Best Of The Render Farm (Compilation)

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They can be expensive. - They can be mobile games. - Expensive? - They can be, but it's not mobile games. I want to build a render farm. - That's not as exciting as you're trying to make it seem. - Well, come on! - I am personally, I do think that's interesting 'cause I'm interested exactly at what the infrastructure for that is and how you said that. But like to normal people, that's an even tougher sell than lenses. I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest. - Oh, come on! - I'm gonna let you cook here only because I filled up my Synology the other day. I've had it for, I don't know, 10 years. I've had it for a very long time. And it's got 30 terabytes of storage. Last night I went to transfer some files. It's full up. - Damn. - So if you've got space for me, Mark, I'm in. - Yeah, so I think, Wade, you'll like this because you know when I was doing that whole hard drive stint, which people forgot about when the lenses took over, but I was doing a hard drive thing there for a bit. - Yeah, when you were thunderstruck, whatever it was called. - Yes, exactly, Thunderbolt. So I built a server that has 400 terabytes of storage, right? 'Cause I was like, I'm gonna future-proof this. I had to win a whole hard drive kick. I got some. I got some refurbished hard drives. If there's one thing I love is that doing these hobbies and trying to find a good deal for them, 'cause it's so expensive, a lot of these things. So I always try to find the good deal for it. So I bought refurbished hard drives. And in every way, that's a big no, no, no, don't do that. But it just so happened in a specific situation that I did this, there was some cryptocurrency that was based on hard drive space. I talked about before, yada, yada, yada. But Renderfarm is different because it's extremely difficult to get server infrastructure at a cheap price unless you just so happen to be in an era where everyone with a data center is replacing their hardware with this new fancy AI bullshit hardware. And they're throwing everything out at incredible discounts. And you can find the most amazing server hardware ever on eBay for steep discounts. - Okay, how much is a steep discounted 400 terabyte? - Oh, you're not gonna like this. - I'm talking. - This is like 50% plus discounts, right? How much is a 4090 right now, right? Forty nine. - Couple grand, isn't it? - 2200 bucks or something. - 4090s right now is like two grand. Like around that, it's still very expensive. You can get some things with a 4090 in it. An entire CPU, RAM, like power supply, motherboard, case, all this shit for $2,400. So 400 more than the card and a 4090 in there. More than the card itself for the entire fucking computer. With an NVM, two terabyte NVME, it's got 64. Look at the, even my camera agrees. - What the shit is, why is that happening? Why is there a thumbs up on your face? - It's just so positive. You can get all that for $2,400. And that's still a lot of money. But you talk about getting the computer with the 4090 in it for that. Now here's the real kicker. That's just. - Keep talking. - That's just domestic level computer hardware, right? At steep discounts. - Uh-huh. - At steep discounts. 'Cause now is a better time than ever in the history of forever to get a computer because there are so many companies that are trying to clear shit out to get this new shit in. - What do I search for on eBay for this? Give me some keywords. - What you wanna look up on eBay is you wanna find, you wanna find the specific server grade processor that you want because what's happening is all these companies realize they need GPUs right now. So actually GPU deals are hard to come by for workstation level graphics, but you can still get good deals because people are still trading out computers. But you can get like 64, 96, 128 core processors in their server chassis with all, with like a terabyte of RAM. I don't even know what you would do with a terabyte of RAM for like 80% off of the cost. And they are perfectly functional, very modern, like only a year or two old. But because every company in existence is trying to get rid of what they have and replace it with these bigger GPUs, you can get like GPU based servers with like eight GPUs in them. You can get, you can get the craziest shit. You can get the craziest shit for so much less. There's processors out there that are like $12,000. You can get, you can get two of them. You can get two of them for like a 25% of the price, which is a lot. I haven't bought these, but this is why I'm like, now is the greatest time in the history of forever to build a render farm. - I wanna see your half a million dollar server set up. - You don't need to spend half a million dollars. - Half a million dollars. - What was I just telling you? - I don't know, I had left. - Oh yeah, you weren't here. Where did you go? - I had important business to take care of. - I'm with you, Mark. I see what you're laying down. - Yeah, you see what I'm laying down? You see? - Well, so what? You're gonna buy, well, you're gonna lease space and just buy a bunch of secondhand servers and set up a render farm thing for cheap for people to use? - No, just do it in my garage. If I have to lease space, that's gonna cost more money. But if I do in my garage, where's the cargo? - I don't, my car hasn't been in my garage for a year, man. - Yeah, I mean, you know he had movie set in there and stuff or whatever. - Yeah, I have a whole set in there. But once that's gone, now that movie's done, I have space for everything. And I put air conditioning in there because filming in there in the summer was such a pain because it wasn't air conditioned. So I put an oversized air conditioner in my garage so I can have a server rack in my garage. - I can't believe you filmed a whole movie in your garage. I didn't realize that. - I picked up a lot of shots in my garage. I was basically talking about it for the past year, wasn't I? - He did talk a lot about that, yeah, I feel like. - Huh, that's crazy. - That's crazy. You know what, Mark, points to, I don't know, someone. - So I want to build a render farm. I want to get some sweet deals on some sweet computers and put them into my garage. And I'm sure that buying this shit off of eBay is definitely reliable. - Well, so you're saying eBay, these companies aren't going out of business, but they still probably like offload these to just like wholesalers or something, right? Can you go to like in-person auctions where the stuff would be even cheaper, probably? - For sure. I haven't scratched the surface. I haven't scratched the surface of where these sales are. I've only really just started looking and finding like incredible deals. If anybody knows the secret ends of where to get this shit for the cheapest prices, put it on the subreddit. Let me know about it. I'm about to start a rendering revolution because online render services cost way too much. And if I can do it from home, because I got solar panels, so I don't even need to pay for the electricity, okay? - Man, if we have a zombie apocalypse, you're going to be able to film movies from your house. - You're crazy. - Mark's never going to have to stop making content. - Yeah, one can only hope, one can only hope. Anyway, that's my small talk. - My latest hobby, have I told you guys about it? - Yes. - Render farm. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - Render farm, render farm. - My main man, Tugum4470. You're the real, you're the real, real. You get me the best discounts on possibly good server hardware. - I'm sure they're all. - I haven't even gotten it yet. I'm sure it's great. - Where are they coming from? - Shenzhen, China. - Well, isn't that where all electronics come from? - I feel like that's going into possibly prejudiced territory, but keep going. - Honestly, there's just like the manufacturing in Shenzhen is like every piece of technology. - Where was the place where the glycine factory was? - Medical grade glycine? - Medical grade glycine, did you hear about this? - Of course not, it's me. - On TikTok, there was a huge trend where there was this nonstop talk about medical grade glycine. And there was this one. - What's glycine? - Tick tock, tick tock. - What's glycine? - I don't know. - I don't know. And I don't know what it's for. I just know that medical grade glycine was very important. there's there's certain things that you can do and cg is like computer graphics a lot of it comes down to rendering but there's there's a whole world of like art there that i know i'll never fully get i won't be an expert at it but at least the technology side is like okay for the sake of rendering i can render and i can figure out how to do that i can build a render farm right i know how to build a computer because i've done it before i've done it for you i look into it like a server can't be that different and so this is where my brain goes it goes from one to the other i have a basis of knowledge this is a problem that i'm facing i think i can figure out puzzle away to a solution using my knowledge you never have any like desire to do that my knowledge is to socially outreach and find someone else who can solve my problem i was going to go into the spiel of all the hardware that i've come back to and talking about that and talking about the latest thing that's going to make people so mad about me talking about it i can't wait for people to be pissed off is it a render farm you can't say that word in front of him render farm did render farms kill his family yeah probably i'm gonna go with yes you ever swallow and immediately know you did it wrong and you're fucked did you just do that unrelated to me saying the word render farm or was that completely unrelated i was just taking a sip and my body was like i should breathe that i've been building my render farm i'm a render farm expert i'm i'm an expert you're still on about that i've discovered the magic that is blown fuses again uh so it turns out computers draw a lot of power they a lot of power and so for those that aren't aware that even just running one computer all day long is an incredible draw of power it's like running a microwave constantly so uh one of the things that i'm i'm looking into is getting uh power into my house like figuring out the power system i'm trying to get like a better battery backup but i i was doing something yesterday that i i was okay so i was up on my roof right and i realized how cosmically stupid what i was doing was i climbed up on the roof and i called for amy amy and i was like can you pass me the hose so she throws me the hose and there i am standing on my roof watering my solar panels because they're dirty and encrusted with grime but i just like i just was like standing there and thinking about it as this like wonderful era that we live in with all this technology and able to just grab electricity out of the air with solar panels and there i stand with a garden hose being like this will fix it got it well if you want to grow your solar farm you've got to water it yeah that's true that's true it just it just felt so dumb it was halfway but then i i thought you were gonna tell you were cleaning out your gutters or something i was not expecting the twist of watering your solar panel no no because i could understand like cleaning out the gutters and what i should have done is i i have a ryobi power washer and what's great about it is it has a hose attachment on it but my hose isn't long enough and i didn't have the battery charge and i was just like let me go up see what they are and they looked pretty crusty were you using the solar panel attachment for the hose shut up you know they actually make a ryobi solar panel cleaner it's basically the same as a power washer but it's designed to work way better on solar panels yeah because that stuff is crusty because i got done i wash it off and i you know i felt like i was playing power wash simulator because i didn't have enough pressure because i had one of those little handles but i didn't have enough pressure you know at the distance the wind alone was beating me uh so i got done everything was wet and i i thought i washed it thoroughly i saw some gunk runoff and by the time i got to the end i went back to the beginning and the beginning was dry it was just as dusty it was like super like just as crusted over couldn't see a single cell and i'm like damn it uh so i bought amy bought a big mop with a big handle so today i'm gonna go and mop my solar panels if people out there want to know what the celebrity is doing i'm gonna go and mop my solar panels i'm gonna go and mop my solar panels is like it is mopping your solar panels on your room so yeah that's what i get to look forward