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A lot of people think just because I'm driving the camp from from Barcelona headquarters on Monday, that didn't stop at my house to do this live show at six p.m. So hello, Freckle, fart 69. Hello, Chief Queef. Hello to Borg. I don't know what kind of name that is. What's up, boys? I'm here. I'm obviously here. I'm not driving to Ryan Linder. We did not record this on Sunday night. We just didn't do it. Did we did with Liam? No, we did not. I'm currently sobbing because all you guys are going away for camp. And this is the last great look at life I have. Well, the next time we see each other, we will have, we will have had football to talk about. Sorry, think about it. Think about it like that. You ever, you ever think about it glass half full empty? Which one's now glass half full glass half full is better. I just think about it in the E or way. Actually, I would say glass half empty is better. That means you've already drank half of it. You're not as thirsty anymore. Think about that. I think it's about right now. It's a lot of good sweet tea. So we're going to be doing the big 10 and ACC today. And listen, I'm wearing this shirt. We might as well just start with the big 10. My goal is to do these previews in about 30 minutes and then have you guys let you have a good Monday night because we got macaroni coming up. You know, I don't want to, I don't want to two and three hour podcast for you guys. So I want to keep it tight. But let's just start with the big 10 and we did this on the necessarily roughness for years. We just have these categories that we do. And we kind of preview the season for that conference via the categories, your champion, your runner up, your player of the year, your coach of the year, the disappointing team, the surprise team. The most underrated game and the breakout player of that conference that year. So we've got that. Those are the categories within these categories always crop up some conversations. So that's the way we attack it. That's the way I've always attacked it. And that's the way we're going to do it this year. So without further ado, we're going right into the big 10. The big 10 is the best conference in America right now. I don't think there's any doubt about that. Last three national champions with Oregon sitting on deck as a favorite to be the fourth and a row, fourth different team. Liam, I'll bring you in now. Before we even get started and dive into our categories, it's a conference that is very, very exciting at the top. What with Oregon, with Indiana, with Ohio State. Then I guess you, you know, your second tier of your, your Michigan's and your, your Washington's, your USC's, I'm not sure how far that tier goes towards the back. It gets to be a little not as great, but that's any, any big time conference. Just to your, your birds, I view of the big 10 coming in from, uh, from a million miles away. I think it's really exciting in that middle, that me and potatoes of the big 10. I want to see if Wisconsin can make a leap and Luke fickle could save his job. Obviously, want to say if Bob Chesney sparks you CLA in year one, what Penn State's able to do with their opportunistic schedule. Pat Fitzgerald, like, I'm just excited for his league as a whole top to bottom. Yeah, I do think this league being as big as it is really creates a, I think it's the poster child for schedule and in, in equality. Um, a couple of years ago, I don't, I'm not sure. Indiana was one of the very, very, very best teams two years ago when they first made the playoffs. They got by with an easy schedule because they played the bottom eight teams in the big 10. Now they turned out to be real when the, when Cinderella tried on that shoe. It fit absolutely perfectly. So they, but you can be fake and get one of these easy schedules and get to the playoff. And I'm wondering if that year's team this year's version of that team is Penn State. So we'll just rip off the band day right from the beginning. Liam, who's your champion in the big 10? I am taking a high estate. You're taking Ohio State. Wow. I am taking the Oregon ducks. Why are you taking Ohio State? I'm taking a high estate because I do believe that the early season, when it Texas gives them a great domino effect down the road, playing great, confident this, that I, I just trust them a lot right now. So I am a big schedule guy. And when I talk about team, I, I, I weigh their schedule out very, very heavily. The more I look at this, and I'm just open in this ass line right here just so I can see the schedule. The more I look at it and you just gave them a win over Texas immediately, but that's fine. So they open with ball state. Then they got at Texas. That's tough. Do you say they're going to win? Whatever it doesn't matter for this conversation anyway. Kent State, they open big 10 play Illinois at home. And then what happens over the next six or six or eight weeks might be the most, might be the toughest big 10 schedule I can remember in recent memory. They go at Iowa. We all know that's usually tricky Maryland at home at Indiana at USC. So in a, in a four game span there at Iowa at Indiana and at USC. They follow up that four game span with Oregon at home. They get Northwestern and they go back to Nebraska. They get Michigan. That is nasty. If they were to lose to Texas. And their margin of error for, for being a playoff team is dwindled down by about half. This is a tough schedule. Yeah, it is. But the best teams in the country are built to take on the best and to beat the best. I'll have them losing to Oregon. And yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah. I've got, I've got Oregon winning the big 10. I've got Oregon winning the national championship. You know, it's just a matter of in this NIL day and age when you can get guys to, guys who are going to be first and second round picks to come back to come back for whatever you're paying them and come back for one more go. I mean, Indiana pretty much outclass everybody just by being older. Now Oregon's going to be older than most teams and just flat out more talented than both teams. They're going to have the combo as my hair, Jill. Okay. I like Oregon to win the conference. I thought about Ohio State. I am going to ding him for the schedule. I'm going to ding him for how tough it is. You know, at Indiana is at USC's a wild car. Like, there's just so much. He's a quarterback who Julian saying didn't exactly play great against elite defenses last year. When the other defense got great. Now he's going to be facing that problem a lot this year. Anyway, I got to Oregon. You got Ohio State. Who's your runner up? I have Oregon. I have Oregon being Ohio State in the first matchup. Ohio State being them is second matchup. I have Oregon beating Indiana in the big 10 championship game. I have, I have these two teams. I believe were no, no, no. Okay. So two years ago, who played for the big 10 title two years ago? My brain don't work like that. Yeah, fine fine fine fine fine fine. I'm focused on 2026. Anyway, Indiana won the big 10 championship game with 13. Tim went over Ohio State last year. I got Indiana getting there again. I got Indiana with hosting Ohio State with the defense they bring back with Hoover. I think they're going to be good enough. They're a playoff team. I think they lose the big 10 championship game to Oregon. All right, player of the year in the big 10 Liam Blutman. I had a very difficult time deciding between Saiyan and Josh Hoover. And I kind of just land on Julian Saiyan because in my opinion, best team, yeah, winning the conference, give it to the quarterback defensively, brand finney. Well, I'm actually going to go with that principle too. I'm not going to overthink it. I've got Oregon winning the winning the big 10 championship. Therefore, I've got Dante Moore being the player of the year in the conference. He'll put up numbers. He just has to answer the same question, Saiyan has to answer. He has to be better against great competition. A year older with the, you know, the receivers now healthy again. I think he can do it. it. Dante Moore is the player that you're in the big 10 for me. Now we get interesting. Now we get into categories with some variants because at the top of these leagues, it feels awful chalky. But you know, I'm not going to sit here and pick North Western to beat Maryland in the big 10 championship game. But now you can get a little creative with your answers as we go a little further. Who's the coach of the year in the big 10 Liam? I feel like this one is chalk for both of us. Mine's not chalk. Well, I guess mine's a little chalky. We go ahead. Mine's Matt Campbell. I think Penn State is very legitimately a playoff contender. Schedule is super easy. First year in the big 10. I think they'll lay it up for Matt Campbell if he gets 9/10 wins. Yeah, that's chalky. I have Matt Campbell as well. That's the definition of chalk. But like if you come in after the bottom falls out last year and you bring Iowa State over with you, you bring the quarterback and you put the car back in the middle of the road and you get them to 10 wins and they're in a playoff conversation. It doesn't. It's not going to really matter if you do it because of your schedule. It's just going to matter that you do it. And if they're sitting there at 10 and 2 at the end of the season and very much in the playoff. Well, 10 and 2 there's in the playoff. If they're in a playoff, I don't see a world where it's not Matt Campbell. And I thought about it. You know, I thought, you know, could Fitzgerald get it going at Michigan State quick enough. I had a wild hair about, you know, wouldn't be awesome if Loxley did it at Maryland. I kind of got a little sleeper vibes on them. But ultimately, I just kept coming back to who's legitimately going to win the Big 10 coach of the year. And if Penn State goes 10 and 2, it's absolutely him. Now, now, now, now, now. Chesney, if Chesney were to engineer a quick turn around UCLA, that's somebody who could do it. If Lincoln Riley got them to the playoff, don't you think he might be able to win it? Like, there's a lot of options here. To me, the most obvious is Matt Campbell. Yeah, Matt rules guy definite chance to if Nebraska makes a leap. Yeah, if, but I'm ready to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I'm at Roland Nebraska. I'm about done. I'm about done considering them for turnaround potential. Cause where is it? What would what would it be based on? It's a great question, Brian Walker. I, not the guy that's going to have the answer for you. I'm not rolling Nebraska. Let me tell you about draftings. During this Big 10 X ACC special. Is that really the graphic we came up with? Big 10 X ACC special. That's what that's what we came. That's what I end. Who are the ad wizards who came up with this one? Yeah, I do want to end to be honest. I want an ampersand there. That's what I want. Why, why is there an X there? This is the yak. This is a 10 X multiplication. By the way, you just getting a week off, Liam. I'm still going to work. Are you kidding? I'm going to work through social and watch ball and prepare for ball. I don't even think you're allowed to go to office. I know that's an issue. I got to work from home all week. Alright, something big is coming on September 2nd. Draftings game day arrives with massive deals, exclusive deals. And an all day celebration built for sports fans. The countdown has begun. All roads lead to game day. The drafting sports happens now live in all 50 states. 