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Biggest Draft Lessons + Easiest & Toughest Schedules (09/02 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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 Biggest Draft Lessons + Easiest & Toughest Schedules (09/02 Fantasy Football Podcast)

The episode dives into fantasy football strategies, focusing on real draft experiences and early-season schedule analysis. Key takeaways include the Jaguars’ challenging opening slate and the identification of elite defensive teams—particularly the Rams, Broncos, and Steelers—as critical factors in player projections. A major discussion centers on running back drafting, where several analysts express caution about high-end RB2s like Kyron Williams, citing inconsistent point production and split carries. Instead, they advocate for a deeper, more flexible approach by drafting multiple running backs across later rounds—especially in mid-to-late round five—to hedge against injuries or poor performance. The conversation also highlights the value of tight ends, noting that eight strong options exist, including Sam LaPorta, Kyle Pitts, and Kyle Pits, making the position more accessible than in previous years. Quarterbacks are seen as a value pick later in the draft, with Jared Goff highlighted as a high-potential, low-ADP quarterback due to Detroit’s favorable schedule and strong offensive environment. Additionally, real draft lessons stress the importance of avoiding over-reliance on popular players like Harold Fanon or Kyron Williams, and instead prioritizing value, depth, and flexibility. The team also notes shifts in player availability due to injuries, such as Isaiah Patecheko and Patrick McCarrie, and emphasizes the need for waiver wire planning. Ultimately, the episode reinforces a balanced, thoughtful drafting strategy that accounts for both schedule dynamics and player health, ensuring long-term competitiveness without overcommitting to any single position.

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>> This is fantasy football today from CBS sports. >> It's time to dominate your fantasy Lee. >> Now you're some combination of Adam Dave Jamie and he. >> It's Wednesday. It's hump day. It's September 2nd. We are a week away from football. What's up everybody? Welcome to fantasy football today. The gang is all here to tell you lessons that we have learned from our real drafts. Not our mock drafts, but our real drafts. Plus, schedule alert. >> Who's got some tough schedules early? Some easy schedules early? Whose ears are ruptured? Did I scream too loud? >> No, no, no. That was perfectly fine. We're going to have to have the how many defenses actually matter discussion when you're looking at fantasy schedules thing again. >> Trevor Lawrence and the Jaguars have a pretty tough schedule to start things off. Cleveland, Attenver, New England, at Cincinnati, Philadelphia, Houston. In their first six games and then a buy. And then the Colts might not have that bad of a defense. The Ravens might have a much better defense. That's after the buy. So I think the Jaguars have a pretty tough schedule. I'm not afraid to say that. Jack? >> Anyone can come. >> Okay, fine. Who are the defenses that matter? Clearly, the Rams matter. And what I did this morning, by the way, is I looked at three different websites. I looked at PFF, ESPN, and Sharp Football Analysis. They're rankings of defensive lines, front seven for sharp football, and secondaries. And I tried to come up with the consensus teams that were really good up front, were really good in the secondary, and really bad up front, and really bad in the secondary. And what you come up with is, and plus it's also common sense, like we know who's good. The Rams, the Texans, the Seahawks, the Eagles, the Steelers, are the consensus really good teams up front. Rams, Texans, Seahawks, Eagles, Steelers, not necessarily Denver or Baltimore, but they're in contention. And the teams that are really good in the secondary are New England, Houston, Seattle, the Rams, the Eagles, Denver, Baltimore. It's kind of in Pittsburgh. It's kind of the same team. Baltimore, Pittsburgh is sort of on the cusp. Houston, Denver, Seattle, Rams, Eagles, Patriots are the teams that show up a lot. Patriots more so in the back and then the front end. But we know they have a great run defense when the Williams is on the field. We saw they were a brutal match up last week. So I do feel confident, saying that those teams are good defenses. I have no problem with that. Heath Cummings, bam. So if I'm talking about what's going to matter for my projections, the Rams and the Broncos absolutely 100% for sure. Probably also the Seahawks, Texans, Eagles, maybe, maybe, probably not. Maybe the Patriots Viking Steelers. The Vikings, Vikings allowed, I think one touchdown pass in their last eight games or something like that. I know they had some losses on defense, but they are core defense. That's my list. Maybe they guys have a different list, but it's not, it's not half of the league. No, I took the top eight, basically, the top, you know, 25% of the league or whatever it is. All right, anyway, we'll talk about that later. Also a fact that I, as I was looking into these defenses, something I forgot from last year, the Jets did not record an interception in, in 2025. They played the Titans week one, right? Or the Raiders week one. Titans. Titans. All right. Robert. Maybe they'll get it. Let's get some big news. We're also going to give you, like I said, the lessons we learned from, from drafts. Hey, Jamie, I don't think you've spoken. Good morning. Good morning. Okay. You've spoken. George Kiddell traveled to Australia. Heath back to you. I think I heard you talking before the show that you might be moving Kiddell up in your rankings. I was too low on George Kiddell. I didn't expect him to recover this quickly. Modern medicine is fantastic. He should, he is in the, it's Kiddell, Vannon, likely in one tier now for me. Jamie, your reaction, George Kiddell, on the, on the trip to Australia. It's a great sign. Still not a guarantee that he's going to play, but, you know, a great sign that he's with the team and, you know, training in the right direction after we had the, I guess the comment from Kyle Shanahan, something about a setback. I don't exactly remember what the quote was, but, you know, scaring fantasy managers, I guess, for, for a little bit there. But yes, that's the tier he belongs in. You know, the, the back half of the, the middle group. Okay, with, so who's taking, he said Kiddell fan and likely. That's how you rank them, Heath. As of this second, yes. Dave Kiddell fan and likely rank them. Likely fan and Kiddell, Jamie. Likely Kiddell fan. Okay. The Packers say they have not seen the Josh Jacobs video. I thought we'd take a look at March on Lloyd's ADP on NFC where you can, you know, just look at yesterday. Okay. Where's March on Lloyd going? Where's Josh Jacobs going? Lloyd 21 drafts was RB 29 on average, 74th overall. Just after Jonathan Brooks and Jalen Warren. And just before Tony Powell. That's March on Lloyd. Josh Jacobs was RB 47 overall, a hundred, RB 47, a hundred and 36th overall. And, yeah, Dave, I'll throw this out. Do you think it could be a tough start to the year for the Packers run game. At Minnesota, week one, and then at the Jets. A team that could, they traded for Tavandre Sweat, they could be better on the interior. At least that Minnesota and week one at the Jets and week two is that concern you at all when it comes to taking them. Sure. And part of it has to do with the fact that I'm not sure the Packers' offensive line is particularly good. And they've been rated pretty low by all the offensive line projectors in the inner sphere. I think that the Jets and the Falcons matchups are going to be favorable. I think the Bears matchup and week five will be favorable. I don't, I'm not running away from Lloyd because of his offensive line or his schedule. I think we're pretty much set with, he's an RB two candidate for however long that he stays healthy and for however long Josh Jacobs is suspended. Yeah, look, Minnesota, they did, they did lose Jonathan Grinard. Who else did they lose from that defense? They lost both of their veteran detacles, I believe. And their first contact is not in good shape right now. So they may not be quite as good as they were last year, but they usually end up being a pretty good defense. So Green Bay starts at Minnesota, but then it's