Best Of The Render Farm (Compilation)

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You don't understand. All right. Who's our next guest going to be who like breaks a house trying to get you your thing? No, it's not like that at all. Is it mobile games? They can be expensive. They can be, but it's not mobile games. I want to build a render farm. That's not as exciting as you're trying to make it seem. I am personally. I do think that's interesting because I'm interested exactly at what the infrastructure for that is and how you set that. But like to normal people, that's an even tougher self than lenses. I'm going to be honest. Oh, come on. I'm going to let you cook here only because I filled up my sonology the other day. I've had it for, I don't know, 10 years. I've had it for a very long time and it's got 30 terabytes of storage. Last night I went to transfer some files. It's full up. Damn. So if you've got space for me, Mark, I'm in. Yeah. So I, I think Wade, you'll like this because you know, when I was doing that whole hard drive stint, which people forgot about when the lenses took over, but I was doing a hard drive thing there for a bit. Yeah. When you were thunderstruck, whatever it was called. Yes, exactly. Thunderbolt. So I built a server that has 400 terabytes of storage, right? Cause I was like, I'm going to future proof this. I had to win a whole lot of money. I had to hard drive kick. I got some refurbished hard drives. If there's one thing I love is that doing these hobbies and trying to find a good deal for them, even cause it's so expensive, a lot of these things. So I always try to find like the good deal for it. So I bought refurbished hard drives and in every way, that's a big, no, no, no, don't do that. But it just so happened in a specific situation that I did this. There was some cryptocurrency that was based on hard drive space. I talked about before. Yada, yada, yada, but render farm is different because it's extremely difficult to get server infrastructure, at a cheap price. Unless you just so happened to be in an era where everyone with a data center is replacing their hardware with this new fancy AI bullshit hardware. And they're throwing everything out at incredible discounts. And you can find the most amazing server hardware ever on eBay for steep discounts. Okay. How much is a steep discounted 400 terabyte? Oh, you're not going to like this. I'm talking like 50% plus discounts, right? How, how much is a 40, 90 right now? Right? 49 couple grand, isn't it? 2,200 bucks or something. 40 nineties right now is like two grand, like around that. It's still very expensive. You can get some things with a 40, 90 in it, an entire CPU rim, like power supply, motherboard case, all this shit for $2,400. So 400 more than the card and a 49. In there. 400 more than the card itself for the entire fucking computer with an NVM, two terabyte NVMe. It's got 64. Look at the, even my camera agrees. What the shit is, why is that happening? Why is there a thumbs up on your face? It's just so positive. You can get all that for $2,400. And that's, that's, that's still a lot of money, but you talk about getting the computer with a 40, 90 in it for that. Now here's the real kicker. That's just, keep talking. That's just domestic level computer hardware, right? At steep discounts. Cause now is a better time than ever in the history of forever to get a computer because there are so many companies that are trying to clear shit out to get this new shit in. What do I search for on eBay for this? Give me some keywords. What you want to look up on eBay is you want to find, you want to find the specific server grade processor that you want, because what's happening is all these companies realize they need GPUs right now. So actually GPU deals are hard to come by for work, workstation level graphics, they'll get good deals because people are still, uh, chain trading out computers, but you can get like 64, 96, 128 core processors in their server chassis with all with like a terabyte of Ram. I don't even know what you would do with a terabyte of Ram for like 80% off of the cost. And they are perfectly functional, very modern, like only a year or two old, but because every company in existence is trying to get rid of what they have and replace it with these bigger GPU based servers with like eight GPUs in them, you can get, you can get the craziest shit. You can get the craziest shit for so much less. There's processors out there that are like $12,000. You can get, you can get two of them. You can get two of them for like a 25% of the price, which is a lot. I haven't bought these, but this is why I'm like, now is the greatest time in the history of forever to build a render farm. I want to see your half a million dollar server set up. I want to see your half a million dollar set up. You don't need to spend half a million dollars. What was I just telling you? I don't know. I had left. Oh yeah. You weren't here. Where did you go? I had important business to take care of. I'm with you, Mark. I see what you're laying down. Yeah. You see what I'm laying down? You see? Well, so what you're going to buy? Well, you're going to lease space and just buy a bunch of secondhand servers and set up a render farm thing for cheap for people to use. No, just do it in my garage. If I have to lease space, that's going to cost more money. But if I do in my garage, where's the cargo? I don't, my car hasn't been in my garage for a year, man. Yeah. I mean, he, you know, he had movie set in there and stuff or whatever. Yeah. I have a whole set in there, but once that's gone, now that movie's done, I have space for everything. And I put, I put air conditioning in there because filming in there in the summer was such a pain because it wasn't air conditioned. So I put an oversized air conditioner in my garage so I can have a server rack in my garage. I can't believe you filmed a whole movie in your garage. I didn't realize that. I picked up a lot of shots in my garage. I was basically talking about it for the past year. Wasn't it? He did talk a lot about that. Yeah. I feel like, Oh, that's crazy. You know what Mark points to someone. So I want to build a render farm. I want to get some sweet deals on some sweet computers and put them into my garage. And I'm sure that buying this shit off of eBay is definitely reliable. Well, so you're saying eBay, these companies aren't going out of business, but they still probably like offload these to just like wholesalers or something. Right. Can you go to like in-person auctions where this stuff would be even cheaper? Probably for sure. I haven't scratched the surface of where these sales are. I've only really just started looking and finding like incredible deals. If anybody knows the secret ends of where to get this shit for the cheapest prices, put it on the subreddit. Let me know about it. I'm about to start a rendering revolution because online render services cost way too much. And if I can do it from home because I got solar panels, so I don't even need to pay for the electricity. Okay, man. If we have a zombie apocalypse, you're going to be able to film movies from your house. Mark's never going to have to stop making content. Yeah. One can only hope. One can only hope. Anyway, that's my small talk. My latest hobby. Have I told you guys about it? Yes. Render farm. Oh, yeah. Render farm. Render. My main man, Tugum4470. You're the real, you're the real, real. You get me the best discounts on possibly good server hardware. I'm sure. I haven't even gotten it yet. I'm sure it's great. Where are they coming from? Shenzhen, China. Well, isn't that where all these come from? I feel like that's going into possibly prejudiced territory, but keep going. I honestly, there's just like the manufacturing in Shenzhen is like every piece of technology. Where was the place where the glycine factory was? Medical grade glycine. Did you hear about this? Of course not. It's me. On TikTok, there was a huge trend where there was this nonstop talk about medical grade glycine. And there was this one glycine. I don't know. I don't know what it's for. I just know that medical grade glycine was very important. there's there's certain things that you can do and cg is like computer graphics a lot of it comes down to rendering but there's there's a whole world of like art there that i know i'll never fully get i won't be an expert at it but at least the technology side is like okay for the sake of rendering i can render and i can figure out how to do that i can build a render farm right i know how to build a computer because i've done it before i've done it for you i look into it like a server can't be that different and so this is where my brain goes it goes from one to the other i have a basis of knowledge this is a problem that i'm facing i think i can figure out puzzle a way to a solution using my knowledge you never have any like desire to do that my knowledge is to socially outreach and find someone else who can solve my problem i was going to go into the spiel of all the hardware that i've come back to and talking about that and talking about the latest thing that's going to make people so mad about me talking about it i can't wait for people to be pissed off is it a render farm i've heard how to drink you you can't say that word in front of a render farm did render farms kill his family yeah probably i'm gonna go with yes you ever swallow and immediately know you did it wrong and you're fucked did you just do that unrelated to me saying the word render farm or was that completely unrelated i was just taking a sip and my body was like i should breathe that i've been building my render farm i'm a render farm expert i'm i'm an expert you're still on about that i've discovered the magic that is blown fuses again uh so turns out computers draw a lot of power they a lot of power and so for those that aren't aware that even just running one computer all day long is an incredible draw of power it's like running a microwave constantly so uh one of the things that i'm i'm looking into is getting uh uh power into my house like figuring out the power system i'm trying to get like a better battery backup but i i was doing something yesterday that i i was okay so i was up on my roof right and i was like how cosmically stupid what i was doing was i climbed up on the roof and i called for amy amy and i was like can you pass me the hose so she throws me the hose and there i am standing on my roof watering my solar panels because they're dirty and encrusted with grime but i just like i just was like standing there and thinking about it as this like wonderful era that we live in with all this technology and able to just grab electricity out of the air with solar panels and there i stand hose being like so fix it got it well if you want to grow your solar farm you've got to water it yeah that's true that's true it just it just felt so dumb like it was happening but then i i thought you were gonna tell me you were cleaning out your gutters or something i was not expecting the twist of watering your solar panel no no because i could understand like cleaning out the gutters and what i should have done is i i have a ryobi power washer and what's great about it is it has a hose attachment on it but my hose isn't long enough and i didn't have the battery charge and i was just and they looked pretty crusty were you using the solar panel attachment for the hose shut up you know they actually make a ryobi solar panel cleaner it's basically the same as a power washer but it's designed to work way better on solar panels yeah because that stuff is crusty because i got done i wash it off and i you know i felt like i was playing power wash simulator because i didn't have enough pressure because i had one of those little handles but you know at the distance the wind alone was beating me uh so i got done everything was wet and i i got done everything was dry and i was like oh my god i'm gonna have to do a bunk runoff and by the time i got to the end i went back to the beginning and the beginning was dry it was just as dusty it was like super like just as crusted over couldn't see a single cell and i'm like damn it uh so i bought amy bought a big mop with a big handle so if people out there want to know what the celebrity lifestyle is like it is mopping your solar panels on your room so yeah that's what i get to look for in a solar panel cleaner um and so i i'm realizing that with all of this uh computer power that man i uh i um yeah things are going good things are going real good i have all the parts assembled there but i realized that i got the wrong uh case for it because i'm not building a server rack i'm basically just building a few computers for for my houdini render farm um but i got the wrong case size because you know it's been a while since i built a