Bifröst Billy (Pt.1)

Um, you don't find out who the best teammates are when champagne is dripping off your ceiling. Welcome to Whitman. Find out who the best teammates are when the times are tough, and you are the best teammate I've ever had. Guys, it's official. I think I'm finally feeling better. Come on here, Whit. Good, it's amazing. Nah, it's gone. What the cares come over me? Hold on here. All that matters is the most. Am I too weak as I don't need a day or what? If you tell me to tone it down, I'm just going to turn it right to the fuck up. The ringing and eating a bird, and I see a train hunt run. Like you think I'm going to turn it down, makes you want to turn it up. Come on, do all the drugs, and we're going to have a day job who strip clubs. Let's get! I'm going to turn you into my char-mota. You're a beautiful man, brother, and that's a beautiful world, Eddie. That's a beautiful reason to be happy. Everyone has a little bit of season in them. Every fucking car out there, you're a fucking sick car if you want to be brought. So make a fucking sad car, right? Go out, get bitches, be a fucking sick car like this, bro. That's what we fucking do, bro. That's what we do in this shit, bro. It won't be a fucking sad car. Fuck that shit, bro. Every fucking haters are going to hate track. Six, four, one, ten, two, shred and bra. You'll never be like this. It's a fucking sick car, right? It's a car, right? It's a car, right? It's a car, right? It's a car, right? It's a car. It's a car, right? It's a car, right? I just think you're telling me that everybody was doing this. And I was a kid. This shit didn't exist. No. I talked to Shane. I never even had white monsters, though. You had no energy drinks or nothing. There was like stuff, but like, there was like caffeine stuff. Caffeine pills? There was caffeine pills and there were drinks. Mm-hmm. Like jolt. Remember jolt? I remember jolt came out of the gut. But there wasn't any of this other stuff. But like, what I'm saying is like these guys getting into all these lifting supplements and things like this and this is and all this. Yeah. These are guys. Regular big guys have played football. That's what it's for. Yes. And they're going to get big and it makes sense. But these like kind of nerdier. I'm not going to say smarter, but like more-- Smarter. No 100% smarter. No 100% smarter. Reading and playing video games and RPGs. Those guys, they're not meant to touch Jack through the day. I didn't know a body part until I was in at least college. Like, I could say all we're doing traps buys. But when I start talking about like the breakie Alice and shit like that. Yeah. Like that's you've gone way too far. Like you're into aesthetics. And that's where if you look and do like Ziz. Ziz is a statics. He came up and like, dude, that is if you wanted like an injection of like what it was supposed to be. And the reason I like lifting got into lifting like Ziz is in my head saying positive things. Now you've got something where a Chabadnik got this guy collicular. And it's like, oh dude, you have to like a rate people and like say fucked up shit. And Ziz was doing that. He was, but he was. It's a character. It was a character. 100% a character. Everything I say about this. You're in character. I'm in character. It's a 100% a character. This is a character's interpretation of what I've saw because like I was jammed. Ziz died. And if you buy pre-workout, the first thing you do is scoop in the drain for Ziz. That is 100% what you have to do if you buy pre. But before this, I go back. Well, I mean, I got jammed up when I said Connor Murphy dies. Yes. You fucking Thailand. And I'm like, dude, Ziz died. Connor, like, Ziz was Connor Murphy. He's in spa. Yeah. It's like, yeah. Ziz was 100%. Everyone who's into this stuff and like being fit on the internet. Ziz is the OJ. He's the man. And then I remember our boy fucking died from the Vax. Joesthetics. And I tell you, I just was like, dude, this is crazy. All three of these guys died. Had no idea they're all in Thailand. Yes. And the thing that's even more fucked up in which makes me hate fucking perplexity is like, you looked that up and it tells you, joe linder. It's early stages. It's Google. Still, it's pissing me off. Joe linder hung out with fucking. Like, if I search something and you search something, it shouldn't be different. No, it shouldn't. It should be the same answer. You should have known that joe linder is chilling hard with Tony Hughes. With Tony Hughes. Yes. But the very suspicious figure. This is the whole thing that got me fucked up was like out of nowhere. You just have me like, dude, check out Tony Hughes a couple weeks ago. Yeah. But he was in your crawl. He was in my crawl. Because you watched traffic and you forgot that you watched. Oh, yeah, I did. And Tony Hughes is on that holy fuck. But either way, I go back like the reason why I get in all this stuff. Like, dude, you're going to get hit with your gay. Like, why do you care about life? I'm getting it. No, no. People will say like, oh, your gay. That's why you like lifting. But like, back in the day, Matt had a face. Matt had a face. Matt had a thing where we thought he was on steroids. Yes. And probably, like, dude, no joke. He probably was on steroids. Me and Tom were like, Matt's on steroids. Because he got a huge out of nowhere. Yes. And he was probably on farms. And that he card still intact. Oh, that keeps your card. Matt didn't know. So like, this is what I'm telling you. Like, that was like, I remember Matt was doing animal packs. And when I was in grade school, he was in high school. What's an animal pack? So there's a brand called an animal. And they used to have like all these multi vitamins that you take. Okay. But like, yo, if you were selling fucking supplements. And they were like, say you're doing it from like some Chinese lab or something. Because like, dude, if you look into all these companies, every single one of these guys, if let me see something. Yeah. We're good. Okay. And believe it. Um, this is what I'm saying. What's that? Back to that. Hold on. What? It's really a little. Oh, I zoomed out. Okay. That was producer's hat on. It's also on here. It's no big deal. It's a little help would be nice. But, um, like, going back to like what Matt was taking. If you were selling those supplements, there's a really good chance that like, everyone, if you, everyone sources zinc and like all this stuff, everyone's taking the same stuff. So if you want a little bit of an edge, is it going to hurt if you throw little sarms in your mix? Like what? Sarms. Sarms is like kind of like a steroid type of thing. But like, you can take it with a pill and stuff like that. So Matt was on the animal pack, but it made him, made him loco. Like Matt, Matt, Matt's head gasket was going on on that animal pack. It was crying as shit. He was very emotional on the animal pack. Otherwise, very stable genius. So he's taking animal packs, losing his fucking mind. That's like me in sixth grade. I'm watching Matt taking animal packs. Like dude, I can't do that. Like it makes you blow your head gasket. It can only describe his health. So I go sixth, seventh grade. And then I want my, my