Blanche Gets Through Committee as Michigan's Senate Primary Goes to the Polls
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The hosts, Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov, begin by discussing the likely confirmation of Todd Blanche as Attorney General, criticizing Republican senators like Cornyn and Tillis for rubber-stamping a nominee tied to Trump's legal interests, including immunity deals and weaponization concerns. They argue the courts are the last backstop against executive overreach, but norms have eroded, necessitating structural reforms like higher official pay and restrictions on post-office monetization. The conversation shifts to Jeanine Pirro's meeting with Trump, which they interpret as a humiliating setup, highlighting the peril of being Trump's lawyer and the lack of loyalty in his orbit. They then analyze the Michigan primary, where El-Sayed's rise signals a leftward shift in Democratic energy, with Scott attributing this to young voters rejecting perceived cronyism over true capitalism. They also condemn House Ethics actions against Edwards and the ongoing allegations against Miller, calling for stronger accountability. The episode concludes with announcements about the show's summer break and upcoming mail bag episodes, while emphasizing the need for Democrats to adapt to changing political dynamics and the importance of midterms as a backstop against Trump's agenda.
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Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche is likely to be confirmed in the roll-body end of the week after today's Senate Judiciary Committee vote. In a joint statement yesterday, Senator Cornyn and Taylor Stank Blanche were addressing their concerns around the anti-weaponization fund and Trump's IRS audit deal. Critics, however, aren't so sure the statements Blanche put forth actually do what he claims, especially with the audit immunity document not being signed. Here's Senator Taylor speaking this morning during the committee meeting. Everybody has this view of they are as pure as the driven snow, and it's the other side that has a problem. I think we both have a problem, folks. If you want to talk about weaponization, take a look at the Biden administration. The bottom line is nobody is clean here. And until we start recognizing this behavior is bad, we're just going to want up it. Maybe it's a little bit more intense in this administration than the last one. And that a little bit more intense than the prior administration and so on and so forth. But folks, we've got to end this stuff. We do. I'm going to support Mr. Blanche's nomination. Maybe it's a little bit more intense. And it's a little bit more intense. Just to scowse more intense is my president's personal lawyer being ahead of DOJ. Showing up before I am at the NSA, former advisor's house after they've should posted you on Fox. Yeah, no, it's going after former Olympians with Trumped up, Trumped up accusations accusing sitting senators of sedition, just just to scowse. Just a tiny bit, what do you make of this, Jess? Disappointing, but part for the course. There are no heroes left, at least none of them that are sitting in the Senate or in Congress anymore. There are folks like Jeff Flake who just endorsed Jon Ossoff in his race, you know, someone who I think lives by the never Trump moniker, you know, who could go work at the bull worker, the dispatch or one of those places. But all of the ones who are still representatives and part of the Republican Party are rubber stamps for this guy. And I think as someone who enjoys the idea of bipartisanship and thinking about what we can do when we work together, and there are things like the bipartisan housing bill, for instance, that Elizabeth Warren captained and got 86 votes or something like that. Like those things can still happen, but when it comes to these confirmations and it would come to the stuff that Trump really cares about, they are always going to be the worst possible versions of themselves, and Democrats have to act like that's the case. There were so many clips that we could have picked from, but I also wanted to call out that Senator Kornin, who was the other holdout on this, at least for, you know, a few days, said in a press gaggle after they voted to advance the nomination, there's nothing we can do to reign in the president. - Well, there's nothing we could do to reign in the president when he said he likes the fund, and he wishes it still exists, but the fact of the matter is dead. And that's all we could do under these circumstances. - So if that's the attitude, then we have to do everything in our power to reign him in and stop these people from utterly decimating our government, our institutions, American way of life. However you want to bundle it, I guess. The idea that the rule of law is becoming an unenforceable idea is so dangerous. And Todd Blanche is a very slick package that this is coming in with, but he has given us a preview already. I think the image of him sitting with Gleene Maxwell for nine hours and then her getting transferred to that cushy prison, I don't know if the idea of a pardon for her comes back or not, should stick with everyone. That's who he's on the side of. And dangerous roads ahead and the midterms just became even more important. We need a backstop certainly in the house and in the Senate if we can get to it. - Yeah, I think there's a couple of things here. There's more than anyone. The courts are the only remaining backstop. And they have in certain instances put the president or kept him in check, especially on accusations of election interference or selective prosecution or accusing a sitting member of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors of Mortgage Fraud when there's no