Bills New Coach, Championship Preview, Wedding Advice & The New Era of TEs with Greg Olsen | EP 176

Coming from the nanny last night, yeah, man. I just just flew back to Charlotte was at the game with my family Appreciate you guys having me on I feel like this has been a long time coming This is a career highlight every time you guys release like your new episode And I see who you chose over me Just stop it hurts the soul just a little bit. Dude stop it We've been trying to get you on for years. You've been ducking us. That's not true at all I'm just so glad that we finally freed you up here for a little divisional football talk. It's the least I can do I Welcome back to new high slaves and gentlemen boys and girls a one-jury show That's right brought to you by Reese's Oreo cups a dynamic if they didn't put together to my favorites Reese's cups and Oreo cookie is Gonna go get you some man. We're your hosts. I'm Travis Kels and my big brother Jason Jason Kelsie Yeezer over there with his cowboy hat. Oh you city slicker turn Country fast gorilla subscribe on YouTube one three plus and or wherever you get your podcast Follow the show and also a meeting for fun stuff throughout the week Don't forget that Kelsey clubhouse.com for anything new heights and Kelsey Jason you want to tell everybody what we have coming up on this wonderful episode 92% is we got a great episode for y'all learning going on out here We got everything from the division around and we're gonna get everything coming up in the championship round in We got our modifying friend mr. Greg Olson don't stop by the show but before we get into any of that we're gonna a little bit that new news New news is brought to you by American Express First bit of new news. They got some great reactions from the Kelsey clubhouse. Thanks to you 92%ers from Steph Also the Kelsey clubhouse is a gag and I love the green hoodie, but I can't believe none of the new hoodies are called new heights of man hoodie I don't know what the fuck that means, but she's disappointed. What does that mean? What's a man hoodie? Is that like is that a thing? New heights of man hoodie is familiar with man hoodie. I'll just say it's a life of a showgirl reference boys. Come on man hoodie To lyric new heights of manhood it is the time we were referenced in the album All right, new heights of manhood so I'm getting made man hoodie you get it got it all right now I get it here you go All right, thanks Brandon. I didn't understand that right over our heads Taylor's gonna kill me for not knowing that we're not as good with Easter eggs of these swifty space Sure know how to plan them and call them out. All right. What else we got? Yeah from Katherine the pathological people pleaser Uh, Saber babe 13 who sounds like she's a buffalo I love that it's on Amazon. What a huge win for me prime shipping baby. Hey, it is nice It is a very nice feature. I mean it's not honestly change the world of ordering things. Amazon is like freaking insane It's wild. It's annoying not shipping with them. They have literally everything on there You get searching in the little search bar and you got a plethora of items that you could choose from At the do all right from pop takes my new heights show t-shirt arrived from the Kelsey Clubhouse and it's so nice great quality Can't wait to wear it out of the house. I wonder which one they got the golden baby quality is unreal That's I love that shirt. The new heights. All right. I showed that I was wearing last week, dude I was wearing that all fucking day might have slept in it. No, I have no judgment no judgment. All right, from killer Scorpio I need crew neck new heights sweaters Brandon Brandon. This is somebody calling you out Who does who do they have to beg? Well, ironically, it's probably not Brandon. We'll work on it Well, I like it good when it goes crew I like a nice mint crew neck, you know a nice little fabric crew neck so we might have to get that in there We're working on these and if you haven't, uh, please check out all the great new merch at Kelsey Clubhouse.com Ben as of right now This is officially unofficially new news, but it looks like Eric being in me will be back with the Kansas City Chiefs Trav you and I have talked about this a lot. I know E.B. was a huge part of this offensive success for a while in Kansas City You offered a lot of not just great offensive schematic coaching and play calling, but I just I mean He's he's gonna coach your heart and sometimes that's exactly what you need. How do you feel about this? I love that shit. I think it's great. I think it's a marriage is gonna pick up right where it left off E.B. and who he is as a as a coach you can see kind of his Personality what he breaks that is table in that Chicago team I know Ben Johnson has his own version of that. He's a very tough guy and what he did in And Detroit he brought over as well and you can see those running backs over Chicago and their their body of work was was definitely a Eric be enemy Style of football man and hell yeah, I can't wait to see him back in the building man He's one of his one of my favorite coaches of all time One of my favorite people of all time. I've had so many Unbelievable, you know growing moments under him as a as a player as a person And I just love the guy and it's gonna be awesome to see him back in the building And see him back. We're in the the Chiefs logo, baby Yeah, I mean it's gonna see what he learned while with Ben Johnson. I mean, I think he's probably one of the most creative Minds right now coach in the game on the offensive side of the ball and to be in a building with that guy Okay, I wouldn't I'd be picking E.B.'s brain. I'd be like oh man. What would you learn? What do you think? Then I also like, you know How does E.B. change as a coach is he gonna rip a shirt off? Are we gonna see a shirtless E.B. after a game? hyping the offense up. I want to see it be enemy. I want to see those kids out Haha new tits. Who knows, man? Maybe he's maybe he's elevated. He's taking his game to new heights in that regard But it'll be awesome to see him back with the Chiefs final piece of new news Jason has joined tiktok That's right Travis. I finally have finally done it. Well, I have two videos I think they're both very high quality. I was in Huntington, West Virginia and saw this frost stop root beer mug Twirling. What the fuck were you doing in Huntington, West Virginia? That's to be disclosed to the later date, but I was enjoying myself. I like the newest one the newest ones. I like this one Are the fuckers your nose so big? It's an optical illusion. Oh man Dude, they're so good. I made that one just for you, Tramp. I fucking love those goddamn candies God damn it. I love those. Yeah, so I'm gonna take that. I don't know what I'm doing. I really don't understand how it works You really do have like a button nose like I have noses. You got like a real like They're like a little marble on the end of your nose there. That's just an illusion I think, right? You got kind of like a round tip of the tip of the nose. I feel like I was just getting close up like that. Oh wow I kind of got that nose. How about that? Yeah Now who's got the big nose? That's just a head Kelsey thing. Huh? Because I definitely got a head Kelsey's nose That rosacea or whatever that stuff is called in those news What the doctor started yelling at him for like going out in the sun too much and not wearing sunscreen You're not part Croatian. You got to be if you're not meant for the Sun like that. You're you're Irish You're up there in them UK islands. You don't need to be out in the Sun like that. The wealth side of you You need to be inside or at least cover that nose. Just wear a hat. All right. Well, let's try to make fun of dad Once again new news brought to you by American Express Well, let's keep this thing moving into some bold topics to wrap up the Weekend that we just experienced. I think we should do it with a friend. Love that idea a fellow Titan you we need the expert of experts. He's the only expert that I trust with anything and life I'm sorry to whoever's Pod these are because I am a waxy eared guy. Let me tell you you have no idea what you signed up for I've shared sweaty towels. I've shared a lot of things. I'm not proud of I don't think I could put another man's air pods in my ear Do you ever look in your case like do you ever open this and oh, I got to get the Q-tips. I got to clean that out man I've had to clean them. Yeah, it's ugly. It's ugly. I'll just toss them and buy a new pair I'll just eat the oh yeah thousand bucks for a new pair and just be like dude That's like ultimate rich guy move right there because I'll do I'll get the haircut and then put them in and then So then you got wax on top of hair. It's a dangerous game. We get some apparel spritzes last night at the game or what? I would hammer an apparel spritz right now Can we just meet up and just get a platter of apparel spritzes and just hammer them. That sounds great I don't know if you know this Greg, but there's another person named Greg Olson on Twitter and for some reason I just like was getting their stuff on my homepage And they were sending out like a lot of like Like dry January like no more drinking. I was like is Greg gone dry is he he's he given up the sauce And I just ran on with you for like three days. I was telling people I was like dude, I think Greg's gonna do some stuff I don't really know what's happening right now No, no, no, it's cleanse never heard you buddy Listen if I was supposed to do dry January that lasted 25 minutes Alrighty stop wasting Greg's time. Thank you for the time big guy. There's been a long time coming man I appreciate you guys having me on I feel like this has been a long time coming. This is a career highlight Every time you guys release like your new episode and I see who you chose over me um It hurts the soul just a little bit Dude stop it. We've been trying to get you on for years. You're a busy man That's not true all the weekend all the weekend bowl coaching that you do true Just you're you're tied up individual man and I'm just so glad that we finally Free Jeff here for a little divisional football talk. Oh, he's like - I can do. - All right, I'm gonna do this intro and we'll get to this very un-serious discussion between three Sleptics. Sound good? - Sounds great up my alley. - Let's do this. - All right, and we got a very special guest to help us wrap up the division now. - Aw, yeah. - And that's right. Our guest today is the six foot five Titan out of the university of Miami. He's the first round pick in the 2007 draft. He played 14 season in the NFL, three time pro boy, two time old pro, first Titan in NFL history to record three consecutive seasons with at least 1,000 yards of CVs and founding member of Titan U. And he is also a two time Emmy-winning broadcaster for Fox Sports. Please give us a giant welcome 92% of us to the best Titan on this podcast right now. Mr. Grant Olsen! - Listen, I've been a part of some cool shit in my day. I've watched you do intros over a lot of episodes on this pod for a lot of really famous people. And I'm not going to lie. I've laid in bed at night being like, I wonder what my intro would be. I wonder the energy is it the same when you introduce the rock as it is when you introduce me and even more. I have to say everything that I dreamed of it being, it was better. It was better. - Let's go! - Especially a guy in a cowboy hat in a saloon. - He's in character right now. - I've been out of place right now. - No dude, you're right where you need to be. - You do a great monologue, you do a great open dude. - Dude, it's the best. - I'm surprised. - It's the best. - He did, you did black outfit. - I forgot to mention that he's the head coach of the undefeated Charlotte Christian Middle School football to you baby. - Let's go boys, let's go boys. - Boys, now you know you've made it in life. You want to do some cool go coach middle school football. - Let's