O.G. Lutus. And like dude, mind you, this is where I kind of fucking, I identify with dudes like Ziz and Conor Murphy. Like there was a strict and holistic culture in my house. Yeah. So I had to go down my basement, put on wire 96.5. I mean, you broke the mold. Yes. A hundred percent. I put wire 96.5 on the radio. And then I would bench it. What kind of music is that? It's rap. Okay. So like, I would be bench pressing with a, you know, like the easy bar curl. I would just bench press with the fucking curl bar. Yeah, the bar. Just, no, with weights like 25 pounds, but it was like literally like a prison fucking bench. Right. And I just kept on doing that until one day, I still remember this. I don't know if it's like, I'll never forget it probably won't. I grabbed the Comcast remote and I felt my peck flex. And I was like, oh shit. It's working. The pump. Literally the pump takes over me. Yeah. And like dude, I'm going downstairs on a mad one. Dude, it's crazy. I literally lifted it and like, I did it once. Didn't know how to do it. And started grabbing the remote until I got the mind muscle connection and started flexing my pecs. That's kind of the great powerful shit. So like eighth grade comes and goes, I'm still just like kind of. I'm dying thinking of you in a full length mirror. No, I know that. I'm just imagining this. I know, I know you have no mirror. Dude, I know you're in a room with all your brothers. No, no, no. I'm in a basement to the right of me is a plywood wall full of stickers that have bullet fucking things that my dad used to shoot a fucking BB gun into at night. Well, you guys, I painted you guys bedroom. There was not a lot of mirrors, you know. There's no mirror. There was just in the bathroom. Like full length mirrors crazy. You got a full length mirror and you're just imagining this because that's what dude's that lift is. So I was why they think it's gay. Yes. I was down the basement literally just pumping away. I was hitting bicep curls and then I would get down and hit that. So G unit was very big at the time. Pure lifting fuel. G unit shit like that. Lean back by the tarot squad. Right. I would just wait for this at that. So like that all is cool. eighth grade. That's all I'm doing. Kind of getting jacked. Not gonna lie. Still like very fucking pipsqueak freshman year. I get in the high school and then that's when lifting starts. That's when I get my first flip phone. So right now you're so natty. There's it's just food and water. There's no water milk. There's no energy drinks. There's not. You're not you're not that you don't associate any. I'm literally trying to think right now how I source this shit. There's nothing like to enhance. You're just hitting the pump. Yeah, that's freshman year. Freshman years like crazy natty and like dude. I like I'm trying to think 2008 was my freshman years. 07 to 08 class of L8. That was my freshman year. I still think I was full blown natty at that point. I don't I don't think I was able to source pre workouts. And I was getting paid like 150 a weekend if I worked a Saturday. - Right. - It's like I'm working all fucking day long to obtain shit that I found on four. - Are you on protein? - No protein. My mom thought it was bad because Matt was on the animal pack. My mom's like, "You can't have that shit in the house." And Fed got it and it didn't do anything to him. - Yeah, Fed just doesn't have to build. - Fed has a pure Irish build. So like, I couldn't get protein. Protein was a big no-no because Matt said that's what made him wacky. So my mom thinks protein is like the devil. And I just showed you a picture of Jack three day what's that look like. - It looks like vitamins. - Looks like vitamins, dude. - You know, when I see that, that looks like medicine. - BSN labs. - Like especially the grape one, I'm like, oh, that might be medicine. - They kind of, it was almost like these. - The other ones, they're targeted to teenagers. - Dude, like, when I tell you, I took every single fucking pre-workout under the sun. Literally everything. Like, a new one would come out and it would look cooler. Like, Jack three day, I had to remember why I got off it 'cause it was so good. Like, Jack three day was so good. But some of my boys, this is pre-workout. - This is pre-workout. So like, I guess around sophomore year, freshman year, I'm just glad to be on the freshman team. You can find pictures of me. I'm fucking Pepsque. Like, I'm not that muscular. Cams for huge always have been not a big deal. 100% not either. But like, I was a fucking Pepsque. And then my boys got cars and we could hit GNC. - Yeah. - You didn't need to be 18 to buy this shit. - Right. - So you just have to walk into GNC. Go over C Jack three days. - Which is crazy. - It's dude. That's what I'm telling you. - Is that still the case you think? - 100%. This is like gray area stuff. And dude, like, it gets worse than this. Like what I was doing was wholesome and pure. There's other dudes that got on pro hormones. That's a whole 'nother story. - I mean, bro, we have bodies on this. - Okay. So like, I start taking Jack three day. And like, the thing that's pissing me off is I have a pretty sharp memory. I can't remember what made me get off it other than some of my boys starting throwing up. So like, my one boy took Jack three day to do the mile. - Right. That's not a great idea. - He's in very bad shape right now that I think about it. - Why not be meant for a mid-distance running? - Dude, this is like how far I've fallen off Olympus. I'm hitting like half a year of a mod take 'cause of caffeine intake. We were doing three scoops of Jack to get a mile down. - What MG's is that? - Dude, I have no fucking clue. 'Cause caffeine wasn't the thing. The thing that was in Jack three day was DMA. Or what is it? - Yeah. - DMA, I think it is. That stuff was like-- - Yeah, so I was getting-- - I was getting on Tony Hughes's ask. His fucking John Brava videos are hilarious. - Very fucking funny. - They were sponsored by Hans Labs. And I thought it was Peter Teal. 'Cause I thought it was in Hans Games. - Yes. - So I was like, "Oh, no dude, it's actually not Teal. It's this guy, Tony Hughes." Find out that there's all these like mini-docs on them. He's kind of a freak show. - Yeah. - He has harems. - Yeah. - I mean, check out Tony Hughes. But he is making a lot of the shit. - So he had his own company. - He had his own company. - Yes. - And I was like, "Do you ever ingested huge products?" - No. So I will go from 2008 until now and let you know exactly what I was taking. - Yeah, get down to business. - You can revoke my nanny card if you want. I don't care. - I don't care. - Knowingly, I've never taken steroids. That I'm not trying to get out ahead of this liver king, or anything. But '08 is when you have, these are like, dude, you know when we watch those videos of Greek gods and it's like there's cronus, and then there was fucking things like. - These are the Titans. - Jack 3D and NL explode. You will never get a pump. Anywhere close to this shit and have the fucking mental that you need. Like dude, I was tight grip benching 135 sophomore year. I thought I was a fucking god. - I like. - And like dude, you would take this