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Man, I don't even remember what day is the weekend, what's not the weekend. It's all like blending in. Me neither, bro. Yeah. Yeah, it's that time of year. I'm just trying to enjoy every moment of the holiday season. I like looking around. I like seeing the decorations. I like seeing the trees up. You got the Christmas spirit? Yes, man. I always got the Christmas spirit. Nah, you a little bar humbug, bro. Nah, nah, nah. You are with your whole like hot take about, you got your little hot take about it. Christmas ain't even about Jesus or whatever. Like he's not even a star of his own birthday. Well, that's because of the world. That's because of the society that we live in. But you also like the Christmas trees. You like the polar bears. You like all these, what is that called? Because I like the joy that the season brings. But yes, I do feel like people have taken the Christ out of Christmas in a lot of ways. Like you talk about who headlines the holidays. You don't got nothing about Jesus. You don't got nothing about Jesus in here. I see Frosty the Snowman. Yo, Frosty got front villain. You see what I'm saying? That's a great point. Frosty the Snowman. Somehow the Grinch has jumped to the front of the line. And he was supposed to be. We love villains. We love villains. We love a villain, bro. Right, right. Rudolph, the red-nosed reindeer. You know what I mean? Jesus is supposed to be number one. Then Santa. You know what's wild? Then everybody else. My daughter, we've been playing like Christmas music. She loves Rudolph, the red-nosed reindeer. Right? You got to play the DMX version. That's coming. That's coming. But there is something where it's like, I wonder if these record companies, what if you just play albums for kids, and they'll let you know what the hit single is? Because the kids don't think about taste or anything. They're just naturally reacting to the rhythm of this song, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they fall in love with it. So she has self-selected Rudolph over every other Christmas song that we played. We played them all. We're not trying to get her into Rudolph. She just self-selected. And I would imagine it's the same way for any pop album. I bet you if you just take a bunch of two-year-olds, you put them in a room, and just play pop albums, they will let you know what the hits are. You know what's interesting? I think kids can feel intention. So I think sometimes a lot of this pop music is so manufactured, and there's no real intent except to make money. When you hear Rudolph, the red-nosed reindeer, you can hear the emotion. It's a victim. Somebody went in there happy as shit. It's a victim story. A red-nosed reindeer. Really? He was a big. Yeah. And if you ever saw him, you would even say it. You know how good that made me feel as a big-nosed little kid? My nose could be. No, my nose could be used for something. We don't accept you. What do you mean, we don't accept you? No, no. He got a snozz. His snozz gets some. People think he's Jewish because of his snozz. Yeah. And my last name. That's too much definition. Yeah, but here's the thing about your guys. You guys are expected to have big noses. Right. I'm not. So it's working. It works for me. You turned it this way? Yeah. Damn. Nah. Damn. You almost poked your own in me. I had to duck it. It's healthy. No, no. I have a strong nose. I have a presidential nose. Right, right. Of course. I mean, all the greatest men in history had big noses. We know that. We can look at them and see. This is 100% a fact. It's obviously a sign of intelligence, cock length. Fuck off. Isn't it crazy? I saw you start talking about Jesus, one of the Jewish people in the. I mean, start talking about Jesus, one of the Jewish people. I mean, he is the most famous Jew in history. Absolutely. There is no. The greatest Jewish man in history was Jesus. It's not even a question. Who's number two? Fucking. How about Einstein? You think Einstein? I'm just throwing out names. Einstein was Jewish? Come on. He's the. Einstein? I never thought about what Einstein was. You think the smartest man in the world was anything but? Have you heard a more Jewish name than Einstein? Oh, yeah. What the fuck is going. Can you learn how to be racist a little better? What the fuck is this open-mindedness over here? Yeah. Well, good job, Albert Einstein. Yeah. He was a goat. But I think most famous Jewish person in history is definitely. It's Jesus. And then after that, it's probably Larry David. Larry David is up there. You think Larry David is after Jesus? Or Adam Sandler. Google it. Google it, bro. Larry David or Adam Sandler. 100%. Seinfeld? Seinfeld? No. Larry. Not anymore. Larry. Not anymore? Larry got that over Seinfeld. Because of Curb? Yeah. And also just because of Larry. Google top 10 most famous Jewish people of all time. Top 10 most famous. I mean, Abraham, Moses, like these types of guys. Let's step out of the Bible. Yeah. Let's go outside the Bible. Top 10 most influential Jews. Who's number one? Wow. Einstein. Yeah, but that's. Jesus is obviously the one. Hold on now. I said the top 10 most famous Jews is subjective. Because they did have all the Bible people. I did not know Stan Lee was Jewish. Maybe that was obvious. Never occurred to me. Stan Lee's up there, bro. Barbra Streisand, Jerry Lewis, Bob Dylan. The top 10 most famous Jews is subjective. I think if you change your name to not be Jewish. Doesn't count. It doesn't count. Ralph Lauren. You're out. You're out. No, no. You got to own it. What do you think about that? In order to be considered the top. Always felt that way. You have to own the Jewishness. Because otherwise, you don't really know. You don't know if people love you in spite of you being Jewish. But you kind of had to change your last name to survive, though. What do you mean? In order to express whatever greatness you had, you didn't want to experience the prejudice, so you get rid of the Stein. Yes, yes. Or, or, or it is advantageous in some reason. So it's not about survival. It's always like, yo. I mean, it is about survival. Zuckerberg's up there. It is kind of about survival, though. In some situations, yes. You would have got discriminated against. Ralph Lauren, I don't. I think he would have survived just fine. But I think that he thought it was advantageous. Oh, that's not his real name? No. His name is like Ralph Lipschitz or something like that. Ralph Lipschitz, yeah. But it's like, in order for him to build a brand around WASP culture, which is like, you know, prototypical New England whites, he needed to adopt a name that represented that. Sigmund Freud, that's a big one. Freud. Damn, bro. All your mental health, and you can't even pronounce the number one. Sigmund Freud. Sigmund food. Nah, because when I see stuff, my mind. Says it the way it looks. But my body. Jesus Christ. Telling me, yeah. Abraham, Moses. Moses had a run, yo. That's a crazy top three. You really can't just knock that. That top three is hard to beat. You got to give it to him. I mean, God damn. You got to give it. Now, here's the question, though. Jesus, Moses, and Abraham, bro, that's the only other three that can do that in style. She can kiss, bro. That's a hell of a top three right there. That's a crazy trio. Jews got a great top three, bro. They got a great top three. That's a hell of a top three. All right, top three blacks, go. Let's do it. Let's look it up. Top three, top ten African-Americans. No, don't put African-Americans. Just top blacks. Yeah, top ten black. There you go. Yeah. If you put bottom blacks, Al's going to pop up on that like three or four times. Come on. You don't do it, too. I'm sorry. I got the Christmas spirit in me. Good one. All right. Muhammad Ali. Unbelievable. I don't know if this is a list, though. This is African-Americans. You're not counting like the King Mensa from. Mansa Musa. Yeah. I mean, he did Google top ten black people, but they just said African-Americans. So that's a little. Google don't care about the rest. All right. Let's just go. Top, top. Look at that list you had, Chris. Can we go top blacks? Top ten black people of all time. Go. That's Wikipedia. Just do top ten in your heart. What's in your heart? Michael Jordan. Nah. I'm OK. Over Jordan? Yeah. See, it's hard to be objective. See, I can't be objective. Six for six in a final? Well, right. Yeah, I'm OK. Definitely over. Come on. Over Jordan? Well, see, I got Elijah Muhammad over both of them. I got the honor bro, Elijah Muhammad. Over Jordan? Can Elijah Muhammad go six for six in a finals? But listen, when you talk about. He dunked for the free throw line with a gold chain on? See, I. Competitiveness. I talk about who. Who. Who. For a fruit, right? Yeah. You're talking about honorable Elijah Muhammad, man. Don't talk about his followers like that, bro. They're not fruits. They're not fruits, bro. That's disrespectful, bro. Fruit of Islam. That's disrespectful to the nation, bro. Fruit of Islam. Can you take that back? No, it's fruit of Islam. Now, what you're trying to do is disrespectful. And you don't want no problems. I'm defending them. The honorable Elijah Muhammad, right? So that means Malcolm X. No, no. You don't get credit for what you birthed. You get credit for what you did. It was Honorable Aja Muhammad. the nation of Islam. So you don't even get Malcolm X, Muhammad Ali, the Honorable Minister Louis Frack. You don't get all of these people who converted to Islam without the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. Alright, so fine. Muhammad Ali isn't as good as his coach then. Something to that. There's no Muhammad Ali without the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. No, I'm talking about his boxing coach. Who was Muhammad Ali's boxing coach? Customato. Yeah, but without Michael Jordan, you wouldn't be a great NBA player. I really, I really, hold on one second. We're bugging, we're bugging, we're bugging. We're talking about fruits of the tree. We're bugging Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan! We're bugging about something. Muhammad Ali is Muhammad Ali because of what he did outside of the ring. Alright, alright. Let's be clear about that. Alright. You're bugging, you're bugging. But what he did outside of the ring made his legend great. But we wouldn't have paid attention to him if he wasn't the best heavyweight. Top ten, top ten. Alright, can we just do top five black people of all time? Top five. Oh, I was tough, man. Alright, you want to go, y'all want to go MLK? Okay, okay, okay. You want to go MLK? Okay, I got you, I got you. Top five black people of all time. Number one, Jesus. Alright. Number two. Y'all keep on thinking of your ass. But number one is Jesus. Number one, number one is Jesus. Yo, yo, no, he's not. Jesus is more Arab, bro. We're going to get to them next. Hey, number one is Jesus. No, no, no. Let's just do top five. Give me the list. Give me the list, Chris. This is tough. I can't believe it. Right there, right there, right there. I can't believe you're not going to put the greatest great of all time. Michael Jordan is the greatest competitor in the history of organized or unorganized sports. How could you not even? He's not even coming up for y'all? I don't know where he ranks when you talk about all time. I put Michael Jackson over Jordan. That's not controversial, Alex. That is not a controversial take. Yo, come on. That is not controversial. Yo, hold on. I got Michael over Michael, too. Michael Jackson, the greatest. Is he the greatest black man of all time? Michael's top five. Because here's the thing, what we're doing. We're putting like social impact and we're ranking that higher. What we just got to talk about is the greatness in your field and look at the fields equivalently. So if you're in sports, that counts the same as if you have social impact, which counts the same as if you have business impact. It's not the same as if you're a political leader. What was the criteria for Jewish people? Noses. Isn't that what Chris started it with that? You said that in the beginning. Black people can compete with that. Black people can definitely compete with that. They can definitely compete in the nose category. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Nelson Mandela got to be up there. Nelson Mandela. Nelson Mandela got to be up there, bro. Now you got to throw Nelson up there. Because I look at the degree of difficulty, too. Crazy. That's what I'm saying. Nelson's degree of difficulty was crazy, bro. Yup. Nelson Mandela. Yes, top five easily, man. A global symbol of resistance, freedom fighters, South Africa's first black president who led the nation out of apartheid. Come on, man. Did 25 in prison? And see, it's all about what you do once you face the difficulty. He did 25 then came home and became the president of South Africa. But also united the country. It's not like he created a country that was completely flipped and now subjugated the white people in it. Got the country out of apartheid and united the country to be a functional democracy. This is a fantastic. Bro, like, that is Okay, I got it. I'm going Jesus. No, no, no, no. We're not doing that. We're not doing it. What about, like, a Minhotep, like one of the ancient Egyptian architects? Well, see, I was going to go Mansa Moussa. Okay. So give me Mansa Moussa. Okay. World's richest person ever. Do we know that? Allegedly. I mean, that's what the Screech say. 17th century emperor who's pilgrimage showcased the immense wealth and power of West Africa, influencing global trade and perception. All right. Give me Mansa Moussa. Give me Nelson Mandela. Okay. Right. Give me the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. Give me Martin Luther King Jr. No women on this list. Damn. Damn. You ain't have no Jewish people on y'all list. Damn. Rachel? Was it no women on the Jewish list, Chris? What, Ms. Rachel? Chris, was it no women on the Jewish list? Rachel? Nah, you could put, you could put, um, you could put Cleopatra? Mary. Mary. Jesus' mother. Thank you. If we're really talking about the people who, who bore fruit, Mary. But we can't. And you can't put Mary if I can't get Jesus. Mary. Mary is a, is a, I think Mary's Middle Eastern. So what was Jesus? Middle Eastern. Semitic. I don't know about that. They say his skin was bronze. Yeah. Semitic. I'm taking that. Semitic. We got some bronze. We don't got no bronze. Fuck out of here, bro. Fuck out of here. Honorable Elijah Muhammad, Nelson Mandela, Mansa Musa, um, who's the other person I said? You didn't say Martin Luther King. Martin Luther King Jr. and, uh, Kodak Black. Nah. Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson. There we go. That's a list. All right. All right, Chris. Top five Asians of all time. I feel like I gotta put Oprah up there, too, though. Nah. Yeah. No, yes. Sometimes. No, no, no, no. I'll tell you what. Oprah, yo, bro, there's not too many people. What she carved out. What she carved out. Oprah changed the world, bro. Also, the other thing to look at is, like. Yeah, but look at her fruit. Dr. Phil. And? And? Dr. Oz. And? Rachel Roy. I'm not liking them. Before you knew they politics, they was top of the world, bro. Yeah, but forget the fruit thing. What she was able, like, the competition that she had at the time was unbelievable. She's going against legacy media, carved out her own lane as a black woman in the 80s? A heavyset black woman in the 80s with a name, Oprah. And dominated culture. And the world fell in love with her. Like, she shattered the perception of all demographics and everything. It was like, wait a minute. All of these Midwestern white women and all these white women down south love her? Hot take. Hot take. You ready? Hot take. You ready? We talk about who Joe Rogan is. He's the modern-day Johnny Carson or whatever. There's no modern day Oprah. He was Oprah. Little Stern. He's modern-day Oprah. Who? For the interviews. I'm talking about cultural impact. Oh, okay. You go on Rogan, your book is number one. You went on Oprah. Yes, of course, of course. I see what you're saying. I'm trying to find the equivalent. I think just because he's in the comedy space, we go comedy. But I'm talking about the impact of the amount of trust people had in Oprah. The amount of belief. If she got behind something, it was. The one thing I'll say that I think Oprah has over Rogan, I think people. People. Rogan does that for certain communities, right? Like, if you're a comedian, sort of, kind of, with fighters, but fighters still got to go in the ring and prove themselves, but definitely with comedians. If you're in wellness space, if you're in. Like, huge in the wellness space. He is? Oh, my God. He's the one who put on all these wellness doctors, these longevity doctors. Oh, I didn't know that. Science space. I didn't know that. In the same way that. All I'm trying to say is the trust that people had in Oprah. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Oprah, like, yeah. Oprah. Oprah had a level of trust that was unbelievable. I can't even really. Man. But also, I was about to say, you can't really think of a platform like that now, but everything was different back then. It wasn't as fragmented as it is now. I agree. You know what I'm saying? Oprah came on at 4 o'clock or 5 o'clock in some markets every day. Wasn't shit else to watch. Wasn't nothing else to watch. You were captivated. Like, them type of numbers she was getting is unbelievable. Forget it. Okay. Top five Asians. Go. Chris, take it away. I don't like this list particularly. I mean, you would have Confucius on there. Where the fuck is Bruce Lee? Also, also, also. First of all, where the fuck is Bruce Lee? Let me just. He's on there. He's on there. Where? It's Jackie Chan slash Bruce Lee, which is crazy to think of. Oh, shit! You're right! I thought you was making a joke. No, that's literally on the list. That shit says Jackie Chan slash Bruce Lee, Hong Kong slash. I want to just do a caveat here. When we're talking about Asians, okay, we're not talking about Indian. Thank you. You know what we're talking about when we say Asian. Right. Okay? Yes. Go. Gandhi. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's a different one. We'll do that one. Top five Asians. Top five Asians. Who wrote the Tao? Religion. If you don't know him, he's not there. Who wrote Art of War? Sun Tzu. Pretty influential to this day. You got him number one up the top? No, I said. Oh. I'd have to think about this one. Top five Asians. Go. See, Chris, he don't want to freestyle this because he's going to Taiwan. Yeah, you need to be respectful. You don't want to argue with him around the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chinese are pretty good, I guess. Who's the one that had all the offspring? Oh, Genghis Khan. I guess he's number one. Wasn't he like a dictator or something? Not a nice guy. Brutal tyrant. Not a nice guy. You can't make him number one. Why not? Come on. If like, 50% of Asians have a piece of his DNA in them. Damn! What does that mean? That's some bad shit, bro. Some bad shit is what that means. Jesus, Genghis Khan was wild. All right, can we go top five Asians? Can we just say it? I'm trying to think. Bruce Lee's in the top five. That's the thing, like, we're hesitant to put Bruce Lee because he's like an action star and a martial artist, but why don't we talk about global impact of Bruce Lee? He's not even close. What did he do globally for ASIANS. what did he do very significant did he reinforce a lot of stereotypes that exist to this day yeah what do you mean bruce lee was so dope that every other race acknowledged him as like the bar for something you might you might be the last dragon for the bruce lee impact man let me tell you something do you remember the last dragon bro this day yeah to this day if you get into a fight with an asian dude in the street and he fucking yeah you're gonna be like you got it bro right that is the that is the effect of bruce lee people don't know what that is though what does that mean the stance you just made i know it because i'm old enough to know it do any stance any stance any stance all right no that's not true you do that karate case shit i'm beating the shit what if he goes like this what if he goes like that what if he what if he goes like that see that's it but that's that's dragon ball z if he goes like that's different but i gotta see some shit glowing if you do this shit to me i'm fucking you up yeah i'm fucking you up because it was an italian kid i don't believe you know nothing but because it was an italian kid it was an italian kid that's true that's true that is true that is true what about my man uh why the dodgers right now who who greatest baseball player oh yeah yeah yeah the dodger dude so tony oh babe no shohei otani yeah shohei otani okay otani he's up there he's up there it's crazy we're struggling with this one they have the majority of people no it's crazy chris is struggling with this one yo i'm about to take your yellow card and i'm going to take your yellow card and i'm going to i'm about to take your yellow card chris i thought you knew something about this is crazy come on bro i need can we all right why don't we change the top germans can we just name five asians how about that name five rush i was that fire to people no rush i was crazy yeah rush i was rush i was that fired and he gets a top five trump wants to bring it back yeah he's like mandatory we need another rush hour you know that shit affected trump and this is kind of racist for asians i'm not gonna lie like it seems like all dalai lama yo dalai lama up there we still don't know what he did we don't know what he did i didn't even think i didn't know the dalai lama was asian i know it was a real person what else hello kitty goku ali wong goku manny pack i'm gonna be honest with you asians it's kind of a boring list yo it is you know what it is boring list you know what it is asians dominate in terms of like successful this guy right here we might have my guy right here you gotta put jensen you gotta put jensen hong and hong you gotta put jensen hong jensen hong is up there see president and ceo of nvidia he's gotta put jensen on there all right i got top five agents jensen hong bruce lee ollie wong you're putting ali top five asians of all time ali wong of all time yes bro that's disrespectful to asians no no offense ali dalai lama all right let's start over here boom it's my top five what you're gonna do now what you're gonna do now that's my top five right there all right what else we doing y'all it's been an interesting week man um i wanted to know your thoughts on this topic tell me jason derulo doesn't want to work with women anymore do we have the clip chris this is interesting now remember um scroll up chris i want to read this right i want to read what happened because i think people forget uh hold on i'm gonna read the headline the headline says jason derulo i'll never work with women again jason derulo delivers shocking comment after sexual harassment case against him people was getting me too. I didn't even know Jason Derulo got caught up in this. But let's click on what he said. Chris. There's a lawsuit not too long ago by an artist that was like hired to your label that was dismissed. Twice. What did you learn going through that? Never work with women. Oh, come on. There's truth in every joke. But it's a sad, it's a sad truth. Like I will never be alone in a room with a woman that I work with, like ever. Ever again. Why? Look at the timing. It's too risky. That case was dismissed twice in two different states. And there's hardly no mention of it online. When that case was brought up, it was on every single blog, every single front page. And there's so many brand deals, relationships off of a story that was not even slightly believable. She said I sacrificed a goat in a sexual ritual. All people read was the headline, right? And that's all it takes to lose everything. That's a crazy concept. I lost millions of dollars off of a, a arbitrary story that some woman had told. Like a crazy, crazy story that someone had been told. So with that being said, how can I be comfortable being in a room with a woman that I, that I work with and not feel like she can just say whatever she wants. It's like, it's not, it's not worth it to me. It's like, it's not worth it to me. Listen, and I'm going to tell you something else. Go back, go scroll up to the headline, Chris. The media is still doing it because they'll put a headline, I'll never work with women again. Jason Derulo. You understand what I'm saying? He just said never being alone, being alone in a room with them. But listen, even if he did say I'll never work with a woman again, he said it in jest, but he said it as truth in every joke. My thing is just the context of why he said that. If you don't understand the context of why he said that, I don't know what to tell you. I thought he explained that very well just now. He's like, I was with a woman and she just made up some crazy wild shit and it became a headline everywhere and I lost millions of dollars. Why would I ever put myself in that situation? His PTSD is real. Let me pose something to you. Okay. Let's say that there's a girl and she had a horrible encounter with a dude. From a certain race. You guys pick your race. And then she said, I just never want to be alone in a room with a person of that race anymore. How would society view her? Good counter. Society might, and she got an actual reason because she did have a bad situation with them and she's now painting that entire race. Why would she make it race specific though? No, I'm hypothetically, I'm saying that. He's making it gender specific. Yeah. And she's like, this happened to me. This happened to me with a person from this race and now I don't feel comfortable with any of it. We would deem that person racist and that they're. But the reality is that's what we all do. We do do those broad generalizations, right? But we deem them wrong, right, societally. We go, that's. Well, it depends. If I have an encounter with a white person and it's a racist encounter, I'm already like, man, white people would be on some bullshit. And we would look at you and we would say, hey man, don't paint all white people like this. You would encounter with an asshole. Yeah. And I guess in this circumstance, we should also tell him, hey, you had an encounter with an asshole and it's probably not a good idea to paint all women with that same brush stroke or whatever that's. Especially if he's worried about losing brand deals. I'm like, this is not the way to get them back. But why can we not acknowledge his PTSD? You can say you have PTSD over the situation, which I thought sounded very authentic. Yeah. Without saying, I'll never be in a room with a woman again alone. I mean, it's easy to say that. You hate scooters, Chris. You want all scooters off the streets in New York because of one bad encounter because you stepped out on the sidewalk and somebody in a scooter came. You wanted all scooters. You never said that dumb ass driver that was riding the scooter. I said, if they're going the right way, I have no problem with it. You never have said that. On the street. Right way. No, right way. On the street. Right way. On the street. Wrong way. Sidewalk. They got to go. Nope. You wanted scooters off the street. You said it here on this podcast. I want scooters traveling at a safe speed in the right, right direction obeying traffic laws. It's very easy. Yo, why? Those people on the scooters, are they, are they immigrants? Are they? I don't know. Do you have an issue with immigrants, Chris? I do not. I, no matter who's on a scooter, I just want them to obey the laws of the city. I don't know if I actually believe that because you never say anything when Big Pum was on the Cherry Red 150. Damn. How fast was it moving? Not too fast. There you go. Also, man, you need a few more CCs to get that thing going. Also, we have like, we act like women don't do that type of generalization. I mean, women was online debating whether or not they could trust a bear or a man. All men. Right? Every man that you've ever encountered over a bear. I bet you met more men than you met bears. That's a good ass point. You was choosing the bear over the man because of the bad experiences that you had with a man or maybe a couple of men. So, man. So you're making my point. What? That you can't paint a whole group of people with the brushstroke. What is the saying? Broad brushstroke. Listen, I'm not saying. We say culturally not to do it. I think that what we're doing here is empathizing with this guy that went through a really fucking horrible situation. I empathize with everybody. If a girl tells me she had a bad experience, and she has PTSD because of it, and there's certain things that she's not going to do, or certain people she's not going to be around, I get it. I understand. Same thing with Jason Derulo. I get it. I understand. I see why he said what he said. But it's wrong. What he's saying is wrong. What's wrong? Because what he's doing is the same thing people do who think all Muslims are going to blow shit up. It's like, if that's the case, then Al and I got plenty of reason to be like, yeah, we