go. - That's how you know you've made it. - Honestly, what is it like coaching middle school football? - It's a mate. It is the, of all the shit that we do, it's probably like what I enjoy the most, right? So what's cool about the age group is, so it's at the kids school, like Travis said, Charlotte Christian, it's a K through 12 school here in Charlotte, they've got a good program. So me, Luke, Key, Cle, Jonathan Stewart, and my dad. We coached it the last couple of years. Stu's kids go there, my kids go there. Luke has no kids, he's just been coaching with me for years when we started, when my two boys were little. So we've been doing it over there, and what's cool is, unlike the other sports, a lot of kids nowadays aren't playing football until middle school, right? The days have grown up in first second grade. So when we have these kids show up to our first practices in the summer, I mean, we joke that we like coach lunch, like we got to teach him how to buckle their shoulder pads. We got to teach him. - Oh yeah. - You got kids, they're like dangling themselves. They can't buckle their helmets. Now they got those like, now the new fancy helmets, you know, they have like the ratchet, the ratchet straps. - Yeah, so it's a lot easier. - They're locking their helmet, they can't get their helmets off. So like, there's, it's amazing where we start. - I can't see what this thing is. - It's literally, we are the little giants. And you know, so a lot of the kids, I would say one more than half have never played football. They might have played a little flag, a little seven of them, but and then by the end of the year, after a long time, all summer, all fall, a lot of workouts and a lot of trading, like what we're able to do with these, you know, call it 13 to 15 year old boys, is man, it's just such a great age. They take it all in, they want to be coached, they want to be pushed. It's everything you guys remember. Like it's the, the most wholesome version of football, you can imagine and we live for it, man. We love it. - Man, you got three all pros on your coaching stuff. That is how lucky are these freaking kids. - Oh my gosh. - The parents in the school districts that you guys are playing, gotta be like, this is unfair. You can't do this. We get after it pretty good. Yeah, we always joke with stews. So he's done this at the last two years. And you know, at the young age, you're really good players or you're running backs. So we joke, like how nice is it for stew? Like you just get to walk in and you just get the coach, like the best three athletes in the school. Better like, you just give them the ball every time, you know, but yeah. Yeah, and then Luke's out there teaching guys, like fit gap fits and how we set the front and cover, I mean, it's cool. And then and my dad, who's out there, he's 73 years old. He was me and my brother, he's the youngest 73. He's the youngest 73 year old you've ever met. He was a 40 year high school football coach. Me and my brother's all played for him back home. So we lean on him, man. You know, amazing. - That's so much fucking fun. - It's awesome, man. - Me and Jason, we talk about this with our really, more so with our college buddies that than anybody else, but we talk about it all the time. It's like one day just getting into like a middle school, high school coaching deal. And it's just the fact that you got to do it with the guys you played with, too, man. And your father, that's gotta be so epic, man. - Do it. If you guys get a chance to do it, I promise like, of all the cool shit that you get to do and the experiences and all that, like the purpose and the connection and seeing these young boys grow up in front of your eyes and like the light go off, it's pretty special. And like we can't wait. We'll start here after spring sports end and we'll get back ripping into the summers and everything, but it's everything you think it is. It's even better. - I love it, man. - It's awesome. - Do you find that former tight ends and linebackers make the best coaches? 'Cause you guys kinda gotta know everything on both sides of the ball. - You know, it's, I talk about, 'cause people ask me that a lot about like the TV stuff, right? So like, I think what's unique about tight end and even what you guys did with the offensive line, we sat, I just think back to what I played, we sat in on so many different meetings, right? I would sit in what, I started every single day for nine years in Carolina in the offensive line room. When the special teams guys were doing their meeting, I was in there with the offensive line and was in their run game installs or their pass pro meetings, all their stuff with the offensive line coach, John Mads go like, so that's where I started my day and then I would jump out of that and go into the offensive pass game install and then sit through hot reads and coverages and pass games. So the point of saying all that, like now as I find myself doing the TV or even just coaching middle school kids, I spend every waking second with the offense in the defensive line. I do very little in the pass game. We're blocking, we're taking angles, step footwork, split, stance, combination blocks, double teams, angles, like, and it's just the perspective that I was around, not that that was, I certainly didn't make a living on double team blocks, but I've heard, I've heard and watched a lot really, I've coached enough, right? I watched Ryan Khalil. I watched that block on counter. I watched how they taught guards to make sure you're going into the line of scrimmage to get on kick, like, I was around it, experienced it and you want to have a good middle school football team, have a good offensive line. You have a good offensive line, you're going to dominate people because nobody can block. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, it's also hard to have like a high powered passing attack in middle school. Well, pass protection is a bitch. Path protection is wrong. We're not sorting anybody on the backside for a week. We're not sliding the protection again. It's a lot of like play action. Yeah, let's roll out the pocket. Yeah, where anything you do from the pocket is we're gap protection. Everyone's got your inside gap. Back's got the edges. We're building a wall. And if the quarterback doesn't throw it to the first or second guy, we got a percent job. Yeah, right. There is no regression here. Yeah, that's too far, but it's cool. And I'm sure you guys, like, everything about my career, I enjoy so much of the stuff that I didn't necessarily do personally, but I was exposed to. I use more of that knowledge, like, it's now secondhand, passively into my career and also just into my coaching. More so than teaching a tight end had to run a stick route. Like, it doesn't really, it doesn't really come up as much. I got him make sense. I love it, man. Well, good luck to the boys this year as it pushes still, still middle school, right? Yeah, I got one more year. My seventh grade, your boy TJ, my seventh grader, he's got one more tight end. Baby, let's go teach fellow tight end. He's getting big now. He's getting tall. He's long. There we go. There we go. Seven. What the fuck? Why would you wear that? No. Sometimes it's the only number there that makes sense, Jason, just saying. I get it. All right. Here we go, baby. How we feeling after the Nadi, man? Miami, obviously, didn't. They weren't able to pull it off, but it was a fun game to watch and follow along to man in the end of just they just had a role in this year, man. Yeah. I mean, I think it was, what was so cool, it was a clean game, right? There wasn't a lot of controversy. The last, you know, obviously, the last pick by Carson Beck was the only turnover. Like it was a good, clean football game. We are offense really struggled in the first half, came to life there in the second, and then the game kind of flipped. Our offense came to life. We were going up and down the field, passing game started clicking, and we scored multiple, you know, back to back possessions there at the end, and we just couldn't get a stop. Yeah. Right. The two fourth downs were throwing back shoulder fades. And of course, the fourth down quarterback draw was a hell of a play by Mendoza. So, you know, it's suck pulling out of there. My wife and I both went to Miami. Our family members went to Miami, like where Miami got, you know, threw and threw and pulling out of the stadium and being on a flight full of Indiana fans this morning, leaving Water Dale was not the best feeling, but I'll tell you what, Mario Kirsteball, man, he, he's a stud. He was my tight end coaching college, actually, and now obviously that, yeah, so he recruited me when he was at Rutgers early on in his career, eventually became the tight end coach of Miami at the end of my career for a couple of years and then went off to FIU and went And often did his head coaching stuff. So the fact that he's back home has them back on the National stage would have been a storybook ending for him to win Miami guy grew up there. Yeah home, but you know, it wasn't meant to be the other Miami guy. Mendoza, he got the storybook ending, but tough one to walk out of a man. It was what a moment. So cool. Connect with all former players. Connect with guys that went to school with and just kind of rally around the school that we all take a lot of pride in hell. Yeah, man. That's awesome. What was your freshman year? What year was it? Yeah, so I was oh, three. So I got there in the fall. Yeah, so we were on the heels. So my junior year in high school, we beat Nebraska my senior year in high school. We lost Ohio State so that I was my freshman year. We went to the orange bowl, you know, back it was like the BCS and all that back then. So we didn't play. We never played for a national title when I was there. We played in the BCS bowl my freshman year. I was a red shirt. I was scout team. You know, but I'm breaking the huddle on the scout team and the scout team defense is Sean Taylor and intro role and Vince Wilfork and Jonathan Villanova and DJ Williams and Kelly Jennings. I mean, there was like seven first round picks just on defense. You're looking at a safety. Literally the same size as you traffic. If you would have seen Sean Taylor, a holy shit like live and in person. Dude, no mind you. I came from North Jersey like we played high school football, but you know, back then like we never played you never played football outside of your little bubble. Right. So I went to like a summer camp here and there, but it was no pads and it just wasn't like kids are exposed to now where you know every kid in California, every kid in Ohio, every kid in Florida, wasn't the case back then. So I show up, man, and I'm a 225 pound 18 year old freshman and Sean Taylor six. He looked like he was six eight and he's got the rainbow visor. Oh, yeah, tape on the face mask. You know it man. I was like, what am I? Yeah, the tape on the bars. I'm like, what am I doing here? This is so stupid. Why am I here? That's so crazy. It was awesome and just a great part of my life and to see them back now and the guys feel prideful again and the country kind of take notice of them. It's it's been fun. That's how yeah, man. I don't know. Yeah, kids now have no idea. Like they weren't around when it was happening, but like the Miami like, it wasn't even just that they were good. It was that they were, I mean, the 30 for 30 on them says it so perfectly from back in the day, but too, but the like swagger and every, it was like the bravado that Miami had. It was on top of all that other stuff. So college football is just better when Miami is balling out. So I'm glad you guys feel that way because our Miami guys are a little obnoxious, you know, like they walk around and, you know, they, especially probably of the last like 20 years, we've, because we've all, we didn't accomplish shit. Like we all were in Miami, but we didn't actually like win anything worth meaning, but like, we still acted like we did. Yeah, but I think that Miami though, it feels like yeah, there's like a there's a confident like swagger to it, but it doesn't feel like conceded kind of like arrogant, like pompous. You know what I mean? Like those are the type of ones that you really get upset with. Like Miami is like a bunch of dogs that are just like achieving their dreams and love playing the game. That's kind of the vibe I always got. Yeah. No, I mean, it's like a little bit of a difference. The thing about Miami guys is the high energy and the things they said, but they were like, you said it like they were dogs, man, like they were hard, the hardest working guys in college, the hardest working guys in the league. Like everybody that came out of Miami, everybody that I played with, everybody that I played with in the NFL, Miami guys, you never had to worry about like their work ethic, how hard they competed, their toughness, like, and I think that's why they always had the respect of their teammates and the respect of everybody around them. Yeah, so for sure. Thank you to our sponsor, Reese's Oreo cups. Oh yeah, Reese's cups with Oreo cookie crumbs. It's what we've been asking for. That's what we've been asking for. It's what everybody's been asking for. How about him? And seriously, can anyone name a more legendary snack than Reese's and Oreo? Did you put them together? And it's like, it's perfection. I don't think I can name another one. 