to um and so i i'm realizing that with all of this uh computer power that man i uh i um yeah things are going good things are going real good i have all the parts assembled there but i realized that i got the wrong uh case for it because i'm not building a server rack i'm basically just building a few computers for for my houdini render farm um but i got the wrong case size because you know it's been a while since i built a computer i used to always do it and then i kind of fell into um people doing the custom water cooling solutions because i was like i don't really want to fiddle with all that so i'd rather get it from a company that's gonna do it but for these for these things like the prices are so stupid for like business level stuff that's why businesses don't make any sense i don't know how businesses ever make money when they pay like business prices for things because you got like home internet you pay home internet it can be like up to a hundred dollars for good internet and that's that's pricey a business internet line seems like a lot of money starts in the thousands and i'm like wait a minute where does this jump occur why why is this but that's just what businesses pay for they just do that and and other people charge businesses like these exorbitant rates and it's like it doesn't make any sense because the price of these these big workstation computers from a from a pre-built manufacturer like there's a markup for pre-built computers for consumer level hardware what should be like a ten thousand dollar computer if you bought all the parts in a very good computer someone will mark up up to fifty thousand dollars it's for for the entire thing to be assembled if you look at some of the higher end workstations it doesn't make any sense so i'm building it myself again because i've done that before and it's not much different um but i got the wrong case because it's an ss this is ssi dash eeb motherboard not an eatx motherboard and even though the case says it's etx and the motherboard i bought was listed as atx have you tried the eat ass motherboard but what if we had in our movie theater we had a land area we had a little pods where people could do like if they wanted to record youtube videos or stream or something we had little rooms segmented off where there was like one computer with a camera already set up and a light already set up and also all those computers are part of my render farm yes and we can farm bitcoin while they play no no no that's not you can't do it on normal hardware that's not an efficient way to get bitcoin you not with that attitude oh that's why you're the handsome one ah so you want to give me bitcoin you want to give me bitcoin you want to give me bitcoin you just don't know it maybe i don't know i don't know what to believe anymore with you but right isn't that a great idea it's the best idea no well i mean i do of little things that i've been working on but you know i don't want to i don't want to bog anyone down with my really cool ideas and things is it lenses and or render farm the lemonati has spent decades keeping lemon on top and lime in the shadows their lemon agenda has infiltrated everything even our music that hit song named after the color of lemons not a coincidence big lemon has been pulling strings in the industry for years think about it but now seven up is fighting back with their new lime lemon soda now lime comes first seven up flip the sip no no no maybe you'd actually appreciate it maybe actually appreciate it because it's only adjacent to it i i really don't know what to do with it i don't know what to do with it i don't know what to i want i'm trying to get back into water cooling so when you're building a computer and this this applies to people out there you have you can have the option of water cooling components and it's kind of like a it's a higher level way of building a computer but it can yield like a lot better results than just air cooling because if you have a bunch of fans in your computer the computer that i built for you was air cooled you know um it wasn't water cooled there was just like a big old air cooler on it i think unless i did put it in a probably had an aio didn't it i that one with the thread ripper was the last one that i i built there oh maybe not no maybe not yeah i have no idea but either way i've been getting into water cooling again because there's a lot of really funky new developments in the world of water cooling and i've really wanted to try immersion cooling have you guys heard of this i have actually no so immersion cooling is literally what it sounds like you take your whole computer and you stick it in a liquid you go and that's okay for it that's okay for it's so good for it actually it has to be the right kind of liquid yeah yeah yeah it can't just be spit or piss or something like that yeah um so you you get a special fluid that's called dielectric fluid it's non-conductive so that when it's in there it's not gonna like zap because the thing is water pure water is actually not very conductive it's the impurities in water that cause it to become conductive and that can cause it to short out and then it'll go could bloom so you need a pure whatever this fluid is you can't have like dust getting in it or anything like that it takes some cleaning required and there's some extra things but the way you can do is you can take your whole computer really dense like get the density way up and stick it in a in a vat of fluid and it'll circulate the fluid and it'll cool all the components in it right do you run the computer while it's in there yeah okay go on expound so it's dielectric so the fluid is entirely non-conductive so all of your your plugs and stuff in the computer you power plug it's in there you know it's it's powered it's got all the peripherals in there this is usually for data centers and stuff like that but there are people that you know their home computer they basically get a fish tank right and they just put their whole they build their whole motherboard and stuff inside the fish tank and then they fill it up with this fluid and you'll see it it's pretty cool i can actually pull up like uh because i'm picturing like your tower you just shove it in a kiddie pool and then all the wires and stuff it's like does it just like bend up to come out of the tank or they're like how do you turn it on if it's in the tank how do you keep it from getting impure it's real tricky but this is it okay so like the tank is also the tower it's not like the tower in a tank the tank is also the tower so this one is trickier i think this one is at a higher risk of problems because the top is open right so you see the cables going in to the top the back of the motherboard is at the top of this fish tank that's in front of everyone and so the plugs go in the top now the problem with this is dust and impurities can get into the fluid this way it's not sealed off ideally you want something that's more sealed and the other issue here is there's probably not as much circulation i think this is it's uh it's just more of a kind of a funny build that actually looks like a fish tank but in industrial applications you put your entire server rack inside this fluid you can get the density up you just need it to circulate things and it's weird it's super weird to look at your mind goes like that's not right but it works it works and it works well it cools things really efficiently how pure are the rocks in the fruity pebble oh essential essential for that yeah you want your 90s ass color scheme glow in the dark rocks at the bottom so that you can really get all the gaming juice out of your components yeah so i'm looking into this and i'm probably going to break some things for a computer or for a server size stuff for server size stuff but the problem is you know everything server size takes a premium so i'm trying to like see if i if i just get a big enough you know horse drinking trough if i do that how annoying is this to change out like let's say a part fails you have to replace a part pull it out you shake it off a bit i mean it's about as annoying as like you can imagine it is it's it's literally dunked in a fluid that's probably slightly toxic but like can you put your impure fingers in this liquid to replace the whole liquid no you should wear like gloves and stuff ideally you know you're doing this in a very professional way but you know i'm not the most professional person i mean uh they make like filtration systems there must be a type of filtration that you could use to filter your dielectric juice is it expensive is dielectric liquid water whatever because it's a special thing right you don't really buy it in 50 gallon barrels you buy it in you know smaller containers than that you know like paint where they have that special paint that's so dark it's like only 0.1 reflectivity sure that is very expensive but you can get black paint that is like two percent reflectivity still extremely dark for way cheaper than that right it's the same with these fluids some people have proprietary fluids that are crazy expensive that they have patents on and they sell because it's that much better at non-conductiveness or non-cooling or cooling capacity or something like that and so these companies want to sell them at premiums but you can get there is dielectric fluid that you can get that will not be as expected as expensive that's not cool so if everything blows up a lot of my things seem to like have a risk high risk of electrocution and explosions but that's how you know you're really really starting to get somewhere you're also starting to push your your drowned man saga on yourself because like you're power washing on your roof and now you're getting liquid on your computer you're starting to really toy with liquid and as someone who deals with liquid it's a dangerous game i had a crazy idea to what if i pumped air through my pool you know because i thought linus you know when he did his pool cooling for his whole server where he ran tubes his problem was that he did liquid cooling underneath the pool i'm like what if you just pump air through the pool and then blow that air in and you got a cheap air conditioner right yeah yeah yeah sure yeah yeah is there okay perpetual not perpetual energy what if is there a way that you you know how your water has is pressurized right so you got water what if what if i have my water pipe i build an illegal extension to go up really high have it pour onto a giant water wheel that's going to generate electricity but at the bottom of it i just have it pump back into the pipe where it came out of that way the water company never knows they never know yeah no they have they don't have anything for that they have no idea that's how it works right i just have the open pipe at the bottom it just it funnels right back in it would work i just put the negative pressure terminal yeah i just put it in reverse yeah like i have some questions about it but i'm just going to not ask them and assume you're correct this episode is brought to you by t-mobile 5g home internet you already know the t-mobile 5g home internet is ridiculously easy to set up with a price that doesn't feel like you're getting scammed every month but here's something new worth noting t-mobile now is the fastest 5g home internet according to the experts at ucla speed test no seriously their 5g home internet speeds are officially the 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experiments with these computers as i try to build up what am i do so i had five computers running and for weeks now they've been running fine they've been working perfectly i've actually you know done some experimentation with underclocking you know or uh undervolting the graphics cards yada yada it doesn't matter two nights ago or yesterday morning rather i woke up all five computers that i had running were offline all five of them and i'm like well that's strange not a one of them i load up each one of them i load up the first one and i discover oh the boot drive is corrupted it cannot boot can't boot windows it does it's self diagnostics all the hardware is fine it can't boot windows can't boot at all it can't even find the boot drive so i load up the next one two of five same thing boot drive corrupted and here's the thing i don't know if me even talking about this is painting a big target on my back oh it definitely is but i'm going to keep talking about it because it's just fascinating all offline at this point third one same deal same exact problem boot drive corrupted fourth one boot drive corrupted fifth one boot drive is corrupted what time was this that that you found this i don't know what time they all went offline because i couldn't find any logs or anything like that i didn't have