computer i used to always do it and then i kind of fell into um people doing the custom water cooling solutions because like i don't really want to fiddle with all that so i'd rather get it from a company that's going to do it but for these for these things like the prices are so stupid for like business level stuff that's why businesses don't make any sense i don't know how businesses ever make money when they pay like business prices for things because you got like home internet you pay home internet and it can be like up to a hundred dollars for good internet and that's that's pricey a business internet line starts in the thousands and i'm like wait a minute where does this jump occur why why is this but that's just what businesses pay for they just do it they just do it they just do it and and other people charge businesses like these exorbitant rates and it's like it doesn't make any sense because the price of these these big workstation computers from a from a pre-built manufacturer like there's a markup for pre-built computers for consumer level hardware what should be like a ten thousand dollar computer if you bought all the parts in a very good computer someone will mark up up to fifty thousand dollars for for the entire thing to be assembled if you look at some of the higher end workstations it doesn't make any sense so i'm building it myself i'm building it myself i'm building it myself so i'm building it myself so i'm building it myself i'm building it myself so i'm building it myself so i'm building it myself so i'm building it myself um but i got the wrong case because it's an ss it's ssi-eeb motherboard not an eatx motherboard and even though the case says etx and the motherboard i bought was listed as atx have you tried the eat ass motherboard but what if we had in our movie theater we had a land area we had little pods where people could do like if they wanted to record youtube videos or stream or something we had little rooms segmented off where they could do like a little bit of a There's like one computer with a camera already set up and a light already set up. And also all those computers are part of my render farm. Yes. And we can farm Bitcoin while they play. No, no, no, that's not, you can't do it on normal hardware. That's not an efficient way to get Bitcoin. Not with that attitude. Oh, that's why you're the handsome one. Ah, so you want to get me Bitcoin. You just don't know it. Maybe, I don't know. I don't know what to believe anymore with you, but right. Isn't that a great idea? It's the best idea. No, well, I mean, I do have little things that I've been working on, but you know, I don't want to, I don't want to bog anyone down with my really cool ideas and things. Is it lenses and or render farm? New and exclusive holiday decor just launched online at the Home Depot. Shop the holiday decor you want online only at homedepot.com. No. No, no, maybe you'd actually appreciate it. Maybe actually appreciate it because it's only adjacent to it. I want, I'm trying to get back into water cooling. So when you're building a computer and this, this applies to people out there, you have, you can have the option of water cooling components and it's kind of like a, it's a higher level way of building a computer, but it can yield like a lot better results than just air cooling because if you have a bunch of fans in your computer, the computer that I built for you was air cooled, you know, um, it wasn't water cooled. There was just like a big old air cooler on it, I think, unless I did put it in a, probably had an AIO, didn't it? I, that one with the thread ripper was the last one that I built there. Oh, maybe not. No, maybe not. Yeah. I have no idea. But either way, I've been getting a lot of ideas. I'm getting into water cooling again because there's a lot of really funky new developments in the world of water cooling and I've really wanted to try immersion cooling. Have you guys, you guys heard of this? I have actually. No. So immersion cooling is literally what it sounds like. You take your whole computer and you stick it in a liquid. You go. And that's okay for it? That's okay for it. It's so good for it actually. It has to be the right kind of liquid. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It can't just be spit or piss or something like that. Yeah. Um, so you, you get a special fluid. That's called dielectric fluid. It's non-conductive so that when it's in there, it's not going to like zap. Cause the thing is water, pure water is actually not very conductive. It's the impurities in water that cause it to become conductive and that can cause it to short out and then it'll go could bloom. So you need a pure, whatever this fluid is. You can't have like dust getting in it or anything like that. It's take some cleaning required and there's some extra things, but the way you can do is you can take your whole computer really dense, like get the density way up and stick it in a, in a vat of fluid and it'll. Circulate the fluid and it'll cool all the components in it, right? Do you run the computer while it's in there? Yeah. Okay, go on expound. So it's dielectric, right? So the fluid is entirely non-conductive. So all of your, your plugs and stuff in the computer, you power plug it's in there, you know, it's, it's powered. It's got all the peripherals in there. This is usually for data centers and stuff like that, but there are people that, you know, their home computer, they basically get a fish tank, right? And they just put their whole, they build their whole motherboard and stuff inside the fish tank. And then they fill it. Fill it up with this fluid and you'll see it. It's pretty cool. I can actually pull up like, uh, cause I'm picturing like your tower, you just shove it in a kiddie pool and then all the wires and stuff. It's like, does it just like bend up to come out of the tank? Or they're like, how do you turn it on? If it's in the tank, how do you keep it from getting impure? It's real tricky, but this is it. Okay. So like the tank is also the tower. It's not like the tower in a tank. The tank is also the tower. So this one's trickier. I think this one is at a higher risk of problems because the top is open, right? So you see the. Cables going in to the top the back of the motherboard is at the top of this fish tank that's in front of everyone and so the plugs go in the top now the problem with this is dust and impurities can get into the fluid this way it's not sealed off ideally you want something that's more sealed and the other issue here is there's probably not as much circulation i think this is it's uh it's just more of a kind of a funny build that actually looks like a fish tank but in industrial applications you put your entire server rack inside this fluid you can get the density up you just need it to circulate things and it's weird it's super weird to look at your mind goes like that's not right but it works it works and it works well it cools things really efficiently how pure are the rocks in the fruity pebble oh essential essential for that yeah you want your 90s ass color scheme glow in the dark rocks at the bottom so that you can really get all the gaming juice out of your components yeah so i'm looking into this and i'm probably going to break some things for a kid computer or for a server size stuff for server size stuff but the problem is you know everything server size takes a premium so i'm trying to like see if i if i just get a big enough you know horse drinking trough if i do that maybe how annoying is this to change out like let's say a part fails you have to replace a part pull it out you shake it off a bit i mean it's about as annoying as like you can imagine it is it's it's literally dunked in a fluid that's probably slightly toxic but like can you put your impure fingers in this liquid to replace the whole liquid no you should wear like gloves and stuff ideally you know you're doing this in a very professional way but you know i'm not the most professional person i mean they make like filtration systems there must be a type of filtration that you could use to filter your dielectric juice is it expensive is dielectric liquid water whatever because it's a special thing right you don't really buy it in 50 gallon barrels you buy it in you know smaller containers than that you know like paint where they have that special paint that's so dark it's like only 0.1 reflectivity sure that is very expensive but you can get black paint that is like two percent reflectivity still extremely dark for way cheaper than that right it's the same with these fluids some people have proprietary fluids that are crazy expensive that they have patents on and they sell because it's that much better at non-conductiveness or non-cooling or cooling capacity or stuff like that and so these companies want to sell them at premiums but you can get there is dielectric fluid that you can get that will not be as expect as expensive that's a cool so if everything blows up a lot of my things seem to like have a risk high risk of electrocution and explosions but that's how you know you're really really starting to get somewhere you're also starting to push your your drowned man saga on yourself because like you're power washing on your roof and now you're getting liquid on your computer you're starting to really toy with liquid and as someone who deals with liquid it's a dangerous game i had a crazy idea to what if i pumped air through my pool you know because i thought linus you know when he did his pool cooling for his whole server where he ran tubes his problem was that he did liquid cooling underneath the pool i'm like what if you just pump air through the pool and then blow that air in and you get a cheap air conditioner right yeah yeah yeah sure yeah yeah is there okay perpetual not perpetual energy what if is there a way that you you know how your water has is pressurized right so you got water what if what if i have my water pipe i build an illegal extension to go up really high have it pour onto a giant water wheel that's going to generate electricity but at the bottom of it i just have it pump back into the pipe where it came out of that way the water company never knows they never know yeah no they have they don't have anything for that they have no idea that's how it works right i just have the open pipe at the bottom and it just it funnels right back in it would work i just put the negative pressure terminal yeah i just put it in reverse yeah like i have some questions about it but i'm just going to not ask them and assume you're correct this episode is brought to you by t-mobile 5g home internet you already know the t-mobile 5g home internet is ridiculously easy to set up with a price that doesn't feel like you're getting scammed every month but here's something new worth noting t-mobile now is the fastest 5g home internet according to the experts at ucla speed test no seriously their 5g home internet speeds are officially the fastest which means that when you're downloading all your movies that aren't mine every single one except for mine you'll get them at the fastest speeds possible along with all your video calls and 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know done some experimentation with underclocking you know or uh undervolting the graphics cards yada yada it doesn't matter two nights ago or yesterday morning rather i woke up all five computers that i had running were offline all five of them and i'm like well that's strange not a one of them i load up each one of them i load up the first one and i discover oh the boot drive is corrupted it cannot boot can't boot windows it does it's self-diagnostics all the hardware is fine it can't boot windows can't boot at all it can't even find the boot drive so i load up the next one two of five same thing boot drive corrupted and here's the thing i don't know if me even talking about this is painting a big target on my back oh it definitely is but i'm going to keep talking about it because it's just fascinating all offline at this point third one same deal same exact problem boot drive corrupted fourth one boot drive corrupted fifth one boot drive is corrupted what time was this that that you found this i don't know what time they all went offline because i couldn't find any logs or anything like that i didn't have anything robust to set them up these were just render notes they didn't have anything on them they were just running two pieces of software basically is all they were running so they were technically connected to the internet i didn't even have monitors connected to them so i had you know i i was remoting into them just to even get there but i had to like i had to get them connected to the i have a little like clamshell kvm so i can plug into them and see what's going on and i'm like that's super weird what are