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BIGGEST Risers & Fallers Before Week 1: Rhamondre Stevenson, Jayden Reed, Jeremiyah Love, Terry McLaurin, & More! (09/06 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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BIGGEST Risers & Fallers Before Week 1: Rhamondre Stevenson, Jayden Reed, Jeremiyah Love, Terry McLaurin, & More! (09/06 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Fantasy Football Today discusses key draft trends and player movements ahead of the 2024 season. Central to the conversation is the impact of Josh Jacobs’ rescheduled court date, which has pushed his draft position earlier—now considered a potential late-round pick in rounds 9–10—though uncertainty remains about his actual availability. Marshawn Lloyd is emerging as a top-tier running back pick at RB 29–31, with strong upside due to his established role with the Packers, though fantasy managers remain cautious about his consistency. Cam Scadaboo, once a rising pick, has significantly fallen in rankings—from RB15 to RB19—due to mounting uncertainty about his role with the Giants, leading to a reevaluation of his value as a late-round, high-risk option. Other notable shifts include Dajon Stribling rising as a breakout wide receiver in the 49ers’ offense due to youth and potential target share, while Mike Washington and Chris Godwin are highlighted as flex options in the Raiders and Dolphins, respectively. The panel also notes that several players, including Jeremiah Love, Carnell Tate, and Terry McLaurin, are considered fallers due to injury concerns, inconsistent performance, or poor target projections. With real-time ADP data showing fluctuations across teams, the emphasis is on balancing risk and value, especially in high-impact matchups like Week 1. The show reinforces the importance of drafting with flexibility, monitoring injury reports, and considering roster depth and matchup dynamics to maximize fantasy success.

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This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? It's a no-like game. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet. He's just going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Yeah, baby. FFT after dark. Sunday night, September 6th. Getting you ready for your Labor Day. Happy Labor Day, guys. Happy Labor Day to you, Adam. It's pretty much, uh, this is the thing for the next four months, right? Sunday nights. Sunday nights. Yeah, about an hour earlier than this. We'll go on the air around 8 o'clock, 7.50, 8 o'clock p.m. Eastern on Sunday nights to recap the action. What is Sunday night football week one? Are we looking forward to that game? I think you are. I sure am. Giants-Cowboys. Oh, man, we get to watch it all together? The whole season's going to be on the line. The whole season's going to be on the line right away in week one. 34-10. You think the Giants are going to win by 24, Heath? Come on, man. I do not. I do not. You know, uh, in being in a guillotine league with Dave where he has two Cowboys with his first two picks, I'm, Giants, shut him out. Oh, he has his, oh, okay, okay. Yeah, I took CD and Gervonta with my first two picks. Ooh, yeah, it's not bad. All right, anyway, welcome to the show. Today, we're going to talk about. Yeah, and let me mention, it's an 18-team league, so less people think that I, you know, whiffed in round two. I think everybody knows how many teams in a guillotine. I don't know, not everybody does. Yeah, it's not always, people who have done it, the others, not necessarily. I know someone who's in a, uh, a 15-team guillotine league because they just couldn't find enough people, so they're just going to end it early. Not everybody's a winner like you and me, James. Is that you? No. Because you didn't have that many friends? Did Dan do the draft? Tomorrow night. Or Monday night. Live? Is he coming? Monday night, no, no. Anyway, today, we're going to talk about the players. We're going to talk about the players who have risen or fallen the most throughout the draft process, okay? Basically, the last month. Who are the biggest risers and followers, and what are we expecting? These are buzz-worthy players that need to be talked about, even if it's just one last time before we really turn our attention to week one. But let's start with the Josh Jacobs news here. His court date was moved up to September 10th. Heath, did you adjust anything based on this? It was, I didn't really know exactly what to make of it here, but much earlier, four days from now, is his court date. So, did you adjust anything? Yes, I had Josh Jacobs at the end of round 10 and didn't really want to take him until round 11. I moved him up to the end of round 9, and then I was in an FFPC draft and took him early in round 9 because of the structure of my team. So, I think he's up a round or two, and I don't think anybody actually knows for sure what this means, but the way that I'm taking it is that Josh Jacobs is up a round or two, Josh Jacobs would like to get this all done with and hopefully be playing week seven. Dave, your take on Josh Jacobs moving up his court date? I think Heath's take is reasonable. There's a chance that it could be longer than week seven before we see him. There's always things that can happen and videos that could be released that could alter said timeline, but yeah, I'm interpreting this as Jacobs and his legal team trying to get resolution over and done with so that the league can make a decision on. How long he's going to be suspended for, and now he's got a chance to play this year. So, when would you take him and when would you take Lloyd, Dave? I have Jacobs still in round 10 because there's still the uncertainty and the chance that he does not play this year. So, I don't want to spend. Yeah, Heath, you were taking him in early round nine. Yeah, I took him like it was 904, and it was a tournament type to where like the upside of if Jacobs is there in the playoffs is worth a little bit more. I'm not going to nitpick that. I spent two. Percent of my budget in an auction draft on Jacobs. The news broke that the court day got moved up while we were doing our auction draft. So, I'm I'm I dabbled, but I'm not going to overspend and Lloyd went down a little bit, but he's still running back that, you know, you're going to have for the beginning of the season. So, happy to still take him in that round six, seven range. I'll give you a couple of different ADPs and then Jamie, you can hop in here the NFC average draft position. This is from the last two days has Marshawn Lloyd at RB 29. So, it's Jalen Warren, Jonathan Brooks, Marshawn Lloyd, RB 29, 80th overall, and then Tony Pollard, Blake Corum, Josh Jacobs, RB 39, 113th overall. The fantasy pros real-time ADP, which doesn't exactly give you a date range. It just says instead of showing you where players were drafted yesterday, real-time ADP shows you where they're being drafted now, and it puts now in italics. So, that's interesting. Has Josh Jacobs actually going ahead of me? Marshawn Lloyd. Jacobs is RB 31, 88th overall, and Marshawn Lloyd, 91st, 34th overall. Okay, that's not real. Not to crowd Jamie out, but FFPC, so real drafts from the last two days, 22 drafts. Jacobs at 76, or I'm sorry, Lloyd at 76, Jacobs at 88. Okay. I think a lot of people, you know, that are just drafting now, casual people, maybe don't even really know about Marshawn Lloyd. Kind of basing that based on the draft I just did. There's not a lot of casual people in the FFPC drafts. Exactly. So, the real-time fantasy pros thing, I think, maybe explains Jacobs going ahead of Lloyd. Jamie, when would you take the two of them? I think the ranges have been accurate, you know, somewhere after round nine, and I think Lloyd somewhere after round six. I think that's fair. You know, you got to be a little bit cautious now with Lloyd, just with the potential of, I think Dave hit it on the head, that the legal team for Jacobs, this is his only chance to play this season, is to get his name cleared. So, if this was going to wait until November, I would be very surprised. I would have been very surprised if the NFL was going to change its mind on allowing him to play beyond maybe sitting out a six-game suspension. But this wasn't a suspension. It was the exemplar. So, we still don't know. There's still an uncertainty about this. You know, the court case may be worse for Jacobs. You know, he may end up, as Dave alluded to with the video, you know, we may find out that it's worse than what the charges were. Remember, he, I think it's a little bit confusing to some people. It's not a felony charge because he's not married, you know, or if I understand correctly. Oh, is that right? And because he didn't charge, create great harm. They don't have the proof of it. I'm sorry. I probably butchered it. I was trying to think what Drew Davenport