pretty good after that at the Jets just for overall for the team. At the Jets, Atlanta, at Tampa Bay, Chicago, Dallas, Act Detroit, Carolina, it's actually looks really good for Green Bay after week one. Jamie, Josh Kendall, the athletic thinks that Bijon Robinson fantasy managers may not like how many goal line carries Brian Robinson gets. And he also says that if two of Tonga by Loa starts 17 games this season, damn, I did miss my laughter sound bite there. Kyle Pitz may have the breakout fantasy season people have been waiting for. What do you think of this speculation from Josh Kendall, the athletic? Both things make sense. You know, you have a scenario here where basically Brian Robinson is the entire Algeria replacement, but it still was just kind of a speed bump. I guess in Bijon Robinson being an elite fantasy option last year. So it's just one thing I think to consider if anybody still favors Bijon over Gibbs with now Gibbs having really no competition with Pacheco on IR. The Lions have, they kept five running backs including Pacheco coming out of the final cuts. And so we'll see who ends up being number two now until Pacheco is ready. I think just in the case of Bijon Robinson, you just understand like there's going to be some moments where you're frustrated because of what Brian Robinson does. I, you know, we've kind of illustrated this a lot and I know Dave came around to it after watching the first preseason game. If two of starts are going to be a lot of dink and dunk to pits, if panic starts, there's going to be a lot of dink and dunk passes to pits, just probably not as much. But this is the Kevin's to fancy offense that favors tight ends, loves tight ends, gives tight ends, many opportunities to say that this is the breakout season. I don't know if he's going to be that much better than he was last year in totality, but maybe just more consistent in the games that we saw within without Drake London. Fun fact at him. Yeah. Two has the same number of 17 game seasons as Joe, and in six seasons has appeared in one more game than Joe, bro. Wow. That's, that is a fun fact. Not great for Joe, bro. Just a thought on Bijon Robinson. It's kind of amazing. He averaged 22 PPR points per game last year with 11 touchdowns in 17 games. Seven rushing for receiving, and he split the goal line work basically evenly with Tyler Algier last year. The year before that, he had 10 goal line carries while Algier had five last year was six for Algier and Bijon had five. But I just, I'm amazed at how good he could, he could be 22 points per game with only 11 touchdowns in 17 games. All right. Next news item here before we get to our lessons learned, Jesse Newell of the athletics says the chief's view Kenneth Walker as a potential three down back. So we did this exercise last week. I think we're going to do it again. Get your get ready to exercise. No. No. No. No. Hi. Yeah. Yeah. It is Kenneth Walker, Omari and Hampton. Seiko on Barclay and the H.Anne, who are your top two in that group? Kenneth Walker, Omari and Hampton, Sequan Barkley, Devon H.Anne, Jamie. Kenneth Walker, and Omari and Hampton. Dave. H.Anne Walker. H.Anne Walker. All right, so Walker for all three of you, H.Anne. That's some full PPR. I think it's a flip for me if it's half or non-PPR. Okay, H.Anne for two of you, and you said Hampton, right? Hampton Walker, Jamie? H.Anne Walker, Hampton. H.Anne Walker, hang attention. H.Anne Walker, Hampton, Texas Ranger. And Ashton Genti is on the mend. I wouldn't say he's necessarily a lock for week one, but don't be surprised. And man, we hope he plays week one 'cause he's facing the dolphins. Can you really be the first time? What was the draft, Genti? I will look that up and tell you, but I took him in the fourth round. So it was a receiver receiver. Yeah. Was I? Superflex, right? Yeah, yeah. Correct. So receiver, receiver, quarterback, Genti. Listen, I don't want to talk about my teams too much, but I just want everyone to know that I finally drafted Jamira Gibbs yesterday, and I'm so fired up about it. Let's go! That landed in your lap. Oh, amazing. What a gift. Third overall in the Superflex league. Josh Allen, the Mar Jackson, and then I was like, oh, let me get Jamira Gibbs after Josh Allen went. And Jamira Gibbs got taken, but it was an auto pick. And then Jack came back, and he was like, I'll take the Mar Jackson, like, yeah, let's go! All right. It worked out well for me too, because Robert Thomas took Puka right before Chase. And I like Chase better than Puka. Yes, I saw that. It was weird that Chase was. Do you remember who your quarterbacks are? If you got Gibbs in round one? I didn't take a quarterback until pretty late. I took Gibbs, AJ Brown. Who did I take in the third round? You took in the third round. Adam Azer took AJ Brown. Oh. So wait, oh, I took Gibbs Hampton, AJ Brown, from the three spot. Jared Goff, Tyler Schuck, and Daniel Jones are my quarterbacks. All right. All right, so you want to know what running backs went in between Henry and Jenny? Yeah, and how far apart? Only one, and it was Travis H.Anne. Henry went with the 34th pick in round three. And I took Jenny with the 43rd pick in round four. Listen to Heath's team, Dave. You went almost as far as I did at the quarterback position, but I did one up you, I think. Yeah, oh, yeah. So I started off with Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffrey, George Pickens, Zae Flowers, Jeremiah Love, Sam LaPorta. Six picks before he took a quarterback. I got it. 12 team league. Yeah. That's OK. That's OK. I have CJ Stroud, Bryce Young, and both Thalcon's quarterbacks. Yeah, I mean, you're a great shape there. But-- So I highlighted three teams in the draft of three different quarterback approaches. One was Heath's about waiting for quarterbacks. One was Jacks, who took quarterback quarterback to start a draft, and then I just wrote about mine, which was more like just kind of a balance approach. So if you want to read and see it, if you're not watching this show and seeing what's on the screen quickly, you can get a full breakdown of our latest superflex draft. Oh, superflex is the best. I mean, you could just-- there's so many ways you can go, and it's so much fun. And where else can you get-- Jeremiah Love. That wasn't loud enough, I think. In round four, or round five, wherever you got him. He got him in round five. Round five. End of round five. Five, 11. End of round five, I love it. OK, leftovers league draft is tonight. Heath and I have the second pick. If you have the first pick in the leftovers league draft tonight, please don't take Jameer Gibbs. When is our auction draft, Dave? I have absolutely no idea. Would you like to commission that one, too, Jamie? No, that is all yours. And I don't know if it is. Two lessons learned from recent drafts from each of us. I'll just go first and knock them out real quick here. I am so out on Harold Fanon, Jr. And it's so out, what's that? And ADP is zooming to the sky. He's up to 70 seconds overall. Really? Yes, he's flying up draft boards. I can't bring myself-- I've never heard you were out. I can't bring myself to your hefty. I almost drafted Kelsey over him yesterday, which I think would be a little silly. But not really. I mean, Kelsey was a top five tight end when my homes was healthy. And I don't know, I just hate the Browns offense, and I hate-- I love Concepcion and Boston, whatever. And I love Fanon. He's a great player, but I just can't bring myself to draft him unless it's round nine, I'd say. But I'm not wasting a mid-round pick on him. I'm excited he's going to be next year when they get a quarterback. It's going to be great, but am I crazy here? Am I going too far? I mean, you should be out on him on cost, like where he's going right now is ridiculous. If you want to draft him as a late option, and he falls to the right spot, then sure. Why not? You can easily pair him with a guy you like a lot in Johan Johnson or Dalton Schultz or Dalton Concaid. Another guy that has upside-but-questions. So there's different routes you can go when it comes to drafting Fanon without reaching for Fanon. But I think to take him in basically round six, like that's nuts. Yeah, and I just, there's so many wide receivers I like in round seven and eight, basically, or maybe it's a quarterback there or something like that, that I'd rather just keep waiting. But all right, I just can't bring myself to draft him. My other one is about Kyron Williams. And I'm going to tell you about that when we come back from break. Before we go to break, though, if you watch our shows on your TV through YouTube, you watch YouTube on your TV, they're making it easier for you to interact with the show. I think from your phone. 