there, there. The courts have been enforcing the law or at least what I would argue though is that the problem we have is that in very goldwater outline this 50 years ago, we have taken for granted that a set of norms would be enough that of course the president wouldn't send his sons overseas to make deals with the Gulf to sell them advanced AI chips and exchange her commitments to invest in their businesses. Like we just made this assumption that that would never happen and slowly but surely we have transferred more and more power to the executive branch. And so when the president does away with the enforcement division of the SEC that looks at crypto fraud, it's actually what he did is not illegal and it should be illegal. I do think that with a law it still has teeth and purchase the courts have actually done a pretty good job and unfortunately the president's not afraid to pursue baseless lawsuits to intimidate people and unfortunately it's effective. But I think what we need to do structurally is really look at the power that's been seated to the executive branch and say well, we have for too long assumed that no president would actually do this and one is and the reality is a lot of his most egregious or what people would find most distasteful and they think oh my god, that must be illegal. Actually a lot of this stuff is not under legal scrutiny, technically illegal. It's just we can't believe the president would actually do it. So I think there's a, I think there's a couple, I think we're gonna need to really look hard more co-equal branches of government. And that has passed new laws to say a president can get rid of departments that are inconvenient for him without a certain hurdle rate. Maybe it's two thirds of car. I don't know what it is, but we're going to need just as I think we need to reestablish a tax code that recognizes the flow of power and capital from workers and consumers to shareholders that the rivers, those rivers need to reverse, that there needs to be a reallocation or a flow back of capital or power and advantage from shareholders to labor and to consumers. We need absolutely to look at the flow of power unchecked power that has melted from Congress and from the Supreme Court to the president. The other thing, I mean, you can't pass a lot around this, but these folks should give these speeches after their votes. They want credit, they want to say, well, I'm a thoughtful guy and I'm brave and I look at the merits of this and I'm concerned. Now, give your speech and your rationale after you make the vote, we know you're going to make. Be careful.
Because again, I can't stand, and I think I do think voters remember that Susan Collins cast the deciding vote to basically flip the court to a conservative majority that was clearly going to overturn Roe v. Wade despite all of them claiming it was established precedent and they weren't going to get there. They were lying. During their confirmation hearings, I believe in Senator Collins wanted to pretend that she was concerned, and these guys all do the same thing. They want credit for saying, "Okay, I see the concern here. Give us your speech and your rationale after the vote," because it's just so predictable that they're looking for a TikTok moment. They're looking to be seen as bipartisan or as leaders. Your speech to CNN outside your office means very little. It's the vote. Everyone should be interviewed, and if they have balls, they'll say, "This is why I voted the way I voted, ultimately." I'm all for lowering the amount of grandstanding. It's a waste of all of our times, and very rarely is there someone who's actually on the fence or looking to get an answer out of the committee hearing most of the time, they need those promises in an office. You hold them in and say, "You've got to change X, Y, or Z thing," and then we've got a deal. That's a moment for us. It's for social media. That's why you need to get campaign finance reform because they use them for fundraising because you need to have millions of dollars in your war chest if you're going to be able to defend your seat just two years later in a constant state of campaigning. I would like that. I would also just like better people in office. I don't know what the trick is for that. We've talked about raising pay levels to attract higher quality folks who would do well in the private sector, don't have generational wells, make it easy for them to take a job that pays you $174,000 a year to support a family on that, for instance. I think we have to explore all of these avenues. What's really sitting with me today, looking at what Tillis and Kornin have done, and the rest of them who, frankly, were ready to rubber stamp Todd Blanche, even before he even pretended like he was going to get rid of the weaponization fund or get knocked of the Trump family immunity from IRS audits, is that you've got a morally bankrupt group of people on the other side of the aisle right now, and we have to, this is like guerrilla warfare at this point, and we need folks that understand that fight, and we're going to talk about the Michigan primary, which is today in a little bit, and you've been saying this for the last few months, that that kind of energy, that kind of, it's us against the world energy, is coming from the progressive left right now, and that it's not what the moderates or the establishment wing of the party is offering, say, for like a John Ossoff, for instance, is not meeting the moment, because the voters recognize the existential threat before the grandstanders. They made have been doing it for, you know, their cable news moment or during one of these hearings, but the folks on the ground, if you look at, you know, what they're saying when they show up at town hall meetings, for instance, they have