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Berto Colon Remembers Lorenzo Tejada, Working w/ Taylor Sheridan + Colin Farrell Ep. 91 | The Crew Has It

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Berto Colon Remembers Lorenzo Tejada, Working w/ Taylor Sheridan + Colin Farrell Ep. 91 | The Crew Has It

The speaker recounts his evolving career in acting, beginning with early struggles and learning through self-taping. He emphasizes that consistency, comfort, and collaboration—especially with experienced professionals—were crucial in improving his craft. Key turning points include the impact of industry strikes, which disrupted work but ultimately led to breakthrough roles such as in *Night Agent* and *Yellowstone*. He deeply respects veteran performers like Colin Farrell, whose mastery of language and physical presence served as a masterclass, and Taylor Sheridan, whose real-world background in ranch culture informed the authenticity of *Yellowstone*. The speaker notes how these experiences built not just skills, but confidence and resilience. He also shares personal anecdotes about on-set dynamics, cultural challenges in international filming (like in Serbia and Poland), and the emotional connection he forms with fellow actors, such as Woody and Latoya. Throughout, he underscores the importance of authenticity, preparation, and staying grounded in one’s truth. He reflects on how acting is both a technical and emotional journey, shaped by real-life experiences, resilience, and community. The narrative concludes with admiration for the craft, the people behind it, and the global connections that define modern storytelling.