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I want to talk about Kyron Williams here. I don't know what it is. I think for me, for me, it's on somebody mocked drafts. I'm happy to take Kyron Williams in the third round. But now I'm doing these real drafts. I'm starting to feel like there's some downside there. In the last 11 games, the average 14.9 carries per game. The average 14.7 PPR fantasy points per game. And that was with him playing 63.4% of the snaps and Blake Horan playing 33% of the snaps. They split goal line carries perfectly evenly. They both had eight. Yeah, I mean, he doesn't-- he does play a lot on third down, but he never gets thrown to on third down. And again, those point totals, 14.7 PPR points per game, which is what Kyron averaged in his last 11. That would have made him RB14 per game in full PPR. He would have been better in non-PPR, basically the same, though, in half PPR. I don't know. I'm getting cold feet on him. I feel like those reports about it being more closer to a 50/50 split. He's been so solid and so consistent. But I think I'm moving him down to a fourth round pick. So this goes directly into one of mine, which I just kind of did this in a couple of drafts recently to try to get some different exposure, because I have too much of the same wide receivers in this range. But I feel so gross. Maybe I think the kids say I get the ick. Is that the term? I even know that one. Yeah, you get the-- Every time-- and it's not just Kyron. It's HN. It's Javante. It's Swift. It's Hall. Every time I take one of those high-end RB2s at the 3/4 turn over Zay, or Burton, or Loveland, or Teterua, I just like those wide receivers in Loveland. feel I get so much more energized and excited by my team when I draft those guys than when I draft one. I think my biggest takeaway is I don't want to draft the high-end RB toast. I want to draft the RB toast that are a little cheaper. I like it. I like the Judkins group. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I think it kind of blends into, I think what you're getting at is, you know, you had put in the notes at least about going to your RB, it's kind of why I gravitated toward going RB with the first and the first two picks if you're at the back and around one because exactly what you said, like, I'm perfectly fine if I have my first two receivers are Z-flowers and DJ Moore, you know, or Jalen Waddle or whoever the case may be, I tell Roman Mill and Garrett Wilson, you know, that whole group, like, and starting with Walker and Hampton. Like, I love that. Yeah. But here's my question, right? So, personally, I think I'm fine with Javante and Travis H and, you know, at that, I just ahead of Kyron Williams, personally. And that's the thing. It's like, he obviously has his preferences. I love the way you phrase it. Like, you get energized by those picks. And I think we've all done fantasy long enough to know that just because you got energized by that pick doesn't mean it was the right one, right? Like, last year, I remember hating my Tucker Craft pick in the Super Flex League. I was like, gosh, I can't believe I had to settle for Tucker Craft. That's one of my best picks. But yeah, I mean, there is that feeling of just like loving your team and for Heath, he's not going to love his team as much if he takes a high-end RB2 near the 3/4 turn over those wide receivers he just mentioned. For me, I'm not going to love it as much as if I take Kyron over those wide receivers that Heath just mentioned. But my issue is, and I think this ties into something that Dave wants to talk about, his draft takeaways, is like, if you only have, and Heath, you're talking about a hero RB build, if you only have one running back and you're picking late in a 12 team league through your first four picks, what's left for you at the end of round five in the beginning of round six? You might miss out on that big tier unless you like Marshawn Lloyd there because he'll probably be there. But, you know, Dave, am I hitting on something that you wanted to talk about with the drying up of the running back position late in round five? It's important for every drafter to know when they feel like that position is drying up. Let me throw some names at you. It is an example. Bucky Irving. David Montgomery. Quinchon Judkins. Jardarian Price. Basel Tutton. You can even throw, you can throw, I guess, Ramadres Stevenson into that group as well, maybe even Marshawn Lloyd. How many of those names give you the Yic? And if you get the Yic with most of those names, then you should absolutely go at least hear a R.B. If not, follow Jamie's lead and just wedge yourself into R.B.R.B. to begin your draft. Those are the running backs. They're ADP, most of them late round five. And that seems a little too early for running backs that could be trap backs, certainly low touchdown guys or, in the case of somebody like Montgomery, an older back who does have high touchdown potential, but really a big question about just how much work you'll get in the passing game and so on. And the more running backs that make you nervous, the more you should gravitate toward that position early on. And as I sit here, some of those names make me nervous. I don't think there's any question about it. But I think that there are enough names. I could probably give you the number at like 22, I don't know, maybe even 21 running backs that I don't get the X from and that I'd be happy to have in my starting lineup. And because of that, I'm okay trying to get two running backs with my first five picks, but by the time I get to round six, and buddy, after that, it's ugly, and it's really hard to find running backs that you feel really good about starting. Well, I think it also comes down to like where you're drafting in the round, in the first round or wherever your job position is because like we've done, and I don't know, in the exercise you guys have done in our pick by pick series of comparing your first time we did this in July, to the second time we just did it, and how very similar it was in terms around. So I actually write out or I list all the draft picks that we have a landing page for the entire thing. And so in just going through it, there was like so much similarity, despite the fact that we have a month worth of, month worth of change. Now, some obviously was dramatic, the packer situation, et cetera, stuff like that. But like, it's almost like you could see an ADP reflexist, like you know which running backs are going in the first 20 picks and kind of where they slot in, you know, whether it's HN over Walker or Walker over Hampton, or you know, however that goes, the back end of the first round being part of Zekron. And then you kind of see the way the flow goes, you know, so like Swift and Travis HN have moved up because of injuries to their backfields. We've seen, you know, the sort of shift a little bit in where Travis HN has gone and Ramondra has gone and they've gotten close together, you know, so it's just some of that movement. And I think that changes a little bit of what you're deciding on. But I think in the case of some of the guys you listed, Dave, like if you want to make sure you get those guys before getting to that next group, in some case you have to reach for them. And you're passing up some good wide receiver value because if you just don't want to be in that range of running backs and just kind of guaranteeing yourself, like you get to that round five spot, and it's like, okay, like we've started to discuss Ramondra in this range. Obviously, Martin Lloyd has moved into this range. Jonathan Brooks has climbed to this range, you know, and that might change now that Chubas back practice. But you kind of get the point, like there's been this push of, of runny backs and I wonder in the next week or so if we get clarity on the stealer situation or the commander situation or something of these, you know, the Vikings, like if there's an even more of a push coming for one or two guys that, you know, may thrust themselves into that range of runny backs or conversely push them down, you know, as we're seeing what Travis HN, for example, with his injury now that has changed a little bit. So, I think it's kind of dependent on, you know, what your build is where you