shit. - What is this stuff doing to you? - It's insane. - DMAA, I don't know what the fuck it is, but they've taken it out of everything. So like, dude, I've never in my life after taking this shit, have wanted to like increase rap. Like I'll go to the gym on a little bit of caffeine and like I'll hit whatever. Like this shit would make you want to fucking go to war. - I mean, I'm not saying quit it with the mental health, but like what was going on? - No, it was a mental thing. - Like what was going on? Like what happens? Like this shit kicks in and like what is the vibe? - Dude, I remember fucking taking this shit and going to the brandy wine wine here with my two boys. And like I never like doing legs running shit like that, just stuff. But like we were ripping lunges with 135 barbell. Like, barbell 135 lunges. - And then you're like doing like one knee. - One foot, like almost a Bulgarian split squat with 135, all day long, and loving it. And then hitting a hot room. So like it just never ended and it's what I would like. - I do, I don't want to be that dude, but like the end of the road of that might be like when Tony huges like dude, I'm fucking three girls. My boy's fucking three girls. - Yeah. - And we're all doing it to get into cool thing is it's not that we're just fucking three girls. We're all together fucking three girls. - That's the, that is the Russian. So like in '08, ENO explode and Jack are king. Oh nine same thing. I'm still fucking playing football. 2011 is when C4 comes in. C4 took everything off. I don't know why I put Jack down. Other than I think people were having some issues with that shit. Like you were getting acid reflux. Like dude, having acid reflux in high school is crazy. - Dude, you're lucky to be here. - I told you that last night. - Dude, you have no idea. - Dude, I forgot. - So this is a nasal decongestant. - Yes. - Like now this narrows your blood vessels, raises your blood pressure. It's linked to arrhythmias, chest tightness. - Yes. - Heart attack seizures and psychiatric effects. - Bro, I was so stupid at the time though. I just was like, oh, this makes me feel like shit. But like I was more in touch with my body. I was probably having arrhythmias and something like that. Dude, but that's what I go 0809. - This is just meth. - Yeah. - It's an anphetamine. - I know dude. I told you like, that's what I'm saying. When you look at Jack 3D, you look at the ground dude. You don't look at that bottle straight in the face. Like that is Valhalla for lifting. - So you were doing drugs. - Pretty much. - You were doing like a little bit of meth. Imagine though, if you walked into a store and they sold you meth and was like, this is for lifting, you're doing nothing wrong. So there's no guilt. There's no weird fear about it. - Yeah, I'm just saying that you were experiencing the effects of, I don't know what happens if you eat it. I guess it's like taking rid of them. - It was like a fucking scooper. - Yeah, no, I'm just saying that's probably like when you take home. - I mean, dude, there would be nights where like I would fall asleep at six o'clock. - Like 80D stuff. - Yeah, it's like it's pure fucking like meth. Like there would be nights where I was in high school and I wouldn't go to sleep until the sun was coming up and I don't go into school, I'd do it. I fucking had one hour sleep last night. Like I was on some fucking crazy shit, but I was on meth. But this is what I'm saying. Like I can't even explain to you what that life is like because there was no stigma. There was no like, oh, you're a meth head. It was literally like, yeah, it's for lifting. So you're killing it. It is the best feeling in the world. And you're just after school. You already have the highest testosterone you ever will and you're on meth. I should have went to war. - Yeah. - Like I should have 100% went to war. For some reason, I remember vividly the Jack 3 day, it was like lemon lime, dude. It tastes like fucking batteries. Like it was so bad. Like it was not good whatsoever. We, I get off that shit. My butt, my buddy fucking threw it up, taking, trying to do the mile before like football shit. Like in the beginning of the summer or the beginning of the season, you have to do all these tests. My boy threw up doing the mile and everyone's kind of dude, I don't know about Jack. So that's everyone switches over to C4. - Yeah, if you're on speed, you don't want to run. - Not at all. This dude 100% threw up and he's had some serious problems. Now that like, now that you're bringing this up and I'm thinking about it, he's had some serious problems. I dodged about it. So like that's, you go, you switch over to NO explode because it's like a little-- - And this is like late 2000s. - This is 2008, 2009. - Okay. - So 2008, 2009 is Jack 3 day. I can still smell the gym. Like this is like first time getting pussy shit. - Right. - So then you switch over to-- - I mean, you've connected it to a drug behavior. - Pretty much, yeah. - Like you've had highs. - And I've told you, I gotta get on free. - This is not normal life. Like you had highs that you are like, you have you floor a gree call of the meth eye. - I'm pretty much a methadone addict when it comes to left thing because I won't touch the real shit. - Right. - And I'll just hit like a, oh, head of your, so like I'm kind of methadone adjacent when it comes to left thing because I told you before, I shrugged with like, I literally can't work out. - Well, you were in a C-4 going, I like to, you like the feeling of it. - You needed a little stem and the beta-alany. That was-- - Like the tingles. - The tingles were fucking huge for that shit. - But that's all you for a gree, that's all like, that's like the work, dude. Like that's all like drugs. - Dude, it's like heating up a spoon. - Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying, yeah. - That's what I'm saying. Like if you could just give me beta-alany and not be like, all right, it's time to part. - Well, if you were like a body hacker. - Yeah, so like this-- - That's what I'm saying, where you, like all this happened to you and you went through this, but thank God you are who you are. - Yeah. - And you were meant to be a-- - Something kicked me off the train. - Kind of like a football player like you were and all this stuff. - Dude, I would have went yard. - And you were just imagine if you were just like kind of a genius. - Yeah. - That wanted to bio hack. - I would have been fun. So that's what I'm saying. Like, I keep going, I hit, and I explode. And then I hit NO Shotgun. NO Sensor Nitric Oxide, it's for the pump. - Yeah, yeah. - That gives you some real, that shit gave you real good pumps. I remember all that stuff. And then I forget what the hell it is. It might be like citrally or something I started to take because one of the assholes at fucking vitamin shop was like dude, you can add this to pre-workout and it'll give you more of a pump. Dude, I was 17 years old and got a heart palpitation. I should have started to go fund me also, scared. So I completely get rid of fucking pre-workout for a little bit. I've done footballs. I don't lift. I'm just like drinking hot cocoa instead of coffee. Like I fucked myself. So like literally my saving grace is that I got too much caffeine got a heart palpitation at my cousin's football game. He was a senior, I was a freshman in college. So I was just watching this happen. It hit and I was like dude, I'm fucked because I was taking that stuff and like dude, here's the thing though. And like this is the only way. - Is this like three days a week? - What? You're taking it. - Every day. - You're taking it every fucking day, dude. Because you want to know why it's drops. And you feel amazing. And you get crazy fucking pumps where you can't touch your shoulder, bro. I couldn't do this. Literally. You know what I'm doing. But hit by stuff just for the fuck of it. Can't touch my fucking shoulder. It'll get you so fucking. Like dude, you feel like you're on top of the world. So then like this is where the timeline really helps me because like I just started hitting C4 from 2010 until 2013. I got rid of the citrilline. 