said, that it was not. I think it was not a domestic violence case. Domestic violence, yes. Because they're not married. Yes. Yes. Okay. I think the felony was regarding the severity. Domestic violence was regarding the marriage. Right. Excuse me. So I apologize. In any event, I think we could find out that he's still out for the rest of the season. So just don't get too excited. The way I would, the way I have been approaching it, you know, still have two more drafts to go. The way I have been approaching it is I wouldn't, I'm not reaching for Marshawn Lloyd and I'm not reaching for Josh Jacobs. If they are in the appropriate spots where I feel like it's comfortable to draft either one, I will do it. All right. So would you take Tony Pollard or Marshawn Lloyd? It depends on the build of my roster. If I'm looking for the most upside, I would take Lloyd. Agreed. Heath? I think it depends on the league too. All right. You know what? Honestly, like your silence, your pause kind of says exactly how you feel about them. Right. Okay. I understand. You don't want to be in a situation where you drafted Marshawn Lloyd and come week three, you know, he's a backup and you spend a six round pick on him. You don't want to draft. You don't want to let him go to somebody else. And it's, he's the starting running back for the Packers for the entire season. He's played one game. Like, you know, we, I think we've tried to be as realistic about the situation as possible. Like this is a great situation. It's unbelievable if he's the starting running back for the Packers for the entirety of the year, but he may not be the starting running back for the entirety of the year. It's worth still taking flyers on. I've done it almost every draft or free agent runs that have happened to pick up Christopher Brooks to see what happens just in case there's, he's the guy you want to take a flyer on Caleb Johnson, take a flyer on Caleb Johnson. You know, he may end up at some point being extremely relevant for the Packers. It's very wide open. Yeah. A lot of people, by the way, are picking up Chris Brooks in my leagues. And every time I see it, I go, Oh, why didn't I pick up Chris Brooks? So if he's a free agent, go ahead and take a look at Chris Brooks. He at least is going to catch some passes for the Packers. There's two that are very easy and it's Chris Brooks and George Helani because we just don't know what roles they're going to have and throw them away after a week. You know what I mean? If, if, if they, if they stink, it's just easy selections. If you drafted, you did a great job, you know, this Adam of Jordan Tyson and Zach Charbonnet of you get a free pickup. Because you can stash them on IR and you still have those players. And I will say this, if you want to start looking ahead, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers DST is widely available and they get the Browns in week two. So if you want to get that next DST, do that as well. You can do that before Saturday. I do worry that Chris Brooks is just going to be no better than a passing downs back for green Bay. It's going to take injuries for that to change, but Helani, and I think you've been ahead on this one, Jamie, like could very well be taking on the Zach Charbonnet role to begin the year. And probably wouldn't let it go unless Jadarian price really takes off in Seattle's backfield. And it's not just those two guys. I know we'll probably get into this during the week, but like Malik Davis, Ray Davis, Samaj AP Ryan, like there's so many of these Seth McGowan, like there's so many guys that are just available. Jacob sailors. Like there's, you could just stash these guys. God forbid an injury happens in week one. You've beaten the waiver wire. Congratulations. You know, you have that next lottery ticket. You know, we want to guess Helani's roster percentage. 3%. 10%. - 10%. - 13. 100%, George Helani. Okay, could be the goal linebacker for the Seahawks. I do have, by the way, the last ADP review, there's four different articles. There's waiver wire information in all four of those articles. They're all on cbssports.com. It's here are the guys, if you've already done your draft, go pick up these players now once waivers run. Are we expecting Kyle Minonga to play week one at Carolina? No. Okay. He was running last week in practice. DeAndre Swift said he looked good. So hopefully that means it'll be sooner rather than later for Minonga. Travion Henderson, would you agree it seems unlikely Henderson's going to play week one? Correct. We agree. Yeah, that would be Wednesday at Seattle. We also might not get Seattle safety, Nicky Minwari, in week one. He's a little beat up. And that means three, if he's out, three pieces of their second. Because they already, they don't have Kobe Bryant starting safeties now and the Bears injured. And they don't have Rick Woolen, who's now in the Eagles. But this would be a third guy if Ibn Wari doesn't play. Heath, what were you going to say? Nothing. Okay. So, yeah, that would be a big loss. Cam Scadaboo said that John Harbaugh asked him if he's ready for 20 carries a game. I said we're going to talk about risers and followers. This has been a faller. Dave put him in his followers list, you know, just over the last month or so. And then there was also, I don't know, beat writer speculation that Najee Harris could eventually, let me see. Actually, I can read it for you. Oh, thank you. From The Athletic. It'll be fascinating to see how this running back room shakes out. I'm confident Cam Scadaboo will open the season as the number one back. Najee Harris could be anywhere from the number two to inactive if the Giants don't deem him fully ready to contribute. If it's not by the opener, my sense is it won't be long until Najee is RB2. From there, workload distribution will depend on the performances of Najee Harris and Cam Scadaboo. It wouldn't surprise me if Harris becomes a lead back at some point this season. That's from Dan Douglas. That's the slogan of The Athletic, Dave. Is that kind of what you're thinking? Yeah, and it's not just those two guys, but Tyrone Tracy still has talent that the Giants can use. And Devin Singletary has worked as their hurry-up offense running back. And they're going to mix and match these guys. There could be a world where Scadaboo starts games and could be in line for some short yardage goal line work. But Najee spells him a bunch. And that Singletary plays on third downs. And that Tyrone Tracy spells him sometimes. We've seen Greg Rose. We've seen Roman use multiple running backs before when he hasn't had a guy. I don't know if they feel like they have a guy right now. And so when training camp started, Scadaboo was somebody that I was targeting in round three. Remember, I used to come on the show and say, the easiest thing in the world to do is draft Scadaboo and draft Tyrone Tracy. Well, now there's two other guys in this backfield that might end up mattering. And I've just basically abandoned that plan. And now I'm not even that excited to draft Scadaboo unless I'm really into it. I'm in need of a low-end RB, too. Well, now he's going at the 4-5 turn, Cam Scadaboo. That's better. It's crazy, right? He's been one of the biggest fallers we've seen. Do you consider him a big faller, Jamie? I'm just going by his ADP. I mean, his, you know. But in your rankings? My rankings, he's falling, yeah. He was probably at the start of camp, somewhere around RB15, and now he's 24. Oh, wow. He's still RB19 over the last two days in NFC, which is 61 drafts. But. The funny thing is, and most of our drafts have happened the last eight days in terms of how many drafts have happened on CBS, and Cam Scadaboo still has the 36th highest ADP at 38th overall, ahead of T. Higgins, Brees Hall, Ladd-McConkie, Colston Loveland, Lamar Jackson, Tedderow-McMillan. That's a little too high. I've been drafting with Giants fans, so I saw him go 10th in a draft. I hope the people that took him early get rewarded. I mean, there's still a lot of talent and a lot of opportunity. For sure. You know, I think, as the guys have said, it's going to be crowded, but, you know, you said this many a time, Adam, throughout the Najee Harris signing and Tyrone Tracy and whatever's going on with him, et cetera, like, the Giants would be stupid not to give Scadaboo the majority of touches. We'll see if that plays out in all the important touches. For us, you know, I know, obviously, Dan, our colleague Dan Schneier, who's tied into the Giants from a, you know, podcast perspective that he does on his own, and, you know, he pays attention to that team as much as anybody. He was just, I saw him post something, you know, about they'd be stupid not to use Tracy in some capacity because he thinks he's their most explosive running back. You know, so it's really one of these, you know, maybe the most ambiguous backfield in terms of how we can, you know, see it