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Went up to his room and I knocked on the door and I asked if I can just take a minute of his time Mm-hmm, and I literally asked him I said Ian. I'm sorry to bother you But you know, I'm so and so and I'm trying to mean what would you advise me to do? And he very gracefully took my CD. I gave him a CD with my highlight tape and just simply told me Sun there is no pattern for this Last ones of the airport by breakfast Who do we have back here today? Oh boy. Oh boy, man We got my god-birdle come on back. We had a great episode first time he pulled up Chopped it up with the boys you guys got to run down on how he got into power, you know all the cool stuff now We got the cool stuff. We got to just say him chop it up. Yeah, he got a crazy show that he's right now Killing it. He's been killing ever since, you know You know Lorenzo's the Mars I'm saying so the guy the guys are his back. That's my guy. Thank you. You might be the busiest man Yeah, it's funny. You might be one of the busiest men like sense power I'm very very blessed very blessed men all I all we ever want to do is continue all we want is continuation that's success That signifies stability signifies so much and yeah, man It's it's been there but there were some little holes in between like nine months of year But overall, you know night agent the penguin and then fucking cut and ranch and and AHS with the American horror story so it man Gracias, you know, just thank God because you know, that's all we want that's all we want we just want to continue to build what the fuck are you doing in your tapes? Yeah, man, what are you doing? I need I need his message seriously the tapes the tapes dude that was I'm sure everyone we all have stories about those tapes Let me tell you what a rough learning curve. I had with those tapes. They were not fun for me Yeah, no, they were a struggle. I mean, I probably could have I almost caused a divorce, you know like I'm not even kidding It was I tried to employ my wife a couple times. Yeah, and that doesn't work And then through the blessings and through things experiences here and there I found the guy that I that I continue to tape in the city for a while Then my you know, that was like two years of it And I felt like there was an improvement because then once you're with someone that you don't know Right or someone that you're paying for their for their time You have to be over prepared ready to go and I can't be reading alright, so it kind of it evolved because then there was Looking at this stuff and then which one do I send what tape do I select? Mm-hmm have your performance now you already know what it is two three takes of each depending on what it is and go But it was a process is the point and and and now luckily enough the last three years Actors playground and free life on the spot and free home, New Jersey Nice, and my daughter was taking classes there and because of the fact that she took classes they offered the self tape service Nice, and I am the one paying for classes, so they offered it to me and it's been great Have you okay? Have you seen something Multiple times or a consistency when doing a tape and when booking yeah, so consistency? What's the the detail? I think that there's a level of Comfort that I have where literally is just Almost like throwing it away. Yeah, right? All the technique I think the technical stuff is down now like as far as direction where you're looking where you're at You know the intent intentionality or where do you place to go all all that stuff? That was another learning process But for the most part the the key has been Complete comfort and just throwing shit away so try trying to get as close to it is is you know our days on set right like I mean Realistically, we don't get a lot of a lot of time to rehearse our stuff when you're on television And then when we get to set that day we have like maybe you know five ten minutes before if we get there early enough When you go to the room and that morning like I always envisioned Woody and and Latoya and and My goodness am I really gonna love hell There was a few guys No, but we would get there on time and you know what my self tape here's what the point was my self tape is that morning meeting before any of us Had to like get ready. Oh If I can give you a right so we were already because we're gonna shoot in two three hours and it was almost live It was almost already it was already taking shape So that's what the self tape is is that little rehearsal that we have before You know like that day You've already got the job right it's happening. There's nothing you know you have this great We have everything just going right and of course. This is why that point of the reader before is important right you're actually working with Professionals too. Yeah, and I think that you know at least sitting at home and reading something by yourself all the time versus Another thing that's helped is like no matter what it is I start doing that shit with somebody right away Yeah, like I don't try to sit home and memorize by myself in some corner. Yeah, it never works for me never never never So that's a key what it is about just I think having someone else reading with you like It's like a cue for what you got to say it's a conversation. Yeah, you get destruction. Yeah, it's a conversation It's what it is. It's exactly what you're going to do So might as well learn it in that like with that's what that in mind. So yeah, that's that's that's what I would say Okay, so right after ghost. Yeah, was it night agent or penguin first? so I Think it was a little bit of a hiatus there was a there was a there was a Strike if you remember there was a strike. There were some other issues with kind of cooked us for like a year and a half and ironically enough Yeah, it was night agent. It was that Friday after the I think it was the I had auditioned. I guess a week or so or two weeks prior to when the strike was going to end The thing with penguin had already been happening. I already had gotten penguin after the ghost But the strike affected it a little bit. So there was a little bit of like extended period that we we had to have for that and then some Some reshoots and whatnot But that strike you know besides the penguin it was like it was a very short while That was three months and then there was like a year and seven months kind of like Imagine setting your makeup then forgetting it's even theirs Meet new grippy setting mist from Maybelline, New York Gel to miss technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours with flexible all-day comfy grip no tightness No stickiness no residue just plum. Do we hydrated skin that still feels like your skin try new grippy setting mist from Maybelline New York Maybe it's Maybelline Between ghost and night agent with a little three month, right? period with penguin and As soon as the strike ended that Friday I read and the rest is history right like the callback came fairly quick The studios in the city were not even open. So I met with the showrunner the casting director and the director At an apartment that was I guess somebody's property Wow big apartment downtown with a like a rec room or something in the and that's where we we set up Wow, and then out So that was Thanksgiving right around Thanksgiving, right and We have anything no vacations planned that year been a year in house as daddy worked You know like whatever this thing happened Thanksgiving. I knew I had the job We went out went to Puerto Rico and then in January I went to Thailand and it was crazy and it's been it's been a bit of a role ever since Was it rob a a D on that? Yes, yes, you got out rob shot out Rob. Yeah Rob is the man He was enemy picks from super important that process. He was there with with the showrunner and the couple of the directors and you know That is that's an amazing feeling. Yeah, he was in Thailand the whole episode one. Yeah, he must feel yeah, oh he was he was It's one of the best AD no, he's he's legit and he was so well so welcoming and so so so you know He's he worked it us before and he's a fan and he supports, you know, that's that's so okay It the strike happens right the strike happens. I'm solo and I'm like fuck like you have a family What is what's going through your mind like it you know Here's what went through my mind gee. I I had been at lows in my life before with them as a man My pride was definitely heard before and my wife carried me from some time I was bartending in New York City and I've already seen the the bad side of what that is No, no matter what I'm doing better, you know, no matter what I'm always doing better Yeah, and if it happens, I've already dealt with it. So why wouldn't I deal with it again? That's what I thought yeah, I don't want to be You know humbly speaking like fuck that like no, we don't want to revisit that But that's what I thought about I thought about the fact that it's already happened. I already lived it So if I have to do it again, I'll get through it again Yeah, I know I guess it is kind of a little different. I mean loft and talk about this a little bit how he would like he Before power. Yeah, he He was on ballers. Yeah, I had to like work a normal job or whatever I have to so it's like it might be tough to be on ghosts or be on power and then like fuck like I might have to you know Dude, it's a massive check on your ego. It's a massive check on your confidence. It's a massive check on You know your manhood right like it's like But there are things that you can't control and things and you cannot control right I don't have a family so I can stretch a dollar Yeah, you like I just think it's so much harder as an actor to sustain like a whole family and Josh Peck talked about that on an episode. He does a lot of social media stuff. And he's like, it's given me the freedom to have a family because he's not worried about the next job. He's like, as an actor, when you're an actor, it's like, that's your next job. - Yeah, that's your next, yeah. You know, my wife and I always have this conversation about how she doesn't know how I can do this because for her not having a security or having something every week, I think the security for me comes in the confidence that I have and the fact that I know how I can do this work. - I'm under books. - And knowing that, we know, you know, when you get to be number one to call she, that puts you in a different game, which we're all going to get there. But there's this thing that you just believe that those low times are coming. I mean, I'm sure for you right now, this is a bit of a hideous thing, right? - Yeah, for sure. - I mean, you gotta be smart with your money, obviously. Love the fact that you're very adamant about that, bro, as a young person, that's a very, very positive message that you always add with. - I tried. - Where's 22? - He's writing the roles. - Yeah, yeah. And you know, we just have to, we just have to live to the best of, you know, we gotta always prepare. You should always just be prepared, you know what I mean? - Yeah. - Okay, so Penguin, come here. I have so many questions. - Yeah. - So your scenes, you