2013, I kind of go back to my parents house for a little bit. - You make a sorry, see this whole thing? - Oh yeah, plus. - We'll screen it. - There we go. - 2013 is, remember I told you that I was like fucking. - He banned all your shit. - It's all banned. Except C4. I'm a dead man. - Holy shit man. - Dead man walking. I was chilling. So I mean, that might be your Earth suit. Feeling that heart palpitation and being like, I'm good for now. - I was like, fuck that. - If you kept going, man. - If I kept going, there was a million, there was a bunch of liver problems and shit like that. But you can't forget 1MR, bro. 1MR stands for, take a guess. One more rip. There was a free workout. Literally tasted like grundle. I think it was like a green apple favor, some shit. I would have to drink it and almost throw it up every time, but I did it because that's like, that's what 100 buy-ins, like I would smoke Parmesan cheese on the ground. Dude, I would drink one more rep for the coffee. - You probably would smoke more Parmesan cheese. - Like this shit was so fucking gross. And then that's where I like, you leave like the Jack 3D DMMA gets banned. BSN Lab just fucking crazy. But like they all kind of go away 1MR, I remember taking, and like that was towards the end or not. Yo yeah, so I was at Delaware County Community College, so I was a freshman in college. This is the only way I can keep track of that. - Hey dude, this is your story. - Like this and women is the only way I can keep track of that. - Now I get what you're saying. Like I'm gonna witness a soft sweat under Billy. - Yes. - So like. - I'm Mark Leigh at it. - To explain this stuff. Like I literally have to explain to you my thought process 'cause I'm literally taking drugs. And at this point, I'm watching-- - I should have filmed you in a black and white background. - Yeah, I'm watching Hodg Twins who are now right-wing commenters. - So this is when you're in a Crowder. - No, Crowder. - Dude, I'm confused. - This is before I looked into fucking, like dude. Imagine everything I look into. Imagine if there was nowhere to go but the gym. I literally would just watch a gym shit, watch porn, and fucking chill. - No, I wasn't doing shit. - What year's this? - 2011, 2012, like-- - Oh, okay. - It's after the hook is where I get-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah, gotcha. - So like, I remember literally, like it's 2012, so we got Jack that it's peak and craze. I remember being at the Rocky Run YMCA on craze. Craze got banned because there's fucking method in it. And that's the one I told you-- - All this is DNA. - No, craze, I think literally had like some sort of method that pulled, oh, also I took oxy elite pro 'cause I was trying to get a six pack and sophomore in junior year. - Is that a fat burner? - It's a fat burner, it's Jack 3D makes oxy elite pro. I took that shit, I knew I was kind of-- - What had been cool, dude? - Would have been cool, I got a four pack. So we're good with that. I did try it though, it is banned. So-- - So at this point, it's 20-- I'm looking at your timeline here. - It's 2013, nothing's available from here back. - Jack 3D-- - Everything for the last five years of your timeline is banned now. - The only thing that is around is craze. - Craze is still around. - Craze is still around, craze just came out. So like these fuckers, this is-- - And C4. - C4 is forever. Like they're, they're in Wawa, Kevin Hart sells them with a hoagie, like C4 is completely normal, and they won the pre-work. - What's really fucking love? - Crazy, it probably does. But I remember in 2013, this is right before I go to Temple, I'm at the Rocky Run YMCA, and I'm lefting at 5.30 in the morning for no reason. No one stopped me doing this. No one's like, hey, you good, like what's going on? Why are you waking up at 5.30 in the morning when you're going to Delaware County Community College? - I'm sorry, man, I didn't know. - And y'all listen to EDM. - I didn't know, man. - It's crazy shit. - So that's-- - They listen to electric music. - Yeah, craze is the one where I told you that I would take it, come home, and then run twice. I never ran in my life. - Yeah, you don't have to run. - He did the mile. Dude, I would run two miles and come home. I was like, fuck, maybe I'll eat some chicken. Like, literally didn't care at all. I was like, I didn't even fucking run. But I remember being in the gym, and this is when I started fucking around with Citroen stuff. And like, a dude came up and he was like, "Hey, are you all right, man?" 'Cause like-- - He's like the vasodialiners and all that stuff, so like, I was so gooned that two, three scoops of pre-workout wasn't enough pump. I needed an extra pill. - Jesus dude. - Yeah. If I did this now, I swear to God, you'd have to put me in a psych ward. Like if I took what I took in like, freshman year of college, high school, you would literally have to put me in a psych ward. - So you're just in the slow lane now. - Oh my God. I'm Mark Ritavel, dude. (laughing) I got fucking Jimmy Buffett playing in my bed. And I'm like, oh man, I got fucking A-Pull up. That's pretty good. And like, dude, I fucking chill. Like, I get off craze 'cause this dude came up to me and I remember like getting off of a decline, like, thing you do abs on. And he was like, dude, you okay? 