comparatively to having a guy that we are still seeing get drafted at such a high level. And what I mean by that, is, you know, you can say the Steelers, this, that, they're getting drafted close together. The Commanders guys, there's, you know, there's questions, but they don't go that far apart. You know, the Carolina guys may end up getting closer to each other or have been closer to each other the last couple of days because of Chuba getting healthy, you know, on and on. This is one where Scadaboo goes so significantly ahead of everybody else in that backfield. And you may just win by taking a waiver wire move on Najee Harris or still, because we've seen Tyrone Tracy not get drafted in a lot of leagues now. Like, those would be the two, I think, you just kind of, if you want to take a dart throw on who could still have value, those would be the ones that I would take shots on. Yeah, two things. Well, I was just going to say, Dave, you can tie this in. That's kind of what's going on with everyone in round five, right? Like, David Montgomery is going way ahead of Woody Marks. Jadarion Price is going way ahead of George Helani, who's not even rostered in most leagues. Basil Tootin is going way ahead of Chris Rodriguez. I do think you could argue that in all of those instances, it shouldn't be that way. But. Skadaboo's not really in round five. Four or five turn. Right, he's even ahead of. On some sides, but not on ours. Yeah, yeah. I don't know what to make of that, but let me. Dave, you can talk. Real-time ADP for Skadaboo is 42nd. So, yeah, probably, he's probably around four. Okay, so that's getting close. It's mid-round four, yeah. Right, right, right. It's getting closer to the four or five turn. Two things. Number one, we can't sit here and say, oh, you've got to worry about Najee Harris and Tyrone Tracy and Devin Singletary. I mean, it's Najee Harris, Tyrone Tracy, and Devin Singletary. There is a pathway where Skadaboo can blow those three guys out of the water and just at work as an alpha running back. So, I'm wrong for saying what I said earlier. There's certainly a pathway for Skadaboo to be awesome. Number two, if we're going to talk about things that Skadaboo said, yes, he told somebody, I don't remember who, about the 20-plus touch comment from John Harbaugh. He also told Kay Adams that he was considering retirement this offseason after his injury last year. And he said that he came into the NFL thinking he was going to be in the NFL. And he said that he was going to be in the NFL. And he said that he would quit if he had one big injury. And he had one big injury. And obviously, he decided not to quit. But that was an interesting comment. Yeah. I considered retirement this offseason, too, Dave. And then I was like, you know what? I can't retire. And you didn't do it? Damn it. That's what Cam Skadaboo was like. You know what? That would be pretty stupid if I retired, I think. No, I know. You thought about it. But that doesn't matter. What round was he drafted again? Fourth round, I believe. Fourth round. It was one of the earliest. Heath, does this go back? Does this go to your theory of day three, day two running backs that get new coaches, coordinators? That has been the working theory for the last few years, is that if you're a day three running back and the coaching staff likes you and then the coaching staff stays, you're probably safe. And the coaching staff changes, and you're maybe not. Yeah. But the coaching staff didn't draft a running back. I know they signed Najee, but I think. They sure tried. They tried just about everything they could to get a running back this offseason. Yeah, right. They wanted to train him. They wanted to sign one. They wanted to draft one. I think what Dan Duggan wrote is true. He's going to get the opportunity, and it's up to Scadaboo to be good in the first couple of games. It's really important. For a lot of these guys, it's important to get out there and get off to a fast start. All right. Anyway, you shouldn't take him in the third round and probably shouldn't be taking him in the fourth round, I guess. Let's see if we can get closer to that four or five turner into round five for Scadaboo. And we still don't know about Malik Neighbors. Let me tell you for Monday, for week one against the Dallas on Sunday night, not Monday night. We're programming. Tuesday, I think we're going to do some bold predictions. We have CBS Sports Network at noon Eastern, maybe Wednesday's bold predictions. I don't remember. But Tuesday, we're going to give you a preview for Wednesday night football. Wednesday, we'll give you a preview, start or sit for Thursday night football. And then for the rest of the year, Thursday and Friday are going to be our start or sit episodes. Tuesday is going to be waiver wire. Wednesday is going to be kind of like trades, buy low, sell high, and things like that. Monday is going to be a beyond the box score special with me, Dan, and Jacob. And Sunday night, we're going to recap the action. Also, we'll have a Friday mailbag that we'll publish on Saturday. So I think most of you know it, but if you don't, we. Sunday morning. Sunday morning, yeah. Well, Sunday morning, we have youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday, a live stream from 11 to 1. And also, Dave, Jamie, and Heath are going to be on CBS Sports HQ, basically from 11 to 1, I think. Yeah, 12 to 1. 12 to 1? Okay. We're also going to have a weekly Wednesday YouTube-only show with Scott Turner. That'll be me and Scott. And Scott's going to answer all the questions that we have from Sunday night through Tuesday about the upcoming week's games. Okay. All right, so we have a ton of content for you. We're just getting started. Draft season's almost over, but we have a long way to go and a lot of fun to have. We're going to be right back after this break on Fantasy Football today, and then we'll tell you our risers and fallers. I'm going to talk to you right now about Omaha Steaks, and this is a perfect time for me to do it because just last night, I cooked four Omaha Steaks for my family, and they were awesome, and we completely devoured them. And tonight, Omaha Steaks. 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And that is brought to you by Whoop, the wearable device that gives you personalized insights into your sleep recovery, your strain, and how daily choices may be influencing your overall well-being. Heath and Jamie, they have their Whoop on right now and always basically. And if you want to learn more, head to join.whoop.com. slash FFT today. Join.whoop.com slash FFT today. Heath, we were just talking about your Whoop before the show. Literally always. I went in the ocean for an extended period of time yesterday. Kept my Whoop on. Perfectly fine. No problem. All right, risers and fallers. We'll tell you some of the guys who have, I guess, really jumped or fallen over the last month or so. Basically, a little bit of a summary of the big storylines of draft season. Dave, Jared Goff and Brock Purdy were risers for you. And they're both going similarly. It goes Brock Purdy right now is QB 13. Come on, Dave. Brock Purdy is QB 13 in the real-time ADP. 109th overall. Then Bo Nix. Too low. Then Jared Goff. Too low. I think it actually goes Purdy. It goes Bo Nix, Brock Purdy, Jackson Dart, Jared Goff, Patrick Mahomes. 12 through 16 or something like that. Dave, Purdy and Goff are the risers for you. I'm definitely leaving Brock for Heath because I know that he's excited to talk about him. He's gotten me excited about Brock Purdy with all the analysis that he's done. With Goff, it's about the Lions defense not really improving the injuries in the secondary, the Terry and Arnold release. That stuff makes me nervous about their defense being particularly good. It means their offense is going to have to throw a lot, put up a lot of points to win games. I'm much more confident in the offensive line than I was a month ago. It sounds like right tackle, their rookie right tackle is going to end up being a good player. I'm still fairly bullish on the interior offensive line. I know that's a problem for Goff when he's pressured. He's not very good, but I think they'll work around it until they get their center back. How do you get frustrated or nervous about a quarterback when four of his top targets are being taken with top 70 picks in fantasy draft, including two in the first round? It's Gibbs. It's Amon Ross St. Brown. You know the name is Jameson Williams, Sam Laporta. Heath, I think you've heard of Sam Laporta. Goff is going to have a bunch of opportunities to throw a ton. That's usually going to lead to good numbers. He does have some games in his past where he's thrown a lot and not put up huge numbers. I know he doesn't run. I'm not drafting him to be a top five fantasy quarterback, but if he has a special year like Stafford just had, he will finish as one. I actually happen to