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No, I'm going to ride with Matt Campbell, because I generally think that's where we're going to be at the end of the season. Although, you know, for as much as we say Penn State schedule is easy, I'm going to pull it up real quick. This is my pulling it up. That's how we used to pull things up, you know. Pull that up, Jamie. For as much as we say Penn State schedule is easy, let me just go through it here. Nobody, by the way, oh, like Wittingham, if Wittingham gets them to play off same principle applies, right? Yeah, most certainly. I just don't think they're going to fix his underwood. Yeah. So Penn State, that's Washington schedule. Where the fuck is Penn State? Knee glasses. No, I don't need glasses. I just want to read Penn State schedule. It's all my entire life is about reading Penn State schedule right now. They have taken over my life. Where the fuck are they? They're there. All right, first much as we say Penn State schedule is easy. Let's just go through it real quick. So they have Marshall at home, easy at Temple, easy Buffalo, and they go Wisconsin at home. So that's probably a four and a half start, right? They're at Northwestern to open that stadium. And then, and then they got USC at home at Michigan Purdue and at Washington. Like they can lose those three, right? USC at home at Michigan and at Washington. Yeah. It's just in the the realm of looking at Big Ten schedule. That's only easier. End of the spectrum by a wrong shot. I see only three tough games I got. Then they got Minnesota Rutgers at home in at Maryland. Yeah. Yeah. I can't talk myself out of Matt Campbell as much as I want to. And I don't want to put I don't want to put the Michigan logo on my on my graphic. All right. Who is the most disappointing team in the Big Ten this year? William Blutman. I'm making an executive decision. You go first. I'm going to say the USC Trojans. Everybody, everybody does this every August. Man, if that defense just comes along a little bit, they're going to be right there. This could be the year for Lincoln Riley. At what point are you just banging your head up against the wall? And it's never going to happen. Jay Maava looks great. Looks great. I get it. They've had quarterbacks and athletes that look great forever. And now they're picked in a very, very, very good conference. They're picked third, fourth, fifth. They're picked up in the mix. And what if they're not up in the mix? Well, what if what if this is a seven one team that's extremely extremely disappointing, but extremely believable. It is extraordinarily believable that they could not take a step forward on defense. And again, they play a tough schedule. I got USC is the most disappointing team who you got. If they won seven games as I have mutual parting of ways, I think so. I don't even know if it's mutual. I might it might just be a firing. Just now now firing like a seven at seven and five in a year. What is it? Year four year five. I think you're five and they're longer than you think. Yeah. I think it's year five. At seven and five in year five, that's not up to USC standards. That has to be an auto firing. That has to be automatic. If you're never going to do more than this when you had a chance to get your entire that's an entire rebuilding cycle. If you haven't rebuilt by year five, you're not going to do it. And that would be it. Yeah. And then the midst of his rebuild or whatever you want to call it in the end of one of the title. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. Especially especially if like Penn State were to go to play off this year like like like so many teams are just passing them on the rebuild. Real quick through their schedule. San Jose State Fresno State Louisiana. They start three and know at Rutgers or four know. And then listen, listen, man, listen, that six game stretch. Listen. I don't know how many teams have a six game stretch as hard as this. They're talking about USC here. They're home to Oregon. They're home to Washington the next week at Penn State at Wisconsin. Ohio State at home at Indiana. And then they finish at UCLA. Jesus like seven and five is on the table. Who's your most disappointing team in the big 10? You kind of alluded to it. And I'm picking them because so many people are expecting to step forward. You're just going to disappoint yourself. Nebraska. They're not taking a step forward. This is a again, a six or seven win team under Matt Roll. It doesn't matter. It's same old Nebraska. Yeah. Why do this dance again? Yeah. But how many people expect them to be more than that? I weigh too many people. I see on the Twitter. So we're talking about Nebraska win nine games. So, uh, most, uh, the biggest surprise team in the conference, uh, I'm going to hit you with the, I don't know, reverse. You go first. I, I went with the team. Those super young last year and I seemingly can't quit their head coach. I went with Washington because I do think that there's a realm where they could get to 10 wins. So I think it's going to happen. Probably not, but when I'm looking at the landscape of the big 10, I can't find a true surprise. Yeah, I can't either, but I do have one that I listed here. Again, um, my, my nipples are a little erect at the process of prospect of Maryland possibly being a little something this year. I like to quarterback a lot. Um, but I didn't go with them. I went this kind of self-defeating, but I went with the team that plays my team this year. You know, with all the upheaval and the coaching in the big 10 and, you know, Fitzgerald, you got all these new guys. You got Matt Campbell at Penn State, something about just steady as she goes, PJ Fleck, you know, PJ Fleck, like the quarterback. who was pretty good last year, he's gonna be a sophomore. They had some transfer departures, but they've backfilled a little bit. I like Minnesota to sneak up and you look at the end of the year and you're like, wait a second, Minnesota went 93. What the hell? That's what I feel about Minnesota. I think Minnesota could be the surprise team in the big 10 this year. - All right, we're on the opposite end to the spectrum with Minnesota. - Last show I said, I think they'll bomb out six wins. - I hope so. I hope so, 'cause that would mean that we're gonna be in-- - I mean, you got one. That's Camario Taylor's, that's Camario Taylor's coming out party. The most underrated game of the season in the big 10, what you got, Liam Blutman? - I tried not to pick a game that we played in, but I had got through like 20, 25, 30 games and consistently it was UCLA at Cal, week one, Saturday night, where you won't be able to watch. - Correct, 'cause I'm a prisoner of the moment with your show that I host. The winner of UCLA Cal is building off and starting their new era, such a great clip and could build that momentum going forward that that's the no-brainer option. - So I've got, there's a world where at the end of the season, Oregon is playing to finish off winning, or getting to the conference title game. And like standing in their way and also trying to get in that game is Washington. Like there's a world where like Washington goes into the last game of season, they're like nine and one. There's a world where the quarterback who was held hostage there, there's now happy again. He is a game changer at quarterback. You're gonna have so many of these, so many of these games in the big 10, whether they're home or on the road are gonna be like minus two and a half, minus one and a half, like they're all, there gonna be a lot of toss ups in the big 10. And Washington has a very good quarterback, somebody who could emerge as a top five, top 10 quarterback in the country. I think Oregon at Washington at the end of the year because Oregon under Dan landing historically, if they're gonna have trouble in a game, like Washington has given him fits a couple of times. And I just, I know that was a different Washington, I know that, but it's still Washington, it's still Oregon. I got Oregon and Washington at the end of the year as kind of a low key game, because there's so many, but you wanna talk about. When the SEC was really rolling, and I mean really rolling, and you had one week Alabama at LSU, or next week LSU at Florida, the next week Florida at Georgia, the next week Georgia at Auburn. Like you had all these things, now in the big 10. You got Indiana, you got Oregon, you got Ohio State, and then you got the next group, Michigan, and Penn, you got all these mixers, USC, like they're all kinda playing each other this year. This is a big game in the big 10 every week, and it hasn't felt like that in recent years. - That's why I had such trouble going through, 'cause every game to me felt big. Like Oregon, Washington, to me, maybe it's just, 'cause I'm a West Coast guy. That is always a big time. I'm watching every second of that game, so I think we defer in there, and I'm now upset. Why didn't we do like predicting a big upset for a category should on that? Let's do it. - All right, well, we gotta think. - I did think of biggest upset. - Okay. - You wanna just on the fly, do biggest upset here? - I want you to go first. - Well, how am I gonna do it on the fly? - You said you didn't think of it. - Well, you mean that we both gotta do a little thinking. - All right, let me just work. Let me work with you. - Yeah, we're both gonna work through it right now on the fly. This is how the cookies get made. - Can I just do it? Can I just fucking do it? I'm gonna rip the band-aid, 'cause I wanted to get them in a category. - Give me Marilyn beatin' Penn State at home at the end of the season. - Okay. - Give me, call my shot, call my shot. Give me Marilyn's gonna get somebody. Imagine Penn State coming in nine and two, going into college park. And then my answer to the next category just rages up, rushes for 150 yards, throws for 300. I, give me Marilyn over Penn State. Do I believe in it? No, but you just throw this category on me. Who's your biggest upset? - All right, for no reason at all, give me Michigan, stay over Michigan. - Yes, now we're fucking talkin'. - I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't have a reason for it. - How we gotta crack things in place? - I don't have a reason or anything. That was just, I felt it in my plum stuff. - Yeah, and listen, I just shed all over my mat Campbell for Coach