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Benny's Mammogram + Thirst Traps

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Benny's Mammogram + Thirst Traps

The podcast blends personal storytelling, humor, and social commentary to explore themes of self-perception, vulnerability, and connection. Hosts Benito Skinner and Mary Beth Rohn reflect on a playful yet profound question—“Do you see me as a clown or a sexual being?”—to examine how people view themselves and each other. This leads into a rich narrative about moments of emotional awakening, such as a trip to an acne store in London and a childhood experience of getting a mammogram at age 12. The mammogram story becomes a symbol of early personal growth, maternal love, and the importance of preventative care. The hosts also discuss the cultural dismissal of things like pop music, fashion, and sexual expression, calling for greater acceptance and celebration of individuality. They celebrate the art of "thirst traps" as a form of playful, vulnerable self-expression, emphasizing that authenticity and risk-taking are valuable, even when uncertain. The episode concludes with a broader reflection on societal norms, political impacts on health, and the importance of personal boundaries. Through humor, honesty, and heartfelt anecdotes, the podcast encourages listeners to embrace their true selves, take risks, and find joy in everyday moments of connection and authenticity.

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The following podcast is a "Dear Media Production" "Hey, can you come pick me up?" "Yeah, what's wrong?" "Nothing?" "Pretty sure." "Yeah, no, I just need a ride." "I'm gonna have fun, start your adventure." I'm Benito Skinner. "I'm Mary Beth Rohn." "And this is. " "Ride." "Do you see me as a clown or do you see me as a sexual being?" So that was in the notes out. "I put that in there." "You put that in there. How powerful." "I guess it's just like sometimes you have to ask if someone is speaking to you and you're thinking like, "Well, do you see me as a clown or do you see me as a sexual being?" "It's so powerful." "And I might just start asking people." "I would just ask them." "I would just ask them." "Yeah, I know and it can be really confusing as a comedian." "I get that." "You're thinking, "Am I making you laugh or am I making you laugh?" "I'm making you haunt." "Yeah, I love it hair." "And yes, we're back in the. " "I love it hair." "I love it hair." "We're back in the library, the British library." "The Great British Library." "I feel bad because I feel like my phone is putting a barrier between me and listeners." "When I have it out, it feels like I'm texting but. " "And they keep saying that." "But I'm not." "I'm really not. I'm actually just keeping us on track, keeping us on us." "I'm cold, so you must be." "I'm freezing." "We're losing you." "Yeah, no, my pulse. " "I thought that wasn't Christmas." "I'm not, yeah." "This is very narnian here, I will say." "I wanted to call out a moment earlier today, which was when we were at the acne store in London and running up that hill was playing and I just thought, could life get any better than this?" "No, maybe a little." "Then I asked the guy who works at acne. Do you see me as a clown or do you see me as a sexual being?" "And he went as sexual." "He said as sexual." "As sexual." "Well, immediately when we got there, he was like, so this used to be an art gallery. It's three floors. Like, can I show you the store?" "Yeah." "And now I can think was, do you want the house tour?" "I could take you to the first, second, third floor." "He so wanted to show us some kind of unbelievable." "And there was a big pink couch in there." "Well, you said to me, you go, do you want the house tour?" "Yes, it's a acne store and I was like, my girl has been. " "And then I said my house is on pretty girl avenue." "I love that whole song, can I just say?" "Yeah, it's very beautiful." "I would have loved to do a Deliverance Richards video to that." "I'm just too tired." "I'm just too tired." "I'm just too tired." "I'm just too tired." "I can't stress enough." "When you're in the Deliverance Richards costume, do you see me as a clown or do you see me as a sexual being?" "I will say that really permeated my use." "The question?" "The question because I would just be like, will you want to be around me all the time?" "Right." "But then I'm like, oh no, you just want my like, charisma. You don't even care." "Krismy, uniqueness, nerve, and talent." "No, you don't want to get in this bed." "No, well, but I, I feel like they probably did." "Are you gonna stay the night?" "Doesn't mean we're bound for life." "Are you gonna stay the night?" "So that's in my definitely list of top songs ever made." "Best songs ever made." "A great, it's a top." "Yeah, I've been trying to find like the ultimate five, and it's nearly impossible." "It's aren't changes." "But no matter what, you're gonna find Marin Morris." "Oh, and Dion by the Japanese house." "Baby, why don't you just meet me in the middle?" "Dion with fucking, oh, is that with Bonny Bear?" "Bonny Bear, yeah." "Oh god, that's like, what a fabulous song." "Everything Japanese house makes." "At some point I should just write for her." "I know, that's a new carpool though." "It's gonna be a carpool, and it's maybe we just send it to them." "I think people would love to listen." "Private episode." "Yeah, we should start doing those." "I'm seeing her live soon, and I can't fucking wait." "You're a singer way." "My bestie." "With me, love." "The Lord Ultra Sounds." "Oh my god, I don't know if I can take some of those songs live." "I'm gonna sob." "If you see me crying at the Lord show, no you did it." "No, you did it." "No, you did it." "No, you did it." "No, you did it." "There is this mashup that exists of Lord liability in the end for party for you." "And again, it's just one of those." "Dangerous legislation." "The most dangerous of legend." "Can I talk about dangerous legislation?" "There's a few songs lately where I go dangerous." "So, nobody's son." "This is what happened. I was listening to Never Really Over by Katy Perry, and I thought to myself, and I text to you almost everything I think." "Of course, and I'm happy." "Hey, and I love it." "I said Never Really Over is a dangerous piece of legislation." So, now I think we should, we should deem songs, whether or not they are dangerous legislation. "It seems like we're kind of living in a society." "Deon is a dangerous piece of legislation." "Tuing cotton wool." "I'm gonna be honest, some of