had scenes with Confer, all right? - Every single time I was in set was with him. And yeah, that was pretty, I mean, the role was somewhat of a small role. He was, he was part of one of the enforces of the Falcom family. It was only two, three episodes, but yeah, I got to work with him for two or three episodes that I forgot now. But it was every day just watching a master class and arguably the biggest move start in the world. - Yeah. - Top five. - Yeah, was there anything that he was doing on set that you took from him or? - So first and foremost, as an Irish person, the fact that he speaks the way he speaks. And then he took that accent of like that, you know, old 50s, 40s, Italian mobster, like, you know, Gotham, like, just the mastery of the language. I've always been an awe with him about that because he does speak within Irish, you know, with an Irish role. So that to me is master, you know what I mean? That intention to be able to kind of change your mode of speech and still stay. So intense and focused, you know, we never. And we had some great moments, obviously, I got to watch him a lot and both him and Christy, Christy Melotti. - Yeah. - They want the, they want the. - Do you want an enemy? - They want to go, go gloves, I think they go gloves. - Oh, go gloves. - Yeah. - That show. - Do you see, do you see Ben-guign? - That's not like. - I've seen like. - One, two episodes, you know what I mean. - Yeah. - I'm the worst at watching, say the way. I got bad attention, but I watched something, I fall off. - Yeah, I'm the. - And I'm like, "Damn, I gotta spend the bad." - As an actor, is it different, but. - I think it's a sign that something, when something grips you, as an actor and doing the work that we do, we know it's done. - Yeah. - Yeah. - We know it's done. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But yeah, dude, I mean, I got. I tell you a story, like, that suit that he had, that was a fool on naked body. That scene, I'm literally fucking. So the way it goes, we knew that it was going to be a torture scene. He's gonna come out. They're willing him out and this fool get up, fully naked. I mean, his hammer toes were also prosthetic. Everything was prosthetic. Everything, everybody, everything, his nose, his mouth. Like, you saw that. I mean, that costume, that was incredible, right? And the scene requires me to put the fucking gun in his mouth. And right up to the moment where I have to do that, the first rehearsal, like, you know, we're warming up. He just. I went up gingerly as a rehearsal, and he just shoved the fucking thing in his mouth. And we did it, like a scene, with the gun in his mouth. I'm holding a fucking gun inside of Colin Farrell's mouth. That's fucking crazy. And just holding it and just, like, kind of torturing him and just fucking. And then there's. They have a go-road, isn't that they call it? The wire is supposed to be cutting his go-road, go-road. Dude, that dude is a beast, bro. Like, there's just diving into something like that and being part of watching that process, as well as you being part of your own process inside of that. Yeah, that was. Vlad was on that show, too. Vlad was on that. He's a writer, co-producer and writer. Yeah, shout out to Vlad. Vlad was a writer on. Did he produce one of the seasons of Ghosts? Maybe. No, yeah, all the writers were. They're all co-producers. I mean, my understanding is that they're all co-producers. Shout out, Vlad. Yeah, no, dude. And he got married recently, so shout out. Congratulations. He did a lot of the original power, too. Yes, and he did a lot of the original power, as well. Yeah, no, yeah. The reading, the first reading he was there. We did the reading in the Bronx, that states that they opened, that they opened the Steinway or something in the Bronx. And he was there, crazy, they had the Penguin's car, four or five live cameras. The table was almost like 60 people. Oh, they filmed the. Damn, they filmed the table read, and Colin was in a fucking ski mask. When he read, that's fine. That's right, because I took it as, I don't want people getting used to. Or at least, I don't want people getting used to what I look like in this accent, as I'm reading. He couldn't be in prosthetics, or he couldn't have any other makeup, but he did with a ski mask. How long did the prosthetics take? Because he told. He's mentioned it a couple of times, and he were from four to five hours prior. And at least the same after. To get everything off. And dude, the guy was inside, every time he was on, every day that he was on and off, on and off, on and off. I would be like, "Can we just go with 20-hrower straight? I can't take it." Dude, I mean, I'm sure the way they set it up, that's why I'd look, the fact that he had pulled the time aside to do the series was a huge commitment with someone like him, who's like, "I mean, I love you, watch sugar, because it's non-stop." And it was intense, and you can tell, but this was his thing. To pull Penguin first out of that Batman world, because he was captivating in the movie, I mean, he's almost. They made a whole show about this guy, so it was a big commitment. It was a big masterclass, I would say. Okay, so Ben, you do a couple things in between, you did American Horror Story? No, American Horror Story is now, AHS 13, I just happened, you know, but then after that there was a bit of a hiatus between Penguin and Night Agent, and there were a few things that I was close for. I think I've read for every one of Taylor's shows at this point. Really? I've read for Marshalls, I've read for Landman, I've read for Lioness, I've read. Is it all the same cast and director? Yes, it's John Papsidaris. Oh, okay, yeah, I've read for Yellowstone, I've read for him. Yeah, yeah, and he's phenomenal. I mean, the guy, they have their vision, they know what they're looking for, and you know, if it didn't work out for any other other things, it was because it was meant to be for this one. I'm very happy that it worked out for Dunning. It always is that way. It always is what it is. I told you the last time, I read for Tommy, like, fucking gazillion years ago. Before, you know, and then I had read for Courtney two or three more times because, having way, the director, Anthony Anthony was in two other casting calls. I think there were Courtney's projects that didn't work out, but a couple callbacks, and then when he was there for this one. Did you read for Julio? No. In the original power? No. Oh, you know what? I read for what's that other one? I read for Cabeza. The other Spanish, the other Spanish, guys. The one that was his name that, afterwards, it was like, I read for the other, the other, like, I read for the, you know, Tommy, it was a main role, and then I read for a couple of supporting roles. Yeah, yeah. But none of those work out of us. Yeah, I mean, it was meant to be. It was meant to be. It was meant to be. It was supposed to be Lorenzo. Yeah, it was supposed to be Lorenzo. So, yeah, I mean, this world that we're in, it's crazy. It is crazy. We must be massacists. Honestly, we must love the fucking punishment. I swear to God. 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They wanted to know my experience. 'Cause you know, people be lying about, yeah, shit that they've done. - Oh yeah. - And they mean business. Like, have you written a horse before? 'Cause if you haven't. And it's not necessarily that it's gonna put you out. It just means that, oh, we might have to call this guy two weeks earlier. And he might have to be a cowboy camp for two weeks. So, or it may mean that they don't want to, I mean, I don't know. I would rather on the side of caution. But yeah, you know, now knowing what I know, just let people know what's up. Or lie with confidence. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Like, and then getting your own horse. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And then go do it again. - And then get in your own horse. - Go try it out. 'Cause then now you know, maybe in a week or two, you're about to like step into some shit. - So then you're not gonna set a waste in fucking five hours 'cause everybody's day and now you fucking-- - You don't have to be, you don't have to be Rodriguez. You don't have to be a jockey right off the bat. Like, you just have to know. - So what did you tell them? You said-- - Oh, I knew. My father was a, we grew up in rodeos for like three or four years. - Wow. - Truthfully in Puerto Rico. And we were too little, right? To participate in any kind of events. But my father was a legit roaper, like solar roaper. And we were with him for the feedings. They're taking care of the horse. And of course, the events. And, you know, you know, watching him train his horse, all of that's exactly what I was, what I went into when I got to-- - I mean, so this was always meant to be. - I guess you can say that, G, but you know what? Maybe, maybe, maybe. I, for me to be able to bring something full circle like that, that is on it 'cause I would have never thought that that was ever gonna serve a purpose. - I mean, when I, I didn't know that about you, so when I saw you got cast on Yellowstone, I'm like, wow, I was so happy for you. - Right. - I called you, but I was like, wow. Like, that's not something you would expect. Penguin, I get. Night agent, I'm like, yeah. I'm like, Yellowstone, really? - I'm like, I wonder what he's gonna play. - I had to go play a cowboy city, the city kid, you know? I mean, we grew up in the city. This is an urban, you know, racist. - Right. - And we have all kinds of crazy shit here, but you step into that role. It's a different world, man. - So did you have talks with Taylor? - I knew I'd have him at the guy out, I'm hoping. - Yeah. - So he didn't direct or anything? - He wasn't around the life of this production because I think he was in the middle of writing three other shows, right? He's, I mean, the guy is a beast, he has a machine. He's a machine, man. You know, you know, we know the new deal that he got with NBC Universal over a billion dollars, and I mean, the guy is, but this is what they don't understand. The man locks himself in a cabin and writes for like three, four months at a time. Like, this is, we got to see now that he's reaping the rewards and his process. - But the process. - And he's actually a real, like, dude, he rise horses, he cuts, he roaps, he's a real, like, this is his world. And he wanted to make shows about this lifestyle and this world and kind of pay homage to what it is that he loves. That's as simple as, and the guy is legit, like, that's his deal. - So basically, he was on "Sounds of Anarchy." - Yes, how? He, the next season, he asked for more money. He has for like three grand more, something like this. And they said no. And he was, he's like, I'm done with the show. And they're like, yeah, okay. He's like, the biggest show on television. He's like, no, I'm done with the show. He left. And then he came back, like, what, five? - And then he writes "Secario." - Yeah. - "Secario." - "Wind River." - "Wind River." - Yeah, I mean, the dude is, you know, the guys, he just-- - He came back pissed. - They made him a villain, but he's like, "Oh, I