Blake Griffin Doesn't Stop for Anyone (feat. Joe Mande)

Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out brought to you by AppleCard. I am Pablo Torre and today we're going to find out what this sound is the power forward has excellent vision forward but not so much in the periphery right after this. At some point I think you started following our show on Instagram and we were excited because I never know who from the clipper is alumni network and hates us and who kind of appreciates what we're at least attempting doing our best to do yeah and you turned out to be somebody who is thoughtful in ways that I find not just endearing but now as in this show you're making a guy I actually want to hear from yeah you know it's funny is I I one of the posts about the clippers that you know I like the posts and so it's more about you spent your time on this you did this and then some of course people saw the like and they're like the flip flip group and like clippers fans I get no joy in like seeing this happen the clippers I for one thing the people I feel the most bad for our clipper fans yes because they didn't do with they've just they've been nothing but loyal and I still live in L.A. I got run into clippers fans all the time they're the best like some of the most loyal fans all sports find me a franchise dude where they there's been that many downs and I've been a part of those downs I'm not putting down the franchise I unfortunately have caused some down I am a down I'm a downer but like I had Donald Sterling as an owner and he was one of the worst and notoriously cheap and now you have guys like I'll pay more but like I take zero delight in seeing the clippers not be where they should be the number one thing I've always wanted to make clear to your point is that I'm not trying to use clipper fans suffering for like whatever resembles my own personal success it is one of the worst mathematical formulas actually would be to look around believe and say aha clippers fans yeah those will be where the clicks are yeah yeah yeah you know it and so there is punching down that I'm sort of like self conscious about I never want to be about these people who are spending harder money at a time when everything's more expensive and use them as the punch line it's never about the fan being the punch line even as a retired athlete like looking back like the only reason we make as much money as we make or the guys that are making money now it is fan driven and they're engaging actively engaging not only in watching and going to games but even just the discourse online and how much traffic how many eyeballs touch every sports topic so I don't know I think it's fascinating because I think there's so there's enough shows that a reaction area like hey what happened last night that's why I wanted to do something like in this avenue I do appreciate the shout out you gave me yeah that's why I wanted to reach out and be like hey you never know how people are going to take something but I'm like I want you to know this is this actually is out of respect this isn't out of like you know ask me for my permission when it came to stop roast alky's talking about how that filipino is you know what I guess I'll just have to take these scoops the Pablo Tory yeah I'm pretty sure he scoops his own scoops man come on man that filipino wouldn't even know who Uncle Dennis was without me that was his pitch by the way he love he was like I was I was texting stop today I'm just glad your cameo with Blake arrives in time for filipino American history month which October is and his response is wow they'll give anyone a month these days one of the things that I did by the way I'm preparing to talk to you today is consult some of our mutual friends that I don't even know that you know that we have but one of them is Neil Brennan oh yeah and Neil for those who don't know not only a fellow podcaster but one of the great comedy writers ever co wrote Chappell show look up on IMDB Neil will love it if you do that but he said quote you guys have something in common you were both underestimated by Steve bomber I mean that's by the way that is just like the perfect snapshot of like you just text somebody like oh I'm going in and like you get that joke back and you like God that was why didn't I think of that God so good so good and truly for people who don't know what that is about how could you have been underestimated by the owner of the team what happened I don't know I mean under estimate I don't know I mean I feel like if you'd ask Clipper fans it would probably be like hey made the