the overcompensating soundtrack, a dangerous piece of legislation." "So, yes, liability in party for you, I saw that, and I immediately thought, well. " "It's really one of those things." "In the wrong hands?" "Well, it's, oh my god, it's that tick-tock that I brought up, wakes up out where that girl was like, "I'm so lucky to feel music like this. I'm starting to think I feel it too much. I'm overwhelmed. I'm like, am I going to feel some emotions that I just eventually, like, I'm numb?" "You implode?" "Yeah." "You won't go numb, for sure." "But when I used to come here when I was in love with a British man, I used to come here for like a month or two, and then when I would go back to America, I couldn't listen to music. I couldn't, it would make me too sad." "This is me talking to people about you at a brunch or not at." "Yeah." "I mean, she like, she won't even listen to music." "I couldn't even listen to music." "The girl couldn't even listen to music." "The car it was silent." "No, it was silent. I couldn't. I would cry. I would start crying." "Because I missed him so much." "I will say when we were shooting for season, I found some of those old playlist and some of those feelings and stuff, and just like, oh my god, and how much." "I know it's a lot." "And that was, oh, I would listen to them before some of the scenes, and even putting them in later, I was just like, oh my god." "It's emotional." "I love music. Ugg." "I knew you were going to say that." "No, oh my god. Somebody else, 1975, a dangerous piece of legislation." "I mean, for you, it was dangerous. I will say official. It's probably one of her most dangerous." "I'm not the most dangerous. Don't talk about that now." "I don't remember our first day. No, I'm talking. I didn't know. I'm okay." "But the way that you smay." "These are the things that can make us official." "Oh my, I can't even think about it. I literally will, like, I will get there. I will well." "I added to my lore recently, and can I just say the memoir keeps getting longer, and you know exactly what I'm talking about." "Exactly about the book." "Speaking of dangerous legislation." "Moranda has trusted you with the book." "The book." "That's me." "The book. I had to put it on the table with the flowers." "I don't know if I'll ever write a book." "I'm for sure going to write a book. I'm just figuring out if the first one will be a novel, if it'll be more true to myself, if it will be a novel." "If it'll be a graphic novel, a thinly veiled memoir that is like a novel, so it's the novelization of my life." "I'm just yond, it's cozy and we're recording at five, which is the middle of the night." "We never do this. This is like time. This is right after dark." "This is so right after dark. Well, we're going to go outside. It's going to be gray." "Gray." "I want to tell you about when I bid into a full peppercorn. I just salad." "This has been in the dock for a while." "I know, and I just, I saw it, and actually it's one of those ones that's in there, and I thought, did I do that?" "No, it was me." "It's you." "Also, what are you writing for?" "You're going to do that right now." "Do you want me to say it right now?" "Yes, say it." "I'm writing for when my mom made me get a mammogram." "Well, it's just Benny's mammogram." "Benny's mammogram." "Is what we're calling it?" "Yeah." "The Benny's mammogram episode." "I just think, yeah, I have a lot to say." "I don't have one. Isn't that crazy?" "You don't have to do that." "No, I do, though. I do." "I guess himbo's, maybe." "I've been writing for too much straight guy stuff lately." "I agree." "People all this, they'll see other issues." "No, we're not. We're not keeping this." "Yeah." "Maybe, I'm not sure." "Well, you won't let me ride for couples therapy on showtime." "Ride for couples therapy." "It's a lot." "Right." "It's a lot to watch." "Actually, no. I'm going to ride for thirst troughs." "Uncredible." "So." "What a perfect thing." "Okay, when I had an email job, this was back in the 2010s." "Obviously, you had chopped, you had sweet green, and you had just salad." "And so, I'm choosing sweet green every time." "Fuck Mary Kill, marrying sweet green, I'll have sex with chopped, and unfortunately, in that time, and things maybe have gone better, I would kill just salad." "Do you have to pay her for that?" "It's like, of course, clip that, but it's just like, how could you even -- again, I'll say it." "It's like, she doesn't on purpose." "I want the director to pause it." "Girl, it has to hear banking out before they post that." "So, sometimes the line would be so long because everyone's getting lunch at the same time that your forced like, go to a salad place, he wouldn't order my lunch." "I was so there, it was crazy. I would go like -- this isn't so home, Mind You." "Sorry, I hate to say this, and like, I don't want to like ruin anyone's like livelihood, but like, dig or whatever. It's gonna be a no for me." "So, I like dig. You don't like fresh ingredient." "Oh, I almost forgot. I hate women, and I hate fresh ingredients." "No, I'm glazed. I'm a glazed teriocular." "I like glazed too, but I love dig. Dig has a lot of really good options for a girl like me." "Okay." "So, maybe you don't care about that." "I don't know. I just remember, I will say, you know, what would have been like seven years, eight years ago, it wasn't what I wanted, but maybe it's changed." "Maybe it's changed." "Originally, it was dig-ins." "I know, they changed. Drop the in. It's cleaner." "Is it? Drop the in. It's disgusting." "It did. Yeah." "So, I went to -- Oh god, I just thought of something." "I'm just -- what is this?" "So, sorry, I can't believe somebody just told me this, and I can't believe I haven't said it to you yet." "It was funny because Alissa and Amber were just talking about. They told me at -- He's letting that some guy, I don't even know who said it, but he was talking about a girl just taking up for bikini and he just said dump them. (laughs) - What is that mean? - Like just like dump them, like dump those titties out. - That's disgusting. - I, I could, I almost went my pants. I was like, that's the most, every time I think they reach it. - Porced, like I just-- - Dump them? - Jugs, dump them. - I got to tell a straight guy who's disgusting recently and that was really cool. - I'll probably cut that. - Why would we cut that? - Dump them, dump them. - Dump them? 