got some freedom." - Literally. - 'Cause it's like, look, I'm not gonna, you know, can you imagine? Like, I mean, someone that wants to do something so bad and then you, you know, so he had to create it for himself and to have the balls to do that. - Yeah. - And then he did "Yellow Stone" and to be successful with it at the same time. - And to, I mean, to command the level of respect and the level of success that he now commands. I mean, this is kind of like, I mean, that's it. Like, now, you want me to billion bucks. - He's so great. - You got me for 10 years. - Yeah. - And you got 10, 12 shows. Whatever you got for it. And I know that I'm gonna spit out fire. And if it isn't fire, then whatever you do, what, it's up to you. I'm going, he will. - Well, he's, he's Madison, that showed the Madison that he's gonna get a bunch of Emmys. - Yeah, incredible. And he's getting, and who in Hollywood doesn't want to work with him? - Yeah. - Well, he's worth pebbing, I don't believe him. - I mean, he's gonna get every, every, he's gonna get the older generation, the older, you know, the legends. He's gonna have the middle of the, the middle of the field and he's gonna have all these new people that he's putting on as well, you know? - I heard this is what he do at Billy Bob Thornton. He was like, he went up to him and he was like, I want you to play your role in "Bad Santa." You've seen "Bad Santa." - No, yeah. - Never? Oh, it's so good. He's like, I want you to be the same guy you are in "Bad Santa." But I want you to work as an oil guy like on a farm in Texas. Or an oil Reagan Texas, and he's like, all right. But he's like, I haven't written it yet. So I haven't written it yet. So tell me if you want to do that, and then I'll write it. And he's like, yeah, I'll do it. - He's back. - He wrote it that way. - I'll do it later, and then one of the biggest shows in television, I mean. - And Lamen is insane. That's a really captivating show. It's in that world is very captivated, very interesting. You know, and being in Dallas for like, since September 25th till April of this past year, like February, April, February, March, maybe March. Dallas is a special place, bro. - Where you shot it in Dallas? - So all of the, so all of the done rents was done. And well, part of it was, the beginning was when they were leaving Yellowstone, some of that was Wyoming, right? But most of it was all in Dallas, where we're at, yeah. - What was the difference being on set of ghosts and being on the set of Yellowstone? It's got to be vastly different. - I mean, look, we had, we were shooting in a city in the studios, shooting out in Brooklyn, you know, we were pretty much, we were a city show. That was a city experience. - So familiar for you, right? We're all super familiar, like, you know, we're home. This is the same level of professionalism, right? The same level of expertise, every single department, but it's out in this vast open field. Like, we would get to go to these massive ranches, like, you know, Taylor owns a Bosky Ranch with the four sixes. And that serves as a backdrop for a lot of the stuff that he does, not only on our show, but on all his shows. And there's like, you know, maybe two, I don't know, a couple of zip codes inside of this ranch. And there's wood back there. And he owns it, all right? - And he owns it all. He owns the animals. He owns, he's the boss of the people that take care of the animals, the facilities. So it's like this machine that just kind of feeds itself. - Yeah. - But it's, it's, I think it's perfect because what he needs in order to create something like that is has to be, you can't go and recreate this in a lot in California. - No, no shot, no shot. - You have to have all the elements that are available in a place like that and like these little towns, like towns and like Ferris, Texas or these small little areas that have all these, you know, the Texas is a character too. - Right. I mean, it's the same thing, like you can't shoot power in just any way. - No, you can't shoot the animals. - I mean, you have to shoot in just any way. - It has to be the back, has to be the real essence of the real place in order to get kind of like, I feel kind of, it's a very grounded thing. I don't know how to say like, Texas is a character in this show. - Yeah. - That's why. - Everything, you know, like, you know, the, the, I mean, if you think of like iconic, like movies, like, like, when Harry Met Sally, like, it's, that you need, it is a character. - Bro. - American history as we, American cinema, as we know it, began with Westerns. - Yeah. Like those were the first movies that were ever shot. Yeah, we all owe Something to those to those for you know John Wayne used to be I'm going to admit it anymore I used to my friends at home in the Bronx used to make fun of me I had a I had a poster of John Wayne that I think my father had somewhere my grandfather had somewhere And I don't know for some reason watch that guy's movies watches like the craziness that guy was insane Yeah, so yeah, you know, it's my little my little geeky moment, but I feel like we all oh a lot To this world. Yeah, this is what started cinema for All intents and purposes, you know, did he write every episode? I believe I think he's I mean, he's been public about the fact that he's this was not something that he was in Constantly, I'm sure he oversaw, but Chad Feeham was the showrunner and one of the main writers Christina Voros You you work with her. Yeah And a few others, but yeah, yeah, this was a much smaller. I would say much smaller Riders room with with Taylor's idea or you know, but the Chad Feeham was so you you booked it as a recur this was a guest star with a minimum at first with a with an opportunity to do more nice And so did every episode where you like I might die I might let me tell you mean not to reveal too much But yeah, I know like we didn't know what was gonna. We know was gonna yeah, and you know, it's it's it's public knowledge now that we We had a bit of a hiatus when you know, we had to there was some Unfortunately our showrunner exited towards the last two, but Christina was there the producers were there and they finished the show But yeah, I didn't know I didn't know you know, it was like okay first four next to next to next to it's kind of wild You get the script you're like yeah, and it's like the first thing you know about that Yeah, and you know, I knew that there was the character had a pivotal arc not obviously it's not Rip and Beth right and then you have other characters like Joaquin and and and and Rob Will and You know other and an ad and Ed who are central to the story as well because they kind of represent a little bit of a backstory of what Rip and Beth went into yeah, like the place before is Has to do with Ed and and that's character because they're from that place So it had to be kind of like I was saying to you earlier a little bit of a check on my ego But I knew that there was an interesting through line with him because he was he was sort of there to oversee some of the operation But yeah, he wasn't a boss. He was connected to to this underworld Yeah, was it like he's cuz you didn't shoot in my homing at all not at all I so when I got there that those portions were done already in the first few episodes right like I think that's just episode It's just a very small portion episode one and then I know I want to shoot in my homing so bad It looks so what's my homing last year bro? It was fire. It was amazing. Yeah, it was amazing I went on like a like a retreat like a retreat for like like I was skiing or anything or right now It was just um literally like it was just on a big range Okay, we went like fly fishing with the shoe guns. Yeah, yeah, I know that stuff. Yeah, and um, it was just it was fine Imagine shooting your show there for like eight months. Yeah, that's fire We were there for like three days. I was like y'all don't want to leave mind you We didn't have no inch and I know why five for three days, and that was the first time in like in my life I'm I don't even care like I don't even want you need it you need that it's so crazy like that that separation from that It's crazy how much it really does grip us and we're missing out we're missing out. It's so peaceful It is. It is so peaceful. The Madison had the Madison brought that element of what that of that you know because that's where they shot You know Madison my homing right? I think that's the reason I think so. Yeah, yeah, and Let me tell you man that There's not that show is beautiful to watch. Yeah, and that's what it is. It's that entire character, so he's he signed a deal with Peacock with NBC NBC Universal So you're but your show is on Paramount. Yeah, so he you know his intellectual property for Paramount will that's you know from my Understanding of that deal that's there and it continues to be there till whatever. I mean, I don't know, you know, it's a much higher Pay rate for me to try to understand but from what I do understand of it like all his intellectual IP add Paramount will stay yeah for a certain amount of years and I guess new developments We'll be NBC Universal. Yeah, I hope I hope you get to listen to direct. I'm happy to I'm happy to just be part of this like I said it takes it takes It took you know like I read for all the other shows and I read for Marshall's too, which I thought was really fucking phenomenal that that that that pile was good Mm-hmm. I was excited because I read for young Rip Wheeler on the Yellowstone pilot on the pilot who's a flashback scene and Weirdly they because Taylor also probably wasn't as big as he is now and then so when they sent the script It was like only like a couple scenes, but I read it and I was like this is gonna be a massive hit yeah, and even my team was like I was like no, this is gonna be a massive fan. I've only ever done that with two shows and it was right. Yeah, no That's one of the shows in television. I mean Kevin Cosner and all the cast and then those those characters. I mean rip rip and bath like Kelly and Kelly and Kohler. He's great at writing. He's great. It's so good And I feel like when he knows the temperament of the Person the character like he's the language fits. Yeah, the temperament of the of the per or the character that he's creating with that with the person Yeah, you know, do you still get recognized as Lorenzo a lot? I do that's it's I always owe a big big part of all my success going forward to that Character's I feel yeah, I had especially in the city and I have gotten him kind of random and random places outside here Like I couldn't believe in Dallas people knew all for sure and on the set, you know like there were days when I And we loved him like I just didn't I didn't expect that going Dallas But it is it's universal. It's it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy And from time to time people will bring up Cesar too from orange, but that was another one of those kind of People assume that these shows are like a specific one demographic, but they cross. Oh, of course, you know How many guys in New York City are watching Dutton? And it's like they know yeah We actually just