understood the five alarm fire from day one. They read Project 2025, they knew what was coming, and Todd Blanche is going to execute everything that they had hoped for and more. I was looking around to see what will change, what, you know, what can we expect from a Todd Blanche AG department with him on top of the DOJ. So more targeting of critics, which you brought up, the Epstein files, if you saw it, any more of them we're going to get sunlight, definitely not happening now. The survivors, I don't think they'd even actually want to sit down with him again, because he was so rude and, you know, checking his watch, trying to get out of there, but there will be no justice for these brave, brave victims, more executive immunity to the tilt, right. Whatever the Supreme Court was willing to give you, and then they're going to work around to make sure that he gets even more abortion access, which has already been extremely limited by the DOBS decision, it's going to get worse. What will happen with Mr. Pristone, if he gets his way, got telehealth prescriptions, for instance, cut down on threatening doctors who perform abortion services. Todd Blanche has also shown a willingness to go back to the 2016 election. We're not even talking about 2020, which Trump is obsessed with. He wants to look back at Russian interference and how all of that was handled. The beginning of the weaponization, if you asked Tom Tellis, and then I'm sure that we're going to be seeing more folks creeping around Fulton County, like Tulsi Gabbard was before she got unceremoniously pushed out for the new DNI, well, I guess it was Bill Polty, and now it's Jay Clayton. I think it's going to be really ugly. It's going to be near constant running of their greatest hits, because they have nothing new to say, because they can't confront the reality of today. I think Todd Blanche is a very dangerous, dangerous character. Just going back, this is what I'm fairly certain, or I would speculate, happened with Senator's Kornin and Tellis, and that is they're both out of office, right? They've lost their primaries, they're gone. Senator Kornin's net worth is estimated to be about one and a half million dollars. He's an old dude. He probably wants to live his next 20 years comfortably. He'd probably like to leave some money to his kids. He'd probably like to have, I mean, that may sound like a lot of money to the average American, but a guy who sees himself as a powerful master of the universe, this is what I think happened. Trump called him in, or different people, from UnTrump's orbit, called him in and said, "Do you want to make money after you leave office or not?" That's what I would do. I can put you on three corporate boards. I can get you all sorts of goodies, or you can be a pariah. No Democrat's going to help you out. I'll call my buddies. I can get you on a bunch of boards. I can make you a special advisor to choose social, whatever the fuck it is, and the problem here in terms of structural form. We need sunshine loss. These are important people. The majority of them work very hard. I think the majority of them are actually high character people. It's the incentives that are all fucked up because we should go to Singapore model. Any member of the house should make a million bucks a year. I think senators should make three million bucks a year. I think the president should make 10 million bucks a year in exchange for the following. Zero tolerance around any of this bullshit around insider trading. Every person, if you run for office, it means it's going into a blind trust, which you have no visibility into, you or your family. Once you leave office, there's a four-year sunshine period where you can't accept speaking payments, book fees. You can do all of these things. You just can't take money. You can't go on corporate boards, because who's going to do that? Well, I think we should. If you paid them enough, I'm not saying. Oh, on the front end. I'm just saying. You know, writing a bunch of horrors. If you're not getting paid. Yes. As someone who's just recording a book, but this is the Singapore model. Stop monetizing your office. I'm almost entirely sure they said the corner and they tell us, "Do you want to make no money after you leave this November or do you want to make five to 10 million bucks a year?" I can do that for you. But stop this bullshit around. They'll hold out of. If you need your pound of flesh to pretend like you're concerned and you're a leader, fine, make all the speeches you want. But if you want to go on the board of X, Y, and Z, energy companies where the CEO loves the regulatory capture I've provided him, the president has enormous power to make someone give someone other. And with three calls, he could get Senator Tillis another five to 10 million dollars a year for the next 10 years. Or not. Or say, "I'll make it such that no one ever hires you for anything." So we need to change the incentives that these people should make more money. And in exchange, we need to do away with the back room incentives that I believe are taking place post office. These people don't want to. I mean, wouldn't it be great if they were just happy to live in their two bedroom houses and they don't really care? Like the rest of us, they want a nice life. They want. They want to make money. And it was. I think the back room deal that's happened is very mundane. You want to be on these three boards when you leave office, or you want to be pariah to both the Democrats and the Republicans. Your call let me know what you decide. And I think they decide that before he leaves the meeting. Support for the show comes from Skylight. Family schedules have a way of getting complicated fast. Between work, school, sports, appointments, and social plans. Keeping everyone coordinated isn't easy. Skylight brings everyone together in one shared calendar, making it simple for the whole family to stay in sick. It's an all-in-one digital smart calendar that syncs seamlessly with Google Calendar, Apple Calendar, Outlook, and more, giving you customizable views for daily, weekly, or monthly planning. I have been using my Skylight frame for months now, and it is a total game changer. My nuclear family, we're all coordinated, so my husband and I, and we use different interfaces. He's on Google. I'm on Outlook. 