anything robust to set them up these were just render notes they didn't have anything on them they were just running two pieces of software basically is all they were running so they were technically connected to the internet i didn't even have monitors connected to them so i had you know i i was remoting into them just to even get there but i had to like i have a little like clamshell kvm so i can plug into them and see what's going on and i'm like that's super weird what are the odds that five computers in different parts of my house all running the same software but also other computers in my house were running this software as well all of the only the dell ones shut down and got corrupted can i pause it positive theory here yeah what's up okay do you remember the story we just told the bird and the chipmunk wizard theory okay what did we talk about yesterday on podcast we were recording talked about adele and boots go on and now your adele's won't boots oh okay i'm just saying put the tinfoil hats on because uh what day did that issue occur oh yeah during the adele boots day bob gave one hint all day you know what that hint was boots whoa whoa whoa that doesn't imply that this is my fault somehow remember that song never mind i will find a render farm like you adele all right so this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird this is very weird my only guess is that it was some type of malware that somehow got into the computers and again this like maybe painting a big target on my back i have no idea but something got into the computers and corrupted the boot drive it's very easy to cause these things to become unstable if you like delete system 32 or something like that you can basically render a whole computer by doing that and it would just cause a bunch of problems it wouldn't it would not be able to boot anymore it wouldn't be able to repair itself i'm not saying doing that would do that but you know a lot of things can be done that just doesn't have a lot of value to the malicious party other than your up i guess yeah i i have no idea either so i reach out to like dell customer service and i knew something was wrong when i was being answered by the dell social media team which was a little strange but i'm hoping that that's dell's customer service on the social media team and i go through this all day i'm like this is weird right can you help me find figure out why this is happening i was like okay let's troubleshoot it so they run me around for hours and hours doing all these troubleshooting tasks that i keep saying like yeah i've done the basics i've done your diagnostics there's nothing wrong with the hardware and then it goes on and on they keep leading my like you're going to find out why this happened right like no let's just do the next step you're going to find out why this happens right let's just do the next step we're going to find out what happens right all right create a thumb drive with a windows installation on it and i'm thinking in my head i'm doing anything to not do this because if i format that drive any evidence that of what happened on that computer is going to be erased or become much harder to find if i do a fresh install of windows on it and i keep asking them like this and they're like please just do the next step we are going through this this is the process we need to get it i'm like okay and so i reinstall it do that and then i tell them like okay i'm in windows now what and they're like great let us know if there's any problem keep an eye on it have a good day and i'm like you you sons of you had no intention of finding out what went wrong with it at all i was like just take this computer back and look at have have comp there's such a thing as computer forensics you can look into the hard drive and find out some logs you can dig in there and you can but they had no desire to do any of that they were never going to do it and they struggled they struggled they struggled they struggled they struggled they struggled they me along the entire time did you do all five or did you say do you have any that are still no i only did one okay i only did one because i have all five with the same problem but they would not admit they would not admit that five going offline for the same reason all independently of each other wasn't weird right and they kept saying like it's just like a random software corruption i'm like you gotta be kidding me the odds of random software corruption occurring across five machines at the same time is statistically most likely improbable or not impossible and nothing's impossible but whatever it seems much more likely that this is some kind of security vulnerability that was exploited or something like that and it's only these it's my other computers are fine only these what's up with that it was kind of brilliant now they've got you as a complicit party and covering up the evidence so if you do get a forensics specialist they're going to see that you covered up one of the five the what what crime is being okay i don't know man but it's pretty bad if dell's uh getting you involved in the cover-up you're right and they got the social media team involved so that way the moment you try to say anything they're like they've already got the posts ready markiplier covers up corruption at dell you're right inside job that's it that's it that's the one that's it and look it's like i know what can they do all i wanted was them to just escalate it to the next level of being like yeah this is weird enough maybe you should look into this it's probably nothing it's probably something like as i was running them like it was some port was not forwarded correctly in the computers it allowed someone to get in or a virus to get in i'm not saying this was like a specific attack it just seems like this is malware riding across the software for the render farm thing that i was using that allowed uh like some piece of malware to get in deleted a system thing and boop all the thing go yeah it's more likely that that happened but it's also worth exploring i can't use these computers if that's possible that was my point to them is like i can't rely on these to do what i need them to do if there is something like that in them i don't think it's the software i'm using because i'm using it across my other computers but maybe again i mean it might be i like a driver compatibility where it's the software and some specific thing in the dell machines and they all have it because they're all the same machine or something but yeah exactly no it's weird to corrupt the boot disk like that is like not what would normally happen is they would just blue screen and then you could you could get it to post and maybe it would reinstall or whatever but like yeah i'm not an expert but as far as i know that's a much weirder outcome yes yeah that's not something where it's like whoopsie doodles and then your whole boot drive is just corrupted that's a different kind of issue it's very strange you guys are basing the too much stuff on facts here i think bob's earlier theory about the wizard chipmunk he's trying to get his revenge because you caught him like practicing his bird which wasn't perfect so he's like half chipmunk and then he fully went chipmunk and he's like fine i just won't even be a bird fuck this guy it is strange and then he followed you home as a chipmunk and attacked your to get back at you i did think i was almost positive that when i first saw that bird it was a chipmunk first that's what i saw in my mind i might have seen a shape-shifting chipmunk i think bob was originally right just a glitch in the matrix here let me give you let me give you a wade solution here hang on okay i'm ready all right mark i know how to solve this problem it's not the dell computers themselves what you need is a costco size jug of lighter fluid and then a lighter to light the lighter food and then what you do is you take all of your computers and you put them in a small area small enough where you could draw a circle on the ground around them in lighter fluid and you want to use like the whole bottle like as much as you can you might need multiple bottles i don't even know but you basically want all of the wires all of the networking stuff all of the computers all inside this circle and before you turn them on to do anything you light the lighter fluid so you've got a wall of fire around all of your computers those are important to protect you i know this about technology the firewall will keep you safe mark i've heard of this mythical firewall i've got an alternate okay wizards are sometimes like the male equivalent of witches and we know from even dating back to like the 1940s or even earlier witches don't like water so if you pour water on each machine you'll melt the witch out of them oh oh okay i have a pool could i just throw them in the pool yeah in theory yeah okay all right cool no you know what mark you were telling us about how you wanted to do water computers in water right you were talking about that we talked about that what you do is you put the computers in the pool is because you said the water needed to be a special kind it needed to be thick or something get a bunch of the leftover thicket that you have from redacted get a get a bathtub filled with thick water and then just submerge all the computers in there that'll melt the witch out and keep it out plus then they'll be real cool because of what you were saying about water cooling yeah you you listened or get a snake big enough to eat a chipmunk or a small bird because clearly that's that way if the wizard comes back it's ready to be gobbled up that's good defense that's great if you could find a species of snake that can survive underwater you could combine some of these solutions that's true too if you can find a fire that can burn underwater are you jotting these down for later yeah yeah i'm really really keeping track of everything that we're doing today i appreciate that well that's i really appreciate you guys helping me out and i appreciate being able to write about something else someone out there is like oh my god mark is under attack i need to get him a message don't totally happen yeah yeah definitely anyway glauber salt g l a u b e r apostrophe s glauber salt remember the name it's gonna change the world how so well that's what for us to discuss just chucking it out there glauber salt i feel like generating heat is not as much of an issue in the world as dissipating heat and avoiding excess heat generation is yes yes go on go on well this doesn't seem to well because glauber salt used in like heat exchangers or something like what are we talking about like is this almost almost so here's the thing you boil water you put your glauber salt in it and that mixture alone creates a concoction that would freeze at 90 degrees fahrenheit that's scientifically true but that doesn't mean it's cold now now here's the thing if you add regular table salt to your mixture you will lower the freezing point of that mixture same way as if you put salt on ice it'll start to melt because the freezing point is now lower than what it should be you can if you put a certain ratio into it i don't remember it off the top of my head you can create a mixture that will freeze at 70 degrees fahrenheit exactly what most people might consider room temperature and if you put xanthan gum it'll turn into a gel so that it's easier to you know handle than just like pure liquid and then you have a gel like a gel pack that'll freeze at 70 degrees and what that takes advantage of is the fact that phase change it's called a phase change material it has it takes so much more energy to get it to change its phase than it does to get it moving a degree so it'll stay at 70 degrees way longer and all this circles back to the concept of my render farm so i figured if i make enough of this shit and stuff my render farm full of it it'll stay at 70 degrees because there's so much ice but warm ice glauber's ice so i don't know enough about thermodynamics to like really contribute to this but what you're saying sounds right so basically what you're saying is you would you would put all this stuff where the the phase change point is right about 70 degrees it would constantly be in and out of phase like it would be kind of part liquid part frozen because the the racks would generate heat so they would heat but then the phase change of all the glauber's out salt solution goop it would extract but they're put but glauber's out is still still a poor thermoconductor right so would it really when mixed with water it becomes as good of a thermoconductor as water is so by itself so here's the thing right the weird thing about 70 degree phase change material is if you think of the world we live in at night it