saw old clip of of you the last crew has it episode and you guys are talking about how you did orange is new black together But you didn't work there. Yeah, I know we didn't but that would yeah, you worry 11 or 12 I was a yeah, I was like good. I don't think I was 12 turning like 13 at the time Park did I wish I started Michael grow You Michael you've been growing up on on camera your whole life, man It's it's intense. Have you had any wild interactions as like people or people like think you're a Lorenzo or like anything of a long I was telling patina and I was telling you know you guys earlier that It can get a little weird and I think you know how to I'll tell you this The reaction of how we react to it will will have a lot to predict a lot of how that interaction could be it can definitely get Weirder If you kind of jump out of your fucking shoes and get all weird or Little humility like dude two a.m. Three a.m. In the morning walking in East Harlem going on my brother's spot, you know Spot and having someone jump out of like some hookah bar and run after me and be like, yo Lorenzo come here come hang out like It's like no, no, no, bro. I appreciate it. Yeah, what's your name? You know, I mean you got to try to diffuse it You know you try to like but legitimately not to like fake some shit It's legitimate like no man listen. I'm not in Lorenzo mode right now. I'm I've been hanging out with family And I got it my daughter's like I gotta go, you know, I don't I don't do that anymore like I don't I don't hang out But no, it's always great. It's it's always gratifying. You know, I'm always having you know, it's part of what we do You know, we're always gonna have to be we always have to be graceful about that. I feel I mean, I think for some people It does get weird, you know, I bet you But I try to keep it long like I said I focus on my reaction because sometimes I know you guys both know about that stuff. It's it's you know, you got to know your crowd You got to know your audience and you just gotta you know, you got to keep it level headed all the time But yeah, there's there's a weird moment that dude that dude will live for a while I think Lorenzo will live for sure. Yeah, do you do you still talk to Woody and Toyolotter? I text him from time to time I love that. Yes, I have them in a chat. I love the children are all together I have the same thing with the Western family Yeah, I have them all together in the chat and it is always Joe. I mean, I'm so proud so happy for them You know, Lavelle is happily married. Woody is now a father. Latoya is also married like we stay in touch and That ball your kids growing up and you know, it's crazy because they they saw me kind of like in the in the midst of like I guess ten or twelve right not the teenagers that I have now Now it's fucking tarot show, but why oh my goodness ten and towards another show that's another show But but yeah, it's it's it's always good. I love those. I love I love my TV kids They'll always be my TV kids and you know what? I'm just proud proud of them. So yeah, I'm in a group chat with the with all the Weston's Yeah, and it's it's like once every couple months and they're just like what strip club and what country are you in now? That's like the check in I'm like I'm in a beast And they're like I have fun. That's like basically all we do. I want to do that too sometimes Michael Michael's really plays a little bit cool like you you're scary like and we hung we hung in Prague that one time that that we want to show that story Let's let's tell that one. Let's tell that one. Yeah, I was it. I was moving around I was always take that euro trip for a month. What was this? Oh, you were filming a movie. I was more in Serbia I was in Serbia shooting. Yeah, I was shooting in Serbia. I so I don't know when this was on the timeline of ghost. I think it was You had just gotten killed. - Yeah, you had finished the season. - Season? - You were kind of hanging, you were doing your thing, taking your well-earned vacation, and you were traveling in Europe, hanging with 50% a couple of other concerts in there. You guys had both. He was on that tour. - Yeah, you guys had a final lap. - Final lap, right, final lap. And I was in Serbia, we somehow connected. I think I might have also texted everyone. I said, "What's going on?" You were the one who was like, "Yo, "you know that he's going to Prague." So, "What's up?" I'm like, "Jani, say the word." And you were like, "All right, it's on." So, it was on. The easiest way, like it's crazy. I was easy just to travel in Europe by plane. - It's a mess. - I think I spoke to you on a Tuesday, and I was there Thursday. - Yeah. - Some crazy shit. - Like an hour flight, right? - It was like an hour flight, and I landed, and I actually took three days, and the concert was a Saturday. I think I landed the night prior, stayed with you. - Yep, I had to do that. - So, the whole crazy phrase is sick Airbnb, and it was pretty cheap. But it was like, I had like four bedrooms. It was like, overlooking the, it had like a sauna, had everything in it. So, I had all these bedrooms. So, I hit up Birdo, I was like, just come stay with me, like I have a sick Airbnb. He pulls up, and we go to the 50 concert, dude, we had the best time. - Fucking awesome, dude. - Dude, he brought us out on stage. Dude, it was unbelievable. - Yeah, no, we got to see the concert, went on stage, we were rocking, had to, that was like the second third time that I had kind of chatted with him for like an extended period of time. So, I was so grateful to him. I mean, we sort of broke bread at that time, 'cause we kind of, we kind of, - That's why I always go there. - Yeah. - Because you go there, and he's only seen Yale and Murder for like three months. He's like, get these guys away. - Dude. - So, he sees us, he's like, "Oh, my boys!" - Dude, and I, the crazy thing to me, you might be a little bit more used to it, but we were chopping it up for like an hour or so. - Yeah. - As he's getting wired, and then he just goes out. - Yeah. - And he just like, I mean, all of it is down. - Yeah. - But I just found that to be so, like, we're in the middle of like, chopping in a middle conversation. I'm about to go fucking saying in front of 75,000. (laughing) Like right now, I'm just going out. - I mean, dude, he's been famous since he's like 18 years old. - And this is-- - And not just like, little fame. He's been like, 50 cents. - The biggest, like, the biggest in the business. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So, we leave, we left that, the concert. - The concert. - We went out, we got a table. $200. - Yeah. - So we go to this club. I had to grow with me. - Of course. - Dude. - Of course. - He's great. - His album was with us, too. - Alvin was with us, yeah. - Joe's course brother. Alvin was with us. - That's what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. We had a great time. He was there. And let me tell you, Prague, I had a day and a half to kind of hang out. Walk along the wall, the castle. You had to, yeah, the jet, or you had some going the next day. - I had to go to Amsterdam. But yeah, I got to hang a little bit. But that was incredible. Fucking cab ride. - Yeah, that's what I wanted to get to. So, I don't know what you remember from this. But do we drink? - I think I was sober. - I think. Yeah, you-- - No, I drank that night. - And you were semi-aggressive. You were semi. You were semi. Like, you were good. You were solid. Like, you weren't going to let nobody. And I say that. - Oh, I was going to kill the cab side. - You were going to kill him. But I only say that because you have more fucking balls than me. Because I, the guy, I handed, I know what I handed. So tell the story. I handed the guy as what I thought was the-- - You gave him a 50? - I gave him the bill to pay for it. And then I sit back like everything is ready. And I guess we were still in conversation. And then he gave me the price again. And I was ready to pay him again. And I guess we were definitely fucking drunk. Or we were like smoked. - Yeah, definitely. - But then he, like, he-- The price was like, I think it was like $12. And he only gave him back like a five. And I was like, like, where's the change? And he was like, no, that is the change. You said it. He gave you a 50. He gave me a 20. - He wanted me to pay him again. - Wow. - Like, I was-- - I ain't fucking-- - He fucking-- - I was like, give me the money now. - No, he got after it. - They scam Americans. - Yeah. - All the time. - Someone had told me that. So I was like, already-- I was like, give me the money now. And I was like, I'm not leaving. I start yelling in the street. And they don't want the police or anything like that. So he, like, once I started yelling and making a scene out of it, he was like, oh, shit. And then he gave us the money. - You got in a space now. It kind of gave me a little courage to let him go. I was like, bro, I'm like, what are you doing here? What is this? - I mean, we gave you a great tip, too. - No, like, I mean, we were-- - Nah, 'cause-- - Yeah, it gave you shit. - The shit that got me is that he tried to get me to give him another bill. And he was-- - Yeah. - We were already asking-- - And you already paid-- 'cause that was his argument. His argument was like, oh, you haven't paid me. And you were like, bro, what are you talking about? - Yeah. - He just-- - And I had my wallet out. - Yeah, like, it was already open anyway. It was an interesting-- - Yeah. - It's crazy to think that. You know, pretty buff guys, I mean, we don't-- I don't think we look like-- - It's the American-- - It's the American thing. - They think all Americans are dumb. - Oh my god. - I don't want-- - We don't really have a good standing, you know, right now in the world. So I get the reason. You want to talk about someone crazy. You know, that Serbia has some of the buildings that we bombed in '99. Still standing. Still in the-- - America bombed Serbia in '99. - Oh, yeah, bro. We bombed-- - I did not know that. - God of those people. That was either prior. So I got to-- I got to get my history where I want to misspeak about one-- but it was pre-- or I think it was definitely bush-- might have been bush-- senior. - Wow. - But we hit Belgrade. - Damn hard. - I was filming there. - Oh, that was awesome. - Yeah. - It was-- Listen, the levels are not like the ones like going to Texas or like going to like-- I'll tell you what, I shot in Puerto Rico and Puerto Rico. It's like an American crew in Puerto Rico. - Oh, cool. - Serbia. They got some catching up. They got some catching up to do. - Yeah. - And then the language is-- - Yeah, tough. - Don't expect someone to call action because they're calling their own-- - What is it? - I forget what it was now. But it was like ready or something. Not even rolling. It was like some other word that they use. - I shot in Mexico City that cut with cortic. - Cortic. - Cortic, cortic. But that's closer to something similar. But yeah, that was a lot different. I think it was more because of the language barrier. And culturally, too. Like, serbians are rough people, man. I'll give you this. I was out there, and they told