are and kind of how you're willing to reach or not reach for those guys if you're comfortable enough, especially if a hero are be built, like once you get past, okay, now I love my receivers, I love my quarterback, I love my tight end, and I only started with, uh, Seikwang Barkley, but now I'm just throwing a lot of draft capital at one of the stealer's guys, one of the commander's guys, a Broncos guy, et cetera, and just kind of building out your team, though. Yeah, and I think the other thing to remember, I think true hero RB drafters would affirm this is like just because you pass on running back at the three, four turn, doesn't mean that you have to reach on a running back at the five, six turn, like you, you can just start a team with Joe Borough, and three insane wide receivers, one good running back, Sam Laporta tight end, and then draft or Kyle Pitts, if you like him more, and then when you get to the eight nine turn, there's seven eight turn, they're still going to be Jordan Mason and Blake Quorum and Bill and Chuba Hubbard a little later and he's draft draft Pollards probably not going to be there, it could be there at eight nine, so just at that point, though, he, because I think it's, it's great. I think if you're in a three receiver league, yeah, it's a lot better to do that. Unless you're in a two receiver league and you want to take a quarterback early or earlier, because like, I know for me, like I find myself in kind of this No Man's Land when I go here on RB and it's a two receiver league in a flex, so now I've got my two receivers, I got my flex, I got my tight end, I got my one running back, and now it's just this mess of all the quarterbacks are still kind of in that, you know, that big group of Borough through Caleb, you know, they're all still there, right? Somebody's the first two or three quarterbacks come off the board. And so like, what I find myself doing just because I don't want to pass up on town, I'll take a fourth receiver, even though I don't need one, because I don't want to just reach for Rico Dattle at that point, you know, I'll play it out another round and see if okay, I'm comfortable enough in PPR to go Kenneth Game Wolf after and then just kind of, you know, just keep back feeling it that way. So it's gets gross, but like, I don't want to pass up on Marvin Harrison to take Rico Dattle, even though he'd be my fourth receiver if that makes sense, you know, if somebody in that range. So I think that's where people kind of get in trouble a little bit to your point, like they're reaching for running backs is I filled my two receivers, I filled my flex, I filled my tie then, I could probably still wait on quarterback because there's still great players there. Now what do I do? And so it's that's the conundrum, I think that people find themselves in. And so what I do when I'm in that hero, or be conundrum is I just fires many shots as I can at the running back position from round eight on. And I admit to myself, okay, but it's not a date though, David's like round six, like that's that's kind of where you named a lot of players that you would have on your team. So if you want to say from round seven, we start firing on running back. My FFT FFT Open team in Joey's league was exactly where this happened. We didn't want to take a quarterback yet. We already had all those positions filled. And in round six, we just took Marvin Harrison, Jr. Right. To have one more upside wide receiver because we didn't like the running backs in that range. Right. And so what did you do starting in round seven? I don't remember. You probably will start to take more on. So I did the same approach in both of my FFT Open Drafts. And it I felt so bad for Lewis who I drive. And we I still like our team. We still have a good chance. But every time from that point on, like there would be a run of seven running backs drafted right before we picked at the next turn. And so our running backs didn't really come together in the same way they did in my other FFT Open League. But yeah, I mean, I it's you just take as many as you can. Hopefully. That's right. I'm going to show you your team, Heath. - Which one? - Which one? - Which one? Nope, that's not the right one. That's from last night I think. I'm gonna try to show you your team. It's from your FFT Open League, which you did go hero RB, but from the one spot. So you, sorry, takes me a second to do this. Here we go. All right, so you go and Gibbs, Pickens, Bowers at the two-three turn, Ibuka, Burden at the four-five turn. Jaden Daniels, Tony Pollard. So Tony Pollard, what round was that, round seven? - Seven, first pick around seven. - Okay, and then let me find the draft board here and I'll scroll down. - Which by the way is pretty close to his CBS ADP for Pollard. - But you didn't double up on running back there, like you could have gone Pollard, Korum, but instead you went Pollard, Quentin Johnston as your fourth receiver. And then you took Kyle Menongai, Zach Charbonnet, Isaiah Pichecco, before who's on IR, and Braylon Allen. - And McKaylin. - Yeah, McKaylin. But your running backs are Gibbs, Pollard, Menongai, Charbonnet, Pichecco, Braylon Allen. So yeah, I mean, look, remember it's not over on draft day. There's gonna be injuries. There's gonna be guys to pick up off the waiver wire. - If you told me I could do that every time. And in my rankings have the number one tight end and three of my top 20 wide receivers and a top five quarterback for me and Jaden Daniels. I'd be, I'm thrilled with my second running back options being Pollard, Menongai, Charbonnet, Braylon Allen. That's fantastic. And that's the point, right? You're just, you just need one of those guys for your lineup each week. And if you get lucky, and let's say Tony Pollard just has a season way better than we anticipate. Brian Dable just gets in the ball and a bunch of exciting ways in the end so being great, your team is gonna be way, way more competitive because of it, or even if it's Braylon Allen because Breeze Hall is something happens. He wins Powerball and Braylon Allen becomes the future back there. Any one of those things can help your lineup and that's the point. You're just gonna take as many shots at running back as you can. And in the fairly unlikely event that one of those running backs does not become your guy, Keith, you're gonna work on the waiver wire all year. You're not gonna be a passive fantasy manager and you'll find somebody off the waiver wire at some point to be your RB2. Hopefully Jamir Gibbs is a stud and the rest of your team, you drafted a bunch of studs, you should be fine. So this is the case for Hero RB where you avoid, I guess this is where we talk about dead zone, trap back, running backs. You avoid those guys and you just load up on a bunch of running backs where you're taking shots on. In Keith's case round seven plus, but I think you'd even do it round A plus. - Okay, but I think, yeah, I think everything, everything that we've talked about here with running back is pointing to the end of a tier, right? And to me, and you guys, we've done this, I know we've done this before, but it's worth repeating. To me, the end of the tier is mid to late round five. If Dave's, one of Dave's takeaways was round six, running back, skit, pretty yucky. And that tier consists of Quinchon Judkins, Cam Skataboo, Bucky Irving, and this is not in order of ADP. I'm just rattling off names. Judkins Skataboo, Irving, David Montgomery, Bazel Tutin, Jardarian Price. That's how I think drafters see it. I think Marshan Lloyd should be in that tier, not everybody does. I don't think ADP is gonna reflect that. But the name is-- - You have a Tesla Remondre. - Yeah, I mean, you guys think Remondre should be in that tier? - He should. - 100%. - Yeah, if you're putting Lloyd in that tier, then I think Remondre belongs there. - Right, but I don't know if Lloyd really should belong in that tier. I think that might just be an Adam thing. - I would say if you're putting Skataboo in that tier, I think Remondre belongs in that tier. - Yeah, it's very fair. - Well, that's fine. - Yeah, I mean, again, this is where I see ADP, like and based on yesterday's drafts on NFC, the 20-- - Well, I think that's-- - That's the point is find the guys who are in that tier for you that aren't being drafted in that tier. Like it could be Remondre, it could be Tony Pollard, it could be one of the Steelers if you really like them. Like there's gonna be, that's probably the 11 to 12 point tier. - But