Blanking On Everything

(upbeat music) - Yep, it's all I mean to God. - Andrew Shove. - You oughta bring it in to his podcast. - Have the kind of walk up. - What's up? How are you, sir? - Man, I'm good, bro. I'm sad that the Chris isn't here. - I'm sad that Chris not here too, man. What's, why you sad that Chris here? - No, 'cause I don't know. I just think it's fucked up, man. These, you know, what happened or whatever. - Oh, a child? - No, not with China. It was the hostage deal. He was one of the, they sent him back. (laughing) - Oh, no. (laughing) - The Jews are like, yeah, you've been talking too much shit about us. So we sent it, you were back to Palestine, Chris. - Hey, man, I mean, listen, when something good goes right, you gotta see it, we're right, like. - That's all I'm saying. - I'm not mad at it. - What about, y'all voted for none of this? - First of all, I'm looking. - Y'all voted for none of this. - No, that's just one thing. (laughing) - And I jumped right out of the frying pan and we're right into the fire, ready to go to war with Russia in all kind of time. - He's such a wild ass boy. - Oh, by the way, forget Russia, we can, here's the thing, we can celebrate a win. - Yes, we can absolutely celebrate a win. - All right, one time, forget America. I mean, forget the world, right? - One time for the boy. - It's supposed to be make America great again, right? It's supposed to be America first. - Yep. - Can't end the war one place and start a war in your own country. - That's a good ass, that's a good, why are you already moving on to something else? - I'm not. - I thought we were supposed to celebrate. - We can talk about it all, but I do feel like I see it's like people are jumping off it real quickly. There's a lot of people are like, "Does a genocide happen?" And then the guy literally stops the genocide from happening. And now people are like, "But, dumb, but, " "but you know what, but, "but, "but, "but, "there is a but, you know why? "Cause nobody trusts these aside. - Well, if a mosque says that, they're gonna be-- - You telling me that people are not trusting a deal between Donald Trump, BB Netanyahu and Hamas? - Exactly. (laughing) - Are you saying, are you saying that people don't have faith in a deal? - Exactly. - Between those three, everybody's like, everybody's just like, okay, let's just see what happens. - This shit. - And that's the best thing to do. Take it one day at a time, 'cause Hamas still doesn't feel like Israel has a right to exist. And this current Israeli government doesn't want a two-stage solution. So everybody's just hope for the best. - No, I know, I know. I was being hypervolic, obviously. I think that a lot of people are hesitant to believe this will stick, and they should be, because there's a few thousand years of history that shows it won't stick. - So I do, I hear people making that argument all the time, they're like, "Why don't you go celebrate it? "Why don't you do this? "Cause nobody believes it." - You know what I am really happy about? - Yes. - The hostages being home. - Oh, yeah. - 'Cause in my mind, I'm thinking, can you imagine being a hostage for how long has it been? Almost two years. - Two years. - Is there some change? That is the thing, that's the thing I celebrate the most. Like, yo, you know what, I'm happy those hostages are home. - Bro, it's wild. I've been watching the hostage transfers on like both sides. That shit is emotional, bro. It's emotional, just seeing people reconnect with their family. - Imagine, bro. - There was one that said, and I don't know if it's true, 'cause everything's fake on the internet, but it was one that said it like, they told him that, they told him that his family died. - Oh, while he was a hostage? - Yeah. - Oh, man. - So no, it's fucked up, but like, then he goes back, and this is I think a Palestinian that went back. So I think that the Israeli government or so says the video, which is obviously fucking fake, you can't believe anything on the internet, but they're like, yo, his family died, and then he goes back and he sees his wife, and he's like, he can't believe it. And then he sees his kids. He's like, I can't imagine you thought your whole family probably don't know who he is. - He probably think you're dreaming, yo. I would rather be in a maximum security prison than be a hostage for two years, bro. - A hostage in fucking war, torn Palestine, and you gotta hear all the news from that, like, happening shit, but what you saying is like, it's an equivalent, like, yeah, obviously. - I don't know. - You wouldn't rather be in a super max than be at a hostage in the tunnels of Palestine? - Maybe rapin' in the super max. - No. - That's not the, no. - That's the ones that they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, you don't think they want that halal, you put the all in halal. - You're right, you're right. - You want the little halalics media? - But you are right. (laughing) - We gonna get some of that, bro. - But you are right about something. We don't gotta compare it. - We don't gotta compare it. - Get away, though. This is what we do. - Come on. - But, top five, top five hostages, go. - I don't even know it. - That's just the most American shit. - We gotta, we gotta top five with some of the hype. - Top five is really off, top five. - Top five. - I have no idea, I've never heard of this shit. But this is even, even when everybody would be discussing like we want the, the, the war to end. We want the hostages to come back. The hostages coming back was always the most logical thing to me 'cause to your point, this has been the war. It's been going on for thousands and thousands of years. - Bro. - Do you know what I mean? - We solved it, bro. - So hostages all? - I'm, I'm top 10. - Welcome, yo. I just wanna let everybody know you're welcome, okay? Flagrant went out to the Middle East and then all of a sudden there's a hostage agreement. There's a piece deal. I'm just saying. - Yeah, well we were told. - I'm just saying. - This is what we were told. We were told that if y'all comedians didn't go out there, your family was gonna be hostage. - That's what we were told. - Thank you for letting them go by the way. - I really appreciate you. I hope you like the jokes. Thank you for letting them go. That's what we were told, let me have my daughter back. - What happened with that, man? - Bro, that shit was so, people are so fucking stupid. We were talking about this on Flagrant, but like, I was thinking about it this whole week and I just hear all these people trying to justify it back home. They're like, "America, those bad things." "America, those bad things." It's like, shut the fuck up. You either have fans in other places or you don't. I will perform for my fans wherever they fuck they are in the world. People don't decide where they're born. They don't decide the laws in the countries where they're from, but they do play a role in me being able to literally live my dreams. They watch the special just like anybody else. - You did it for the fans. - What was the backlash? Tell me what was the, what was the backlash? - The backlash is just people who weren't invited if they don't even have fans outside of Brooklyn saying that they wouldn't go. What a sacrifice. You can't perform outside of fucking Green Point. - I keep hearing it with a freedom of speech thing. Like, they don't have freedom of speech over there. - First of all, I don't give a fuck about no other country's freedom of speech. We're the only country we have freedom of speech. - But did y'all have to sign a contract that said y'all couldn't talk about them? - Charlemagne, Charlemagne, Charlemagne. - They probably have restrictions. - Yeah, yeah. - I put my set out. I put all the local shit that I did out. - You could go see if it looked like it. - You could go see it. It's up on YouTube right now. - I bet you nobody else put their shit out. I bet that. (laughing) - I bet you nobody else put their shit out. - So everybody who's making this stuff about like the restrictions, like what you can or can't say. - Yeah. - All that restriction shit is people trying to not be in trouble. You know what I'm saying? Like, they're just trying to not be the ones accountable. It's like your manager, and I knew this 'cause I've performed in the Middle East before. And they give you these things. Like, don't talk about this. And I'm just like, guys, they all are educated in America. Like, they understand shit, they understand the comedy. They speak English, like they get it. - You can make jokes about them. You can make jokes about their leader. - But, but, but, but, but, but people think you can't. - They think you can't. - God, you, like, you can't. - But you can't. - No, they literally was like, yo, you probably be beheaded. - Somebody got a cover there ass. - So there, in case you do something. - But yeah, three-fourths of cloth. - Facts. - Yeah. - Why don't you have your ass out? And I don't beat you. - I'm just saying. - I'm like, why don't you be the ass out? - You might get some fun. - Right in the head. - I know you ain't saying that open. - Oh, of course. - What? - Bro, I did, I had a, you make gay jokes? - I'm pro. - Yeah. - 9/11 jokes. - Bin Laden jokes. - What? - The whole thing. - What? - This one, I got what I told you to. - Yes! - Oh, I gotta go wild. - That's not what I'm saying, man. - What did it go up? - Just put it out now. - Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. - Just put it out right now. - Okay. - But yeah, it's like, this is, I mean, I had this, I had one that was quick. What are you looking up? Are you looking up at the video? - You wanna see the video already there? - You're like, I kinda watched that late. - Oh man. - This thing is like, they like humor out there. This is the thing, a lot of people in the West, they just have this complete, it's pretty, kind of racist, if you ask me. They just have this complete bastardized view of people in the Middle East, right? And they just can't conceptualize it. These guys go to fucking school at Tennessee State University. They're watching only American comedy, only American content, they're used to our humor. They don't get to decide the rules in their country. - Yeah, I don't know. - They weren't fortunate and privileged enough to be born into a fucking democracy. We're the only ones with free speech, by the way. Canada don't have free speech. They're arresting comedians in England for jokes that they put on Facebook. Like those motherfuckers in Canada, truckers protested and they locked up their bank accounts. Like this idea that like, we're the norm. We're the outlier. - Well, let's see if we can hold on to our free speech. Your boy don't seem to want it. - Yo. - Do you, bro? - Yeah, you know what I'm just kidding. - No, no. - I'll fight to the number of free speech, obviously. Like I don't ever want that. I think it's really important for us, 100%. But just this idea that like, - It's their whole livelihood. - Yes, here, but my point is like, these people are not beneath you performing for them. That's what I didn't like with the whole rhetoric. And like, if you really want to look at that purity test, basically all the people being critical, they're not saying it, but they are saying, you can perform in white people countries. - White people countries. - 'Cause name the country is not a white country that has the rules that are okay for you to perform in. - Hmm, I see what you're saying. - You know what I'm saying? Oh, does India have free speech now? - Yeah. - You know what I mean? Like, do all these other places, and then you probably could go over there and get the same jokes off and nobody would care. I think a lot of this is-- - Oh god, they're resting in comedians in India. - Because I remember being, oh yeah, they-- - And I'm going in India. Like, I'm going to all these places because wherever I have fans, I'm going to perform. - They are resting in the comedians in India. They're not going to rest. If you go over to India, they're not going to rest me anywhere. Except America probably. That would be the only place. But like, they're not going to do it because you have been critical of Trump and you're not supposed to be once you was on his side. (laughs) - Oh, compliment, that's what he doesn't like the most. - No, if he gets it right, that picture is crazy. He looked like a balloon. (laughing) - That picture is, he looked like, no that's it. - But if he does something good, I'm gonna say-- - That's what the guy doing your colonoscopy's doing. - That's it, shit. (laughing) - The guy doing your colonoscopy's doing it. - Yeah. - Everyone gets these jokes. Trump is gonna get them. Now if he does good shit, I'm gonna call it out. If he does whack shit, I'm gonna call it out. Which I've always said. - That's what being an American is a butt. - I am interested in the Saudi Arabia thing, no, because I told you-- - Tell me, tell me. - I didn't actually tell you. - I didn't actually didn't tell you. - Yeah. - 'Cause I edited it last week. But-- (laughing) - I had to make sure we were gonna come back. - I know, I get it, I get it. - We had to get back to America. - But we were, when I was in Abu Dhabi, which is another place, people have a lot of-- - United Air Consensus. - The Air Consensus