'Cause I almost fell over. So like, dude, there's millions of fucking people that did this shit. I was at least in touch enough with my body where I was like, okay, I gotta get off this shit. That's when you get into stupid shit. Like, pre-Jim, this J-Y-M stuff. I remember taking that pre-Jim J-Y-M 2016. This is just another pre-workout? - This is another pre-workout. Like, you go on and off it. Like, I would get busy working and like, I don't even feel good. - Working in the gym is not a, it's not like a great thing. - Yeah, but like, even then, when I got off pre-workout, we would finish work. I was also smoking cigarettes at this time too. - That's okay. - Full blood and like, drug addict. I would, on the drive home, we'd all smoke sigs and drink Red Bull. And then, 'cause we were tired. - Yeah. - And then I would hit a pre-Jim before the gym. - Right. - So, like, 2016, I started getting into like, stim-free and stuff like that. You had C4 Rift, which tricked the fatties in the bindit because you thought you were gonna get a six back. This is all, everyone, like, I would sit there and watch Hodge Twins. - Yo, Ellie. - So they're lifting guys? - Hodge Twins, or what? - 'Cause they're like, oh man. - Hey, man, you're gonna make some muscle. - They're like, mega guys, right? - Dude, they are the most-- - This is why I thought-- - I have no, like, I literally love the Hodge Twins. - Yeah, yeah. - Like, I've gotten tips off those dudes. Like, they are-- - But they started out just as Jim guys. - Dude, they started out pushing each other out of a camera fame, asking if you wanna make some muscle. - And then I thought that they, then they were like, cracker bullies, right? - Then they got into like, the political shit because they're like, just, they beasted. - Okay. - They leveled up. - They leveled up. Or like, dude, I'm gonna voice my opinions on the internet. - Yeah. - At first it was just muscle stuff. And then it was like, them, Ziz was like, ethereal. - Yeah, Ziz is not of this world. - I wasn't on 4chan or any of that stuff. So like, I would just see pictures of the pose and be like, dude, who is this guy? - Right, it's aesthetic. - Bumbas fuck. And I figured out that he died. But like, dude, it was like all YouTube videos were lesbians kissing. 'Cause I got, I couldn't get on the point sites for a while because the computer was right in the family room. I thought I was better off on YouTube just hitting the back button. 'Cause we're falling to YouTube, I'm good. So it was like, lifting shit, lesbians lifting, and that's about it. But not lesbians lifting, lesbians kissing. And that's about it. So like, judging me for reason, I have a brother. - Absolutely. So like, I'm doing that stuff, chilling. Then I go into college and college. I pretty much just chilled on maybe C4 if I could get it. 'Cause I can envision it on my fucking thing. So like, C4 was kind of like the best one to take. - And these are not cans, this is a powder? - This is a powder. - This is a powder. - The can shed is like, this is new. - Okay. - There was no can outside. - Can't take me back. I've never experienced any of this. - So everything has been powder. Everything you're talking about is powders. - Everything's powder. - Right. - There were sick fucks that would just dry scoop it. I never did. I thought that was poor taste. - No, literally like powder in your mouth. - Yeah, eating. - And then chewing it up. There was other fucking assholes that would pour water and shake it up a little bit and make them like, in the chunks, I thought it was always good. Like, the craziest I got was the problem where getting a scooper in this, - You would have to get little funnels together. - Hey man, I've been making a-- - You know, baby bottles, I know what that is. - Exactly, so you kinda can feel my fucking mouth. - How have we not fucking mastered this? - I have no idea. - As a people, there should be a way. - Yeah, so like there was Conor Murphy, he starts coming in to the world when there's another guy named Greg Rio Gallagher. Greg Rio Gallagher was the modern day Bruce Wayne. - Yes, you showed me this guy. He had a good drone, he had like a drone take of him in like a mansion. - Yes, this is when you get into my lifting world. I'm sorry to think that shit's funny and I'm not lifting as much. - Yeah. - It's probably when I brought you to the gym and-- - This is when I went to the gym and you just worked out like a psycho in front of me. - In front of me. - I was in drugs. So now that you know, some sort of drugs, it was either, it was probably at that point C4. C4 was kinda the whole time, but it was C4 mixed with another fucking thing. I can't remember what it is, but it was an NO, it was a black and a pill model. - Okay. - And like the last, however long this is lesson, this, when I told you like, this is for any dude who's ever lifted, we'll know exactly what I'm talking about. - Right, yes. - This is niche. (laughs) - You're not trying to niche mock, but it's at this is for the lifters. I crushed that up until your Vermont, like I don't even think, I'm trying to think what I was taking. Once I got here, I would show for a little bit, but I never got any of the fucking like bad feelings and probably till 2020. 2020 is when like the gym and all that stuff kind of fell off and I was just working out at home. When I got back on pre-workout, it was when we were left, I started taking gorilla mine, didn't like that shit. - I was taking gorilla mines, having thoughts that just weren't my own. Like stuff, stuff I didn't need. - And this is more place more dates. - It's more place more dates thing. - I'm confused. - Yeah. - So like MPMD, he comes out with fucking gorilla mine. I took it for a little while and then like dude, this is where you get in a pussy bill. Like when it comes to lifting, I am a pussy. I will put my hand up because like the other way to go is, you are Conor Murphy or Ziz and you start taking, even though Ziz says he's lifetime natty, which I believe I'll never fucking be smirched dead. Conor Murphy and all those dudes, you can go down another road, which is like the rich piano road and stuff where like dude fucking I'm taking steroids. - Yeah. - And my boys have done that. Tony Hughes says everybody should be on tons of steroids. - Mm-hmm. - Back in the day though, there was people who would fucking talk about steroids and like the enlarge, enlarges everything. So you get enlarged hearts and shit like that. - I mean their faces blow up. - They get bowling ball heads. - It's weird. - My head's max cap. - I can't get this thing any fucking bigger. Like I would literally look like a monster. - Yeah. - Like I don't need a bigger fucking head. But like that's where I kind of got off it. I remember a real vague time where I was living in the Dickinson, where I was taking this shit called steel supplements. I shit my pants one time on the way home from the gym and it would make your Jinssen almost nonexistent. So I was like dude, fuck this stuff. But those were fucking pills. So I have no idea what those things were. - So you went from powder to random pills 'cause they took away. - For a little bit. - They took away what you knew. - No, it was just like I couldn't get that high. - They took it away. - They took the high away. So I was like dude, I want to try to find some other stuff because I was always chasing a Jack 3D high. - Right. - And I couldn't get to that. And that's where like I started looking at like the blackstone labs and stuff like that. Like I remember going into. - Well, these are some of John Bravo's earlier sponsors. It's Iron Mags. - Yes. - They do, they sponsor a bunch of podcasts. - They sponsor a bunch of Rx muscle. - Yeah, they sponsor that stuff. And it's fucking weird, like how they hold it down because a lot of these dudes like Jack 3D, they all got in trouble for DMA. And like all these people get in trouble for releasing stuff. So like dude, it's kind of fucked up because you're making like kids try to take like tainted supplements so they get a fucking pump. And like dude. - But this is just methadone from steroids or whatever. Like the end of this