don't trust Muslims because we saw the fucking planes fly into the building. But we don't do that. We understand that those are some crazy people. How long did it take you to get over that? Get over what? Did you ever feel like that? I never for a second judged Muslims afterwards. Exactly. What about you, Alex? What about you? When we were a little ignorant. Okay, so give him some time to get over. It's still fresh for him. I didn't chalk it up. I didn't chalk it up to Islam. I didn't say that every Muslim I saw was going to be. Yeah, I didn't chalk it up to that. I was just like, you know, when you saw the whole situation on a plane, you got a little worried. Worried? I didn't snitch on him. I didn't say yo. I'll tell you some shit. You was a little leery. Can I be honest with you? If I have my car parked and I see a woman trying to parallel park in front of it, I'll watch the entire parking lot. Oh, yes. Absolutely. If it's a woman, I'll watch the entire parking process to make sure she gets there. That's it. Gotta make sure these jokes didn't hit. Listen, listen, listen. I'm gonna watch the whole thing, right? And I'm gonna be there for 30 minutes, her trying to parallel park in a gigantic spot. I'm gonna watch the whole thing. Now, if it's a guy, I don't even watch. Bro, hold on. Let me tell you why that's so funny. I'm driving in Jersey the other day. I'm coming off the exit. And, you know, you're going around the exit. Like, you know, you're going around the exit and you're yielding. So it's a one-way. Some idiot is all coming this way. He's all on it. I'm like, what the fuck? Why would he even turn it? It's not a turn. So I'm looking. Asian. Asian. First thing I thought to myself was, I'm not even joking. The first thing I thought to myself was, it's not a stereotype if it's true. It's not true. I'm just telling you what I saw, Chris. I'm not. In this circumstance, in this circumstance, he's Jason Derulo. He trying to get home to his family. You been to Asia? Say again? Have you been to Asia? Yeah. What country? I went to, there's one, right? I went to China. Right. Yeah. How's the driving? Yeah, because they're all self-driving. Yeah. Self-driving cars. People drive their asses off. Because they're not even in control. What? Self-driving cars. No, scooters, cars. No, I went to Tokyo. I went to Tokyo. I'm sure the driving is beautiful in Tokyo. The driving was fantastic in Tokyo. But you have to understand, they're equally terrified of each other. So everybody's very close. Right? It's just a little bit more. What do you call the nuclear? You're going to be a little bit more concerned. That's it. All I'm saying is, it sounds crazy. No, it don't sound crazy. What people wanted to do is, they wanted to say it's sexist. But it's not sexist when you take in the context of what he's saying. It is sexist, but he's also weighing the risk. It's not sexist with the context, though. Because to your point, let's just say you said, like, that scenario is true, right? Yeah. I'm a little white girl. I get, you know, something happens to me by a black guy. Right? Right. If that person says to me, I don't want to be around any black men. That's racist. Because that happened. That's racist. Is it? Or is it because of a circumstance that happened to her? I got a perfect example of this. How is it racist? Go. Go with your perfect example. So I don't, a woman I went to college with lived somewhere across the street from Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. One day, she's like eight years old. The doorbell rings. She opens it. And Kareem is standing there holding her dead dog in his arms. And he said, my dog, your dog just got run over on my front lawn. Here it is. Who ran it over? I guess another neighbor. Oh. She claims she's always been afraid of black people since that moment. Because there's this seven foot two giant guy, black, holding her dead dog in her arms and gives it to her as a kid, which I think is a little nuts to do. Kareem, sorry if it really happened. What's the verdict? Yeah, you shouldn't be afraid of black people. Yeah, why would you be afraid of him, though? Yeah. He didn't harm her. That's like the first experience. He associates the trauma of the moment with this guy. Get over that shit. I don't understand that one. Because he didn't do anything to her personally. How about this? How about this? How about this, right? And he said that was a perfect example. No, that's not. That's a horrible example. How about this? It was an example that was presented to me. How about this? How about this? Jason Derulo could say this. Yo, this is ridiculous. I shouldn't be treating all women a certain way because of what this person is doing. This is what this one crazy woman did. But. I'm going to be cautious. I have so much to lose with one shitty interaction. I can't take the risk. In the same way that a person that's really rich and famous should not need to have security every single day. People should obey the law and not harass and attack you. But the risk is so great for a person who's really rich and famous. So they go, you know what? I'm going to have security. There's nothing wrong with that. Because what you're doing is, essentially, when you have security, you're assuming. You're assuming that there are people out there that are going to hurt you. And that's a real concern. So Jason Derulo, if he just framed it like, yo, this sucks. I love women. I want to work with women all the time. There are circumstances where I prefer working with women. But I feel like that's what he was doing, though. When he said. When he told you, I don't want to work with women, then he laughed. And then he was like. But what's another way that a lot of entertainers lose a ton of money? He gave this as an example. They get ripped off by their accounts, right? I gave you another example. I'm just using it from a corporate perspective. Right. If I have an issue. If I have somebody in corporate, I'm not having a conversation with that person without somebody else being present. Yes. Because that person will go twist your. I want everything on record. I want to have a supervisor or some superior in the room when I'm venting my frustration. But you're not saying I'm never going to work with a corporation again? A corporation? No, but I might not work with that person, that individual. Yeah. Well, that proves the point. You're like, I'm treating that individual based on their actions. So y'all think women are a corporation? I think they are. I think that we have to treat them like corporations. By the way, I'm not saying that he shouldn't work with women again. I'm just simply saying I can understand where he's coming from. That's all I'm saying. We all empathize with where he's coming from. And then on a daily basis, we take all these stereotypes that are floating around in our heads and we say, you know what? Those things are wrong and that we live in a civil society where we treat people equally and we give everyone a clean slate. But you don't see how the media took the actual nuance and context of the conversation. Of course, and they ruined it. Of course. And they reach baited it. Jason Derulo doesn't want to work with women. And that's the issue. That was also a point that he made. And yes, the media does that every single time. They do that with you. They do that with me. They do that with Jason Derulo. They do it with every single person, 100%. Somebody might take this and put, Charlemagne and God agrees, Jason Derulo shouldn't work with women. They will. They will. They will. Which is not what I'm saying. That's what you believe. What I'm simply saying is. Listen, here's the thing. Jason Derulo is in a very privileged position. He's like a very wealthy guy. He can afford to pay men to do those jobs. Plus, got to get women because they're about 25%. So, we're not in that situation where we can afford to only work with men. What an amazing privilege he has. You're not even trying to look at me at all. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're a mom. It's different. Moms are totally different. Listen, have you ever been warned by a woman? Have you ever had a woman say to you, hey, Charlemagne, watch that with her? Because she lies a lot. Taylor's done that for me. Really? You know girls out there that are lying a lot? Not only. I mean, not only. It had nothing to do with anything of this nature, but it was just like, yo, I don't know if I want you talking to that person about this because. I'll be honest. It's not even. That person's lying. It's not even girls. They're like dudes out there that we didn't hire, for example, because you just knew. You looked at their content and you knew that they were just going to make some video or do something. This is why I didn't want to work here, blah, blah, blah. You just knew their character. So that's just judging a person by their character. Yeah. I mean, listen, and nowadays. But you got me convinced. I think that we should just judge women all as one. I was getting better. I was becoming a more three-dimensional human being that sees the greatness and the flaws in each person. But you brought me back. You put some holiday spirit in me. It is, though. You know what, though? No, I'm going to stick with this. It is a constant. It is a constant process you have to go through. It is a constant process you have to go through in your mind to judge things on a case-by-case individual basis. It's just it. Because if you have one encounter with one race, one gender, one sexuality, that's what we do. We lump everybody together. Why? I don't know. I feel like in New York, we're so comfortable with each other that we judge people more by their clothing than we do by their race. But that's not always good. Think about how many times Alex got mistaken for gay. But that's a good thing. Only twice. In here. Never. No, never. That's a positive thing. I was having a conversation with somebody. They was like, yo, you talking about. Somebody was like, Alex the homo? And I'm like, yo, he is not. He's not gay. Exactly. Yo, guys, guys. Alex is not gay. Bro. He's not gay. I'm not even going to tell you what some people think the F in WTF means, bro. Yeah. I'm not even going to do that. That stands for wheezy because she's. She is, too. They think that it's an LGBTQ operation. Shut up. It is, though. It is. It is. I think it is. It's a black. What kind of benefit, y'all got benefits, didn't y'all? - It's a black queer podcast. We do good benefits. We pay well. Trump going to shut all that shit down, okay? Nope. Show no! Show no! As soon as they find out y'all been getting some subsidies because of y'all sexuality? Now, you know what? Whoa! If you're getting subsidies sexually, you're going to have to prove it once a year. That's right. Yo, we're not going to let everybody just claim gay unless we got some receipts. We need a safe dick on the tongue. We need a subsidy every four months. It's a subsidy to prove that these LGBTQ subsidies you're receiving are accurate. Once a quarter, dick on tongue. Not from Weezy either, Alec. You. No, you. You. Dick on tongue. I'll let all my employees know about that. Yo, speak into the mic, yo. What? 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No, it's truly. I had to go get a drink. I'm like, I got to go pour me some wine. Yeah, we got to relax, man. Me and the wife went to a whole bottle of wine, bro. That shit was crazy. And the wild part is, it's a bunch of stuff I've heard before. But when you see it all packaged together. And you see it on video. Oh, God. The old footage is just, man. This isn't the first one, though. What's that? This isn't the first doc of the day, though. Nah, but. This has been the most elation. This one was tough. This was the best. Bro, they give you reminders after every accusation. That's how you know that legal was involved. Yes. Because somebody will say some shit, and it will immediately go, we reached out to the Combs family for comment, and they did not respond. And the worst thing about being somebody. Somebody like Diddy. There's no benefit of the doubt anyway. Because it ain't about the stuff that they're saying he did. It's the stuff we know. Yeah. So when you see the things you know. Yeah. You don't put nothing past it. Nope. It's like, God. No. Damn. Yeah. That was phenomenal. Listen, man. It's crazy. It happened. I watched that doc on Friday night. And. It was a good reminder of just life. Bro, don't ever. I don't think you can get that power hungry, though. I think that's got to be in you already. Yeah. I think it's like a gene. That's the line dormant. And when you add the right things to that gene, it comes out. I don't think people. People aren't naturally like that. Like money, power don't naturally just make you like that. Because then you have other people, right? Like you can have somebody like. I'm going to use an attainance. You can have somebody like an over. Winfrey, who you've seen throughout her life with that power in that money, do amazing things, not just for the people she put on. Right. But like just people building schools and donating money and stuff like that. So that already has to be in you to be whatever that shit is. It is. I don't even know what you call that. Is that evil? I don't even know what you call it. Yeah. Maniacal. I mean, man. Yeah. Bottomless pit. And the only thing that can fill it is a thirst for more power. And that's the problem. It's like if power is your goal or money is your goal, you're in a really difficult position because there will always be somebody more wealthy and there will always be somebody more powerful. So you never stop pushing. If you're fortunate enough where like art is your goal, like you have a skill, you know, be it like radio, be a comedy, be it whatever the thing that you really care about. Be it, you know, you're a UFC fighter or whatever. You just dedicate yourself to that craft and being better at the craft is this thing that validates you. But if the only thing that validates you is more money or more power, you're going to be capable of some horrendous shit. I think power even more than money. Without a doubt. Because there's plenty. Diddy, like, let's be clear. Diddy is nowhere near one of the richest people in the world. So we know that there's plenty of people out here that have billions and billions and billions of dollars. You don't hear this type of shit that they were on. This was a power trip for Diddy. Like, I'm talking about an ego power trip. A 35, 40-year ego power trip. And it never ended. Even when you're watching him leading up to jail. You could tell it about the girl. He's still