the odds that five computers in different parts of my house all running the same software but also other computers in my house were running this software as well all of the only the dell ones shut down and got corrupted can i pose it positive theory here yeah what's up okay do you remember the story we just told the bird chipmunk wizard theory okay what did we talk about yesterday on this podcast we were recording talked about adele and boots go on and now your adele's won't boots oh okay i'm just saying put the tinfoil hats on because uh what day did that issue occur oh yeah during the adele boots day bob gave one hint all day you know that it was boots whoa whoa whoa that implies that this is my fault somehow remember that song never mind i will find a render farm like you adele all right so this is very strange right so i contact dell customer service and i've got a i've got a customer service gripe to pick because all right clearly this isn't normal right no that's pretty weird it's very strange my only guess is that it was some type of malware that somehow got into the computers and again this like maybe painting a big target on my back i have no idea but something got into the computers and corrupted the boot drive it's very easy to cause these things to become unstable if you don't have a boot drive because if you don't have a boot drive if you like delete system 32 or something like that you can basically render a whole computer by doing that and it would just cause a bunch of problems it wouldn't it would not be able to boot anymore it wouldn't be able to repair itself i'm not saying doing that would do that but you know a lot of things can be done that just doesn't have a lot of value to the malicious party other than your up i guess yeah i i have no idea either so i reach out to like dell customer service and i knew something was wrong when i was being answered by the dell social media team which was a lot of work for me i was like what the hell is going on with my computer i was like oh my gosh a little strange but i'm hoping that that's dell's customer service on the social media team and i go through this all day i'm like this is weird right can you help me find figure out why this is happening i was like okay let's troubleshoot it so they run me around for hours and hours doing all these troubleshooting tasks that i keep saying like yeah i've done the basics i've done your diagnostics there's nothing wrong with the hardware and then it goes on and on they keep leaning on like you're gonna find out why this happened right like no let's just do the next step you're gonna find out why this happens right let's just do the next step we're gonna find out what happens right all right create a thumb drive with a windows installation on it and i'm thinking in my head i'm doing anything to not do this because if i format that drive any evidence that of what happened on that computer is going to be erased or become much harder to find if i do a fresh install of windows on it and i keep asking them like this and they're like please just do the next step we are going through this this is the process we need to get i'm like okay and so i reinstall it do that and then i tell them like okay i'm in windows now what and they're like great let us know if there's any problem keep an eye on it have a good day and i'm like you you sons of you had no intention of finding out what went wrong with it at all i was like just take this computer back and look at have have compu there's such a thing as computer forensics you can look into the hard drive and find out some logs you can dig in there and you can but they had no desire to do any of that they were never going to do it and they strung me along the entire time did you do all five or did you say do you have any that are still no i only did one okay i only did one because i have all five with the same problem but they would not admit they would not admit that five going offline for the same reason all independently of each other wasn't weird right and they kept thinking like it's just like a random software corruption i'm like you gotta be kidding me the odds of random software corruption occurring across five machines at the same time is statistically most likely improbable or not impossible and nothing's impossible but whatever it seems much more likely that this is some kind of security vulnerability that was exploited or something like that and it's only these it's my other computers are fine only these what's up with that it was kind of brilliant now they've got you as a complicit party and covering up the evidence so if you do get a forensics specialist they're going to see that you covered up one of the five the what what crime is being okay i don't know man but it's pretty bad if dell's uh getting you involved in the cover-up you're right and they got the social media team involved so that way the moment you try to say anything they're like they've already got the posts ready markiplier covers up corruption at dell you're right inside job that's it that's it that's the one that's it and look it's like i know what can they do all i wanted was them to just escalate it to the next level of being like yeah this is weird enough maybe you should look into this it's probably nothing it's probably something like as i was running them like it was some port was not forwarded correctly in the computers it allowed someone to get in or a virus to get in i'm not saying this was like a specific attack it just seems like this is malware riding across the software for the render farm thing that i was using that allowed uh like some piece of malware to get in deleted a system thing and boop all the thing go yeah it's more likely that that happened but it's also worth exploring i can't use these computers if that's possible that was my point to them is like i can't rely on these to do what i need them to do if there is something like that in them i don't think it's the software i'm using because i'm using it across my other computers but maybe again it might be i mean it might be i like a driver compatibility where it's the software and some specific thing in the dell machines and they all have it because they're all the same machine or something but yeah exactly no it's weird to corrupt the boot disk like that is like not what would normally happen is they would just blue screen and then you could you could get it to post and maybe it would continue to have an issue you have to do drivers or install or whatever but like yeah i'm not an expert but as far as i know that's a much weirder outcome yes yeah that's not something where it's like whoopsie doodles and then your whole boot drive is just corrupted that's a different kind of issue it's very strange you guys are basing the too much stuff on facts here i think bob's earlier theory about the wizard chipmunk he's trying to get his revenge because you caught him like practicing his bird which wasn't perfect so he's like half chipmunk and then he fully went chipmunk and he's like fine i just won't even be a bird fuck this guy it is strange and then he followed you home as a chipmunk and attacked your computer to get back at you i did think i was almost positive that when i first saw that bird it was a chipmunk first that's what i saw in my mind i might have seen a shape-shifting chipmunk i think bob was originally right just a glitch in the matrix here let me give you let me give you a wade solution here hang on okay i'm ready all right mark i know how to solve this problem it's not the dell computers themselves what you need is a costco size jug of lighter fluid and then a lighter to light the lighter fluid and then what you do is you take all of your computers and you draw a circle on the ground around them in lighter fluid and you want to use like the whole bottle like as much as you can you might need multiple bottles i don't even know but you basically want all of the wires all of the networking stuff all of the computers all inside this circle and before you turn them on to do anything you light the lighter fluid so you've got a wall of fire around all of your computers those are important to protect you i know this about technology the firewall will keep you safe and you'll be safe and you'll be safe and you'll be safe and you'll be safe mark i've heard of this mythical firewall i've got an alternate okay wizards are sometimes like the male equivalent of witches and we know from even dating back to like the 1940s or even earlier witches don't like water so if you pour water on each machine you'll melt the witch out of them oh oh okay i have a pool could i just throw them in the pool yeah in theory yeah okay all right cool no you know what mark you were telling us about how you wanted to do water computers in water right you were talking about that we talked about that what you do is because you said the water needed to be a special kind it needed to be thick or something get a bunch of the leftover thicket that you have from redacted get a get a bathtub filled with thick water and then just submerge all the computers in there that'll melt the witch out and keep it out plus then they'll be real cool because of what you were saying about water cooling yeah you you listened or get a snake big enough to eat a chipmunk or a small bird because clearly it's that way if the wizard comes back it's ready to be gobbled up that's good defense that's great if you could find a species of snake that can survive underwater you could combine some of these solutions that's true too if you can find a fire that can burn underwater are you jotting these down for later yeah yeah i'm really really keeping track of everything that we're doing today i appreciate that well that's i really appreciate you guys helping me out and i appreciate being able to write about something else someone out there is like oh my god mark is under attack i need to get him a message don't totally happen yeah yeah definitely anyway glauber salt g l a u b e r apostrophe s glauber salt remember the name it's gonna change the world how so well that's what for us to discuss just chucking it out there glauber salt i feel like generating heat is not as much of an issue in the world as dissipating heat and avoiding excess heat generation is yes yes go on go on well this doesn't seem to well because glauber salt used in like heat exchangers or something like what are we talking about like is this almost almost so here's the thing you boil water you put your glauber salt in it and that mixture alone creates a concoction that would freeze at 90 degrees fahrenheit that's scientifically true but that doesn't mean it's cold now now here's the thing if you add regular table salt to your mixture you will lower the freezing point of that mixture same way as if you put salt on ice it'll start to melt because the freezing point is now lower than what it should be you can if you put a certain ratio into it i don't remember it off the top of my head you can create a mixture that will freeze at 70 degrees fahrenheit exactly what most people might consider room temperature and if you put xanthan gum it'll turn into a gel so that it's easier to you know handle than just like pure liquid and then you have a gel like a gel pack that'll freeze at 70 degrees and what that takes advantage of is the fact that phase change it's called a phase change material it has it takes so much more energy to get it to change its phase than it does to get it moving a degree so it'll stay at 70 degrees way longer and all this circles back to the concept of my render farm so i figured if i make enough of this shit and stuff my render farm full of it it'll stay at 70 degrees because there's so much ice but warm ice glauber's ice so i don't know enough about thermodynamics to like really contribute to this but what you're saying sounds right so basically what you're saying is you would you would put all this stuff where the the phase change point is right about 70 degrees it would constantly be in and out of phase like it would be kind of part liquid part frozen because the the racks would generate heat so they would heat but then the phase change of all the glauber's out solution goop it would extract but they're put but glauber's out is still still a poor thermoconductor right so would it really when mixed with water it becomes as good of a thermoconductor as water is so by itself so here's the thing right the weird thing about 70 degree phase change material is if you think of the world we live in at night it usually gets below 70 degrees most places even in the desert it can get down because of the temperature so if you think of the world we live because the sun is not shining and it's cold it will freeze overnight if it's in an environment where it can for free anyway glauber's salt is cheap so the thing is if i get