom before because she's a sensitive flower. We got to work with. But that is the only food sensitivity test that I use. Yeah. MRT is amazing. Hopefully you guys have some clarity on why we do the labs that we do and why this is so much more advanced than the labs that you might be getting. So you go to your doctor, yet labs back. Everything looks good. We're missing so many factors that actually move the needle. That the copperheadcipato from your doc is so 2015. We're in 2026 and ECA is leading the way. Lizzie, thanks for coming on and adding so much value. We want to reach out and work with us. One to one or you want to learn all these skillsets to better help your clients. Shoot me a DM on Instagram, ECA and I'm going to get you in today. I'll see you next time.