about. - Of course. - Right, yes. - But when I was in there, when I was in Abu Dhabi, I remember Anthony Anderson was there, and he had just came back from Saudi Arabia. - Yeah. - A woman who was with him was like a woman who, I guess, handles the entertainment and stuff over there. So she was like, "Oh, you know what, "Shall I mean, she was talking to me?" And Anthony and all of them were talking to me about how Saudi Arabia is the, you know, they already leaning in the sports, but not about to be leaning in the entertainment. And then you hear other people talk about the fact that their oil reserves are depleting. So they gotta find other ways to get money. I don't know if that's true or not. I'm just saying what they say. - Maybe, man. - But we do know they are making a large investment in sports and entertainment, that we know. - It might, so why did the comedians get so much flak, but golf does it? You're talking about doing a basketball league. I don't know if this is true to what I'm talking about. - W-W-E, they got U-S-C-G-E. U-F-C, they're talking about doing a basketball league. So, I think I saw it with Brown and Marig. I don't know if that's true. I'm just telling you what they mean. Why did the comedians get the flak? - Here's why, this is my opinion. And this is where like comedians can take accountability. We have politicians on our podcasts. And when you have politicians on your part, you know there's more than anybody. Once you have a politician on your platform, you enter yourself into the political mud-slinging discourse. - Okay. - And politics is a zero-sum game. So, for example, it's like, if Charlemagne has liberals on the podcast and you back them all and whatever, you are seen by the people that are your opposition as evil and any chance they get to show that you're a hypocrite or show that you're bad or you do anything, they do it because that is the political game. In a game of power, you use whatever you can to maintain power and to make your opposition look bad. - So, we have the politicians on a pod, which I don't regret, but we have the politicians on the pod. - Say it again. - I don't regret it. - I don't regret it. - Not at all. - And you should. - Not a fucking second. - Not for a second. So, but we haven't won, so we have to be accountable for the fact that like now we're part of the political discourse. And the political discourse is how can I call you a hypocrite or how can I say that you're not living up to my purity test? And then it launched into this whole thing with the Saudi Fest, but like it really has nothing to do with Saudi. It has to do with the fact that like they're these political figures, we're not political, we're comedians, but they're these people that are in that conversation. How can we malign them? How can we do it? Different people got different things. Bill Burr was getting criticism for one thing. - Bill Burr got criticism because to your point. - We almost got, we got like zero criticism here. Because we were the only one from you all. They expect you all to do this. They expect Bill Burr to do it. They're like, Bill Burr, no, you're both a VR liberal, won't champion, you know, you got, we got you on this pedestal and they're like, what? You're over there performing for the sides? That's, and it's not Bill's fault, but it's just that they look at Bill in a pure way. - And he maybe, maybe you could argue like his more recent material presented one thing. I think people were frustrated with him even before. 'Cause I think that, you know, Bill's like one of the most prolific ever and he was doing a lot of like women are annoying jokes that he's the best at. - Oh. - And I think he built his WNBA reality show, Joe Phu Moth. - He's phenomenal. - Top tier. - But I think he built up a right wing audience who maybe kind of like sided with a lot of that sentiment. And then when he started maybe leaning left, which you can do as you feel different things in the world you're allowed to change your human being at the end of the day. But when he started to lean left with the material, all those people on the right felt kind of like abandoned and felt criticized maybe by him. So they were waiting for a moment where he was a hypocrite. - And then Bill got the look, Pudo. - 'Cause I mean, you hear what comes out of his mouth. But when you see him, you know what I mean? Ball head, white guy, you like, "Yo, that's one of us." (all laughing) He hates his wife like, "I hate mine." So you see his look, you hear one good WNBA reality joke. Like, "Ah, I got him." And then when the whole man is fear, bro thing, whatever they was trying to create, come up. You just lump him in that. And then you hear him and you're like, "Whoa." - Yeah. - Whoa, whoa, buddy. - Yeah. - You know? So I can see why that could have been confusing. I can see on both sides could have been confused. - I felt bad for a certain few. I felt bad for him. - Like who? - I felt bad for a Zee's a little bit. 'Cause a Zee's really got canceled on some bullshit back in the day. This was like, "Hi to me too." - Oh, man. - Yeah, yeah. - And like, some girl pulled some bullshit and he got fucked up. - I remember, yeah, I remember. - And he was just coming back. Like, he got a movie coming out. Like, and he just took this gig and they were doubling down. Like, Kimmel kind of went at him. - At a Zee's? - Yeah. - I missed all that. I mean, I was like, this was like a comedian civil war. Because it was mostly comedians. I saw criticizing other comedians and comedians sticking up for other comedians. It didn't really get much traction outside of the comedy world. It started to, but then people realized like, nah, this shit ain't got to. - That's what I was saying on Flaker. I'm like, yo, this is nowhere on my timeline. - It wasn't, it started to. - But listen, this is what I tell comedians. So like, a lot of the comedians that were like, involved in this are operating in like, the euphoric stage of a stand-up career, right? It's like, they just started posting clips and they got a fan base. And they toiled an obscurity for decades. They got a fan base. They're the unsung hero of their fans. Like, I remember this stage where like, they're like, yo, you're the truth. Nobody else knows you but us. They could tour, they can make tons of money. But they haven't transcended into like, pop culture yet. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And what happened is. - Holy a few dodo. - Well, that's true. But what happened is this comedy festival kind of pushed into what they thought was pop culture for a second. So they started getting all this hate. And I think a lot of them were like, oh my God, I work my whole life to have fans and now it looks like all my fans hate me. They don't realize that it's this fake outrage thing in two weeks nobody will give a fuck. A week from today nobody will mention the Saudi comedy. - These are I mentioned it now. - That's what I'm saying. - We're giving it more, we're giving it another week. - Well, I have to get back to see. - I can't win you, I'm winning. - I had to be alive. - What did you? I'm with you, we're giving it another week. I also will say to all those new up-and-coming comedians if you're getting fake outrage you've arrived. - Yeah, it's just the reality of the situation. It's when they don't give a fuck is when there's an issue. Okay, if they're on your timeline and they're giving you fake outrage, cool. - But they don't realize that like those people are not their fans. They're the people that are like perennially outraged. So they think it's their fans that are all leaving them. And the internet can make you feel like that. Once you've gone through enough like internet shit like we have for fucking decade, you realize it's all bullshit. - No, I'm to it. - Exactly, but they're not, it's like the first time for them. So they freaked out, they're like, I'm pulling out of the festival, I'm giving my money back. I'm donating it to charity. - And that's what nobody gives a fuck. - And nobody can't. And now you lost all your money. - You lost all your money and nobody's patting you on the back. There's no reward for you knowing you doing what these motherfuckers have forced you to do. All of these people will get online, have all of this outrage towards you. Then when you do what you want them to do, they'll say, no, you should never should've took it in the first place. We know who you are now. - Man, get the fuck out here. - You never, and I don't know who they are. - You're never gonna make it. You gotta be on a polygenic. And that's the thing that like, I think on brilliant, it's been great. On flagrants, we've never been to virtue signaling motherfuckers. - No. - We're assholes through and through. We're brilliant idiots through and through. So even when I believed what I believed, I believed it. - Yeah, and I'll call you gay. - That's it, you know, sick it. Like, yeah, you never wouldn't hear me say something that I don't believe. Now, will I stay there? Probably not because I'm always taking in new information. - No, I too. - And I allow myself to grow in a love unlike so many other motherfuckers out here who get stuck in a caricature. - Yeah. - They're afraid to pivot, they're afraid to grow, they're afraid to evolve. They've been their whole life virtue signaling for a bunch of motherfuckers who never come. - Yeah, I realize that. - Yeah, I do. - That man's not in the hand. That motherfucker never comes to fight you. - Never. - Never, never, never. - And now you're centered by your own audience. You're talking all this free speech shit, but you can't even have your own opinion. You gotta make sure your opinion lines up with your own audience. If you're gonna be centered by your own audience, just get a job at Comedy Central. - Get a job. - Get a job at CBS, get a job at someone who's gonna dictate what you can't or can't say. What's the point of being an independent content creator if you can't do the things you want independently? - I will say this though, I'm glad you bought that up. There is a misconception that people in corporate America have people telling them what to say. And there's also a misconception that people online are free, and what I mean by that is, there's people on these networks, not a lot of them, but there's people that are willing to take these risks, right? That work for corporate America. And then there's people who have the independent platforms who at the first sign of some outrage, the first sign of threat of demonetization, the first sign of the lawsuit, that's what I'm saying. So who's really free? Freedom is just being free and not being scared. - Freedom is being yourself. - Being your fucking self is gonna piss people off. Sometimes it might upset your fanbase, but if they actually fuck with you for you, not because you're a voice for the things they already feel. Like they know you as you. - Yes. - They'll be upset at you and then they'll be like, "All right, but I like that other shit." - I don't like when I know exactly how a mother fuck is. - It's boring. - All right, I'm like, all right. I already know what that person gonna do. I know what that person is. first thing going to do like who's out there really just sitting back looking at things from an objective viewpoint. Like even with the Saudi shit, I don't think anybody sat back and looked at it from objective viewpoint. The first thing I thought to myself was okay, what are they mad about exactly? Why can't you perform a Saudi Arabia because I'm so confused that y'all let all of the sports people go over there, right? There's entertainers that's been going over there and getting checked. Why is all of a sudden the comedian getting backlash? And it's not like Saudi just gotten the game. Saudi been around for a decade plus dropping back. They just bought EA fucking sports. So that's the beautiful thing. You better stop playing FIFA. If I catch you playing FIFA. FIFA. You better catch you playing FIFA. FIFA for fun. If I catch you playing any of these games, bro, you sell out. Why are you selling out? NBA 2 came. Wow. This is this what I'm saying. It's like all these comedians like put there like what is it drew a line in the sand or whatever they put their foot down. It's like you're gonna now have to pass that purity test over the next few years and people are going to remember you said this. Let's look this up. Let's see what Saudi Arabia. What is it? What is it? Reion. Reion. What has Saudi. Oh, let's stop. Oh, show me. I'm going to get this. Oh, Saudi. What about your radio? Arabia and Rider. Reion. Reion. Invested in in America. Let's see. Let's see. Because I need to know, bro, because I really was just looking. I'm like, I'm not invested in match. Bought and shit like that. Are you embraced AI? That's what I wasn't. I know AI. Did you just want to start talking in his own voice? He gave me a whole. I just want sports in entertainment. My guy. Hold on. No, just give me sports in entertainment. Okay. Just give me sports. But we don't eat. To me, it's like, now I like the, I like to hand with a point. All right. Hammer. No, sometimes you got to hand with a point. Hammer. But they hear you talking and they be like, really? Yeah. Okay. Live golf. PGA tour golf. FIFA Club World Cup. ATP