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McDarman. Damn it. They fired McDarman again. They fired McDarman and this TV should end easy. That's right, let it. Names the worst over here, the absolute worst. It is hard. And by the way, I have to give you your flowers from the jump. You are the best at it right now, brother. My favorite is to 90% percenters. I don't give a shit if you think I'm biased. This man is the best calling the games right now and I fucking love every single game that I get to listen to. Thanks, buddy. I love my guy Troy at ESPN, Troy and Joe, Joe Buck are phenomenal. Yeah, they do great. They're not trying to throw shade anywhere, but I will say it's pretty routinely acknowledged from players that Greg offers some of the best insight at of all time calling games. And he made some fun, man. I think there's some good times, baby. Well, the tie energy is good times, but there's really good insight that I think you could tell, I mean, everybody's brought this up, like you're the son of a coach, like the way you think about the game is very holistic. You're very caught up with the analytics. Like I'm not telling you anything you know, but as a player, we all just enjoy how much you put into it and it's apparent. And it's every time I get the chance to listen to Greg Olson, I come away learning something as a professional player that played 13 years, which I think is just awesome. Means a lot. I appreciate that, guys. I enjoyed doing it and coming from you guys. I know you're not biased. I know it's not. I get it. It means a lot more coming from you guys than you know. So I appreciate that. All right. Now let's get into this Bill's Broncos game right now. The bills are taking some heat. Mick Dermott just got canned. And Josh Allen is getting some heat for not being the Broncos. That's on the game, Greg. Yeah, just kind of an interesting divisional weekend, right? You had some, you had two overtime thrillers. You had one just absolute dog of the game that that got away up in Seattle. And then one kind of a clunky game with the Texans. And you know, that game kind of got weird and you know, what not. And New England played well enough. Didn't necessarily play great, but you know, just a struggle. So it's kind of a weird weekend all around. Usually the divisional round is when it gets really fun. It kind of flipped this year. The wild card weekend was incredible. I mean, every game was just was down to the wire for the most part. But yeah, I mean, you brought up the bills. You know, I hate it for McDermott. So McDermott got hired there from Carolina. He was our coordinator. We had a lot of success with him. Brandon Bean, the general manager. He was the assistant general manager. He cut his teeth here in Carolina and McDermott brought Brandon from from us to Buffalo. So to see them kind of have to start from scratch. I love McDermott. They've been there for nine years. A lot of those coaches are guys that I played for and worked with. You know, so you guys know it sucks to see guys lose their job in any team, right? No one roots for coaches to be fired players, especially hate it. The one thing about the league is, you know, changes inevitable and, you know, you have a guy like Josh Allen and, you know, here you are year after year, just getting right to the end and they just can't get over the hump. And then I think, you know, a lot of people saw this opportunity with, with you guys, Traff, not being in it for the first time in a while. I think a lot of people saw this as Josh's opportunity to like, all right, get over the hump, right? No, my homes, no burrow, no Lamar, get those premiere guys out of the way and here's your opportunity. But, you know, as you guys well know, it's, it's never as simple as that. I think while Josh Allen is incredible and I'd argue he's, he's the best player. If not, he's the top three player on any given year in the league. But, um, you know, the roster, they got holes. They had issues. You know, giving up 30 plus on defense. And certainly he made his fair share mistakes in that last game. But their margin for error was just so small. I think the roster was okay. I don't think it was a great roster. It was elevated by a generationally talented quarterback. And, uh, ownership just realized a same old story every year and we're going to try something different and it sucks. But it's the nature of this business. Well said. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing with the Josh Allen, I guess noise out there. Like everybody's crushing them. Well, not everybody. He's getting his fair share of criticism. And rightfully so at least two of the like turnovers are blatant mistakes, right? It shouldn't happen. But at the same time, it's hard to criticize them because like the only reason that team had the season that did and got there was because of him. And like there was plenty of other times have that game go their way. Uh, and Josh made a bunch of plays in it as well. So I don't know, man, it's, it's a hard one to say because you obviously want to hold him accountable. You want to hold him a German accountable. But like again, both of those guys, I don't know that either of them was the reason that they haven't accomplished it yet. Yeah. It feels like they've always been missing pieces here or there. That often, do you take away Josh Allen? Like they're outside of James Cook who really stresses the defense that much, right? Like the offensive line is great. They have a great run game and Josh just makes tons of plays. But um, yeah. It's, that's a trick you want for sure. I don't know. Where do you sit with? I guess Josh's performance. Like how would you go about grading that as, as an analyst? Yeah. So I, you know, I think what you have to be careful is just saying like your performance in this one given moment. Like how did you play in the divisional round? I think there's a lot of examples. And we can go back just this year, you know, and just the last couple of weeks of playoff games where, you know, would you say Drake may had his best game in the play come the postseason? He hasn't probably played his best. But CJ Stroud turned them all over 15 times. It felt like and they win. So he gets another crack at it. And Stafford certainly hasn't been as good in the postseason. He's going to be the MVP most likely. But, you know, in the regular season, he was incredible. I had him in that wild card round. Like they almost lost the Carolina. He made some incredible plays down the stretch. But he wasn't great that whole game to the standard that they've said you touched on. Obviously, Drake may not play in as good as he would have hoped yet. CJ Stroud. I mean, we used to call that being in the matrix, right? Like, you don't know what's up. What's down? Like you are just rattled. What? If you're out there, you're a teammate. What are you saying to this guy to try and whether this or as a coach, even like, how do you get somebody kind of out of that and back into a rhythm? Yeah. So I think two full. It's a great question, right? Cause watching it just as a fan and I like CJ. He's a great kid. I've always enjoyed to tell you I've been around him. Sure. Have a lot of respect for him and obviously super talented to watch a kid watch a guy at any position. But especially the quarterback clearly out of sorts. And the ball coming out of his hand, the weather clearly affected him. Then it starts getting mental that every ball he threw was like a hope in a prayer. And it just kind of spiraled the way on him, especially there in the first half. It just kills you. Like you never want to see someone struggle like that. So I think in the moment, there's one way to handle it, right? There's, you know, the coaches need to do a good job with play calling and play sequencing and giving them easy completions. As teammates, make a play for and make a contested catch, right? Give them more time if you're past protecting or, you know, we got to get open quicker and separate and give them an easy target. So I think there's things you can do on the field. Then there's the sideline interaction. You know, obviously you want to be positive. You want to be encouraging. You want to treat try to keep him going. So in the game, I think there's a lot of people coaches, players, teammates that can do a lot to try to unburden him. Like take some of the load off of his back because obviously he's feeling it pile on. And then I think even more importantly, like how do they handle it now? Right? So the game's over. They lost the season's done. They have a lot of their future tied to him being their quarterback for the next 10 years. How does the organization? How does Demiko Ryan's? How does the ownership in front office? How do they handle him? Right? You can't just say, hey, don't worry about it. Go on vacation. We'll see it next week. But you also can't crush them. So I think it's going to be a very delicate balance. And they're going to have to go about that in the right way because holding a guy accountable and not crushing his spirit, who's the future. As we all know, is a very fine line. And if they don't straddle it's a way away. And it goes too far. Other end, they jeopardize a lot of their future. It's tough, man. Absolutely. People are also saying his stuff is officiating a catch because the builds fans and really the off-roar of the entire this divisional round. From what I caught on the aftermath was, you know, the catch in the bills game versus the catch in the Rams game. Between Devante, but this bills, the deep throw to Brandon Cooks. How did you see it? Did they get it right from from your view? I think they did. I think because the catch was going to the ground, he's not down by contact until the fall through the ground is completed. So I get the frustration. If I was the offensive player, if I was on the bills, I would have been fighting my ass off too. Right. But when you take a step back and you just evaluate, now we can debate whether that rule is sound. We can debate whether the catch rules are clear or not. And that's a legitimate debate that needs to be had. But as it's currently written, while the process was clunky and mis-inbad communication and poorly handled and all that taken away, it was it was a correct call in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Joe Burrow agreed. He said the amount of people that don't understand what a catch is in the rulebook. Flabberg asked me. Joe came out of retirement. He had it repeated two years. I don't think I've seen say