an industrial cook thing pot an industrial boiler pot i mean the industrial boiler probably implies that it's a very large pot for boiling stuff i don't know hey siri what's a kitchen so mark if glauber's salt is such a magical cheap material that is so simple to implement why is it so simple to implement why hasn't anyone else done this well i don't know that's fair i don't know what it is about it but ever since i heard about glauber's salt i can't stop thinking about it and it's not even that it's the glauber's salt really it's like i don't know if there's a name for the mixture of what it is afterwards but that's science like you can do the science i just need to figure out a way to make a 422 kilograms of it i think the thing for me that i'm sticking on is the point is not i'm with you that it freezes at a such a high temperature that basically freezes for free but then it's a solid right yeah or it's a it's a goop anyway the way water the way water cooling works is the heat is not dissipated just because water absorbs heat it's dissipated because water absorbs heat and then is cycled away from the electronics yeah but that's not what i'm doing if i put it in the room and then put a fan on it and blow the air but you're but but heat heat saturation is a thing the whole the whole thing you don't shut down server farms overnight do you Part of the point is they sort of run 24-7. Is there a downtime? It'll be fine. it'll be fine are these like you change out the glower salt packs or something with no no that'd be too heavy no so mark what if you make your glower salt solution your high high freezing point solution with mineral oil and then you submerge your stuff in a glower salt mineral oil tank so that then you don't have to cycle it the phase change occurs and as the heat builds up the phase changes out but then it cut like it freezes it's like an expanding contracting water cooling rig i love that and i think that's incredible however i feel like it would mess up with the freezing point if it was mixed in mineral oil yeah i have no idea what the freezing point of mineral oil actually is i don't know how that's different i know it's not water so what i was going to do is i'm going to make it an evaporative cooler so i'm going to mcmaster car and i'm going to buy a bunch of duct work and i'm going to get some ventilation fans and it's going to build a little evaporative cooler and the cool air from there is going to blow over the glower salt mixture and i'm going to have a heat exchanger inside there that's going to be like basically encapsulated by all of the glower salt mixture and then some working fluid running through that going to another heat exchanger inside the the render farm room and a fan on that blasting all of that delicious cold free air conditioning baby well not free it costs a lot to build it and all that stuff yeah so it's it's essentially a normal water cooling setup with extra stuff that's definitely gonna go wrong it's glower salt it's glower salt you gotta have faith in the glower are you getting custom like heat sink blocks for all each of your little chipsets and cards and things or are you just sort of setting it near it no i'm not you you keep thinking about a slather my electronics and glower salt no it's air it's just air okay it's just air circulation you're just using the salt solution to cool the air to a crisp it's a it's a cold battery it's a battery of coldness but room temperature coldness how is small for you guys how's it been you know how it be every day another failure every day i rise grind fall flat on my ass this render farm is never happening i swear to god everything i've tried i i fuck you not it is not going good i thought i knew computers i've assembled three different computers let me just say don't buy cheap shit on ebay half of it doesn't fucking work oh no you don't have any support you don't have any backup you can't return it because it's coming from a city i can't even pronounce and then late the latest adventure was in my adventures with water cooling right i've never built a water-cooled computer with a custom loop before but i was like hey i went to engineering school i can do this and i i set up everything i made sure that i actually got parts that i could verify like accounts still on ebay still discounted but there was like someone i could communicate with and i got parts and then i sourced all of my water cooling stuff from a company that's actually here in la who was very helpful i asked for a lot of advice and they gave me guidance and i put it all together and i turned it on and i started filling the reservoir with liquid and i'm i go through two bottles and i'm like wow the guy only said i need one this is a thirsty machine and when i get through the second bottle this pump just keeps chugging this liquid i'm like damn it's going and then i finally notice it's a clear liquid so i know it's so dense with components that i didn't notice the entire bottom of the case is swimming in the fluid somewhere in the loop there was a catastrophic leak and it was just gushing so it would go through the pump you never occur to you that at no point did it start coming in the turn to the reservoir you didn't you know now that i'm thinking about that it should have been obvious but i never built one before so i was like wow this is crazy so you doubled the amount it recommended you were just man this is thirsty that was your thought i don't know the server right now i took all the electrical components out of it besides the power supply i just so happened to that was makes a clicking sound with the fan like i don't know what kind of trailer all of my shit fell off of that i bought don't buy discount shit on ebay it's not worth it it's not going to be worth it it won't it's so many nightmares i've wasted so much money i should just trust this company because holy shit well i just gave you points for the drowned farm also for listeners out there he pointed to a shirt that says steiger dynamics yes tiger dynamics oh you like the listeners now and what's what sucks also is like i've been i've been doing this i i run into all these little problems so this is actually a 4090 he's holding a 4090 it's a 4090 graphics card that i have unmounted from its previous cooler and put this nice thin one slot cooler right it's one slot that's what it's it says there's only one it'll muscle wide it's no it's one slot this son of a bitch is not one slot by two millimeters it was all everyone said this was a one slot cooler the company that made it then came out with another for this exact board the reference board that this is a more expensive one that is actually one slot and i contacted them and i said hey is this available and they said yes but you have to order a minimum of a hundred jesus christ a hundred i said i didn't respond i didn't respond i didn't respond i didn't respond i didn't respond i didn't respond i didn't respond the 4090 themselves are fairly expensive so this is i mean the one slot one the one slot thing i got for uh this thing was a hundred and i believe 60 plus tax and something like that so 160 bucks for the cooling block itself but if you know a 4090 it goes from a three slot card down to one and i was like that which would be awesome it would be awesome if it fucking did the thing that it said well if you buy a hundred of them it will you're right i sure will the solution is to buy more stuff mark then the new stuff you buy will work probably and if it doesn't then you could just go buy other new stuff and that'll be the stuff that works and it's like all of this is an attempt to save money everything i've done is an attempt to save money i have lost so much money well i haven't lost it right because i could sell this again and that's fine it's just work to do that the the other computer that all crashed at once dell also extremely unhelpful and then the episode that where i talked about came out suddenly they wanted to help so badly and i'm just like interesting whatever guys hey you can't have eggs without breaking a few eggs yeah so i can technically sell this and this is still useful to to people it's still useful to me like it's still like okay you can put this in a loop this still works fine yeah that's a normal 4090 right that's not like a like a weird where it won't won't do video games or normal computer shit perfectly normal 4090 and actually i could probably sell it for more than i i paid for it because i've modified it in a way that's valuable yeah with the water block that's actually pretty sweet but just so you know anybody if i sell it it's not one slot only if your slot's two millimeters too thin like mark slots right when you get girthier slots have you got the wrong slots mark why don't you just increase the gap a little bit i'll just stretch my motherboard out a little i don't really have a story to tell other than we're so back baby buying random computer parts off of ebay is the success boy to do everything you know how i said that it wasn't it is it we're back in oh shit we're so back we're so back because i have not had one success wait that sounds bad i have had not just one success i have not had one success not a single goddamn success oh i've not had a single i've had a double i have now two functioning dual processor computers that i built myself one of which is right here and i'm gonna show you guys i'm so excited for this oh my god this is one of them jesus christ that's enormous they're so portable mark is lifting up a very large looking computer for the listeners it looks like he stuffed a wig inside oh wow that's that's one of them that's large that slides into our server rack of some port some yeah so it's a server uh case it doesn't seem to be plugged into anything how do you know it works i plugged it in before i just don't have it on right now because in this room if i have both it and this computer on it'll blow a circuit oh fun how many how many did you build total so far two uh this one is dual off ebay are those like xenon processors or whatever like server ones yeah so these are they're actually these ones uh right here so these oh i got these for like less than 10 percent of the price of what they retail for i don't know how and i don't care well just wait two weeks when they stop working again no no didn't you build like five of these and you had to send them to stigian i'm sorry what to look at them you were like help me are you trying to say steiger dynamics our favorite computer uh company god fucking damn it dude i hate words yeah that's it didn't they didn't they help yeah they're helping okay so is this a separate computer one of the ones they looked at this is a separate one yeah so we're working in tandem i'm just trying to follow the timeline yeah so what i what else i did that the second one i have an eight gpu server out in my uh storage there was no way that i could fit eight 4090s unless i change the cooling block right so what i've been doing is i've been putting these water cooling blocks on them the ones that were like two millimeters too thick or whatever it was yeah those are too thick but that's not it's not too thick for that one water cooling that whole thing would take a whole thing so what i realized is the actual 4090 i have if you take off the fan off the top of it the actual radiator is less than two slots there's no fans on it but it's less than two slots there are these stands on the sides of it that go up past two slots all i gotta do is cut those off gotta take some scissors and i'm like it must be plastic not plastic metal grab a dremel put the metal cutting head on it wow metal dust everywhere all in the electronic components that's really good for electronics yeah airbrush blast it out first one done not gonna do that again for the seven others go to home depot grab tin snips because i'm like i bet they're aluminum not aluminum steel so you squeeze really hard with the tin snips and you bend it back and forth it'll break eventually then you got these real jagged scrapey posts on the edge of your gpu oh so shit sharp so razor like after it would break off it wouldn't break off like it would limply fall over it would go and they would go flying in a random direction it was crazy so seven of those went by and i fit eight gpus into this server and at this point i decided to google if i was doing this right nope i tried to calculate the thermal capacity of these cards if they were just purely passively cooled what the airflow is and i was like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god what the hell is this i'm like oh my god what the hell is this and then i couldn't find an answer so i said i bet it'll be good enough and i turned the server and it worked it fucking worked i was watching the temperature so long as i kept the power of the cards individually you can limit the