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Moving on in other justice news, US Attorney Jeanine Piro, Justice colleague, Metwith or former colleague, met with Donald Trump yesterday after the president said she choked in her handling of the Reflecting Pull Vandalism case. She was seen leaving the White House with a box and briefcase afterwards. I realize you have to be somewhat measured here because this is a former colleague. You go ahead. Sure. First off, say what you want about Ms. Piro. She's not fucking stupid. This is the bottom line. She's decided loyalty to the president, proximity to power, not being embarrassed, not being shamed, having the producers at Fox go ape shit crazy about how to describe their former colleague. I mean, they must be freaking out about how to spend this one. But she did the math and she she she's read the same thing I'm going to read to you right now. Let's do where are they now? Trump's lawyers edition. Roy Cohn, his first lawyer, disbarred dead Michael Cohn, disbarred, pleaded guilty to tax campaign, false statement crimes, Rudy Giuliani, disbarred in New York and DC, 150 million in defamation damages. Alina Haba sanctioned $1 million for frivolous litigation. Boris, I believe it's Epstein, pending Arizona criminal charges in fake electoral case. John Eastman, disbarred in California and suspended in DC, Arizona criminal case pending. Kenneth Chesbro, disbarred in New York, pleaded guilty in Georgia case pending. She's decided that for short term praise from the president and or Fox, it's not worth being disbarred and potentially going to jail and and going down as another Chernobyl victim. I mean, she just did the math and she said this is going to be ugly, but I would rather not be disbarred and hauled in front of a judge 12 months after he's totally forgotten about me and doesn't return my calls. In Vietnam, the via Congress told anyone with two metal bars on the helmet. I'm sure military historians will correct me here. They'd say kill the second lieutenant first, kill the platoon leader first. And so they stopped wearing insignias and marks that would identify them. If you're if you're a quote unquote, the lawyer for Trump, you are second lieutenant marching around waiting to be shot in the head. This is there are few jobs more dangerous than being Trump's lawyer. And in addition, the other observation, she was absolutely set up to be humiliated. They clearly, they clearly staged a photograph or alerted photographers. They gave her a box. They gave and said, walk out and they made sure photographers were there to humiliate her, which I find really, really to give you a sense of this guy's loyalty. I mean, just let me, I never miss an opportunity to virtue signal. Whenever you fire somebody, the way you fire them is when you do a crisply. This isn't working out. We, you know, this is why we're letting you go. We can argue about it, but what we want to talk about is how we're going to help you moving forward. And I find you repacious about the decision, but you're always exceptionally generous. And you try to, you know, you try to make it even if the person is angry or upset. Then when they look back on it, they think that this person was, I might have disagreed with them, but they were generous. And this on the whole was a good experience for me. This guy just is, oh, maybe I can turn the, maybe I can, maybe your humiliation can be my, you know, my temporary like, you know, temporary advantage. I mean, he's just so just such a lack of loyalty or grace around quite frankly, how he deals with people he disagrees with or intelligence because she saved him from a courtroom humiliation herself as well. But that's where they were destined to be going. They claim that they had this video that did not exist. There is no way for 67-year-old iconic canoeist David Hurn to have gotten into the middle of the reflecting pool, which is where the damage started. And, you know, people are trying to, you know, grasping at straws. Oh, he shouldn't have even picked up the piece of the pool that was floating. Like, who gives a fuck, right? Like, it doesn't matter. And to add insult to injury, they drop the cases against three other people who were accused of vandalism. They're just cut and running, right? From this entire story. And Donald Trump can't see even one foot ahead to say, OK, we don't have to waste the time and resources and public humiliation to go through a court process that probably would have been better, frankly, if it just been thrown out by grand jury. But, you know, this isn't the kind of work that I'm sure Jenine wants to be focused on. She wants to be, you know, working with Mary old Bowser to bring down crime or she wants to be prosecuting the horrific anti-Semitic murders of the young Jewish couple outside of the museum from last year, like subway sandwiches and fake charges of vandalism. You know, I haven't spoken her about it, but I imagine that that's not what really gets her going when she wakes up in the morning. And he has no loyalty, at least in what he's willing to do to you in terms of the public humiliation didn't fire her. She didn't offer her resignation. And he didn't fire her. They go back decades and decades have, you know, a very close relationship. And