usually gets below 70 degrees most places even in the desert it can get down because of the temperature of the sun it can't get down because the sun is not shining and it's cold it will freeze overnight if it's in an environment where it can for free anyway glauber's salt is cheap so the thing is if i get an industrial cook thing pot an industrial boiler pot i mean the industrial boiler probably implies that it's a very large pot for boiling stuff i don't know hey siri what's a kitchen so mark if glauber's salt is such a magical cheap material that is so simple to implement why hasn't anyone else done this well i don't know that's fair i don't know what it is about it but ever since i heard about glauber's salt i can't stop thinking about it and it's not even that it's the glauber's salt really it's like i don't know if there's a name for the mixture of what it is afterwards but that's science like you can do the science i just need to figure out a way to make a 422 kilograms of it i think the thing for me that i'm sticking on is the point is not i'm with you that it freezes at a such a high temperature that basically freezes for free but then it's a solid right yeah or it's a it's a goof anyway the way water the way water cooling works is the heat is not dissipated just because water absorbs heat it's dissipated because water absorbs heat and then is cycled away from the electronics yeah but that's not what i'm doing if i put it in the room and then put a fan on it and blow the air but you're but but heat heat saturation is a thing the whole the whole thing will if you don't shut down server farms overnight do you Part of the point is they sort of run 24/7. Is there a downtime? it'll be fine are these like you change out the glauber salt packs or something with no no that'd be too heavy no so mark what if you make your glauber salt solution your high high freezing point solution with mineral oil and then you submerge your stuff in a glauber salt mineral oil tank so that then you don't have to cycle it the phase change occurs and as the heat builds up the phase changes out but then it cut like it freezes it's like an expanding contracting water cooling rig i love that and i think that's incredible however i feel like it would mess up with the freezing point if it was mixed in mineral oil yeah i have no idea what the freezing point of mineral oil actually is i don't know how that's different i know it's not water so what i was going to do is i'm going to make it an evaporative cooler so i'm going to mcmaster car and i'm going to buy a bunch of duct work and i'm going to get some ventilation fans and it's going to build a little evaporative cooler and the cool air from there is going to blow over the glauber salt mixture and i'm going to have a heat exchanger inside there that's going to be like basically encapsulated by all of the glauber salt mixture and then some working fluid running through that going to another heat exchanger inside the the render farm room and a fan on that blasting all of that delicious cold free air conditioning baby well not free it costs a lot to build it and all that stuff yeah so it's it's essentially uh a normal water cooling setup with extra stuff that's definitely going to go wrong it's glauber salt it's glauber salt you gotta have faith in the glauber are you getting custom like heat sink blocks for all each of your little chipsets and cards and things or are you just sort of setting it near it no i'm not you you keep thinking about a slather my electronics and glauber salt no it's air it's just air okay it's just air circulation you're just using the salt solution to cool the air to a crisp it's a it's a cold battery it's a battery of coldness but room temperature coldness how is small for you guys how's it been you know how it be every day another failure every day i rise grind fall flat on my ass this render farm is never happening i swear to god everything i've tried i i fuck you not it is not going good i thought i knew computers i've assembled three different computers let me just say don't buy cheap shit on ebay half of it doesn't fucking work oh no you don't have any support you don't have any backup you can't return it because it's coming from a city i can't even pronounce and then late the latest adventure was in my adventures with water cooling right i've never built a water-cooled computer with a custom loop before but i was like hey i went to engineering school i can do this and i i set up everything i made sure that i actually got parts that i could verify like accounts still on ebay still discounted but there was like someone i could communicate with and i got parts and then i sourced all of my water cooling stuff from a company that's actually here in la who was very helpful i asked for a lot of advice and they gave me guidance and i put it all together and i turned it on and i started filling the reservoir with liquid and i'm i go through two bottles and i'm like wow the guy only said i need one this is a thirsty machine and when i get through the second bottle this pump just keeps chugging this liquid i'm like damn it's going and then i finally notice it's a clear liquid so i know it's so dense with components that i didn't notice the entire bottom of the case is swimming in the fluid somewhere in the loop there was a catastrophic leak and it was just gushing so it would go through the pump you never occur to you that at no point did it start coming in the return to the reservoir you didn't you know now that i'm thinking about that it should have been obvious but i never built one before so i was like wow this is crazy so you doubled the amount it recommended you were just man this is thirsty that was your thought i don't know the server right now i took all the electrical components out of it besides the power supply i just so happened to grab the power supply that was makes a clicking sound with the fan like i don't know what kind of trailer all of my shit fell off of that i bought don't buy discount shit on ebay it's not worth it it's not going to be worth it it won't it's so many nightmares i've wasted so much money i should just trust this company because holy shit well i just gave you points for the drowned farm also for listeners out there he pointed to a shirt that says steiger dynamics yeah steiger dynamics oh you like the listeners now and what's what sucks also is like i've been i've been doing this i i run into all these little problems so this is actually a 4090 he's holding a 4090 it's a 4090 graphics card that i have unmounted from its previous cooler and put this nice thin one slot cooler right it's one slot that's what it's it says there's only one it'll muscle wide it's no it's one slot this son of a bitch is not one slot by two millimeters it was all everyone said this was a one slot cooler the company that made it then came out with another for this exact board the reference board that this is a more expensive one that is actually one slot and i contacted them and i said hey is this available and they said yes but you have to order a minimum of a hundred jesus christ a hundred i said i didn't respond i don't know what you're talking about i don't know if you want to buy one of these if i may ask the 4090 themselves are fairly expensive so this is i mean the one slot one the one slot thing i got for uh this thing was a hundred and i believe 60 plus tax and something like that so 160 bucks for the cooling block itself but if you know a 4090 it goes from a three slot card down to one and i was like that which would be awesome it would be awesome if it fucking did the thing that it said well if you buy a hundred of them it will you're right i sure will the solution is to buy more stuff mark then the new stuff you buy will work probably and if it doesn't then you could just go buy other new stuff and that'll be the stuff that works and it's like all of this is an attempt to save money everything i've done is an attempt to save money i have lost so much money well i haven't lost it right because i could sell this again and that's fine it's just work to do that the the other computer that all crashed at once dell also extremely unhelpful and then the episode that where i talked about came out suddenly they wanted to help so badly and i'm just like interesting whatever guys hey you can't have eggs without breaking a few eggs yeah so i can technically sell this and this is still useful to to people it's still useful to me like it's still like okay you can put this in a loop this still works fine yeah that's a normal 4090 right that's not like a like a workstation one or something like that yeah that's a normal 4090 right that's not like weird where it won't won't do video games or normal computer shit perfectly normal 4090 and and actually i could probably sell it for more than i i paid for it because i've modified it in a way that's valuable yeah with the water block that's actually pretty sweet but just so you know anybody if i sell it it's not one slot only if your slot's two millimeters too thin like mark slots right when you get girthier slots have you got the wrong slots mark why don't you just increase the gap a little bit i'll just stretch my motherboard out a little i don't really have a story to tell other than we're so back baby buying random computer parts off of ebay is the success boy to do everything you know how i said that it wasn't it is it we're back in oh shit we're so back we're so back because i have not had one success wait that sounds bad i have had not just one success i have not had one success not a single goddamn success oh i've not had a single i've had a double i have now two functioning dual processor computers that i built myself one of which is right here and i'm gonna show you guys i'm so excited for this oh my god this is one of them jesus christ that's enormous they're so portable mark is lifting up a very large looking computer for the listeners it looks like he stuffed a wig inside oh wow that's that's one of them that's large that slides into our server rack of some port some yeah so it's a server uh case it doesn't seem to be plugged into anything how do you know it works i plugged it in before i just don't have it on right now because in this room if i have both it and this computer on it'll blow a circuit oh fun how many how many did you build total so far two uh this one is dual off ebay are those like xenon processors or whatever like server ones yeah so these are they're actually these ones uh right here so these oh i got these for like less than 10 of the price of what they retail for i don't know how and i don't care i'll just wait two weeks when they stop working again no no didn't you build like five of these and you had to send them to stigian i'm sorry what to look at them you were like help me are you trying to say steiger dynamics our computer uh company god fucking damn it dude i hate words yeah that's it didn't they didn't they help yeah they're helping okay So is this a separate computer or one of the ones they looked at? This is a separate one. Yeah, so we're working in tandem. I'm just trying to follow the timeline. Yeah, so what else I did? The second one, I have an 8 GPU server out in my storage. There was no way that I could fit 8 4090s unless I change the cooling block, right? So what I've been doing is I've been putting these water cooling blocks on them. The ones that were like two millimeters too thick or whatever it was? Yeah, those are too thick. But it's not too thick for that one. Water cooling that whole thing would take a whole thing. So what I realized is the actual 4090 I have, if you take off the fan off the top of it, the actual radiator is less than two slots. There's no fans on it, but it's less than two slots. There are these stands on the sides of it that go up past two slots. All I got to do is cut those off. I take some scissors and I'm like, it must be plastic, not plastic, metal. Grab a Dremel, put the metal cutting head on it. Metal dust everywhere. All in the electronic components. That's really good for electronics. Yeah. Airbrush blasted out. First one done. Not going to do that again for the seven others. Go to Home Depot, grab tin snips. Cause I'm like, I bet they're aluminum, not aluminum, steel. So you squeeze really hard with the tin snips and you bend it back and forth. It'll break eventually. Then you got these real jagged, scrappy posts on the edge of your TV. Oh, so sharp. So razor. Like after it would break off, it wouldn't break off like it would limply fall over. It would go and they would go flying in a random direction. It was crazy. So seven of those went by and I fit eight GPUs into this server. And at this point I decided to Google if I was doing this right. Nope. I tried to calculate