me about the four seasons in Serbia. You have winter and summer, spring and fall, and war. - That's what they said. - Hell, and that was from a local conversation and a stay with me forever. Five seasons in Belgrade or in Serbia. - And they're not a part of the war now, are they? - Listen, I don't think so. I don't think they're involved in any direct conflict. But, you know, we have conflicts. The country has had conflicts, or they've invaded, or they've done something. Take a look at the list of all the countries that we've been involved in, some type of action. I mean, do they left the buildings up? - That's crazy. - As a reminder. - Yeah. - You know? And I'm talking about people build stuff around it, but the buildings stayed up with the destruction around. - Those are ruins. - The ruins of a time to not forget. - Yeah. - I love Eastern Europe. I love going to Poland. But you shot in Bulgaria, right? - I saw in Bulgaria. - That's Eastern Europe. - Yeah, yeah. - I loved it. - All of those countries are all connected. - Yeah, that's amazing. And I've been, look, I worked with Ketowan, as you guys know, for a little while, even when I was at power. I was at New Jersey branch manager, sort of speak, which is like a brand ambassador for the whole state. And I got to go to Amsterdam. From Amsterdam, I went with my wife, or one of the summits. Ketowan usually has a summit every year. And we travel to Paris and stuff. And I just think that Europe is a whole. - It's a huge beauty. - It's a completely different experience, man. - Yeah. - It's like the people, the culture, the way, the openness, the way you get around. There's a level of care and kind of like a welcoming aspect. We live a very fast-paced life here in the States. And we're also kind of like super on top of one another, but we're losing touch, you know what I mean? - The phones. - It's the culture. Look, the other day, I was shocked to realize this, but we're celebrating 250 years. That's like an infant. And we are basically the infant of the planet. - Of the world, yeah. - We're like, there are countries that are. - Yeah, there are countries each at this like six or six thousand. - Right now. - You know, we're 250. So it's good perspective to have young guns. - All right, before we do rapid-fire. - Yeah, let's do that. - We kind of like it. - Yeah, we can know the world real quick, though. - Let's talk about the world cup. - All right, all right, let's talk about that. - I don't know when this episode will come out. You just had Yellowstone air the finale. - The finale. - It might be Tuesday. We got to figure out what would be the best way. - So whatever you guys want. - So we don't know when this will come out who will be knocked out or what. So outside, I just want to pre-empt it. - Uh huh. - 'Cause they might be getting old info. - Right, they might. - But it's been crazy. Me and Birdo were able to go watch the friendly between Morocco and Norway. - And they're still in there, right? - Yeah, both teams are in there. - Both teams are in there. - As of, what day is it today? - Wednesday, July 8th. - July 8th, they're still in there. We just got to watch a crazy game yesterday with Argentina and Egypt. The Norwegian Norway versus, who did they do? - Brazil. - Brazil. - How was that game, too? - That's correct, yeah. - Puerto Rico is America. - They had a team, I think, at some point in the early part. But Puerto Rico is part of the USA. - It's USA. - But do the Puerto Ricans play for USA? - I don't know if there are any Puerto Ricans playing on this. I would have to research that. I think maybe. And I also do rumblings that I'm trying to remember now. I don't know if we actually, I know that in the last 10 years, soccer has grown quite a bit in Puerto Rico. - Puerto Rico. And I think Carmelo Anthony at some point was sponsoring some kind of deal But I think they might have had a team or they like I guess the qualifiers For the World Cup maybe Puerto Rico did have a team. I have to research that but yeah as of today What do we got eight teams up there's 18 right now eight teams no ray England this weekend. I love the World Cup I don't want to tell me neither It's so excited. It's such a lit time like see the start is been it's been five. I fucking hate though I won't I won't take it in that direction, but I hate the way that we you know the craziness with the politics in this country like We have to fucking inject politics into everything Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like let's be sports. Let's let's see the shit alone Crying out loud, man. It's like not every foul and but but ironically enough there have been there've been incidents You know like them and Bob is incident with this with that craze what is that woman? Yeah, she's bugged out. Yeah, she's bugged out I mean let's just have a little focus on sports Yeah, 100% I agree, you know, and like the irony of all of this is like look at who all the players. What do they look like? Yeah, mm-hmm right Everything and it doesn't matter what country, right? They're all brown. They're all black right with some exceptions Norway, you know, and some others But even them. Yeah, they got brothers on there too. Yeah, right. Yeah, let's leave sports alone Yeah, I mean Jesus before we get in the rapid fire I want you to talk about the charity that you wanted to talk about. Yes, please. I want to bring up the Christian River Foundation Anyone who grew up in New York City knows who John Gongy River is John Gongy River. I was a DJ I have been in high school. I remember going to a couple of three sixteenths and John at the time was starting out his career but John eventually became a music mobile music producer and Fast forward to 20 25 years later John and I reunite or re reconnect Because I had sort of been like I said I actually went to some of those parties and when he was producing at like limelight or when he was producing at these clubs in the city and he produced for Mark Antony and Madonna and all these people We reconnect years later He's part of this foundation and the reason he started this foundation is because he lost the son Christian to Cancer the IPG cancer, which is a cancer that affects the brain It's a tumor that affects these kids between the ages of three and five. Jesus. So we reconnect You know board members include Luis Guzman Keenan right, there's all these celebrities. There's all these people that are look We just want to continue to highlight the mission that John started because for me the courage that I must take for a man to kind of dedicate his life Because this is 17 years ago to dedicate his life to finding a cure Then that's what this foundation is about. It's like we are Non-for-profit strictly for the research and development of a cure for this particular disease that affected that killed his son Yeah, and it's a huge part of my life I met him at a gallon like two three years ago. I want you guys if you ever have the time to please I have a we we we got to coordinate that we love to be but but it really isn't an important And I got to tell you we're really close to actually, you know Science is funny, you know, like I'll put it like this if there was if there was an Elon A third of Elon Musk kind of person who would have found John a year ago. Yeah, and have been able to Fund the research. Yeah, we'd have a cure Yeah, if the United States had but it is a small cancer So they're going to focus on leukemia and the bigger ones But if we had the resources that we've had for other types of diseases in this country Dedicated to this one because this one's doable, right and since the inception of this foundation The reason we are very close to finding a cure is strictly and only because of the foundation and John supports families It's not just from you know, he's I've my personally handed out a couple of checks myself from the money that we raised to families that are Prior to the foundation. No one could live with this disease and now we have at least five Ten twelve different people that are like what we consider our warriors. Yeah, they are people living with the disease and The foundation is there for them and for new families that keep popping up. I'll put all the information we can buy all that support Yeah, Christian Rivera no age. It's just CR Christian Rivera foundation. Now. I'm gonna feel like such a dick Okay, rapid fire. What's your favorite food? No, no, no, no, no, no. I tell you man. It's crazy. That's one of the questions favorite food. I you know Chuletas pork chops with some rice and beans. Yeah, it's favorite cheat meal. That was that's what it was cheap Yeah, and if I was ever in that throw that will be my last. I love that last movie pork chops rice and meat pork chops fried Bro, but I mean like that you've seen them can can pork chops. I have now they look like you look a little like the Tomahawk For a pork chop and they split them and you still have the fat lined up and they cut it like ridges and the little rice and I do listen now maybe maybe some tostonis and plantains as well. I was just and I'll happily go to the chair. I'll happily go to the chair right out there Yeah, yeah, I forget it and I'm out there. You got to have a mouth out too. Oh you ever have mouth out? You never had a mouthful before dude It's fire. We're Caribbean. We have we have this we have this knowledge from being Caribbean But mouth that is basically it's a sugar cane soda Imagine setting your makeup then forgetting it's even theirs meet new grippy setting mist from Maybelline, New York Gel to miss technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours with flexible all-day comfy grip No tightness, no stickiness, no residue just plum do we hydrated skin that still feels like your skin try new grippy setting mist from Maybelline New York Maybe it's Maybelline I have had like a molasses. I go to a Colombian spot. Yes Like it's like a molasses like a molasses fly. Yeah, kind of like coke, but not coke. Yeah, now not not cola I should say we'll go with the food one another rule. What's your most controversial food? Take my food take Yeah, I'll give you a second. Go ahead. I reposted something up from subway takes. I don't think steaks as good as it is Steak yeah, I knew this was gonna piss him off. You're you're told am I say you're told you're maybe I go I reposted it last night. I'll show you on my Instagram I I think it's a little overrated stick is the best the worst steak no, just steak food. I think it's overrated Stake food as a whole. Yeah, just take as a whole. I just think it just tastes like meat. There's no like sauce or like But have you gone to a steakhouse in Dallas? Yeah, we actually did remember when my brother got in the car and we got kicked out My favorite steak I've ever had was in Amsterdam at this spot. You got to go to like I was just talking to Joey about this You got to go to a Brazilian steakhouse. Yeah, like actually in Brazil. I just think there are so many It's just overrated. I like stuff with a lot of sauce and seasoning flavor And I think yeah, I'm completely different. Like I just like my steak. Simple. So I know that's great Garlic rosemary time whatever whatever it would is put some butter on there Oh, people think steak is overrated or not Michael if anyone thinks steak is overrated they're tweaked out. Yeah, they're tweaked out They're tweaked out. I mean, I I think part of like like part of the celebration part of our like Americana is a Sinus success is going out to a fucking big ass steak house and sitting down and join a Garlic bread and steak Like big ass steak and a big ass lobster. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god. We forgot the lobster tails We're got like a nice lobster tail on the side. Come on. What's your what's your controversial food? Controversial for me. I honestly the Chinese food has gotten to me lately and it's because I ate a whole lot of it Yeah, so I've gotten a little bit snobbish about it and I and and you know and listen I lived on chicken wings and fried rice in high school like that was that was daily. Yeah, yeah And I went to school here for I went to Fordham, so I was in campus and Rosehill in the Bronx and we would go out and we would get still I was eating that was like my chicken wings, but you're over now. Yeah, I think it's out of my system now and I'm gonna lie I'm kind of like that with the seven grade. Oh, man, chicken wings with the french fries with the red barbecue. Oh my god Yeah, the those crab rangoon. Oh my god It's so funny. All these rabbit vines we fasting right now. Yeah, it's crazy. We did touch on Last time you were truly star-struck Yeah, I mean look and I don't know if we brought this up the last time, but I Did a show called kings Years ago when I was basically talk about extra moved up. I basically I think I was grant willfully Casted me in this and being I was on set for a few days and then they moved me up and I met my good friend Hisham Taufik who was Agent Membae of Membae and and in the I'll get the name later, but anyway, Ian machine. Oh Okay, yeah, let me tell you quick Ian McChain story, right? Like I'm starting out in the business I don't know shit. I don't know anything. I basically was just a glorified extra and I got to I was basically part of a security Tell in this show kings, okay? I Weighted for eight whatever was episodes, and I just wanted this man to give me a little bit of advice Mm-hmm, and I had gone closer because I'm working with him almost daily, but again No, no speaking lines literally over mixture And I don't know why I thought this would be a brilliant idea, but I made a real highlight reel of my acting work thus far Mm-hmm, and it had a resume and at the end of the last day of shooting Came a big hug on sat he already knew me my name. I went up to his room and I knocked on the door And I asked if I can just take a minute of his time, and I literally asked him I said Ian I'm sorry to bother you, but you know, I'm so and so and I'm trying to "What would you advise me to do?" And he very gracefully took my CD. I gave him a CD with my highlight tape. And just simply told me, "Son, there is no pattern for this." It's a hundred percent right. And I think it could, I almost, like I don't tell the story often because I think people might misunderstand, like that's a pretty heartbreaking thing to say, like essentially no. I got no advice for you. But that's the advice you can give me, right? That's the advice. Like there is nothing in this business that I'm gonna sit here and tell you because it was my experience and probably not being able to emulate or repeat what I just did or what I'm doing or how it's worked for me. And I don't, I remember my heart being full. I wasn't super excited, you know, excited because I mean, essentially it was not a fail. I guess it was kind of like, man, listen, it was an audition. It was a self-tape. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got the self-tape. I got to do a self-tape, right? I got to chat with him. I got to do the self-tape and the rest is history. That's so bad. What was the last song you were started? Last song was "Star Struck." Where was I? I do, I don't know, like I've seen everyone now, but like I think the first time I saw Leo but was like pre-power all that stuff. I saw him walking, like I see him three times a week now. I don't know how you see him all the time. Oh my god, Leo, go home, round the corner. Shout out Leo, I need to do a movie with him. It would probably be like, I don't know. What about you? Well, I got invited to the next celebration. Oh yeah, I was geek, I was geeking about, I was in there and I literally felt like I was like 13. I was like, yo, I'm fanned out right now. I can't believe I'm around the next let alone, they just won the championship. I'm like, yo, this is like, this is a dream. You're not around the next, you walk the parade with those guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And a week before that, we had watched that Morocco Norway game, so I had just seen you. And then I went, by the way, I went to the parade. Couldn't access anything. Yo, dude, you had a lot anywhere. We landed late in the city. I have a friend, a couple of friends who landed like at 5 a.m. And they were standing there until 10. There were people there at like 2 a.m. Even like 8 p.m. the night before just camping out for their spa. I'm the whole. So I got to, it was part of the melee. I was part of the, at least I was there. But I turned out to be and you saw Mr. Ranio over here. It was crazy. But I know your fans. Shout out, man. Shout out to the, and you guys are fans. And I know you, you, you're a diehard. And you know what? That was a big, I didn't care if I got to see anyone. I just knew that I had to be in the city because why was it? Seven, the year, the year I was born. It was the last time those guys were champions. That's crazy. That's crazy. So I didn't say why I was in that to long time. That's exactly what you meant. Yeah. We saw them win the championship. Yeah. What's in the game? And mind you, like, I met some of the players before everything. That was the way game, right? Yeah, we went to San Antonio. We went to San Antonio. I saw him. I saw what the shot up front. Yeah, yeah, yeah, shout out, shout out. But I saw him give you that, that you guys, that's it, that's it, that's it. Yeah, man. Yeah, I don't know the last time I was star truck, man, but I have to think of it. You know what I'm saying? Those guys, those guys, those athletes, to me, they, they are, I'm in awe of all of them. Yeah, and it just came out that Jalen Brunson, his left wrist, was injured the whole playoff. And they certainly tried to, they certainly tried to beat his ass, they tried to get, they tried to get my guy off. I did it. They were physical with him. They were, I know my group now one game, I said, Oh, my God, no. I know. And he came back, he came back. I was like, Oh, my God. I love the story because, you know, that story of him leaving the maps and going for the deal. It was like less money, but I want to be the, I mean, let me, let me take the reins. That's a ball. He moved, man. That's a real organization like New York. Bro, you got it. That's a heavy, heavy responsibility. I think I'm going to go out on a limb here. And I think that's part of the reason why, you know, we have these ideas. Athletes, professional athletes in the city have to be a certain breed. Oh, yeah. You got to, you got to have a different type of poise, a different type of confidence, a different type of. A different kind. You got to have thick skin. Thick skin, man. You could have 51 game. The next game you only drop 12 points. Then you're the worst player ever. Like they, it's, it's tough being the athlete. You're going to be crucified here, man. Yeah. And you can be the biggest hero. And this happens everywhere, but there's something about the way it happens in New York. There's just a lot of controversy. It's heavy. So like, see some of those videos of those fucking fans. Not yet. There would be, there would be, there's just aggression. So the magnitude of everything that's done as athlete in New York is, is, is crazy. Whether it's good or bad, like, yeah, and you got to deal with that shit. You got to deal with the abuse. And you know, the, the jets and the giants, they're a little bit away. But being a Yankee or a net or a Brooklyn net now. Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. Or the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the Rangers be a, like, a New York. They were horrible this year. They were bad. They were bad. Awful. Got to see a couple of games. Awful. Yeah. They got shut out to Julie. Oh, yeah. Got to see, got to see a couple of games. Yeah. Yeah. I just had the whole team be everyone. Yeah. Yeah. Except their goal is one of the best goalies in the league. But you can't win with just the goalie. You got to score. Speaking of goalies, my goodness. Oh, this one for the US. Yeah, the other day. Oh, I know. US is gone. Oh, you know, we don't know who's going to, we don't know who's going to win. When this comes out, we don't know who's still in. But burdo, what dude, we should do this again. We should do this. Like, we got to have another, like, we should just keep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I love bringing people back because it's just like a catch up. It's fun. Listen, man, I, I, you guys are, I mean, it's from the bottom of my heart. We, we, I started something. It's a privilege. You know, you guys, I'm 53 years old, right? I'm, I'm you guys legitimately like hanging out with me. And for me, I'm doing the guy, you know, we have mad fun at the norwegian guy. Yeah, we was, I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. And now, you know, let me be the, the, I love to be, continue to repeat and continue to be back on the show. And thanks for having me. Love having you, burdo. Make sure you check out his foundation, his charity is doing the fucking Lord's work while me and Michael are at strip clubs. What's the name of the game? Christian Rivera foundation with no H. C. R. I. S. T. I. I. I. A. and Christian Rivera foundation. Sorry, no H. I just the important thing is this Christian is written out with our no H in Spanish. Because that was John's John's son's name. Thank you, Bernie. Thank you for coming. Okay. If this is come out and the time we think it is, merch is dropped. Michael's wearing it. Oh, it's unbelievable. We'll get you on. I know. I still have, I still have my black one. You're going to war to the 50 show in pro, bro. My guy. That's been, that's been the picture that, that's been the one that continues to hit. Hell yes. Yeah, that's the gift. I keep saying these ones are real. It's my favorite one I've ever. Yeah, it's about the new ones. The new event was a real nation. Yeah, like, well, we're not more stuff coming soon, but we love you guys. Thank you for tuning in. As always, Michael. Give us one crew has in you. Have it. Burticle. The crew has in you. Have it at Michael Rainey Jr. at L. B. L. B. L. B. L. Burtle Cologne. Again, another one of those Spanish, but you know, spilling it out. Like E. L. Burtle Cologne B. L. R. T. O. C. O. Railway. Yes. Johnny B. P. O. You heard it here first. Yeah, as a Burtle Cologne. Thank you. That's one of the Airport by Breakfast by Michael. [thunder]