I imagine, frankly, that he wouldn't ever do that. It takes a lot for him to get to the point that he let's go of someone. And even with Kristie, no, he found what does she do? The like shields of America or whatever she got another job? Yeah, but the bar is much lower for women in terms of his willingness to far people. Or to find you an exit. Yes, the women and children first is the Trump way, but like in the bad way, not in the like the good they get in the boats to get off the Titanic. The Billy's in, it'll behave in that context. It just sucks. And it's so embarrassing. And these kinds of stories also are not just our infotainment. The rest of the world knows that this is going on. You know, Donald Trump is doing press briefings and is saying stuff like Jeanne choked. You know, we're in the middle of a war that he has no control over. Americans are starving. Their snap benefits have been cut. You know, farmers need a bailout every month, essentially, because of what's gone on with tariffs and in the economy. And he's boring us with this shit, essentially at this point. So I think it's just a generally embarrassing debacle. And I'm sure more is to come. And I don't know what her relationship with Todd Blanche is like, but if he is going to be someone who takes up the bill, Poulty, you know, Pambondi, kind of mantle saying, let's go after everybody who, you know, posted a mean tweet about me, I think it's going to be more and more headaches. And I don't know if that's worthwhile for her or for anyone. I just, you know, people say, well, what are you supposed to do? I think you're supposed to quit. I think you're supposed to walk away from this. And I understand that there is something to you've got to stay and you've got to fight. And we need to protect these institutions. But you have someone that can't be reined in Allah, Senator Kornin. And he's going to tell you, no, no, no, I don't want you to be doing this actual work. I want you to be focused on a guy with a Hogi and a canoeist who picked up a little piece of the lining that was already loose. Like, that's a waste of everybody's time. Yeah, I wonder if it's strategic. I mean,
Again, if it's another weapon of mass distraction, then probably the more important thing happening today is the much anticipated Michigan primary election. And the race for the Democratic primary for Senate has become a bit of a proxy for where the Democratic party, or at least where the energy is in the Democratic party. Progressive Abdul Al-Sahia, backed by Bernie Sanders and ALC, is favored to be the establishment pick Haley Stevens, who has Governor Whitmer, Senator Schimmer, and outgoing Senator Gary Peters in her corner. If al-Sahia wins, it can be the biggest establishment to feed of the primary season so far. It sounds like the race is effectively over. Kowshi has al-Sahia victory at 98% likelihood here. It's really fascinating. This race was much closer just a few weeks ago. You're the kind of resident pollster here. What do you make of this race? - Well, I want to start with a bit of a maya colpa, because I don't think that my commentary on the race for the past few weeks has frankly been up to snuff. - Just you're from Fox, double down, no matter ridiculously fucking stupid your past comments have been. Just double down. - Oh, I don't know if that was an option. - I just think that I was unfair to his campaign and what he had been building. And I think that I was focused on maybe the signs of a successful campaign more of the past than what we're dealing with in the present. And looking at, you know, Haley Stevens's support of the black community, black voters, the backbone of the Democratic Party, especially black women. And it seems like now from what I've been looking at the last seven to 10 days that Al-Sahia has really built something special that can be multi-generational, multi-racial coalition. We'll see what happens. Obviously, you know, all that matters is what the votes actually say. And Michigan can be slow for results to come in. If it is close, which right now the polling doesn't look like it will be, that it could be even, you know, 10 plus points spread, it could go into tomorrow morning. But this is a really big test case for what the future of the Democratic Party looks like because Haley Stevens appropriately has said that if she loses, she's going to endorse and get to work right away. The most important thing is endorsing mic Rogers. Al-Sahia is less enthusiastic about saying that in reverse Mallory McMarrow, who was the candidate that I liked in this race originally who dropped out a month or so ago has said that she's going to be at whoever the winners is at their party tonight because the coalition of Democrats, the big tent as it were, is the most important part of this. But I am bracing for a new day in Democratic politics. And, you know, he is not the most extreme progressive. He's not like Chevrolet here in Harlem. You know, this guy who's not part of the DSA, he identifies as a capitalist. He is four things like Medicare for all, tax the billionaires, et cetera, but it is a modified version of the far left platform. And I still have enormous questions about whether that can win in a general election. This should be a very blue environment. So a much better chance of that happening. But Mike Rogers lost by only 19,000 votes to Alyssa Slokkin, who was like a maid and a lab candidate for a state like Michigan. And so I'm concerned about that. But being self-reflective, I'm about how I view these inter-party conflicts and how we can actually shape this bigger tent to be successful, you know, how Kathy Hocal reframed how she thought about Mom Donnie to focus on the things that she could work with him on and draw the lines where she needed to. And I think that