that's, okay, Remondre is not in that tier in terms of ADP. Remondre is after that. And Lloyd is probably after that. And the Steelers guys are after that. But my point is those guys, Juddkins, Skataboo, Tutton, Bucky, Montgomery, Price, ADP suggests that they might all be gone by pick 60, by the end of round five. - So, I mean-- - That's all right, I'm almost done. If you are picking 10th, 11th, or 12th, and you only have one running back through your first four picks, just be aware, you may not get any of those guys at the end of round five, beginning of round six. And then, then you have to decide. Is it a reach to take Remondre there? Is it a reach to take Lloyd there? Is it a reach to take Pollard or Doudal? Do I, you know, take two different positions and grab a great quarterback if he falls to me, grab LaPorta or pits or whatever? And then just take the Chorums and the Menon guys and the Masons of the World later. But I'm just, that's the most important takeaway for me in terms of ADP, is that there is a clear tier break, I think, at running back, that stops at the end of round five, even before that, according to average draft position, and you need to be aware of that if you're drafting late. - Well, here's the draft we did last night for St. Jude, so it was the-- it was me, Adam, Heath, and Thomas, and eight people who donated to St. Jude. So, this is, you know, mixing it with people that obviously don't do this for a living. So, round five was Quincheon Judgans to start the round, Judarian price, three picks later, Bucky Irving right after that, so that's 49, 52, 53. Montgomery, the second-to-last pick of the round at 59, then here's what happened in round six. Round six with the second pick of the round. I took Montgomery second, the last pick, and then the second pick, second-last pick, round five, second pick of round six. So Montgomery and Stevenson were back-to-back selections for me. 67th overall was March on Lloyd. 68th overall was Jonathan Brooks. And those were the only running backs in rounds five and six. So, to your point, Adam, like there is kind of a line, you know, or a tear break after the Montgomery Tutton, you know, price group Tutton went, I think a little early in his draft, he went in late round four. So, you know, it kind of speaks to what you're talking about here, and then round seven started Pollard and Henderson and Jalen Warren, and so this really kind of get into that problem, like Heath was talking about of, are you reaching for running backs just because you feel like you need to fill the position, or do you really love these guys? And this was a two running back, two receiver, one flex leak. - Yeah, right, so you have to ask yourself, am I okay with Rodriguez Stevenson as my RB2? Am I okay with March on Lloyd or Jonathan Brooks or any of those guys, Pollard, Steelers guys as my RB2? If you are, then fine. If you're not, then if you're watching the show, take a look at what team 12 did. Team 12 went Kenneth Walker, Omari and Hampton, Josh Allen, Garrett Wilson, Tyler Warren, didn't take a third running back until like round eight, which was Jordan Mason. But if you look at team 12 that went Walker and Hampton to start, if he had gone Walker and Jefferson, then he may not have felt as good about his team because Montgomery got picked by Jamie at the 11th pick of round five. By the time we get to pick 60, all of those running backs in that tier are gone. So he would have had to take Stevenson. - The only thing I wanna make sure that people here is you're coming really close to framing this as if we see a big difference between all the running backs that are gonna be gone by the end of round five and the running backs that are left. - Yeah. - I don't, I know there's some guys that Jamie thinks that go later that should be in that tier. I'm not sure about Dave, but you, it's not that we're saying that your only chance to have a good RB two is gonna be gone before the five six turn. - Right. - You need to decide by looking at which guys are going to be gone if you think or those are the only guys that's the way the draft's acting like. It doesn't necessarily mean it's true. - Good point. - Well said. - Exactly the point. You've got to figure out which running backs start to give you the heck. - All right, so lessons learned so far. For me, I'm out, I'm out on Harold Bannon. I'm having trouble drafting Kyron Williams in round three. Jamie, don't be afraid to start. Running back, running back. Dave, running back is sketchy by round six. Heath prefers hero RB and he feels no joy when he drafts a running back over Zae Flowers, McMillan, Birdon, and Colson Lovelin at the three, four turn. That means we have two lessons left to give. One from Jamie, one from Dave. And we will do that when we come back on fantasy football today. Jamie's got a lesson about quarterbacks. Dave has won about tight ends. Jamie go. - Yeah, if you want to put the draft up again, Thomas, that we did last night, it's just kind of reflective, I think of where everybody's at with quarterbacks, which is great, is that everybody's waiting. And so it's the gamble of when do you want to dip your toe in that pool, especially when you want to take Josh Allen. So if you look at it from this draft, Josh Allen went in round three. My right Thomas was around three. - Yeah, yeah. - Thomas, Josh Allen went in round three. Lamar, Jackson, round four. Drake, May, round five. It's not we're seeing like a run on quarterbacks once the first guy comes off the board. And when you read our pick by pick series, I had the seventh pick. I took Josh Allen around four. And I was like, okay, at least we'll start to see the couple guys come off the board. And it was like, I should have known who I was drafting with and another lesson learned as no here drafting with. But it was everybody continued to wait and wait and wait. And it's just something you have to be prepared for is that you're going to get great value at that position later than you probably expected ever before. So don't panic when you see some of the first quarterbacks come off the board. There's still going to be amazing guys later. Jared Goff is going to be great. he's gonna go late, Brock Purdy. Matthew Stafford, Kyler Murray, Jordan Love. If you still like Patrick Mahomes, they'll be there late. Like all these guys still have the opportunity to be really successful fantasy quarterback so you don't have to reach for one earlier. That includes the top guys. So still don't like the fact that Josh now is going around too. Detroit opens the season with New Orleans, which should have one of the worst secondaries in football. At Buffalo, that should be a shootout. The Jets, they'll destroy. At Carolina, at Arizona, might have the worst secondary in the NFL. So Detroit is a team that I've highlighted as having a very favorable early season schedule. We'll even talk about it for months. They'd have a very favorable schedule just to begin with. All right. Just prepare yourself, Adam, because I tweeted about it today. Prepare for Jared Goff to be ranked ahead of Drake May in less than a week. Wow. Overall. We've been in your rankings or in a week one. Week one rankings come out in like five days. Oh, yeah, yeah. Right, right, right. No, I'm with you on that. I thought you were saying that you were going to take Drake May over, or Goff over May in season rankings. I know the rankings. I'm going to flip and all that season long stuff. We're not going to be talking about anymore. We're going to be looking at the rankings. And it's going to be Jared Goff over Drake May. Yeah. Goff Scott, really, that schedule that you talked about, Adam, it's really there. Sharp football analysis has Detroit with the number one most favorable schedule. There's a five point per game difference in Jared Goff's averages in Detroit, when he's indoors versus outdoors. Six outdoor games we talked about that. Two of them come in week 17 and 18. There's really just a tremendous path for Goff to have a monster year. Yeah. He's not allowed. He is the quarterback to wait for. If you're going to wait on quarterback and everybody is saying to do that, he's the guy you need to wait for. Because he's the one that should be able to easily outperform ADP. I want to give, I think we all know that from a six point per passings touchdown standpoint. But let me just look at Jared Goff and where he's finished in four point per passing touchdown leagues in the last four seasons. OK, so 2022, he was 14th