the thermal capacity of these cards. If they were just purely passively cooled, what the airflow would need. And then I couldn't find it. So I said, I bet it'll be good enough. And I turned the server on and it worked. It fucking worked. I was watching the temperature. So long as I kept the power of the cards individually, you can limit the power. They're normally 450 watt a card, which at eight cards is about 3,600 watts or 3.6 kilowatts. But if you limit the power to a reasonable level, like 33% of what it should be, it works. No, no, that's fine. You don't need to use. All the power. Why not just use three cards at full power? No, the only reason that, uh, I have a 33 right now is because it will blow a fuse. But the reason with 40 90, that math weighed a lot of people on my member mixer pointed out, it doesn't math because the 40 90 is already an overpowered card. So at 450 Watts, it's actually not as efficient as it could be if you lower it. And they've there's tech YouTubers that have done analysis of this. You can lower the power target to 60% and only. Lose 10 to 15% of performance. So you gain a huge power saving up to 33% for about 10 to 15% performance loss, which is great. It's actually phenomenal. And it's because the 40 90 was overpowered. They, they put the power targets so high, it's like, it's already overclocked as the design comes in, but if you bring it down, you'll get barely a dip in performance. If you're gaming, it would be imperceptible if you're doing rendering tasks, it's the matter of like a few seconds. Like longer and you can make it work and I'm making it work. The render farm is happening. Yay. What are you going to render once it's all done? What are you making my movie stuff like balls and water and stuff. I'm going to make the greatest, most high fidelity 3d porn. The world has ever seen. Yes. Yeah, I might still have the computer tower that has, what was that game? You felicious on it somewhere. If you want it back. Oh, I mean, what's porn, is that Jake Gyllenhaal's new movie, but congrats on your functional render farm. How many, how many more are you going to make? Like how many, how big will this get? So they stagger dynamics is working on six computers, uh, that have are going to be like the base render notes. I've actually been talking to the people at Houdini, uh, so that they, uh, they can know how best to set this up. Siger dynamic. To know how best to set this up in terms of networking. But I've also been working with them because I'm trying to get more CPU power. CPU power is like the thing for fluid simulations. The GPUs are great for rendering the actual final images, but the CPUs are necessary for any kind of physics simulation stuff. There might be a time in the future where that's not true, but right now you can get CPUs a lot cheaper than anything else because of the way that it's, it's structured for simulations right now. And because. Everyone's crazy for GPUs right now. So that's why the professional level GPUs that actually fit in those cases are way too expensive. So if I can fit a 4090, oh, the back of the, the back of the server can't close because the 49s are too tall. It looks real jank, but it works. That just includes airflow. I'm pretty sure it sure doesn't, especially when you got only passively cool cards, but I'm going to, I'm going to like tape off the sides where like the triangle of it goes up like this and, and I'm going to tape off the side. So it actually does kind of still go towards the back. Oh, is it? Oh, it's supposed to be drawing and that opens up a big leak in the, I see. No, all you need is just get some box fans and just aim those right in there. You're right. You're right. We're going to spray bottle when it gets too hot. Just yeah. Get the stuff you're allowed to put your electronics into. What's that? What do we, what was that called? Dielectric fluid, just spritz it with a little dielectric juice, cool it right off. So, you know, I just know how I'm trying to do this stupid server rim render farm thing. Right? My genius. I was like, I'll buy some more solar panels because right now you can actually get them for fairly affordable rates. The prices have come down. Dude, everything is so cheap in Mark's world. What, where do you live that every, every servers are cheap. Processors are cheap. He's Markiplier. So he has his own version of eBay. He can log into where everything's just discounted for him. If you buy refurbished things, you, you can get them at cheaper prices, way cheaper, and they're only partially used solar panels are good for 25 years. And they lose, they have a rating of how much power drop that they'll experience over a period of time. The quality is so much worse though. I bought used dinner and it was terrible. Yes. I'll have the refurbished ribeye and the potatoes off that lady's plate over there. The thing is like, if you get things, you get them refurbished and you do, you put some DIY spirit into there. You can get things at pretty good rates. Now, that being said, I am, I am spending more because I'm investing in building something. That's why I'm doing it. I bought solar panels, right? And so you can read online that this solar panel is like 65 inches by 44 inches is about the dimension of this panel. And I'm like, okay, that I got that size in my head. I ordered, you can order them by the pallet that you get bulk pricing. And I'm like, okay, I mapped out. I think that this area could cover about 28 to 30, maybe solar panels, depending on how I arrange it. There's a pallet here. It says 31. It's refurbished high quality, barely a few years old. I'll get it. That pallet weighs 1,680 pounds. And my hero of a FedEx freight person, uh, got it delivered down my driveway. Oh, wow. Ah, look, one guy is like looking at his chart. He's like, Oh no, your driveway is treacherously steep. I cannot imagine. I was ready. I told them I was ready. Yeah. Just put it at the top. I'll bring them down one at a time. And even then, if I, if I had to deal with that, I would be looking at a nightmare because, uh, 65 inches is five foot six. That's taller than you. No, no, it's shorter than me. Okay. It's true. It's half an inch shorter than you. You're right. It's close enough where I had to think about it, but they're very large, right? If, if it was in this room, the pallet would take up like 70% of the room. Oh Jesus. God, that's enormous. Well, yeah, 31 things that are basically five and a half feet by what four feet ish. They're all as almost as tall as Mark and wider than I am, which is to say extremely wide. Yeah. They're huge. They're enormous. And I have to haul them up onto my roof. It's really nice of you to put all that power right back in the grid and not get any for yourself though. Yeah. You're not going to hook those up to your house, right? You're just going to keep, you're just going to send that juice into the grid. Yeah. That's what I just do in my public duty, you know, just really, really got to do it for the people. I imagine some poor guy working on a power line and then Mark just plugs this thing in like a Christmas tree and all of the power goes flying. This guy like hermit scream. Well, Wilhelm, the line bulges as the tsunami of power comes down the line at him like a cartoon. It's just like, Oh no, I got to get down. Oh, it's coming. Lightning bolts. The sunglasses are coming out the sides. Some of them have guitars playing rock and roll songs. That was small talk. That was all small talk. That's what I did yesterday. Mark, what do you think we're talking about? You bought 10 kilograms of some unknown metal. And I, I can't wait for the subreddit post. I can't believe Mark bought 10 kilograms of silver. It's how you turn on the render farm. You have to put it in the slot. Yeah. operated it's very expensive oh yeah they got me and you pull a big lever and then you render that'd be great if i could set it up that way i'd like to render a ball floating in water cherry cherry oh bar a toby crashed fuck i'm doing good my render farm is rendering it's very powerful and it takes a lot of electricity you're in the future now so maybe it takes less no more but you got your solar all fixed probably right i didn't i bought a 30 foot pole but then i hesitated or i didn't hesitate i didn't hesitate at all that's the wrong word forget i said that word i underestimated how unwieldy a 30 foot pole is because when you have extended all 30 feet it's not only extremely heavy at that mechanical leverage disadvantage uh but also the the the pole itself just goes just uh droops all the way everywhere and so it's really easy to whack it on things and you know solar panels aren't exactly the most they've got things to help with droopy poles what viagra the eliminati has spent 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my commander so uh yeah i'm doing that because the alternative is windows server and i don't know if you know how much windows server costs but it can cost upwards of uh seven thousand dollars per license per do you need a license per machine that's on it so you don't necessarily need that one and i don't know if that includes multiple licenses for multiple computers but it's like with servers i have many small versions of it and i don't know what i don't know any of it but i know that linux is free so i don't have to deal with that but also it's the blue it's dracula oh i love count dracula i auditioned for the movie you think if we get in blue it's like a christopher nolan dragon like we're going for dark and gritty dracula's been through a lot and whenever you're ready i'm dracula jared leto as dracula uh so my small talk is the same as it's always ever been is just about the render farm i have solved water cooling wow don't talk about glob or salts again don't go there why not i don't need to right now right now i don't because it's winter so i don't need to worry about cooling too much water cooling is a lot like factorio i was just playing that last night yeah i know right so factorio is about like optimizing your your distribution and automating things so that it all flows in a good direction and and you know you can get clogs in your factorio factory because you can have things going and then it won't go out you have an end to an out and an out to an end and it needs the belts need to be perfect and and also you don't need extraneous belts because you'll run out of space and stuff like that right so water cooling has always been a very scary part of computer building to me and i've never done it because i always worry about catastrophically exploding my computers with water to be honest i did that the first time i think i told you guys the first time i did i had to put it outside and drain it well that's just because i didn't know what kind of plug i was using it was an inset plug result i've now successfully water cooled eight servers damn i'm really proud of that i've i've got custom blocks well i didn't make them but the blocks for the cpus i put them in there i created my own routing with the loop inside a very elegant way of like the tight angles and stuff like that because if you go to a server manufacturer and you buy their software you're going to have a lot of problems because you're going to have a lot of problems because you're going to have a lot of problems because you're going to have a lot of problems because you're going to have a lot of problems and you buy their proprietary water cooling solution it's thousands of dollars thousands of dollars but the block i got is 60 bucks right so it's 60 bucks for that 60 bucks for another one and then the pieces the connectors are like five bucks a piece you need dozens of them you need way more than you ever think and if you get the quick disconnects they get pricier but i did it all and it works and i set up the the quick disconnects properly so that if i ever need to do maintenance i pop them out no water goes anywhere like dry breaks you mean like specifically exactly yeah oh so they're they're not going to be able to get out of the water so i'm going to have to do a lot of so they're they're just like couple and they uncouple really easily uh so i pop all those out the only thing that i didn't i don't understand is there's some liquid physics going on that don't make any sense to me because i know the general principle is like you need to put the fluid in when you're filling it and then air rises to the highest point in there and it'll you know you want to vent that so you can always fill it so you want where you're filling it to be the highest point and it goes down but what they don't tell you well they probably do but i didn't read it is the way the the loops can sit and go up and down also create like many high and low points in the loop it's like the false vacuum