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The speaker shares a personal journey of self-taping for acting roles, emphasizing that consistency, comfort, and collaboration with others were key to improvement.
  2. They highlight the impact of major industry events like strikes, which created gaps in work but also led to significant career momentum, especially with roles in *Night Agent* and *Yellowstone*.
  3. The speaker reflects on the deep influence of veteran actors like Colin Farrell and Taylor Sheridan, citing mentorship, cultural authenticity, and technical mastery as transformative in their development.

Summary:

The speaker recounts his evolving career in acting, beginning with early struggles and learning through self-taping. He emphasizes that consistency, comfort, and collaboration—especially with experienced professionals—were crucial in improving his craft. Key turning points include the impact of industry strikes, which disrupted work but ultimately led to breakthrough roles such as in *Night Agent* and *Yellowstone*.

He deeply respects veteran performers like Colin Farrell, whose mastery of language and physical presence served as a masterclass, and Taylor Sheridan, whose real-world background in ranch culture informed the authenticity of *Yellowstone*. The speaker notes how these experiences built not just skills, but confidence and resilience. He also shares personal anecdotes about on-set dynamics, cultural challenges in international filming (like in Serbia and Poland), and the emotional connection he forms with fellow actors, such as Woody and Latoya.

Throughout, he underscores the importance of authenticity, preparation, and staying grounded in one’s truth. He reflects on how acting is both a technical and emotional journey, shaped by real-life experiences, resilience, and community. The narrative concludes with admiration for the craft, the people behind it, and the global connections that define modern storytelling.

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Self-taping helps actors rehearse and refine their performances before auditions, building confidence and consistency. It simulates real set conditions and allows actors to work with professionals, improving their ability to deliver strong, prepared performances.

The actor received a role directly from a self-tape without callbacks, as the casting team trusted his experience and performance. This demonstrates how a well-prepared tape can lead to immediate opportunities in the industry.

He initially struggled with self-taping, finding it stressful and even considering it a potential cause of marital strain. Over time, he learned to focus on comfort and authenticity, which improved his results.

Working with someone else during a self-tape creates a conversation-like dynamic, helping actors stay focused, maintain intent, and learn lines more naturally, which leads to better performance quality.

His role in 'Penguin' was a major milestone, offering him a masterclass in performance and professionalism. It helped him gain recognition and confidence, leading to opportunities in other high-profile shows like 'Yellowstone'.

He stayed active by reading for various roles and working on different projects, which kept him engaged and prepared. This consistent effort helped him secure a role in 'Yellowstone' after a period of transition.

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