on the phone trying to manipulate people. Yeah, but especially with the girls. Like, wanting to fuck someone's girl. That is wild. Yo, let's talk about that. But that's specifically a power move. That is, how can I exert power? That's, like, the most primal version of it. How can I exert power over another individual? God bless the day. Kim Porter was Albie Shore. Kim Porter was girlfriend. Another one of his. Missy. Another one of his baby mommas. Missy or whatever. Sarah was Tupac's girlfriend. What about the one that was Eric Sermon? Eric's. Eric's the one on Breakfast Club this week. Eric told the most ridiculous story on that show. Is he a little off? I don't know if he's off, but that was a ridiculous story. Which one? When he said he pulls up in the car. He got Missy in the passenger seat. Diddy taps on the window. He rolls it down. Diddy swings on him. He laughs because he knows Diddy can fuck him up. So he tells him, I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. So he tells Diddy, all right, let's go around the corner. So he gives him a ride. You Ubering him to fight. You give him a ride in your car. You go around the corner. When y'all get around the corner, he says, yo, listen to this. And y'all just start listening to music together. That was a ridiculous story. That was. I'm surprised they put it in the doc. That was ridiculous. I can't even believe you repeat that. That don't sound ridiculous. Yo, shout out Eric, man. I love Eric, man. It made no sense whatsoever. I'm curious. How accurate do you think this doc was, like percentage-wise, of telling the story? You have to guess. I really don't know. 100%. Because the reason why I question, I'm like, they used so much footage that Diddy shot himself to make him look bad. And so that's how the power of a doc. You can use the same footage and make somebody seem horrible, and he would have used that footage to make himself look. Yo, that footage he was taking before he went to jail, I don't know why would he even tape that. There's no way any of that makes you look good. I actually. He thought he was gonna win. This was gonna be his redemption story. And then in the edit, you can put what you choose to put. So show you manipulating the video. No, no, no, no. He wouldn't have put that. I have a take on that. So the beginning sequence, when you're seeing this footage, when he's talking to the lawyer, right? And we need to know how to manipulate the public or whatever that is, right? I do agree with you. I think he's going into the trial going like, they don't really have much. I'm gonna win. And if you look at what we thought was gonna happen to him and what ended up happening to him, I mean, how many years did he get? Four years or something like that? 50 months. Okay. So it's like, how many months? 50. Oh, 50 months. Okay. So it's like basically four years of time served, right? And you end up doing like two thirds of that. So let's say he does like three years or even a little bit less. Like two. Okay. So it's really not that much time for how heinous the crimes we thought it was gonna be. So I imagine him and his legal team are going into this and they're going, yeah, I think we can beat this thing, right? But what did he, to his credit, is understanding that who he is as a person is ruined. And he says something earlier where he goes, listen, I want to have my life. I want to be able to do things. What he means is not, I want to stay out. I want to go to jail. What he means is I don't want to be, but I want to still be Diddy. And then what he's saying is, Hey, you guys are going on CNN. He goes, people aren't on CNN no more. They're on Tik TOK. They're on social media. You guys have to fight the propaganda war on these places. So I don't think what he's saying is, yo, you got to lie to everybody and make them think I'm innocent. When we know I'm guilty. I think he's coming from the place that he would lie. Well, let me get it all out. I think he's coming from the place of, or maybe believing his lawyers and going, yo, we're going to beat this shit, but it's not worth beating it. If everybody still thinks I'm the worst person ever and I can't be Diddy no more. So you guys got to start pushing whatever propaganda you can or start making these arguments, not on CNN where nobody sees it, but on social media. So could people could realize I'm a good guy and I'm innocent. But they saw it on CNN because the Kathy video broke on CNN. Fair, fair. But I don't think that's what he was talking about. I think he's talking about his innocence. But the reason I think that he was just willing to lie and continue to manipulate because he was lying and manipulating until the, until the, Cassie video came out. Like he was telling us all of this stuff cassie said he did was not true it was false it was fabricated then the video a guy like him is used to lying and manipulating but you got to be a madman to know that these videos this is what i'm saying yeah to know that a video exists yeah of you doing what you did to cassie in the hotel and putting out statements saying what she's saying is completely you don't think that's getting out but that's just but that just shows who you type of person you are but think about you know how many shit he got away with like oh my god she creates so many things yeah so he not only beats so many things i think we got to really look at this and and the doc said this really well if you wanted to be a hip-hop artist that had access to mainstream success there were two doorways there was andre harrell and uptown records and there was russell and that was the way to get money in hip-hop can you imagine nrb nrb can you imagine the power imagine the treatment from not only the community but the artists that want to be part of it and and on top of that he was the brainchild for a lot of these artists it's not like now where an artist can pop off on tiktok and then these record companies try to scoop them up and they just let that artist do their thing you had to build them he's picking their outfits telling them what to say what to so in his mind and you even say them talk see them talking on the and i forget one of his buddies was saying it was like andre told him is like it's all you it's not about the artist you're the one that has to nurture the curate so in his mind he's like they're just tools pawns you come to me i make you a star everybody else is thinking oh my god he's the star maker you're not getting treated like a normal person and you can get away with whatever the fuck you want to get away with because those people know there's only two ways to make it that's i'm telling once again i think that's something that's in you like it's some type of agree i'm not just i'm not disagreeing with you because i've seen people have that kind of power and that kind of influence and be good people and be good people like like that's why i hate when people say like just that's how you got to make it in the industry no that's what he chose to do you know what i mean oh 100 there's no excuses for the behavior i'm just trying to say like how if you already have that disposition and then you have all these positive feedback loops for that disposition you're gonna start to believe your own power yeah you're gonna start to believe that you're invincible and that is dangerous yeah and the fucking like i agree with you the fucking little girl thing is so weird bro but there are dudes that do that yeah because i think that they really want to suck the cock of the of the that the girl is with i really believe that yo this hip-hop heads have done that that's weird old shit to me it's just like yo you it is weird everybody's girl because you're not i mean even because you're not trying to fuck her you're trying to fuck him not literally but emotionally you're trying to let that guy know yo like i can take what's yours and then then when that guy makes a whole fucking documentary about you that ruins your fucking life because i'm gonna tell you something everybody keeps talking about the limited amount of time that diddy got right it's like oh he got 50 months it ain't about the time he'll never yeah his life is over diddy again yeah and he told y'all in the doc that's what drives him being that character being that person is what drives him that's what he cares about that more than he cared about his own fucking freedom he wasn't on there saying man how do i keep out stay out of jail how does it's gonna cost me money he's like we're losing you know i want to still be able to be me like huh yo there's a part i think it's episode three or four he's talking to his kids and he's like god told me to be quiet but that don't mean y'all can't talk that don't mean y'all can't talk what y'all gonna say he's so worried about other people coming to his defense and being ready to lie for him he wouldn't give that girl five thousand dollars great but then wanted that girl to come to his defense great had the nerve to tell that young lady what was her name kalina from dirty money yeah i had the nerve to tell that young lady i know you would jump in the casket for me but when this woman was fucked up financially reached out to him for five thousand dollars he wouldn't give it to her and then she's still back man get the fuck i heard i heard a good diddy story get one because we ain't heard one in years no no not a good diddy story like just a did that confirm some of this kind of shit it just it's a little but uh i'm trying to like withhold certain information anyway so a guy goes to meet him uh for a lunch it was about like a uh i don't know if it was a brand or something like that and he's like i don't know if it was a brand or something he was building goes sits down at this nice restaurant and uh waiter comes over he orders like a salad and did he goes yo yo yo cut that shit out you would diddy right now you order whatever the fuck you want they start eating steak uh lobster like caviar chef chris dow's coming all the things uh finished the meal it was great hanging with you man and um i really appreciate you i'll talk to you soon and did he just walks out on the bill twelve thousand dollars yeah no reason to not believe but that's the type of shit that's a straight power move i'm gonna walk out on this bill and what are you gonna do about it you need me you're gonna eat that i don't need you that well that's a good segue into little rod i don't feel like any man right that can say things like oh diddy you know i woke up with little rod said sometimes i would wake up and it'd be girl sometimes i wake up it was diddy what what episode is this then but little rod wanted to get paid i feel like somebody like rod would have been down for whatever as long as he would have got his money you understand what i'm saying like i feel like if he'd have got paid he'd have been down for whatever yeah because you ain't sticking around for that type of shit you know what i mean like you're not sticking how you gonna say you got sexually assaulted by diddy but you stuck around as a man but i think he thinks hey this is a man this is my big break and that's what a lot of these dudes would take advantage of the people it's like they want the big break so so what are you really mad about this are you mad things didn't go your way yeah he didn't get his big break i think i'll be a lot more mad if i woke up with a cock in my face i i'm sure you would but i'm just saying this guy okay can i can i say actually no you go taylor okay oh i was gonna ask this about farnsworth bentley do you think he's like protected he's the one that's like fishing and all this stuff huh no he's not in it talking to them why why isn't farnsworth because he's guilty too you think i think there's a lot of people why are we just putting stuff off on no no no not guilty i'm asking like we haven't heard from him i wonder why no no i'm not let me take that back there's a lot of people in diddy life we haven't heard from but we've seen him like with diddy a lot not really if you were privy to all the shit and you saw all the shit it you can't exactly come out now and be like oh my god i'm not gonna do that i'm not gonna do that i'm not gonna do that like yo it was really bad because there might be versions where you participated in the shit yeah and to the to the gay that's what i'm saying about the little rods and those guys so so or even kirk burroughs and those guys like that to to the gay rumors is what's really interesting and i think this happens to some people people always go oh hollywood when people get into hollywood they start doing gay shit whatever no no i think if you have a maniacal drive for power you exert that power in any way you can and i think sex also because of that you're not going to be able to become something of power you saw it in the documentary where he wants to fuck other people's girls not because they're fine there's plenty of girls that are fine he wants to fuck them because it's a way of utilizing his power and showcasing his power over another individual if your lust is for power not even for pussy it don't matter if it's pussy or butthole at the end of the day because the thing that you're trying to satisfy the itch you're trying to scratch is exerting that power over another individual dominance dominance and that's why he could if he was allegedly fucking these dudes that's what that shit was about i bet i could fuck that i bet i could make that guy suck my dick i bet i could make this girl fuck another dude if i say so i bet i could make that dude fuck another dude and i watch and it's nothing you you stop being a sexual being in terms of procreation sex is just another function of this lust for power oof scary it is scary man and i'm telling i think that's just something that's in people bro like yeah like i don't think you just and unfortunately wake up one day with money and power like i'm just gonna be like this like that shit turned you into something that was already there that was interesting about it though it tried i thought tried to get to the root of where that i i yeah from but i think unfortunately the things that those i think why you see these people in positions of power and success is because those primal instincts that they have actually give them a competitive advantage in the space you and i don't want to hurt people we care about people at the end of the day so we're not going to do certain things that would be shameless that would really negatively impact people if you have that maniacal drive you just destroy everything your way on your way to achieving your dreams they have a way greater competitive advantage over me and