thing in the universe where they say we're resting at what we think is the base point but actually we're going to all collapse into nothingness and so what happens with that is pressure can start to build up explosively inside these tubes i haven't had anything explode except where i was filling it in so many times it's like old faithful i watch as it goes in i see an air pocket come back up and it sounds it sounds like it's rumbling and i have to put my finger over the thing or else it's going to push water up from behind it before the air gets there so i push that and then once i look at the tube and i see the air is like filtered to the top then i let it go it goes it's just like it's a very strange it doesn't feel like building computers at all it feels like a it feels like i'm a car mechanic just like trying to cobble together the system it's very fun and water just going every i've ran through so many rolls of paper towels i've lost more fluid than i've put into the thing but not in the computers you've probably spent thousands of dollars on this on the parts no i was joking oh i'm at like negative 10 points to start this episode it's not a great start for me no come on it was funny man i laughed i thought it was very funny i was just being respectful and being quiet thank you we love this episode we love this episode i've not even done anything i've never built custom water loop stuff but i've watched lots of videos on it that's that's very funny well so you have dry brakes so you could use like a like a pick or something to sort of like open the dry brake and bleed the air from your little pockets that you have probably i could i just worry about breaking any kind of o-ring or seal inside there or jamming a mechanic or mechanism in there and then suddenly i got like oh o-ring break no do you have trauma about o-rings probably they make like a dry bleed connection like a dry brake bleeder where it's like you can connect it to the dry brake and it's the right connection but then it's just a bleeder that opens to the atmosphere or something i bet they do one of the problems with water cooling is that there's so many different manufacturers there's so many different standards of parts most of the tubing that i do is 13 is 10 13. it's 10 millimeters inner diameter 13 millimeters outer diameter most of the actual threaded screw holes are a quarter inch some things are very standardized but all of them are tiny itty bitty parts that cost like five bucks a piece and so you're like oh it's cheap oh man i need 96 of these i wasn't wrong by it adding up to thousands of dollars it sounds like by the end of this it does but when you think of the server thing it's it's like thousands of dollars per actual server on the rack so that it adds up way quicker for there and in the end you would still have to hook it all up and get other stuff so it works out to be cheaper but it's there's something very fun to it it's like it's the exact same difference of buying your own computer and building buying your own parts and building your computer or buying a pre-made computer what if you buy your own parts have someone else build your computer that's it costs money unless i do it and then i do it for free it lets you trick mark into doing it hey you guys want to come over yeah i did but no i felt very cool because i had a pressure tester so whenever i would build the loop i would have a pressure tester plug up one in put the pressure test pump air in to test for leaks it felt very it felt very official i felt very confident doing it and it was actually really fun um i haven't i don't work with my hands a lot and something about wrestling the pressure was very fun and super frustrating at the same time but i think it's a good idea i think it's a good idea to and super frustrating and sometimes but very fun good work i listened i paid attention thanks man i have a disaster oh go on so you know on the last episode i was saying that my render farm is working i don't want to ruin the illusion for people but you mean you mean like 40 minutes ago yeah well you bragged about how your render farm was well i said it in there because i knew that if i got into it i would make a lot of money i knew that if i got into it it would be a longer thing so i didn't want that to be part of it it has not been going as good as i may have suggested was going oh no go on this is an issue that me and there's uh there's an it guy that's helping me out with uh setting some of it up he's doing more of the like the software side getting things to actually uh arranged in that capacity and so one of the persistent problems is a server that i bought which is a density like a high density server it's four nodes in like a two unit thing they're long but it's meant to cram as much processing power into a small base as possible the issue with that is not in me putting it together it's not in the water cooling that i set up because in the compact space you need water cooling or else it's going to overheat they're so crammed in there and so you need an external water cooling solution all that works but after all that work that i've put in and i've probably put in like 100 200 hours into just setting up those parts of it with all the water cooling pieces in there there's still a persistent performance problem and i've put in like a hundred two hundred hours into just setting up those parts of it with all the water cooling pieces in there there's still a persistent performance problem the chips themselves are fine they come back and they all the checks come together but what it's boiled down to is the specific server brand that it is has not put out an update to the chipset for those processors and that's just something that is i i don't know if there's a way to just go directly to the intel makes the processors and go like hey you got drivers give them to me or if it's something where you have to kind of like figure out a way to set drivers from the manufacturer of the processor and then they integrate with the board and but there's a problem the longer you use them the more the performance just starts to go and then eventually it locks up so bad you can't use it how long is this like if you do it for a couple days or is this like 10 minutes 15 minutes is about the time it starts not long enough that's not long enough to do i was like yeah you could just reset it every night so i thought this would have resolved i've done like bios updates i've done you know firmware updates i've done every update that i can that is perfect and i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god the end result i think and i'm in communication to like do a big return is to do a different server platform there's another company i'm not naming any of them because i don't know if one works or not okay asus servers i'm gonna say are the ones that are not working right now in this specific use case they have worked in other things that i've done before asus or whatever it's called and so gigabyte makes an equivalent product that has also the hyperdense four unit thing but i have to do all the water cooling i literally have to unbuild everything i've built to pull it out of the computers box those back up return these giant hundred pound gigantic boxes and then get new ones and rebuild all the bullshit all over again which took me hours days weeks this sounds like the kind of server i wouldn't leave a tip and i always leave a tip give them a point just all right all right mark said so have you thought about talking to the server's manager i am the manager that sucks though that really sucks it's a big pain in the ass because as far as i know it should work they read fine when they're working the performance is exactly where it should be all is lining up it's not overheating i even thought that it might have been one of the peripheral components in the server overheating at one point i had a graphics card in there a very small compact one i took that out because i thought it was overheating apparently it was not the problem either and no other peripheral in there because the fans are very loud i do the water cooling also to try to quiet it down a bit they're running at full bore and still just crashing i think it's just because the chipset is not updated to run with those processors there's some kind of paging file system memory system error that's building up over time that's causing like consecutive errors that run into each other and then eventually it freezes sounds a little hey sucks nope nope no i give myself one for whatever that's worth but anyway so that's the whole point of this it's not all sunshine roses but half of the other render farm is still working it's just those hyper dense ones that are not working which are the most recent edition and it's it's something i can return it's just like that's ours i don't have not devastating but it's unfortunate just means i gotta undo a lot of work and redo it but it'll probably be fine once you redo it it'll probably work then yeah it probably will maybe but i do know that the gigabyte servers do have a late a more recent bios update than asus did asus last bios update is not only last year but it's like mid last year whereas gigabyte has a bios update that you can apply to the server as of earlier this year which is after the processors actually launched so i know that the old bios is not is not current as of the processors release date and these ones on the other server are so ideally that should work because the processors are fine probably i never thought i'd be a truck guy i got a ford f-150 lightning because i looked at the specs of what it could do in terms of power delivery the size of the battery is way bigger than the teslas ever were the range is not a lie those teslas all lie about their range it's it just blew my mind i would watch it and i would go like i've traveled 10 miles well surely the oh it's dropped 30 miles all right well that's fine it said i had like a 300 mile range on my tesla i got 180 at best even when i was driving like this it's just lies but this one i drive 10 miles and it's like the range estimate only dropped eight and i'm like oh thank you oh thank you now hold on the tesla wasn't lying someone took the road signs and spread them out further that wasn't the tesla's fault it's crazy because this truck has a 240 volt plug in the back of it i could run my render farm off of this truck this truck has more power than all of my backup render farm by three times i want to see a ford commercial with like a really nerdy dude driving his ford lightning with the render farm he's like off-roading in the mud through the woods while like video game let's plays or like processing in the back i i could i'm good i have an update on my many hobbies which one is it 3d guns 3d guns ammo farm where are we going look it's about the render farm it's been working delightfully finally after four floor air conditioners two wall air conditioners that sumbitch is actually staying at a steady temperature but the harsh realities of operating a render farm you built a freezer it's not that cold man even with all those i woefully underestimated how much cooling was necessary uh but i have another problem entirely i got my power bill oh no did the seven air conditioners raise it slightly it's been up and down because we've been testing it but we haven't been running it so the past month has been the first time it's been like running every day chugging you know beautiful renders my power bill was three thousand dollars is your solar working or yeah it is i bet you wish you were a man with five ovens instead of a man with seven air conditioners now don't you i opened up that letter you know how they show a bar graph of your like monthly usage yeah it was like oh and it's trending up as i'm testing and then this past month just astronomically somehow it like comically goes off the paper you just look at it just like you're like oh my god i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die what the fuck i don't know what the power company thinks is going on at this place um you know this place being a bathroom you're gonna get raided by swat for a render farm dude yeah no da is gonna show up and be like uh the power company thinks there's a grow farm here or something something crazy is happening so it must be drugs oh there's a farm all right you're gonna find seven 3d printers a server farm seven ac units and a bunch of 2d guns there's like a big wooden crate with like the rack in it and then just a bunch of pieces of paper with hand-drawn ak's on it this man's planning to raid the looney tunes i got a gun safe and they're like open this safe i'm like all right i'll open it and just a avalanche of papers you know mask style with all the dollars coming out for