of the Year 'cause if he goes into Marilyn and loses, that's over. But whatever, whatever. All right, breakout player of the season in the Big Ten. I've already said him a couple times. Malik Washington at Marilyn. This guy's a dude, man. I don't know, was it, was it Mestemaker on your interview where he's like the guys that were great were Kamario Taylor and Malik Washington? - Yeah, they're, they're a quarterback. There's, listen, I know there's a top 10 hierarchy of teams and players and like Indiana's great, Ohio State's great, but there are great quarterbacks hidden throughout this sport right now. One's in college, part Marilyn, he's about to bust out. One's in start one of the cities about to bust out. I think Malik Washington has a chance at the end of the season to be one of those true great players in the Big Ten. That's my pick for breakout player of this conference. I didn't want to do quarterbacks, but he is the guy that is like so primed to have a strangle hold on the position going into 2027. When you asked, can I ask you something? - Yeah, are you stifling something right now? Do you have a breakout player for every team? - I have a player to wash from every team, yes. - Who's your breakout player in the conference? - Yeah, so when you were watching USC last year, it was Jacobi Lane making big play after Big Play. The, the, you also had, in McKay Levin, of course, you also had Tenu Kind show out of nowhere. I think it was the Illinois game. He went crazy and established. Tenu Kinds is unbelievable. So I had him as the offensive breakout player. He and I had Dylan Robinson corner from Washington as defensive breakout. - Who's your breakout player candidate from Nebraska? - I had freshman running back Jamal Rule. - Who's your breakout player from Rutgers? - From Rutgers? I hit Big last year with KJ Duff this year. I went dice year Carter. I believe a freshman wide receiver. - Who's your breakout player from Michigan? - Andrew Spray, great tackle. 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You'll receive an additional 10% off and free overnight shipping on your first order. Visit bluechiu.com for more details and important safety information. We thank Blue Chiu for sponsoring the pod in the bedroom. All right, to recap. In the big 10, my champion is Oregon, Liam Blutman's champion is Ohio State. My runner up is Indiana. Liam Blutman's runner up is Oregon. My player of the year is Dante Moore. Liam Blutman's is Julian Sain. Is that right? Yeah. My coach of the year is Matt Campbell. His coach of the year is Matt Campbell. Actually, I just ripped the bandaid off and picked Locksley 'cause I'm in the locker room. You wanna do it, so just do it. I do, fuck it, fuck it. Matt Campbell's so boring, man. Mike Locksley from Maryland. I'm calling my fucking shot. I like Maryland this year. My disappointing team was USC. His disappointing team is Nebraska. My surprise team is Minnesota. His surprise team is what was it? Washington boring. Most underrated game Washington, Oregon. For me, for him, it's UCLA Cal. My breakout player is Malik Washington. He has 15 breakout players and his main one was who? The New Kinds. The New Kinds from USC. All right, let's go to the ACC. That's the big 10. Let's go to the ACC and I gotta write down 'cause we're gonna have to do an upset, right? Yeah. Let's figure that out on the fly. So as much as you wanna get on here and go anti-chalk, in this league right now, it's not possible. 'Cause what happened last year was a miracle upon miracles where a seven and five team won the conference when the almost national champion didn't win the conference. That's just not gonna happen again. And I feel like Miami is as far ahead of their conference as we've seen a team be as far ahead of their conference in a long time. Do you agree with that? Yeah. We felt that way last year about Clemson is the massive sling. We did on this whole thing. We did. We did. We did. All right. My champion in the ACC is Miami. Who's your champion? Miami. Now there's just no, I mean, I don't understand. There's just no way around it. Not only, not only are they the best team, but like the schedule, it's just what's there to stop them. I don't get what's there to stop. Like the row game in SMU last year doesn't really exist this year. My runner up is Louisville. Louisville. And this is a team that I, if they're 3 and 0 on September 19th, if they're 3 and 0 on September 19th, they will have beaten Ole Miss and they would have beaten SMU. I think they're, that's the resume. They're like, playoff lock is a lot to say in September but playoff lock. Yeah, it'd be as close to a playoff lock as a non true college football power can be player of the year in the ACC. I'm staying with my chalk here at the top. Darian Menta, which is crazy. He might not be the best player on his team. Might not be the second best player on his team because like Mark Fletcher and Malachai Tony are both going to be great, but ultimately the quarterback usually wins these awards. I'm going to go with quarterback Darian Menta from Miami. Who you got? Yeah, quarterback. He award. So it's boring. I went C.J. Bailey and C. State though, if NC State's going to win eight, nine games, C.J. Bailey's going to have a massive year. Another guy like Malik Washington who just needs more eyes on him. Such a peer thrower. The footballer Sharon one leg was absolutely unbelievable. I forget again. So whoever C.J. Bailey, my coach of the year is James Franklin, Virginia tech. It's a program that desperately needed to be woken up. I think it is awake. I don't know how many games are going to win this year, but I do feel like he will be the coach of the year at the end as if he's sitting there at nine and three, maybe even eight and four. I had several, several, you'll see in surprise team later as I pick three teams, but I had several coaches here that I thought about. Who's your coach of the year? I need to find their win total. I went with Cal's Tosh Lupoi. I think, I think Cal could still carve out a pretty good season regardless of their week one game against UCLA. If you look at Cal's schedule, very, very manageable, and they have the best quarterback in the conference. Well, I mean, that's he's good. I think he's the best quarterback and called triple going in. That's fine. You you may think that I still think men's is probably the best quarterback in the conference, but hey, that's why that's why you're here. We can have differences of opinion. Also, you're fired. Um, okay, bud. Who's the, uh, who's the disappointing team in the ACC? You go first. I'm going with Clemson. I'm seeing people buy back in on Clemson, and I don't understand that this is a team that severely underperformed last year and lost a lot of talent to the NFL. They had the guys last year. They just couldn't put anything together. Now we don't know who the quarterback. We don't know what we're getting from the Clemson quarterbacking him. So I'm going with Clemson. I'm taking a swing here. Give me the SMU Mustangs. I feel like everybody's got them up there with Miami and Louisville. They of course play Louisville in week three. Can I paint you a picture real quick? Can I paint you a picture of an SMU team who comes out of September 19th, one and two, one and two in the league? Because who opened the season going down to Hall of Hassey last year? Do you remember? Yeah. Hard to, hard to forget the events that transpired on that sloppy football field. Well, disgrace. You give Mike Norville and tire off season, maybe to rally the truth, to get everybody going, they can do funky things on that field before the grind of a season catches up to them. They did it last year. Now you've got Florida State SMU in week one. They got UC Davis and they're at Louisville in week three. If they're 0 and 2 in the ACC before the game before the end of September, that's a problem. That's a big problem. They got Boston College at home. They got Virginia home, Caled home. They're at Syracuse. They're at Notre Dame. They're at Stanford. They got Virginia Tech, Wake Forest. Like what's disappointing to SMU, seven and five is massively disappointing. Is it not eight and four is disappointing? I think that's the path their own. I'm not guaranteeing they're starting one and two, but Kevin Jennings is a good college quarterback, but they need a lot of transfers to hit for this thing to go in the right direction. And I just, I think it's volatile and I think that early season schedule, especially the game at Louisville. I think they're going to lose that game and that could harm the rest of the season. I'm taking a shot here because their roster is better than most in the ACC, but SMU is my disappointing team. Who's yours? I had Glumson. Oh, yeah, I forgot. I forgot you went first on that one. The surprise team in the ACC. Who you got? I have more of a wild card. You almost hinted at them on the last show. Syracuse won 10 games two years ago and won what three last year. They had no healthy quarterback last year. If Angela is healthy, why can't Syracuse this rubbed and maybe beat SMU on Halloween? Why can't they be more than they were last year by significant margin? I wrote two teams down before I crossed them off for surprise team. I wrote Cal down and I crossed them off. I don't know why I just figured you'd be big on Cal. I kind of thought this would be your surprise team. Then I wrote down Syracuse. I crossed them off. I don't think there was a bigger gap between the offense with Angelia quarterback and then the backup at any team in the country. As soon as he went out, as soon as he got hurt, they went straight down. I know Glumson has had a bad year. But early in the season, they walked into Glumson's South Carolina and just dropped their nuts all over that team. You still got to go on the road and do it. Even though Glumson was disappointing, Syracuse looked like they had a little something to them. Angelia is hurt. It all goes out the window. But the team I ended up picking here, the pit panthers. I like quarterback. I like how was it Mason Heintzel? I don't like saying that. Mason Heintzel. That's a needs a better name. Anyway, Mason Heintzel, six and one in his starts last year, they need to hit on a couple of transfers to schedules pretty friendly. I got the pit panthers as the surprise team in the ACC. But I did scratch off Syracuse and I scratched off Cal because I thought about them both to death. But really, past like the top three, isn't everybody eligible to be the surprise team in the ACC? Yeah. And every ACC schedule you look at looks pretty manageable and pretty good. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. Speaking of manageable and delicious, you weren't, but I will reach this. I'm going on a road trip tomorrow. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to stop and get Reese's wherever I shop. Whenever I stop to get a little quick bite to eat, my road trip snack will be a Reese's, maybe a little beef jerky and Reese's good combination. I like on the movie theater. Reese's with popcorn. Hello, I like it. Reese's is the official candy partner of basketball sports. I don't have to tell you how good Reese's is. Although I do have to say salespeople, does anybody integrate a Reese's betterness? This looks good. I got the entire college football set here and then Reese is just seamlessly fitting in right there. Looks very good. I love the old school peanut butter cup. I know they got the new stuff, the PB and J, all that stuff. They've got great candies all throughout the spectrum of their candies. Give me the old school peanut butter cup. Reese is the official candy partner of basketball sports. Go get Reese's wherever you shop. All right, a couple more categories in the ACC. Then we'll do a couple of voicemails. We'll bring on Greg McElroy and that'll be our show for today. Thank you to BLs above penis 92. Thank you, BLs above penis for being here. And Blutman sucks 38. Wow. I don't know why you're here, but that was marquee. That's it. That's what's a single site. That's his hinge profile. Blutman sucks. It's a promise of the ladies. Um, um, did you ever, okay, you never talked to him about date and vandal white, right? Mm hmm. Okay. All right. Here we go. Surprise team was a pit for me and who for you? Syracuse wild card. Yeah. And most underrated game. Why did I write that down? I don't know why I wrote that one down. Go ahead. You do your most underrated game in the ACC this year. I wrote down SMU at Louisville. That's like the, it's like, that second bunch of things like the second biggest. That's a gigantic game. Why don't I write that now? Uh, most underrated game in the ACC go. This would have been such a big game. Most years and these two programs aren't what they have been in the past. Clemson at Florida State on Halloween. I made the call last year. The Billy Napier gets fired after the Mississippi State game, right? And it happened making the call this year. This is the game where they fire Mike Norville after Clemson beats Florida State on Halloween until I see this is the last game he coaches. My, uh, most underrated big game. I'm going to the end of the year. Let's get this rivalry kicked back up again, man. Virginia Tech at Virginia with James Franklin there. They're going to improve a lot. Virginia, one of the most disrespected teams in the country as far as I'm concerned. They played in the conference championship game last year. They won 11 games. People out like they're not in the top 25. They're nowhere to be found. Nobody thinks they're going to be good. Both Pervilla and then Eli hosting like they're going to have a quarterback. They played well with these transfer quarterbacks. They always find receivers. I don't know how they, I don't know how Virginia finds receivers, but they always have a stable of receivers. Virginia is a disrespected program. Virginia Tech's trying to get back on the map. Give me that for most underrated game, big game in the conference this year. And lastly in the ACC, the breakout player of the year, I'm going to, I'm going to make history here. I believe, and I'm not, we'll have to go back. This might be the third year in a row. I picked this guy for breakout player in the conference. But Liam mentioned him earlier, but God damn it. CJ Bailey breakouts got to come sooner or later, right? He's been pretty good, but so much talent is in there. He ought to be dominating the sport. He ought to be big time, but he just hasn't gotten there yet i'm banking on c_j_ baili to finally break out be that star player in C state needs this year. Third year in a row, I'm picking him for my breakout player the year. Liam Blum, and who's your breakout player? I went with safety, Josh Gurriye. What? Why? And I got Jaylen Cooper-Wider, so you were at SMU for the offensive side. Who's your breakout player for Duke? Jeremy Haysley, Ty Dent. Who's your breakout player for Florida State? Man trail to see your edge rusher, but he's pretty good last year. Who's your breakout player for Boston College? This one's tough. Six foot seven from Senegal. He was in the NFL Academy. He just started playing football a few years ago. Popeye Abdul-Ele-Sai, offensive tackle. That's not a bad human. That's why you're the best in the fucking business. That's why you're the best in the business. All right, um, people say, why's Blum on that show? Did you see? Why did you just do it? Popeye Abdul-Ele-Sai. He just brought up Popeye Al of Duke by side. He's like this right now. He's doing the little stuff. In the ACC, my champion is Miami, Liam's champion is Miami. Liam's, uh, runner up is Louisville. My player of the year is Darian Mensa. Liam's player of the year was CJ Bailey. My coach of the year is James Franklin. His coach of the year was Tosh LaPoi from Cal. My disappointing team was SMU. His disappointing team was who? Clemson. Um, my surprise team is pit. His surprise team is Syracuse and he always says wild card. I don't know wild card because they're not a true super. It's more of a wild card like they could disrupt shake things up a bit, but not win a bunch of games. My most underrated game in the conference is Virginia Tech and Virginia. His most underrated game in the conference was Florida State and Clemson. My breakout player, CJ Bailey, his breakout player is somebody I've never heard of. That is on your like surprise theme. To see it, what was the name? Wait, who's your surprise team pit? Pit, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Josh, Gary, a Josh, Gary, I God bless you. Also dude, what Virginia, Virginia Tech with the Bober, Bula James Franklin storylines going to be so sick. I'm telling you, dude. I think people are not paying attention to the state of Virginia. And I think there's some interesting shit going on over there, man. I don't, I'm, I'm, I'm preaching too much about Virginia. Upset that you felt in your plums. Oh, we didn't do upset. Yeah, what do you feel? You got one? Yeah, I went Cal SMU. I talked about before, I thought about before you had SMU's or disappoint team. I know SMU's been winning games last few years. It just hasn't always been impressive and pretty. If Cal's going to take a jump this year, went all I did. Look was like seven and a half. They got to find some games. I liked them to win that one on the road. JKS, what a, what a talent. My mind goes to pit, picking somebody off. Hmm. I'm just looking. Let me, let me just go through my, just look around, look around, look around. Cause Cal, Cal, you know, you know, when we talked about the Big 10, there were certain teams we just never talked about. Didn't talk about Michigan enough. We haven't mentioned the word Georgia tech on this conference preview at all. They're very, very, that like the arrow has been pointed straight up. Now Haynes King has gone. It feels like they're just kind of floated back to the middle. But I don't think they're going to stay in the middle. I don't, I don't know what I think about them at all. They got Mendoza, right? Yeah, they have Alberto. We need to see play legitimate quarterback. Like I don't know what to make of them until I see him. I have no idea what to make of them. So I'm just, I'm just going through here. Look out for Phoenix, Felton on Georgia tech though. Phoenix, Felton. Yeah, safety one name. Let me, let me, let me. No, Virginia tech's not going to beat Miami Virginia tech had Miami at home. I would think about that one. Like somebody, it makes sense. Somebody like Miami might get got by somebody. But I'm looking at one right now, but there's no way. Week two, Brandon Friday night on the farm, Stanford hosts Miami. Yeah, yeah, didn't they owe it was two years ago, they almost got them. Was that Stanford or was that cow with the targeting? That was cow. That was the targeting on Mendoza. That was cow was up in that game crazy. Everybody I want to beat SMU has to go to SMU. How about Florida state beating somebody? How about Florida state beating now that's all on the road, dude? Come back to me on my upset. I'll, I'll add it for the graph later. 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And if so, how long till he gets that point? I love you, Brandon. Oh, one 100% he can get him back to national title and real national title contender, not somebody who has to get there by corrupt ways, but actual national title contention. I think this year is about making sure Bryce underwood is a legitimate future of your program. You win nine games with this schedule. That's great. That's phenomenal. You want to eight, but Bryce shows that he is the quarterback of the future. Then you go into 2027 as a legit national title contender. The defense is always going to be there. The running game is always going to be there. And he's going to have the meat and potatoes of a program always there, just based on his ability to get players with the resources at Michigan. I have no doubt winning him is going to have a national title roster starting next year. But it's all about can Bryce underwood? Can they make sure this season is about getting Bryce underwood ready to be the quarterback of a national championship caliber team? And I think they probably can because he's actually getting coached for the first time. Voice mail number two. Brandon, my favorite storyline from last season was James Franklin getting fired in the middle of the season. There's coming season. What coach do you think is the most likely to receive a mid season firing? And what game would be the nail in the cuff? I mean, Bluffman pretty much hit it. Every single, well, it's funny. You said that at the end, every single game, Mike Norville coaches is just one closer to when he inevitably gets fired during the season. Would it be crazy? Let's let's just put it put out the guys who could be fired in the season. Mike Norville looked fickle. Would it be crazy if Nebraska's three and five this season and Matt Royal gets fired? Like it's just it's for whatever reason this rebuild is not happening. It's not taking would it be crazy if they lose a game. They don't think this you lose and he gets fired. Kalen the board is also a guy. They were to lose three games by the end of October. That could be on the table, but probably not because they're not going to lose three games by the end of October. We haven't mentioned Keeling Russell being named the starting quarterback there. Either, but that was a no brainer. You're not going to go into a make or break season with Austin Mac as your quarterback. But Norville's getting fired during the season. I would say fickle is on deck and then rule is third. Am I missing anybody Liam? Bella check. Yeah, Bella check. Bella check could be fired at any moment. You're right. Bella checks one. Bella check is definitely one. All right. Voice mail number three. Hey, what's up Brandon? This is Joe from New Jersey. I have a question for you. If the US government decided that they wanted a service