tennis. The zone. Oh, we knew that with the boxing. Project B is a new basketball league. Entertainment. Live nation concert and live events, video games, esports, digital entertainment. So PIF invested in live nation entertainment, owner of ticket master. You know, I'm saying, bro, it's, it's a Saudi capital as big. Yes, all it's everything. So it's, it's, it's, it's too much for you to just be mad at the comedian. Even, even if they didn't do any of it, if I got fans that I'm performing for you, simple as that. I perform anywhere my fans are. Yeah. You ugly said, if you're not mad at golf, don't be mad at fucking comedians. I think he said, maybe it was the rest of us. He said, if you're not mad at WWE, don't be mad at comedians. I don't remember what the fuck. It was one of 100%. So 100%. And also, there's like this thing about the money that I think is so funny. Like, let's talk about that. Because comedians made this. Let's talk about that. Let's talk about that bag. The comedians made it seem like it was like this life changing money. They were being sarcastic. There's a few comedians that said, like, shut your rich ass up, man. I'm telling you. Okay, man, shut your rich ass up. I'm telling you, man. I'm telling you, I know what everybody got. You got to, it takes four days to do one show in Saudi Arabia, right? You fly there for a day, you fly back for a day, you do a show for the day. Maybe you want to do one day before us, you can kind of get to know the place you're talking. If you do four shows in America, if you're doing four arenas in four cities in four days, which is like, what will do if we're on tour? Everybody's doing arenas. If you do four arenas, if everybody's doing arenas, I can't help you. I can't help you. I can only, I can only show you the game. Talk that talk. I can only show you the game. That's all I can do. Show you the game. Talk about the saying. For people not wanting us to be, for the fuck, we are. Why did it get so mad? Why are you so mad that I'm talking to you about my life? You help appreciate this shit. Why can't you watch it from the beginning? For us, our fans too, though. It's the people that weren't there for the beginning to get upset, man. It's the ones that weren't there for the beginning to get upset. I'm telling you. I'll go back, I'll go back, I'll go back. Four days and what? Or if you are there as a bunch of communities, you can make the same money. It's the same money. It's not this, oh, you're just going there for the money. If you're going there for the money, then you made a mistake because you can make it here. I don't want you to know your, at this point right now, you're only talking about five communities. You're talking about me, Chris. Okay. Who else doesn't read this? I don't know who else doesn't read this. What's my man name? Russell, Russell Peter's. Like who? I can only talk about Jane Gillis. Yeah. He's talking about four or five people tops right now. I can only talk about it. Okay. So what if you're a comedian who does like you do your comedy clubs on the weekends? Maybe you got a crazier back and maybe it was really great for you. I can't, I don't know how much they man. I can't speak on that. Give me a basic bag for writer. Not your bag. Just give me like what you, what you heard. Like what's the lowest number you heard somebody got? The lowest. Yeah. Lowest I heard with like 350. So yeah. So imagine you're a comedian that's making $2,000 a weekend doing comedy clubs or like $3,000 a week and doing comedy clubs and you get that. That's like 5448. That's life change and money for you. So there's no question at all. Right. I'm just saying like the headlining act of the people that we're getting scrutiny, saying that they threw away their morals for the money. It's, it's not accurate. It's just not because they can make that money back home. They can make that money when they tour. Right? It's, I would assume and I may be giving them the best, I'm giving them the most grace here, but like I'm assuming they did it for the reason I did is like they have fans there and they want to perform for their fans. Like that's, that's why I think you should do it anywhere. What did you think of Dave's comments? Full of Dave's comments, Alex, because I don't want to miss quote him when he said that. Pull it up. I probably, let me see. Let's see. But the, with the Charlie Kirkshade. Yeah. I just want to quote, I just want to quote it correctly. I, I, I need to know the whole context because like the headline is so stupid that it can't be the whole context. Because I think I kind of understood when he was saying, right? Really? He said, um, okay. Yeah. During his headline instead of the right of comedy festival in October, Dave should tell me the following remarks criticizing free speech in the US. It's easy to talk here than it is in America. Right down in America, they say that if you talk about Charlie Kirk, you'll get canceled adding, I don't know if that's true, but I'm going to find out. Now, I feel like I can correct, I, I could be wrong here. I feel like what he was trying to do was almost like shame America into never being a country of free, of not being a country of free speech. So what I'm saying? Like I'm, I'm over here in this foreign country that known for muzzling people. And I feel like it's easier to talk here than it is in America. Yeah. I mean, like, I, and again, I don't, I don't like judging people off like one line because a lot of shit can be taken out of context. But like, and I assume Dave is not that retarded. So like, there must be something more that goes along with it. But like, yeah, it's easier to talk about Charlie Kirk there because they don't even know the fuck that guy is. They think he's the guy from Star Trek. Good point, right? So it's like, good point. But if you try to talk about Mohammed there, it might be a little more difficult than you talk about Mohammed in America. Good point. So I, but again, I don't know. That's a good point. That's a great point. I don't know the full thing that he said. Like he could have undercut it with a joke, but the headline is removing that. So I'm giving him benefit of the doubt for not being that stupid. I wonder if he would have kept Charlie Kirk out of it when it had made a larger point. If he would have just said, it was easier to talk here than it is in America right now, which is probably still, which probably still isn't true, right? Yeah. Of course not. But you, but you know, America's the only country where you could say whatever. It's also a very different thing. Like we're American comedians and like foreign comedians going over to this big festival, like realistically speaking, even if you said the craziest shit, you really think you get arrested and chopped up. You never know. Nobody else is going to Saudi Arabia. That happens. So they're not going to do it. So we have probably the most free speech and the most protection ever over there. Hey, listen to me. Make them look so. When you're making good points, you ain't wrong when you're right. You're right. That's why anytime, and if you try to make an investment in the sports and entertainment world and you want to see a welcoming to America, you're going to be very welcoming. Honestly, that might have been the most free you could ever be anywhere. Because if you get locked up and fucked up there that weekend, it screws up anybody going there for a long time. So they're not about, they're not stupid. Like they're not going to let that happen. That's why I knew I can say whatever the fuck I want out there. Now that being said, the people there, they might feel a different way. But in terms of like, can you say more in America or there? It's like, there's not a country on the planet that you can say more than America. We are the outlier. We are the unique one. And that's what makes us the best in the world. I wonder if comedians who gave the money back or pulled out, I wonder if they were rewarded by people showing up to these shows here in America. No, they're not. I know they're not. Because the people showing up to their shows weren't the ones angry. Yeah. It's a fake outrage thing that they're not used to because they haven't transcended into this like pop culture conversation where like every single day people need to be outraged at something. Fortunately or unfortunately, we've been through that for years. So we know like, okay, they're fake upset about this. What are they fake up? What is the doval thing? What do you fake upset about that day, man? The people who love you love you and they know you and they follow you enough to know who you are and what you're about. Unless, of course, you've built your entertainment identity around one political philosophy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then those people don't really they love you, they love the fact that you agree with them. - Yeah. can you disagree with them? They go, "I guess I don't really love that guy." But you decided to glam on to something that existed. You know, some might say grift off of something. And then when they found out who you really are, which is not this perfect pious person, then they're like, "Ooh, these have been lions me the whole time." - I wish people knew that the shit y'all think my fuck is this grifting about is this shit we don't get paid for. - Bro, it's the shit we lose money on. - Exactly, why was this shit? My fuck is say we like, "Are you grifting off me?" "What money have I made off mental health?" I speak way more money, investing in other people's mental health and my own. - You don't even get a discount from his therapist. - I don't even get a discount from my therapist, bro. I do the mental health expo for free. We either the Joel and Diane Bloom wellness and events in this weekend and New York, New Jersey, even doing it the last four years in Times Square. You know, we had to move into Newark number one. I like Newark better, right? - Newark is already better. - Newark is already depressing. (laughing) - You can't, you can't bring already sad people with a Newark, it's gonna be a mass suicide. - I like Newark better, you know what I'm saying? I think it's the city that needs it more. But also, it's gonna use more forceful. - Yeah. - You understand what the fuck I'm saying? So y'all don't even know what the hell, y'all be talking about 99% of the time. - It is what it is, bro. It is what it is. - What the bag was like, though. - I'll tell you, I'll tell you on the side. - You told me that last week, I forgot to text you. - Yeah, I'm gonna text you again. (laughing) - I just like the note. - Alex did a joke. - I did. - We brought him on stage to do a joke. - Oh, you got a bag, Alex. - Oh, awesome. - Oh, come bust. - I need to load some home. - Oh my God. (laughing) - I'm trying to jump, right? (laughing) - Technically, I had lines. - If you were a comedian. - Yeah, I had lines. - Yeah. - He is, he was on stage doing a joke. - Okay, if you were, - Let's see if I can get up there, joke. - Dude, let's say you did four comedy clips. You just say you did two weekends in the comedy club. - Bag being in it. - He's not getting paid by Riyadh. He's getting paid by Andrew. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - Excellent. (laughing) - I mean, I'm sure he's still taking care, you know? - It's good. - I always do. - I always do. - But yeah. - You wanna see Alex joke? - Let me see Alex joke. - No, no, no, no, no, no, we don't have to do that here. - Let me see if I was joking, it's going to special. - Hold on, let me get it up right now, I'll show it to you. - Did they laugh? - Yeah. - They laughed at him and heard him. - You murdered Alex. - Oh, I got it. - Okay, all right, I need to bring out all the guys. Let me bring out all the guys. Give it up for the whole Flaker crew. I got shit. (audience cheering) - Mark getting out. - Okay, we're all gathered on a con. (audience cheering) - It's looking like one of them. - We've all been waiting for. (audience cheering) - Okay? - All right. - All right. (audience cheering) - Guys, be polite. - And in all this. - He's the first time doing it and he's doing stand-up. - You can't lie to him. (laughing) - Look at that. I just need to make sure everyone knows. - This is not a bidding. - Oh no. - I saw some people in the back throwing out number. - 300, 400, 500. - No, no, we cannot do that. - Okay, Alex, take it away. - But how much though? (audience laughing) - This is the real two-by-chocolate. (audience laughing) - You love the dish, didn't you? - No. - All right. - I just. (audience laughing) - I love this. - So, I'm blank and complete. (audience laughing) - We need a little support. - Outdress. (audience cheering) (laughing) - Adressed as a Lebanese train conductor. (laughing) - I need you. - I need you to give him a little support. - Do you remember the topic? - Yeah. - Okay, now we got it. - Now we got it. - So, do love being out here. - Well, this is key. - The fits go hard. I love that fit. I love that fit right here. It's really the only place that I can be surrounded by a bunch of dudes in white sheets and not be afraid for my life. - Let's go! - That's a good joke, bro. - That's a good joke. - No, you hate that. - You know, on the breakfast club, he's not rapping. (audience laughing) - It