right decision you know I mean I think just the way the way things ended there I wish I could change a couple things about it that's what Chris Paul and then DeAndre and I and I think like JJ and Jamal and these guys that were there for like the lob city era like sure we did not win a championship we didn't accomplish that ultimate goal but I do think we look back on it with like a sense of pride I am mindful of the ways in which I am tempting you to answer questions like you're at a press conference yeah I got you and I'm sorry it's all good it's all good but one of the funniest clips of all time is right after the trade happens I just got to explain to people you were called a Clipper for life yeah my jersey retirements the ceremony during my free agency meeting you had the shirt yeah the shirt Pioneer Pioneer I mean do you have that shirt still Jared Stacey who's runs the Amazon Prime Amazon sports in our first seminar last year before we started the NBA on Prime he does his whole speech about you know we are pioneers and I really have to single out one guy and he says because he's Blake this isn't his first foray into being a pioneer and I'm like oh no he brings up the shirt found the shirts and bought everybody on the prime team a pioneer shirt so I do have a shirt now I don't think I kept it at the time and when it happened during the free agency I like saw it I clocked it on the cause all the staff members had and I clocked it but I didn't like put much thought into it all it was like saying hi to people and literally on the way home it had exploded on Twitter and I was like is that Martin Luther King is that Gandhi oh my God it's like you know just the amount of people that were on there so this is 2017 you're being recruited do you remember the other faces Gandhi am I right? Gandhi is right over the second Ian pioneers MLK correct Obama on there Obama is on there Obama is on there Muhammad Ali correct top left okay let me that that maybe all I got okay over the oh Abraham Lincoln of course I mean that one actually makes a lot of sense me an eight me an honest eight above Abraham Lincoln JFK yeah checks out too at the center Nelson Mandela oh that's the I knew I knew that that's embarrassing and then I've tried to block the shirt out of my memory then to the right of Nelson Mandela Albert Einstein well and again that one makes a whole lot of sense none of them make any sense I'm sorry I forgot that this is hiding almost artistically like an easter egg in a highlights magazine underneath Einstein's chin is Michael Jackson no it's not Michael Jackson on there I didn't notice that until now it's sort of like part I feel like the designer of this shirt who I would like to formally invite on the show now I would like to ask you if you started with the Michael Jackson and the S I think you sort of work backwards from there I honestly feel like if you like tried to put that like describe that to like chat GBT to make a t-shirt it would be like we can't legally do this because it's so factually incorrect we've been recently programmed to no longer do this yeah sorry that's actually where we draw the line like we found it we've met with religious leaders and they've said we can't put Blake Rubin and Nelson Mandela and Gandhi with Michael Jackson in the same way but we did it all of which is to say that after that all-out recruiting pitch from the only team he had ever played for the team that drafted him number one overall in 2009 Blake Griffin signed a five-year near max contract in 2017 with Steve Balmer making the then five-time all NBA forward what both sides said they wanted Blake to be a clipper for life but just six months later NBA insider Adrian Wojderowski tweeted this my least favorite wojderowski probably all time I gotta say January 29 2018 the clippers and pistons of agreed on the deal to trade Blake Griffin for Tobias Harris every Bradley Bobon Mariana Vitch a first round and a second round draft pick league sources tell ESPN period 22,000 likes 25,000 retweets 22 bookmarks Wow, people saving that for a rainy day just to be able to pull that one out. Yeah, that was both 632 Eastern, middle of the afternoon for me. Yeah, and then you're on a plane and I was on a plane to Detroit the next morning, 7 a.m. Eventually bringing us to Blake's long-awaited return to Los Angeles. And Pistons visited the Clippers the next season. This will give you all you need to know about the situation still being icy. That's the owner of the Clippers Steve Balmer. Looking to shake hands and exchange pleasantries with Blake Griffin. Blake wanted no