per game, 2023, 14th per game, 2024, 7th per game, 2025, 11th per game, 14, 14, 7, and 11 per game for Jared Goff in four point per passing touchdown leagues compared to 13, 12, 8th, and 9th per game in six point per passing touchdown leagues. He's definitely better in six, but he throws for so many yards. That's a huge stat in four point leagues that he's still pretty good there. Maybe the worst defense he's had since his first year there. Agreed. And we're, oh, the second half of 2023 was pretty awful. Yeah, and it's bad. The four, they're four lions being taken with top 75 picks in fantasy and two in round one. And they can all catch. Yeah. And listen, for whatever it's worth, Montgomery's gone Pateco's hurt, I don't think they're going to give Gibbs 20 plus carries a game. And so extending the run game with throws to Gibbs, throws to Laporta, St. Brown catches a ton of short balls too. The numbers are going to add up for Jared Goff. What's, what are you learning about tight end, Dave? Call me sir mix a lot because I like tight ends and I cannot lie. I think that the greater late strategy that you've termed for us is actually like the great part is actually deeper than it's ever been. And the late part is still really good. You can make a top five case for eight tight ends this year. There's McBride and Bowers. Those are the two at the top of this. We love Loveland. Warren, Tucker Kraft, Sam Laporta. We love those guys too. You can still make that top five case for Isaiah likely. And I know Heath can make it for Kyle Pits. That's eight tight ends. It's three quarters of them going me out for Kyle Pits when I don't I don't like I say a like way just an obvious case when Kyle Pits finished top five last year. Come on. You know why Pits finished top five last year. We have Adam losing five main French. And I still have them as a top 10 tight ends. It's not and I like him better than Harold Fanon now. And then you look at the tight ends that you can find late. Kittle now qualifies, although his ADP is going to go up. Alice Goddard, Dalton, Kincaid, Mark Andrews, John Johnson, like those guys at least can be streamers to begin the year. I don't think that there's truly like a terrible way to go at tight end. You might want to choose one of those top two or three tight ends. But if you don't get them because someone else gets them before you do, it's really not the end of the world. You can still get a good value at a top five upside tight end, even going into around seven, around eight. And if you even whiff on them, maybe you just like you want to load up on running backs or you take a quarter back at a steel value. You can still find one that you'll like later on. Really, I think this is the year he-- I think this is the year where we can look at tight end and say, yeah, it's easy to draft them. And that's a lot of them. There's a lot of them. And the league is gravitating toward the position. A lot of teams are going to see them in 12 tight ends sets. And they're looking for tight ends that are athletic and match up problems. It's the whole basis of why Browers and McBride have been good for as few years as they've been. Upland and Warren should be able to take a step forward. All right, so hold on. Before you praise everyone, now, who do you avoid? Fanon is the one that makes the most sense to avoid. And I still have him as a top 10 tight end. Kelsey is the other one that I'm avoiding. Jamie, who do you avoid a tight end? The only one really is Fanon. Heath. This is my-- you know, I always keep my spreadsheet. So this is by far my most concentrated position. I have five Sam LaPorta teams, three Kyle Pitts teams, two Bowers teams, two Loveland teams. Zero McBrides. Zero McBrides. Because you have some dynasty McBrides. You're like Loveland better than McBride. I do. I know that wasn't a shot at me, but yes, I know I traded you McBride in dynasty. Whoops. Oh, it wasn't even thinking. It wasn't a shot at you. That was a good trade. I think I got both Trey McBride and Drake May for Malik Neighbors. There were other picks. There were other-- it was not just that. I made a terrible trade myself to get rid of Drake May. And you made a terrible trade yourself to get rid of Malik Neighbors. That's not entirely false. [LAUGHS] All right, some more news items for you here. And just another reminder about CBS Sports Network. If you can't get enough FFT every week for the rest of the season, we're going to be on CBS Sports Network Tuesday and Thursday at noon eastern Tuesday, waiver wire, Thursday rankings. This Thursday will be more draft prep. But CBS Sports Network, watch us on TV. And then those end up on YouTube as well. YouTube.com/FantasyFootballToday. At Pittsburgh Cornerback, Joey Porter may not play early in the season. He's in a contract dispute. He also had an injury. But he seems pretty upset about his contract. He gets Atlanta and New England and Cincinnati in the first three weeks. So the Steelers have some tough wide receivers coming their way. Isaiah Patechekos on IR with back-and-need issues. And I look, as much as I love Jameer Gibbs, I do like running backs that have clear handcuffs. I don't know that we have that here. So Jamie, if you draft Jameer Gibbs, do you take another Lions running back? No. I think it's kind of a worse version of the 49ers. Like, we've got to see this play itself out and who's going to eventually be number 2 on the Depth Chart. I think the one thing that you could do, though, is, like, if you have an IR, so you drafted Zach Charbonnet, you're drafted Jordan Tyson. Maybe you drafted Isaiah Patechekos. You have an IR spot. Once your waivers run, if you want to wait until week one, or we get a little bit more clarity on who the number 2 guy's going to be, then you could just put that player on the end of your bench, put that running back on the end of your bench. It doesn't have to be a Lions running back. Could be anybody. But that's a team you want to keep in mind. You had the chance to do the funniest thing ever there, Adam. You came so close to doing it. You came so close. You said, I like to have a running back that has a clear handcuffs. Should we-- all you had to do was finish it with. Should we move to mere Gibbs below B. John Robinson since Isaiah Patechekos on IR? It would have fit perfect with your auction comment. Would have been great. Jacob, yeah, no. Jacob Sailors is maybe the next in line there in Detroit. I did draft Patecheko in the lead yesterday. We'll obviously put him right on IR and pick someone else up. But I think, you know, let's say he's only misses four games. And Jamir Gibbs doesn't get hurt in the first month of the season. Then you still may have his handcuffs. He's clearly the most proven guy on the team after Gibbs. Keenan Allen is going to play in week one. Jamar Chase has a hyper-extended knee. T Higgins has a bruised heel, but both are expected to be ready for week one. Saints running back Kendrick Miller has a minor injury, but he's going to be fine. Tampa Bay GM, Jason Light said, rookie wide receiver Ted Hirst will play a role this season. We don't know what that means. Remember Rebecca Buca and Jalen McMillan have both been dealing with injuries. Jacksonville Guard Patrick McCarrie is on IR. And their offensive line might be a liability. And they have Cleveland Denver, New England, Cincinnati, Philadelphia, and Houston in their first six games. No one seems scared. Chuba Hubbard practice. That's great news. Jonathan Brooks. I think Dave, you said he worked off to the side yesterday, Jonathan Brooks. Ashen Gentry worked off to the side. Okay, I thought before we went out. Brooks might have too. I Brooks did work off to the side. Okay, thank you. I think it was deemed soreness. Okay. Houston right tackle. Braden Smith is on IR. So that's not a good offensive line. That's bad. Does that matter for Nico Collins? Now, it could end up mattering for everybody in Houston. I, it's one of the reasons that the gap between what David Montgomery has been running behind and will be running behind continues to grow. And that's one of the reasons I wouldn't put him in that tier of running backs in round five. Well, when you say, now listen, you, you, not all over me for not making the Gibbs thing. When you say the gap that David Montgomery is running through and then you say continues to grow, it's a little confusing there 'cause the actual gap is shrinking in terms of what he's running through. But the gap between what he used to be running