anything ever. Oh, but said Joe was so fired up over going to the ground reception. It got him out of hibernation. Listen, if you're going to watch the game, you got to know the rules. And I'm flabbergasted if you don't. Flabberg and what a great word. I love it. I don't even care what he said to the world. I'm just glad he used the word flabbergast. Totally. Greg, you're you're the bill's gym. You know, you know, being what do you think this team needs from a coaching player all of it? You know, it's a great question. And I was talking to a buddy about it this morning. And if I'm if I'm brand of being and I'm ownership and I have the magic wand, I think there's a lot of Buffalo Bill's fans right now that are saying, wait a minute, we just went from decades of a relevance to nine really good years. And again, never made it too super bowl, but like we we put the Buffalo Bill's on the mat more than they had in decades prior to the German getting there. So I'm looking at this saying, okay, everyone wants to make change, but how often do we see change and the guy making into the new guy not being as good as the old guy, right? We're trying to replace 10 NFL coaches right now. Can we all sit here and say these 10 coaches are going to be better than the guys they replace? Odds tell us they're not. Odds tell us it's not how it works. So especially not the first year. Yeah. No. Yeah. Now the advantage you get is you get the inherent Josh Allen who's who makes a little of these margins a little bit wider. Yeah. But if I'm them, I think I'm getting away from defense. I don't think I can sell to my fans, even if it's the right move, I don't think I can sell to fans and to ownership. We're going to replace a very successful defensive minded coach and just replace him with another defensive minded coach. So my gut is I think they go the offensive route. I think the pendulum swings to the other side, you know, do they? Do they just promote Joe Brady who has a really good relationship with Josh Allen? And again, I'm speculating. But like, do they? Do they go with Joe and say, you know what? Let's focus there. Let's stay consistent on the offensive side of the ball. Let's not worry about replacing that that play call our over years. And then we can go out and get one of these defensive coordinators, you know, who's a former head coach, right? Do you get Jonathan Ganon? No, you know, the big fangeos of the world, right? Who you get them and you just say lock them in the room and you have the defense and we don't have to worry about it for a long time. So those guys are all over the place. Typically, there's more defensive guys that are available than offensive guys at that level. So that's what I would do, right? Do they bring back Dable? Do they bring, you know, do they promote Joe Brady? I think it's going to be an offensive guy. I just think for a lot of reasons for Josh, for getting that offensive past game and everything organized consistently over time. And also, more so than anything else, just sell it to the fan base. I think that's a big part of this. Well, speaking of the fan base, the fan base has been floating out a guy who's been undefeated in years past. Do you know Brandon Bean from your time in Carolina? Like Jason said, I think your name has been floated out there. Would you would you consider being an NFL coach? You know, it all depends on what my future looks like on new heights. Like if this is going to be recurring, I think if this is going to be recurring, and this is something that I stay, I just can't, I can't make my schedule. I apparently you guys couldn't get a hold of me for all these years. Apparently, I was so hard to get a hold of that. I don't want a cloudy and muddy my schedule up to not be available. So we'll talk offline. about what my future looks like here with you guys. But, you know, in all seriousness, I've had coaches never to be a head coach, but I've had head coaches text me or call me and say, "Hey, would you ever consider it if we had a spot?" And I've always, you know, you're always flattered and you're always, you know, it's nice. I'm not sure right now being in a, now you told me I could be the head coach, that's a different story. - All right, now we're entering into a new world, but you know, the idea of coaching is something I love, the idea of, as fun as TD is, and I love it, and my plan is to do this for 30 years. We'll see what the, you guys know, and Jason, you're going through it right now. Like, as fun as game day is in the booth, and on set, and in the studio, it's just different, not like, you're watching these guys prepare for the game. You're watching warmups, you're watching the thrill of victory, the agony of these bone crushing losses, the locker room, the guys, the relationships, the hard times. Like, you're never gonna fill that. Like, that never gets filled. What we do in TV is really close to it from like a competitive, and like, you're in the juice. Coaching's probably a little bit closer to the action. You're like, truly living and dying 'cause you are impacting the game. That appeals to me. I love that competitive element of it. If by some randomness I was ever considered for a job, it's something I would definitely consider, but I don't sit here right now, pursuing that. It's not something I picture myself doing at a, any higher level than I'm doing it right now with 14 year old kids, but I like doing the TV stuff. It keeps me involved in the game a lot, and I get my competitive coaching fix, yelling at younger kids. I don't want to get in there and have to start yelling at you. What the hell am I gonna say? What am I gonna say? Greg, you gotta coach me a little, man. Oh, just keep getting open, and throw him the ball. Make this shit too hard. Hey, you see that guy right there? He's gonna be open, throw it to him. Deal. Well, everybody sees how good of a coach you could possibly be. That's why we had to ask. But if there was, if there was an opportunity, let's say, I'll ask this. Among all the open head coaching jobs right now, which one is the most appealing if you are looking to be a head coach? That's a great question. So I think right now Buffalo is very appealing because every coach wants a quarterback, right? Every coach feels it's the hardest position to get. And if I have one, now I can put all of my focus everywhere else. If you inherit one of these jobs, and you have to put, and most likely these jobs, a lot of them are open because the teams weren't very good. A lot of them, generally speaking, you're trying to find the quarterback and build your staff and build the roster and in, and it's just, it's, it's so hard. So, you know, you walk into Buffalo, you say, okay, that box is checked for eternity. I can put all of my time and effort into everything else. How do I show up my defense, my own line, you know, what not? So Buffalo feels like the best job just from that standpoint alone. Another one that's intriguing is Baltimore. Baltimore, Lamar is a fucking generational talent. He's a guy that, yeah. And a lot of really, really fucking good players on that team. Obviously, a unique set of like, like a unique skill set in terms of the type of offense that they've been running, but I think it's still, it's gonna be very interesting to see who lands there and how that team changes as well. - Yeah, that's a fascinating one. And again, you move off of, it goes back to our earlier question about, you know, you make change because you're unhappy with the current status quo. And that's ownership. The ownership has the right to do that. You get rid of a guy like John Harbaugh, are you convinced that you can replace him with a better coach? And maybe they do. And certainly we've seen it go both ways, but like, that's a tall task. That's not a given just because you make change that it's gonna be changed for the better. So I agree with you. They've got some really unique pieces there on offense. Obviously, again, quarterback being checked with Lamar is a great place to start. But I'm with you, Trevor. I think that's gonna be fascinating to see, do they go offense? Do they go different? Do they go back to like leader of men and kind of stay in that same Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin type vibe, which both Pittsburgh and Baltimore have been for a long time? Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm with you. I think that's gonna be very fascinating to see how ownership in the front office kind of decides to move forward there. It's, you gotta, you gotta bring in somebody with that similar toughness, man. I just, I really just don't see it panning out, man, but it's got, you gotta have that toughness as a coach, especially in that division with those teams. Yeah, no doubt. Well, if you want to be an offensive coordinator, we do have a position open and Philadelphia Greg. We could really use your help with. We need some expertise in the building. I love Seriani. I actually texted him a little bit 'cause I ran into his brother-in-law to Miami game. So I, I was texted with him. We were just kind of shooting the shit a little bit. I love Seriani. And I know he gets a lot of flack and people wanna come after him. I love him. I love his, I love his energy. I love his edge. I love the way he manages the game. I, you know, I end up fighting the entire universe on behalf of him a couple of weeks ago. That was a losing proposition. I don't know if you guys are familiar with social media, but not, not worthwhile. I don't know if you guys are new to this. I think, if I'm an offensive play caller, I'm doing everything in my power to get that job. I wanna go carry offensive plays in Philadelphia because you can do whatever you want. And be good boys and men. That's a great job. And when that old line gets healthy too, holy shit. That's a great job. You wanna get into this Nikki Folls situation? Now that we're talking a little Eagles offense. Scope, baby. So Nick Folls offered up some advice. Obviously Broncos losing Bo Nick's going into the biggest game of his career. Jared Stidham will start for the Broncos. Has not thrown a pass all season long and is in the AFC Championship against the Patriots and the fighting Mike Raebles, man. Nick Folls offered up some advice on social media. Note for the Broncos and their friends. I know it's been an emotional 24 hours. I feel for Bo and the team and I'm sending prayers for a strong recovery, a positive note though on going into a game versus the Patriots is that they struggle against back-and-cubes in Championship-type games. It's an all-time tweet from Nick. How many read tweets is it up to? Brandon, what do we have? As of yesterday, it was like 20,000. 