academy to win a national championship and gave one of them an unlimited budget to spend on NIL players. Could they win a national championship given the rules of a service academy? And which service academy would you choose to be the one to get the unlimited budget? Thanks. They're awesome. So the is one of the great questions i've ever is one of the great questions i've ever heard if the god damn u_s_ government said enough is enough we're winning a national championship we're syncing every we're putting we're moving defense fund defense department funds around to buy players so army navy air force it's got to be army right it doesn't it doesn't feel like it has to be if they're gonna air force i feel like i don't know their size limitations the air force probably not it's just this feels like they're gonna put the money in in in the u_s_ army and say watch how tough the u_s_ army is with the with the you know what i'm not even worried about the limitations of of the rules of service academies if we if the if the u_s_ government's getting behind them and throwing a bunch of taxpayer money into it they're probably going to say the help of the rules anyway they're probably going to say a change of rules so i'm gonna say on the banks of the hudson army becomes a twelve-and-oh magnificent powerhouse just to show off our might that's a hell of a dream right there what do you think well i was trying to think what would happen at head coach i feel like you can replace munkin what do we need to replace that coach i i'm just think that was the first thing i thought of was if we're putting all this money into the program are we also trying to pay the most for a head coach to which i'm like i want to replace munkin he is army football but are we are also are we having to change the offense if we don't have the limitations we're not gonna run the we're not going to run the option anymore are we we're going to go out and we're going to get a real offense we're going to right yeah and that's paid imagine lane chiffen lane chiffen coach of army just tweaking tweaking about tweaking from the bar with two chicks with an army hat on i don't like thinking about army not running the option uh well i'm just telling you i like that if we went out and invested all the money into the players were not running the triple option anymore it's okay don't worry about it's not happening that i'm sorry you see you mainly i'm sad next voicemail please see you walking blood and this is a Lewis and Pittsburgh but i want to be the first to say each hit pit i'm a mountaineer man backyard brawl is good every single year even if the teams are dog shit which robberies not the big ones are good every year that you look forward to thanks let me know come on here the why you Utah's always good um i like the Kansas Missouri or plan again the backyard brawl is is way way up there it is it it's fucking batshit insane no matter no matter what um i think the egg bowl always has intrigue even though we've been dog shit for the last five or six years and they haven't um they we still manage to like make them sweat a little bit um what what's another one Liam you want to throw one from the fcs here that's crazy oh wall montana montana staper all the wild i was thinking cowl Stanford remember how much fun we had last year with the acts battle at the end of the uh SMU TCU the battle for the iron scoyle and it was always growing up for me Oklahoma Oklahoma state was always at the top for me and then we just said we ain't playing bedlam no more yeah um what are you doing what yeah i'm sorry sorry can you do me a favor can you go uh just turn that TV off thanks my my son emerged from his cocoon from from his hibernation summer hibernation i haven't seen him in weeks what was what was what you doing with your hair all right anyway uh good one last voicemail please this is Mitch from Omaha lifelong huster fan but i'm done talking about the husters so they went at least nine games so i've got a fun hypothetical for you today if you had a freaky friday situation where you woke up in one of these two coaches bodies which one would you rather stay in so we got James Franklin at Virginia Tech at a historical conference that seemingly has a lot of support but not a lot of expectation or Kyle Whittingham had a proven uh program that had a recent success that needs a little bit of rehab in the public eye but you have the resources to win right now which one would you rather be thanks all hang up and listen i think it's pretty easy i think you take Whittingham i think you take the job i mean they've proven they can't win a national title over the last three years you you take misskin you got a five star quarterback everything James Franklin is going to do it Virginia Tech is because James Franklin is that Virginia Tech whereas Kyle Whittingham is getting there and taking control of a kitchen that's stocked with wonderful ingredients all he has to do is cook a presentable meal James Franklin has to grow the ingredients has to bring the ingredients has to bring everything whereas he has to be like farmed the table Kyle Whittingham just has to be a decent chef and i would take Kyle Whittingham for that that was one of the craziest analogies i had no idea where it was in my head but it worked out pretty good loving you what your body you body switch tomorrow you Whittingham are you Franklin i guess i'm James Franklin but that's on the caveat i'm not staying at Virginia Tech i'm tired of acting all like like this guy's a Virginia Tech in four or five years okay i'll be gone after two but they are the team that's they are the team that swooped in gave him a chance when his name went low maybe maybe yeah i'm sure he's really really cares real loyal about that second of paycheck comes off he's dipping the better school with more better facilities all this that yeah he's gone all right uh so uh that's our big 10 ACC preview we'll be back on Thursday with our SEC big 12 preview but we're not done yet we've got Greg McElroy from ESPN we had his partner Sean McDonough last show now we got McElroy to talk a bunch of crap now he didn't talk any crap i talked some crap and he is one of the respected voices in college football here's my 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interview time uh. we continue to roll through the best in the brightest of college football considering i am not one of those guys i got to bring them in here so i can talk to them and this is a very fun uh. kind of back to back for me we did a uh. one and now we're doing it too because the last show we had we had Sean McDonough the great all-time legendary play-by-play announcer and now we're bringing on a espn football analyst and a partner of Sean McDonough we're bringing on former alabama quarterback who absolutely just drove a stake in my heart multiple times Greg McArroy Greg thank you for joining the show you get to see beat up everything good bud everything's good everything's good the show is shockingly going well so far i haven't been shut down by the fcc i've been shut down by Dave Portinoi i'm at six episodes now so i beaten all the expectations that's good that's it man just keep rolling right along yeah the southeastern conference is too worried about shutting you down i think they'll be all right oh i said the fcc but the fcc but they said the scc my brain's already going there no my brain's already going there i could see some of the things i've said the scc may be like hey maybe just shut up right now but um so i want to start there because i had him on the other day and i thought the conversation we have you obviously haven't seen it but uh conversation i have with Sean McDonough was amazing uh what a what a legend of the game or what a wealth of knowledge about college football just what an awesome dude man yeah it's funny like i mean you know when i get the call and i'm working with Sean uh i was like first of all this is awesome yeah i've been then listen to my whole life you know it's kind of a he's obviously a legend a guy that i've always looked up to those guys i've always always always enjoyed listen to his calls um so to get the and i'm never talking to Palmer about this like Jesse Palmer it's had the same thing when he was working with Brent he's like it was weird when you got in the booth and you like look over and you hear and looking live like i get the same feeling when i'm sitting there and listen to him make a call and his voice cracks or he captures the moment so perfectly it's like i can't believe i get to work with this guy you know he's just that good so yeah he's a wealth of knowledge he loves the sport um he actually has a more of a coaching background than i think a lot of people realize and uh he's hilarious too so he's got that dry wit that that makes it really fun to be around him so a lot of when you're on the road dude like what you see on the air is just three and a half hours but when you're together for three days a week for 15 straight weeks like he become very close uh so he's one of my best friends in the industry and we've had a great time together to put and chose on the last few years he also says he beats you and golf Constantly, his word not mine. Uh, well, um, that's just what I've heard. I'm talking on the report when I've heard, dude. Well, it's fair and I wouldn't push back on it. I have three kids under seven. So I will say that the game has regressed. Yeah, um, but at, you know, my best day against his best day, I really like my chances. However, my best days are very, very few and far between as evidenced by this past weekend. Uh, club championship, I shot 80, 86. Uh, so not, not exactly what you're looking for to go 26 over when the winning score was three under. So yeah, I'm really not trending in the right direction. That's about where it should be. Come football season, right? If I shot an 86, I would spike my putter on 18 and turn to the clubhouse and crotch chop like I'm DX and I would absolutely, I would absolutely be the most insufferable person on the golf course, even if I probably already was. All right, let's dive into football. Uh, I've kind of asked this of everybody. We had clad on a couple of weeks ago and, all right, he was on PMT a couple of weeks ago. And he laid out something that I think we're all kind of using. Not as a blueprint, but we all kind of agree. Uh, he said there are seven teams that go in the national title, kind of unanimous. That's what he believes. I look at those seven teams. I got Ohio State, Oregon, Indiana, out of the, uh, big 10. I got Texas, Georgia out of the SEC. I got Notre Dame, Miami, those seven. And then you can add or use to attract however you want to do it. But you think that seven team is, that seven, that group of seven teams is kind of our elite group this year or would you add somebody? No, that's where I've been all off season two. You got to have like seven. There's a slight gap and then you have the middle tier. And