is a precursor. - Yeah. - You take this and you're like dude, I want to feel the way I fell with Jack. - What are you talking about? You're chasing the dragon. And it's like the dragon's out there, brother. - It's out there. - Yeah, it takes steroids. - I can't. - You just gotta take steroids. - I can't do that. I will never, I'd rather be fat than be on steroids. - You just gotta take tremolo. - You gotta eat a tremolo and you say which are some sort of that. - Are the trend twins connected to Tony Hughes? - I don't think so. I've never heard a fucking word. Tony Hughes is like, he, I'll bring up his fucking and remember this is acting. None of this is real because Tony Hughes is allegedly a warrior. So I don't care about that stuff. Tony Hughes, I'd never heard about him in all my days. Maybe I heard about him like tangentially, but like until you told me about Tony Hughes and this was two weeks for Connor Murphy, Dad. - Yeah. - I didn't know about Leo Longevi. So like, if you went down the dark side, me, I just went down the, I'm not trying to write my sorry, but I went down the, like. - Yeah, I mean, if you had a heart of habitation and you're like, yo, I'm gonna chill on this. But imagine if you had a heart of habitation and you're like, actually, why did that happen? - And how can I keep taking more of this? - How can I keep going? And it's like, if you had this other kind of a mind. - Yeah. - Like, I mean, this is sold as World of Warcraft to get in the gym. This blows my mind, that a kid did. So this is like a Dungeons and Dragons mind that was brought to the gym. These two things were never meant to be fueled by meth. - Never. - And that's the problem. - These two things. - 'Cause then you do, you do a little bit of that, the little ayahuasca. - Yeah. - At that point, you are a god. - That's why when I was watching the Conor Murphy stuff, I was always just like, do this guy's kind of fucking crazy because he was always doing the acting and stuff of that. I didn't know that he was like, when the whole Thailand aspect of it, I haven't thought a word, like I haven't thought about that at all. - Huge supplements, by the way. It's unrelated to Tony Hughes. - Jolander, I know it is. - Okay. - I know. - I like that up. - I like that up. - So the only reason I started paying attention to Thailand is because once you go further in, like 2020's area, I'll listen to Bradley Martin. Good man, he seems like fucking chill. - Yeah. - Like Dekad, Joe Estetix. - Joe Estetix. - Like I love all this stuff. I follow all those dudes. - And. - It still kind of gives me chills here and there. - His voice. - I heard him talking about how they took all of his blood out and he knew something was up. - Yeah. - And it's like, damn dude. - Good point. - Those guys are so, like people forget when the Vax came out and everyone was like, everyone loves saying like, oh dude, everyone's still alive. It's crazy. Yo, say that's all the hyper athletes that had heart attacks out of nowhere. - On the feet. - Like soccer players. Like fucking Joe Linder. - Yeah, you can go through and like start looking up articles about that stuff and it's like hiking causes heart attacks. And like all these things now cause heart attacks. - There's like a high school kids playing football. - And so heart attacks. - Yeah. - And they're like, oh, this is normal, this is always happen. They did it. They started saying, when I was telling you last week they came out as like dude, MRNA school, like everything's done and they said one of the side effects is myocarditis, which like dude, that shouldn't be a side effect. - They said this. - Oh yeah, but it's still healthy. But it's healthy. It's not that fucking manny. That's what I'm saying. Like I literally will never be able to get over that shit. That they did it. I won't be able to trust anyone in medicine none of that stuff literally did it themselves. It's like once a jitter always jitter. Something like that. But like I'm watching Joe Statics. Love the fucking guy. And then he dies and like when you're watching Joe Statics you're watching that do work out in Thailand. You know, this is a fucking crazy ass life. He dies in Thailand. - He can like flex different parts of his life. - Alien games. - Yeah. - So like he dies in Thailand. And then I remember when that happened. I was like bro, it was fucking Zizdyd in Thailand too. - See, I didn't know Zizdyd in Thailand. - Zizdyd in fucking Thailand. And he died in a sauna. So like I will say this. Ziz I have no idea. I don't know how that dude died. It doesn't make sense. I, unless like I don't know and like these people in Thailand are like the fireiest motherfuckers in the world. And if you fuck their girlfriend they'll kill you. Like I don't know how a completely healthy guy. - I mean they'll arrest you if you talk bad about a business. - Yes. - There, Lord knows what's going on over there. - The other thing I will say and like dude I'm with Chesprah. I think someone killed fucking Zizdyd. But like if you're a smart dude and you're taking stuff like Jack three day and all this stuff and you're going over to Thailand where like steroids are like 150 bucks. You can get them out of pharmacy, no problem. And you can get rid of those heart palpitations and then you go into the sauna. You might, you might myocarditis yourself. - Okay. - So I can see that. Joe Linder, I'll give him the pass because he got vax. He tried to get rid of his blood. Wish I could have taught to him before. Farm protein cleanse. What have I got that shit or what have I got that right? That would have saved Joe Linder's life would have been a better place. And that is what I remember like lifting. We would fuck around. Me and my friends would fuck around. But it was all positive. Like this shit that has happened with like, whatever a co-vicular is and all this. - So I'm with the mogwars. - Not even the mogwars. It was like kind of murphy got in that shit too where dude this shit used to be about picking up your bros. - Well I think he was like mocking it. - I think he was. - Yeah. - He was like playing character like he was on another level mentally dude. - He was. - He's on another fucking planet. I literally couldn't watch this stuff because I also wasn't into the reactions of. There's a thing that he did that wasn't that cool and he would go up to, and I do this is just my Ursula that probably told me not to watch it. He would go up to short dudes in the gym with their girlfriends and take his shirt off next to the short guy and then mog him. - Wait. - And my mom is for the alpha male of the group. - Yes. - So that's not cool to do. - And you can't be when you're a manlet. - No. - There's no way out. So he would go up to them. And that's why I'm saying like. - Imagine like it kills me that it kills me when a guy has all that. - And then does the evil. - We're just like, I don't know. I mean, I know he went down a road of Iowa asking all that stuff, but it's like, dude, we like six three, like some super jacked handsome kid. - Yeah. - And you could have done anything. - Social anxiety, that's what he said he had. - Who doesn't? Try being five six. (laughing) - That's giving me. - Raw dog drink. - Yeah. (laughing) - Like