parts of it. He's thinking about the game. And what happens in the actual game just for the record is that Blake Griffin drops 44 points with 8 rebounds, 5 assists and 3 steals in a big Pistons wet. But given that, we are the show that continues to investigate Steve Balmer, one of the 10 richest men in the world. Lawrence Frank, Ciceta basketball and Gillian Zucker, his head of business with the Clippers, all of whom the NBA has suspended incidentally on account of this whole salary capture convention scheme, which is also sparked an ongoing federal inquiry. Blake Griffin's in-game performance here is not the part I wanted to tell a straight for you. I want to be very clear about this. My goal is to mostly understand how good Blake Griffin's peripheral vision is. In the planet earth video that David Adenborough is narrating. You. The power forward has excellent vision forward, but not so much in the periphery. Yeah, that's. Did you just. Is that your first David Adenborough? No, no, do I. I love David Adenborough. Are you kidding me? Love it. So, I saw him. But I saw him as I'm beginning to take off, and so my entire career, my routine was I would finish at the free-throw line, that pre-game warm-up early. Well, before the game, I finished at the free-throw line, and when I was playing for the Clippers and Staples, the red coats, the ushers that are all. They knew. They knew to watch when I was finishing, because I would be line, sprint. I never stopped for anybody, my entire career. Now, I would come back out, maybe if I needed to talk to somebody, but very rarely would I do that. And then when I went to Detroit, those ushers. They got used to that routine. That was like part of my routine. So, I finished with my free-throws. I swear on everything. I don't see him at first. I shake my coach's hand, which I always did. And then I would kind of take some steps. I would kind of make sure it's clear that I'm not going to truck anybody like right in the. And I took off, and I see him, and I'm like. Split second, I'm not stopping. I've never stopped for anyone. Why would I stop now? And I didn't think that much of it. And I get to the locker room, and I'm continuing my routine, right? And I get a text from my agent, and he's like. Jillian Zucker, text like, "Hey, can Blake go up and shake Steve's hand before the tip?" And I'm like. So, okay, oh, oh, this is all for the appearance. And like, I totally get it. There was a little bit of backlash, but from how the trade went down. And you asked yourself, what would Albert Einstein and Nelson Mandela do? Yeah, and you know what? I stucked my guns. I will nonviolently protest like Mahatma Gandhi. I will moonwalk out of this like Michael Jackson. What would the king of pop do in this situation? So, like the king of pop dropped a hot 44. You know? Yeah, so I don't know. And my whole thing, I think I said it after the game, but it was like. Yeah, he has my number. He has. There's an avenue to. But anyway, the point that I'm making here is that it's weird for you to be obligated. Hey, can you do the theater of being cool with this? Yeah. And I'm like, well, what happened to the shirt? Yeah, what happened to the. The jersey retirement ceremony. And then what really pissed me off, too, is like, you know, there's some. Clippers, reporters, some beatwriters that like. I know I was them now. Yeah, we're like. I know them well. They were like very critical of what I did. And in my mind, I'm like, I'm like, I'm also. You guys know I do that every game. You know that. So, like you said, why was I obligated? And I have zero hard feelings towards that whole situation. But like, it was just a crazy. Another crazy thing that I was like, well, how. How did I end up the bad guy in this situation of like. I don't know. It's the comedy of what apparently matters, right? So just the idea that it's really important that Steve gets to make peace with you after all that stuff. And it's also, by the way, one of the things that I'm managing, personally, this brings us to a conversation maybe about the media where it's like. It's really hard to be a beatwriter right now. The YouTubers have like no one that travels with them, I believe. Right now, it sucks. So I also understand that they're getting leaned on by team officials. Like, they got to. They have a job that they're trying to do. And it's everywhere. It's not just the clip, it's everywhere. It's everywhere. And it's everywhere. So even like, part of why I bring it up is that. How the sausage of a transaction gets made. And the news cycle that follows. The idea that you're