20,000? It was like 20,000, I think, at one point. I thought, I thought so. I might be making that up, hold on. It's gotta be something ridiculous. Maybe I made that up, hold on. No, 23k with 17 million views and 200,000 fucking likes. Deservedly so. You're talking about using social media with a great kind of, as a craft. That was a really well-worded, well-timed, obviously the internet loved it. And super relevant because. Yeah, yeah, stay positive boys. Yeah, yeah, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit. Anything's possible. I mean, when's was gonna be the MVP? You guys replaced potentially the MVP of the league that year and won the Super Bowl. Shrieking Nikki Falls, man. It was wild and I still remember when it went down and I still remember you could hear a pin drop in the locker room. We knew as ACL was torn in the locker room after the game. You're like, dude, what is gonna happen? How are we gonna overcome this? We just lost our starting quarterback. And thankfully Malcolm Jenkins was up as a, hey, we still got a great team and Nick Foles has played a lot of football here. We had all played with them under chips. So we kind of had a lot of familiar and confidence with Nick and it took us a couple games. That's the one thing that Stidham doesn't have. Like we got the rest of the off, the rest of the season and kind of warmed into that role. It's gonna be as, I mean, Sean Payton is one of the all-time schemers and he was in his bag this last week in the bills. Like we had a thick six, freaking had a bootleg throwback at the end of the half. Like he was dialing him up in that game as well. So everybody has to see what he kind of has suited this coming week against the Patriots. I don't really know. I mean, I wanna see Stidham play well. Do you, are you familiar with Stidham at all? - Yeah, I mean, I know him enough. You know, he came out, got drafted by the Patriots oddly enough. But again, just hasn't played a ton. Obviously hasn't thrown a pass this season. So just not a ton of experience. I do know just from talking to people around there that Sean Payton does have a lot of confidence in him. Like he views him as like a, like a sleeper backup. But and again, it is isn't a knock on him. But what you said is exactly right. He has no runway, right? There's no like, hey, give him a couple weeks. He'll find his footing. There's no best to seven series. He doesn't get to come back on Monday and play again. Like this is it. And you're playing against, you know, one of the top teams in the league, arguably the best story in football and Drake who's gonna be up for, you know, in the running with Stafford and MVP. So tall task, you get it at home, which is certainly helpful. And, but yeah, it's a, it's a, I mean, just could you imagine, I mean, you went through it, but could you imagine you just win an overtime football game in the playoffs to go to the AFC championship. And you're walking off your, your loving life, your quarterback's doing a press conference, sideline hit all this and you walk into the locker room. And I don't even think 30 minutes had passed before Sean Payton broke the news in the press conference. Not only that he broke his ankle, that he was done for the season. Like he didn't say we're going to reevaluate tomorrow. Like typically he's done. Yeah. Could you imagine the mixed emotions? It's everything you said you went through with wints to goals, but six days before the AFC championship. AFC championship, like I cannot imagine wake, what their day was like the next day waking up and having to piece it together. - Right, absolutely. wow, Stidham has some live bullets though. Like he's played, he's played some ball in the National Football League. So I don't think he cones in there with just absolutely, you know, no confidence. Obviously he's got a great team around him. He's got Sean Peyton dialing those things up for him. And I think I think it'll actually be better than what people are assuming. Obviously, Bo Nick's is an unbelievable talent. What he can do with his feet is arms outside of the pocket. He's he's more of a gamer. And in the fourth quarter, he does have that ability to just make the fucking crazy as play or make make the big play, the game changing play. And Stidham definitely is going to have to come in and show us that he's ready for that moment. But I think it's going to be closer and just a better game than kind of how it feels knowing that one of the best players in the league isn't going to be played. Who do we think is going to take the NFC? Switch over. Switch conferences. We had two, well, we had one amazing game in the Rams versus the Bears. And then one just complete blowout with Seattle. How do you see that shaking out? Cause Seattle just looks like unbeatable on defensive. The way they have swarmed to the ball that are good at every level, subsurbed. Yeah. Seattle's defense is incredible. And, you know, I'd say probably the back half of the season, I was fortunate to have a couple Seattle games, couple Rams games had the Rams first round of the playoff. So like we had enough time kind of taking them in and kind of getting a picture of of what they looked like. And I thought going into the playoffs, the Rams and the Seahawks were the best two teams in either side in either the AFC or the NFC side of the playoffs. I think they were the most balanced. I think they had the quarterback play, the offense's ability to score points. And then obviously being very good on defense. That Seattle defense to me is how every defense in the league would want to be created, right? They're, they're, they're little, they manage the game up front. They're going to play with five or six DBS, the entire game. They've got a lot of like positionless hybrid type second and third level players. They keep a lid on it. They play fast. They play in space. But then you still can't run the ball. Like you're saying, oh, we got all these light boxes and they're in nickel. They're in dime. We're just going to beat them up. And you can't gain a yard. They're really physical up front. They've got good running chase players at the second level. Like, and I think Mike McDonald's is the defense of equivalent of like McVey on offense. So, yeah. I think Seattle's probably the most well-rounded team in the league. I felt that way kind of down the stretch. I feel even more so about that going into this weekend's game. I love McVey. I think McVey is very unique. I think he's incredible. Stafford's probably going to be the MVP of all the NFC matchups. It's probably the best matchup. If you could have picked before the playoffs, I got who do we want playing in Seattle? Yeah. I think the last time they played, it was damn fireworks. It was incredible. So that's the game I'm most looking forward to. And I think it's clearly the best two teams for sure in the NFC. But if not, I think in a lot of ways are the best two teams in the entire playoffs. I'm right there with you. Obviously, Seattle, Seattle, we just talked about that defense, how they fly around the energy that that team plays with. Yeah. The, the, both, the, it feels like they got a lot of young guys that just love the fucking play ball. And they have this, they have this camaraderie. And those teams with the juice, man, they just, it just feels like those teams find ways to win at the end. And it goes back to what you were saying, how the Rams and Seahawks played their last game was a fucking insane, crazy ending to the game. And you can just see it was like, it was like stars were coming out of, of, of, of this Seattle team of like when they made plays, AJ Barner, our, our, our tight end, our fellow tight end and over there in Seattle, man, one of my favorite guys, a young guy, a swag champ kind of guy that, that, that, that just come out, kind of like brings everyone together. They have guys like that on the offensive side, defensive side. And I just think that team right now is going to be so fucking difficult to beat, especially when you got Walker running for how, like, how, like how aggressive and, and, and hit in the second level with speed, man. That's, uh, that's going to be a fucking tough team to beat. And the Rams, the Rams snuck by the Bears, dude. That game was a fun game to watch. An old soldier, feel, baby, a familiar place that you know, Greg. And when that place is fucking rocking, man, it is a, it is a fucking, it is a different type of, uh, of energy, man, I got to see one of Jason's games, the double dork, man, shout out the nags, love nags, but I got to see the double dork when, uh, Jason was playing over there in Chicago. And you just, you, it's a different type of atmosphere when the Bears are fucking in it, man, when the Bears have a fucking chance. And right now they got, they, they, they, have one of the best and most exciting quarterbacks in the league, young and, and, and you're starting to see these unbelievable plays kind of unfold his ability to make this magic that he had in college. It started to get comfortable in the NFL. And he's starting to make these crazy plays that fourth down. And for us, of course, throwing it to our guy, Colcomat, man, shout out the tightheads everywhere right now, make a place, uh, Colcomat, man, that was one of the craziest fucking plays I've ever seen in my life. And I still get chills watching, uh, all the different camera angles from the stands. And I'm just happy for Chicago to finally get something that they can go out there and fucking cheer for, man. I'm not sure if there's a cooler city in the country as when their team is good than Chicago. And I was fortunate I got there when that, when I got drafted there was on right off their Super Bowl loss. They lost Indianapolis a couple months later. I got drafted there. It took us a couple years. We didn't make the playoffs. And my fourth year, we made the playoffs. We ended up hosting the Packers in the NFC championship game. It turned out to be my last game. I got traded that next off season to Carolina. But man, I got to see it firsthand. You know, it's, it's snowing. The crowd, the city, the stadium is in the heart of the city, which is very unique. And you know, you don't see that a lot anymore with where they're built. It's just, it's a city that just loves their sports. They love the bears. They've had a history of all, you know, between the cubs and the white socks and the bulls and the black hawks, like, black hawks, they had a lot of success. But man, they want the bears to win again. They want it is a fair city. And football rules is right. So it's, it was cool. I mean, watching that game in the snow, Kayla backpedal and throwing a 17 yard past 50 yards in the air. It felt like that ball was in the air for three days. And when he threw it, and when you threw it, everyone was like, Oh my God, that's what the end of the season came down to. It was like a punt. And then sure, shit, Colcomets wide open right in the old bread, basket. Man, it was, I thought they were going to go for two. Ben Johnson had been so aggressive in the playoffs going for it on fourth down, did it against Green Bay in the wild card round, going for it on fourth, continuing to push the envelope and then had a chance there. I thought he was going to go for two elected to go to overtime and with these new overtime rules and you can debate how you handle it. But man, that was a heartbreaking way for Chicago's season. But the Rams have won both games that way. You know, I was there in Carolina calling that game when it looked like Carolina took the lead with two minutes and they look like they were going to win. And Stafford makes plays and, you know, make they pull plays out of his ass and puts it all together. They have to. He's so talented and so unique. But man, it tight ends, but you're tight ends all over the world. There's a lot going on here. I mean, what the Rams are doing with their dudes. It's a fun time to be an NFL fan. It's a fun time to just sit back as just a casual observer and just take in exciting. I wouldn't say good football. There's a lot of bad football going on. But man, it is fun football. And these last couple of weeks of the playoffs have been awesome. Give me fired up for this round, baby. This fucking goal. Yeah. So we got Ram C Hawks. We talked about it a little bit. But it just feels like that's going to be the game that that, you know, the team that goes on is going to win the Super Bowl. Man, it just, it just feels like they're both those teams. The Rams having that veteran presence that that we've done up before. We've got the guys. And then the Seahawks of like this new magic and Sam Darnel playing his tail off and the run game and the excitement and the juice. It just feels like right now the NFC is cooking, man. That's kind of how I view it. And I think it does run and then obviously it complicates things now with Denver's chances and all the stuff we've talked about. So fascinating final four, maybe not the final four. Everyone would have imagined for sure when the season started, but maybe not even down the last couple weeks. So that's what makes the NFL king. And one one game series, man, they're so challenging. And you know, you guys have been on the good and the bad. I've been on more of the bad than the good compost season. But those one game series, man, they'll get you. They will, man. So it makes football the fucking best, maybe a little championship weekend. Thank you for your partner, Expedia when we travel. We like to keep things simple and Expedia is an all in one travel shop when planning trips, such right flights hotels, vacation rentals, cars, all the activities. It's right there. Come on now. Maybe Expedia is the only way you need to travel. It handles everything that you need in terms of entertainment, fun, travel stay. I mean, you name it, man. It's got it all covered. And when you're doing big family trips or trips with the fellas, yeah, or the ladies, um, it gets complicated fast. I mean, different people, different schedules, different opinions. 