have where I had these guys ranked in February. I can tell you where I have them right now. I had Purdy 14th and Goff 15th. Now I believe I have Goff 11th and Purdy 12th, both of them out of my homes. Ramondre Stevenson is a riser for Dave, and I assume he's a riser for everyone. Kind of obvious reasons why. Honestly, he was a riser even before Travion Henderson missed a bunch of practice time. We've said this so many times. The reports out of New England were that Ramond was a riser for Dave, and I assume he's a riser for Dave. Ramondre was improving his game, and that Travion had not improved his game. Ramondre was 28th for me at one point in February, and now I believe he's a top 24 running back. And if you look at recent ADP, Ramondre is RB25 in those 61 NFC drafts over the last two days. Guess who's RB26? Travion Henderson. Still super close. The real-time ADP is, I think, Ramondre. But Henderson's still ahead of Ramondre. So round five for Ramondre? Yeah. Six. I prefer six, but if running backs are flying off the board and you want somebody who looks like could handle every single touch in week one and then still be the 1A after that, Ramondre is the guy to look at. Let's do another bet, Adam. Oh, good, because the first one worked out so well. The first one's locked in. We got all the terms agreed to. We've got enough time. Two and a half days. We can agree to terms. Ramondre outscores Cam Scadaboo in week one and full season. I'm going to take Scadaboo in week one. I don't know about full season. I mean, yeah, I guess I have to. I'm drafting Scadaboo over Ramondre. But week one in Seattle is brutal. It's not. Remember, they give up the pass catching. He had seven carries for 23 yards in the Super Bowl and still scored 18 and a half PPR finishes. He scored an eight touchdown with about. Two minutes and 15 seconds left. The ball almost hit the ground. But Travion Henderson played in that game, actually. Yep. I think Travion Henderson ran one route on third down or something. So Ramondre, you know, I've. Yeah, I don't know. There's nothing else I can grow. I can think of something. Oh, man. I don't know if I like this conversation. Yeah, me either. So Ramondre's a riser. Would you rather have Ramondre Stevenson or Jadarian Price? Ramondre. Ramondre. Ramondre. Ramondre. I think I have Price a little higher. Let me double check that. I might not. Let's see if Dave has. You should probably know these things. Let's see if Dave has Jaden Reed higher than Jamie has Jaden Reed. Because Dave has Jaden. Oh, no. I've got Ramondre a spot ahead of Price. Dave has Jaden Reed. No, I'm deferring to Jamie on this one, too. All right. Well, how high do you have him? Because you put him as a riser. He's a number four wide receiver for me, but he could certainly finish the year as a number two and is one of my favorite players to go after in the middle of late rounds. Jamie, Jaden Reed? Round eight. Round eight. Okay. He's going 105th overall. That's the 9-10 turn in the real-time ADP, just ahead of Josh Downs. And that is someone that we liked a lot. I haven't really talked about him a ton lately, but we talked about him a lot a month ago. Jaden Reed or Josh Downs? Downs for me, but it's close. And they're both in that. Downs to me is that round eight guy in full PPR, and Reed is more round eight, nine. So they're close. Jamie, to Heath. Reed. Yeah, I've got Downs. I've kind of gotten more excited about Jaden Reed and remembered how awesome he was. And it's just made me think more that we're getting 105 Christian Watson targets, 95 Tucker Kraft targets, 90 Jaden Reed targets, and 85 Matthew Golden targets. And that might be the best case scenario if the Packers run game isn't good this year. And I'm just not that excited about that. Yeah. Remember, there is a world where either Marshawn Lloyd is great, or Jacobs comes back and he's running the ball well. And that'll kill the upside for these guys. That's the thing is, Jacobs didn't even run the ball that well last year. In the second half, no. The first half, I thought he was pretty good. And he just kept doing it. Yeah. Well, you had banged up Jordan Love in the second half of the season. You had bad Josh Jacobs second half of the season, and banged up Josh Jacobs second half of the season. So I'm kind of hoping and just hearing from people in Green Bay that we may have a more pass-happy offense. And the last time we had a pass-happy offense was a big year for Jaden Reed. It was 2023. It was a big year for Jordan Love, his best season so far as a fantasy quarterback. And he attempted 34 passes per game that year. So I'm kind of hoping we see that. The last two years, he's been under 30 pass attempts per game. And Heath is right. Like, we haven't seen a concentrated passing attack, but we also don't have a very robust receiving core like we've had. We've had the last couple of years for the Packers. So you got three receivers that hopefully will get their opportunities. So I don't think it's much more than the numbers he'd said, but I do think it's a little bit more. So maybe bump Watson up to 120 and the other two guys around 100. That's still probably kind of what you might get with the Colts offense too, because I don't think that's going to be the most pass-happy offense either. So I think we get maybe a similar type of pass volume for those guys. And so I don't, listen, I'm not going to argue Downs versus Reed. I think they're both kind of similar type players that we've seen some great moments. We've seen some good moments and we've seen some crappy moments and you're counting on, you know, at least on one hand, I trust Jordan Love a lot more than I do Daniel Jones. I know Jones was great last year, but I just think that Jordan Love's ceiling is significantly higher. So for me, I'm going to take Reed. They're almost back to back. I think I have Reed at 39 and Downs, I think is 41. Yeah. Downs, I feel like, I mean, look, he scored five touchdowns on 107 targets two years ago, four touchdowns on 88 targets. I feel like touchdowns could be an issue for him. So maybe he's better in full PPR. Reed, you know, gets the rushing, which doesn't count in full. I mean, the yards count, but that doesn't help him as much in full PPR. Maybe it's a full PPR versus nine and a half scenario. with those two guys. But what about Dajon Stribling, Dave? And where does he factor in? Right now, he's going after Reed and Josh Downs in the Fantasy Pros real-time ADP, but he's a riser for you, Dajon Stribling. He went from not even being in my top 200 to being right around pick 100. And it's just because he's the youngest and newest and potentially will never be double-covered as long as everybody's relatively healthy in the 49ers passing offense. Evans, old guy. Samuel, old guy. I should call him Debo. Debo, old guy. Kittle, old guy coming back from an Achilles. Stribling, young guy who was fast-tracked in preseason games and got a crazy amount of targets based on his snaps. And obviously, that's not going to be. No one can believe that that's going to happen in games. But he's going to play a lot. And he could be a match-up problem in the slot for San Francisco. And I like Purdy. I think Purdy's going to have a good year. I think he's going to throw plenty and Stribling's going to be one of those benefactors of it. Love getting him for my bench, too. But I would take Downs ahead of him. I would take Jaden Reed ahead of him. And even guys like Jalen Coker, Matthew Golden, those guys I would take ahead of Stribling, too. But he's an interesting name. And he's kind of fun. So, looking for him in that round 9 range for sure. If not round 10. He is young on this team. 24, right. It is kind of funny that Dejan Stribling is one of the oldest wide receivers from the draft class. Yeah. He's like a baby. Do you think. And I could just be completely wrong on this, but I still think that Stribling needs an injury. Oh, to really take off? Of course. But that's why I'm drafting him in round 9 or 10. Does it matter? Well, I mean, the thing is, the Packers and the Niners are similar. It's like if a guy gets 100 targets, their offenses are so efficient that they could matter. But I don't think he's getting 100. I don't think he's getting 100 targets if Evans and Debo and Kittle and McCaffrey are healthy. I think you're spot on with that. But if there's a team you want to bet on with somebody getting hurt at that position or those positions, they've already put Pearsall on IR, Christian Kirk on IR, Pearsall out for the season. Like Dave said, Kittle, we don't know what his role is going to be coming back from the injury. We're just excited that he's playing week one. And the same thing with Evans. Those two guys, just where they're at right now. And so it doesn't appear to be that Debo is going to be that much of a factor in the passing game. That could obviously change as the season goes on. But I think if you're