it kind of depends on on who you're talking to and how they're perceiving things. Like how many teams are in that second tier, if you will. But my question to everybody and, and we said this last year too, it's like, well, there's eight teams that can win the title. Like, and then the year before, well, this year there's seven that next year there's 10. Like last year, the 20th ranked team in the preseason, the quarter of the AP went in one, the title went six, you know, in the process, first seem to do it in 130 years. So like, yeah, do we really know every, it's, it's harder and harder now to anticipate who's going to be good because rosters turn over like crazy. And then the other thing too is injuries kill you now, like you're dead. You get an injury outside of the anomaly that was Ole Miss last year who lose their quarter back week two and their backup ends up being better. Like an injury, you're done. No one's deep enough to weather the storm of a significant absence. So like, yeah, I think seven are cut above and the seven that that clad ugly. I think it's kind of universal. We all kind of are in the same boat. The big question to me, because I think every team in tier two could win the title, but it required the stars aligning. Whereas the top seven, it's like they can maybe not play as well and still potentially be in position to win it. Whereas teams eight through say 15, they would need a, I'm not saying a miracle, but they would need someone to maybe their quarterback to play above their weight class or or a defense to be really opportunistic and turn people over at the right time or have a favorable schedule. What have you the way I differentiate those two tiers? I think you're right. I think this is a very clear three tier system this year. It's the first seven probably the next eight or nine. And then everybody else in the portal and none of the others is absolutely clumped that last group up to where they all believe they have a chance. So, but anyway, that second tier, I think they can all win the title. Yes, but unlike the first tier, that second tier all has bus potential as well. They all have something, something going on that could like with Oklahoma. I would add Oklahoma as a team. They're going to win the national title, but their schedule is capital B brutal. Text to say, and you're bringing back a playoff team, bringing back a playoff quarterback, but you're replacing almost everything on the lines of scrimmage with Ole Miss. You're changing coaches with Alabama. You don't know the quarterback's going to be like all of them have something that is kind of like bus potential. I'll talk about Oklahoma here. See what you think. I would put them in the first group kind of because I think they have huge national title potential with Mattier, who was one of the best quarterbacks in the country for six weeks last year, and that elite defense, plus, and this is the thing that we often just don't notice. Remember how Indiana made the playoff two years ago, and then we discarded them? Well, making the playoff and not winning is often a very key step into winning the playoff later. It's a, you got to kind of get on the green before you can make the putt. Indiana did it, Ohio State did it, Michigan did it, Michigan made it two times before they finally won it, and Oklahoma made the playoff last year. They lost, but I think getting on the green taught them how to putt a little bit. Anyway, those are, I believe that about Oklahoma. What do you think there's a team in the second tier, you would favor to get out of that second tier and into that first tier? Well, the biggest thing. First of all, there's a lot to impact there. So I said way too much. You're right. I don't know. But let's just start with the teams that we shot. We thought for sure last year were anti-bust proof, right? Fair enough. Yeah, great personnel, everybody back, it's an all-in-year, no way this, this team goes wheels up. Like no, no chance. They're toast, right? And it's Penn State Clemson and LSU. All of us were like, oh, dude, look at those, look at those rosters. Yeah. Like all those, and then all of them finished to combine, what, 21 and 18 in that vicinity. So. Too far, coaches. You correct. I mean, and, you know, if Davo hadn't had the skins on the wall, people would have been coming for him too. And you're sure there's several that were so. And so I think that now, like the whole well teams eight through 15 can bust. Well, teams one through seven can bust, too, they almost look like locks at this point, right? So we'll start with that. Number two, with Oklahoma, I love Oklahoma's roster. Like, there's a, I agree with you on the tier when healthy, I think he's great. The defense will be awesome. That group travels. I think getting in helps you for sure. I think the offensive coordinator with a year under his belt in the South, these are conference kind of understands the lay of the land a little better. And I do think there is a learning curve there because he came from Washington state, no disrespect the coach and the teams they played. But you didn't have to worry about your tackles and past protection. Like it was just, they're going to block them. It's fine. Yeah. Whereas in the SEC, it's like, well, that dude could take over the game. If our tackles on an island, we got problems. So I think there is a bit of a learning curve there. And I think that is probably helpful. So I, there's a lot to love about Oklahoma, but you hit the nail on the head. Like, if they get there, they can win it all. But getting there is going to be a beast and you look at forecast and projections. People say like seven and five based on projections and way too early lines and sports betting applications and stuff like that. Like they're going to be underdogs in at least four games. So that's tough to wrap your head around. And they had to navigate that beautifully last year and got there. But can they do it again? That's the big question. It's already been a little banged up and camp along the offensive line. So I love Oklahoma this year. I love their personal. It's just hard for me to have them higher than say 10 ahead of maybe Bama and A&M who have a more manageable path to the playoff. Whereas Oklahoma has an absolute gauntlet. So let me ask the Alabama question right now. I have them at like 14 or 15. I personally might, might take on it. I don't believe in DeBoard, Alabama. I think it isn't that they've lost games. It is how they've lost games. I really thought they laid down against Florida State last year. I really thought they laid down when Indiana started thumping on the school last year. And that's just not the Alabama I grew up with. Alabama is a team that's supposed to get off the bus knocking you around the field. They, I don't feel like they do that anymore. So that is my take coming into the season. You seem higher on them. What do you think the key for DeBoard in year three to make sure this thing gets back up to the Sabin level? Well, I think he getting it back to the Sabin level is almost untouchable, almost impossible because the era doesn't lend itself to stack that type of death. Yeah. So like you lay down in a game now, like you can't get replaced because you're, you're clearly the best guy, you know, like because back in Sabin's day, there was just a natural built-in level of accountability that if you don't perform, you're replaced because the number two in some ways is everybody is good as the one and they maybe just haven't had the experience. You know what I mean? So it's difficult to create that same type of culture and consistency. I do think though that this year's team is more evenly spread and the talent is more evenly dispersed. Whereas last year it was kind of consolidated a quarterback with Ty Simpson, who was an unknown going in the last year, it was consolidated on the back end defensively, you had veteran presence at second level defensively, but I frankly don't think that that group was ever that good. I mean, it was reflected by the NFL draft where guys were not drafted as high as the traditional Alabama linebackers have been drafted. I think if you look at Alabama the last couple of years, it's relative to what we've come to expect from the tie. They're having a bit as talented. I mean, I don't know what else to say. They went save and retired. They had 46 guys going the portals, so they just didn't have the dudes. I just think this year's roster is a little bit more capable and maybe a little bit better across the board. So it's going to lead to a little more consistent performance. But they got to get quarterback right. I mean, at the end of the day, this is scaling to board's offense and quarterback is a very important part of that offense. So then a lot of other other places where they've even get by with a great run game or your quarterback, some magician running the football and you can create quarterback run and things like that. But I think you got to have a guy that can drop back and rip it. And they have two capable guys. I think healing Russell's got an insane ceiling. So if it's him, I mean, there's no telling what could happen. I think Austin Maxx kind of the safe pick where it's like, all right, maybe we need a guy. We've got a great defense. Let's just play it safe on offense, not make mistakes. So, where will it go? No telling. I think it's a really close call. But if they need the upside quarter back, Keelan will probably be the guy. And if they want to play it safe, it'll be Austin Maxx. So I think the biggest reason why I'm bullish on Bama. of this year though, is because schedule is more manageable than it's been. And if you look at some of the other contenders in the SEC, especially the schedule is just not nearly as tough as some of the other teams that sit in front of them. Like an A&M, you got tough one, Texas brutal, Oklahoma's brutal, a handful of others are very tough. Whereas Bama's, you know, 15, 16, 17 in college football, which isn't that bad relative to most SEC teams. Yeah. Greg sitting there saying that like they don't have a trip to Starkville in week five, but I don't play in there, dude. So like, let's not get it twisted. Like that's no cakewalk. I've walked into there and left with the bloody nose multiple times. I mean, I remember walking in in 2000. What was it? Seven? Yeah, seven little crop duster fly over before the game. One of the coolest flyovers I've ever seen. Were you there by chance? 