you sure yeah and now at the end of the day they go to jail and hopefully rot in prison for what they've done but like in terms of a one-on-one competition if you're willing to just kill everybody around you that's a big competitive edge i agree and i also i also wanted to to go back to what you said about the you know people who were around and saw these things it's just like yo are you really having these conversations now because you truly care right you want these things to stop hard because life really didn't turn out the way you want it now that you know nebo that got knocked out by craig you coming to snatch your chain back you know what i'm saying i don't i don't i don't i personally it's like i'm like i don't know if i want to hear from you bro which one is your one is that all of them yeah every single person that's literally on except for the women the women i understand if you're victims yeah but the kirk burroughs and why not him like that was the one he He was the co-founder, right? Yes. Yeah, like, I think he's a good person to hear from because it's like, he was really just the business and the brains behind it. Yeah, but he said that he sexually assaulted him, bro. I mean, but he called him out and tried a while ago but lost his case. He ain't saying I'm not no sexual assault. I don't know if he mentioned that during it, but. Well, he probably didn't want to bring that up. Yeah, like. I think the movie's like a good cautionary tale, especially if you're in the industry. For ego. Well, you see all this energy, and sometimes there's like a temptation just to go with the flow for people. Like, well, no one else is saying anything and it seems to be working. Why should I say something? And now, when you look at this with the perspective of time, you know, you would have wanted to be someone if you had been there who kind of separated and removed yourself from that situation. The shit's always going to come out, so remove yourself from that stuff. It's hard when there's money and access. I mean. And blow the card or two, Chris. Like, I don't feel like you should just walk away knowing that it's a bunch of. Knowing that it's a bunch of bulls. But you remember how powerful. I'll put it like this. Can you guys speak to that time period? Yeah, yeah. I think that like a lot of the. I was there. Okay, well, speak. Can you just speak? Because I think a lot of people now. He's so much bigger than anybody right now. But specifically speak to like the gatekeeping and the power structures. Because right now, kids just go, I'll blow up on TikTok and then I'll get a record deal. And if I don't, I'll just sell out my own shows. Speak to what that time period was with music and who were the power players and what that power actually meant. He had an incredible hold over the industry because he somehow managed to kind of straddle being both street hip-hop and R&B, but also incredibly pop. This is especially after Biggie died, right? Oh, yeah. He became a commercial success pop after that. I remember being in a club somewhere downtown and I saw Sadat X from Brand Nubian, who was like one of my favorite MCs. I was like, I can't believe I'm in the same place as Sadat X. Diddy came into the club. When I say that literally. If there were 500 people there, he just walked through the door. The entire club kind of like got up and just like. Moved with him. Moved towards him, at him. He couldn't even get in. And I looked and like literally the only two people who hadn't moved were me and Sadat X. And I was like, damn, this is the guy that people should be giving all this energy to. And Diddy just like. He was bigger than the artist, bro. That's the thing you don't realize. So much bigger. So much bigger. And he just really like dominated the space. And he felt like. Why didn't Russell get that kind of energy? I don't think Russell wanted that sort of energy. He didn't have. They weren't all in the videos. And I can understand. Russell didn't have the charisma. Yeah. He also didn't put himself out there like that. Well, Russell. 100 tried. 100 was a rapper. Got with the Dead, Jekyll and Hyde. That's not true. Russell did try. He did? His Def Comedy Jam, he came out at the end of every single thing. That's fair. It was Russell Simmons Presents Def Comedy Jam. Thank you. Good night. He gave a thank you. Good night. But he had a little bit of a lisp. He wasn't a great speaker. He didn't have the charisma. But neither was Diddy. I mean, Diddy just kind of forced his way through a little bit of charisma. Diddy was charisma. Diddy created a character. Inside, yes. But inside the actor's studio, that little moment where he's in that space and his mom is there. Like, there's a perfect example. He knows the space he's in. He knows this is not traditional hip-hop space at all. This is a stuffy-ass white space. And he is crushing that shit. He's teasing little stuff with his mom. His mom is hilarious. There's these little back and forth. He's milking this thing. And unbelievable, level of comfort in a space that a guy, yes, he went to Catholic school and that kind of stuff, but a space that you would assume he might not be completely comfortable with. He also was an incredible character. I mean, if you had to name the top five hip-hop characters of all time. Oh, he's up there. Yeah, it's like Diddy, Snoop. I'd put Lil Jon up there, right? And even though he wasn't a character, but I'm just talking about Tupac. And what I mean, I'm talking about aesthetic, meaning people, folks can spoof. Yeah. Like Diddy's easily spoofable. He thinks of himself as a character. That's why I thought, hey, I'm going to change my name now and become a new person. He would change his name and he's, oh, I'm loved now. So now I'm going to act completely different. Because he is pretending at the end of the day. He's a kid who grew up in the suburbs. Like, yeah, his dad was a hustler or whatever like that. But like, he's emulating that hustler lifestyle. And a lot of times, if you grow up outside of something, you become the greatest observer of it. So you have to almost be a character to survive within it. The people who grew up in it aren't characters because it's who they are. You don't have to be a Geechee dude from Moncks Corner, South Carolina or wherever the fuck. Right? Like you, I'm talking to you. It's like, because it is who you are. You don't have to think about it every single day. He has to, I'm from the suburbs. I got to make sure these people in Harlem respect me. I have to go out of my way. That part was so crazy when he went walking. You didn't see that part. No, what is this? Bro, he goes, walking through Harlem. He's shaking hands and hugging people. Then he gets back in the car and he's like, I got to go take a shower. I need some hand sanitizer. He was like, yo, I've been hugging these people. I got to go wash in boiling water. Like, God damn, bro. That's ugly. Like, yo, that's wild to me. Like, first of all, I don't know when the last time he's done stuff like that. I'm not going to sit here and act like I do. I don't know if he pops up in Harlem on the regular. But to be going through what you're going through and then to just go out there and let me go shake these hands and kiss these babies and try to, I need my people to have my back type shit. But it's all for show only for you to get back in the car and be like, I need to go wash in boiling water. Bro. I didn't know he was from this suburb. Why did everyone say he's from Harlem? I don't know. I mean, Mount Vernon is not like Scarsdale. Right. But it's not. I don't know. Nothing about Mount Vernon. I mean, it's. But Mount Vernon. It has a tough part. There's parts of Mount Vernon that are tough. Yeah. But it is the first suburb outside of the Bronx. So it's the first part of Westchester. If you're in the Bronx and you're trying to like step it up five, 20 degrees, Mount Vernon's the next stop. Yeah. People always say he's from Harlem though. Well. Let me ask y'all a question. Yeah. If you woke up, you was in the studio with Diddy and you woke up with Diddy in the bed with you and your butt was sore. Mm-hmm. Would you want to work with any other record executives ever again? Ever again. Any moguls? Moguls ever again. Would you want to be around Diddy? I can't make music with men no more, bro. I can't make music with men. I cannot make music with men. I can only make music with women. That's all I'm saying, right? He could blackball you, though. Well, it's not just blackball. He's an incredible dream seller. I had one professional interaction with him once. And, you know, it was like a radio thing. I did some sort of live event with him. And afterwards, he like, like, Chris, you're incredible. Me and you are going to go to the moon together. We're going to go so far doing this shit together. I can't, you know, like he spent 45 seconds gassing me up. I was like, oh, shit. This guy really wants to work with me. But we're going to call you soon. We're going to, you know, never heard from the guy again. Right? Like it was, oh, but like, that's just a very small thing. Like if he wants you to believe. Steve Jobs had that, too. You get people involved in like, there's a term for it. I forget the name, but it's like the dream cycle. And everybody gets on your page and invests in this dream that you're creating and that becomes their reality. Right. And you need that to motivate big groups. And you're like, man, this dude who has all this other things going on, he's looking at me for 30 seconds. Now, if you're a guy like Lil Rod and he's, you heard him, he's calling his phone, he's leaving him messages. No matter what happens for some people who are like very desperate to kind of have that access and have that opportunity, you don't know what some people are going to put up with because they're so afraid to lose that opportunity. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Well, I'm going to tell you something, a lesson that I've learned. Never compromise yourself for a position. Right. You can't do it. It's not worth it. Because at the end of the day, you're going to end up just like Kirk Burroughs. You're going to end up just like Lil Rod sitting on somebody's documentary angry and upset because of choices that you made. Because it is choices that they made. Yeah, but now you're kind of blaming the guy. No, I'm not. They made choices. No, I don't think he made a choice. Yo, come on. We can't take away, listen, you can't take away accountability from all of these people but was cool with it when it was benefiting them. I think you can say this guy has a very well-documented track record of ripping off artists and not paying people. Okay, well, Chris, keep that same energy. If and if, right, Trump gets out of office and they try to round up everybody around him, everybody in his administration that was complicit, keep that same energy and be like, well, it wasn't their fault. The guy was very charming and he had a lot of power and this and that. No, no, no. Those guys shouldn't be arrested. No, no, no, no, no. I don't know if that's a one-to-one comparison. What do you mean? You're either complicit or you're not. Listen, I tend to agree with Sharla, which is like, not, you can be a victim and be complicit. So like, so like, Diddy can do something horrible to you that you shouldn't have experienced but you can aid and abet him in doing horrible things to other people which you shouldn't do and just because you're a victim doesn't make it okay that you've hurt other people. And also, we always sit back and we watch people and we be like, yo, just watch how somebody treats people because eventually it's going to be your turn. Yup. You're not an exception to the rule. Yup. Okay, that I get. Maybe those guys like Kirk and Lil Rod thought they were exceptions to the rules. No. No. So your point is like, where were you when this was happening to Cassie? Yeah. You had all this access to his lifestyle. You didn't speak out about what was happening to other people. Maybe that's why Farnsworth is not talking because he knows. Right. And again, I don't know. I don't know, but it makes you look like a hero now to be like, oh, you know, he didn't pay for Biggie's funeral. But you knew that back then. now what i would say is better to talk better to talk like better to talk at some point in time people were terrified of him man yeah yeah now they feel i pitched a project like this even 10 years ago let's say to somebody powerful in the industry very powerful well-connected person he said it was as a podcast but he said that's the best podcast i've ever heard of in my life that would be incredible that would set the charts on fire i am not going to be the one picking up the phone monday morning when did he calls and no one else is either no one is touching this thing people were scared of him because he had a lot of power and you can see he goes for vengeance so it's all your fault no i tried to make it but i'm saying i couldn't get anybody to back me up so it's all these people's fault this is the monster that they created and kept defeating yes you can't put it on them how if you know this i'm doing all the action but if you know yes but if you know this stuff is happening and nobody says anything how will it ever stop yeah but if you're afraid of what's going to happen if you speak up like what if you're the only one who speaks up and you know the power that diddy has like he's still complicit yeah but he's blew up kid cudi's car allegedly like if he goes to those lengths of things yes and it's like why would you put your life so you're proving my point you're choosing your own state of mind and your own security over everybody else's so don't try to come out and act like you're doing it for the people in that all right maybe you're not so many people have been hurt how about this how about this easier to do it now that he's but if nobody but if nobody comes out then he gets away with it so it's like ultimate it coming out doesn't make you a hero but it does make you better than staying silent so we have to reward years later yo it's better than staying silent because this guy would have had a comeback he would have would have had a comeback if this didn't come out he would have really come back he would have come back if this didn't come out reinvented himself as a preacher he would maga what what have it did he would have been back no he's that relentless right and he needs it that bad like the greatest punishment that you could ever give diddy take him out the gate is not allow him to ever be diddy again and then he got to live with himself you think i i think he wouldn't have