some reason they all have hand-drawn serial numbers but then their hands scratched out yeah so uh that's my update and it's only going to it's not gonna go down much in the next few months so they didn't say anything about that though because like i when we lived out there we had there was one summer where uh the really one of the really bad fire summers happened and i like we had all of our shit closed and sealed and we were running the ac just to try and keep positive pressure on our house because it was like toxic outside and our bill jumped by like 250 and the power company sent the bill and then they called and we're like are you guys okay are you good and i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like yeah there's fires and shit like i don't know it's been awful but they no one they just saw your bill and we're like all right well if they did call i didn't answer but yeah i feel like they're probably more um more into that they're gonna think you're a render dealer and call you el servo i had this idea a long time ago before i started building it a long time ago it feels like a long time ago like a year ago because with the max studios apple silicon it's very power And I did some paper math that was like the power efficiency this cost over a period of time the cost of this like computer going on ebay and finding random stuff and the math showed me a year ago that the the power cost of the actual server grade stuff would be astronomically high and i'm like i must be doing my math wrong that can't be right and now here i am my math was right congratulations oh 36 000 a year on power you're saving so much my yearly power bill is gonna be 36 000 good math i can tell you it's okay you're getting that back because the server farm is very profitable i assume oh well technically it's saving me money technically i think i'm deep i think i'm deep in the red i have like i don't want to go and do the math i don't want to get it would have been so much better if i just hired another company got them i oh man oh man you factor in maintenance cost i'm sure you're gonna be well into the green well maintaining it i'm not hoping to do that i'm hoping that when it dies it dies and i will just because there's no company i can send it back to i've got it from ebay so and and it's not like i don't think i can sell it back again so you spent a year working on this getting it to work you installed 70 air conditioning units you're paying 3 000 a month and your idea is when it dies it dies i i even now i'm like buying a whole a room full of max studios might have been the better option how much glob or salt do you need for it to die in a tragic glob or salt accident uh very little if i go by that one guy on reddit thought of what i was going to do which was shove glob or salt inside the computers and immerse them so very little anyway i'm sorry i gotta gotta weep a little bit here i understand i would too if i had a three thousand dollar power bill yeah i actually in in the in the past two days since we last talked i did a full redo of my whole render farm if i take a picture of it afterwards because i didn't take a picture of it during it i'll send it to the editors if i remember a lot of conditions this is never going to happen no one's ever going to see this editors invent a render farm make it look awesome it still has some wires across the floor just because of where the electricians put in plugs and the fact that it is a bathroom but it's a lot cleaner now it works a something up against your your air conditioners that you've put in it's able to breathe and circulate air better so give those room to breathe everything's going i got the leaning tower of max studios it's great what does that mean when i picture your render farm don't take offense to this i picture c-3po after he got ripped apart and is like in the backpack or all the pieces are there but there's wires and he's like heads on backwards that's how it was before have you did you did i not show you a picture of the before i'm pretty sure i did it's a dystopian it was a dystopian cyberpunk kind of nonsense thing if i type server into my phones like pictures it doesn't come up and i'm like why wouldn't that come up i was like oh yeah because it doesn't look anything like what they would think a server looks like what's the search term to find that picture post-apocalyptic nightmare rat's nest of wires and oh there it is let me look up apocalypse no results okay uh nest of wires rat king let me look up rat king nope yeah man i can't find this uh some mystery apple intelligence my booty well it's working great after the rebuild right no issues yeah so you rebuilt it and nothing has gone wrong and it worked perfectly the whole time kind of it's it's not my fault of course it's not no i can't find the picture oh no no i can't find it anyway it's it's good except one of the things that i i dislike is these small like arbitrary details about computers that you know you have to really read the manuals to know or read in depth about reviews and anything i'm sure a bunch of people know that if you need to populate all of the ram slots for server grade hardware to run at full performance it needs all the channels filled it's expecting that so for a while these have been running with almost all of them full so i'm not sure if i'm going to be able to do that i'm not sure if i'm going to be able to but not all of them for the ones that have ram slots you can't skip any slots and or it no yeah it's uh it's probably as common knowledge in the server world but i didn't know this because i'm used to like running a pc for desktop reasons and sometimes for pcs if you have only half of them filled it runs faster like so it's very opposite thinking um but whatever doesn't matter not important god damn it will be the death of me because for some reason those management ports just decided to die they they're plugged in just the same they were plugged in before from one switch put them into another switch reset everything reboot everything and then just never picks up an ip address just cannot do anything i don't get it i don't understand how this stuff is supposed to be smart redundant fail safe it just oh no another another plug i can't do it on a different server i think it's probably because i didn't let go of the fixed ip on the previous device before i moved it over but i've done that before where devices just pick up anyway it's it's a nightmare i know that you know that you could pay someone to do that but there's a part of my brain that would love to see you like like find an it consultant or something and be like i just need you to come i have the setup and they walk into your bathroom and they're just like oh god oh no oh and like they're like pull out their laptop and plug in and they're like looking through the software they're just like oh god i'm sure it's fine but i'm sure a professional would there's not even people who build pc like just towers there's so much shit that if they looked at the way i did it and i think i do it i mean it works i've never had a pc that didn't work got all the specs i wanted out of it they would still probably just vomit out their entire lungs at what i did i can only imagine for server shit what kind of things there are that you would have no idea about there really is a guy uh with burning tractor which is the vfx company i work with um they have this guy rory there who is their it guy and so he he has worked muriel miracles for never actually stepping foot inside the server room but every time i do something i swear to god he's i see on discord that rory is typing stop rory is typing stop rory is and i know it's like stop fucking it up you fucking delete how dare you delete i know that's what's going on i know he's doing that but you know what could you do well i think that's very relatable we've all been there with our server farms i think we've all been there with fucking up networking i mean i miss the days when it was just like you have your modem from the the the internet company and i still managed to fuck that up so what was i thinking having a whole farm yeah well it doesn't make me feel good that you're doing all this shit and it's this is pretty high-tech stuff and it's a complicated system with lots of different and i i have felt exactly the way that you feel but it's been me on my home wi-fi with a modem and a router and like one smart device being like oh no i connected you to the you were on the wi-fi and now you forgot oh and like but it's just me with like one light bulb being like why won't you be blue fucking light bulb but it doesn't make me feel good that i've been there but with you know kind of a different scale of technology kind of different but it's all just like that man it's weirdly applicable because the things i've learned are actually like in the it world they're like common knowledge for oh no there he goes he had it with our tech talk wade speaks for the subreddit uh but it's common knowledge apparently in it land but you know if you want your home network to work better virtual networks are the way you create a sub network just for your devices and internet of things and then you create specific rules that those connect to each other and then to your other virtual network where you operate your normal internet connection so it's separated and you don't have any cross traffic from that one in your network what the fuck are you talking about yeah don't don't do it i tried to i tried to do it i took down my whole network for two days i don't don't touch the vlan button it's not i'm not going to oh there's a part of me that's like oh that would be so sick though because then there wouldn't no it would not be sick it would be her it would be awful it would be like taking another full full-time 40 hour a week job at a thing i don't know how to do and i don't need that in my life what i should do is i should uh render a 3d model of his basement and use my render farm to simulate poop water explode i wish you got really good at making the ocean go i know but using my computing power to make those infographics like you know news documentaries or like discovery channel they have a 3d rendering of what's happening wait i'm gonna make a 3d rendering of your basement and i'm just poop water just and and you just like you know thank you what what was the noise wade well shit is on the move out there but thankfully it's just molly cleaning up after the cat okay i would have phrased that differently shit is on the move out there thankfully it's just molly but you know so many things you've done so much cool stuff i apparently i don't even know the beginnings of it but i think that's a good thing to do and i think that's a good thing to do and i think that's a good thing to do and i think that's a good thing to do and i think that's a good thing to do and i think that's a good thing to do and i think that's a good thing to do and i think that's a good thing to do and i think that's a good thing to do and i think that's a good thing to do and i think that's a good thing to do and There's $10,000 graphics cards while he's hawking a server rack that's as big as the bigger than the shelf behind me that probably cumulatively in the whole rack costs like $10,000,000 and that's just to go really fast. You need a render cooperative or a render collective farm. What? What is that? A group of farms. Those are types of farms. You know, like a ground plowing kind of farm and a co-op kind of deal. What a name that would be, though. The render collective. This is my render cooperative. I have 16 garages each stacked with every bathroom in every building I have access to stuffed full of stuff, full of servers. I am a man with 10 garages of render farm. I have some tech complaints, but, you know, those are always here to miss. I love when Mark moans about technology and so does everyone. I'm the subreddit universally. All right. So I do have a few complaints. All right. Okay. Okay. I had another fiber line pulled to my render farm, right? You know, how basic do I need to break this down? Line of fiber. Damn. Are you asking me or Wade? If anyone has an objective. It's a line the internet comes in on and goes out on. For a lot of people. Actually, not as many as there should be. Most people have cable, which is still copper cable. Well, everyone. If internet touches fiber optic at some point, it just usually there's a junction at some point where it switches from your hard line to your fiber optic. Yeah. It's the internet. It's the fast kind. So you can get your own fiber going between yourself. You could set up your whole house networking with fiber. If you really wanted to, you could do that. And it would be very fast, efficient networking. It's just that they're very