finding out via wojbom. Yeah. The job of insider is funny. It is inherently a lot upside, not a ton of credibility. I mean, these are jobs. I mean, wojbom is making millions and millions of dollars. For the record, I think wojbom did a really good job. Because he was like sort of the bridge between reporter and insider. I think in my. As far as I know, but I also haven't studied that. Yeah, yeah. But there's a multi-part series about wojbom at some point perhaps. Was not an insider, became an insider, had the background of doing. You know, straight ahead journalism. But the idea of being a nexus of news, of transactions. Yeah. In which I'm going to learn from your Twitter account. That something happened seconds before it's going to be announced anyway. Yeah. And in exchange, you get to be. Yeah, the pipeline of how the NBA sausage gets made. Yeah. You get the next scoop and the next scoop and the next scoop. The craziest thing to me was the draft. When he started tweeting out the picks before they'd come out. Yeah. I was like, how are we allowed? Like, how's that? What's the point? Do we just let the draft happen? Like, what's the point? Yeah. I'm a big fan of like the public interest and journalism and all that stuff. But the idea of, you're watching a TV show. And I'm going to tell you what the actor says. Like five seconds before he says it. Who is his servant? Yeah. Like watching Game of Thrones and like dragon dies. Like, gosh. God damn it. Just ruined the episode, man. Why don't I look at my phone? It's like, just watch it together. But by the way, one of the things that he ended up doing, I just remember this part too, there was a draft when he was told like, hey, you can't do this because of ESPN. Right. And they're like, hey, we got the broadcast rights. So can you not do this? You're like, f**king up our business. Yeah. And his compromise solution was, I'm going to use synonyms instead of derafted. The San Andreas Marys are circling. Yeah. The New York Knicks are heavily considered. Yeah. The New York Knicks are obsessed with so and so. The Sixers are enamored with Landry Shamitz. That's so funny to me. Boston is tantalized by Robert Williams with the 27th pick. Is that a real? Is that a real? These are all real. Oh, wow. These are all real. Hold on. That's incredible. Source Utah Jazz have no plans to pass on Grayson Allen. The double. Yeah, the double. Yeah. They have zero plans to not not like Grayson Allen. The Lakers are bricked up for MoVog there. Bricked up. That was that. Yeah, I know that one was made up. Unfortunately, that was. That would be incredible. It's trying to figure out like today's Lingo. What? I'm honestly too old to know. The Orlando Magic are glazing. Six, nine, center. Oh, my God. I think we. I think we. I think you're. Your. Your. Your point has been made. Yeah. And now Shams is. Shams is the number one guy now. He. He undercut our Amazon MVP announcement. Which was like also funny. I feel like that stuff gets leaked. It's been getting leaked for a long time, but. We had a fun little thing back and forth with him when he announced the shade two-time MVP. Right now, just to be clear, the official announcement is happening here. Dirk and Steve, you all both won MVP's, but I don't remember Shams spoiling it way back then. Hmm. I don't think he was a. Shams. He was a baby then. What are we doing, man? I think it's Sunday. Shams, go to brunch. You heard. Come on. Right. Yeah. Just to have it like literally like two, three hours later, whatever it was. And the thing about the shade thing as I remember it now was always interesting about MVP votes in all NBA selections. I don't even know if you thought about this when you were a player, but like it is very funny that like a Senate of media members. Yeah. Votes on stuff that can cause like eight figure swings in real money. 1000%. If someone's going to get all NBA. The beauty of it, I guess, is that like there are people with votes who have a vast vast NBA knowledge. But I also think with that there are probably some that I don't think should have that much control over whether a player is. And forget about they can go on to make X amount more money. But just like the distinction of being an all NBA player, there's 15 guys a year. That is a big deal. It's very hard to make an OMBA team and I think that coming down to it, being just whoever felt like, "Oh, it's over this," and you can always make an argument for some, but there's not an argument to me. So the way it works, by the way, OMBA, it is 100 sports journalists and broadcasters who vote. Part of what