just making a bet on a wide receiver handcuff, essentially, or a wide receiver lottery ticket, this is one of the best bets you can make because he's looked good. As Adam said, he doesn't need a lot of opportunities to be successful. We've seen a lot of different things happen with rookie receivers or young receivers in this offense. Brandon Ayoub being probably the best example that having some great moments as a rookie and then kind of getting, you know, back in the doghouse in his second year. And maybe that's just kind of who he is after what we're seeing. But there's just such an easy path to success here if that happens. And, you know, we talked about this last week. Like, they've done, you know, I remember, I think it was after the first preseason game. It was like of the 20 snaps he played, it was like almost half and half inside outside of just moving him around to give him, I think, the opportunities to play a variety of roles just in case they need him to. So it, it, it's, it's a, it's a great stash with potential to be more right away. But I think, you know, you're just kind of hoping like, oh, if Evans misses time and he's been banged up the last few years, or if, you know, they, they can't find a good complimentary option. Like, he's got huge upside. And one of the things that I've seen from the wide receivers who get drafted late, you know, I usually use round nine or later, which pick 97 and end up being good. How do we predict them? Well, unfortunately, a lot of them really benefit from injuries and you just can't really predict that. Brian Thomas Jr. A perfect example of that. And like Wanda Robinson and Michael Wilson last year, a perfect example of that. So it's hard to predict it, but you just have to like, I guess my point with shriveling would be if there are, if there is an injury for the most, or even two for the oldest, most injury prone substation team in the NFL, like this could definitely be one of those guys that smashes his aches and pains. ADP. And unfortunately, look, it's totally realistic that you draft a John stripling. He does nothing in week one against the, and it's super tough matchup. You drop them. And four weeks later, he's great. That happens all the time, but maybe that doesn't happen. Try to be patient. All right, let's go to Heath's risers here. Marshawn Lloyd. We already talked about him and real quick. When would you take Lloyd? Round seven. Um, Mike Washington, a riser for you. And, you know, I think the fact that we're all kind of expecting now that Ashton Jendi is going to be going to play week one. So if you have a draft this final week, you'll get Mike Washington a little bit more reasonable than he was for a couple of days. Um, but I, I think this guy was so good in the preseason and he is a guy that Kubiak drafted after already having Ashton Jendi on the team. I view him as one of those guys. It's like a boom bust flex when Jendi is healthy. And as we saw already, Jendi could miss time. If he does, Mike Washington's a monster. He must start running back. And so he's still, even with Jendi getting to what looks like back to week one, still one of the top handcuff running backs. For me, it's kind of like when Coram and Manung guy come off the board, I'm going to start considering Washington, the talented guy with almost no competition outside of Ashton Jendi. Did you, uh, did you happen to hear what ran Carthon said about Mike Washington? I did not. So ran Carthon, former general manager of the Titans does the, the first pick podcast that Adam doesn't know about with the first pick. Sorry, with the first pick, excuse me, uh, with Ryan Wilson's great. They do a lot of draft coverage, but also get into a lot of stuff that goes on in the NFL, uh, currently. And ran said, I think it was this past week. Uh, I saw the clip on, on social media that Mike Washington is a better fit for the Raiders offense than Ashton Jendi. Now that doesn't mean he's going to play over Ashton Jendi. That's better than Ashton Jendi. He's just a better fit for what he does and what this offense is asking for. They're running backs to do. And so ran off also, by the way, former NFL running back played for the Colts. Um, we'll find out if that's the case. I do think I remember saying this after the draft with Kubiak that are we going to see the Seahawks? And it was just so dominant for Jenti last year that Raheem Mostert, who was their number two running back barely played. I'm going to guess he had probably the highest percentage of touches of any running back on his team last season. And now we have this opening from Jenti being hurt and the way Washington looked, does Kubiak get his chance to use a two back system and take some pressure off of Jenti? So you got to be a little bit concerned about Jenti, even if he is a hundred percent. And I think it's great call by Heath. You know, I'm, I'm sure we've all moved them up to a certain degree based on where it was. I know Heath was sort of ahead of the curve on this, that this could be a potential flex. You know, there's always, he's got like you mentioned two of those quorum and, and Manunga, like we may get, we may get flex production while the starter quote unquote starter is healthy. And then you get that lottery ticket. Boom. If the starter does go down, I keep forgetting to bring this guy up. It's not really relevant to this conversation, but got an email about him. It's relevant to this conversation, not this topic. I got an email about him and never read it. I don't think, but do you guys think Dylan Sampson is going to be someone that could give us flex production based on his role with the Browns, Dylan Sampson? I don't know that the Browns will have enough offensive success for that to happen. I think they're like Judkins is their best offensive player and they're just going to want to keep them on the field to try to keep the offense alive, but maybe. Okay. All right. Let's get back to Heath. So you got it. Well, if you, if you, if you like just the PPR guys, so like Gainwell, Rashad White, Tajay Spears, like Dylan Sampson's in that mold, but at the very end of that group, man, you said if you like, and I almost just started singing Pina Coladas right there, but Heath, Chris, Godwin is your next riser. He's almost like the, the FFT darling, like the, the community riser here. We are excited about him. He's going 88th right now in that real time. ADP is wide receiver 35. How about you, Heath? I just want you to know that while I was at the beach yesterday, I did have a Pina Colada. So you'd be happy to, I do like Pina Coladas. Yeah, I was, I was pretty out on Chris Godwin a month ago. And it's been very encouraging camp reports as I think Jamie made the joke. About last week. He's an old guy who got through training camp healthy. It was your joke. I I'm, I'm still behind Jamie on him, but I'm now ahead of ADP. Uh, happy to draft Chris Godwin in round seven. If he gets there, I think he's a, he's a good wide receiver three. That might be a wide receiver two in week one or better. If a Mecca book is not healthy. Parker Washington, a riser for you. Is this reluctantly, uh, right now he's going 66th overall. That is round six wide receiver 29. So I'm ahead of Parker Washington's ADP apparently now too, but I never get, I never get, I think I've drafted him twice in 20 drafts, but, uh, no, you don't have a choice. Like the choice is how much do you want to react to Parker Washington? Not if you react to Parker Washington, it's been one of it's either going to be one of the most hilarious rounds of coach speak that we've ever had, or he's the most obvious breakout ever. those are pretty much the only two options not just coach speak reporter speak too That's kind of the thing. It's like every reporter has been Parker Washington. If Luther burden had not gotten hurt, it might've been a, a close battle between Parker Washington and Luther burden for like the most positive vibes of the off season. But because burden missed a month, I think Washington was easily the, the darling of, of the off season. And Dalton Schultz, the last riser on this list for you currently tight end 18 in between Hunter Henry and Brenton strange two picks after two tight end picks after Juwan Johnson. I would like to draft Dalton Schultz before all of those guys. Thankfully I don't have to. A lot of times he's, I mean, I look today, he's available in 49% of leagues. Some leagues haven't drafted yet. So maybe that's why, but he's going to be available. He's going to be on the waiver wire column for sure. I would think he had 106 targets last year. They lost more target competition than they gained. He's the guy that, that CJ Stroud trusts when Nico Collins is not open. And he has a chance to be 110 plus targets this year. He does have the worst based on last year, the worst week one matchup with Buffalo. Things could change, but Buffalo was terrific at covering