'Cause it's like, oh, should I take my top off? It's like, yeah, dump them. - Yeah. - Come on girl. - The poor girl. - I wish we had eyes on her. - Yeah. - So I went to my third choice of salad. This was back when I was working in the puck building, by the way, this was like such a cool time for me. - It's okay, I don't take it as a reflection of my work. - No, active listening can mean just yawning. - We are all together. - Oh, I didn't even, I totally forgot about that. - We just flew in from the States. - Oh my God, I'm amazing. Outside, I think we can say it. - So I'm at my third choice for salad and I'm doing the line. I'm not as familiar with the premium add-ons. I'm not as familiar with the bases. - Great. - It's really, I'm out of my depth here. - Of course. - So they asked me, would you like salt and pepper? And that's not something they offer. Like, that they would suggest that sweet cream. - I've never seen salt and pepper. - I think you could ask for it, but it's certainly not offered every time. They were offering it to me like it was the bread. - You'd certainly hold up the line. - Certainly. - They were like, do you want it Mike's way? - So I say yes, like an idiot. - Like a total fool. - Like a fool, yeah. - So I get back, I did eat there for some reason too. I'm really, really picking a picture of you guys. - God, this story is electric, I'm not even kidding. - So I'm eating my salad and I take two bites, that third bite full peppercorn. So you feel it, you taste it, you hear it. The taste in my mouth was so overpowering. I don't think I'd ever eaten a full peppercorn before. - Sensorial. - I wouldn't recommend it. - Yeah, well, they're getting ground for a reason. - Yeah, and so this was a full one, it was untouched. And I had to stop eating completely. - Of course. - I have not eaten pepper since. - Oh, really? - Like, if my food's been peppered, it's not been by my own volition, it's been done to me. I actually have an aversion to pepper now. I may have gone home for the day. It was one of those things like having dry skin at school where I was just like, my day's not gonna recover from this. - I told my god, I told a friend recently, and I was just like, they were like, oh, you didn't come to dinner and I was just like, guy had dermatitis and she was just like, get it? - Fair. - It's just fair. - I was just like, guys, it's like, couldn't be, I'm sorry. - Yeah, I also once left a wedding because I had a cigarette, which is so not something I would do, but I don't know what type of cigarette it was. It was the one that makes your breath like really bad and I had to go home. Aren't all cigarettes that? - But it was like, you know how they're like, oh, that's menthol or that's the other thing or they're the other three. - Menthol or legal, right? - I don't know. - Maybe not, yeah. - Maybe not. - I used to love the camel crushes when I was in college. - I mean, you know, we all smoked a time or two. - Yeah, I used to say I loved them. Like if someone had them, I'd like puff twice and then pop the ball, puff twice and then be like, I think I'm good. Like I feel like we did it. - I don't smoke being more average. - And no one saw me as sexual, they saw me as a clown. - As a clown. I don't go near cigarettes anymore 'cause it's bad for like cervical cancer or something. I mean, and lung cancer, but apparently it's like, if you've ever had HPV and you smoke cigarettes that like increases your chances. - HPV was really, I learned a lot about it. There was a time when it was like, it's funny. I felt like I learned about like, don't do meth and HPV and all these things like really young or don't smoke cigarettes up until like fourth grade. And then all of a sudden these things, you know, kind of present themselves. - Yeah, they were everywhere. There was a haunted house of sorts and no more educational. - No more. - And honestly, not even mentioning it. - Should I just shit out of a first grader, but then when you're actually be presented with it, it's like-- - I wasn't getting offered SIGs in first grade. It would have, I would have said no, obviously, but-- - I guess we grew up in different places. - Yeah, I wasn't involved. - No, I wasn't either, but yeah, but then, you know, when I was in high school, people were like-- - What they don't tell you in fourth grade is that you don't want to bite into a full peppercorn. Also something I didn't learn until recently is, well, maybe a couple years ago-- - All these books, nothing. - All these books, nothing in it about that. You can't have honey until you're two or older, 'cause you don't have an enzyme that like processes it, and you can die. If a baby accidentally eats honey, they can die. I'm like, that should be on every street corner. Like, we should all know that, like, in our bones. - Wait, what? I would so be like, give that baby a little honey. - Like here, yeah. - It's crying. - Right, like-- - Give it a honeycomb. - Exactly. - Wait, that's insane. - So that's just some good practical knowledge for our listeners. And I'm gonna shout out the guy who made a TikTok saying that his biggest takeaway from "Run the Pod" was to buy T-shirts, one size down. I'm just glad that we're out here. Just like, it's called "Impact," and it's like, think locally, act globally, and by that matter, think globally and act locally. - And shop locally and-- - And shop globally. - And go globally, travel privilege. - Exactly, travel privilege. - Yeah, I've been thinking about a lot too. I just bought a polo and I had a size on, and I thought, fuck, let's see what the next size down and the woman working there. - And what, and which one did you buy? - I bought the smaller one, kid. You're always with me. Oh, wait. - Turf Hogwarts, sorry. I didn't even know the reference, so. - It's like a thing. What does everyone do right now with Harry Potter tattoo who's like, you know, who doesn't want one? You just have to get it removed or you just vibe out. You're like, it's the Deathly Hallas. It is what it is. - I guess it's like, yeah, it's like, we live and learn and all that stuff. - Yeah, I think tattoos do serve that. People have such hot takes on them. I'm like, if you want them, I think they're great, and I think they can be so beautiful. - Yeah, sometimes they're not too bad. - No, well, of course. The ones that bleed, I do feel sad for the person. I'm like, that one just feels like it didn't want to be there. - No, your skin was saying, please stop. - It's very, it's very Mariah Carey Migrate, which I was so happy. Actually, wait, this didn't happen. You went on a date and I got to show the song Migrate to our friend Jake Samus and Emily after the U.S. Open. - Yeah. - They hadn't heard this song. That's on E equals MC