I think is so funny is that I don't think those journalists are being corrupted enough. Think about the money on the other side of, "Hey, if you can get my guy to be second-team-all-MBA," like, "Why isn't someone. " These journalists should be flying private. Brian Winnhooorst should be living it in a mansion. Like, "What are we doing?" He's just going on the most lavish trips of all time. Oh, my God. He's like, "Why is Brian's Zoom background a photo of the Cayman Islands?" Oh, he's there. That's. He is. He's living where San Bernard Fried is to live. But okay, so what's the alternative? Like, where do you go? I think it. Can't be coaches. Same issue. Okay, so rank who is least qualified? Okay, we're throwing out coaches. We're throwing out GMs. We're throwing out owners. If players would take it seriously, that would be a really interesting look at how players view the game. Right. I don't know that I would trust players in those votes. Much like John F. Kennedy once did. We're contemplating the problems with democracy. Correct. Who do we trust with something really important? How do you make it so that a bunch of people come together? Yeah. And you balance all of these interests. Because you're right. Look, the counter from journalists is like, "You guys, you players are just going to vote for guys you liked and didn't like." Yeah. And the players say to the journalists, "You're doing the same f***ing thing!" Right, right. Blake was a f***er. He's really nice to you, and you're going to have a favor of that. Which is, by the way, the human problem. Yeah. And by the way, most people I know with a vote take it very seriously. Yes. They take it very seriously. Taylor Rooks has votes. And once she knows the game, she studies the game. And everything consumes everything. And she also keeps it close like now after she's cast her vote. I think we talked about it last year. But she truly does the work. And I think most do. But I don't know if everybody takes it seriously to the degree that she does. As I'm contemplating what the solution is in my head, I realize just now that I'm like literally reinventing Congress. Yeah. I'm like, "Okay, this should be one house where everyone represents geographically. According to population, the other one is just two per, two per state." A vote passes Congress goes up to, "Certainly no corruption will happen now." And then, and then there's a, there's a president. Adam Silver, final vote. Yeah, I don't know. I don't pretend to have the answers. And I don't think it's like this broken system, but it is, it is an interesting thing to think about how much a vote, a vote, or two votes can affect a guy's trajectory. By the way, I do want to surprise you with something if that's okay. That's what I do here. And I just noticed that your voice just became a little more serious. What did you find out? We do have someone who has been waiting patiently behind the glass. And they're going to join us after the break. I should say for people who don't know Joe's work on the show, Joe previously. Are you familiar with his caps? Yes. Yeah. I sent him. Well, yeah. As a member of the. Which one did you get? What? What did you make for him? You were on the Brooklyn Nets. The B. Ben Yes. Yeah, the Ben Yes. That's right. I was really proud of that. Didn't make it on your like, your walk to the locker room. Yeah. Sorry. I think I put it in a case, like a break, breaking a lot of emergency grades. The good news. It's a PSA 10 now. Okay, cool. Yeah, yeah. It's perfectly great. Yeah. Mint. We got Joe to make us a two wolves cap that we auctioned off for charity. And it was a. Chemtrails. Yeah. It was the old. It was the old. Yeah, MT load. Makes sense. Makes perfect sense. Makes perfect sense. So, I just need to jump in here to clarify that the reason I brought back stand-up and writer and actor and friend of PTFO, Joe Mandy, is not because of the March Madness ad campaign for a certain telecom giant, in which Joe and Blake Griffin both pretended to be podcasters. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. The guarantee guys. The guarantee guys. The guarantee. Every office in America is finalizing their bracket pool. You wore my culture as a podcaster, as a costume. That's right. Like, you're these two guys who are too good for podcas. I know. I wanted to be Filipino while I did it. But you know. They were upset. They were weirdly against it. We tried so hard. The reason Joe Mandy is here is because, on account of Blake's new late night show, the step back, I think you have demands. I do. Yeah. Well, it's just you have a show now, and I just feel like there's a vacuum since the passing of Andy Rooney. Correct. That someone should be on, even if it's YouTube, just a weekly segment where you can complain about things. I don't like most of the stuff passing for art, and it's everywhere. Memphis, Tennessee. This was done to honor Martin Luther King. It's called, "I've been to the mountain." Well, I'm in admiral of everything Martin Luther King stood for, but I don't think he would have stood for this. I have a lot of complaints about basketball, I'm pretty informed about things I don't like. By the way, didn't I text you about trying to-- I'm busy. I'm busy. I'm booking busy. So, hold on. No, you're trying to get me behind the camera. That's-- I need a cinematographer. Yeah. As Joe's agents. My client deserves to be in front of us. Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. Yeah, you want to-- what do you want-- can we name the segment now? A minute with Andy Rooney, and-- just do that, just bring it back. Is it you with your impersonation? Sure. Yeah. Great. But I will be Filipino. The makeup department's going to have to-- Yeah. It's okay. It's fine. He gave me this bless. Yeah. Yeah. Andy Rooney's state will totally bless this. If Joe were his brown face. Right. Right. So-- all melted. But Blake and Joe also share something else in common. You may recall from earlier in our aspiration series, our coverage of the FX mini-series clipped. Which is about the clippers, including Blake Griffin, under former owner Donald Sterling. And, well, something you should maybe know about Joe Mandy is that he had a very special job on the Netflix show Running Point, which was seemingly inspired by the real-life story of Laker's owner, Jeannie Bus, making Joe personally familiar with the problems of depicting the real-life NBA in a fictionalized scripted format. That's true. Yeah. And so is Blake, yeah. I was technically a consulting producer on Running Point. And I feel like most of my job was like telling, mendicaling that certain story lines wouldn't work because of, like, salary cap implications. I was really good at salary cap. I would just, well, I just felt like I needed to be like this. I feel like my job here is that I don't want boyfriends watching this show to roll their eyes at certain scenarios. Or girlfriends. They also know salary caps. And that's exactly what I said. Yeah, OK. Just making sure. Our data shows that many girlfriends across America are very familiar with dectronics, the scoreboarding adventure, and have me-- Yeah. Yeah, we'll be waiting. Get ready season four. I'm curious for your view on this as well, Blake, because when you watch fictionalized or adapted basketball on television, as you have also seen in your personal depiction of yourself, have you met the actor who played you, ever, by the way? I did. I remember Joe on one time, yeah. It was before the show came out. So I also didn't really have a context of how it looked. But I'm a supporter of actors. I think they deserve. Yeah. Hey, congrats, by the way. I was pretty bummed with the show overall, to be honest. What is your letter box review of Cliped? I made it through about 15 minutes of episode one, and I was like, I can't do this. But I also went in with a bad attitude. I went in with a real bad attitude. I didn't even ask me to play myself. That is crazy. I would have done it. Yeah. Me with Lawrence Fish, and Ed O'Neal. Are you kidding me? Yeah. How does that not sell? I love the idea of there being a very poorly reenacted basketball scene, and then actual Blake, right? Well, when I worked at Parks and Rec, we had a joke where Chris Bosh was on the Eagleton basketball team as a ringer. And he was so nervous about saying his line correctly that he kept missing, because he just-- Wanted to nail the line after he made the shot. Yeah. Yeah. So you might about also debt lift was in. That's right. Yeah. Roy Hibbert. Mm-hmm. My dog. So in part lake is very aware of who got to be on parks and roads. Yeah. Sorry. We didn't get that call. Again. What a gladly. Yeah. Yeah. That's all right. I'm technically available. My my favorite thing about Roy Hibbert is he follows my wife on Instagram. So like every once in a while she'd be like Roy Hibbert just liked our photo of our dog. Sweet man. Yeah. He's a great guy. Loves animals. Yeah. Not following you though. No, no, no. Just my wife and I'm not threatened. Did they meet when they were? Yeah, dog. We've like, like when he was on the Flaker site. I will see him a lot. Okay. Okay. Makes sense. I mean, I'm not saying that you should be