been diddy again before this doc i think the doctors put the dildo through the heart there were people that feel that's funny that's funny no i'm i'm serious i really believe i i think he was done before this no there were people who looked at the uh case and they're like oh shit he got off but there's still people like this people like that right now still defending diddy even with this doc and think that is this a whole bunch of property it's gonna be much less after this much less all i'm saying is listen i'm glad things have come to an end i hope but i'm not giving you know these these guys too much here's a question here's a question i have for all for all you guys look a little rob has still been there right now he got his money no no no i'm not saying these guys are they're not heroes but doing this thing is the right thing to do even if it's 30 years later it doesn't make you a good person but it makes you better than staying silent and allowing all these people to be victimized in perpetuity and i'm not saying you should still stay when i said in perpetuity they wouldn't have there's a lot of people that probably wouldn't have gotten victimized if you just spoke up 10 years that's why i'm saying that that's that's all i'm both both those things can be true both those things can be true did he could have went out of after them took him out and he would have kept on as long like that's a thing like it's a huge risk and i understand what you're saying hey take that risk to protect others but that's putting your life up because chris you know everybody's built like that when he attacks steve stout steve stout was saying this guy is a terrible person everybody's scared of him because of all of the stuff he does behind he was saying this so that's an alley-oop like you know what then he settled and then he settled and then he's shaking hands and laughing but i still threw it out there somebody else did yet you're saying what people should do but people are motivated by their own salvation and if they don't see their salvation through that then they oftentimes won't do it and that's just the reality of the matter it's better that they do it 30 years in then never do it at all but the heroic thing is to do it in the moment i would think so because then you stop other people from being let's talk to some of the people i'm again i'm only an episode in but like are there any people in the doc that came out immediately yeah oh well the guy kirk filed a lawsuit that was to get his money back aubrey did back and she did aubrey has been doing it yeah she told a story that ain't nobody talking about what's up yeah somebody came to her and said i saw a video where puff was fucking you and some other dude had his dick in your mouth and i was like i don't remember none of this shit yeah you drunk you know what i'm saying i don't fucking know i don't know all i know is this is a great documentary that just lets you know man do not compromise yourself for a position that's how i feel i mean and that's that's how i feel about the ride but on the ditty side there's no way power and ego should drive you in that way but you know what's interesting though you had everything but you had the opportunity to treat people were great you could have given more jobs you could provide jobs you provide make people dreams come true you're right all this but you had everything right and you just wanted to fuck it off by fucking people over but you know what i'm saying i don't think that's a good thing you know what's what's interesting is that like his desire for power right made him gravitate towards a role in the industry is different than most people remember he came in going i'm going to be a dancer i'm going to be in the videos and he learned pretty quickly that the real power is in the executive branch not in the artist most people don't discern that most people see the artist getting all the love in the streets and everybody's singing the songs whatever he also recognized throwing the parties is where the culture and the power was that's because he was around andre andre was the original lifestyle specialist with uptown records interesting and he was the original executive but i even found that fascinating where it's like he's being like not groomed but like mentored by andre and then he's right there in front of him being like oh yeah you're going to pass it down to me like i'm going to take this over from you like imagine speaking to your guy like you're still young in the game and you're talking to your elder praise i'm about to take this over from you there's two ways to look at that um clearly andre being the visionary that he was and the eye for talent saw talent and him saw talent and diddy because he wouldn't just have some his arm around somebody that he didn't think could be that so you are kind of grooming that individual you know to be your successor yeah so i don't i don't think there's anything wrong with that i think you should play your position of your diddy and not tell him what you want yeah i know you know i mean let him say let it be his idea like hey i'm grooming this right you know what is that uh one of the 48 laws of power never outside the master there you go law number one let's all pay some bills man let's pay some bills what we got the lemonati has spent decades keeping lemon on top and lime in the shadows their lemon agenda has infiltrated everything even our music that hit song named after the color of lemons not 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You know Trump going to let his boy get it. Well, are they both his boys? I don't know. It don't seem like he's got a relationship with Netflix. Yeah, Sarandos or Netflix. My understanding was Sarandos was like talking to him specifically about it. You got to. You ain't got no choice. This is the tricky thing about this, right? Because if this goes through with Netflix, it's probably, I mean, theaters are already dead. Theatrical releases are already dead, in my opinion. But, you know, like the only way those win is if you have massive existing IP that people have like nostalgic connections to, i.e. like Top Gun, Dune, the Minecraft movie. You know, like these things that like people who had a culture of going to movies their entire life, like we did, will go, okay, I want to see this in this place that I'm used to going. I don't think the younger generation is really going to see movies anymore. Yeah, there's a few like horror movies that will work. But like the days of making a $300 million movie and then like the whole world going to the movie theater are dead. But this is the nail in the coffin. Give me a reason to go to the movies, I'll go to them. Give me an event or give me something I need to go see, I'm going. Why? For all the reasons the show just said. The nostalgia of it all. There's nothing better for my mental and emotional well-being than walking into a movie theater, ordering a large tub of popcorn, some peanut M&Ms, and a bottle of water, and going to sit in the movies. I realize I don't even got to watch the movie. You know what made me feel like that? Being a father. Because I don't care about Wicked and all of those stuff that they go see, but I just like sitting in the theater. I'm talking about, it's like being on the plane. You talking about a good sleep? Yeah. Take me to see a good kids movie. Yeah, yeah. Take me to see anything that's targeting children. My kids will be in there having a good time. Daddy is out. Okay? Out. Yeah. So give me the movie going experience. Now, I am going back. They're putting out Avengers Endgame. Yes. With a new post-credits scene, because Avengers Endgame is supposed to be a direct sequel to the new Doomsday. Oh, really? I'm going to see that. Wait, wait. What do you mean they're putting out Avengers Endgame? The one we've already seen? They're putting Avengers Endgame back in theaters, I think like a week or two before Doomsday, and it's got a post-credits, because Endgame didn't have a post-credits scene. Yeah. So it's going to have a post-credits scene that leads into Doomsday. I got to see it. I got to see it. I got to see it. Then you got to see Infinity War, too. They got to put both. I love Avengers Endgame. Man, it's so good. I love that movie, man. It is so good. There's only one corny moment in Endgame, bro. When all the girls come out. When all the girls, right. And it has nothing to do with sexism. It just has to do with Marvel didn't develop none of their women characters well enough. But also, why would the girls come out together? Like, once you all got superpowers, you're no longer a girl. Captain Marvel didn't even need all of them. Yeah. Captain Marvel could have ran through that whole shit by herself. It's like, yeah, we got her back. You don't even have no powers. Yeah. Like, sit down. You got a gun. Yeah. Like, cut it out. But, yes, I will be there. But, yo, give me an experience, and I'm going to watch. I like the movie-going experience. Yeah. I don't think that we should give up on that. I don't think, I think you're only going to, Hollywood is only going to get the investment from these things that they put into it. Right. So, if they just, you know, succumb to all of the streaming platforms, then that's what it is. But if you give me reasons to go to the movies, I'm there. I'm there. But there's just few reasons. There's just fewer reasons these days, man. I think we just need to accept that. Like, the biggest issue, I think, is it's more enjoyable to watch a movie at the crib than it is in the movie theater. Is it, though? I think. Like, unless you see an avatar, if I'm just seeing a random rom-com, do I really need to go to the movie theater to do that? Sit in some seat that got bed bugs? It depends. Or should I just sit on my sofa and watch it and pause it when I want to pause it, look at my phone if I want to look at my phone, eat whatever snacks that I want to eat? Yeah, but did you go to the movies to watch rom-coms when you were younger? Hell yeah. We watched every single Adam Sandler movie in the movie theaters. Sweet Home Alabama, Brown Sugar. We watched all these movies we watched. The Wood is not a movie. Every movie I ever saw, I saw it in the theaters first, for the most part. Hell fucking yes. But Netflix says they're not going to stop releasing movies. They just said they're going to close the window. So they're going to be short of theatrical windows. The problem with the movies right now is that the theatrical window is so short and the gap between theater and streaming is so short, there's no urgency to go see the movie in the theaters. Like, I know it's going to be on HBO Max, or I know it's going to be on Netflix, or I know it's going to be on Paramount in a week or two anyway. Fuck it. I won't go and sit in a shitty seat where I'm looking up from the front row. Oh, no, I hate that. See, I'm a real movie goer. I order my tickets online, preferably Fandango, and I'm all the way in the back, right? Because I want the best view, and I got to see where the fucking shooter is, just in case somebody decides they want to motherfucking get sporty in this bitch. I'm like all the way in the back. I like being all the way in the back, top, back row. But that's the game right now. It's like, back in the day, you were willing to sit front row if it was the new release that you needed to. Nah, I wouldn't. What madman does that? Y'all are renting it out, though? What's that? The movie. Huh? What are you talking about? Like, Wicked was, you could rent it on. What kind of money do you think we getting, Taylor? Yeah, Taylor, Taylor. That's not good courage. Oh, because y'all. Okay. I was making sure y'all just. Oh, she said y'all broke. Do you guys feel the same? No. No. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, like, when the movie comes out like Wicked, it was also on streaming platforms, too. Y'all was. It was? Yeah. At least, that's what I saw. I saw you could rent it. No, not the new one. Yeah, not the new one. The old one, maybe. Not the new one. The new one, you had to go see it in theaters. Well. Do you guys feel the same way about all live events or just. I mean, not that a movie's a live event. Let's say in-person events. It depends. I'm not gonna front. I have not adjusted really after COVID, though. I'm not gonna lie. No, I still have not adjusted. And I'm a cancer, so I never really like being around people that I don't really fuck with anyway. But after COVID, I really never truly adjusted to being back out around people. Like, no, I don't like people, and I get exhausted quick, fast, in a hurry. Yeah. To Erykah Badu? No. Really? And I wanted to. I went Saturday. I heard the show was phenomenal. Yeah. It was phenomenal, but there was also a minute where I was like, I just want to sit down. Everybody's standing up. You know, she had a screen available. You could have bought a screen. You could have bought a screen and watched it. I'm glad I did it, but I was kind of like, I'm tired. Listen, I love Erykah. Erykah Badu and Jill Scott are my wife's favorite artists, but we had some family come into town this weekend because my wife had something to do, so we ended up not being able to go last minute. But I was kind of happy. That's what I mean. I had been outside a little bit too much the past week. I did John Hope Bryant's event, then we did the New York Times thing, then I was in Charleston and my girl Chris Keller thing. I did a little bit too much peopling. Yeah. You need a little rest. You need a little break. Yeah. I was supposed to do something this weekend. I'm like. What'd you say? No. Really? I got supposed to do something this weekend and next weekend. I was like, eh. I'll tell you after what it was after, but I'm like, eh. I don't want to do it. Not worth it. Other people probably would jump at the opportunity. Like that? I'm probably sure. You know? But for me, it's like, eh. Yeah, it's a lot. I'm cool. I'm cool. So to answer your question, Chris, it just depends what the event is. I feel like people are still excited for music concerts, but everything else is kind of dying down. I think it's a little different. I think even music, man. I think what happened is that people were locked in during COVID. They got really excited to go out. They went out to see everything. And they really celebrated being connected. And they also developed these deep connections to not only music, comedy, all these other things. And they were restricted from being able to access them. And then finally, when they were able to access them, they got out there and a lot of people put, you know, these events on credit cards. And, you