2007. I was not, but I remember the game. I remember we had a hundred yard picks six on John Parker will 102. Yeah. Yeah. To be exact. Yeah. On a spider to wipe an in. That's right. My Johnson got blown up by Titus Brown. Shout out my Johnson. So yeah, that was, I mean, I'll never forget that game, but yeah, dude, that's a tough place to go. Yeah. I think they're kind of a sneaky team. So like, yes, on paper, Bama's schedule is more getable. Doesn't mean that it's without potholes. They're still there at Kentucky, at Mississippi State. Those are not cake walks by any stretch. So you got to take care of business on the road. I want to ask about a couple of quarterbacks for the next two questions. You obviously have the expertise in quarterback. All of college football, but you know, you're recorded back yourself. So I have a criticism of Dante more. I feel like Dante more is probably the most beloved quarterback coming in. Either him or Trinidad, Chandler's people really love him. It could be number one pick in the draft. I'm just going to live in my criticism now and you've just answered it. I mean, Dante more is a great, great, great player when his team is more talented than one across when they played elite defenses or good defenses last year. I really thought the quality of his play dropped a lot. I'm talking about the first game against Indiana, the second game, against Indiana, even the road trip to Iowa. I really feel like when there was an elite defense on the other side, he didn't play that well, but he is a year older, a year, wise, or a year better. Is that a fair criticism or should I just shut up? Well, it's fair because every super high level quarterbacks can drop off a little bit against elite players, right? That's to be expected. I mean, the biggest thing with Dante more when I've watched the more I've studied the more he got hit, the more quickly it affected his game. So like if he's taking hits and he's getting sacked and he's and he doesn't feel comfortable. And by the way, the greatest of all time, Tom Brady, like the greatest ever, right? You hit him and he wasn't seeing the rush or the pressure, the way he normally did. Like it, you saw his game drop off from time. It doesn't, it's not it, it's, it's very natural. It's very normal. It's understandable. Yeah. Turns out getting hit by a 300 pound man, probably sucks. Yes. Like if you listen to any defensive coach, you're like hit the quarterback, affect the quarterback. That's what they say, right? Effect the quarterback by hitting him by being having guys around his feet, making them uncomfortable. And, and I do think that tie Dante more at times would look a little uncomfortable against an elite pass rush. Now, the good news is he's got pretty good offensive on. They have a really good run game. Like there's a lot of things to like about his game. And when things are clean in the pocket, like he'll kill you, kill you. So the big thing when playing against him, I think is, hey, muddy the pocket, muddy the looks, have people around his feet make him move in the pocket and see if his accuracy is as good, because you look at the games where he wasn't as sharp last year, the Iowa's, the Indiana games, things like that. They all hit the quarterback. They hit him. So like, if you can hit him, you can bring him back down to earth. So he's not superhuman anymore. Maybe he's just really, really good. He's not crazy elite where he's going to carve you up. So I think what you're saying is understandable and great defense is will tend to get home, but he also is a young player. So I happen to think that he can probably weather the storm a little bit better this year than he did last year and even to the start back in the day at UCLA. Second quarterback, I want to ask you because the internet just is so divided and I feel like the media and football guys are not divided on this guy. And it's archmaning. And I feel like I got archmaning ranked as a number one quarterback in the SEC coming into this year. And that is acknowledging that in September last year, he wasn't very good. It's acknowledging it took him a while to get better. But we have forgotten how to let quarterbacks develop. We've forgotten how to let them learn. We forgotten as soon as they suck or as soon as they stink, we're like always stinks forever. And I feel like the internet kind of holds onto that a little bit. But coming in, I look at the weapons, I look at the coaching, I look at the full package, the fact that he can run. And I think this year, you're going to see an archmaning that is that is unparalleled and costable. I think you'll be the best quarterback. I assume because you know what you're talking about. I know what I'm talking about. You're big on arch this year too. But what do you what do you think about that setup of the internet? Some people divided on him, but but what do you think about archmaning as the question? Well, it's it's the same reason why everyone wants the five star freshmen to start because he hasn't disappointed yet. Yeah, but it's but now it's like you already hear rumblings at Michigan like maybe Bryce underwood isn't the answer. It's like, dude, he was a freshman like relax. Like what did play out? Yeah, that's not that's not throw the baby out with the bathwater just yet. Like there are plenty of guys that had some challenges early in their career and played their way through it. Dante Moore's a good example of that. Like he was very average at UCLA gets to Oregon sit out a year learns from it has a great season last year. So I think arch is fantastic. I really like him. His athleticism is big. I think a lot of people will focus on the inadequacies of his first six seven games, which is totally fair because the expectation levels a little unfair, you know, it's yeah, it was. I mean, it just it was it was not it was not right. It was it was over the top. Not in I think a lot of us were just excited. You know, it's the next manning. I grew up in Peyton. My favorite player ever is Peyton Manning. So like the next manning like I'm grit naturally just want to watch this young man and not necessarily critique him. But dude, he didn't have any help. Like if you look at his first couple games, the receivers were all banged up. I mean Parker Livingston became his number one receiver for the first five games of the year. He's the number three at Oklahoma now. And he was the number one for Texas last year. When Ryan we go got healthy. Things got a little cleaner. You look at the games against like UTSA and you tip. It's like who cares? I mean, he was just trying to find himself probably try to do a couple things against competition. That isn't the same level. You tried some things. Maybe you you roll the dice a little more than you probably should. You get got you learned from that against Florida. He got destroyed. I actually thought he played pretty well in the Florida game. People look at it. Well, he looked at a couple picks. Look at where he threw the ball and look how often he was getting hit. That guy got killed in that game. He got killed against Kentucky and and hung in there and ended up winning the game. And though it wasn't pretty. Like his old line was a disaster. So you can say it was about arch, but you can't play quarterback by yourself. Like no one can. And I do think those around him didn't allow him to necessarily shine early. And then they solidified the front and starting in the fourth quarter of the Mississippi state game. I know I'm aware. I'm aware Greg. Let's not get to we don't need to go to the details. Yeah. It was finally like our stopped playing not to make a mistake and start saying do we're down 21. I don't give a damn anymore. Let's rip it. And it's like he started ripping it. And all of a sudden they erased that deficit when the game and over time he's like look what happens when I just cut it loose. And I just don't care. And though caution the win, I just start slicing. Yeah. They want on a tear from that point for and they weren't the same. And I think that will carry over into this season. So I'm super bullish on him. I think he's got all the skills in the world. And honestly the mental toughness is what I'm most impressed with. Like that dude took more heat than any college player maybe in the history of college football last year. And he was able to weather the storm. I'm not talking about like the off the field stuff. I'm talking about all the field performance. No one took more heat than arch and he lived to tell the tale. So I think he's gonna have a great year. And now he's poised and they bring in Cam Coleman. Like he's poised for a big one. I think we're six for six. You're the six guests on the show. We're six for six on somehow the fourth quarter of the Mississippi State Texas game getting brought up. It's unbelievable how it keeps coming back. We are all the all the guests are texting like hey dude make sure you get this to be state fourth quarter against Texas in. That's been a real topic of conversation in the group chat for sure. Josh Payt's running that group chat just his his bald ass just you guys are like best friends. What do you mean? No, I don't know about that where we're kind of enemies. I'm going to seem tomorrow, but I'm probably I'm probably going to run a show. All right. So we got let's see. I want to ask you this. Oh, it must be good this year. LSU be good this year. Yeah. LSU has Lane Kiffin. I don't know if you you're aware. He coached so much about six years. That's inside our scoop, but I pretty I think that's that's out there. Yeah, we're we're just putting really some some good stuff out there. What do you think this year? Lane or golden? Lane or peak golden? Who's standing taller at the end of the season? And that's just you can take it any way you want. I know you're an unbiased guy. I'm not, but Lane are golden. That's the question. Well, I mean, it's one of those weird situations is not a cop out, dude. I'm just telling you like as your boy, like I'm just telling you. Yeah. It's one of those weird situations where actually both sides are in a better spot as a result of what went down. Like it's a weird thing where it's like it's a little like Notre Dame when Brian Kelly left to go be the head coach at LSU. LSU was immediately benefited because they improved their their head coaching and the prowess and all stuff and what BK had done in his career. Like him dislike him, whatever, but there was a lot more there was there's a lot of accomplished. There's a lot of wins. The show of him Baton Rouge when he went to Baton Rouge. Agreed. And then you promote from within and guess what it kind of galvanized Notre Dame. When they left, they're like wait, hang on saying dude, he just left for Notre, wait, what? He left Notre Dame. Like we're Notre Dame. And all of a sudden Marcus steps up and everyone rallied around Marcus to demonstrate that hey, we're more than just one guy. So I know that's a weird way of thinking about it, but it's like LSU was better off because they got their guy. Notre Dame was better off because they finally woke up and said, all right, we need to start playing big boy football again. And they invested and the resources came pouring in and now they're off and running, right? So I think the same is going to happen here at Ole Miss. Like I think LSU is going to be in a better spot because of what Lane Kiffin brings and his approach to the modern era of college football. I also think that because Lane Kiffin