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Just the dedication draft, and it makes sense 'cause that cane sauce is unmatched. And don't even get me started on that Texas toast. - All right now. - Yeah, and now they have over 900 restaurants, so you no longer have to make the long drive over to Columbus. - Damn straight, I do not. It's right down the street. Jason, what's your go-to order at Cains? - Chicken figures. - I love it, man, that's my favorite order too, Jason. But we gotta give a shout out to the owner and founder, Todd Graves, man, such a good dude. Don't wait another day to try the best chicken fingers in the game, Raisin Cains is waiting for you. - Thank you, Joe, a sponsor all-state. - Checking all-state first could save you hundreds on car insurance. That's smart. Not checking the car lights are off before heading in for the night. Not smart, that's gonna hurt in the morning. - Yeah, yeah. 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Because it looks like you are a pro at wedding. - No, it's Matt, I mean, let's just be honest with you. - I just want to be clear here for anyone, for Jason, for anyone, potentially getting married, there's a lot of people saying it. I don't say it, but there's a lot of people saying it. Like, if you want it to be memorable and you want there to be great energy and great camaraderie and fellowship and moments, like, I'm at the top of the list. - No pressure. We don't do pity, we don't do pity invites. Listen, you want guys that bring it and have a lot of fun and condense with grandma or the bride or the bride's maid or the, we get, we're very, very, it's like the tight end position. We're very multiple, we're very versatile. A lot of different music, we can go journey, we can go Rihanna, we can do a lot of different things. We can karaoke, if it gets crazy, had a lot of fun in McCaffrey's wedding, as you saw. - As you can see, yeah, a lot of good dudes there. - Oh, all time. We had a blast. It was like a reunion. All right, so five must-haves at a wedding from the guy's perspective, from the guy's perspective. - Yes, but guys, yes, guys. - Yeah, so music runs the show. So I would say number one, don't go too long on the ceremony. - There you go. - You got to do the ceremony and you got to have your moment and your love, but like. - It's come. - Everyone's really excited to get to the cocktail hour. - Everyone's excited. Don't lose the energy. - Yeah, so let's find a balance between like honoring each other and getting this thing started off the right way, but also realizing why everybody came. So let's not go too long on the ceremony. Number two, like cocktail party, cocktail hours got to be incredible. While bride and groom, while you guys are off, take it pictures, and doing your thing, like we need to have great cocktails. We need to have great finger foods. Everyone's hungry, right? I want a little sushi. I want a little shrimp cocktail. - Nice. - I want like really good little like finger crab cakes. I think cocktail hour really sets the tone. The music. I think you can go either way. I've seen great like, like big, big bands that can play anything, multiple different singers. And it's awesome. DJs can also work great. Music is critical. You got to keep people out there. You got to keep people engaged on the dance floor. I don't even know how many things I just gave. Was that free? - That's four. Give us one more. - That's four. All right. So one more. Yeah, and this sounds cheesy, but like you just got to have your people there, right? Like you got to have your people that you want to share this moment with because you're going to wake up the next morning for breakfast and meet your family and friends and you're going to reminisce. It's like college, right? You wake up after the night before. The best part was talking about the night before and rehashing all the moments and all that. So I want to make sure you have your people there that mean a lot to you, that you want to share hopefully the best day of your life with and be able to live. Oh, and film it. I regret not filming my wedding. We did a photographer, no videographer. And I regret it. I would love to be able to show my kids my wife and I's wedding. We only have photos. Big regret. So I'm actually going to move that like besides me, I'm going to move that like way up the list. Way up the list. - No. - Get that shit on video. Take notes, Brandon. All right. Who is the more eccentric quarterback, Jay Cutler or Cam Newton? - Oh, wow. That's a good question. - So my, my, my understanding of what that word of what like eccentric means, I'd say Cam. - Yeah. - Jay wasn't necessarily eccentric as much as he was just Jay, right? Like Jay had a very, and the only thing about Jay is he was pretty consistent. Like, you knew what you were going to get. He was a good teammate. He worked hard. He was tough. I always had a great relationship with Jay. Not everyone did. He wasn't for everyone. The personality. There was a little abrasive. Me and Jay always had a great relationship. He was always great to me and my family. We had a lot of good moments together in our short time, you know, the couple of years that we played before I got traded. So I had nothing but good things to say about Jay in a lot of ways. Cam was Cam. I mean, you see it now, right? You turn on first take and he's got the gear and the hat and yeah, and, and you know, he's always had his little flair from the time he got drafted, right? It started with the little, um, that he had like a little like, I don't know if he's a, uh, it was like a tale of some sort like you would hang out. What was it? It was a fox tail. It's a fox tail. A fox tail. A fox tail. So you cool guys. Yeah. I can't wear a fox tail. Um, I'll tell you what, Travis, you could probably get away, like, there's very few guys that can wear what Cam wears. I think Travis, to a degree, like, you could pull it off. People would look at me and be like, that guy's a douchebag. I think people would look at Travis. Oh, wait. And be like, that dude's fucking cool. Like, I want to hang with that guy. That's right. But no, Cam, if Cam was coming out with a line of, of, of the top hats and the suits and the scar. If he's coming out with a line, I'm fucking getting. I need one of the hats and he should send him that easily, easily. All right. So I actually own like four, they're called Meshika free plug. Not. Oh, nice. Okay, Meshika. All right. So I think of the hats that he ended up like either buying the company or investing in the company. I don't know the exact specifics. Yeah. So I actually have a few somewhere gifted to me, one at Cam's Super Bowl party years ago in Atlanta. That's dope. There's a confident element to that. Answer your question. Cam. And I mean that in like the most loving and endearing way, because I've been very consistent in my messaging about Cam's impact on my career and our relationship and friendship. Like, I love Cam for who he is. Yeah. He is who he is. Nice. Well, using a former teammate fill in the blank, people forget that blank was a problem. Oh, man. That's a great question, right? And the college could be NFL, man, that's a great. I think back to, you know, in college in the NFL, I think of like a guy like Devon Hester, but I don't think people forgot that he's amazing. You know what I'm going to say? Because I saw him last night and I think he's a perfect answer for this is Frank Gore. I think we'll Frank be in the whole thing. Maybe I don't know, but I'll tell you what, anyone who's watched football, studied football, knows anything about football, he would be on a very short list of guys that probably has universal respect from every player teammate coach who's ever seen him. And I got to spend some time in the last night at the Miami game. And he was a teammate of mine for a couple of years in college. So I'm going to go with Frank because some of these are stars that I've played with Cam and Luke Kekely and Steve Smith and Devon Hester and Brian Erlacher and Julius Peppers and these hall of fame guys that I played with. I don't know. Like people remember them. I don't think people appreciate how amazing Frank was. And so he's my answer. It's a great answer. I will say people definitely don't appreciate how much of a physical freaking specimen Julius Peppers is. And his voice, like this dude, the way Julius Peppers had it, he was like, what in the, this like the predator is just on the field playing a football game right now. Like this is ridiculous. No, but you know that meme online where like people say like for every like and they like slowly make the guys head bigger or like every time I saw Julius Peppers, he grew three inches. Like I saw him early in my career when he was in Carolina and I was like, oh my god, this guy, he's like six, five, he's a freak. And then I played with him in Chicago and he felt like he was six, seven and then I played with him again. back to Carolina. And I feel like he was seven feet tall. Like every time I saw him, the biggest guy in the world got bigger. Yeah. How is it possible? Insane. He's, he's insane. All right. Very important. Next question. It's Girl Scout cookie season officially. Oh, top three, go. Finments. Love it. Finment. Finment. Finment. Finment, this stuff is hammering clean sweep of thinments. Yeah. I'm hammering. Like I'm not even opening. I mean, if you give me any of the, what's the like, um, like the real pop, the real like famous original one, it's like the cracker, like the white. I know. It's like the traditional, like, safe one. People would like dip it. Yeah, like a vanilla cookie. Yeah, whatever that is called. I mean, if there's a box there, I'll eat the whole box. I'm not saying I'm too good for it. But I'm picking thin mint, like a thousand out of a thousand. Thin mint is great. But there's something weird. Have you noticed that there's like different, there's like two different thin mints, depending on which Girl Scout area you're in. Maybe I'm too neat and maybe you're deep in the weeds. You're deep in it. There's, there's like an illuminati apparently of, of, of, uh, Girl Scouts. There's the one thin mint that almost has like a softer mint in the middle of it, where it's like a interesting. But then there's the other one that's like a harder one. I like the hard one. Like I don't know which one you're on. I don't, to be honest with you, I'm not sure if I even know the difference. All I know is the whole sleeve is gone. It's in your mouth. It's gone. It's gone. Yeah, we were, we were tag along thin mints and then there was the coconut one. It was like a car. It was a Camaro. It was a caramel like drizzle on top, dude. I'm like, a lot of those things are cracked. Those things got me hooked right now. They, they called them Samoa's, but I am. Samoa's got canceled. Carmel Delights. Yeah. Carmel Delights. Yeah. There we go. I'll eat them all. I'm not too good for a cookie. Yeah. I do. I do. Do you give me glass of milk? Let's fucking, let's cook. Oh man. Um, be honest, there's the guy who called Super Bowl 57. How sick of the Kelsey family. Were you on game day? Let me, let me, let me, let me say this. That was a really cool week. As a guy who like has two brothers and grew up with