know, the chickens are coming home to roost with that credit card debt. People are feeling stretched thin. I spend money on experiences. So to Alex's point, yes, my daughter likes concerts. So she always, if you want to go to concerts, cool. That means daddy got to get a suite then. Yeah. That's just the way it is. And I'm fine with that because then I can invite everybody. You don't like jam pop. That's right. You're not doing jam pop. I mean, Taylor, no. Like, I'll get a suite and everybody coming through. All of us coming through. Watch the show. We go home. You know, that's the type of stuff I'll spend money on. That's what, to me, that's what money is for. Money is to provide experiences for yourself and to provide experiences for others to where you have a sense of, I don't even want to call it security. Just comfortable. I want to be comfortable. I agree with you. I think musicians are doing a better job at making their show seem exciting to come to than movie studios are doing for movies. It's like, I'd be a young boy. His concerts are gone. He's going crazy. Drake still is selling crazy overseas and every place. Like, people are still excited to go to music. That was bringing up a good point because there's no virality with a movie. Yep. Because you can't screenshot it. You can't take a picture. It's very hard to create the FOMO. I was telling some people at Netflix this, actually. I said, guys, you have this thing where, like, so people don't screen record when you take a screenshot of your show, your, uh, of whatever show is on. You, you actually are limiting the amount of, like, memes and viral culture around your content. Let people screen record and put it out because that's what creates the FOMO. The FOMO is not, we have this antiquated view, look on, like, how to sell movies. We used to do this. We used to go, you get to be with Tom Cruise. You get to be with The Rock. You get to be with fucking Julia Roberts. Now, celebrities are so overexposed. They all got a pod. they all got Instagram, they all got everything. just selling two hours with them is not valuable to us you got to sell us the plot what's the plot of the movie who cares who's in it but then i don't want you to give it away from me on social media either don't give the whole thing away but give me enough of the plot i got back into stranger things i haven't watched stranger things in like four seasons and there was so much the whole fucking show pretty nice like i've never watched things okay i haven't watched it since like the first or second season but there was so many tiktoks made about the show itself and like the callbacks and all these other things i started to get some foam i was like oh let me get into another show that you have now unfortunately you got to give away a little bit of the show itself or the movie for us to be enticed to go see it i feel like that about the pennywise show oh the welcome to dairy yeah i want to see welcome to dairy just because i'm seeing so many people talking about you gotta see episode four i don't even know if that shit is real or not meaning i don't know if that's like bots all right if hbo's putting that shit out there because it's making me want to watch this shit right i've never watched this shit ever in my life game of thrones we knew it was people but i'm not on twitter like that exactly so when you were on twitter you see all these people talking about a particular show i don't know if that still works now i think i think when you see it on tiktok and it's not tweets you actually see individuals watching it individuals reacting to it it could be ai but like to me that motivates me because i'm like oh people are excited about this shit well it's i'm really curious to see how marty supreme does because they've done a really great job of building around timothy chalamet and he's done so much great promo work for the movie he understands what the fuck is that about exactly that's my concern my concern is are they selling the plot enough to get me to go invest time in the movie i love timmy chalamet i want to see what he's up to i love seeing him at the knicks games i love seeing him how he's doing his marketing thing but at the end of the day to get me to commit two hours to the movie i need to be interested in this movie and it's about a guy who wants to be a ping pong champion and i'm like i need a little bit more than that i'm good you know what i mean but tell me how they've done the best marketing job ever on this whole time i thought you would try to set us up for a joke i was like is that is this a real movie i'm not going to be about no ping pong well that's the problem you got to make people want to see it well i don't who gives a fuck about ping pong you care that it's one of the saddest movies safty brothers i i like both of the safties i think they do great work and to me that's enticing but you could look at the paul thomas anderson movie with leo that's going to lose 200 million dollars and be like why do you keep saying it because to me that was the death of movies no but that was the moment in history i saw a clip that you said that on the new york times thing i didn't know what but i saw it i went to go look it up it didn't lose 100 million dollars no it lost more no it didn't yeah the budget was like 175 150 and it made over 200 globally so the budget is 150 right so it had to break even i think they said they had to no no yeah i think they it was 140 150 was the budget the marketing budget was with it was like another 50 or 75 no more look it up you can look it up and it said that it made over 200 million dollars globally okay so when you make let's say you made a hundred let's say you made 150 million dollars in the u.s right does the movie studio get a hundred percent of the ticket sales at the movie theaters oh i don't know they get 50 so if you make 150 million dollars in america you get 75 million of that to you right so when a movie does 200 million obviously the studio don't get 200 million they get half of that when you put your movie in china you get 25 of what it does in china so yes what they do is they pre-sell they pre-sell distribution rights to different markets so that they have a little cushion right they'll be like here we got 30 million from italy and they're just going to distribute here in italy we got 10 million from the uk they're going to do it there and that's how you offset some of the cost but that movie will lose a significant amount of money he hasn't broke they're not i don't think they're i don't think they're going to break even but he didn't lose 200 is what i'm saying no because you also have to understand usually and this could be different but usually with an antiquated marketing system that they have for movies whatever they spend on the movie they spend in marketing so if you spend 150 on the movie you're spending 150 in marketing so now you're 300 in the hole in order to make 300 back you got to make 600 in america right that much yeah because you only get in 50 percent oh i didn't know that now granted they're going to sell streaming rights they're going to sell it to delta it's out now it's on streaming now that's why it's already streaming yeah it's already streaming what why would we even go see it okay so they said the film production budget was reported at 130 million box office grosses so far 70 million domestic so 35 million at home 132 million international for a worldwide total analysis estimated the film needs somewhere between 300 and 350 worldwide to break even once you account for production marketing and the fact that studios don't keep 100 percent of box office revenue some sources suggest a theatrical loss of roughly 100 million under current box office tally typical cost structure up up up more than that even with a strong global grossing for other things to make probably probably but to lose 100 doesn't matter you can't you can't lose 100 million dollars on leo it hasn't broke even with pete with paul thomas anderson you can't do it to me that was the death of me i'm not going to do it i'm not going to do it i'm not going to do it non-existing ip cinema that's the that's the death now if if this was a movie starring leonardo caprio and it was the new batman movie or if it was the new spider-man movie that's going to make money it's baked into our those are good examples too though because some of those have lost a lot of money well all about the captain marvels of the world all the new marvel that we don't give a fuck about isn't going to work it's got to be characters we care about do you think potentially you're just like prisoner of the moment because i feel like this always happens and then all of a sudden uh everything everything everywhere all at once pops up and then they're like oh movies are back i would say that that's the exception to the rule and i would say that that budget was so small that it could be profitable the problem with movies right now is that there costs so much to make that there's no way you can make that money back without a huge theatrical relief yeah man if you can get movies down to like 20 to 40 million dollar budgets you can make money but at that point 20 to 40 million just put it out on streaming because the streamers would love to spend only 20 to 40 million dollars they'll give you that it says you know like on a global scale the film industry is recovering they said they projected to reach 34 billion this year in 2025 it's over dogs it's over but you know over the you don't drew in his when he makes it like it's over my dude it happens so what so movies are about to have the best resurgence ever i don't think i don't i ain't gonna say i don't know we'll see i know one business that ain't over like a lot of people are saying podcasting god damn it well you know what the thing with podcasting is is that like podcasting isn't over podcasting is just the new way to say show there's nothing that isn't a podcast and there's nothing that is espn's entire fucking uh tv lineup is also available as a podcast as it should be digital show it just means show now well from the audio standpoint 600 million listeners right approaching 600 million listeners just audio hold up matter of fact let me let me why am i repeating this like i don't have the actual goddamn data right in front of me i'm surprised what are you surprised streamers haven't yet put their stream out as podcast i don't that's crazy to me i haven't i was telling that when academics was spotify i was telling him to do that i'm like all of those daily rants that you're doing on just put them out on your rss yeah i've been told okay podcast listening is growing rapidly more than 500 84 million people will listen to podcasts in 2025 with numbers expected to reach 619 million by 2026 engagement is high 34 of americans listen to an average of 8.3 podcast episodes per week and 83 spend more than nine hours listening weekly video is redefining the podcast landscape more than half of shows are now posting full video on youtube podcasting is a booming industry the market is projected to be worth 17.5 59 billion dollars by 2030 riverside makes podcasting easier it offers studio quality podcasting and podcasting is a booming industry podcasting is a booming industry recording ai powered editing and seamless content repurposing to help create a standout yeah i don't think podcasting goes anywhere because i think it just is the new way to say show absolutely just shows don't go anywhere what i think has now happened is we had this great moment right where traditional shows i.e uh sports center the view any of these shows that you're now available in versions of a podcast they had these cable contracts so they couldn't put their stuff online because the cable companies are saying to espn yo i'm paying you 15 a month for protection you can't put this content out for free if i'm paying you 15 a month so they had to honor those contracts for a few years what did we what were we able to do in that moment we were able to start these podcasts in this space that had no interruption whatsoever from legacy media that dumps tens and hundreds of millions of dollars of content and we were able to have a lick in that regard and we were able to have a generation of people that were able to have a early early we the grandfathers we really are the godfather chris morrow and loud sir hey uh brilliant idiots might literally be the first uh podcast that was put on youtube literally really no no we were about very no rogan was on you no but we were audio only but on youtube before anybody oh wow we just put the audio on youtube because i basically was like well all these remember there was a time when breakfast club wouldn't put the video on It would be on the.com, yeah, yeah, yeah,.com. - And then people were creating, essentially Charlemagne pages where they were ripping it and repurposing it. I was like, well, shit, if this audience is here, let's just put the fucking audio up. And then from that, we graduated to the video. But I mean, that was 15 years ago almost at this point. All that shit is AI anyway, bro. Any old audio you hear of me or Andrew. Yeah, it's just AI. Somebody's got to do something about that. Yeah, somebody's got to do something about it, man. That shit was crazy, yo. But it is an interesting moment now that like, so the space that you could argue there's way more people in it, way more money in it. It is thriving in the sense that that's what people listen and watch. It's thriving if you're doing something different. Yes, but everybody has a podcast. And what also happens, which I think will go away pretty quickly, we already noticed that, is like the celeb podcast lick. So every agent that has an actor or has something else was like, yo, you want to start a podcast? I'll get this deal from you from this new fledgling podcast company and they're going to cut you a big check. They do it for a year. Nobody listens. The company doesn't make their money back. They cut them. So I think all those are getting cut loose. And I think what will happen now is like, they've been cut loose. If people actually can curate an audience of people who fuck with you and listen to you, you'll stick around. You'll exist. You'll thrive. But the people who are just kind of like, I should do this because it's like a website. You know, like, I'm a comedian, so I should have a podcast. I'm not this, so I should have a podcast. That shit going away too. And you still have to treat the podcasting business like the podcasting business. I mean, let audio be your foundation. That's interesting. Start with audio, then put the video on top of