tight ends. They smother tight ends. You do not give up a lot of short, easy throws, but they don't have Sean McDermott anymore. I don't know what that's going to look like here. So I would guess a completely different defensive system. Yeah, could be. Yeah, they're changing their front. So there's, there's definitely going to be a change. And he's, he's between him and John Johnson. There's just, it's easy. If you whiff on the position to take these two guys because of what has transpired post NFL draft, like you, you thought Jaden Higgins was going to be this potential breakout guy. We had Chris Harris, you know, Harris football saying that that was one of his favorite breakouts. I think a lot of people were thinking he's going to have a big role and tank Dell was going to be healthy. And then we see both those guys starting the season. And I are Higgins out for the year. We thought Jordan Tyson was going to be a big piece of the saints offense. Another tight end. And Jawan Johnson, who was awesome at the end of last season for fantasy managers, given the cost, like these are just two. Okay. Holy cow. I whiffed on the, on, on tight end because somebody took two and I don't know who to draft. Like these two guys are great. He may not have the best, may not have the best matchups week in week out, but yeah, you know, under the circumstances, like they're easy fallback option. Well, if he's going to get six targets, if, if sorry, Adam, if, if Schultz is going to get six or more targets, he had 10 of those games last year, 11, plus PPR and seven of them. Nice. So that's what you got to hope for. You have to worry about, well, does the tenor of this offense change because David Montgomery is there. They should be able to run the ball a little bit more effectively. Guys like Jalen Knoll and Keishon booty are going to get bigger opportunities. Booty obviously just got acquired by the Texans from new England. Are they going to take targets away from Schultz? Schultz is kind of boring, but if, if you see a pathway to him getting six plus targets per game, I think, you know, the numbers will be there. Okay. I'm not sure booty. I'm not sure booty and Schultz. We'll ever be within 30 yards of each other on a route. That's true. Um, Keishon booty is like a gunner on a special teams. All right. We'll be right back, um, with more Jamie's risers. And then our followers, I'm trying to save a little time for your emails at the end of the show. We'll be right back. And Jamie's got a couple of risers to talk about Jordan love, who is in real time, ADP QB 18, 140th overall. And Quinton Johnston, who is now wide receiver, 41 going just ahead of Jaden Reed. He also had remand Ray Stevenson on the list, but we talked about that, but, uh, Jordan love, do you have him higher than QB 18? Yes. And I would take him ahead of Patrick. Woo. Okay. Would you take him ahead of Kyler Murray? No, they're back to back. Okay. How about Quentin Johnston versus Jaden Reed? Quentin Johnston over January. Uh, I think you're looking at a guy for the last two seasons has scored eight touchdowns and got off to such a good start. Just such a great start last year. The first four games of the season, at least 14.9 PPR points per game, average 19.9 PPR points in those four games. Joe Alt was healthy for all four of those games. So healthy offensive line. I think we're Sean Slater back. There's a, there's a path to a lot of production in this offense. And this was one, you know, you you've kind of framed this in a way that I didn't necessarily mean to put Quentin Johnson on it. This isn't somebody that's been a significant riser. It's just been somebody that's slowly risen after the last couple of weeks, not necessarily moved a ton, but just somebody I get more excited about. So I would actually look for him in round six at this point. Like I think when Johnston could get to that thousand and 10 Mark that we love, um, his max so far has been again, a touchdown, 775 yards. Um, the way that Mike McDaniel talks about him and the fact that I hope he stays healthy, I love it banged up in camp. It just feels like Latin McConkey and Quentin Johnson are both have big years. He averaged 11.8 PPR points per game last year. And that was his average. Even after his big four games that Jamie just talked about in 2024, he averaged 11.7. So if we just look at this guy and say, okay, he's close to 12 PPR points, just in a, in a normal year for the chargers without a genius play caller, then maybe there's a chance there that he can get a little bit better than that and could be worth the round six back. I'd like some odds on Quentin Johnson outscoring Ladd McConkey for a second straight year. You're the guy that does this. You put the odds out there. No, I want to add them together. I want to get them to give them so I can make them make a bet. But you're the professional. Yeah. I'm bad at giving odds. If anybody wants to be inspired, my podcast league team picking fifth 14 team league. I went running back heavy McCaffrey Bowers, Travis ETN, HN and cam Scataboo. And my two starting wide receivers. I'm sure I was the last person to take a wide receiver. Chris Godwin, 61st overall Quentin Johnston, 80th overall. Jamie loves my team. I really do. It's a two, two great, two great wide receivers in that type of format to get at that point. You'd love to have a little bit of a better guy at the top of that. I can give you a similar situation in our 18 team office. I think it's 18 team, 18 team office league where you start one quarterback, one running back, one wide receiver, tight end and two flexes. I have Garrett Wilson, Chris Godwin and Quentin Johnston. Yeah. Great. Love it. Okay. And Jane Reed. Oh, okay. On your, on your bench. Jane Reed. Yeah. Uh, fallers here. Uh, then we might retire it after this one, but Jamie's faller is, I don't know. Maybe it's run its course, but Jeremiah love hasn't run anything yet, but yeah, he's, he's currently going 30th in the real time ADP and the NFC ADP. Let's see where he's going here. He's going 37th. Where would you take Jeremiah love? Yeah. In that range, 37th. Uh, he's around four pick early round four pick for me. I'm just a little, I'm concerned with the ankle injury on top of all the other things that could go wrong for the Cardinals. He's an amazing talent. And I think you're going to get a lot of highlight plays and some big games, but their schedule is awful. Their wind total is not expected to be very high. There's going to be Tyler Algier taking touchdowns, which is nerve wracking. We'll see if James Connor gets healthy and plays at some point. So if you want to draft him in round three and you look at that group of running backs, Devante Williams, Kyron Williams, um, Travis H and Deandre Swift, Brees Hall, like he's in that conversation for sure. You know, whether you want them at the front of it or the back of it. For me, he's in front of all those guys. He's, I'm sorry. He's behind all those guys except for Brees Hall. So I just think with Swift having no Monongai and H and having no Camara early in the season, that gives those guys a little bit of a leg up and they're on much better offenses. And then it's just a matter of just how much does the town of Jeremiah love exceed all of those other players. So I'm just, I'm just a little bit cautious. I haven't drafted him very much. I think I haven't been maybe one week. I, I just did my week one projections this weekend and we're going to have our rankings on the site tomorrow. Um, I don't have Jeremiah love. It's a top 24 running back this week. Yeah. I don't know if I'll be there either. You know, like this is one where you're talking Marshawn Lloyd and Ramondre Stevenson and guys that, you know, could be in a much better standing than him. I don't know if Ramondre is in a much better situation, but, um, without Trevion, I'd take him over to Jeremiah. I mean, I'll give you, I mean, over Jeremiah love. Yeah, I guess so. But I mean, tomorrow or Tuesday, whatever, I will, I'll give you plenty of running backs who had a ton of touches against Seattle and did absolutely garbage. They didn't play on the Patriots. I, I mean, I think Bijan Robinson might've been one of them. Um, I mean, I could be confusing with the Patriots defense cause their run defense was even better than Seattle's when Milton Williams was healthy, but these were two of the toughest matchups in fantasy for running backs last year. Okay. Moving on. Carnell Tate, uh, currently going, 77th in between Marvin Harrison jr. And DK Metcalf, you Carnell Tate, a follower for you, Jamie. Carnell Tate's a follower just with the way the Titans offense has looked like this is, this is one, you know, how you, how you set this up beginning of camp was willing to take the risk on him in round six, like top rookie wide receiver. They needed this type of player, special talent. And he still might be, I have a feeling second half of