power they're normally 450 watt a card which at eight cards is about 3600 watts or 3.6 kilowatts but if you limit the power to a reasonable level like 33 percent of what it should be it works i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh that's fine you don't need to use all the power why not just use three cards at full power no the only reason that i have a 33 right now is because it'll blow a fuse but the reason with 4090 that math weighed a lot of people on my member mixer pointed out it doesn't math because the 4090 is already an overpowered card so at 450 watts it's actually not as efficient as it could be if you lower it and they've there's tech youtubers that have done analysis of this you can lower the power target to 60 watts and that's a lot of power so i'm like oh my god i'm 60 percent and only lose 10 to 15 percent of performance so you gain a huge power saving up to 33 percent for about 10 to 15 percent performance loss which is great it's actually phenomenal and it's because the 4090 was overpowered they they put the power target so high it's like it's already overclocked as the design comes in but if you bring it down you'll get barely a dip in performance if you're gaming it would be imperceptible if you're doing rendering and you can make it work and i'm making it work the render farm is happening yay what are you gonna render once it's all done what are you making my movie stuff like balls and water and stuff i'm gonna make the greatest most high fidelity 3d porn the world has ever seen yes i might still have the computer tower that has what was that game you felicious on it somewhere if you want it back don't say that publicly oh i mean what's porn is that jake gyllenhaal's new movie well congrats on your functional render farm how many how many more are you gonna make like how many how big will this get so they steiger dynamics is working on six computers uh that have are going to be like the base render notes i've actually been talking to the people at houdini uh so that they uh they can know how best to set this up steiger dynamic can know how best to set this up in terms of networking but i've also been working with them because i'm trying to get more cpu power cpu power is like the thing for fluid simulations the dpus are great for rendering the actual final images but the cpus are necessary for any kind of physics simulation stuff there might be a time in the future where that's not true but right now you can get cpus a lot cheaper than anything else because of the way that it's it's structured for simulations right now and i'm trying to get more cpu power because i'm trying to get more cpu power now and because everyone's crazy for gpus right now so that's why the professional level gpus that actually fit in those cases are way too expensive so if i can fit a 4090 oh the back of the the back of the server can't close because the 49s are too tall it looks real jank but it works that just improves airflow i'm pretty sure it sure doesn't especially when you got only passively cool cards but i'm gonna i'm gonna like tape off the sides where like the triangle of it goes up like this and and i'm gonna tape off the side so it actually does kind of stay in place oh is it oh it's supposed to be drawing and that opens up a big leak in the i see no all you need is just get some box fans and just aim those right in there you're right you're right we're gonna spray bottle when it gets too hot just yeah get the stuff you're allowed to put your electronics into what's that what do we what was that called dielectric fluid just spritz it with a little dielectric juice cool it right off so you guys know how i'm trying to do this stupid server rim render farm thing right now i'm trying to do this stupid server rim render farm right you have my genius i was like i'll buy some more solar panels because right now you can actually get them for fairly affordable rates the prices have come down dude everything is so cheap in mark's world what where do you live that every every servers are cheap processors are cheap he's markiplier so he has his own version of ebay he can log into where everything's just discounted for him if you buy refurbished things you you can get them at cheaper prices way cheaper and they're only partially used solar panels are good for 25 years and they lose they have a rating of how much power drop that they'll experience over a period of time the quality is so much worse though i bought used dinner and it was terrible yes i'll have the refurbished ribeye and the potatoes off that lady's plate over there the thing is like if you get things you get them refurbished and you do you put some diy spirit into there you can get things at pretty good rates now that being said i am i am spending more because i'm investing in something that's why i'm doing it i bought solar panels right and so you can read online that this solar panel is like 65 inches by 44 inches is about the dimension of this panel and i'm like okay that i got that size in my head i ordered you can order them by the palette there you get bulk pricing and i'm like okay i mathed out i think that this area could cover about 28 to 30 maybe solar panels depending on how i arrange it there's a palette here it says 31 refurbished high quality barely a few years old i'll get it that palette weighs 1680 pounds and my hero of a fedex freight person uh got it delivered down my driveway oh wow ah look one guy is like looking at his chart he's like oh no your driveway is treacherously steep i cannot i was ready i told them i was ready yeah just put it at the top i'll bring them down one at a time and even then if i if i had to deal with that i would be looking at a nightmare because uh 65 inches is five foot six that's taller than you no no it's shorter than me okay it's true it's half an inch shorter than you you're right it's close enough where i had to think about it but they're very large right if if it was in this room the palette would take up like 70 of the room jesus god that's enormous well yeah 31 things that are basically five and a half feet by what four feet ish they're all as almost as tall as mark and wider than i am which is to say extremely wide yeah they're huge they're enormous and i have to haul them up onto my roof it's really nice of you to put all that power right back in the grid and not get any for yourself though yeah you're not gonna hook those up to your house right you're just gonna keep you're just gonna send that juice into the grid yeah you're not gonna hook those up to your house right you're just gonna keep you yeah that's what i just do in my public duty you know just really really gotta do it for the people i imagine some poor guy working on a power line and then mark just plugs this thing in like a christmas tree and all the power goes flying this guy like not hermit scream well wilhelm the line bulges as the tsunami of power comes down the line at him like a cartoon it's just like a lot of the guys like oh no i gotta get down oh it's coming lightning bolts wearing sunglasses coming out the sides some of them have guitars playing rock and roll songs that was small talk that was all small talk that's what i did yesterday mark what do you think we're talking about you bought 10 kilograms of some unknown metal and i i can't wait for the subreddit post i can't believe mark bought 10 kilograms of silver it's how you turn on the render farm you have to put it in the slot it's coin operated it's very expensive oh yeah they got me and you pull a big lever and then you render that'd be great if i could set it up that way i'd like to render a ball floating in water cherry cherry oh bar adobe crashed fuck i'm doing good my render farm is rendering it's very powerful and it takes a lot of electricity you're in the future now so maybe it takes less no more but you got your solar all fixed probably right i didn't i bought a 30 foot pole but then i hesitated or i didn't hesitate i didn't hesitate at all that's the wrong word forget i said that word i underestimated how unwieldy a 30 foot pole is because when you extend it all 30 feet it's not only extremely heavy at that mechanical leverage disadvantage but also the the the pole itself just goes just droops all the time so it's really easy to whack it on things and you know solar panels aren't exactly the most they've got things to help with droopy poles what viagra new and exclusive holiday decor just launched online at the home depot check out the viral grand duchess collection with smart holiday lights you can control from your phone easily customize the twinkle across trees wreaths and garlands to match your holiday vibe create stunning light effects then switch it up with the top of your fingers even the man in red will be impressed shop the holiday decor you want online only at homedepot.com not sponsored i don't think you don't think i don't know it's the future man who knows i've been also working on the render farm and i know i've disparaged linux users before and i will continue to do so it doesn't make a goddamn bit of sense you open source bastards i hate it i can't even log into my nas from your boon too i tried to install fedora and it blew up on installation my render pretty much and then i then i installed fedora's server client and i after the full installation process i'm greeted with a dos command prompt and i'm like i left this behind in 1994 my commander so uh yeah i'm doing that because the alternative is windows server and i don't know if you know how much windows server costs but it can cost upwards of uh seven thousand dollars per license per do you need a license per machine that's on it so you don't necessarily need that one and i don't know if that includes multiple licenses for multiple computers but it's like with servers i have many small versions of it and i don't know what i don't know any of it but i know that linux is free so i don't have to deal with that but also it's the blue let's try it out i don't know if you know what i'm talking about but i know that linux is free so i don't know if you know what i'm talking about but i know that linux is free so i don't know if you know what i'm talking about but i know that linux is free so i don't know if you know what i'm talking about i auditioned for the movie you think if we get in blue it's like a christopher nolan dragon like we're going for dark and gritty dracula's been through a lot and whenever you're ready i'm dracula jared lito as dracula uh so my small talk is the same as it's always ever been is just about the render farm i have solved water cooling wow don't talk about glauber salts again don't go there why not i don't need to right now right now i don't because it's winter so i don't need to worry about cooling too much water cooling is a lot like factorio i was just playing that last night yeah i know right so factorio is about like optimizing your your distribution and automating things so that it all flows in a good direction and and you know you can get clogs in your factorio factory because you can have things going and then it won't go out you have an into and out and an out to an in and it needs the belts need to be perfect and and also you don't have to worry about cooling too much water cooling is a lot like factorio don't need extraneous belts because you'll run out of space and stuff like that right so water cooling has always been a very scary part of computer building to me and i've never done it because i always worry about catastrophically exploding my computers with water to be honest i did that the first time i think i told you guys the first time i did i had to put it outside and drain it well that's just because i didn't know what kind of plug i was using it was an inset plug i've now successfully water cooled eight servers damn i'm really proud of that i've i've got custom blocks well i didn't make them but the blocks for the cpus i put them in there i created my own routing with the loop inside a very elegant way of like the tight angles and stuff like that because if you go to a server manufacturer and you buy their proprietary water cooling solution it's thousands of dollars thousands of dollars but the block i got is 60 bucks right so it's 60 bucks for that 60 bucks for another one and then the pieces the connectors are like five bucks a piece you need dozens of them you need way more than you'd ever think and if you get the quick disconnects they get pricier but i did it all and it works and i set up the the quick disconnects properly so that if i ever need to do maintenance i pop them out no water goes anywhere like dry breaks you mean like exactly yeah so they're they just like couple and they uncouple really easily uh so i pop all those out the only thing that i didn't i don't understand is there's some liquid physics going on that don't make any