establishment Democrats are going to have to do that all over the country. If it proves that these candidates can win statewide and it could happen in Wisconsin as well with Francesca Hong, who I do not think is nearly as talented as Al Sayed. And I would hate to lose that governor's mansion. And she's much to the left of him. But that's my man called, but it wasn't that bad, right? It wasn't that much self-legileation. No, you're being thoughtful, which is infinitely more female than male. I'm just not used to hearing it. Look, I've heard from-- I've had two hour-long conversations with entrepreneurs yesterday. They don't even know that well. Bussy, one is a kid in his late 20s who's got an AI company who's raising money at a $10 billion valuation. And you want to call-- he wants some advice on some issues around fundraising and scaling. And I made a point of saying to him, a lot of your success is not your fault. Be really careful. When I was your age, I used to think that all my success was a function of just how fucking awesome I was, not registering my blessings being born, a straight white male in the '60s and coming up during the age of the internet. Just gale force wins in my sales. And I didn't have the presence to realize just how much-- again, my success was in my fault. Later in the afternoon, I talked to another kid, who's raised $200 million, who was all the rage, a unicorn, and he's about to shut his business down. And this kid is just in a state of despair. And I said, you also got to recognize market dynamics, Trump individual performance. And that is a lot of your failure is in your fault. I can look at both these people and say, one dude should not be nearly as confident as he is right now. And one should not be nearly as hard on himself as he's being right now. And when I look at El Sayed, I'm not saying around a good or bad campaign, but the reality is the more interesting thing about this race is the pattern that the bottom line is the center of gravity is shifting. I won't say how shifted, but a shifting in the Democratic Party and the reality is the DSA, the Socialists, whatever you want to call it, have all the RIS, the dynamism, and the creativity right now. And what Democrats have to wrestle with into a larger extent, the country, is that when anyone under the age of 40 has seen cronism masquerading as capitalism, of course they don't endorse capitalism. I think we have to do a much better job of saying what you've experienced at the hands of both Democrats and Republicans is regulatory capture, cronism, transferring money from your generation to my generation. And this is not capitalism, capitalism works. Capitalism, when you reinvest in the middle class, when you have aggressive tax rate, it's the least bad system of its kind. It's brought more people out of poverty, it's created more prosperity, it's created more revenue for social services and the ability to fund a military to push back on fascism, the ability to embrace civil rights, women's rights, I'm still going all in on capitalism. But what people have endured the last 40 years is not capitalism, it's cronism, and it's entirely understandable how they're saying, we've been sold a fucking bill of goods. And if you want to call it capitalism and fine, I don't want capitalism, call it socialism, call it whatever the fuck you want. I just know that what you claim as capitalism isn't working and to their credit, the DSA has produced a series of super attractive, super compelling candidates. And the Democratic Party has to realize that this won't be an isolated upset. It's a pattern. And what's really interesting is that Stevens has the institutional wall behind her, Whitmer, Schumer, Peters. And you know what, it doesn't matter. The party's own turnout machine can't save its chosen candidate in a state it needs to hold the Senate. And that's, you know, there really needs to be some soul searching here. I still think the Democrats are the party of democracy, which counts for something. But to say that we have, you know, we're capitalists and to accuse the far left of socialism that doesn't work, it's like, well, folks, the brand of capitalism we've been preaching and have been offering, taxes went down during the Biden administration. Regulatory capture went up during Democratic administrations. We have engaged in a slow burn from capitalism to cronism and we're shocked, the young people aren't up for more of this quote-on-quote, and I'll use our quotes, capitalism. So just as I think in, in Maine, that the atmospherics there around a very aging politician who has, you know, claimed in a very, you know, a fairly like purple, maybe blue state that she cares about women but gave the deciding vote, I think the atmospherics there is as long as the guy has chest hair and hasn't raped anybody, I think we're going to take that seat. I think the atmospherics are definitely on our side. In a place like Michigan with an establishment candidate that has taken money, more money from APAC than I think any other candidate in the race, she's fucked. I don't care how good she is. I don't care how good her campaign is and how bad his campaign is. The atmospherics, a lot of her failures, not her fault and a lot of his success is not his fault. The atmospherics is the party brand, the institutional brand of democratic politics right now is not working for the average American and especially young people. So they're like, okay, I get your concerns. Oh, I hear these stories of lore about capitalism and how it works. Well, folks, it hasn't worked for me. So this is, I think, I mean, our party leadership needs to change. We need to actually have the music match the words around reinvesting in the middle class and a progressive tax structure, but this is entirely, in my opinion.