that. I think a lot of people are doing it backwards. Therefore, you're not starting a podcast. You're doing a show. You're starting a video show. I have different thoughts about that, but I think that. I mean, I agree. A podcast is what you call a podcast. A podcast at this stage of the game, right? But when you're talking about monetizing it, yeah, the more video becomes prominent. The war is essentially almost over. The CPMs just keep going downhill because, you know, you want to charge, let's say, 25 was the gold standard for an audio mid-roll. Well, what's a video CPM? I don't even know. Two? You're saying, like, what YouTube pays. Right. And if I ever. I think the next step for the space is can you find a standardized metrics model, right? Because everybody. For everything across the board? Because everybody's, well, I got this on this, and I got this on this, and I got this on this. And when you really want to unlock the biggest dollars, which are traditionally going to, let's say, cable, or more, you know, traditional places, they have a standardized metrics. Right. We don't have a standardized. Well, they used to have the Nielsen ratings, right? And now they have just digital ratings. It's kind of hard to have a standardized metric, though, because you got somebody like Mel Robbins whose audio is through the roof, but her video may not be. And you have the rare exceptions, like a Rogan. And even with Rogan, though. And what do you do with the clip? What do you do with the reel? Most of the podcasts, like, all the NBA podcasts I consume, I listen to the reels. Yeah, it's like, they might not get huge views, but the reels might go super viral. But then if the sponsor's not attached to that. So then what you would want to do, at least, what I would imagine, like, is you would have an overall sponsor for the pod. Right. It's not. And then their they're baked into whatever the reel is. It's brought to you by Bud Light or whatever it is. And then when you clip that pod to the moon, every one of those little clips has sponsorship already there. That's what I feel like Netflix. I'm telling you, total impressions, right? Exactly. Yes. That's what I feel like Netflix should be doing. Like, instead of, um, you know, trying to fight against the virality. Indulge in it. Just brand it on everything. Yo, you put out these reels, these shorts, I want the Netflix logo in it for everybody that's going over there. That's the only way to work. Yeah, you beat it. But they only make money by subscriptions. And if you make it easier to pirate their content, then why would anybody subscribe? Because it's still just the shorts. It's just like YouTube. It's like saying, um. We can be on social media right now looking at clips or something, right? Like, right now, we did the New York Times thing. Yeah. People are seeing clips going around. They're like, where can I watch this whole thing? Yep. That's what makes them go to YouTube. Yeah, but the reason why you can't take a screenshot is so you can't screen record the whole movie. Oh! But I'm talking about. No, no, no. When I'm talking about. Let me take a step back. Yeah. When I'm talking about Netflix, I'm talking about the content that they're getting into now. By saying they want to take podcasts from Spotify. Oh, gotcha. And put them over there. So I'm talking about those. The Bill Simmons, the Ringers, and everybody in the world. People are already used to seeing clips of that and then going to find the whole episode. Exactly. Netflix should let that rock. Let those clips and everything still exist. Let the virality exist. And let people come back to Netflix to find it. So brand new short clips with the Netflix thing. I'm not talking about the TV shows and the movies. And I'm glad you brought that up because if I'm a Netflix executive and I'm bringing in this new content, I'm saying we want to get in the business of podcasting, we can't look at just the way we look at our movies and our TV. Can't do it. You can't. By the way, the model for how it works already exists. So if we're going to be in this business of. I don't know exactly where we stopped, but we had to cut off because we had some Wi-Fi issues. But the moral of the story is podcasting is all of new media now. It's shows. It's all of that. It's not going anywhere. And actually, when we have to talk about movies and all that other shit, this is the IP. All of the stuff, the audio scripted stuff and everything, this is the IP. We're creating that IP right now. You'll see when y'all see Brilliant Idiot short film. Woo! Short. Brilliant Idiot short film. What about just film film? Why short? Oh, we're doing a film film too, but we got a great short film too. Yeah, but we're going to have film film, short film, long film, long film. No, no, no. We're definitely doing. Live action. Live action. We got to do live action too. We got some shit coming. 50 Cent live action. 50 Cent. Brilliant Idiots. Alright, let's do some Asking Idiots, mate. What we got? Taylor Gang. Taylor Gang in the house. Taylor Gang's in the house. Big Mama Taylor. Big Mama. Okay. Big girl. She really somebody's mom. I can't believe it. We have a. Yo, they thought she was going to be out here holding the baby all crazy, Taylor, like how Krishan Rock was holding hers. Oh, Jesus God. Why? I don't know why they be trying to play you. How do you hold the baby? What do you mean how I hold him? Taylor be trying to make him walk. He's only. Yeah, no, he doesn't. I don't be trying to make him walk. That's fucking Pat. He be trying to make him walk. At three months? He's four. But he wanted to stand up. He don't be wanting to like crawl. He wants to stand up. That's what's up. Man, I like that. I like that. Evolution, you never know. Evolution might have these babies. He was already turning over after two weeks when he was born. I have video proof. Really? Really. Damn. Alright, art underscore by underscore Oscar said if you could be any Batman villain, who would it be and why? This smells like my side. The farter. Any Batman villain, who would it be and why? I mean, historically for me it's always been the Joker, but I'm not gonna front man. Yo, the way Colin Farrell played Penguin. Oh, yeah. Fire. Oh, yeah. He's so good. Fire. The Riddler is fire. Scarecrow is fire. I mean, Batman got some dope ass villains. That's why I always wanted them to make an Arkham Asylum TV show. Like, especially after seeing Penguin and all that. Like, an Arkham Asylum TV show that's like real dark on some Oz type shit. That would have been fire. Two-Face. He was cool. Two-Face was fire. Starting good, going bad. That was fire. Two-Face was fire. I think I'm gonna still go with the Joker though, man. You can't beat the Joker. Yeah. Joker is great because he just wants to antagonize Batman. Like, that's his win. He don't even want money. He just wants to be a thorn. In Batman's side. You are. You are the Joker, man. You are the Joker, bro. And Batman is Drake. You live to drive him crazy. I'm not gonna front, man. I've been thinking about that, yo. I was thinking about, like, yo, 50 Cent really makes me feel like I'm not doing enough to the people who got me fucked. Yo. Yo. I agree. A thousand percent. He is inspiring me. Me too. I'm letting motherfuckers off too easy. I know. It's like, yo, they say, oh, let success be the best revenge. Nah! You know, let God fight your battles. You can do two things at one time. Man. You can be successful and destroy your opponents. You can have a successful documentary about your opponent. Yo. That's success. Yo. What's your take, though, between him and Diddy, though? Why is he doing this? Did he try to take him shopping? And then don't nobody, like, I don't really. Stop trying to buy me clothes, man. That's weird. Don't fucking take me shopping, dude. And then you ever see, like, sometimes you be hearing certain shit and you want to mix it up, but you're like, it's kind of, eh. And you know what I mean? Like, it ain't really no formidable opponents that make me just want to jump out the window. Yeah. I hear you. You know? I hear you. Every now and then, like, you might tap a jaw here, but it's not like, ugh. But I got some. There's some people out there, though. There's some people out there that they think it's over. That's the other thing. It's like. There's people that don't realize that there's a longer game being played here. Way longer. Don't worry. Listen, I'm confirming my Illuminati membership this year. Ooh. About time. 40 years over, I'm confirming my Illuminati. I love that. I love that. And then, you know, y'all gonna have to look over y'all back for a long time. Mm-hmm. Okay? Mm-hmm. About time. Yeah. Would you rather taste food. Oh, Tommy underscore threat says, would you rather taste food but can't feel sex or feel sex Can't taste food. Taste food. Tommy, you sound like somebody who ain't eating or getting no pussy, to be completely honest. You're trying to make a choice. You would rather can't feel sex? Yeah, because you eat three times a day. You know? You have sex. You know? I mean, honestly, this ain't a hard question for most women, right? I'm choosing food. I love food. Because, you know what I mean, most of these guys think they're making the girl feel something. She faking to moan it. Sex is great, too, but it's just, like you said, in the moment. How many times a week you having sex? It's like once a week. A bad week, you having sex like four or five times. You said a bad week? I'm just joking. I know one thing, Tommy. We make all that shit better. We make the sex better and the goddamn food. You hear me? But that's not the hypothetic. That was a great night for me. Get high, eat some good food, and have sex. All right, what's the next one? Kenny Kelso, who is someone in the entertainment business that would be considered a brilliant idiot? All of them. Every single one. Nah, don't give them that credit. Don't give them that credit. They are, bro. You think they're just idiots? Yeah, and there's some that are just brilliant, but, like, brilliant idiot is a specific thing. You got to own it, though. That's the problem. Yeah. You got to be a brilliant idiot. You know who's a brilliant idiot? Vince Staples. Mm. Vince got good, brilliant idiot energy. He does. You know who else? He does, he does. You're right. I don't know this for certain. I've only met him once, but I think he's got the vibes. It's Woody Harrelson. Never met him. I can see that. But I can see the vibes on him. I can see that. Vince, for sure. Yeah. Who else? Rest in day, Quincy Jones, I think. Tyler. Tyler, definitely. Tyler. Tyler, definitely. Tyler. Brilliant idiot. But see, I mean, I think 50's a brilliant idiot. Oh, for sure. Because I don't think he's a brilliant idiot. I don't think anybody played dumber than 50. For sure. But we really are dumb. Yo, 50 said the coldest shit I ever seen. I'm going to butcher what he said. It's probably online somewhere. But apparently, this could all be fake, but did he send some flowers to his- Oh, he did. No, that's real. So did he send the rest in peace flowers? I don't know if it was rest in peace, but- The idea is it's like the bouquet of roses you put on a casket or whatever. And I think- I think 50 said something like, I don't believe in foreplay. Yeah, I don't believe in foreplay. Let's get to it. Let's get to it. And then he put, I'm a 90s grimy ninja. Don't warn me. Don't warn me. That's the most fire shit. That's crazy. These guys are crazy. Yo, that is fucking incredible. Yeah. I know what it is. I need richer enemies. Yeah. It ain't scary no more. You miss it, huh? It used to be scary. Now you want a little something. It used to be scary. It ain't scary out here no more. You hear me, man? Yeah. You don't want that. You got mad anxiety all over everything. No, but he's comfortable in chaos. Yes. Chaos is where he's most comfortable. The anxiety comes from things going well. He's not used to that. That's right. Anybody that knows me and works with me knows that. Like when I start acting crazy- Things are too good. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I know that. I know that very well. Shut the fuck up. Yeah. Oscar B. Savage on him. Where does mental health start and end? It starts when you acknowledge it and it never ends. It's just like physical health. Like you don't ever really start. You don't stop going to the gym. And oh, and oh, this is a double whammy. Oscar B. Savage on him also asked, how do we measure success without a dollar sign? Come on, Oscar. Are you happy? That's how you measure success. Does your family want to hang out with you? Yes. Do your friends want to spend time with you? Yes. Like, I don't care how much money you got. There's plenty of people I know with mad money who I would not consider successful because they're not happy. Will your grandkids be excited when you come over? Dang it. That's a cold one, but a lot of motherfuckers out there, it's annoying when grandpa and grandma come over. That's true. It is true. What else we got? Let's do a couple more. Oh, I don't feel like, I feel like we answered that before. Best Christmas gift you ever received, Schultzy? Oh, man. I mean, I just remember like, I remember I got a moon watch once that like kept the title time. And this is when I was like young and surfing and my mom like did a little switcheroo on me. She told me that they, she wasn't able to get it. And then I opened it the next morning and like. Yeah, it was, I don't know, for some reason, I just really remember that. I was like, oh, this is the coolest thing ever. I grew up Jehovah's Witness. So what was the, what was the best one? You didn't smell the jerry curl that year? Never got, I never got Christmas gifts. You don't celebrate Christmas? Well, now though, you do Christmas now. Yeah, but the best gift that I get now is, you know, being in a position to provide for other people. And I'm telling you, man, there's nothing like waking up Christmas. Yeah, boom. I'm telling you. That's not the question. But that's the best gift. The best gift is, is, is the gift that God gave me to be able to wake. Okay, so what's the second best gift? I subscribe to, uh, nevermind. Yo, say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. You ready to bleep it? No, that's not fair. No. And I'll finish it. I'll finish it if we bleep it. I think you know what I want to say. We've been. We've been doing it too long. You understand? We've been doing it too long to know exactly. It's a wavelength you got to get on. Yeah, exactly. It's Dwayne Wade and LeBron. You never know when it's going to hit you. Oh. 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