through, I mean, now what he is running through, that is growing. - That's what I said. - Yeah, I know. But everyone's confused now, which is my fault. - They were, they weren't. (laughs) - Green Bay wide receiver, Saviah Williams, on IR with a high ankle sprain. And some other players who did not practice on Tuesday, Ty Johnson, he's been out for a while, Bill's third down back. Might be ready for week one, might not be. Khalil Shakir, Karnel Tate, I don't think those are serious. Alvin Camera did not practice. - I don't know if he mentioned this yesterday or not, but Kalmananga is apparently not. - Oh, I missed that. - He's week to week. - Yeah. - He's week to week. - Week to week. - Yeah, I mean. - So when you were talking about like Kyron, I put the Andre Swift ahead of Kyron. - What if Mananga is back in week two? - I mean, he might, but you know, Swift had a great camp. They might have to get a little bit of a ramp up period for Mananga, it's not like Swift is not a bad offense. So, you know, that factor's into it. Like we're talking about two good players on two great offenses. So for me, it was just close to being with and I just made the switch. - I think it's a great point. - So Kyron, let's see if I have, Kyron averaged 14.7 points per game in those last 11 games. Let's see if I have what Swift averaged. It wasn't as good. Swift and his last 11 games averaged 13.9 points per game. I'm not exactly sure. He was on pace for only 230 carries. Whereas Kyron was on pace for 254 carries. And he had one more touchdown. They had about the same amount of catches. But you look at the split. I mean, it could easily be Swift better than Kyron. It wasn't like a huge difference. It was less than a fantasy point per game. Okay. All right, that's our news and notes. Tonight is our leftovers league draft in honor of our leftovers league draft. Mike Woolly gave us his top five leftovers. Pizza number one, low main number two, meatloaf three, ribs four, pulled pork five. Pizza, low main meatloaf ribs pork, top five leftovers. He's right on pizza. I don't know if he's right on anything else. The one thing I definitely think he's wrong about is ribs over pork, pulled pork, re-eats and is reusable in a variety of different ways. Sometimes I'll smoke a couple pork butts and just have four different pork meals. And ribs don't reheat very well unless you take a lot of time doing it and you pretty much just have ribs. - That's pretty good. I like that. Low main is an interesting choice. I never-- - I think he's got Chinese food in general. - Chinese food is the worst, Jamie. Like, you can't read it. - Because your whole rice. - Yeah, you read it. - Yeah, no. I mean, sesame chicken. - Sure fried rice is fantastic, read it. - Every, everything. - Okay, if you just do fried rice, that's fine. If you do rice and a meat, you have so much-- - Sure fried rice. - No, no, but like a meat dish, like sesame chicken and rice, they heat up at such different levels. - Imagine if you could just separate them, like what a world that would be. - Who would do that? It's insane. Sesame chicken, by the way, is my favorite Chinese food dish and it's horrible, reheated, horrible. - I missed you said it, but spaghetti being disrespected is absolutely correct. - I don't know if it's top five, I mean. All right, early season schedules. Let's take a look here. - There you go. Good job, Moonso. (laughs) - Take a look at the-- - All right, so a couple of DST's, the chargers start with the cardinals and raiders. - And by the way, dancer, gamer ex-question. No, it is not my leftover leagues. It's Adam ripping off the name that I used for the last three years. - It's worse than that. He changed the name of the league. It's the four of the people league. - I was forced to. - Because it was disrespectful to call our listeners leftovers that didn't get into the podcast league. - It was forced to, it was thrust upon me. I didn't want to change it. I'll change it back next year. Chargers DST has Arizona and Las Vegas to start. Raiders DST, sorry, Jaguars DST has the browns in week one. A lot of people are drafting them. Schedules tough after that, so you might drop them. But if you want a week one DST, the Jaguars. Schedules I like, I mean, I like Baltimore Schedule early. Colts in week one, whatever, then Saints at the Cowboys, Tennessee at Atlanta. Love Detroit. Talked about Green Bay after Minnesota in week one. It's pretty good. The Houston offense, I like it because there could be in some shootouts here, which is probably not the case 'cause it was Houston's defense, but Houston's got Buffalo, Cincinnati at the Colts and Dallas in their first four games. - I don't think that's favorable. It might lead to high scoring games, but those aren't pushover defenses. - But there are none of them are great. - None of the bungles should be a lot better though. - But none of them are great defenses and you do have great offenses there. - Have we reached the teams that play average defenses, portion of the segment? - This was not a defensive thing. This was an offensive thing. They play four very high scoring offenses from last year, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Colts and Cowboys. I think that's good. - It is good, but you're also talking about one of the best defenses on their side of the field that it's going to make things uncomfortable for the other team to score points. So I don't know if that's necessarily the way you want to go about it saying shootout. - Yeah, but-- - I also see three defenses with awesome interior defensive linemen that are going to make things really hard on that interior offensive line for Houston. - They'll tend to see in there too. They've got Jeffery Simmons. - But yeah, okay, fine. So you want to talk about Montgomery. But if you have Nico Collins, wouldn't you rather than be playing the bills, bangles, Colts and Cowboys, then the Titans, Jets, Dolphins and some other crappy offense? - I mean, I want Nico Collins. - You couldn't care less, you wouldn't, if we were previewing games that you wouldn't, you wouldn't think about GameScript and CJ Stroud have the throw. - I think, I would guess, and we can look, 'cause they probably play both these teams. I would guess the Texans will have a higher projected point total against the Dolphins and Titans than they do against the bills. - Okay. - I don't know if they play the Dolphins, maybe later in the year. - The chargers start with the Cardinals, Raiders, that's pretty good. I think it's kind of tough after that. Well, I don't know about Buffalo, Buffalo. What do you think, average defense for Buffalo? - Yeah. - Sure. - Middle of the pack. - Minnesota, I have them as not an amazing schedule overall, but they could get off to a good start. Which I think is-- - I agree. - I want to see Kyler get off to a good start, get some good vibes going. Green Bay, their secondary, apparently not very good, at Chicago, at Tampa Bay, Miami, at New Orleans. You've got some very favorable secondaries that minutes so-- - Yeah, beautiful. What's that? - That's beautiful. I think the thing for me at least, I always want to look for is really just early season schedule, because so many things change throughout the course of season, injuries, et cetera, both sides of the ball. But I mean, if you can get off to a good start because you like the schedule, and that's just something that you're deciding between. So-- - To tie breaker. - Yeah. But I wouldn't look at this or the whole picture of it. I would just look at the first four games. Yeah, I mean, I look at first four is kind of what I focused on, if I felt like it was good or bad immediately after that. I'll mention it, Giants, for example. Giants are at the Rams in week two, that sucks. But Dallas week ones, not a match-up to run-- - They'll be better. - They'll be better. But again, we're not running away from it. Dallas at the Rams, Tennessee, Arizona, at Washington, New Orleans. That's weeks three, three, six for the Giants. That's good. - That's good. - The Jets at Tennessee, Green Bay, At Detroit, at Chicago. That's a good start for the Jets. - Yes. - I love the Eagle schedule, Dave. I don't know how you feel about that. But obviously they get one-- - Anders from week one, right. - They get to Giants once. They get the Cowboys twice. Tennessee, Chicago, early in the season. - No, it's good. - Yeah, I like the Eagles. - Yeah. - All right, so who's got bad schedules and does this matter? I mentioned a Mecca Buka schedule