when you're creating that player, that's at a hundred. - Yeah, the slider is all the way up on that. So like, that's what the counter Murphy stuff I didn't get into because it was like reaction videos, weird, mogging stuff. And then he started like drinking calm and tense. - That's the way that I could imagine it is if you were naked. - Being short. - You were like, you were-- - Right? (laughing) - Fucking A. - Right? - Yeah, yeah. - I would imagine it would be similar. - I literally can't say yes or no to that. - I imagine it would be similar. - So being five sex is like being bought ass naked all the time. - Being a six foot three guy to equal that out. - At least a thong. - Whatever. - Yeah. - Maybe not smack out. Like if you're like fucking five foot-- - But you get what I'm saying, right? - Yeah. - That's crazy. - But you get what I'm saying, right? - That's why I don't talk. That's why I don't do this shit. - Like point and laugh with the biting laugh at short people. I don't like doing that shit. So like I never like-- - You might be a different species. - You might have something else in you. It's all good. It doesn't matter. We're still human at the end of the day. But like I never got into the counter-emerphy. I would just watch this video's kind of laugh. You watched the counter-emerphy escaping the body building cult-- - Yeah, at the end. - Where it was like a fucking, and like that's when that was probably 2022, '23 when you got in there. - I don't know, yeah. - And I was like, damn, that's crazy. But like side note, Derek for more plates, more dates was on his fucking jobs. - Yeah, so why did the, what's that about? - I showed you the video where Derek has a fucking toupee on pretty much. He looks like one of the members of the Beatles looks terrorized. - Crazy, crazy. I mean, dude, it's a multi-million day. - You don't like Gorilla Mine, I get it. - Eight inches in the thick, and dude's here. What the fuck, I can make fun of 'em. But he did not like when people were lying on the internet. MPMD was a little above my pay grade. - Wait, Derek doesn't like it? - No, I mean, he exposed Libert, like the reason Libert King, - I mean, yeah, Libert King went crazy, and you're saying Connor went crazy from them too? - He was just on Connor's ass about Nadi or not, and he was coming on the fact that like he's losing his hair and all that stuff, because like dude, like I've told you, everything in this world is-- - That's another thing, womanly. - Yeah, with the look isn't, like, yeah. I mean, that is the general consensus, is that? - Imagine trying to get your jaw chiseled. You've fucked with your hormones to the level of faking and acting like a girl. - You're making putting on makeup makes sense. - Hey dude, guess what? Dude's hair falls out. - That is what it is. - Jason said some say it falls out. - What is the big deal? I don't get it. - Yeah, but chill. - What do you mean chill? - That's like me saying dude, you're five sec, what's the big deal? - No, I'm saying like-- - Dude's dude's out there that leaves the hair and it's fucking came over. - We have to as men though, stay together on that. - Absolutely. - That's what I'm saying, like, I get it. No, I'm not doing that. - Okay, okay. - I'm saying like, yo man, we have to hold-- - Speaking as a full-haired person. - Bro, we have to hold frame on this. This is like, hold the line. - They ripped everyone apart. - They ripped all the dudes apart and now the dudes are sitting there going and getting plastic surgery on their faces. - Yeah. - They didn't take long. It took like, from ziz to fucking clav, dudes are flying to the fucking turkey. - Yeah. - I mean, this is sad. Conor Murphy got a hair transplant with no anesthesia to prove that the mind's powerful. - Right. - So this dude's just fucking crazy, which I'll get into the fucking turkey. - I mean, were they like fucking LBs and-- - They were doing all of it. But like, the reason I had to give you the full background of what I was working with is because like, dude, my train stopped. - But you're saying that Derek got in Conor's crawl over the hair-- - Over the hair and the lying of Nadi. - Right. Because he was like, I'm Nadi, I'm Nadi. - I mean, it's our me losing this hair. - It's me, it's me girls, but like, dude, the only way I could describe Derek for more plates, more dates, because I have the utmost respect for these more. - I have the utmost respect. I mean, I remember tripping my balls off one time and looking over and being like, damn, that dude's big. That's sick that he did that. - Yes, who is Edress Elba and Thor? - Oh yeah, that guy that guards the fucking bridge. - That is Derek for more plates, boys. That dude literally ground up as a genius and taught himself. - Right. - He is the watcher. If you are lying, he will expose you like there's no shit. And dude, he went out, made guerrillas. - He got to know he's out there. - Well, he did, like, he is the most pure form of what every bodybuilder left on the internet is. I would say it's him and Bradley Martin does this gym shit. - Fucking Derek for more plates, more dates, was a fucking missile. Shilled out, got into blood working all that stuff and then made his own supplements and then it's now a multi-millionaire, because he is the dude who watches the, what is the name of that road? - Oh yeah, I need to know the name of that, like, oh my god, the by frost. He controls the by frost when it comes to fucking life. So he was up in Conor Murphy's shit. And that's why like watching the Conor Murphy stuff, like there was so much other better shit than what he was up to, that like, I just wasn't preoccupied with Conor Murphy. It was just like, I would see Derek for more plates, more dates, but I do this guy's drinking piss, this guy's drinking cum. He was also kind of an act job. So like, he was. - Heimdall. - Heimdall. - Yeah, literally, Derek for more plates, more dates, is Heimdall. There's no trying. - Nine sign Rosenbridge. (laughing) - The by frost, man. - The by frost, yeah. That is literally Derek for more plates, more dates. And like, the reason I told you, all of that shit is to let you know like why dudes would be so fucking crazy mentally, 'cause there's people out there who didn't get the heart palitation. There's people out there who pushed the roulette. - It's weird 'cause they're all together and they're like kind of making it normal to themselves. - It's almost like, where would you end up if you took meth, but no one told you we were taking meth. - But from the outside looking in, you're watching them and you're like, this is, these guys are gone. - Yeah. They're fucked up. - They're fucked up. They're in Thailand making hair. - That's what I was trying to explain to you though. Like, I was taking Jack 3D, not knowing that it was meth. So these guys wind up in Thailand with lady boys because they're pretty much on meth and steroids. - All the time. And like, dude, it's weird. - And you would rip like three monsters and have a normal conversation. - 100%. - And it's working. - Yeah. - That's what I'm saying, where like there's no like, they have some problems where like, oh, I might gain two percent body fat, but like, all that