sense to me because i know the general principle is like you need to put the fluid in when you're filling it and then you're going to air it rises to the highest point in there and it'll you know you want to vent that so you can always fill it so you want where you're filling it to be the highest point and then it goes down but what they don't tell you well they probably do but i didn't read it is the way the the loops can sit and go up and down also create like many high and low points in the loop it's like the false vacuum thing in the universe where they say we're resting at what we think is the base point but actually we're going to all collapse into nothingness and so what happens with that is pressure can start to build up explosively inside these tubes i haven't had anything explode except where i was filling it in so many times it's like old faithful i watch as it goes in i see an air pocket come back up and it sounds it sounds like it's rumbling and i have to put my finger over the thing or else it's going to push water up from behind it before the air gets there so i push that and then once i look at the tube and i see the air is like filtered to the top then i let it go it goes it's just like it's a very strange it doesn't feel like building computers at all it feels like a it feels like i'm a car mechanic just like trying to cobble together the system it's very fun and water just going every i've ran through so many rolls of paper towels i've lost more fluid than i've put into the thing but not in the computers you've probably spent thousands of dollars on this on the parts no i was joking oh i'm at like negative 10 points to start this episode it's not a great start for me no come on it was funny man i laughed i thought it was very funny i was just being respectful and being quiet thank you we love this episode we love this episode i've not even done anything i've never built custom water loop stuff but i've watched lots of videos on it that's that's very funny well so you have dry breaks so you could use like a like a pick or something to sort of like open the dry break and bleed the air from your little pipe or something like that yeah i think that's a little pockets that you have probably i could i just worry about breaking any kind of o-ring or seal inside there or jamming a mechanic or mechanism in there and then suddenly i got like oh o-ring break no do you have trauma about o-rings probably they make like a dry bleed connection like dry break bleeder where it's like you can connect it to the dry break and it's the right connection but then it's just a bleeder that opens to the atmosphere or something i bet they do one of the problems with water cooling is that there's so many different manufacturers that there's so many different standards of parts most of the tubing that i do is 13 is 10 13 it's 10 millimeters inner diameter 13 millimeters outer diameter most of the actual threaded screw holes are quarter inch some things are very standardized but all of them are tiny itty bitty parts that cost like five bucks a piece and so you're like oh it's cheap oh man i need 96 of these i wasn't wrong by it adding up to thousands of dollars it sounds like by the end of this it does but when you think of the server thing it's like oh my god i need 96 of these i wasn't wrong by it adding up to thousands of dollars per actual server on the rack so that it adds up way quicker for there and in the end you would still have to hook it all up and get other stuff so it works out to be cheaper but it's there's something very fun to it it's like it's the exact same difference of buying your own computer and building buying your own parts and building your computer or buying a pre-made computer what if you buy your own parts have someone else build your computer that's costs money unless i do it and then i do it for free it lets you trick mark into doing it hey you guys want to come over yeah i did but no i felt very cool because i had a pressure tester so whenever i would build the loop i would have a pressure tester plug up one end put the pressure pump air in to test for leaks it felt very it felt very official i felt very confident doing it and it was actually really fun um i haven't i don't work with my hands a lot and i don't know something about wrestling the pressure was very fun and super frustrating and sometimes but very fun good work i listened i paid attention thanks man i have a disaster oh go on so you know on the last episode i was saying that my render farm is working i don't want to ruin the illusion for people but you mean you mean like 40 minutes ago yeah well you bragged about how your render farm was i said it in there because i knew that if i got into it it would be a longer thing so i didn't want that to be part of it it is not not been going as good as I may have suggested. it was going oh no go on this is an issue that me and there's uh there's an it guy that's helping me out with uh setting some of it up he's doing more of the like the software side getting things to actually uh arranged in that capacity and so one of the persistent problems is a server that i bought which is a density like a high density server it's four nodes in like a two unit thing they're long but it's meant to cram as much process power into a small base as possible the issue with that is not in me putting it together it's not in the water cooling that i set up because in the compact space you need water cooling or else it's going to overheat they're so crammed in there and so you need an external water cooling solution all that works but after all that work that i've put in and i've probably put in like 100 200 hours into just setting up those parts of it with all the water cooling pieces in there there's still a persistent performance problem the chips themselves are fine they come back and they all the checks come together but what it's boiled down to is the specific server brand that it is has not put out an update to the chipset for those processors and that's just something that is i i don't know if there's a way to just go directly to the intel makes the processors and go like hey you got drivers give them to me or if it's something where you have to kind of like figure out a way to set drivers from the manufacturer of the processor and then they integrate with the board and but there's a problem the longer you use them the more the performance just starts to go and then eventually it locks up so bad you can't use it how long is this like if you do it for a couple days or is this like 10 minutes 15 minutes is about the time it starts not long enough that's not long enough to do i was like yeah you could just reset it every night so i thought this would have resolved i've done like bios updates i've done you know firmware updates i've done every update that i can that is perfect and i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god provided by the manufacturer of the server the end result i think and i'm in communication to like do a big return is to do a different server platform there's another company and i'm not naming any of them because i don't know if one works or not okay asus servers i'm going to say are the ones that are not working right now in this specific use case they have worked in other things that i've done before asus or whatever it's called and so gigabyte makes an equivalent product that has also the hyperdense four unit thing but i have to do all the water cooling i literally have to unbuild everything i've built to pull it out of the computers box those back up return these giant hundred pound gigantic boxes and then get new ones in and rebuild all the bullshit all over again which took me hours days weeks this sounds like the kind of server i wouldn't leave a tip and i always leave a tip give them a point just all right all right all right all right mark said so have you thought about talking to the server's manager i am the manager that sucks though that really sucks it's a big pain in the ass because as far as i know it should work they read fine when they're working the performance is exactly where it should be all is lining up it's not overheating i even thought that it might have been one of the peripheral components in the server overheating at one point i had a graphics card in there a very small compact one i took that out because i thought it was overheating apparently it was not the problem either and no other peripheral in there because the fans are very loud i do the water cooling also to try to quiet it down a bit they're running at full bore and it's still just crashing i think it's just because the chipset is not updated to run with those processors there's some kind of paging file system memory system error that's building up over time that's causing like consecutive errors that run into each other and then eventually it freezes sounds a little hey sucks nope nope no i give myself one for whatever that's worth but anyway so that's the process it's not all sunshine roses but half of the other render farm is still working it's just those hyper dense ones that are not working which are the most recent edition and it's it's something i can return it's just like that's ours i don't have not devastating but it's unfortunate just means i gotta undo a lot of work and redo it but it'll probably be fine once you redo it it'll probably work then yeah it probably will maybe but i do know that the gigabyte servers do have a late a more recent bios update than asus did asus last bios update is not only last year but it's like mid last year whereas gigabyte has a bios update that you can apply to the server as of earlier this year which is after the processors actually launched so i know that the old bios is not is not current as of the processors release date and these ones on the other server are so ideally that should work because the processors are fine probably i never thought i'd be a truck guy i got a ford f-150 lightning because i looked at the specs of what it could do in terms of power delivery the size of the battery is way bigger than the teslas ever were the range is not a lie those teslas all lie about their range it's it just blew my mind i would watch it and i would go like i've traveled 10 miles well surely the oh it's dropped 30 miles all right well that's fine it said i had like a 300 mile range on my tesla i got 180 at best even when i was driving like this it's just lies but this one i drive 10 miles and it's like the range estimate only dropped eight and i'm like oh thank you oh thank you now hold on the tesla wasn't lying someone took the road signs and spread them out further that wasn't the tesla's fault it's crazy because this truck has a 240 volt plug in the back of it i could run my render farm off of this truck this truck has more power than all of my backup and i can't do anything with it i could run my render farm off of this truck this truck has more power than all of my backup by three times i want to see a ford commercial with like a really nerdy dude driving his ford lightning with the render farm he's like off-roading in the mud through the woods while like video game let's plays or like processing in the back i i could i'm good i have an update on my many hobbies which one is it 3d guns 3d guns ammo farm where are we going look uh it's about the render farm it's been working delightfully finally after four floor air conditioners two wall air conditioners that sumbitch is actually staying at a steady temperature uh but the harsh realities of operating a render farm you built a freezer it's not that cold man even with all those i woefully underestimated how much cooling was necessary uh but i have another problem entirely i got my power bill oh no did the seven air conditioners raise it slightly it's been up and down because we've been testing it but we haven't been running it so the past month has been the first time it's been like running every day chugging you know beautiful renders my power bill was three thousand dollars is your solar working or yeah it is i bet you wish you were a man with five ovens instead of a man with seven air conditioners now don't you i opened up that letter you know how they show a bar graph of your like monthly usage yeah it was like oh and it's trending up as i'm testing and then this past month just astronomically somehow it like comically goes off the paper you just look at it just like you're like oh my god i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die what the fuck i don't know what the power company thinks is going on at this place um you know this place being a bathroom you're gonna get raided by swat for a render farm dude yeah no da is gonna show up and be like uh the power company thinks there's a grow farm here or something something crazy is happening so it must be drugs oh there's a farm all