squared, which I still think is the best album title of all time. - Do I seem a party? - Mariah Carey. - Oh, wow. - Yeah, E equals something. - In EG1 that was similar, we're gonna cut that. - I don't think we should cut that because there might be. And I'm happy to, hey, happy to shout 'em out. Get some hits. And now a flyin' on the G5, G5, isn't that him? ♪ Emily, he's thin ♪ - Never come back again. - Us tomorrow. - Until November. - Until November. We'll be right back, London. - You showed that song to them when I wasn't there? - Mariah Carey has a song with T-Pain called Migrate. - I love T-Pain. - He's the best. Talk me to, that's why we have a podcast in you, fucker stuff. Mariah Carey, the song starts and he goes ha ha ha ha. Like she hits all those insane notes. But the song is from the cut and to the club. We Mariah Carey, from the party to the after party. Mariah Carey, it's like, it's a total hit. It's so good. - My hot take is, I didn't think glitter was that bad. - I think that all gay guys have that take. - Really? I've never ever talked to anyone about it. - It's of the showgirls world where I'm like, this is a fabulous piece of can. - Like it wasn't that bad. I just think 'cause it's like a woman, people like wanted to pile on. - I mean, we've talked about this before. - In fact, I enjoyed it. I don't even want to, no, fuck that. - It's crazy. - Screw the narrative. - Fuck it. - Fuck it. - Turn the fucking cameras off. No, I'm serious. Turn the fucking cameras off. People did that with Crossroads too and it's so funny because. - Crossroads is legitimately good. So I take it back, I take it back. - Yeah. - It's not that I didn't think it was that bad. I enjoyed the film. - Yeah. - The movie has a like 43% of Rotten Tomatoes and I'm just like, that is a fabulous, fabulous comic. - It's not like, I'm sorry. If you don't create it. - If you don't create the Wall Street Journal, like yeah, you probably didn't fuck with it. - Yeah, it's not for you. - It's not for you. It's so, how about you stop being so pretentious? I'm sure Spice World got terrible reviews which is a very poignant commentary on female celebrity. I'm sure it takes two got totally fucking tanned because it's the parent trap without the science. - It debuted at Can't It Got Boot. - No, no standing out. - 35 minute standing out. - It's everything, okay, so I was in a documentary that I don't know if it's ever gonna come out, but it's about Soul Cycle. - Oh, yeah. - And I was just thinking before I went in there, but like anything that women and gay guys really love, it just gets mocked by society. So think about it, pop music, fashion, things like Soul Cycle and movies like Glitter Crossroads, honey, like girly things. It's like society just doesn't take any of it seriously to the point where it's like even women will hate on it 'cause I guess we feel like we have to like, you know, receive whatever. - Yeah, but do you see how I actually pivoted in the moment? - Yeah, you know, turn the fucking cameras off. - Now you're learning and turn the fucking cameras off right now. - 'Cause I'm not doing this. Yeah, so today I'll be writing for it as we said, Benny's mammogram, me getting a mammogram. - And I will be writing for thirst traps. - Washing machine on. Pinky seated. - Pinky sat. - Oh, we just ate dinner. Let's do it, baby. Nutra-fold. - Here we go. - You got that Nutra-fold, head of hair, baby girl. - You've probably seen a million ads for hair growth products and thought, "Sure, I actually works." - I did too. - Yeah. - Oh, did you? - Oh, yes. - Is it like that? - I can't even imagine the tin can, it sounds like we're in for these ads. - Letter rip. - So I've all painted my pants. - Why won't you too? - It's like I'm not so useful isn't like the rest of them. - Hey, yeah, I'm not like other girls. Nutra-fold is a physician formulated clinically tested and dermatologist recommend it. - Nutra-fold is the number one dermatologist recommended hair growth supplement brand. 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I guess I could go first. Audrey, you are unnoticed. Audrey, you have our attention. Ms. Hobert, I am diving into this album. You know I won't be able to talk about it for two more seasons, but we are watching, we are listening, and we are excited. - We're shooting. - Hey, you've got it. - You've got it. - That's the effector. You've got that X-factor. - Yeah. - And the London look. And I love her lyrics. I love her whole vibe. I think it's just quirky and delicious. And her song "Thirst Trapped" I played it for you yesterday for the first time. And you loved it. - I loved it. - You just fucking loved it. I said, "Hey, can we play that again?" Because my listening style for songs is like 100 times a day. If I thought it was a song, 100 times a day. - It was so crazy. - I'm hitting back. I'm restarting it. It was crazy. Conan Gray, this song of Dr. Cranberry, I listened once. I was at the airport recently. - Boi Singer. - Shout out to a boy singer. One of the few that we listened to. I listened to 100 times. It's just the second it was done. I said, "Em back." And I've been listening to the song "Silver Moon" by Lord that's not out. It's on YouTube. And I just listened to her perform it live. And I'm just ripping through airports. - You really, you showed me that. - Every night. The silver moon, it changes. Can you say the same? Do you stay the same? So, to talk about their straps quickly. And I'm not going to say that much. Because I don't even, it's like a very. - Is this just at me? - Huh? - Tear it. Like, is this direct at me? Like, is this a sub-tweet? - Yeah, I'm sub-tweeting you on the phone. - I love the concept of sub-tweeting through the first straps. - And in fact, that could be a ride. - I think so, but there's something about. - I'm going to ride for weaponizing close friends soon. - We talked about this. - Before the year's end, before E-O-Y, end of year. - Yeah. - I'm going to ride for weaponizing close friends. But right now what I want to talk about is the practice and the art, the skill of thirst traps. So, the internet has brought us like so much bad stuff, right? But I would say that we have to count our blessings. Because the internet has brought us good as well. Life is all about balance. So, I would say thirst traps to me are part of the good. And obviously, there's thirst traps you see where you think that's not really for me, right? - Of course. - They're not everything supposed to be for you. - It's much like movies like Crossroads and Glitter. - Yeah. - I'm just making sure we're