the season, he's going to look a lot better. But right now the Titans look lost and there's just a lot of like, I'd rather have Quinn Johnston and Jaden Reed than Carnell Tate, which isn't something I'd never thought I'd say. Okay. And Terry McLaurin wide receiver, 24 right now going 55th in between Devante Adams and Luther burden, Terry McLaurin, a follower for you. Yeah. You know, first off the dig signing, you know, that, that was, uh, an issue, you know, it was, it was great when there was, um, the, the path to whatever David Blau said, you know, the 10 targets per game. Yeah. Hopefully that's still the case, but now you have offense, blind concerns, you have target concerns, it's just hard to say that Terry McCorn at 31 years old is that exciting so I think he's a good settle for number two wide receiver uh still has the upside to be a top 20 guy but this was somebody I remember the fishbowl I drafted him fourth fourth or fifth round you know I forget how it all played out but like as my second receiver was like so excited about the opportunity you know that was a draft that was in early early middle middle of August I think early August um so since camp it's just been a slow slide like I'd rather have Devante Adams than than Terry McCorn I never would have said that at start camp okay good stuff Jeremiah Love, Carnell Tate, and Terry McCorn as fallers for Jamie Heath has Chuba Hubbard as a faller he's currently looking at that fantasy pros real time he's still just ahead of of Josh Jacobs which I think well you tell me if you agree with it but also ahead of Jonathan Brooks Chuba Hubbard is RB 30 right now what are you thinking about the the Panthers backfield I don't think that number is accurate um looking at FFPC drafts from the last two days he's going 102nd overall which sounds a little bit more right I think he's around nine pick and the funny thing is Chuba Hubbard's fall I wasn't necessarily talking entirely about my rankings but just about the way things are now I think his fall has made him a better draft pick than he was a month ago a month ago I didn't want to draft him at all and I wanted to draft Jonathan Brooks because he'd be so much cheaper and now Chuba might be a slightly better value than Jonathan Brooks but I still wouldn't take him before round nine so if he's actually going 88th overall um I think that's too high but round nine pick and a chance that maybe he's just the lead back again at some point and the latest report we got was that the Panthers were optimistic about Jonathan Brooks being ready for week one so we got to keep that in mind but yeah I mean like the guy who's torn his ACL twice and now is already is hurt you know but it's well it's soreness yeah all right we'll probably find out it was planned like McCaffrey's yeah exactly no issues Makai Lemon he is now going 109th overall in between Michael Pittman and Dajon Stripling I I thought this guy was right in the conversation right behind Jordan Tyson and I guess he's still in the conversation in between them now because Jordan Tyson's out for a lot but you never like it when rookie wide receivers miss a bunch of time in camp and it sounds like the expectation should be week one that Dontavion Wicks is the wide receiver two on his team I don't think that's going to last very long and again Lemon probably now a better pick than he was when his ADP was higher uh round 10 seems about right I would rather draft him I don't I'm not drafting Michael Pittman and I would draft him over Dajon Stripling but he's one of those guys like you talked about with Stripling you might drop him after week one yeah don't click Makai Lemon if you're thinking you might drop him after week one right yes like you you draft him and plan on holding him for six weeks yeah that's a great point um Tyler Warren is tight end four in ADP he's going 50th that's 15 to 16 picks ahead of Sam Laporta and Tucker absurd absurd so he's a faller for you Tyler Warren yeah um I I don't I don't think the Keenan Allen news was good good news for Santa Laporta it was uh or for Tyler Warren it was it's my way you love yeah well no you said Sam Laporta when you're talking about his ADP um they work in exactly the same part of the field and Laporta's been a little banged up here at the end of camp as well and I I I said Laporta for Warren again um didn't want to keep saying Sam Laporta yeah no I I'm just I would draft both Sam Laporta and Kyle Pitts ahead of Tyler Warren and I said all the names correctly that time there you go and a last guy on your list another follower at tight end second year tight end for the Chargers Aranda Laporta Aranda Laporta don't don't do not do not draft him he was super cool last year but like maybe we'll pick him up on the waiver wire at some point do not draft him okay you might pick up Charlie Kohler yeah I don't really believe that either come on the joke who's got to be the like the guy who's gonna catch that Charlie Kohler he's never done that yeah I mean remember Colby Parkinson when he never did that and then he was the guy last year for the Rams I mean that's sometimes that happens but you look you notice that they're not talking about Colby Parkinson this year right like the guy no now they're talking about Tyler Higby they're talking about Terrence Ferguson all the time Ferguson's been hurt and they made Higby a captain well Higby's being a captain does not increase his fantasy value this will be the last three drafts um Terrence Ferguson's like an eighth round pick that's kind of crazy it's incredible I would I would definitely take a flyer on Terrence Ferguson of all the tight ends in Los Angeles yes if if you look at what these coaches do like they don't do what we want them to do like we want to see Aranda Gadsden we want to see Terrence Ferguson and you may get Parkinson or Higby and you may get Charlie Kohler uh Dan just took Terrence Ferguson 150 first overall in our Elimination League and I'm really upset about it because I was hoping to take him with the 153rd pick okay that's round 13. yes okay I mean I've seen Dijon stripling go round six I'm not going to say who took him but it's a prominent fantasy analyst in the high stakes League so there's some definite people who are like when you love your guy thanks to the whole thing that we've talked about before when you want your guy you go get your guy just be a little reasonable about it well when you're in high stakes leagues you got like if we just talked about stripling hits that's a huge win right but there's going to be you know two or three other people that you could have taken in that spot in that round at that ADP that could have been better if they don't hit Dave's got up two fallers that he wanted to mention Cam scataboo we talked about 40 minutes ago and a Mecca a buka and I feel so free oh the toe I love to buka top 15 receiver for me all off season long and then he hurts his toe and the fact that it's taking him just until now to get back into practice for Tampa and it looks like he'll be ready to go for week one it's discouraging it makes me worry about him being able to reach his ceiling this year makes me worried about him re-injuring it it does seem like if he's out this long that it was turf toe I guess I'm glad that it happened now because if it happened in season we'd have to have him on the bench or in an IR spot but missing all this camp time I doubt that he'll be ready to be full go and command targets the same way that he would if he had been healthy all all pre-season long nice thing is you got him cheaper though that's true but I'm the the what I want to say here Godwin looked great in the practice I saw the reports have been good about Godwin Ted Hurst has been making inroads on getting playing time Jalen McMillan who was out with an injury he's on the same timetable as a buka so this receiving core is getting pretty crowded and Baker loves Ted Hurst and he's been talking up Godwin saying like this is the best version of Chris Godwin since you know 2024 which I mean that dude was pretty amazing in 2024 and he looked good in camp this year so I I'm a little worried about a buka being eight targets per game and that's what I was kind of expecting before the injury and now it's going to be around seven you're going to get him as a number two wide receiver he'll have some blow-up weeks probably won't be for the first few weeks of the season Luther burden or a Mecca buka I think you gotta go burden now yep yep yeah bird in the hand you know what they say it's worth one in the abuka thank you to whoop for sponsoring this week's risers and followers with whoop you can better understand how your body is responding to the travel the training the late nights the weather changes it helps you see what's supporting your energy and recovery and what might be holding you back so you can make meaningful changes changes to enhance your overall health and once again