them and like played together, fought with them, fought against each other, all that. Like we got to sit down and go, I don't know if you guys remember we sat down and did that. Of course. For the pregame show. Hell yes. That was awesome. Even though you guys made me late because you were filming this, but it's fine. It was worth it. That's when you first told me you were going to have me on the show. And that was like three years ago. But it's fine. Apparently, I changed my number. It's the same place that my invite is. But anyway, no, man, I thought it was so cool. Like in all seriousness, like seeing you guys have all of that culminate to play each other. Be so willing to like openly and share it with the world. Share it with me, which was cool. And then like your parents and your mom and your families, like it's been cool to watch you guys have like your separate deal. And then like over time, bring you together and have like that moment. I think watching like Jason watching after the game, the emotions of like, yeah, my brother one, but everyone who has a brother, anyone who has a sibling for that matter knows the feeling of like, I want what's best for me. But if I don't get it, I'd rather you get it right. So like there's this weird. So like watching all that play out on the world stage that week, like I thought it was awesome. And I think the way you guys have handled all of it and your relationship and your families. And you have the second biggest podcast in the family, which is cool. I think it's pretty, I think it's pretty awesome. So no, I'm if I was sick of the Kelsey's I wouldn't be sitting here for the last. What's the worst game you've ever called? Wow. I've called some clunkers. I'm trying to remember off the top of my head. I called a really bad game this year. What was it? It was towards the end of the season. Oh, Minnesota. I want to say Minnesota went to Seattle. Oh, yeah. And JJ McCarthy got hurt the week before. So they started to rookie Brosmer. And again, I'm not knocking the kid because a lot of guys have looked bad going to Seattle. And I can't recall exactly off the top of my head. But I want to say Minnesota had like 50 yards. The whole game, maybe less. And it by the second quarter, you're looking at my partner, Joe, we're just looking at each other like I got nothing. I got nothing. I got nothing. What are you doing that situation? How do you like? How do you weather that and keep the excitement that you just got to the rule of thumb? And I don't think there's any like again, by no means am I an expert. I haven't been doing this very long. But like I think our rule of thumb is get to like half time up to half time, regardless of what the score is. Make it about the game, make it about the teams, make it about the matchup, make it about the personalities and whatever. Second half, when it's clearly it's 35 six, it's 35 nothing and it's over, you know, you start zooming out and you try to, you have all these things you call it like a bucket. Like we got to empty the bucket. We got playoff standings. We've got coach of the year. We've got trends around the league. And you just turn into like a daytime radio show, right? And you're just, you just, sometimes it goes really off the rails and you start just talking about complete nonsense. And you know, you kind of like black out, you know, you're you're like Will Farrell in the old school. You don't even know what you just said. We're going stream. Yeah. Those games are the toughest. That's like every broadcaster's worst nightmare is when they assign the games and it's like you got a really good team and a really bad team. You're like, I'd rather call a game with two bad teams because all we want is competitive. Yeah. Right. So the games that get multi-score at the end and there's no drama. Those are not typically the ones that you want to call make sense. I love it, man. We got a, we got Titan. You coming up this offseason yet again. It's getting bigger and bigger. Man, last year was was one of my favorites. I can't I can't imagine how this thing's going to keep getting bigger. But just in terms of the guys, what new guys do you want to see at Titan in you this year? Yeah. Good question. You know, I want to see we're talking about the Rams. You know, we always get Colby Parkinson has had a great year. He's made some big time plays, the Carolina, the game winning play against Carolina. Terrence Ferguson's the young rookie. I want to say he's working. He's super dynamic. He can run. He's downfield guy. Kind of runs routes like a receiver. I'd love to get like see him live and in person. I think anyhow, we can all sit here and say it's because of T.E.U. It probably is. Let's be honest. That's me. Everyone heard my speech on Thomas Edison. No, I'm kidding. That wasn't even Thomas Edison. I can't even remember when it was a inertia. You're doing one of the new laws inertia. That's the way it should be. But you know, it's just so cool. And I think that's what's been so cool about T.E.U. Right. And that's what I try to tell all these young guys. You might try to encourage him to come. I'm like, guys, when are you ever at the front of the line going to have Travis and George and over the years, you know, Mark Andrews and like all these guys that have played for so long. And then at the back of the line, it's like the young wide-eyed, undrafted, fragite rookie who's never even seen an NFL field. And he's just so happy to be there. Like the fact that we have the top of the top guys that haven't even started their journey yet. And for two and a half days, everyone's in the same bucket. You're all in the same drills. You're all in the same conversations. You're all at the same parties. You're all in the same bar. Like you're all one and the same from a social, from a connection standpoint, from a fellowship. And then obviously from a football and the guys that you're able to pick their brains and how does Travis warm up? How does George run his routes full? Like what does he like in practice? Like watching guys body language, watching guys work ethic. Like it's just so unique. And then you look around the league. And I would say the talent is as widespread and as deep as it's ever been. And I think that's so good for the league. It's so good. Obviously selfishly for the position. And the fact that to you gets to play like a small little role in like elevating the position across the league. I know, you know, you, you, George and I, we all take a lot of pride in it. And I think the entire position does. Yeah. Yeah, you guys should. I mean, let's, I give, I give George a lot of crap and like national tight end day. I'm tired of made up holidays. But like, since all series is like, it is crazy to think of what tight ends are in the modern day NFL and how important they are. Like all of the best offenses utilize these tight ends that can be hybrid blockers. They can go out and be a mismatch out at the receiver position. You can spread them out like all of the best offensive minds want these guys because they offer so many different things you can do formationally schematically mismatching, depending on what personnel, the defense those on the field. And it feels like tight end you has given this position, a platform that it never really had before. And I know that was an initial reason that you guys all started. This is a, we need to start like coming together for all tight ends. Like we aren't respected enough. We don't earn the money that a lot of these other star positions do. And we should because we're as valuable as that. How have you seen the position change on the national scale with tight end you? Yeah. So I think tight end you certainly played a part of it. I do think the biggest difference between tight end when I came in the league in '07 and the way it is now. Right. So we're talking almost 20 years. I think the biggest difference was tight end was always seen as like like the blue collar, the unsung hero, right? There were stars, Jason Witten was a star. Antonio Gates was a star. Tony Gonzalez was a star. Shannon Sharp, I was like right on the tail end. So there was prominent players, but they weren't the face of the league, right? They were, they were great players and Hall of Fame players, but they weren't the stars. It was a quarterback-driven league. It was a running-back-driven league and wide receivers. And then there was like a handful of prominent defensive players, right? Brian Erlacher, Troy Palomalu and those guys, right? So you fast forward to now. And again, I'm not just saying this 'cause Travis is on the pod. I'm not just like, I'm not just saying it 'cause he's my buddy and George and Gronk, like the position of tight end over my career started being played by the faces of the league. They weren't just really good players. They were stars. The league was building the brand around these individual guys with Gronk, with Travis and with George. And now, instead of it all being all quarterbacks on, you know, the commercial for Sunday night football or the commercial for the Fox double header, it was always, which, who are the two quarterbacks plaster them up there? The commercials, the guys we saw, that's very different nowadays. So on top of just having elevated roles on their teams, playing in postseason games, winning Super Bowls, being the best player in the Super Bowl, like having the platform of football to play well at the position, and then just all the stuff that comes around it, the off the field, the elevating. I think all of that is like high tide raises all ships, right? So I think it's been a combination of on and off the field, elevation, and obviously Travis at the forefront of that, and he has been for years in Gronk and obviously George. And it's just a different time where it's okay for the tight end to be the star of your team, the star of the league, and it wasn't always like that. But I give all these guys a lot of credit 'cause they're really the tip of that spear. - Do you think that that's why we're maybe seeing some more divas at the tight end position than we've ever seen, is that fair, is that fair? - Yeah, I know. - Divas, podcast hosts, yeah, I think that's part of it for sure. I think that's part of it for sure. - We got a young man cooking over there in Chicago, man. Colson Loveland came out hot and in hard knocks. - If I was these NFL teams, between Colson Loveland, between Aiden Hutchinson, they should make every guy at the combine do like a stand-up rookie salt. - Because right now, if you can. - Yeah, I was going on that, I was going on that angle. I was going like, if you can get up in the room, especially as like a six five white guy and just rush it and just own the room, you have no choice to be really good. And all the boys are giving you high fives. You're instantly the man. - There's no greater feeling than walking out of that team meeting where you're like, I just own that. - If anybody knows, if anybody knows, you know Greg. - Oh, I know. - You want to start with this whole thing. - I, yeah, good and bad, good and bad, good and bad. Let's just say my rookie show was better. My post college days were better. - Perfect. - And my weddings, and my wedding. - That's the way it's supposed to be. They're supposed to get better. - They got way better. - My decision-making improved. - Well, leave it at that. - I love it. - All right, well, this is a, we'll move it to our last question for you, G. Ragman. What was your welcome to the NFL moment? - Yeah, so, and it's ironic because I work with them now, indirectly at Fox, but we had a home game, my rookie year, in '07, and we had like a critical short yardage. It was like either third or fourth down short yardage field, short yardage play at Soldier Field. I'm the why, my hands and the dirt. We're running, I don't know, power, whatever inside. And Michael Strayhan is playing like a, I don't know if he was at a four point stance, but he felt like he was at like an eight point stance. And