still recording. - We are. - And you're clocking that. - So. - It's clocking you that thing. - It's clocking to me. - Do you know how to understand completely what he meant? - Of course. - No, of course. So, I just want to say on Wikipedia, thirst trap is defined. If I was going to teach a class, thirst traps 101, this is how I'm starting it. - You're good. - A thirst trap. Ready? - Let's see. - Ow. Okay. Are you ready? - Yes. - Yes, Ms. McClarson. A thirst trap is a type of social media post intended to entice viewers sexually. It refers to a viewer's thirst. A colloquialism, a colloquialism, or keeping that. - My favorite word. - Liking sexual frustration to dehydration, implying desperation with the afflicted individual being described as thirsty. - Yeah. You know what? I'm realizing I'm thirsty right now. - You're thirsty right now. - Should I button up or not? - No, we can't button it now. Continuity. - I didn't even think about that. - Continuity for when we reorder the podcast. - Oh, you're so good. - To the way that we want it. - You're so good. - 'Cause we always, we do the end of the beginning in the middle at the top. - So there's nothing better. Oh, God, but like Lord give it. - And the Lord take it by love. He just made a fool of you. You really thought-- - I'm sweating here. - You really thought that there wouldn't be a fern in this podcast studio. - You thought you could get away. - You thought I could get away. - I really thought. - This podcast studio. - That there wouldn't be-- - Don't give me like, drink a guitar, please. - A guitar. - Please. - Do you get that? - No, stop. - What's not clocking to you, baby girl? - It's down. That's so dangerous to have in here. - Betty just got the guitar. So my head just hit a fern. So sit down right now and listen. There's shop 101. Tells us. - What is it? - There's no greater feeling. Then when the thirst trap you post, attract the attention you seek. - I have yet to feel a better thing than that. - When the thirst trap you post gets the attention you seek and receives that attention. When the person that you've posted that for and/or people, there's no greater high that you can feel on the person. - I completely agree because you've put yourself out there. You've felt sexy in the moment and you're like, "I need it. I want this attention. I want to feel sexy and young and desired." And when it is, when someone gives you the standing of for that. - Yeah, I agree. My favorite thing is to respond to that. I love how people respond to the thirst trap. It's like, "Oh my god." - But hey, I'm not done because there's another side to the coin. - Cool. - There's no worse feeling on planet Earth, though when you post a thirst trap for someone, and it's silent. God give it and he to get the way. - So posting thirst traps, it's vulnerable. It's experimental. - Well, yeah, it's experimental. - It's always groundbreaking. I mean, anyone posting a thirst trap, like I'll take a look, you know? - I love seeing my friends do it. Like I love yours and I'm like, "Oh yeah, it's always fun to think like I know who that's for." And I hope I hope you loved it. I always think like I hope you responded to that. And I see that in some. I've been added to a few close friends where I'm like, "I don't know if I earned my spot here, but. " - But you're having fun with it. - Yeah, but I'm like, and like congrats. Like that's a cool thing. - And I'm like, "Whoever you've done this for, I don't think it's for me, but clown." - Could be. - Clown, not sexual. - Non-sexual. But yeah, I was just like, "Oh, cool. Like that's so fun. Good for you." - It's just a risk. And it's like, you always have to be asking yourself, like is the risk versus the reward? Like is it potential payoff worth the potential for it to go completely unnoticed? And maybe there's somebody noticing it that you don't even know yet. But I would say it's just like, it's scary and, you know, it's much like putting yourself out there in a way. - I would say it's like exclusively putting yourself out there. And I was thinking a lot about this because I did Kristen Davis' podcast, and we talked about, I'm your wife and I'm sexual. And I'm like, "Is she so mental?" - Wow, I mean, if that ain't a thirst chef in a nutshell. - Well, doing it right in front of him, showing him the whole shebang and saying, "Guess what? Like, write it. My pony. What's cooler than that?" But I think there's something about it I keep coming back to this thing, I think, within over-compensating of feeling like sex and being sexy for someone is such an interesting concept to me because it's so frequently foolish because the thing that you think is sexy about yourself is so rarely the thing that someone thinks is sexy about you. Like, I, my thing is like, I love like eyebrows and like teeth sometimes are like hot to me. And like, you know what I mean? It's like things like that. - Well, I mean the arm vein, I mean, come on. - Arm vein is explosive. - And the space between a brows strap and a breast. - Smell it. - Like a little, like dip of a butt. I love that. That's so cool. - Bucks. - I think backs are really good. - Bucks are cool. Sometimes it's like, yeah, also just like seeing someone's hands. It can be just like that's so cool. - It's tentillating. - It's tentillating. But no, it's just interesting because like, I think that there's something where you are a little bit of a clown you are coming. kind of being, you're making yourself a little bit of a fool and those things, but I think there's something really beautiful and light and vulnerable about it. But we grew up in media that's like, you know, you do a little strip tease for them, you do like your full makeup, you do, you put on this outfit and it's like, none of that is when the person is like electrified, unless it's you in the JW Anderson dress at-- - At your birthday. - At Sunset Tower. - At Sunset Tower with a-- - With a parasite. - And a parasite. - I had a lot going on that day. - And it was my bestie's birthday. - But you had no idea how sexy you looked. - I know when we got zero photos, which is a crime, but-- - There has to be one somewhere. If anything was there-- - I don't think we got any photos. - If anyone was there, you gotta let us know. - Please let us know. I'm still working on figuring out what the protein is. - We're doing good. - No, you're really like showing it off. It's just one of those things in life where, yeah, it's like, it could be, it could be really beautiful or it could break your heart. - It could break your heart, but isn't that so beautiful that