fragile. And you hated having money in your bank account. Yeah. Yeah. And you, if any rat even touches a wire. They'll crack it in half or they'll nibble on it and show interest gone. Oh, an actual rat. I thought you meant like a really shitty person. I knew you fucking rats. Touching my wires. I see two paths for you. That's opening my ceiling. I'm going to rule you with fear or I'm going to rule you with love. And you're not going to like that. Anyway. So anyway, I started shooting my ceiling. Fiber. I had two because I wanted a redundancy because there's a single connection going to my render farm right now. And if that breaks, then no one. Uh, can use it or I have to go in there, but there's no computer set up in there. It's all remote access, right? So if that breaks, even I can't use it because I tell my computers are, you know, I access it remotely. Yup. So I had another fiber line pulled and this one, I was like, I want hundred gigabit lines and a hundred gigabit because I was like, okay, that was cheap to install it. Well, it's actually not that much more though. The most of the cost is in laying the conduit and pulling it through. I guess that's fair. The. The cable may cost like twice as much per foot or something like that, but still most of the work is in the labor of getting it from A to B. Um, so they did it. I had them dig it really nice and the whole pipe and then, you know, it gets all set and done and I go to the server closet and I look at the cable and I'm like, pick up the other cable that they put in this 10 gigabit one and I hold them up next to each other. I'm like, fuck. They pulled two cables through this fucking enormous thing and they're not a hundred anyway. So that's the only complaint I have about that and this is more of a complaint with a particular company than anything, but it's like, I'll say this thing, I'll say these things and like the people that you'll come to the house cause it's like a house and they're like, and I'll say, I want a hundred gigabit and they're like, you don't know what he needs. A hundred gigabit. That's crazy. I want a jillion gigabits. This guy. I want a billion dollars. Okay. Yeah. All right. And so they're like, I'll just pull this fiber, which at this point you have like three government satellites aimed at your house at all. Probably. Probably. I have, I have an unbelievable amount of random bullshit going on here and to confirm the bear. Yeah. Yeah. The bear, the bear could fuck things up real fast. Anyway, I was just like, God, I just wish people would take me seriously sometimes cause I'm saying what I mean. I am, I don't know everything about everything I'm doing, but when I say I want a hundred gigabit and. And they'll say like, well, you, you need to get really expensive infrastructure to even handle a hundred gigabit. And then I go, I know. Cause I bought it. Way ahead of you, dude. But I have it. Plug it into the thing. Anyway. I have a render farm update. It's not going to be exciting. I'll take a nap immediately. Uh, so in my experience, um, I have had many ups and downs with the render farm. Uh, especially in terms of like how to get the computers in there, what format. And I'm circling back to this crazy thing. That's going to make a lot of people mad. Go over salts. No, no, no. Okay. Don't even need it. I've, I've very much become like no water cooling at all, unless it's like a all in one. And even then I would rather have an air cooler because it's just going to be consistent. At least I guess that the fan fails, but usually you can have two on them. I was so proud of my ability to go on eBay. I was so proud of my ability to go on, uh, eBay, you know, much like, uh, the Cincinnati bangles. I was just going to write a sign that said, Wade loses a point for every minute he sleeps while Mark talks. So anyway, so, um, I did not know this, but you know, the Intel chip that everyone seemed to not review very well that I've been like. actually very good they make a workstation grade motherboard for that that takes error correcting ram and it's the same fucking price as a normal well in a high end but a high end normal desktop motherboard and why this is huge is error correcting ram is very important on a server especially if we're running a long time is because when it's doing calculations that are very precise it needs to not have wrong numbers in the memory that leads to bad issues and uh it's there's a lot of reasons why it would happen why it doesn't happen but error correcting ram corrects it and so it makes it really really uncommon for those to happen but it's also stupendously cheaper than the even the discounted server hardware i was getting online it is stupendous and it's more power efficient and it's like and i look at it i'm like what was i fucking thinking with this stupid render farm so yeah um i'm going to be overhauling it because now that iron lung is wrapping up i'm gonna i'm gonna get it out of my bathroom i'm gonna get it out of the bathroom and then i'm gonna move it uh so that it could be because it was always a stop gap it was always like this is urgent i gotta do this right here in this bathroom there's no other place to do it apparently and then um you know then one thing led to another but i'm gonna be moving it i'm gonna be selling stuff and then i'm gonna convert it to a much more optimized streamlize and this is once again where i'm like people like again you just don't be loyal to amd or intel buy what is useful in the moment and holy shit i can like they're so discounted because no one wants to get them because the two frames per second it gets less than the other ones who cares it is such a good productivity chip it's so good i'm doing overhaul of that so i got some computer parts coming in well that's fun it's very fun i'm i've already sold a couple things um back so technically i'm up except i paid for them before so i'm dead notty has spent decades keeping lemon on top and lime in the shadows their lemon agenda has infiltrated everything even our music that hit song named after the color of lemons not a coincidence big lemon has been pulling strings in the industry for years think about it but now seven up is fighting back with their new lime lemon soda now lime comes first seven up flip the sip but you got that money back full price i'm sure oh yeah oh yeah man people are tearing apart my render farm on on like the server at home lab people are really not people and i shared the picture because i know it's bad guys i know oh wait that was real that was a real picture yeah no that's it it's just like look guys it was a i i learned as i went it's not pretty but fuck it works look guys it works yeah that shit fucking flies and people need to understand it's not just for like rendering video or encoding video that's not what it's for it's not even just for rendering the cg scenes which can do very well it's purpose built for distributed simulations simulations need a lot of compute power and to do it efficiently this is the best way that i've gotten so far to do it it's not the best way ever it's the best way i could manage myself and let me tell you all those people out there they were like why didn't he hire a professional to do this i tried they came in and i said yeah i want to put a server in my bathroom and then they go fuck you and they leave they don't do it they don't do it so yeah that's it so my my childhood thing actually that i do still to this day is something that i i i cultivated again because i was building the render farm and i know that sounds weird but my dad always had computers every ever since i was a kid and so for a very long time i was the type that was like he got computer magazines he got like the micro center mall like advertisement thing and so i would after he was done with that i would go through and look like oh yes i'll take a thousand dollar hard drive 30 you know this five-year-old me just like a 30 megabyte hard drive whoa oh a 10 pack of floppies for only 29.99 well i'll take two you know uh so now that i'm i'm i'm back in building render farm and i'm done with the movie now so i i now i'm just like what computer can i upgrade what means like i caught a whiff that there were new intel processors coming out and it's like oh yeah all right i probably need that i probably i probably could do with an upgrade to my main computer i can build another one you want to build another one so it's just like i i just desperate desperately looking around for anything that i can build and and anything that i can tinker because it's just like it's just tinkering with legos but with expensive computer equipment you are a great candidate for a hobby i've been trying to teach myself about and i'm too stupid apparently to do very well have you looked into homelab stuff i was on the homelab subreddit they were making fun of my render farm oh they were burning your red of your friend well some of them were just like no wait actually this is what this subreddit is all about really shitty setups this guy's you can't make fun of him and meanwhile he's saying that i'm like oh you don't look i'm still getting hit here man seriously though the people on the on the homelab subreddit who are like scoffing at people who scrabble things together and have janky at what is a homelab if it's not supposed to be some janky where you're like i have these weird random components let me see what i can make with them it's great and the people who are chill about it are cool and the people who are on reddit about it are not that janky held the number one movie for 71 and a half out of 72 hours that's true baby that's true what i will say is uh about that some people were looking at all the mac studios and was like oh clearly that's not a deal tell you something about mac even if you don't like it that shit holds its resale value like crazy and you better believe i'm gonna sell those things now that i'm done with the movie so i only got him for this for this thing so i cannot fucking believe how expensive like an m1 mac mini still is like you'd think like oh that's really old but it's an apple silicon chip and but it's like oh that's like a five-year-old compact computer like 300 400 500 bucks depending on the specs and what it's like what the fuck you might as well just buy new stuff goddamn that's the crazy thing about mac mini is that you can't make fun of him and you can't make fun of him and you crazy thing is because i bought this i mean it was still the ai craze but then people discovered that hey these macs are actually really good for ai bullshit and i'm not using it for that i'm using it for efficient rendering but the resale value i might make money on these i'm gonna make money on some mac studios it's crazy so the render farm is no more whoa okay it's a little underwhelming it's gone i mean it is big it is big news but it's it's gone i feel like it's been that's just a part of life wow why are you acting like you're not listening man i know you hear what we're talking about i am listening i'm reacting oh okay so yes the render farm has left the bathroom i know it's a big deal and you burned it in a bonfire in your backyard i covered it in glauber salt which as we know very flammable extremely flammable one of the big problems that everyone was trying to warn me about when i stuffed it inside my servers it's hard to get up when you're old it's moving to an actual not a bathroom like yeah wait you're right oh yeah this is about me it's about you go on anyway it's it's moving to a place that actually should have a render farm a server room a real real deal server room purpose built specifically for that oh fuck what is happening under his desk we're gonna mow men are tunneling up from his basement floor what the fuck is happening i just squirted water all over well geez man don't do that i'm really trying to stick with the story of this one mark's render farm is going to a real room like a big boy and i'm selling uh some of it because with the current computer prices and ram prices don't give me that face weight very high oh man you're not lying uh there's some extra stuff that i think i'll try to sell might even make some money off of what i got off ebay for that i don't understand what's happening with wade i gotta be honest i'm super distracted right now okay so my what i do right now is like okay let's say making movies or whatever it's like making entertainment that's a lot of different disciplines involved in it that's why i constantly come out like i bought a graphics card boohoo you know i i built a render farm boohoo you know glauber schultz boohoo you know lenses boohoo does that count of like having a job that requires a bunch of skills i mean technically it's your job so i 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