right you're gonna find seven 3d printers a server farm seven ac units and a bunch of 2d guns there's like a big wooden crate with like the rack in it and then just a bunch of pieces of paper with hand-drawn ak's on it this man's planning to raid the looney tunes i got a gun safe and they're like open this safe i'm like all right i'll open it and just a avalanche of papers you know mask style with all the dollars coming out for some reason they all have hand-drawn serial numbers but then their hands scratched out yeah so uh that's my update and it's only going to it's not gonna go down much in the next few months so they didn't say anything about that though because like i when we lived out there we had there was one summer where uh the really one of the really bad fire summers happened and i like we had all of our shit closed and sealed and we were running the ac just to try and keep positive pressure on our house because it was like toxic outside and our bill jumped by like 250 and the power company sent the bill and then they called and we're like are you guys okay are you good and i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like yeah there's fires and shit like i don't know it's been awful but they no one they just saw your bill and we're like all right well if they did call i didn't answer but yeah i feel like they're probably more um more into that they're gonna think you're a render dealer and call you el servo i had this idea a long time ago before i started building it a long time ago it feels like a long time ago like a year ago because with the max studios apple silicon it's very power And I did some paper math that was like the power efficiency of this cost over a period of time the cost of this like computer going on ebay and finding random stuff and the math showed me a year ago that the the power cost of the actual server grade stuff would be astronomically high and i'm like i must be doing my math wrong that can't be right and now here i am my math was right congratulations oh there's 36 000 a year on power you're saving so much my yearly power bill is gonna be 36 000 good math i can tell you it's okay you're getting that back because the server farm is very profitable i assume oh well technically it's saving me money technically i think i'm deep i think i'm deep in the red i like i don't want to go and do the math i don't want to get it would have been so much better if i just hired another company got them i oh man oh man you factor in maintenance cost i'm sure you're gonna be well into the green well maintaining it i'm not hoping to do that i'm hoping that when it dies it dies and i will just because there's no company i can send it back to i've got it from ebay so and and it's not like i don't think i can sell it back again so you spent a year working on this getting it to work you installed 70 air conditioning units you're paying 3 000 a month and your idea is when it dies it dies i i even now i'm like buying a room full of mac studios might have been the better option how much glober salt do you need for it to die in a tragic glober salt accident uh very little if i go by that one guy on reddit thought of what i was going to do which was shove glober salt inside the computers and immerse them so very little anyway sorry i gotta gotta weep a little bit here i understand i would too if i had a three thousand dollar power bill yeah i actually in in the in the past two days since we last talked i did a full redo of my whole render farm if i take a picture of it afterwards because i didn't take a picture of it during it i'll send it to the editors if i remember a lot of conditions this is never going to happen no one's ever going to see this editors invent a render farm make it look awesome it still has some wires across the floor just because of where the electricians put in plugs and the fact that it is a bathroom but it's a lot cleaner now it works a lot better it turns out if you don't shove something up against your your air conditioners that you've put in it's able to breathe and circulate air better so give those room to breathe everything's going i got the leaning tower of max studios it's great what does that mean when i picture your render farm don't take offense to this i picture c-3po after he got ripped apart and is like in the backpack or all the pieces are there but there's wires and he's like heads on backwards that's how it was before have you did you did i not show you a picture of the before i'm pretty sure i did it's a dystopian it was a dystopian cyberpunk kind of nonsense thing if i type server into my phones like pictures it doesn't come up and i'm like why wouldn't that come up i was like oh yeah because it doesn't look anything like what they would think a server looks like what's the search term to find that picture post-apocalyptic nightmare rat's nest of wires and oh there it is let me look at rat king let me look up rat king nope yeah man i can't find this uh it's a mystery apple intelligence my booty well it's working great after the rebuild right no issues yeah so you rebuilt it and nothing has gone wrong and it worked perfectly the whole time kind of it's it's not my fault of course it's not no i can't find the picture oh no anyway it's it's good except one of the things that i i dislike is these small like arbitrary details about computers that you know you have to really read the manuals to know or read in depth about reviews and anything i'm sure a bunch of people know that if you need to populate all of the ram slots for server grade hardware to run at full performance it needs all the channels filled it's expecting that so for a while these have been running with almost all of them full but not all of them for the ones that have ram slots you can't skip any slots and or it no yeah it's uh it's probably as common knowledge in the server world but i didn't know this because i'm used to like running a pc for desktop reasons and sometimes for pcs if you have only half of them filled it runs faster so it's very opposite thinking um but whatever doesn't matter not important god damn it will be the death of me because for some reason those management ports just decided to die they they're plugged in just the same they were plugged in before from one switch put them into another switch reset everything reboot everything and then just never picks up an ip address just cannot do anything i don't get it i don't understand how this stuff is supposed to be smart redundant fail safe it just oh no another another plug i can't do it on a different server i think it's probably because i didn't let go of the fixed ip on the previous device before i moved it over but i've done that before we're uh devices just pick up anyway it's it's a nightmare i know that you know that you could pay someone to do that but there's a part of my brain that would love to see you like like find an it consultant or something and be like i just need you to come i have the setup and they walk into your bathroom and they're just like oh god oh no oh and like they like pull out their laptop and plug in and they're like looking through the software they're just like oh god i'm sure it's fine but i'm sure a professional would there's not even people who build pc like just towers there's so much shit that if they looked at the way i did it and i think i do it i mean it works i've never had a pc that didn't work got all the specs i wanted out of it they would still probably just vomit out their entire lungs at what i did i can only imagine for server shit what kind of things there are that you would have no idea about there actually is a guy uh with burning tractor which is the vfx company i work with um they have this guy rory there who is a guy who is a guy who is a guy who is their it guy and so he he has worked muriel miracles for never actually stepping foot inside the server room but every time i do something i swear to god he's i see on discord that rory is typing stop rory is typing stop rory is and i know it's like stop fucking it up you fucking delete how dare you delete i know that's what's going on i know he's doing that but you know what could you do well i think that's very relatable we've all been there with our server farms i think we've all been there with fucking up networking i mean i missed the days when it was just like you have your modem from the the the internet company and i still managed to fuck that up so what was i thinking having a whole farm yeah well it doesn't make me feel good that you're doing all this shit and it's this is pretty high tech stuff and it's a complicated system with lots of different and i i have felt exactly the way that you feel but it's been me on my home wi-fi with a modem and a router and like one smart device being like oh no i connected you to the you were on the wi-fi and now you forgot oh and like but it's just me with like one light bulb being like why won't you be blue fucking light bulb but it doesn't make me feel good that i've been there but with you know kind of a different scale of technology kind of different but it's all just like that man it's weirdly applicable because the things i've learned are actually like in the it world they're like common knowledge for oh no there he goes he had it with our tech talk wade speaks for the subreddit uh but it's common knowledge apparently in it land but you know if you want your home network to work better virtual networks are the way you create a sub network just for your devices and internet of things and then you create specific rules that those connect to each other and then to your other virtual network where you operate your normal internet connection so it's separated and you don't have to worry about it and you don't have to worry about it you don't have any cross traffic from that one in your network what the fuck are you talking about yeah don't don't do it i tried to i tried to do a vlan i took down my whole network for two days i don't don't touch the vlan button it's not i'm not going to oh there's a part of me that's like oh that would be so sick though because then there wouldn't no it would not be sick it would be horrible it would be awful it would be like taking another full-time 40 hour a week job at a thing i don't know how to do and i don't need that in my life what i should do is i should uh render a 3d model of his basement and use my render farm to simulate poop water i wish you got really good at making the ocean go i know but using my computing power to make those infographics like you know news documentaries or like discovery channel shit they have a 3d rendering of what's happening wait i'm gonna make a 3d rendering of your basement and i'm a show just poop water just and and you just like you know thank you what what was the noise wade well shit is on the move out there but thankfully it's just molly cleaning up after the cat okay i would have phrased that differently shit is on the move out there thankfully it's just molly but you know so many things you've done so much cool stuff i bear apparently i don't even know the beginnings of it because my my my render farm is very powerful but it still isn't woefully under like you know at the nvidia ceo what he's talking about. The more you buy, the more you save. with his $10,000 graphics cards while he's hawking a server rack that's bigger than the shelf behind me that probably cumulatively in the whole rack costs like $10 million. And that's just to go really fast. You need a render cooperative or a render collective farm. What? What is that? A group of farms. Those are types of farms. You know, like a ground plowing kind of farm What a name that would be though. The render collective. This is my render cooperative. I have 16 garages each stacked with every bathroom in every building I have access to stuffed full of servers. I am a man with 10 garages of render farm. I have some tech complaints, but you know, those are always here to miss. I love when Mark moans about technology and so does everyone on the subreddit universally. All right. So I do have a few complaints. I had another fiber line pulled to my render farm, right? You know, how basic do I need to break this down? Line of fiber. Are you asking me or Wade? If anyone has an objective, because it's a line the internet comes in on and goes out on for a lot of people. We're actually not as many as there should be. Most people have a cable, which is still everyone's internet touches fiber optic. At some point, it just usually, there's a junction at some point where it switches from your hard line to your fiber optic. Yeah. It's the internet. It's the fast kind. So you can get your own fiber going between yourself. You could set up your whole house networking with fiber if you really wanted to. You can do that, and it would be very fast, efficient networking. It's