shit happens. And like, these dudes don't come onto my radar until Joe Static dies. Joe Static was alive. I wouldn't know who the fuck Tony Hughes was. - Right. - And that's what I fucking got pissed off in perplexity because I asked him if they have any connection and perplexity said no. And my real perplexity, you, was like. - But of course. - They're chilling. He got fucking copper from Tony Hughes. - Yeah, GK, the peptides. - GKU, yeah. - And these guys were on this shit four years ago. And they're doing big ass needles and big ass doses. - The testosterone needles. - Ah. - You can have that dude. I'll have love handles. - Well, I mean, I watched the thing where, I don't know, it was like some more place more days where his sex drive was up and he was still fucking, it was the one you sent me with the fucked up hair. And he was like, dude, I was like, I had libido. He had energy, but his testosterone was zero. - Yes. - Like literally zero. - Yeah, that's like, he was like. - But it's all exogenous. - Yes. So that's what, how are you gonna get off that? - That's why these, this is what I'm saying. Like this is why these guys, I can't say definitely that there's dudes like Leo and longevity who wound up dead in a fucking bathroom. I've never got to that point of the game where I'm on steroids and shit like that, to know how dark it gets. He could have blew a head casket. - Yeah. - Just like McGregor. - I mean, all he could describe to his hell. - All these dudes, they're all together with like, none of them, this is the most unstable packet dudes I saw. I've stumbled upon some packs of dudes on the internet. - Yes. - This is very unstable. - I mean, before this-- - You gotta flee the United States. - I almost forgot everything after watching two dudes explain why male strippers. Cool, I literally almost forgot everything I was gonna tell you. - I was like-- - Let it go, let it go. - It's just a way to be from a two. Not all of them have to have you dead. - Let's go! - But I fucking like get this stuff and I start looking into Tony Hughes. And I was like, damn, this guy seems pretty weird. And John Bravo, who I've watched his videos, I like the shit, like he goes after West Watson, King Azuli, like easy motherfuckers, Larry Wheels. He has all sorts of-- - That's two of them, by the way. - All of them are showing. - Yeah. - I'm an actor. This is a joke. All of this is a lie. I'm telling you this. But I start watching this and I go, "You send me R.A.P. Conor Murphy." Like there's no fucking way. He's faked his death or tried to. - Yeah. - He talked about faking his death. - And they were in nocturnal camp. - Nocturnal camp? - They're making a documentary. - This is neat stuff. But this is good lifting stuff. Maybe I'll share it if I'll lift her, but there's a neat-- - Vigor's seat. - There's almost like a Star Wars fucking thing. I'm not gonna talk about Mandel. But like, I started looking into Tony Huge, but the weirdest, weirdest part is, you send me Tony Huge two weeks ago. - Yeah. - Connor Murphy's still on this fucking plane. He's living, chilling, making videos. - Chillin', doing interviews. - Talking about the fall of Elon Muskular. - Yeah. - And he said-- - And dude, I was just telling somebody about Connor Murphy. What even Matt? - Probably because-- - Because Matt, me and Matt were talking about something and I was like, dude, you gotta check out Connor Murphy. - Yeah, he's fucking-- - And then I just thought I was like, I sent him the RIP thing. - Yeah, so I get a fucking bug up my ass Monday that John Bravo makes an RIP Connor Murphy thing like literally the first dude. And John Bravo, I would hold up as normal. But, two weeks ago, you hit me with Tony Huge. Tony Huge owns Enhanced Labs. Enhanced Labs is John Bravo's sponsor. John Bravo sells shirts that says Pete's a shit. Tony's talking about guys like West Watts and all this stuff. He interviews Tony fucking Huge. And this is rewind, 2023. Leo and Long Javenie living with Tony Huge in Thailand. Tony Huge is in Thailand, openly banging ladymoids. Openly trying to start a hero. Probably heavily in the closet. The real, the real heroim is five dudes at your house. But, Leo and Long Javenie dies at his house. Three days later, Tony Huge shows up. So, I never knew about that. Never knew about any of this shit. You showed it to me and I was like, holy fuck, this is crazy. That a dude died in fucking Tony Huge's house. And this guy is the sponsor of John Bravo, who's the dude who exposes all the creeps. I was like, that's weird. So then I spent the next fucking four days that I'll never get back looking into this stuff. That's why I happened to see this. - Are you home now? - I was like, dude, this is so fucking weird. So the Leo Long Javenie death is weird as fuck. His girlfriend saying nothing adds up. When John Bravo, from three years ago, interviews him, it is the weirdest interview I've ever fucking listened to in my life. Number two is Tony Huge's Conor Murphy death video that happened very soon after. Where he like, constantly says, I was two hours away. Same stuff with this Leo and Long Javenie guy. He rolls out, allegedly was beating on his wife. He goes to Thailand with fucking Tony Huge. - Yeah, so when Leo dies, the first people there on the scene are journalists. - The first. - And so Thailand is not like America. - And here's another thing that you have to differentiate. This is happening in Pataya. - I don't know anything about that hair. - Bangkok is where we go to Thailand. I'm gonna fuck Lady Boyz. You're thinking Bangkok. - Hangover too. - Guess what? You wanna turn that up to 11? Go to Pataya. Pataya is even worse than Bangkok. And it's like, it is not good. It's like even Hornier, even Cedar, all that stuff. Like if you wanna be a fucking upstanding citizen, you go to Bangkok. - Yeah, there's a clip I saw of Tony Huge. - It's like Tijuana. - Yeah, there's a clip where Tony Huge was like, if you give me a couple of days, I can change your whole mind. - Yeah. - And I can break your Western thought and show you what the world could be. And I was listening to this and I was like, dude, this is MK Ultra. This guy's like injecting people with stuff. They're already been doing methods and stuff. They've never had like a real sober day. - No, they're always on something. And that's what happens when you get into the wheel of like all this shit. You start having to like take stuff to counterbalance everything and then after a while, you're beholden to a dude like Tony Huge. - That's what biohacking is. - Yeah, or you feel suicidal. - You're just making speedballs. - All the drugs are just, ends up just speedball. - Yeah, so like, that's where I go all the way back. I listen to that and I go, damn, that's weird. Leo Longe, every stuff, it's a whole fucking thing you can look into where like this dude, he was like bringing out like gold standard reviews of like certain stuff like mitochondrial health and stuff that literally does not matter. It's crazy that dudes watch that shit and are like fucking 15, 20% body fat. (laughing) It's crazy guys. Like, if I'm a mitochondria, it has to get stronger. It's like, yeah, it's like you are fucking up there on the body fat.