you put yourself out there? That's so special. - I think in the end, it is because it's being human. - I think more painting nude, less nude photos. Does that make sense? I just think we should be, men should be painting women more. - I agree. - We paint them. - I would love to have a painting of you, and I would love to, hey, can I say it? I'd love to be painted. - Yeah, I think we're done. - Come on, would that be so awful? - My uncle Dick was a painter, and his paintings all over my house. Everyone in our family has some of Uncle Dick's paintings. He painted my Aunt Jane nude twice. These are just the most fabulous paintings, and I am obsessed with them, and I want them. They're in the bar at my parent's house right now, and when it's Christmas time, my mom uses magnets to put little santa hats over the nipples, like in love, actually. - It's perfect. - It's festive. - But that's a thirst shopping away. So that's what I've said on thirst shops. - Totally. - I think posts thirst traps early and often, if you don't put yourself on the line a few times, then like, what are we really even doing here? - But obviously, there's a limit, too, where it's like, okay, this person maybe is going through a hard time. - Exactly, and I think it's easy to tell that. - Don't use it as a cry for help. - Don't please. - Please just reach out to friends. - Turn off the cameras. Wait, turn off the cameras. No, I completely agree. It's like, it should just be, it should feel fun, but like, when you feel it and you're proud of yourself and you want to like feel sexy, I think it's so cool to let her rip. It doesn't even have to be for anyone. I can say that too. - I mean, the best thirst traps are the ones you post for you. - They're just for you. - No, I just needed this outfit. - Like, I just wanted to show you that. - Like, I just needed this outfit. - Hey, I have something to show you. - This happens. - When I did Seth Meyers and I got the t-shirt and I just thought to myself, I want to take a search happiness and post it. - It's so cool when you get a piece like that where you're like, oh, this is, you know. - This is in the closet now. - Or when you like, all of a sudden, like you find that kind of just delicious alchemy of a mirror and a sunburn and-- - You can't force it. - You can't force it. - If there's one thing I would say that like, if you're not feeling it 100%, just like try again tomorrow. - Yeah. - Because there's nothing you're gonna gain from posting one that's undercooked. - Completely agree. - And that's what I have to say. - And you'll feel that after you'll know when it's the right one. But sometimes actually you'll post one and you'll be surprised by the reception. - Yeah. - People will tell you, "Actually, you killed her." And you're like, "I didn't know if I died." - Yeah. (screams) - So Mary best said, I have to do this one alone 'cause it's my quote unquote whole deal. But I don't really think I'm defined by OCD. I think OCD is defined by me. Got it. - No, we could take a poll. - So you're going about your day when suddenly a horrifying thought flashes through your mind. Maybe it's a fear of something happening to a loved one, a disturbing or sexual image that keeps your playing in your mind. Mine today was jump in front of the subway. So that's an urge to do something that you don't want to do. I don't want to, okay? So your heart races, your palms sweat and anxiety washes over you. You're mortified. You feel fully convinced that it's true. Even though you know that this isn't who you are, you don't want to do any of these things. But still the question of, why did I think that? Why did I want to push queerist folk reboots any drama onto the tracks? Well, they start to consume you and you feel like you have to do something. Anything to make them go away. Here's the thing about those disturbing unwanted thoughts. They're more common. They're more common than you think. In fact, almost everyone has them. You're going to be such a good mom. But for people with obsessive compulsive disorder or OCD, you always truly mean either. They usually cause a lot of distress and feel hard to stop thinking about. But then I found no CD. No CD is a virtual therapy provider for OCD that's here to help anyone struggling with OCD and taboo or shameful thoughts get the treatment and support they need. Unlike general therapy providers, every no CD therapist specializes in OCD so they deeply understand intrusive thoughts. 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Built is turning a monthly expense into an opportunity to earn rewards and discover the best that your neighborhood has to offer. Your rent is finally working for you. - Or in points on rent and around your neighborhood wherever you call home. By going to joinbuilt.com/ride, that's j-o-i-n-b-i-l-t.com/ride. Make sure to use R-U-R-L so they know that we send you. - Built. - Shh. - So speaking of thirst traps, my mom had me get a mammogram when I was 12. - I just want to put that a little closer. - Hey, please. So I believe I was 12 because it would have been six-- I might have been a little older, maybe 13. I guess 12, 13. So I'm going to tell you the story and then I'm going to say why I ride for this. Because as I tell it, it might not seem like I'm riding for it. - Right, and I think this has been broached on the pod before, but it might have been on our old podcast. - But the only thing I've ever done, I mean, this used to be a part of my live show for overcompensating. - Oh, that's why I'm thinking of it. - Yeah, I used to, like this was, I told this story during my standup and it was just so funny because it's one of those things where you tell it and my mom saw the show and she's like, I'm so sorry, I totally forgot. But yeah, like that was like-- - So-- - She's like, I kinda ate-- - So the guy just hopped around. - She said, listen, if you wanna have my name up there, at least put me on the fucking marquee. It's all she said. - I've actually heard your say that. - That's so patty. No, okay, so I'm 12, 13. And I was going through puberty and my nipples were swelling. And I mean, it was kinda giving like, you know, I'll be honest, like sackage away a dollar. - It was giving a character in the other woman when they put hormones into smoothies. - Yeah, very that. Yeah, her, like the bastard. - Yeah, the bastard. - It was giving those, like, you know, those doctored photos of Nick Jonas where he has like massive like pepperoni nipples. So-- - Totally. - So that's me saying no. - Insert here. - Yeah. - But so I had, yeah, and I was like, you