concerned. I am just saying that Roy Hibbert has chosen not to follow you. Yeah. All right. No, I ask him a DM. I will. I'll look for my wife's account. Hey, it's Joe. We share this account. One of the things that Joe, by the way, as every time you come on, I'm like, no one foresaw the future of promoting anything better than Joe Mandi. That's right. We're gonna need some YouTube bots soon. We talked to my guy. Have you had a meeting as I have had many meetings where it's like, we're gonna need a thumbnail. Yeah. Actually, Noah, you meant that's been the thing that I just didn't like to anticipate. Yeah. It's like, let's get let's flip a shot Brad Pitt in there. Me. It's like trying to come up with catchy. I don't know. I try to be a purist in the way of like, well, we don't need all of this. Like, but you know, you got to figure out how I'm trying to make a show. I was once like you, Blake, where I'm like, you know what? I want a planet earth nature scene. No, no famous people. No words. But I am seeing a scene one way now. Every, every, every thumbnail is Gandhi. Gandhi here. Michael Jackson. Yeah. Yeah. I'm Stein. I'm Stein. Yeah. I have one of those shirts. You bought, yeah, immediately. Yeah. What else is in your eBay purchase history, Joe? There was a desert storm like card collection that was made like like, collective collectors cards of soldiers of like generals and politicians, but like the, the one that's like worth money is a no-stop bond. And once I got, I got that reason. You have a bin Laden. Yeah. Okay. And it's like mint. It's like, like you were saying, P.S., it's like in a thing. Obviously not signed. No, not yet. It shows like, oh, I found him using it. Yeah. Yeah. It's a bad boy sign. I gave him a hard drive. Yeah. Exactly. Dude was a fanatic. And he passed that guy's. And it's a fanatic. Come meet him. Man, they really, they really got everybody, didn't they? By the way, the greatest MBA tweet of all time is about Osama bin Laden. Terry Rosier. Who unfortunately has a Wikipedia page that has been rearranged. Yeah. Actually, can Blake can you do a line reading of this? Osama should have hooped instead of trying to kill people because he tall his hair. Yeah. I thought there was an LOL in there. Oh, wait. Well, there's a follow-up. Oh, here we go. Let me see. Let me see. Please read the follow-up from hold on. This is May 1st, 2011. The original post was 11, 10 p.m. And this is 12 years later. Oh, my God. 12 years later. May 1st, 2023, 305 p.m. I love the fact that he just like woke up one day and said, I gotta amend that. Don't know where I was or what I was doing when I tweeted this, but happy anniversary. I was dead-ass curious. Crying. I love that it was such a huge, like, 12 years later. He's like. He had to mark the anniversary. He has to celebrate. Yeah. I mean, he never forgot. Never forget. Wow. I don't know what where I was. I was curious. You know what? If we could now put a formal request for comment from Terry Rosier, we want to find out where you were and what you were doing on May 1st, 2011. Yeah, among other things. On many other things, increasingly. Yeah. I should reveal that there is one more thing that we need, Joe. Sorry, to present. Can we bring it out? Can we open the door one more time? A lot of surprises. I know, right? Do I not look good? Close your eyes, please. Close your eyes. All right. Well, there's two. Well, there's oh my god. Oh, wow. Oh my god. Yes. Yeah. I think I think it's like an unboxing. All right. So tell me when to open it. You can open it. So it's the LA Clippers hat. I don't know if you can get it. It's a salary cap, circumvention. And a little Easter egg is that it was a Mitchell and that's happened. I made it Balmer and Frank on the back. So what we're going to do, Blake. Yes. Is we're going to auction this off for charity. Love it. Is a fund called the Kirifund, our good friend David Samson. His daughter died earlier this year from glioblastoma. On a very real note, we've been auctioning off things. Yep. Currently, you can buy, Blake Griffin personally, can buy the bird automaton that Kelly Clarkson didn't want. We bought that available on the auction page. That is not a joke. That is incredible. For real, the Kirifund goes towards that. We were hoping you might be able to autograph. Can I take the sticker off? Oh, yeah, please. Yes. So you're going to auction off a Blake Griffin signed. I would love Joe Mandy custom made. I mean, people who are into AT&T Guarantee guys are going to freak out. The 14 people. Yeah. Who know of the Guarantee guys? There we go. And we would just