But this really does speak to the atmospherics around how the center of gravity is shifting. This isn't about a race. This is about a shifting of the atmospherics. Your thoughts? Yeah. A big own goal for the establishment. This will be really embarrassing for Chuck Schumer and there was some reporting also that Kirsten Gillibrand had described Mallory McMarrow as being the DSA, which she absolutely is not and might have been that candidate that was a blend of, you know, new age call it. Was reading the room. So the Democrats was reading the room and adapted. She adapted her position on Israel. She adapted her position on APAC because those are becoming salient issues in the electorate. I hope that you're right about the atmospherics being able to propel candidates to wins. Because that's how we can get shit done and try to blunt some of the damage of the Trump administration. I like the early ads that I've seen from Troy Jackson. There is a report that his partner is his second cousin, which I don't particularly love. Oh my God. Sorry. Never underestimate our ability to snatch the fee from the jaws of victory. And he's taken to calling Susan Collins Susan, which I think is so devilish and good. You know, making her just a regular Susan, you know, like a Karen, but anyway, I just wanted to throw that in there that that exists in the ether like we can't have nice things. We can't just have someone who's like married to his college sweetheart. I would argue that's a speeding ticket versus what the Republicans have acquitted itself. And there's no Nazi tattoos and there's no rape accusation. It's all consensual disclaimer on the Michigan primary before we move on. Obviously, it all comes down to turn out Stevens is going to should have an advantage on mail in votes. I'll say I had very strong day of the question will be how fierce her support in the black community is. It's about 15% of the electorate in Michigan. 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Back in Washington, the House Ethics Committee is recommending that representative chuck Edwards be censured, finding substantial reason to believe he violated the House Code of official contact through a pattern of unwanted advances and inappropriate conduct toward two young female staffers. What do you make of this, especially in the context of the Platinum scandal and the ongoing accusations against representative Max Miller, who is continuing to pursue reelection? Yeah. I don't like it. Apparently these lavish and recurrent gifts, including jewelry, totaling over $1,000, designer per se's guns, nothing says romance like gifting a gun. Shoes, flowers, a laptop, and cell phone, a kitchen aid mixer, actually need a mixer, vacations in one-on-one dinners, but it's not good, but it doesn't also seem like he's the guy you should be focusing your attention on. If this doesn't make way for Corey Mills and Max Miller to be kicked out of Congress, I don't know where we're going to go with this. Max Miller's story is getting so much worse by the day. The guy is a complete nightmare, and there have been several more interviews with Republican representatives that are dancing around this. Don't dance, take it, head on. You can't have a stain like this in Congress, and it has to go before a trial, obviously, but when you look at Max Miller's rap sheet of accusations, how many women has come from how this has existed from high school up until today? Stephanie Grisham had also taken a restraining order out against him. Why do you want this guy in your club? That's the question here, and I know it went on for too long with Graham Platner and Maya Copa about that, too, but this is not a good person, and he certainly is in someone who should have one of the most important jobs that we have in the country. There are only 435 of them. That is rarefied air. This guy is a monster. Yeah, I think it's important, though, again, I think you're being hard on yourself. It's one thing, okay, we need to have the ability to discern between sending women food processors and gifts, which is inappropriate, that's inappropriate, right? That might, censure might be the right action and then let voters decide, right? Having a basically a Nazi tattoo while you're in the military, having a Republican operative say you were physical with her during the campaign, all right, that's bad, but I would argue the Democrats got it right when a credible accusation and anyone who saw the video of his former girlfriend Amelia goes, she's telling the truth, and he was out. And then, going to the far side of the spectrum, incredible evidence that you broke a two-year-old's collarbone, and all just sorts of evidence everywhere, data point, after data point, after data point, that you are an abusive, violent person, that's, I mean, there's a speeding ticket, there's breaking and entering, and there's homicide. We can discern between these infractions, and my sense is the three, we're supposed to be able to understand some nuance here and recognize that one of these things or all of these things are not like the other. So again, the fact that I kind of love the story for Democratic messaging, all right, this is, did we go too long in our support and ignoring certain data points around Grand Platinum? Sure, that is nothing compared to the delay in obfuscation in the gymnastics. The Republicans are trying to do around someone who is clearly, clearly a psychopath and has no regard for women, no regard for his wife, no regard for children and his violent. And what I don't get just strategically, if I'm a Republican, I think this guy is gone. Even if they're willing to elect someone who's been found civilly liable of sexual abuse, make that person president, even that party is going to come to grips with this and kick him out. So I don't understand why, if this guy is walking the green mile, why they continue to support the guy or trying to lay an obfuscate, and just we mentioned our last episode, but I think it bears repeating. I think Margaret Brennan put on a master class when this guy, when I forget the representative claim that this shouldn't be something litigated in a TV studio. Oh, okay. Yeah, the media should absolutely not be covering this. I found that just hilarious. You can be on the right side of history or not. That is always an option if someone broke a child's collarbone. It is very clear what side of history he is going to be on. And I know he has tons of black male on people, but this is a known story. George Santos even called him a woman beater years ago. George Santos, one of the funniest characters to have come through Congress for sure. Like just get with it at this point and it looks like you're going to lose the seat anyway. might as well go out with your morals slightly.