left all of these boosters around Oxford have stepped up. And now they're they're not taking a backseat to anybody as far as finances and resources. Like they got tons of dough down there and Mississippi now. So I think it's one of the situations where it's better off. In this season, I lean Ole Miss and one because they host LSU and that to me is like a must win. If you're a Pete, you got to win that game. You know, and I think everyone senses that and that might be a heavy burden. I think a lot of people would say, I'd love to get Ole Miss the week after. So Florida plays in the week after. So yeah, they might get LSU. They better be careful with the Gators, but I digress. I think Ole Miss is better situated this year to have success. It's just more continuity. They're a deeper team this year. I think they're actually a more well-rounded team this year. If they can make sure that the wider receivers are good to go, which I think they will be just knowing the style of offense, they're going to be in a good spot on offense. Then defensively, they've reinforced like multiple spots on the defense front. Their front sevens can be legit. Their linebackers were reliability last year. Now it's a strength. So I actually think they're a better football team this year overall. And it wouldn't shock me at all if they had similar results the last year. Whereas I think LSU, there's a lot of new. There's a lot of new. And there's a lot. It's a different culture. It's a different identity. It's a great job of talent acquisition, but can it all come together? And doing it in year one, I think is going to be a challenge, especially if they get punched in the mouth early. Let's just say you play a close one against Clemson. You win. You win week two. You lose at Ole Miss and it's ugly. I don't think it will be, but just saying what if it gets sideways? Are the guys going to hang together because they've all kind of been brought in and they only have six months where they know each other. So that's a question for me on I'll see this year. A couple of basic questions here about the sport of college football. I get asked this all the time and I'm not a former player or a broadcaster who's there every week. I want to ask if you can differentiate this or if they're the same. You're allowed a stadium as a player and you're allowed a stadium as an announcer because I know it's two different experiences, two different preparations, two different everything, but maybe I just want to see how similar they are. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting. It's a great question. The loudest stadium for me as a player was Arkansas. And it was, yeah, 2010, dude. It was. Oh, they were loaded though. They were loaded. They were loaded, Ryan Mallet. Like they were stocked. Yeah. We were number one. They were number five. I mean, top five matchup. It was like, it was their first, it was their first like massive home game. It felt like in 30 years. Yeah. Whether it was or not, I don't know. I don't know. I'm not in Arkansas football historian. They scored on like the third play of the game. And we're down seven nothing like before we even got off the bus. And it was like, oh boy, all right, we got a day like it's going to be brutal. And that touchdown on the third play of the game was the loudest I've ever heard of stadium. They had those metal bleachers back then too. Yeah. You know, so it kind of reverberated and like it was kind of all on top of use. That was the loudest as a player. As a broadcaster. It's going to sound crazy. I'm going to go and it was last year. It was Bryant Denny, Alabama. When Alabama intercepted the pass at the end of half against Tennessee. Yeah. And he took it to the house. That was a loudest I've, I couldn't even hear. I mean, it was buzzing like you wouldn't believe. Xavier Brown or is that it? Xavier Brown. Yeah. The other one that I can remember, it was prior to a play. It was also in Alabama game. It was on the road in Starkville. I want to say it was 2016. No, no, no, Greg, Greg, it was 2017. Yeah. And and Calvin Ridley stepped out of bounds on a long route. And the ref threw his hat and he then cut came back in bounds and he caught the ball and he ran it down and outbounded up one in 24 to 17. Even the mistake was leading that game for the whole time. And then Calvin Ridley was out of bounds. The ref threw his hat and then he waved off the penalty. That was the game you're talking about. The one I was thinking of and maybe it was a close game. I just remember the defensive coordinator Todd Grantham. Yeah. And it was mullin. Yeah. He he brought all out blitz like three straight plays and they got him on the first two. On the third one, Jalen hurts through like a little slant to the left. I don't know if it was de Bonte Smith or who it was. It was Calvin Ridley. Was it Calvin Ridley? I'm pretty sure was Calvin Ridley. Whoever it was, it was like a slant to the left. Yeah. And before that snap, you know, the whole ring responsibly. Yeah. That was not observed. That was gone. That's that's that was probably one of the loudest like in a pre snap leading up building up to the moment. Oh, you know what place I've been? It was de Vante Smith. You're talking about the game when he touched down. You're right. It was the way it was going in towards the the opening of the stadium with the building. Yeah. Yeah. The slant was from left to right. That's right. That was a that was the loudest I experienced pregame, but reactionary was probably the pick six last year against Tennessee. All right. Now here's a good one. If you were coming out of high school today, and I'm going to make you a high four star, maybe even a low five star quarterback. Whoa. We really like you. I mean, everybody wants you. That's big. You look faster than I am right now. Oh my god. You are you are as good as you possibly be a football. If you're coming out of high school right now, and you got your choice, coach to coach, see the shining sea. Which coach do you think you're honing in on because you know, your own coach has gone, say, say, say, say, but don't coach anymore. Which coach are you thinking, wow, I can really, really like to play for that guy as a quarterback. Yeah. I mean, I'm from Dallas, Fort Worth. So like, South Lake, Carol, big like program in Texas. So for me, it would have been really hard. If I could go anywhere, it would have been really hard for me to turn down the Texas Longhorns. So I was like my team and to play for Steve Sarkiesian, like he's good enough for the manning family, probably good enough for the McRoy family. So that would probably be right there as maybe my number one, just where I was from. And if I could do it all over again, granted, like I love where I went. I have no, like I go to Alabama 10 times over for sure. But you asked me specifically, it's all hypothetical. Yeah. If 18 year old Greg had to go anywhere in the country, I would have ended up in Texas. But I don't know, as I've gotten older, like there is a real appreciation and soft spot in my heart for Notre Dame. Like I love Notre Dame. Wow. I love Marcus Freeman. I think Marcus Freeman does a great job with his team. I think they play like their hairs on fire all the time. So like I think he's done a great job too and then rock the RoC has done a good job developing quarterback, kind of adjusting their offense to the skill set. So he the other guy, and there's a million of them. They're all good for different reasons. That's what's kind of cool about. There's no right answer. There's no wrong answer there. It's just what are you prioritizing? And as like an 18 year old kid coming out of high school, like Texas and Notre Dame would have certainly been at the top. But man, I tell you what dude, my experience at Alabama was like next second to none. So the Alabama will always be A1A, but I'm not going to pick that one because that's the one I actually chose. If I had to go his secondary direction, those would be the two last question. Thank you for your time again. I know I believe you're going to be a week one in Nashville for Louisville. Oh miss, is that correct? Yeah, it's Louisville though. You can't say Louisville. You got to say Louisville. Greg, I learned the hard way. Greg, I am from West Point, Mississippi. Okay. I am doing the best I can. It's a town of eight thousand doing a great job. Just south. Just south of start. Well, there's another town called Louisville, Mississippi. Looks like Louisville, but it's Louisville, Mississippi. So I've been growing up with them my whole life. It's hard to get out of the habit of having Louisville and then respecting Louisville. So I'm doing my best. Anyway, last question. You're doing great. And West Point, Mississippi, a wonderful town, home of old Waverly, if I'm not mistaken. That's right there. Neat area, uh, frequent in the area many times. So it's a great spot. Um, do you have a Saturday circle yet? Or are I don't know if you get your schedule before the season or if you go week to week, I really don't know how you guys get the assignments. I haven't researched that. I don't know if you know that you're going somewhere every all 15 weeks or what, but do you have a Saturday circle yet? Like I can't wait for this moment right here. Yeah, I don't have the date in front of me. I'd have to look it up exactly. But there is a day on ABC where we're going to have and we get the second game. So Herb Street and Fowler will get the top game. We get the second game. So we can usually boil it down to two or three different destinations a week, like based on how we think these teams are going to pair. Depending on how that chalk flies. Like, yeah, you know exactly where you're going. If you have some upsets and stuff, it could certainly shuffle the deck. But there's one week where Bama is hosting Georgia. And on the same day, Texas is playing Oklahoma. Yeah. So I think it's like October 10th or October 13th. And that's seen like mid October early October. We'll be in one of those two places. I don't know which one yet, but either one of the biggest games of the year. And we're going to be fortunate to be on the call for one of the two. And I'm not sure you can go wrong in either direction. All right. That's Greg McElroy. ESPN College football analyst and a very awesome conversation. I appreciate it. You're very mature and measured in the way you talk about college football. The exact opposite of me. So thank you for, thank you for stopping by and doing this for me. And I appreciate it. Hey, this is a good balance right here. This is a good balance. Like you can just throw a haymakers and hot takes. I'm great with that. I support that entirely. And I'll just, I'll try to clean up and make sense of it. You know, we'll just, We'll balance each other out. It was a good, good visit, buddy. I enjoyed it. And I didn't cuss, not one time on this show that I cussed. So congratulations to me. Thank you very much, Greg McElroy, I appreciate it.