yesterday. He faces some shut down corners if he plays week one. At Cincinnati, I don't know about Cleveland. They almost never used to move Denzel Ward around. They have a new defensive coordinator now, but Cleveland week two-- - The pressure's not gonna be as tough, so. - Absolutely. - Right. - Minnesota week three, that's a Mecca Buka start. This one is from Yahoo. I saw Yahoo tweet this, so Yahoo sports. I think that you could argue that Brian Thomas Jr. has the worst schedule of any player to start the season. I mean, it's Cleveland at Denver, New England, at Cincinnati, Philadelphia, Houston, then a buy, then the Colts, then the Ravens. - A lot of shut down corners. A lot of number one corners in that slate. - I'll read it again. Brian Thomas Jr. Cleveland at Denver, New England, at Cincinnati, Philadelphia, Houston, biweek, Colts, Ravens. - You know who it's really good for though. - Yeah. - Because that number one corner's gonna follow Brian Thomas Jr. down the field, then Parker Washington's gonna have all kinds of space underneath. - A lot of those teams do not have good number two corners. - That outside, the outside receivers for Tennessee might have it tough early. - That's 'cause Cam Ward's their quarterback. - I mean, the jets and the giants in weeks one and three shouldn't be bad, but Eagles, Ravens, Texans, Colts, Browns, Bangles, and then I have, I put a sort of, on this one with Terry McCloran at the Eagles tough at Dallas, probably not tough Seattle tough. Colts, if soft scardener covers him. That's three of the first four games. That's probably will later in the year they get the Eagles Rams, Bengals, Houston, Atlanta, Minnesota, Jacksonville, those teams have good cornerbacks. That's really late in the year. So you don't know, but that's McCloran. And then I think you look at the bills, right? You look at James Cook, you look at DJ Moore. I looked at Cook and how he did in tough matchups last year. And there were some good games. There were some bad games. But they start at Houston, Detroit, Detroit should, I think, could have a good run defense. They usually do in a Lee McNeil was healthy. Chargers, patriots at the Rams. That's a tough start. And I think, I don't know, I think you could make the case. I don't want to start. I don't want to have DJ Moore and Brian Thomas Jr. on my team. Just because, right? I mean, you could make that case. I think Kansas City's got some tough games or really some easy games early, too. But Denver, Colts, Miami Raiders, that's great. Then a buy. Then the Chargers, Seahawks and Broncos. And New England, I don't know how you feel if this matters for AJ Brown, but he starts with actually was thinking about the running backs for New England. Seattle, Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, to start the year. That's not easy. So those aren't like my most. I think my biggest takeaways are Brian Thomas Jr. maybe DJ Moore and James Cook. I'm not effect, that doesn't affect me much there. The Eagles having a good schedule. I think that I've been pretty low on the giants, but they've got a pretty good schedule to start the year. Detroit all year long. That's probably it. Good. And again, it's just, this is just tie breaker stuff. Yeah, maybe in the case of the Lions, you could say, all right, their schedule looks so good and so many indoor games, you can buy into them a little bit more. I don't know how much more you can buy into Gibbs and St. Brown. But for everybody else, like when you're comparing, Jordan Addison's ADP is criminal right now. It's like round 910. So compare him to, let's just see who's going around and maybe some of the Steelers running that Steelers receivers. Excuse me. You might favor Addison over the Steelers receivers. You might favor Addison over. I mean, Wondale Robinson is I or ADP. That's an easy one. Alec Pierce or Jordan Addison? Do give Addison the nod because favorable schedule early on, healthier than Alec Pierce. We're not even sure Alec Pierce is going to play week one. Those are the types of situations where I think early season schedule can be a tie breaker that can help you on draft day. Okay. Well, thanks for watching. Listen, everybody. Hope this was helpful stuff. We've got a couple more episodes before a huge, huge weekend of drafting. So we'll certainly help you out. All right. Let's talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football today. Paramount Podcasts 3 heroes level up at Tyrus and Gileus battle against the evil giant Deathhater to save the kingdom of Urea from so much peril. 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The Jaguars have a tough early schedule with multiple high-profile matchups, including games against Cleveland, New England, and Cincinnati.
  2. Top defensive teams like the Rams, Texans, Seahawks, Eagles, and Steelers are consistently ranked as strong, with the Rams and Broncos being absolute must-consider defenses for fantasy managers.
  3. Several drafters reflect on their real draft decisions, revealing a shift in strategy—some are avoiding high-end RB2s like Kyron Williams due to concerns about consistency and value, while others are loading up on running backs in later rounds to ensure depth and flexibility.

Summary:

The episode dives into fantasy football strategies, focusing on real draft experiences and early-season schedule analysis. Key takeaways include the Jaguars’ challenging opening slate and the identification of elite defensive teams—particularly the Rams, Broncos, and Steelers—as critical factors in player projections. A major discussion centers on running back drafting, where several analysts express caution about high-end RB2s like Kyron Williams, citing inconsistent point production and split carries.

Instead, they advocate for a deeper, more flexible approach by drafting multiple running backs across later rounds—especially in mid-to-late round five—to hedge against injuries or poor performance. The conversation also highlights the value of tight ends, noting that eight strong options exist, including Sam LaPorta, Kyle Pitts, and Kyle Pits, making the position more accessible than in previous years. Quarterbacks are seen as a value pick later in the draft, with Jared Goff highlighted as a high-potential, low-ADP quarterback due to Detroit’s favorable schedule and strong offensive environment.

Additionally, real draft lessons stress the importance of avoiding over-reliance on popular players like Harold Fanon or Kyron Williams, and instead prioritizing value, depth, and flexibility. The team also notes shifts in player availability due to injuries, such as Isaiah Patecheko and Patrick McCarrie, and emphasizes the need for waiver wire planning. Ultimately, the episode reinforces a balanced, thoughtful drafting strategy that accounts for both schedule dynamics and player health, ensuring long-term competitiveness without overcommitting to any single position.

FAQs

The Rams, Texans, Seahawks, Eagles, and Steelers are consistently ranked as having strong defenses, both up front and in the secondary. The Patriots, Denver, and Houston are also noted for solid defensive performances, especially in run defense and secondary coverage.

Running backs are considered a tiered position, with most high-upside options drafted by the end of round five. Drafters should start loading up on running backs in round six and beyond, especially in hero RB builds, to ensure they have multiple options for their lineup.

Kyron Williams has shown consistent production (14.7 PPR points per game over 11 games), but there are concerns about his role being limited to third-down carries and split goal-line work. His value may be lower than expected, and drafters are advised to wait until later rounds.

Top tight end options include Sam LaPorta, Kyle Pitts, Zay Flowers, and others. The position is growing in value with multiple players offering strong upside, making it easier to find quality options even in later rounds.

Managers should avoid drafting quarterbacks too early, as many top-tier quarterbacks like Jared Goff, Matthew Stafford, and Patrick Mahomes are expected to perform strongly later in the season due to favorable schedules and strong fantasy stats.

The end of round five marks a clear tier break in running back drafts, where most high-upside players (like Quincheon Judkins, Bucky Irving, David Montgomery) are typically drafted. After this point, options become more limited and less reliable.

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