It's interesting. I didn't know the professional volleyball player, George Santos, had weighed in against Max Miller before. Anyways, let's leave it there, Jess. Before we go, a quick programming note, the Raging Moderates team is taking a little summer break here at Prodigy Media where we've gone a little bit European. I take August off and I like to give at least one weekend an August off out to the team off to the team because that's the kind of guy I am one weekend. No, but we're actually there's quite, there'll be quite a bit of vacation this August and I hope all of you listeners have the resources and ability to take some time off. So we'll be off this Thursday and next Thursday. But next week, Jess and I will tackle some of your questions in our summer mail bag episodes. So don't miss that. We'll be back with regular episodes on Monday, August 17th. I'm going to be out for the rest of the month. So congratulations to you all. Around here we call it Scott Free August. Jess has a bunch of really great guest hosts lined up while I'm away. So I'm is going to be a nice palette cleanser, but we have some great great co-hosts showing up in August. Anyways, thanks very much for tuning in. Jess, have a great rest of the week. Apple News Plus has everything you're into all in one place. Over 500 publications covering the topics that matter most to you. Thousands of recipes from celebrated food publications around the world. Local news from all 50 states. Sports coverage from across the globe. Audio stories, you can take anywhere. And Daily Puzzles exclusive to Apple News Plus. All of it curated just for you. New subscribers try it free for one month at news.apple/learn. Terms apply. Support for the show comes from Delta Airlines. Every athlete at the top of her game knows that greatness isn't just a destination. It's a grueling life-long journey. It's built on early mornings silent sacrifices and an unwavering drive to outclimb the achievements of yesterday. That is the journey of a WNBA athlete and Delta is there every step of the way. Delta is proud to host these competitors providing charter flights for every WNBA team to elevate their travel experience and champion equity on every leg of their trip. Keep climbing with Delta Airlines, the official airline of the WNBA. Support for the show comes from Core Weave. Every where you look, AI is expanding what we thought was possible and at the center of it all is Core Weave. Medical research and diagnosis, education, complex visual effects for movies, science and technology breakthroughs. Core Weave powers AI pioneers around the world with purpose-built tech, building what's never been built before. Core Weave is the essential cloud for AI, ready for anything, ready for AI. To learn more about how Core Weave powers the world's best AI, go to coreweave.com/readyforanything.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche is likely to be confirmed despite concerns over the anti-weaponization fund and Trump's IRS audit deal, with critics arguing his statements don't resolve issues.
Senators Cornyn and Tillis advanced Blanche's nomination, but their resignation about inability to rein in the president highlights broader concerns about executive power and erosion of rule of law.
US Attorney Jeanine Pirro met with Trump after criticism over the Reflecting Pool vandalism case, with speculation she faced humiliation and potential exit, reflecting the dangerous role of Trump's associates.
The Michigan Democratic Senate primary features progressive Abdul El-Sayed favored over establishment pick Haley Stevens, indicating a shift in party energy toward the left.
House Ethics Committee recommends censuring Rep. Chuck Edwards for misconduct toward staffers, while Rep. Max Miller faces ongoing abuse allegations, drawing comparisons to past scandals.
Scott and Jess discuss structural fixes like higher pay for officials and sunshine laws to reduce post-office incentives, and note the show's upcoming summer break.
Summary:
The hosts, Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov, begin by discussing the likely confirmation of Todd Blanche as Attorney General, criticizing Republican senators like Cornyn and Tillis for rubber-stamping a nominee tied to Trump's legal interests, including immunity deals and weaponization concerns. They argue the courts are the last backstop against executive overreach, but norms have eroded, necessitating structural reforms like higher official pay and restrictions on post-office monetization. The conversation shifts to Jeanine Pirro's meeting with Trump, which they interpret as a humiliating setup, highlighting the peril of being Trump's lawyer and the lack of loyalty in his orbit.
They then analyze the Michigan primary, where El-Sayed's rise signals a leftward shift in Democratic energy, with Scott attributing this to young voters rejecting perceived cronyism over true capitalism. They also condemn House Ethics actions against Edwards and the ongoing allegations against Miller, calling for stronger accountability. The episode concludes with announcements about the show's summer break and upcoming mail bag episodes, while emphasizing the need for Democrats to adapt to changing political dynamics and the importance of midterms as a backstop against Trump's agenda.
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Todd Blanche is the Acting Attorney General nominee. His nomination is controversial due to concerns about his handling of the anti-weaponization fund and Trump's IRS audit immunity, with critics doubting his stated commitments.
The hosts speculated that Cornyn and Tillis, who are leaving office, may have been influenced by potential post-office financial benefits, such as corporate board positions, offered by Trump's orbit in exchange for their support.
Jeanine Pirro met with Trump after he criticized her handling of the Reflecting Pool vandalism case, and she was seen leaving with a box and briefcase, suggesting her departure. The hosts argued she was set up for public humiliation.
The Michigan primary is a proxy for the party's direction, with progressive Abdul El-Sayed favored over establishment candidate Haley Stevens. A win for El-Sayed would signal a shift in the party's center of gravity toward progressives.
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