just that they're very fragile. And you hated having money in your bank account. Yeah, yeah. And if any rat even touches a wire, they'll crack it in half or they'll nibble on it and chill. Oh, the internet's gone. Oh, an actual rat. I thought you meant like a really shitty person. Any of you fucking rats touching my wires. I see two paths for you. That's opening my ceiling. I'm going to rule you with fear or I'm going to rule you with love and you're not going to like that. Anyway, so anyway, I started shooting my ceiling. Fiber. I had two, because I wanted a redundancy because there's a single connection going to my render farm right now. And if that breaks, then no one can use it or I have to go in there, but there's no computer set up. It's all remote access, right? So if that breaks, even I can't use it because I tell my computers or I access it remotely. Yep. So I had another fiber line pulled and this one I was like, I want 100 gigabit lines and 100 gigabit because I was like, okay, that was cheap to install. Well, it's actually not that much more. The most cost is in laying the conduit and pulling it. I guess that's fair. The cable may cost like twice as much per foot or something like that, but still most of the work is in the labor of getting it from A to B. I think that's fair. So they did it. I had them dig it really nice and the whole pipe and then, you know, it gets all said and done and I go to the server closet and I look at the cable and I'm like, pick up the other cable that they put in this 10 gigabit one and I hold them up next to each other. I'm like, fuck! It's, they pulled two, two cables through this fucking enormous thing and they're not 100! Anyway, so that's the only complaint I have about that and this is more of a complaint with a particular company than anything, but it's like, I'll say this thing. I'll say these things and like the people that, you know, come to the house because it's like a house and they're like, and I'll say, I want 100 gigabit and they're like, you know what he needs, 100 gigabit, that's crazy. I want a jillion gigabits, this guy. I want a billion dollars. Okay, yeah, all right. And so they're like, I'll just pull, I'll just fiber which is perfectly good. At this point, you have like three government satellites aimed at your house at all times. Probably, probably. I have, I have an unbelievable amount of random bullshit going on here and to confirm what- They sent the bear. Yeah, yeah, the bear. Yeah, the bear could fuck things up real fast. Anyway, I was just like, God, I just wish people would take me seriously sometimes because I'm saying what I mean. I am, I don't know everything about everything I'm doing, but when I say I want 100 gigabit and they'll say like, well, you, you need to get really expensive. Infrastructure to even handle 100 gigabit. And then I go, I know! Because I bought it! Way ahead of you, dude. But I have it! Plugging it into the thing! Anyway. I have a render farm update. It's not going to be exciting. I'll take a nap immediately. So in my experience, I have had many ups and downs with the render farm, especially in terms of like how to get the computer in there, what format. And I'm circling back to this crazy thing that's going to make a lot of people mad. Glower salts! No, no, no. Okay. Don't even need it. I've very much become like no water cooling at all unless it's like an all-in-one. And even then, I would rather have an air cooler because it's just going to be consistent. At least I guess that the fan fails, but usually you can have two on them. I was so proud of my ability to go on eBay and find these crate. Wade? Nah, it's fine. I don't know. I was so proud of my ability to go on eBay, you know, much like the Cincinnati Bengals. Cincinnati. I was just going to write a sign that said Wade loses a point for every minute he sleeps while Mark talks, so it's good that you woke up. Anyway, so I did not know this, but you know, the Intel chip that everyone seemed to not review very well that I've been like, it's actually very good. They make a workstation grade motherboard for that that takes error correcting RAM and it's the same fucking price as a normal, well, a high-end, but a high-end normal desktop motherboard and why this is huge is error correcting RAM is very important on a server, especially if you're running a long time is because when it's doing calculations that are very precise it needs to not have wrong numbers in the memory that leads to bad issues and it's. There's a lot of reasons why it would happen, why it doesn't happen, but error correcting RAM corrects it, and so it makes it really, really uncommon for those to happen. But it's also stupendously cheaper than even the discounted server hardware I was getting online. It is stupendous and it's more power efficient and it's like, and I look at it and I'm like, ah, what was I fucking thinking with this stupid render farm? So yeah, I'm going to be overhauling it because now that Iron Lung is wrapping up I'm gonna, I'm gonna get it out of my bathroom. I'm gonna get it out of the bathroom and then I'm gonna move it around and move it so that it could be, because it was always a stopgap. It was always like, this is urgent. I gotta do this right here in this bathroom. There's no other place to do it, apparently. And then, you know, then one thing led to another. But I'm gonna be moving it, I'm gonna be selling stuff and then I'm gonna convert it to a much more optimized, streamlined, and this is once again where I'm like, people, like, again, you just don't be loyal to AMD or Intel. Buy what is useful in the moment and holy shit, I can, like, they're so discounted because no, no one wants to get them because the two frames per second, it gets less than the other ones. Who cares? It is such a good productivity chip. It's so good. I'm doing overhaul to that. So I got some computer parts coming in. Well, that's fun. It's very fun. I've already sold a couple things back. So technically, I'm up, except I paid for them before so I'm dead. Create stunning light effects then switch it up with the tap of your fingers. But you got that money back. Full price, I'm sure. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Man, people are tearing apart my render farm on, like, the summer. But at Homelab, people are really not. People are freaking it. And I shared the picture because I know it's bad, guys. I know it's. Oh, wait, that was real? That was a real picture? Oh, yeah. You thought that was. Yeah. No, that's it. It's just like, look, guys, it was a. I learned as I went. It's not pretty, but fuck, it works. Look, guys, it works. It. That shit fucking flies. And people need to understand it's not just for, like, rendering video or encoding video. That's not what it's for. It's not even just for rendering the CG scenes, which you can do very well. It's purpose-built for distributed simulations. Simulations need a lot of compute power. And to do it efficiently, this is the best way that I've gotten so far to do it. It's not the best way ever. It's the best way I could manage myself. And let me tell you, all those people out there, they were like, why didn't you hire a professional to do this? I tried. They came in and I said, yeah, I want to put a server in my bathroom. And then they go, fuck you. And they leave. They don't do. They don't do it. They don't do it. So yeah, that's it. So my childhood thing, actually, that I do still to this day is something that I. I cultivated again because I was building the render farm. And I know that sounds weird, but my dad always had computers ever since I was a kid. And so for a very long time, I was the type that was like, he got computer magazines. He got like the Micro Center Mall like advertisement thing. And so I would. After he was done with that, I would go through and look like, oh yes, I'll take. Take $1,000. hard drive 30 you know this five-year-old me just like oh yeah a 30 megabyte hard drive oh a 10 pack of floppies for only 29.99 well i'll take two you know uh so now that i'm i'm i'm back in building render farm and i'm done with the movie now so i i now i'm just like what computer can i upgrade what needs an upgrade like i caught a whiff that there were new intel processor's coming out and it's like oh yeah all right i probably need that i probably i probably could do with an upgrade to my main computer i can build another one you want to build another one so it's just like i just desperate desperately looking around for anything that i can build and anything that i can tinker because it's just like it's just tinkering with legos but with expensive computer equipment you are a great candidate for a hobby i've been trying to teach myself about and i'm too stupid apparently to do very well have you looked into home lab stuff i was on the home lab subreddit they were making fun of my render oh they were burning your red of your friend well some of them were just like no wait actually this is what this subreddit is all about really shitty setups this guy you can't make fun of him and meanwhile he's saying that i'm like oh ah you don't look i'm still getting hit here man seriously though the people on the on the home lab subreddit who are like scoffing at people who scrabble things together and have janky at what is a home lab it's not supposed to be some janky shit where you're like i have these weird random components let me see what i can make with them it's great and the people who are chill about it are cool the people who are on reddit about it are not that janky shit held the number one movie for 71 and a half out of 72 hours that's true baby that's true what i will say is uh about that some people were looking at all the mac studios and was like oh clearly that's not a deal tell you something about mac even if you don't like it that shit holds its resale value like crazy and you better believe i'm gonna sell those things now that i'm done with the movie so i only got them for this for this thing so i cannot fucking believe how expensive like an m1 mac mini still is like you'd think like oh that's really old but it's an apple silicon chip and but it's like oh that's like a five-year-old compact computer like 300 400 500 bucks depending on the specs and what it's like what the fuck you might as well just buy new stuff god damn that's the crazy thing is because i bought this i mean it was still the ai craze but then people discovered that hey these macs are actually really good for ai bullshit and i'm not using it for that i'm using it for efficient rendering but the resale value i might make money on these i'm gonna make money on some mac studios it's crazy so the render farm is no more whoa okay it's a little underwhelming it's gone i mean it is big it is big news but it's it's gone i feel like it's been that's just a part of life wow fucking god why are you acting like you're not listening when i know you hear what we're talking about i am listening i'm reacting oh okay so yes the render farm has left the bathroom i know that is a big deal and you burned it in a bonfire in your backyard i covered it in salt which as we know very flammable extremely flammable one of the big problems that everyone is trying to warn me about when i stuffed it inside my servers it's hard to get up when you're old it's moving to an actual not a bathroom like yeah wait you all right oh yeah this is about me it's about you go on anyway it's it's moving to a place that actually should have a render farm a server room a real real deal server room purpose built specifically for that oh fuck what is happening under his desk we got a molding men are tunneling up from his basement floor what the fuck is happening i just squirted water all over well geez man don't do that i'm really trying to stick with the story of this one mark's render farm is going to a real room like a big boy and i'm selling uh some of it because with the current computer prices and ram prices don't give me that face weight very high oh man you're not lying uh there's some extra stuff that i think i'll try to sell might even make some money off of what i got off ebay for that i don't understand what's happening with wade i gotta be honest i'm super distracted right now okay so my what i do right now is like okay let's say making movies or whatever it's like making entertainment that's a lot of different disciplines involved in it that's why i constantly come out like i bought a graphics card boohoo you know i i built a render farm boohoo you know glower salts you know lenses boohoo does that count of like having a job that requires a bunch of skills i mean technically it's your job so i can't argue it but you can never stop this is easy i don't want to stop i want to slide into my grave i don't think he's going to stop yeah slide into my 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