he was playing, he was playing six technique, right? So he was like on my head, but he was the worst. And like you go too far inside and he just caves you down, you stay on his outside shoulder and he just presses you back. So I come off hard inside step and I'm like, I'm gonna bring everything I got, everything I got. I'm bringing it. Well, he like two gaps me, he locks me out, presses me, head no, no, he takes me into the full back, into the backside pulling guard. - Oh no. - And like, and I was like, I ran off the field. - Swap the hole. - And I'm like guard, I don't care if you dislocate my elbow. - You got to swab this thing, brother. - You got to be right there. - You know, as you got older, like I don't know about you, like I don't, I mean, I guess both you guys, but like, you know, you're going and you kind of keep that inside arm out, you're like, hey, but like, there's so many come out. - I don't want to get my elbow popped here. - I don't need to, I don't need to. - You're gonna stay on an elbow for three yards. - If I'm gonna break my arm, at least let it be down field. (laughing) - I'll tell you what, man, I came off the field that day and I was like, all right. (laughing) - Well, that was great. - That wasn't great. - Yeah. - That wasn't great. - What are we doing as a coach? - That's what we're dialing up, that's the dumbest thing. - I was like, what are you doing? - You can't get the ball to Johnny, I'm Johnny. (laughing) You can't put me at the tail. - I'm the tightest. (laughing) - Two little ziastresses of one game. - Three months ago. - Three months ago. - It's the best, man. - Yeah, I'm 21 years old. I'm like, 245 pounds of I'm lucky. (laughing) - Oh my God, it's just, I'm gonna run as fast as I can down the field and throw it. - This is so good. - We're gonna work into the other stuff. - Yeah, yeah, no doubt. - God damn, that's fucking good. - Yeah, it wasn't great. - Oh man, well, I could definitely say I've been there with you brother. - My no means was at the last time. (laughing) - That's it, it's just the intro of the NFL, baby. - We're gonna arc release this one coach. - Arc release. - Yeah, we're gonna get the, yeah. - Coach, that's safety, I'm gonna kick it back. - I'll go get that, I'll go get that second level. - I'll go get that second level. - Good level. - Oh, that cracker plays safety, he's mine. (laughing) And then it's cam chancellery just not strong at all. - Good luck. - You're like, this sucks, this sucks, this game is so stupid. - Not only is that gonna be the game plan, we're gonna run that three times today. (laughing) - Oh my God, dude. - That's why they pay us the big bucks, right? - Hell yeah, baby, that's the fun of it man, dude. It was everything I could have maddened more brother. - Great, thank you so much for fucking coming on today man. Sorry, it took so long, I appreciate it to be patient. Keep fucking taking the world by storm on the broadcast. The middle school football, I can't wait to see or hear the bits that you guys do, the mic top bits you do as a coach that you put on your Instagram or your social media man. - I gotta be one of your biggest fans in the world. I love you as a person who you've been for me in my career, getting to meet you back in Baltimore at the Ed Block Courage Awards who are everything and more back then, you still are the best guy I know man. So I appreciate you coming on and I love you brother. - I appreciate you man, you guys are the best and a lot of respect for you guys. Everything you've done, everything you guys stand for, having a ton of fun while also being good at what you do man. It's awesome and the pleasure was all mine. Thanks for having me. - Let's go baby. - Hopefully we get together and have a couple apparel spritzes this off season. - Oh, that was a come up in like two weeks brother too, that even. - Spritsin. - Let me know, I'll be around. - You're the man, dude. - Appreciate you guys. - Alrighty, that does it for Mr. Greg Olsen, did not disappoint. That's probably the best football insight you've ever gotten from this show. That's all thanks to Mr. Greg Olsen. - We're gonna have to tie him in next year to a contract 'cause there's about 10 teams that are gonna hear this podcast and get to offer him to be their headball coach man. I got nose ball and he knows how to get the best out of people man. - You ain't lying. He's also just a fun ass time. It's where you find somebody that's that articulate, intelligent, but fun. It's hard to find those individuals and he somehow nails all of it. - Oh God. - How many traits can one guy have? - Funny, smart. - A bit of you zoom in on his nose looks just fine. - Great head of hair. - Camin' tall, athletic, smart, smart, great vocabulary, beautiful eyes. If I can, he's married with a beautiful family. - It's a blessed man. - Good for a great man. One day. - All right, let's get into some stamps of the week. Stamp of the Week is brought to you by Adobe Acrobat Studio. - I kind of want to give Greg the stamp of the week. - Greg gets the stamp of the week. - Let me see this clip of the equipment guy. Never letting the staff in the jacket hit the ground. The rams are on it with the jackets out in the middle of the field. I feel like that was too much. And where are you at with getting jackets put over your shoulders in the middle of the game on the field? - They were in sync right here. I'm not a big jacket guy. - Like what is that doing? Like there's no way you're gaining that much heat from throwing a little one. - It's not he just just keeping the wind off of you, I think. - I got you, but guys, I mean, come on. - I'm not a hand warmer guy. I'm not a-- - I did the hand warmer. I would put a towel in it if it was like wet out so that I could keep my hand dry. - I hear you on that. I think when I was younger, I did it and I didn't love it. And I felt like it was like the more that I wear the less like free I felt, it felt like I was kind of like in a stray jacket when I wore a lot of layers. So I just eat the fact that I'm just gonna be cold as fuck for four hours and I'll be fine no matter what. I haven't like noticed. that it's gonna like make me stiffer and like the cold is gonna make me less athletic. Like when you start running and your body gets warmed up, like it's, we're outside playing football. Like I'm not gonna be stiff that way. I feel like the more layers I had on, that was restricting me more than like if I'm just cold as balls. - Yeah, 100% agree. - All right, I'm gonna say this. Although I'm against the codes in the middle of the game, I will say when it is a weather game, equipment managers matter more. People don't understand this, like equipment people actually end up playing an impact in the game. How well they articulate to the players, like changing your cleats. I know my man Greg is on top of it with the Eagles. Most of the time he is meticulous about telling guys, hey, it's slick out there, yada, yada, yada. But also like the balls. Like whoever's in charge of getting the balls ready for game day, when the weather's good, like it's not that important. It really shows up when you got a little bit of rain or snow. If that ball hasn't been broken improperly, it just gets slick, it doesn't feel right. - Half of it is just being prepared for the situation. Like I know my guy Alan, right? Shout out to Alan Wright over in Kansas City. Just got inducted to, I believe the Missouri Sports Hall of Fame for I think he's been doing this with the, with the Chiefs for maybe 40 years, 50 years, something crazy like that. He's still doing it. It's being prepared for all the elements. - For sure. - It's having the, and it's kind of like putting your own twist on things. Like how can you be creative to help guys always be at their best in the elements and always have something available for them? - For sure. - I think is the cool thing. Like I know the deep diving suits with the scuba suits were, became a thing. You know what I just like, but it's like as things are like coming up or as things are kind of becoming a trend and things like that, having all that shit ready, knowing what to order before the season, for your specific players on how they like to be ready for it, it's just, it's always different. - But it becomes magnified when it's colder or the rain or the snow like, it really does make a competitive advantage for your players. And that's one of the things I always loved was like, the fact that like the equipment guys have put it in the extra time. I got to give a quick shout out to my equipment guy, Craig Blake, I don't know if you're watching, but let me tell you, I'm going to that shower and Craig will be scrubbing them balls and he'll be getting them all bad. And sometimes he'll be in the shower, I'd be going in there showing, I feel a little bit weird that I'm naked, shower and next to Craig and Craig's trying to get the balls right for him. - And he's just scrubbing away at these balls. - Can we give him the balls? - You're scrubbing balls, he's scrubbing balls. Can we give him the chance to scrub some balls without you scrubbing your balls next to him? - I mean, listen, he's doing it in the shower. There's only, there's limit, especially in a weight game. There's limited shower space. So yeah, I'm going to go equipment guy. Although I'm not about the jacket, I respect the dedication to the craft. Ram's equipment guy, don't know your name. You get my stamp of the week. - I'll give the fucking State of the Week to K-Shine Boutet. Did you see this? Is there any one-handed cats for the Patriots? - I see it, I was there. - Sorry, I forgot you had a day off Jason. - Yeah, no, it was absolutely fucking insane. Everybody that was watching the game with me, everybody jumped out of their fucking seats. For in this moment in the fourth quarter to go up, two scores with a play like that fucking A, man. That is a hell of a fucking play. And you're at home looking, everybody go and nuts in New England, man. New England's back in the fucking AOC Championship game. - What is this like thing where the guys put their hand over the facing, is it like, they're saying the other guy is stinky? - I have no, sure, I have no idea. - I've asked so many people, nobody knows. - It's so fun. - The one thing that makes sense in my head is like, oh, he's stinky, he just put that stink on it. - Yeah, I think maybe, I don't know. - That's the sleep, the sleep everybody knows the sleep. - Peekaboo. - Everyone high fives. - Peekaboo. - And then this is the stinky. They're doing putting the stink on it. - If you're calling it that, he definitely put the stink on that cast though. Shout out to Bootsay, man, you get my stamp for the week. - Go Bootsay. - That wraps up stamp of the week brought to you by Adobe Acrobat Studio. - I am not wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you so much for the one and only Greg Olsen. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Make sure you're subscribed to the New Heights channel on YouTube or in the Wondering F or every podcast. You can listen to new episodes of the New Heights right now at free by joining Wondering Blasts of the Wondering F or on Apple Podcasts. - Once again, New Heights of Wondering Show brought to you by Reese's Oreo Cups, the perfect combination of our favorite candies. Reese's Cups and Oreo cookies. - Start, go on and follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show for fun clits throughout the week. That's New Heights Show with 1S. Thank you to our New Heights production team. Thank you again to you 92%ers. Check out Kelsey Clubhouse and we'll see you guys after a little championship weekend. - Peace. - Yeah! (upbeat music) - Oh man, well bud, you look fucking great. The saloon looks fantastic. Do you have astless chaps on? - I don't, I actually have sweat pants on. The pants that they gave me don't fit my ass. So they're cutting the lining out right now to make sure that they fit. So right now I have sweat pants on. I'm a half cowboy.