if you'd like to join Heath and Jamie and tons of other whoop users and learn how you can get a free month on us head to join.whoop.com slash FFT that is join.whoop.com slash FFT I'm gonna go three minutes for emails here you guys ready go Tim in Denver hey Mary Harry and Lloyd I know that one do you Adam and Adamer 12 team PPR League where the prior year's champion gets to pick a temporary one-year rule change the guy who won last year never wins and pulled off a miracle and now his rule change is the dumbest rule in the entire world we are only allowed to make five acquisitions all year so bad how would this change your strategy Jamie how to change my strategy I hope there's a lot of trades um I would be clearly cautious with the the moves I would make but it just sucks because like you can't stream defenses you gotta worry about your bi-weeks I hate it yeah yeah but like do you take a defense do you take a defense earlier do you take like Jonathan yeah you take two defenses you get how many bench spots he said we at least increase the bench size so it's almost like a best ball league oh yeah I mean in that case you're taking two defenses you're taking two kickers probably you're taking or I would hopefully eliminate kickers and defense if you want to just really make it the the best version of this um yeah you gotta be you gotta be cautious there you go frank my strategy would be to leave the league from frank i love it all right next question we'll give us one to dave hopefully he can get dan dan would absolutely butcher that answer you you guys would you guys would love i don't know how much you guys listen talking to heath and dave like you guys listen to the mailbag when we do fantasy cops because dan does not answer the question dan just i'm gonna say it sorry i just he just craps on the league he shits all over the league come on like just constantly like he would just forget about that answer just just destroy the league and does he go on and on for like 90 seconds destroying the 90 seconds that reminds me i need to remove his commissioner access and the beyond the box score dynasty league yes there you go uh this question is uh i don't dave i don't have a name or a city here bob from ogden utah dear halal dave come on dave it's easy hello it's not easy halal is pretty easy though these are former red hot chili peppers guitarists he read it in the answer he read it in the email flexing his rhcp love what's your favorite chili pepper song oh i don't know any of the names of the songs by the way how many times have you seen them live for those of you who haven't seen them be curious i've seen them twice um we were actually gonna do the beachhead smith leagues again but we weren't able to make it happen unfortunately i know so you gave it away now they felt bad about that so we'll do it next year um oh man i've oh the question was it's for dave what do you do in a league where like everyone drafts quarterbacks early we always say wait for quarterback but you clearly can't because you end up with crappy quarterbacks is everybody taking two quarterbacks some of them a lot of them take two sometimes even three there's still going to be somebody there he says he's been burned in the past by getting crappy quarterbacks just just adjust your league take them earlier i guess um heath are we are we overlooking the fact that jonathan taylor had a massive point drop off when daniel jones missed games and um considering jones's track record of missing time is that enough to take cook over jonathan taylor's it is not enough for me but that's the same thing i would say about hn and it's just because that it's not as if like i know james cook was right behind those guys when you look at the rankings of where guys finished last year but he wasn't right behind those guys in terms of fantasy points per game it's a pretty big gap and so i'm first off i'm not going to lower jonathan taylor just because daniel jones might get hurt but second off he would have to make up a pretty big gap that's the boogeyman case for jonathan taylor you want the boogeyman case for james cook okay i won't give it to you yeah sure go for it and we'll end the show on that 385 touches last year career high yeah that's a lot for 835 yards and six touchdowns off the last five rushing leaders it's such a random stat i love it such a random stat it's like well it just well what does it take to be the leading rusher in the league it takes a lot of and so the year after the there's gonna be some regression but he barely had more yards and in the same amount of carries basically as jonathan taylor and derrick henry it's basically just semantics that he won the rushing title like are we not afraid that jonathan taylor or derrick henry are both gonna have a six a four thousand they didn't win the rushing title adam henry what's that they didn't win the rushing title that's not how it works right that's what i'm saying it's like it's you know all right we're gonna go but just because i'm sorry you don't understand math he was 15 touches short of a rushing title and he didn't win the rushing title and he didn't win the of 100, or 400 rather, the rules about 400-touch running backs should probably apply to him. Right, exactly. Draft for A. Davis. Everyone sucks. They're all busts. Everyone's a bust. We'll talk to you on Tuesday, everybody. Enjoy your day off. And if you're still drafting, good luck. If not, let's get ready for week one. Talk to you Tuesday on Fantasy Football Today. The world crowned its winner. Now, the Champions Play. We're the best players from the best clubs collide from September to June. And every match is paramount. This is the world's best soccer. The UEFA Champions League. Stream every match live. exclusively on Paramount+.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Josh Jacobs' moved-up court date has caused a shift in draft strategies, with some players moving him up to round 9 or 10, though uncertainty remains about his season availability.
  2. Marshawn Lloyd is seen as a rising value at RB 29–31, with strong upside due to his starting role with the Packers, though concerns remain about his consistency and injury risk.
  3. Cam Scadaboo has fallen significantly in draft rankings, dropping from RB15 to RB19, despite being a potential starter for the Giants, and is now considered a high-risk, high-reward pick in late rounds.

Summary:

Fantasy Football Today discusses key draft trends and player movements ahead of the 2024 season. Central to the conversation is the impact of Josh Jacobs’ rescheduled court date, which has pushed his draft position earlier—now considered a potential late-round pick in rounds 9–10—though uncertainty remains about his actual availability. Marshawn Lloyd is emerging as a top-tier running back pick at RB 29–31, with strong upside due to his established role with the Packers, though fantasy managers remain cautious about his consistency.

Cam Scadaboo, once a rising pick, has significantly fallen in rankings—from RB15 to RB19—due to mounting uncertainty about his role with the Giants, leading to a reevaluation of his value as a late-round, high-risk option. Other notable shifts include Dajon Stribling rising as a breakout wide receiver in the 49ers’ offense due to youth and potential target share, while Mike Washington and Chris Godwin are highlighted as flex options in the Raiders and Dolphins, respectively. The panel also notes that several players, including Jeremiah Love, Carnell Tate, and Terry McLaurin, are considered fallers due to injury concerns, inconsistent performance, or poor target projections.

With real-time ADP data showing fluctuations across teams, the emphasis is on balancing risk and value, especially in high-impact matchups like Week 1. The show reinforces the importance of drafting with flexibility, monitoring injury reports, and considering roster depth and matchup dynamics to maximize fantasy success.

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Fantasy Football Today airs on Sunday nights at 7:30 p.m. Eastern Time, leading into the Labor Day weekend.

Marshawn Lloyd is currently ranked RB 29, 80th overall, while Josh Jacobs is RB 31, 88th overall in real-time ADP data.

Josh Jacobs' court date has been moved up, creating uncertainty about his suspension, which may allow him to play this season and could lead to a draft pick shift.

Lloyd is the starting running back for the Packers and has a strong role, making him a reliable option, especially if other running backs are injured or unavailable.

Cam Scadaboo is considered a high-risk, high-reward pick with a real-time ADP around 42nd, and analysts are cautious due to uncertainty in the Giants' backfield.

Yes, players like Jaden Reed, Chris Godwin, and Parker Washington are rising due to strong camp reports and potential injuries or changes in team roles.

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