was one foot in the grave, it was kind of like a special Olympic shot, bro. - Yeah, that's what it is. - Yeah, it was kind of like the special Olympic thing. - We've hit the autistic kid at the end of the quarter. - He's starting to have some dreams. - No, no, no, no. - It is, it is, it is. - This student who has special needs was passed the ball at the final second of the game. He took the shot from three and missed, but the opponents actually grabbed the rebound and then gave him the ball again to shoot one more time. This time he hits the shot at the buzzer and all of his teammates run over to celebrate. - I like it up there and do stand up for the first time. - I like the beginning though. - I like this, I like this cadence where he goes, "Your fits go hard." Like a ball was bouncing over each word when you were with the kids. - Yeah, I like completely blanking on something. - Yeah, yeah. - And threw up the dome, put his hand around you and let you know, like, "Does okay, does okay." - Rub his back. (laughing) - You're a strong boy, you're a strong little boy. You can go out there and get this shot, get this shot. - All right. - Congrats, that was good. - No, fuck you. - Yeah, you're very brave, that was good. - We're about to be fighting out here, like I was a pop down straight now. - Good, that was good, man, that was good. - Audi Alex, little Audi Alex in Saudi Arabia. (laughing) - That was good. Listen, I got a laugh, though. - No, you did, you did, you did. - I mean, it's just like when the kid makes the shot at the game, when you bring a little kid out there in the wheelchair, you know what I'm saying? He shoots the basket, it goes into hoop, everybody's here. Even if it don't go into hoop, everybody's here. - Yeah, oh, if he has a bad joke. - If it was a bad joke, if it was a bad joke, I would've got it. - I wasn't a bad joke. - I was a bad joke. - No, it wasn't a bad joke. It was, I heard it, I heard it, a little bit, just keep digging y'all, you know what I'm saying. - Just keep digging y'all for it. - It didn't get to the end word, though. (laughing) - Keep digging y'all for it. - What up? - Oh, I'm glad y'all had fun, man. - Man, we had a great time. (upbeat music) - Stephen A. Smith, did you see Stephen A. Smith? - Um, just pull up, click on pull up. Now, if you remember, back in the day, not back in the day earlier this year, after the Super Bowl, Stephen A. Smith had some words for Alex Alexis O'Hanian and Serena Williams. Alexis O'Hanian is the husband and son of law, Serena Williams. - If I'm married, and my wife is going to join Troll and her ex, go back to her ex. Because clearly you don't belong with me. Wouldn't you worry about him for you would be-- - And so Alexis pulled up on first take. Now, he pulled up on first take, but Stephen A. Smith was there. Stephen A. Smith was there virtually. So I, oh yeah, let's play this, let's play this, let's play here, go. - Stephen A. Smith, you had some, I think you had some marriage advice for me, is it right or? - Well, you know what, listen, I did it, people, you know, we could get into that another time, but I was hoping you were going to be here, but, oh, I'm not, oh, no, no, I am not qualified. - All right. - Oh, no, not me. - All right. - I ain't qualified, my brother. - I was, I was going to ask, because you hadn't been married before, right? - I am married. - No, no, see you. - No, okay, okay. - Yeah, because I give advice to plenty of founders who want to build billion dollar companies, and the reason I do that is because I build billion dollar companies. - Yeah. - So I generally try to stay in my lane and just advise. - Then we'll talk about marriage advice later, everyone 13 years strong, we got Alexis, thank you so much. - Thank you. - Apologize to NYC, two-night event in New York, of course. - He didn't need all that billion dollar company shit. He had him at the, when Stephen A. Smith was doing that, that's all folks. - I bet it is. - Exactly, me and my thing, this is what I say, click, let's go back, click one over, this is what I say. - What Alexis O'Hanian did or whatever, I don't see, not wrong with, he said, you know what I mean? - I also said that they're wrong with it, but it wasn't a real pull up, a pull up is when the person is there and you say what you need to say to the person's face, like I know Alex is a busy person, but when first take asked him to come on, he should have said, "It's Stephen A. going to be there?" And when they said he's going to be there remotely, he should have said, "I'll wait until he's in studio." If you really want to just say something to his face, I respect pull ups when they say to a person's face. I think y'all be doing back flips just because he said it while Stephen A was remote, no, I want to see you say it to a press face. You know when Birdman wanted to say what he said to me, Birdman called a week in advance to say, "I'm coming on this day and I want to make sure that you're staying." So you thought it was soft for him to do it and Stephen A not be there. - No, I don't think it was soft for him to do it. It was the reaction that everybody gave it, you know what I mean? They're talking, "Be a Zoom," now Alexis left a comment and said, "All my friends call me Alexis." - To you? Yes. - Yeah. - I asked to come on first, take the chat with Stephen A. Smith for quite some time, keeping mind, I own a handful of pro sports teams that started at TF League. There's plenty of sports stuff to talk about and my publicists kept getting told it wasn't going to happen. Then I went to the top and made it clear I wanted to come on this show, the chatting person and they let it happen. Then I found out when I got to the studio, Stephen A. Smith was remote from ATL that morning, odd timing, but I'm back to building now. ATLOS was indeed a huge success and have no ill will towards Stephen A. Smith. I don't have a problem with, you know, Alexis saying what he said. I'm just saying, don't act like, you know, y'all, just don't act like, this kid from the Special Olympics making a shot and Alex telling the joke and right. And everybody going crazy. You know, he's an idiot 'cause he's scared to do stand up in the cell. - I'm just saying, I'm just saying. It's just like, everybody does these back flips. Just like, yo, Steven H. Smith was being zoomed. And I'm not saying that Alexis Wooden said that to his face. I'm sure that Alexis would have. I just, you say pull up, I respect the face-to-face confrontation. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Before Birdman came on breakfast club, Malcolm, Malcolm needs to work for Universal, called a week in advance. Hey, starting wants to come on the show on this date. Are you going to be there? Yes, I will be there. You sure? 'Cause he only wants to come if you're going to be there. I'm fully aware of the things that I've said about Birdman. I understand he wants to confront me. See, I'm not one of these media personalities that says things within ducts any type of smoke. But I think that's whack. When people don't realize even on breakfast club interviews, there's not one breakfast club interviewed that I couldn't have edited. We pre-tape. None of this stuff is live. So when you see B.E. Siegel or Fredro or Ludo Oats, who ever it was, named at any of these people, I could have edited all of that or not put it out. That's not fair. For me to get on the microphone, say what I want to say about people and not be there. Now, on Steven A.Side, if y'all tell me Alexis is going to be there, unless there's something super, super duper pressing and I got to be out of town, I'm going to be there. I'm going to be in studio. I'm not even going to get on Zoom and talk to this man for however long he spoke to him before Alexis said something at the end, because I'm fully aware of what I said to this person. So I want to be in a studio that have said conversation. And he's, I'm going to stand on what I said. I'm going to apologize for what I said. Or I might stand on it and say, "Yeah, I did say that." But yo, my bad, you know what I'm saying? I understand your perspective of where you coming from. I'm just telling everybody, like don't treat this like the white guy that could dance. You know the white guy that could dance? Everybody lose their mind. This is doing a regular basic dance, right? Alexis said what he said. But I respect him when he just faced the fame. Well, it's not Alexis's fault. But both of them, as I said, if I'm Alexis, I need to make sure Steven A is there. Now if Steven A decides not to show up, isn't that on him? That's why I said I need to make sure if I'm Alexis, Steven A is there. I don't need, yo, it's Steven A going to be there. It's Steven A going to be there. I want to come through the show, but it's Steven A going to be there. Cause I got some things I need to say to Steven A. I have to please do that all the time. I have to please be like, oh no, I got something to say to Steven A. I want to make sure Steven A is there. If Steven A would make sure he was there for after he'd add something to say to him, he wouldn't do it face to face. And we wouldn't like it. Imagine if KD was a car, remember with Kari Irving, and Steven A would have a new, they shit. Imagine if Kari was like, yo, I want to come to first aid. We wouldn't like that shit the same if Steven A was on FaceTime and Kari was in it. Oh, fuck it, Kari, Steven and Grown? Why was he there? You wouldn't, who? Alex, Alexis. He was Alexis. He promoting, it says on the thing. He was promoting some shit I can't pronounce. Hold on. It's called atlose? What is atlose? ATH-LOS. I don't know. He was there to promote atlose. But this is my problem. Look at all these headlines. Serena Williams, husband, Alexis Oyen, confronts Steven A. Smith over the Super Bowl comments. Billionaire destroys star over divorce laughing. It's like, it was over Zoom. Yeah, but it's also like if he doesn't say anything then it looks soft on his part. I don't have a problem with anything else. You're basically saying like the internet is doing what the internet does. But also in order not to pressing. Yeah, but the thing is that like in order to get anybody to click on anything it needs to be the craziest headline. To be conflict. Like people, I don't think anybody watching were like, oh shit. Like I think the headlines are way crazier than the actual reaction. But I think you do give the guy credit for going to go in a summer's workplace and calling them out what they said. I have no problem with it. Just make sure the person is home. And you get a lot more points for me if you slam dunk on a person with your nuts in his face. So you're basically saying he's getting too many points. You respect him doing it. But you would give him even more points if Steven was there. I can dunk on Dwight Howe would be a FaceTime. But you called Dwight on FaceTime right now. I dunk on him. Call Shaq right now be like this on FaceTime. You can't do it in real life. And I'm not saying Alexis wouldn't. I'm just saying you get more props for doing it. Okay, I'll give you another. You haven't seen the video of the guy like a A-rabble something. And he's playing on like the Nerf goal. Oh yeah, I love that guy. He's like in an office, like a real basketball. Yeah, but that shit is fire. It's fine. The finger rolls crazy. Okay, so that's cool. It's the difference when you watch just somebody doing it in real life. Not knocking Alexis. I thought, you know, you defend your wife. Cool. I'm just saying, I'm a person that when you call something a pull up, when you call something a presser. Well, he never called it. He didn't do that. This is the internet. I'm not my nothing, nothing I said has to do with Alexis. You think he's just getting, you think he's getting the disabled kid points. Yeah, it's from the internet. Like, but by the way, the internet don't even know what pressing is anymore. That's why when you see two people in a studio having a conflict and going back and forth, you want the edge of your seat because you're like, Oh, my God. This is a real interaction. I don't know where this could go, right? And we come from the era of fucking, what was it? Chris, I don't remember whatever it was. Choking out, Jim Rowe. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We come from that. So I just, I just, I come from a different era where I like to see the pull up or the pressing, the confrontation. They gotta be in each other's face. I didn't even know that Stephen A was on FaceTime until I watched the video because of how the internet was reacting. So the internet's making it seem like I'm like, Oh, shit. I gotta go watch this and go watch it. I'm like, what? I think it's zoom. But I think to them, it's no different. Like they're used to watching conflict on zoom. They're used to watching debate on zoom. They're used to watching like somebody own somebody on zoom. Like it's almost normal to them. And this is why this is when I become the old man. Yeah, we're old. I don't respect it. Yeah. I like face-to-face confrontation. But that's, I mean, not to bring it back. The people get real sporty when it's over zoom. That's not to bring about the sound. It's like a lot of people saying what they would or wouldn't do. You didn't let me get top into it. Go, but go there and do it. Go then do it. But as I said, like you could say whatever you want about, oh, they're gonna hold back and they're gonna do this. And it's like, all right, well, I'll put my set up and you tell me if I held back. You tell me if I didn't talk about the government, if I didn't talk about the family, if I didn't do all these shit. Now, you're still gonna, they're still gonna be people whining and commenting. They wouldn't even watch the fucking thing 'cause that's what they get off on. But the reality is like, are you willing to pull up or not? And I think a lot of people would rather sit back and criticize and actually pull the fuck up. Love, let's have a conversation. Let's have a conversation. That's always my thing. I'm never afraid to have the conversation. Now, Alexis was clearly not afraid to have the conversation 'cause according to what he said to me on breakfast club AM, Instagram page, he didn't even know Steven A. wasn't gonna beat that. That makes sense. I believe that. But I'm just saying, let's make sure he's there next time. If you real, especially those who look like your wife. But next time, next time, next time is too much time. No, he should even do it the next day. It's over, it's gone, it's gone. Like he said, he's back to running his company, it's gone. But the moment would have been, that's a 10, 10. If you catch him in studio, that's all I'm saying. But I give him a lot of credit. First time, get on national television in front of a lot of people and doing his thing. I give him mad credit. (laughing) He killed that. He had his first time in front of national television and he went viral. Crazy moment right there, as well, I'm saying. Hate it. No, I actually, I give him credit because I'm thinking about it, you know. He was in front of way more people than you were on that right-of-stage and didn't fold at all. He didn't need a pet talk. Like you was just, how many people left the right at the end? That wasn't live broadcast. I mean, it was live in front of thousands of people. That was the people, but he was in front of a camera crew. What you talking about? That was live on TV though. That's what he's just in front of the camera crew. And he didn't start a, you know what's talking about that? Listen, Stephen A Smith, I hate you. Stephen A Smith, Stephen A Smith is the guy that goes on TV and gives it to people. He was the one stuttering and he was being a face-time. You were a little bit more Stephen A. Hey, I'll take it. I'll take Stephen A. Hey, you started a little bit. You're saying I'm the legend, all right? Nice moment, though. In that moment, in that moment. But if Stephen A doesn't stutter, the internet don't give me this backlash. They don't care. If he doesn't stutter, if Stephen A, this would have actually, how could Stephen A not know it was going to happen? He's really so prepared. Nah, you forget. Wait, when you talk shit like that. Don't ask me, can you talk shit like that, bro? That's not fun. Do you ever walk in a room and see people and be like, man, what have I said about that? All of that shit is. I read it sometimes live in the moments. Sometimes you blink out. Do you know there's an actual study that says, people remember insults for 20 years. Well, forget compliments within 30 days. Oh, yeah. Yes, that's why that motherfucker from high school used to call pissy Paul. Don't ever forget that shit, you know what I'm saying? I used to get called bookie nose in middle school. That shit stinks now if I think about it. Really? I go on Facebook sometimes. This is looking at the people who used to call me. That shit to make sure he's still doing back. (laughing) You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Straighten it up. Put them in my clothes. Friends. This is insane. - You're like, this thing can see me fucking thrive in God, man. Okay. - I'm gonna remember this moment forever. - One moment. - The guy I look up to shitting on me the first time I went onstage. - Damn, bro. - Damn, bro. - I ain't shitting on you. - I ain't joyin', you used to be laughing? - Oh yeah, I saw you laughing. - I laughed at the part before the joke. - He didn't react at all until he said, "Man, I'm blinkin' right now." And then he took the phone out of my head. (laughing) - I'm blinkin' right now, but you recovered. - You recovered, though. - You recovered. Now, have you wanted to see me in hysterics? - Yeah. (laughing) - Yo, if he didn't recover, and all of the comedians on the stage walk off yo. - And left him there by himself. - That would've been-- - That would've been-- - That would've been-- (laughing) - Oh, my God. Oh, that would've been hilarious. Now that would've been some comedy. - He just wants to see the world burn, bro. - He don't want to make money. (laughing) - He's the Joker. He really is the Joker, bro. - What happened to Sardis? It would've been like, "We either one's supposed to be bad." (laughing) - Why'd he just walk this guy? - Gipsy. - He's got to kill himself. (laughing) - Let's face the bills, man. Let's face the motherfucking bills. (upbeat music) - What we got, church announcement show see what you got? - church announcements, man. Shit, I'm going down to Austin this weekend to do the F1 joint. So I'm excited about that. I'm gonna play some paddle. - I'm really going down to play paddle. - What's the F1 joint? - It's Formula One, the race. - I think I went to one of those and I'm-- - I think I went in Abu Dhabi. - Yeah, they do have F1 in Abu Dhabi. - Yeah, I went there and I was in Abu Dhabi. - It's fire. - If you guys get a chance to go see F1, it's fucking, it make you feel like a kid. You hear the cars and you just turn into a child again. It's incredible. But I'm really going down there to play paddle. The F1 guys love paddle, so we're gonna organize some games and then fucking get it in. How about you, man? - My church announcement, man. Thank you to everybody who came to the mental welfare expo. This past weekend in New York, New Jersey, man. Really appreciate y'all. Anybody who wants to donate, go to mentalwelfaligns.org. That's how you donate. But also, man, I want to tell everybody that I have this in my hand. This is the Advanced Reader's Edition Galley for my guy Two Chains. The voice in my head is God. It is his book that will be coming out on my book imprint, Black Privilege Publishing. It'll be on sale. March 3rd of 2026 is funny. I looked at this date and I was like, damn. March, why we got the Galley's already? I forgot we in October. You know what I'm saying, bro. Like March is right around the corner. So March 3rd, 2026, Two Chains. His book, The Voice in My Head, is God, okay? He says this is most personal work yet. It is a fantastic read. If you love Teddy Boy, if you love Two Chains, you're going to love the story of Tahit Epps. You know, that is his origin story. Every superhero got an origin story. Shit, every villain got an origin story. And this is Two Chains' origin story. So go out there and pre-order it now. And I also want to tell y'all to go out there and pre-order, man. One of my icons, right? I always tell y'all, I got four icons when it comes to entertainment, four inspirations. Clarence Avon, Jay-Z, PD Green, and Arsenio Hall. It is a privilege and an honor to be publishing Arsenio Hall's memoir. You can go pre-order it now, right now. Yes, we announced that last week. It'll be out April 7th, 2026, but you can pre-order it now. Wherever you buy books, it's like you can go pre-order Two Chains, wherever you buy books. And I mean this in a silly. Arsenio Hall has one of the best entertainment memoirs I have ever read. 'Cause Arsenio is such an amazing storyteller. And there is nothing like that era of Hollywood in the 80s and 90s. Because you gotta think it was just all of these people who were just breaking through. And especially him being black and in late night, he was the only one. And he was the only one that was providing opportunities for the people who ended up being the coolest things in the culture and controlling the cool what America wasn't on it yet. Somebody like Snoop Dogg can come out and sell 800,000 records in a week, come back and sell the other 800,000 records and still not being raised by mainstream America quite yet. But he's on Arsenio Hall, you know what I'm saying? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - This guy, you know, who's governor of Arkansas, who ends up being one of the most transformational presidents ever knows, oh, I need to go there. That's where the cool is. Tapping into an audience and everybody hadn't quite tapped into yet. - Ooh. - Okay. - Ooh. - I'm tasked with, I'm telling you. - What an idea. (laughing) - What an idea. - But he did it, it worked. I mean, just Arsenio is the genius. - I'm just saying that I'm the Arsenio Hall in my generation. - No. (laughing) - Oh, could you, no. - Hey, hey. - I think that, I don't know. - That's a good question. - Arsenio did say I was the him in this generation. - Damn, bro. - And he did say. - But there's a racial company. - But he said that publicly, I don't know. But he said it publicly. - But what can see beyond color? (laughing) - But no, there is something to that though. There is something to the podcast. - Yes, of course. - Being these platforms that are platforming people who the mainstream hasn't quite embraced yet. But they always end up being the next thing. - Yeah. - And that's what Arsenio did. Arsenio did that, probably better than everybody at that time. So I just, Arsenio is one of the people that you know, you know, they always say don't meet your idols. - But you're mad at them. - Yes. All my idols have been super cool. I ain't never got to meet Peter Green because he, they had God bless the day. - It is nice when you meet someone you admire and they live up to the expectations they built up. Top tier, human being, whole top tier, human being. I seen your whole top tier, human being. So to be in a position to where I can, you know, promise one of my inspirations, memoirs. - Yeah. - Amen. - Fire. - Come on, man. - Come on, man. - Yeah. - What else we got, Alex? - Kylie Jenner's first song. Do we care about that? - Kylie Jenner put out a song? - Oh, we gotta listen. - What do you mean, Kylie Jenner's first song? - We gotta listen. - It's true. (upbeat music) - Nah, that ain't it, y'all. - Listen, man, you know what just proves to me? All of y'all motherfuckers out there that think, you know, if you just got some money and money can get you a hit, or money can allow you to market something like that? - No, you gotta have this thing called talent. - Yeah. - That shit was, that's, it sounded like Kylie got in the studio and looked at the mic and was like, man, I'm blanking on everything right now. - Fuck yeah. - You like that? (laughing) - Yeah, I did it. Like, like who the fuck gave him the booth and put their head on her back and rubbed her back and was like, he complimented her on her outfit. And so she got this. That was horrible. (laughing) - That shit. - You did great, Al. - You did better than Kylie. - I'm slippery, I'm sorry. - You did better than Kylie, bro. - You did, you did better than Kylie, bro. - Shit, we made one during COVID. - Yo, your baby daddy is Travis Scott. - Yeah, you can't come up with nothing better than that. - Yeah, you need a holler at 'em. - You need a holler at 'em. - Yo, yo, yo, yo, your nephews and nieces father is Kanye West. - Yeah. - I know he's on the outs a little bit from the family right now, but. - You could use a little thing. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Damn. - Yeah. - What was that? And then it's called Fourth Strike. She had three out of bats. Look, they gave her three out of bats before that shit right there. Nah, bro. Nah. What else we got? Come on, man. Jesus Christ. Oh, yes. Oh, play hell here, I come. Now, this is this was something else, man. And by the way, I didn't heard Trump say this a few times. I think he's sincere about this. - You had talked a couple weeks ago. You were doing an interview and you talked about how you looked to end the war in Ukraine because it might help you get into heaven. How does this help? Does this help? - I mean, you know, I'm being a little cute. I don't think there's anything going to get me into heaven. Okay, I really don't know. I think I'm not maybe heaven bound. I may be in heaven right now as we fly in air force one. I'm not sure, right? I'm going to be able to make heaven. But I-- - He said this a few times, bro. - Wow. - And Trump don't repeat the same jokes really, unless he's talking about somebody. He said this a few times. - Yeah. - This is kind of crazy. - Well, why, why? - Because people voted for him because of his Christian values. - Nobody voted for him for his Christian values. - Well, that's what they act like. - Come on, bro. - A lot of Christians say they voted for him because of his Christian values. - That's a reach. - That's a reach. - That's what they say. - When they ask him what his favorite part of the Bible was, he's like, man, the whole thing. - The whole thing. - That's a great answer. - That's fire. (laughs) - Fire. - I'll say this though, it is amazing to me that he don't believe in climate change, but he believes in heaven and hell. Just say it's a hoax like everything else. - Yeah. - Why would Donald Trump believe in heaven and hell? - I mean, if he does believe in it, he just has to, you know, commit his life to Jesus. And then he goes, no matter what. Jesus died for your sins. - That's the crazy part. He's like, I'm so far gone that I can't get Jesus. - I don't know, man. - I don't know. - Well, you gotta do it, Jesus. - Thank you. - I also think he's busted balls. - I don't know, but he said that a few times already. - Yeah, but he's at that age where like, he's saying stuff that you kind of got to believe because they know filthy there. - Man, I think he's fucking around. It's just like, imagine you're with your boys and you're talking about getting heaven. You're like, man. - I wouldn't even play like that. - What would you say? - I know I'm going to heaven if there is one. - No, you're not after today. - Why? - What the fuck do I do? - What the fuck do you do? (laughs) - Not about it because of the candle, is that? - Say I bump. - Say I bump. - Say I bump one more time. - Say I bump. - Listen, listen, listen. I don't know, bro, I wouldn't even play like that. Especially after we watched that video and that lady talking about all the celebrity she saw in hell. You don't remember that? - Yeah, yeah. - Like why even play like that, you know? - Wait, what lady said the celebrities in hell? - Oh, it showed what they did. You on the hand when we played that video. - What is this? - Oh, that shit is terrifying. - I don't know how we're going to find it. - No, we don't got to play that shit. That shit? - I don't even want to know. - No, that shit is terrifying, yo. - Is this lady who said she died and she went to, or she had a vision. - What happened to you going to? - I don't know. - Yeah. Is it, you think there's like a non-denominational? - Yeah, that shit don't matter. Like once, I would think that after you leave this earthly realm, none of that matters. You just fear it's at that point. Like, and the funny thing is you might end up in there with dares you hit and just kept driving. You know what I'm saying, fucking spiders, you didn't kill. - So. - Like for real, like you won't know. - Everything makes it to heaven. - Everything, maybe? We don't know. - Are there no dogs in heaven? - What makes, they say all dogs go to heaven? - Who said that? - Whoever the fuck made up that quote? - But that was a book or a movie. That wasn't like in the Bible. - No, I know one thing. There's no quote, they say all humans go to heaven. - That there are quotes and say that. - What? - Those have been saved go to heaven, but not those that have been saved. - I mean, that nonsense, I'm not gonna say it's nonsense. I'm just saying everybody can't make it to heaven. You notice when people die, the passages automatically, you know, gets you into heaven. Everybody ain't in heaven. And the overwind is religion, they say only 144,000. - Yeah, that's a crazy low number. - But think about how pure you would have to be. - But why so specific? - That's why when I hear that, I'm like, okay, somebody knows something. - Yeah, yeah. - That's a specific, only 144,000 people. - That makes sense though. Like when you think about how hard it is to get in, if you don't let Jesus die for your sins. If you let Jesus die for your sins, then you in there. - Shouldn't it be the most exclusive club on the planet? - No. - God sacrifices one and only son. - So it doesn't have to be exclusive. - No. - No. - He's giving you a great deal and you're just not accepting it. - Well, I don't think, what do you think? This is what I would have liked to have seen. Jesus sacrifices life. Anybody sacrifice their life or anybody. Sometimes, if we were in this room right now and one of us said, "Hey man, I'm sacrificing my life for you to do this." And we all do this in some way, right? You dedicate things to them. You dedicate your life to them or your career. You are motivated to do something great by this person's death. So Jesus dies for our sins. So we just say, "Fuck it, we gonna send more." And just keep asking for forgiveness over and over and over and over. - No. - You're gonna try to do the right thing? - Well, I think once you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, you would try to live a life that he would appreciate. - Try or do. - Try. - 'Cause it's not hard to do. - Well, no, it is hard to do because you're born a sinner. - 'Cause that's who? - It's God. - Somebody who sins you really gotta go out to wait and commit, bro. - That's true. - Yeah. - Oh, I'm saying. - That's true. - Somebody who sins, you really gotta go out of your way to commit, bro. - Yeah. - Like having sex with animals or whatever. - Yeah, I understand what I'm saying. - Yeah. - Murdering somebody. You know, like, come murder, murdering someone feels easier than having sex with an animal. - Self-defense murder, I understand. - That's not murder, that's not. - That's self-defense. - But going out to just doing serial killer shit. God damn. - No, that's true. - Dealing from people. God damn, what under 10 Commandments? - Yeah. - Hook 'em up. I don't even know 'em about her. - Yeah, we gotta remember her. - Let's see how hard these things, 'cause some of this shit is very hard to do, bro. You gotta go out your way to commit some of these sins, bro. - Yeah. - Okay, let's see. Let's look, pull 'em up. - All right. - Pull 'em up. - 10 Commandments, go. The 10 Commandments. - I look here we go. - Here we go. - Find 'em. - Here we go. I am the Lord that God, thou shalt not have strange gods before me. - That's not hard to, that's not difficult. - That's easy. - 'Cause you know, 'cause it's not. I don't even know what a strange God means. - Meaning like, you don't have multiple gods. - Multiple gods. - Like, when people, they use to worship cows. - Exactly. - All of them are all other religions. - Yeah. - So that we start worshiping cows, turn to the staking hamburger, what they belong. - Facts. - Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord that God invades. - Now people try to use that for me, right? But always. - Why are you taking it in vain though? - 'Cause he calls himself God. - But that's, I don't, I think that's blasphemy. I don't think that that's taking it in vain. - But I say, the God, Tisha, I never say I'm the God. Okay, Genesis chapter 126 says God created man in his image of pointing. - You're gonna try, you're gonna try to lower your God right now. - Well, I'm saying, I'm gonna try father's name. - What'd you be? - What do you mean? - My father is God. Genesis 126 has God created man in his image according to his likeness. So when I was looking to mirror, do I not see God? When you look in the mirror, do you, well, you're a devil. Oh, what? - God is dead. - But I'm just saying, you don't see it? - No. - All right, remember to keep holy the Lord's death. I thought about those first, God is hard. How difficult is it to go out of your way for those first two? Right? You are a fuck. - Exactly. - Remember to keep holy the Lord's death. Isn't every day the Lord's death? - You could have called yourself Charlemagne the Lennard. - Yep. - Charlemagne the Larry. Charlemagne the McKelvie. But then I wouldn't be coming in God's name. I want people to see me and see the God. I want them to see God in me. I want to, I want to do my best job. I want God to show himself through me to other people. Look what I can do with this motherfucker. Yeah, and that's why you got all these little kids who are asking people on the street. They're trying to be you. - Yep. - How you mean? They're looking at you and they're doing breakfast club interviews to people on the street. - Well, guess what? God didn't done with me yet. (laughing) This is journey, it is a process. - Okay, that light is just getting brighter and brighter. God is not done with me yet. - All right, ready? - All right. - Remember to keep Holy the Lord's day. - Yes. - That can't just be Sunday, bro. - Well, Saturday, but yeah. - Huh? - The Sabbath. - Saturday. - Oh, that's not why the Jews take off on Saturday. - Yeah. - So when it's Sunday. - I have a new testament switch that. - The Christians got to switch it up a little bit. They're like, we're gonna do this on Sunday. - We don't even know the day. Now if he gave us the day, then we could be like, all right, he did, on the seventh day he rested. You gotta keep that. - That's Sunday though. - No, Saturday. - Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. - Saturday. - Saturday. - The week starts Sunday to them, yeah. - So we turn Saturday into a goddamn party day. - Yeah, listen, this is, you know, you just, you know where Christianity comes from. - Hey, look, you just said God didn't. - You just said God didn't. - You just took the Lord's name and been. - So this ain't our fault though. This is actually a technical problem. - I mean, Middle Eastern people tend to run late, so I don't think it's weird this on a Sunday. It's a little bit there. - All right, so honor thy father and mother. You honor thy mother. - I honor thy father and mother. - Yeah. - You should go to hell if you disrespect your parents. But I get it though, 'cause some parents are pieces of shit and some parents are traumatized as their kids. - Well, you gotta honor them. - What if your daddy did'll do? - Honor that, did'll do. - No. (laughing) - You don't, it's honor. - According to God. - According to God, you got him. - God, no, no, no, no, no. - There's no killer sitting, there's no butt. - That'll show not kill. - That's easy. - That's not a real, you're not, you, but, but, what kill what? - Exactly. - Kill what? - Kill this beat like Kylie did. - If you kill a beat like Kylie did, you know what I'm saying? - I'm just saying. - I think it's Bowsung I murdered, but, Bowsung I commit adultery. We don't even want to go into that one, Charlemagne. But I forgot for my, I forgot for my, I forgot for my, I forgot for God to have me repaint for my sins. And I changed. - Yeah. - That's the key. That's what I keep, that's what I'm saying about Jesus. You're supposed to do your best, but do actually do right. - Thank you. - You are best. - No, no, you gotta do right, bro. - He knows you know what right is. No, you're not, I ain't failed, I ain't failed, I'm not failed. I'm not gonna come to the adultery thing. - Bowshell, not steal. - Now what if you're a baseball player? - And that is literally part of the goddamn game. - Ah. - Well, it's part of the game, you're allowed to do it. - Let me just use the word steal. - Okay, but I hear what you're saying. - Feel what? All right, Bowshell, not, but there's no reason to steal when you have the means. 'Cause what if there's a hurricane, you don't got no money and you pour and you gotta go loot and get some food for your kids. Come on now. - Though it doesn't say thou shun our loot. - That is very true. - That is true. - With some people call loot and stealing. - But you're right though. - They're fucking up. - Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. - No, I don't even know what that means. - I think it's lie on your neighbor. - Hmm. - What fun would podcast me? - Yeah. (laughing) - You couldn't lie on your neighbor. - 'Cause thy neighbor means that if you. If you think of the Ion of the people, what fun would podcast me? - It was lying on your neighbor. - What if it holds when we have to go down? - This is literally 67 to 80% of the whole media landscape. - Yes, lie on people. - But they're not saying how to have a successful podcast and saying how to get into heaven. - Right. - Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife. - Yo, come on. - That's a good one. - Don't be disrespectful. - Love it means the lust after. Don't be disrespectful. - And thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods. You can't look at your neighbor's house and wish you had that shit. - But that's inspiration, right? - Well, well it's like. - Damn, that's dope. - Well, that's okay. I think you can be inspired by. - Yeah. - But you can't hate them because of it. - I'm not necessarily inspired by neighbor's goods, right? Like if I look at somebody and they got an amazing, amazing something, like let's just say it's a house. I got a nice house. But if this was an amazing house, I'm looking at it and I'm not saying like, damn, I want what that person's got. I'm just like, I just want a nice house one day. - Yeah, but I don't think that's coveting. You can look at your neighbor's wife and be like, wow, that's a beautiful woman. I would love a beautiful wife one day. - Or I would just want a wife because I like the family dynamics. - Exactly. You don't want to like take that from that person. - No, no, no, no, no. That's fucked up. So I think he's a pretty good man. - Well, it's proven my point. You gotta go out of your way - Yeah. - To really break somebody's shit. - Yeah. - Yeah. - You be lying on that neighbor. So that's one. - I'm trying to do better than I was. - He's trying to do better though. - We're all trying to do better bro. - He's trying to do better. - You can start now. How did I do? - What's your, oh what? - Oh my joke. You start now. Don't lie. - I mean, what am I comparing it? - I was a person's first time going on stage to do stand up. - Hey. Nah. - Hey. - See? - There's only one joke though. - Going to help. - What's your