like Blake, if you could, if you could hold that just to show your signature, it'll be. I want to talk about the bird. Oh my god. I would love to. Do you think if I bought it and gifted heroes to this first? Yes. The LAs, by the way, just the mechanics of this, the LA inside of the blue sea, Joe finding salary cap in red using the LA. Yeah. And then across the bottom, the sir convention with the sea. And I did my best to match the font in this one. As always, it looks like you are an asylum patient. I mean, yeah, I'm just the handwriting. Yeah. But it's hard of it. Yeah. You laugh so you don't cry. That's my motto. Yeah. So we have we have that in the bird. What do you think? If I bought it, let's do you look the atomic sheet for charity? Yeah. Absolutely. And do you think if I gifted it to Kelly, would she find it funny, endearing or would she be like, that was mean? I think that on the next season of the step back, we are going to find out. By the way, bookmark it. I think I'm going to buy it now. It's only $15 million. All right. Maybe season 14 step back. I got to move some funds around. Dang it. I mean, you guys are fellow talk show host. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we, we, you know, we'll figure it out. I think our people will call your people. We will call her people because her people I don't think are going to respond to our. No, you get the YouTube people involved. We figure it out. Yes. And Joe also kind of on it being a YouTube show. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. Funny to say that when you're on a YouTube show. No, I sold in your show names. Whatever. Joe's just rolling in those network television residuals. The amount of embroidery thread I have. It's like a Scrooge McDonough. What do you go from here? Yeah. I'm diving into red. It's really dangerous. Yeah. But you have one more. I have another one. This, this, I did not know. I did not ask you to make. No, you didn't. But this one's a second one says blatant criminality. And then there's an aspiration logo on the back. So I don't know about that. I don't know. I'm going to grab this one. Let me get that. Assuming assuming that Steve Balmer's attorney's do not find this to be legally actionable. Right. Because we're merely saying that this is alleged. You can't believe I can write a alleged. I'll tell you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, there we go. Lawyers will be very happy. Yeah, this is this. And so how much time do you have on your hands? You know, I am, I was texting Pablo. I'm fully running a TV show right now. So I'm like doing this while I write a TV show. And I'm like a nice little break a little. I'm doing it at the same time. Yeah, I just like that in between collecting Osama bin Laden trading cards, rookie cards, yeah. And, and, and stitching these caps for a very good cause. Yeah, you are, you are also, uh, it's for a great cause. That's, yeah, yeah. Love that. So, as always, on this show, we go on the table and end an episode by saying what it is we found out today. Joe, we'll start with you. I didn't realize that was Michael Jackson in the. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I truly learned something. Yeah. Let me think if I can see something else, figure out something else. I found out that there is no limit to what you can turn an NBA ad into. The creativity is unmatched. Yes. Yes. Then it turns out running a TV show got a lot more time on my hands than I thought. Yeah. I've been swamped with my show. This guy's running a real. Yeah. It's my goodness. Oh, God. And I found out, I suppose, that Filipino Andy Rooney is going to be a huge hit on YouTube. Every Amazon platform is allowed onto. Or it's going to be the biggest downfall of all of all of all of all of all of all of all. Free cancel. I think you're fine. Well, I don't know where I fall in that as a racially ambiguous person myself. I get the most wide-ranging people coming up to me being like, "We have a cousin who looks just like you. It could be a Mexican family, a Latvian family, a mixed black and white family. I sort of blend in. I'm a chameleon." No. What Blake is. What I really found out is that you really are a pioneer. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Gandhi. Einstein. Obama. JFK. JFK. We're going to put in both. Michael Jackson. I think that was it, right? Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali. Blake Griffin. Thank you so much for watching. This has been Pioneer Finds Out. This has been Pablo Torre Finds Out, a metal-lark media production. And I'll talk to you next time.