name? - You're the comedian. - Imagine you went to hell. - Beyond is, what do you think? - What I think of his stand up? - Yeah. - I think you did a great job. No bullshit. - Really? - I think you're very nervous when you're up there your first time. You missed the funniest part. - What? - It's not, no, it's not in the video. Shifty cut out of it. My favorite part. - Why didn't you put that in? - This shit is so funny. But in all honesty, his first time he's nervous, granted the audience, like you said, knows that he's nervous so they're rooting for him. Because they're all imagining what it would be like. If they were up there for the first time. And then the joke was clever. The joke was 100% clever. Like, we cannot deny the fact that the joke was clever. As of Alex Media. - Oh, you wrote it. - Robbie helped me with it. - Robbie Silver. - Okay, okay, okay. - Oh, well, then that's Robbie Silver. Yeah, that's good. I thought you had that shit and I was like, "Oh, good, that's fine. "Okay, shout out to Robbie." But still, it's a very clever joke. And I think that they're basically like, "Okay, here's this guy that's nervous." He actually delivered this thing and the thing is clever, give him a round of applause. He's not going up there going, "Yo, I'm the best comedian." "Here's my joke, type of thing." That being said, okay? That being said, I think that we kind of feel for people in those situations. But the funny is. You don't, you won't care. You won't care. I need the blank and the keep going. Okay, so you had me at, I'm blanking on everything. Oh my God, let me put my phone down. - Yeah, hold on. - This fantastic new comedian that's going to see you. - Look at this, look at this, look at this. This is my favorite part. At the end, we finished the show. Thank you guys so much and Al goes, it's not a video, I wish it was in the video. He goes, "That's my time." You know when that's my time hits after you bomb. After a person bombs in that red light comes on and they got to try to just kill time, or their time isn't even up. - Yeah. - But they know, that's my time. - Yeah. - The human red light is better than the red light. - That's right, I'll tell you, it's just your fucking time. - So you're going to do it more? - You're doing it more? - I might. - Yeah. - I'm going to pull up. - It's fun. - No, I don't. - Don't shoot it. I'm going to get you up there. - For what? - Just a joke, one joke. Everybody should try it. - You should try it. - I did it one time. You know what my joke was? I walked down on stage and I said, "Man, I looked at that crowd." I said, "Man." They'll look back at the stool, look at the back of the crowd. I said, "Man, let me sit my ass down." So y'all don't ever say each other. He was up here trying to do stand up. - Oh. - Keep digging your crates! (laughing) - Whoa. All right. Stand up, stop everybody. - By the way. - All right, go over. - Saudi next year, we gotta get 'em out. - Saudi next year, show 'em baby God. (laughing) It's a handline. Come on, let's pay some bills, man. Okay. - Oh, we got it. - Now, shout out, "Covid Dye Neighbors Jokes." What do we got? We got more, huh? - More. - We do some math to the audience, buddy. (upbeat music) - Well, today is the 17th. This week, Friday is the 17th, right? - Mm-hmm. - Friday's the 17th. Okay, listen, Birmingham, Alabama, I will be in Birmingham on the 17th at the Alabama theater with a former vice president, Kamala Harris, having a conversation about her book 100 and seven days. - Yeah. - Want to tell you all that. Yes, it's actually two, it's two, how about you say, shows? I guess they are shows. I don't know. It's two of its five o'clock and eight o'clock. So a conversation with Kamala Harris with the Alabama theater and Birmingham, Alabama. This Friday. So I'll see y'all there. Let's do some asking idiots, mate. - Is there any of these topics you wanna hit before we go to? - Let's see what we got, mate. What we got, mate. - No, let's sit down asking these, 'cause I gotta go to a child fair. - Let's do some, what the hell is a child fair? Are they telling them it's fairs now? - Yeah, man. - God, damn. - Well, I mean, y'all used to just do it at the bottom out of their back of pizza shops. What the fuck happened? - Certain pizza shops. - Ah. (laughs) - What the fuck? They doing a whole fairs now? - Yeah, shit, it's crazy. - So. - CRXK2003 says, "What was the hardest lesson you had to learn in your lifetime? What's the hardest lesson you had to learn in your lifetime, Shultz?" - I don't know, that's a great question. The hardest lesson I had to learn. I don't know, I wanna like think on that. The hardest lesson. I don't know. - I don't know. - What's the hardest lesson for you? It's the hardest, but the lesson that I've definitely learned is don't expect you from other people. - Ooh, that's great. - And I think I'm also still learning a part of that lesson is, don't expect you from other people, but also karma, you know, energy, whatever you wanna call it. Whatever you on, don't mean that's what everybody else gonna be on and that don't mean that's what you gonna get back. - Yeah. - In fact, I think I've learned the opposite. Meaning that it is really true that we all be having crosses to bear, especially based on what it is you choose to do with your life. If you choose to like, you know, really go down a path that a lot of people haven't gone down, especially, you know, like where you might be from, or, you know, you know, just shit like that. Like, yes, there's going to be a lot of obstacles, hurdles, and tough shit you gotta deal with in exchange for that success. And I never forget, you know, actually it was actually a lesson that, I don't know about it, who the lesson was from. But it was a lesson that a very prominent person said to me one time, and they said to me that if you had all of your, if you had, if you had, if somebody said to you right now, you're gonna have all the success you have and all the success you're going to have, what all you gotta deal with is critics, people lying on you, you would take that deal nine times out of 10. I think I would take your 10 out of 10. 100% you know what I'm saying? Because it just, that's what comes with it, especially in this, in this game, in the entertainment. - That's a great, so since I was a kid, this is what I wanted to do in some way, shape or form, I'm doing it at a very high level. - The highest. - So whatever comes with that, I'm cool. - Yeah, I think, yeah, it's like you can't have your cake and eat it too or whatever that saying is. Like there, when you reach a certain level of success, there's obviously gonna be criticism. And it's one of those things like when you see narratives about you that are completely false. It's frustrating because you're like, man, people are so gullible, they fall for these things all the time, but I'm sure we also fall for narratives about it. people all the time. Absolutely. It's kind of the nature of the TikTok creator economy we live in, which is like say something salacious and maybe half true, you get way more views than if you say something nuance and thoughtful. And yeah, I guess there's an interesting lesson to that. And it's hilarious, right? Like it's funny to me because I think it was maybe the next week after the damn disaster. I don't remember what it was. It was something going on, but then like on the internet, they have in one conversation, but then that whole weekend, I'm on the front page of the USA today. It's like Charlemagne, the Kingmaker. But dude, there's like whatever that means. There's a thousand different realities now, man. Yes. And we spend more time on our phones than we do in real life. Like if you literally look at how much time you spend on your phone every day, you probably spend, I don't know about you, but most people they might spend six hours on their phones, seven hours on their fucking phone. Right? So you spend more time on your phone than you are interacting with the real world, right? So the real world is actually fake. Yeah. The fake reality that you see on your phone is curated by these algorithms that's happened to your fears. That becomes your reality. So I think people become really radicalized because they feel very comfortable in these super crazy opinions that they see flood in their feet. Yeah, absolutely right. And so it's like, yeah, we live in a very weird time. That's why I think like you can really only do the thing that makes you feel good. There is a freedom to this, I will say. The freedom I've realized is like, I see people trying to like ride the waves of criticism of that kind of stuff, but like the freedom I think is people are going to be upset no matter what. You always say this, you're like three people going to say you're good, three people going to say you shitty, and three people going to roll it in. Yeah, but it's like once you go through it enough, I think you realize what it's just like just do the thing that makes you feel good and that you believe in because everything else outside of that doesn't matter. By the way, that's when I know a person is going to be great. See, when you hear and you doing this, everybody cheering for you, you know, the dog, they love you, they love to see you when they're like, oh my god, that's our guy, that's our guy. But then when you get there and you're there there, they're like, wait a minute now, I know he was on the come up, but I know he was going to get that. That's when all the bullshit starts, that's when all the hate starts, that's when I'm not like you used to be, I'm like, why don't you shouldn't be like you used to be supposed to grow, you supposed to evolve. That's when all of the hate and all of that shit really, really, really comes and then if you can withstand that, invincible. On the other side of that is where the real greatness lies and the real success lies because God is like, I not gave you what you wanted, you got there and there's a lot more for you to get and there's a lot more places for you to go, but if you can't handle this, that's why it's like, just with anything, I really feel like the way through is talking about it. Like the easiest way to do this re-odd shit would have been for us to never discuss a single thing afterwards, not me not put out a clip from the whole thing. Like the easiest way to just go through and then don't look the other way, but like that scared shit. Yes. It's like, I wanted to go before and then I felt really good about performing there. It's scared. You can't do it scared. Wait, what are you saying? Do it scared. What does that mean? Do it this. Meaning like, it's almost like a fairness, right? And I thought about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Do it. Do it. Do it. You got to go do it. And you also just got like, if you believe in something, it doesn't matter what the people say. Eventually, they're going to realize you do whatever the fuck you want to do. And if they want to get on board with that shit, they can. And if they don't want to get on board with it, they cannot get on board. But they're not going to dictate what you do. And whoever you lose in the process is both doing you. You're supposed to, man. And that's just going to come back once you say something they like. And it's, this is the cyclical nature of are they just going to decry the bigger you get. They're going to do two days. They're either going to know three things. They're either going to celebrate because some people really do celebrate. Yeah, right? Are they going to hate? Yeah. Because some people just, that's the day they're affording to hate. Yeah. Are they going to decry? And the Dick Riding comes from watching everybody celebrate you. So they don't want to look like they're not part of the party. But the second something goes wrong, they're the first one. Oh, they'll jump with the haters. That's why the Dick Riders just jump from a test. But those, those motherfuckers are never your real fans in the first place. They're the plastic bags in the wind. They're letting like a TikTok video dictate their feelings. They did right. What dick is warm? Mm-hmm. You go hop on it. You hop on it. Sluke the J-star too, man. I wanted to slew J-star because this was a, this was a great piece. He wrote in USA the day about me and I didn't know I was going to be on the cover. I thought it was just the interview, but it ended up being on the cover of USA the day. So thank you, J-star. Out of 10 occurrences, how many times do you tell your wife that other women hit on you? Bro, I'm married. Women don't hit on me. That's just over. That shit is over. And when women were hitting on me, I wasn't telling my wife and that was the problem because I was hitting bad. That was bad. No, it was bad. Don't even say that. I was like, well, one of the 10 Commandments. You can't break them. And then I decided that I wanted to be a better person and I asked God for forgiveness. And so I do better now. There you go. Meaning I don't do it at all. There you go. Okay. Yeah. Faithful Black man over here. One day at a time. Now, there are times when, you know, because you know, you get to the point, man, when you be so married and watched that, you know, you be at your daughter's cheerleading competition and you'd be like, no such a such mom. She over there flirting with me. Thank God you're talking about the parents, bro. I was like, this guy's talking about the cheerleading competition. I was like, what a one-child fan. That's what your mom said. That's what the fuck is wrong with you? What is your problem? Well, I was like, I did that. Well, yeah, you were saying the moms were throwing rhythm at you or what? In my mind, you know what I mean? That's just, you have a conversation with a married man for over 30 seconds. Yeah. And man, he has one. Exactly. And man, no, no, no, better man. It's like, I mean, a simple being nice to a married man, a rub on the back. Oh, no. Make you feel like you still got it. Why is she rubbing on your back? Bro, that's crazy. Oh, fucking no. That's the same reason you rubbed on Alex back to give him some encouragement. What's one character trade you have that you wouldn't want your kids to have? One. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Oh, man, what's one character trade? I have that. I wouldn't want my kids to have. Oh, like, like, the, all the tricky thing is that like sometimes these character traits, they can help you be successful. So I wouldn't want them to inhibit their success. But at the same time, like, you know, like, you know, thinking you're right and wanting to convince somebody that they're wrong. I don't think leads to the best communication sometimes. But we're podcasts. But we podcast. That's what we do. So if the kids want food every night, you got to get a little contention, a little argument, a little conflict. You know, I'm saying I just what it is. You know, and I'll be honest with you, my brain really works like that. It does. I don't know why it does. I'm trying to help you. It is not because I'm not a contrarian. I just really am objective. And I like to see things from all sides. And I'm just like, well, have you tried to look at it like this? We don't even say it that kindly. We don't say, have you tried? No. We'll be like, man, I was stupid. What you said? Let me help you with your thoughts. I don't think people realize, man, when that spirit moves you, bro, like it's a spirit. I watch, like I watch you on stage shows. I watch you when you're part. It's a spirit. Like we get downloads. And we got to let that shit out. Let it out. And this ain't just when the mics are wrong. I can't, I can't hold it. I can't. I can't. I can't. I feel like if I'm not shooting, I got to shoot. Yeah. In the world, in the world, we shoot. That's how I love talking to people. I love conversations. It's breathing. Talk. Let's live. And I like listening to a person even before I even talk to them like, oh, hey, because I want to see if that person's going to spark something in me. That's a different perspective. Like I asked what I like. I like people that spark a different perspective in me. Like, oh, all right. Yeah. And a lot of times when I'm looking at the social media waves of things, I don't agree with majority of them shit. Yeah. majority of the shit that motherfucker's being on on social media, I promise you I'm probably going to opposite way. Yeah. Just because I'm like, y'all bugging. And she can't because there's, you know, I don't, I'm gonna tell you why. Just thought about it. Now, I didn't just think about it. But I just thought about it. I don't think in extremes. Social media thinks in extremes. Yeah. So your natural reactions to be like, any that crazy. It's not that it's nuanced to it. Like, and then sometimes I'd be like, well, why y'all reacting like that to this? Yeah. But not to that. Yeah. I can don't make no sense to me. Like, yeah. I don't know. No, no, no. You're actually making a great point. It's like extremes. The only thing that gets reactions online. So naturally, we see these extremes on all sides. And we're just like, it really ain't that big. A deal. And then when we react like that, the extreme people go, man, y'all just fence riding or you just sit in the middle or whatever. It's like, yeah, yeah, that's what normal people do. Normal people are not extreme walking down the street. These little freaks that have this one myopic view of the world. There are normal people can look at both sides of something big. I could see where they are there. That's normal shit. That's right. So I think that is one trait. People please Even though I got to handle on that and I know it's a complete sentence nowadays. But you shouldn't be a people pleases to the detriment of yourself. But I think that there's an aspect of that that is beautiful, which is you care how people feel in a moment. So I know people who are devoid of it, they're like, I don't care if that person feels good at all. And those people kind of suck. They just seem selfish. They're only care about how they feel in a moment. Yeah. So having some empathy for how someone feels in a moment I think is good. Like imagine being somebody who saw a person go on stage for the first time and like they were just watching it and like relishing in the failure. Like imagine that. But what if I am a person who likes watching the person fail on stage? What about me shows? You can't tell me to put myself first, okay? You can't have me be concerned about what this person is going through when what I actually love and enjoy is happening. I think you figured it out. You don't people please anymore. It can't people please no more, man. And also the people please and I'm talking about is just like you know constantly like being there for everybody, but here's the thing. I don't do that for any other reason other than I enjoy it. And like you know my wife will you know me sometime or like people that close to me like Dolly will you know me sometime and they'll be like you know that's why you I do all of definitely you know me like that's why that's why that's such such fucked you over. And it's like I don't care if they fucked me. Well yeah because you did the right thing for you. I did it because I wanted to do it. Yeah, they're a bad person. It doesn't mean that you should it doesn't mean you should treat everybody as if they're going to be bad. That's a way that's a horrible way to go. Yeah. I did it because I do things for people because I genuinely want to do them. Yeah. Put no other reason. And I got the resources and you know spirit moves me. I'm going to do it. If you fucked that up that's on you. Yeah. That ain't going to stop me from being me. Yeah. I guess that's kind of how Jesus works now he's on board now he's on board. We got there. It took us two hours, but we got there. Jesus works. Yeah. We talking. Let's do one more. Why are all the leaders afraid of Trump? That's a good one. When you mean leaders like of other countries, other countries, industries, I got a theory about this. Go. Me too. Go. And my theory came just from reading this question because I'd be one I do be sitting back wondering the same thing like why are the checks and balances not for him. Why is he able to do the things that he does? I think that he is a master troll behind the scenes. Let me tell you what I mean by that. We're looking at the chaos we see. What about the chaos we don't see meaning? What if like terribly embarrassing things are happening to people publicly and we don't know he's the one behind it? Oh, you're giving a lot of credit right now. I'm just saying as a person who may or may not enjoy the troll. Do the same type of shit, right? I don't do that type of stuff. Of course not. What? Okay. When you see somebody going through it, going through the chaos that they're going through for whatever reason they're going through it. Yeah. And that person knows. It was him. The whole time. It was him. I don't even know anybody else to know. You know. You're getting in line. Meaning, meaning, meaning if you're one of these world leaders who's seen it happen to somebody else, not saying he's doing it to everybody, but he's made enough examples that they like, yo, that motherfucker. Possible. I think, well, I think it's possible. I think that like love him or hate him. He doesn't subscribe to like the orthodoxy, the typical politician subscribed to. So it's like the reason like Biden and Kamala couldn't get any deal done over there is because they were probably going through the typical diplomatic process that, you know, presidents go through. And I think Trump is probably like, while we do that, I'm going to just call this guy and tell him that he's not going to get any more bombs unless he supports this country. And then I'm going to ask this country what they want and I'm going to all right. That works. Give it to him. So I think he's just cutting out all this shit and they believe that he'll do it. And when you, when you act that erratically on a world stage, people have no choice but to react to it. Because they're like, I haven't seen anyone behave like this. And the cost of me not taking this seriously could be very high. And I think in a lot of places in the world, especially the places where their dictators and autocrats, I think they actually relate to it better. Yeah. Are. So they're just like, what the fuck is going on? Why is he so transactional? He's just asking me what I want. And then he'll give it. Like, doesn't he have to ask Congress? Doesn't he have to do all these other things? You know, it's so funny about what you're saying. If you're a dictator or authoritarian, you know what that looks like. Yes. Like, I actually think he does better negotiating outside of America than in because he's talking to other people that have full control and power. So he's just like, what do y'all want? Oh, you want this? Okay. I'll give you that. And then you give me this. In America, he got to ask Congress to do this. He got to ask the Democrats to do this. The Republicans do this. These people are fighting here, which is a great system. It is the best system. We shouldn't change that system. Yeah. But it doesn't work. Oh, that system changed, buddy. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. But my point is it doesn't work for how he operates most normally. Whereas when he's operating overseas and he's talking to these other dictatorships, he can just go, yeah, I'll give you that or I'm taking this away or I'm going to blow them up. I'm just going to do all these things and they have to react to it. It doesn't seem like a lot of the world leaders are afraid of him, though. I don't see no fear from China. I don't see no fear from Russia, but I think frustrated him. That's why he's so upset now putting the tariffs on China again, you know, telling Putin, I'm not happy with you again. Listen, they might not circle in the wagon with the sub the nuclear submarines and around Russia. He's trying to strike some fear in them, but it don't seem like it's working. They might not. The leaders here in America. Oh, he got him. Oh, every industry, like Barack Obama said this week, Barack Obama was like, just, just stand up, say no. Yeah. Speaking about, I think he was speaking about like the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the television networks. Yeah. But for whatever reason, he got them completely shook. But that's because he threatened them and then backs it up. Like you saw he had, you on donated, what, 200 million or whatever the case is, and then he shut it down. He shut it. He just kicked Elon out. So if he could do that to the richest guy in the world who is probably, probably responsible for you being in office, he's going to do that to everybody. Yeah, but he backed with Elon. No, he backed with Elon telling Elon he missed something like that because Elon's backing the line. Elon got in line. Yeah. It's not the other way around. Explain Disney to what about what happened with Disney? You, you, you, you, your FCC chair comes out, give this stern warning about Kimmel. Yep. They put Kimmel on ice. Yep. This $6 billion market share within a week, it was like a million plus subscribers. Somebody said, yo, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Stop the motherfucking bleeding right now. Okay. What he talking about? Put him back on the air. He ain't even really saying nothing after that. We ain't, we ain't here about no, who is he? Who is he? Trump. Trump. Oh, but that's, he said like maybe one thing after, just left it alone. But that's Disney reacting to the market and he respects the market. He respects business. And so he, I'm pretty sure Kimmel will be gone probably in a year. There's these like, yo, we can't do it right now, but eventually we got it. But I feel like that, I feel like you got that from me. I did say that. You did say that? Yeah. I said something, all right. I said, remember we were talking about it, you showed what he remember we were talking about it on the pod and I was just saying how like I think of, I think ultimately he's going, Trump is going to win and get his way. Oh, maybe. But. Yeah, you right. I know. I'm just talking, man. It's a pardon, bro. Like, now I'm not covered by neighbors thoughts. Um. Yeah. As always, if you listen to this podcast and think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brewing, you're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple of idiots and don't know shit, you're right too, it's the brewing of this podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.