know, mom, like, what's going on here, girl? And she was like, okay, well, we're going to the hospital. - You want to see more tears? - We went to the ER, yeah. And she was like, you know, like, we have to check for-- - And that's why the hospitals are so backed up. - Right now because of people like you guys. - Exactly. Well, I've always said I'm the problem. So we got in the Volvo and we go to the ER and I go and I see this doctor and he was like, look, ma'am, like, I think the only real way to test that would be for your son to get a mammogram. And my mom's like-- - She said, where do I sign? - She said, oh, Ms. Drama. He's going to be getting a motherfuckin' mammogram. - Yeah. - Said, hey. So I go and I get my mammogram. - From what I've heard about mammograms, it's like they put your nipple in a garage door and they close it. - They panini-pressed my little-- - My rack. - Your areola. - I couldn't, it hurt. It's so bad. I had like, you know, even less flesh than I have now. I mean, now I've kind of got a rack. Like, I'd kind of be dropping them on. - Right, you dump them. - Well, that's what they say, they go dump them. And I put my titty in there. They just panini-pressed it to death. Like, fully, like, I mean, I was cooked. And it hurts so bad I had full bruises on them after. And then after I'm in the waiting room and this woman comes out and she's like, Mrs. Skinner. Can I talk to you and your son in my office, please? And I was like, you're fucking kidding me. I'm gay and I have breast cancer. - I have breast cancer, yeah. - I'm like, that's-- - God give it. - I'm like, God damn it. I'm like, wow, the Bible kind of did tell me that I was sick. - You are? - Yeah, oh, it's a life to sit. - It's not that reason, but-- - Totally. So we go into this, you know, into Nurse Jackie's office and she closes the door and she was like, okay, so we ran the test and it, like, really quite a buildup. And I'm also like, we're in her office. Like, she's about to tell me that, like, I do have breast cancer. I'm like, this is fucking insane. And then she's like, it's nothing. It's like, Puberty boys go through this all the time. - Very the lead, honey. Let's start with that. - Yeah, sweetie, just say that. - You could have said that in front of everyone. - Yeah. for that. Yeah. So on the drive home, I remember my mom, she goes, aren't you glad we got them checked? And I was like, got them. Do you mean my sack of Jewie, a dollar nipples? These bubbies? Yeah. No. I'm like, in fact, I'm not at all. I'm like, why didn't we just get a quick Google? Yeah. But we did. And it was so, I just, oh my god. And now my mom literally gets a letter for Benita. Benita Skinner. Yeah. Here's why I ride for it. And I was just thinking about it recently because I just was like, I missed my mom. And I was laughing because it's so go get it checked. And I think as much as maybe it was just like good to make sure I was okay. Like my mom needed it. Peace of mind is priceless. And I, you know, God forbid something was bad. So like preventative checks. Like I of course ride for that. But in the end, like I spent a day with my mom that I think about frequently. You'll never forget it. And I do have a lot of love and compassion for anyone who has to go and get a mammogram because holy fucking shit. My question was though, I guess if you have really large breasts, does it not hurt as much or does that hurt? No, I think it may be hurt. I actually don't know. We'd have to do a little blind, a double blind study. And then can you not get if you have, like if you have implants, can you not get? I don't know how it works. Because I assume, because in my head and my, in drama, end, it would make a pause. Well, just, it's actually come up to you. Yeah. So, and maybe that has happened. And we'll look into it. But I would say, how have they not come up? That's what the doctor says when you're about to go get a mammogram or about to put your booby in there. Your little bobby's. Temple. Remember Dan Nikki your bobby's when Nicki Minaj posted a photo and her, I guess boobs were looking pretty supple. And someone commented, but there was two typos. And it just said, Dan Nikki your bobby's. It meant to say Dan Nikki your bobby. So anyway, it's so right. So I'm surprised. I haven't come up with like a new technology that doesn't involve like smushing them like that to do the screening. But the screenings are important. And you know, get your past mirrors, get your, get your mammograms. I haven't had the pleasure of getting one yet. I think I'm nearing that age where I will have to go in and do that. Colonoscopies are right around the corner. I assume they were every year for every no, I think it's like at a certain age. Right now they just feel. Oh, they, they feel around for we couldn't have done that. Well, I think it's like more. They wanted to use the machine. It's more, they said we've never had a guy in here before. They were like, fuck, we got to get him back there. Yeah, they had a good laugh at your expense. They literally all did. Oh my god, it like barely came. We had barely any tip to squeeze. No, but I think preventative care is really important. Yeah. Again, that's something we, I guess we probably do too much in America. And now they have those body scan things where like you can like, I don't go pay $15,000 and it'll take like every cell in your body or whatever. But I think always it's just peace of mind is priceless. I think go get the thing. Have a bonding experience with your kid with your sibling, with your partner. Come on, sweetie, get in the car. We're getting x-rays. We're getting a man. We're getting an MRI. Yes. I've had much imaging done though. I've had bone scans. I've had MRIs. I would have loved the thing just from, you know, kind of my virgin moment, my cover of virgin moment, I would have loved to get whatever the scan would have if they have it still on the, on a little bit of my big old nips. And you know what? In the end, like for anyone listening, they really, they calm down. I think I grew into them. Totally. I would say I never have once thought since knowing you that your nipples looked disproportionate. I used to think I had bigger nipples, but I think they're actually like just kind of pretty normal, proportional. Thanks, sweetie. I fit you. They're always hard. I will say that about mine always. I mean, right now, well, it's freezing in here. Yeah. But on set, like it's hard to find me with like a really, when they're just sort of, when they're just chill. Yeah. Well, you had yours pierced and you said they were always hard. Well, the pierced one just always looked hard because it was like, you know, at attention. I wonder if they would take that out. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I'm thinking about get the feminine urge to get my nipple pierced again. We'll see. To media. To clip that. We'll see what happens. I haven't made a decision one way or another. We'll talk. It's a good decision, of course. Of course. I mean, I have to sit with my family and decide. Yeah. But I look forward. Well, I guess I'm not really looking forward to the mammogram, but I do like to just know that everything's good, exactly. And another thing that Trump's administration is doing is they're cutting funding for cancer research. So yeah, I guess if you voted for him and you're listening to this podcast, how are we doing? Eat, shouldn't die. And you might. And you might. Yeah. So good luck with everything. We're out here fighting the good fight. The fight to tie a button, I guess, just in case, tie a button. Well, yeah. Sure. You know what you are, Marybeth? Fisexual. Well, yeah. But you're also my ride or die. Ride or die. I ride for Benny's mammogram. I think it's it's such a coming of age. Coming of age. Coming of age. It was really coming of age. I mean, it was, it's why I included it and overcompensating. It was something about the live show. The live show. Yeah. But when I was doing it, it's in the world of all of it, even the way Connie's written, I think in that it does kind of have that. Connie definitely would have taken you there. Yeah, it just has that that flair. Thank you so much. I love when you ride for it. I have to rewrite for it. Yeah, of course. Let's just sell you on it again. Yeah, the experience of it all. It's those days that really stick with you from your upbringing, you should just like recall the job of my mom. My mom took me to get chicken selects after like, she's she's good at her job. She balanced the skills. Of course. The skills of justice. Yeah. And she's like, you know, mother for she said dump dump dump. I ride for it. I mean, what I would live in a glass house if I didn't. I love posting a thirst trap. I think they're just fun and it's like, who gives a fuck? We're not here for that long and I am proud of the work and I'm proud of proud of the rig. So I'll show it off. And I love seeing my friends post them. I'm like, oh, like seeing a friend post a really good one. I'm like, I hope that all your dreams come true. Everything you wanted that to get you. I hope you get I don't think straight men have totally mastered the art yet. I think that those can be really risky. And I understand why you're but they're a good lesson in not doing too much because then when they do, we go crazy. Yeah, I would say like it's a moderation. Straight guys, like I think you could be posting more. Take those risks and just like, yeah, live laugh, love, because we'd love to see what you're working with. One, two, three, down, down phone. Oh, my exit. Any babe, eyes on the road. There you go. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The podcast explores the power of personal questions like "Do you see me as a clown or a sexual being?" as tools for self-reflection and understanding how others perceive us.
  2. A memorable moment at an acne store in London sparks a deeper conversation about vulnerability, connection, and the emotional impact of shared experiences.
  3. The hosts reflect on the emotional and sensory power of music, especially songs like "Thirst Traps" and "Migrate," which evoke strong personal and emotional responses.
  4. A personal story about getting a mammogram at age 12 is shared as a pivotal moment of growing up, highlighting the importance of preventative care and maternal bonding.
  5. The hosts discuss the cultural stigma around certain forms of expression—like music, fashion, or sexual vulnerability—and how they are often dismissed by society.
  6. They advocate for joy, authenticity, and risk-taking in everyday life, especially through practices like posting "thirst traps" as a form of self-expression and empowerment.
  7. The episode touches on broader social issues, including the impact of political policies on medical research and the importance of personal health awareness.
  8. A recurring theme is the balance between vulnerability and safety, emphasizing that being seen and felt is powerful—even when it leads to discomfort or anxiety.

Summary:

The podcast blends personal storytelling, humor, and social commentary to explore themes of self-perception, vulnerability, and connection. ”—to examine how people view themselves and each other. This leads into a rich narrative about moments of emotional awakening, such as a trip to an acne store in London and a childhood experience of getting a mammogram at age 12.

The mammogram story becomes a symbol of early personal growth, maternal love, and the importance of preventative care. The hosts also discuss the cultural dismissal of things like pop music, fashion, and sexual expression, calling for greater acceptance and celebration of individuality. They celebrate the art of "thirst traps" as a form of playful, vulnerable self-expression, emphasizing that authenticity and risk-taking are valuable, even when uncertain.

The episode concludes with a broader reflection on societal norms, political impacts on health, and the importance of personal boundaries. Through humor, honesty, and heartfelt anecdotes, the podcast encourages listeners to embrace their true selves, take risks, and find joy in everyday moments of connection and authenticity.

FAQs

A thirst trap is a social media post designed to entice viewers sexually, often implying sexual desire or vulnerability. The podcast highlights it as a fun, vulnerable, and experimental way to express oneself and gain attention, while also noting it can be risky and not always received positively.

The host rides for Benny's mammogram as a meaningful personal experience tied to their upbringing and mother's care. It represents preventative health, a bonding moment with their mother, and the importance of early medical checks, even when painful or awkward.

This question explores identity, perception, and vulnerability in social interactions. The podcast uses it as a metaphor to examine how people are seen and how self-expression—especially in comedic or sexual contexts—can be misunderstood or misinterpreted.

The host describes it as painful and uncomfortable, involving pressure on the nipples that causes physical pain and bruising. Despite the discomfort, they emphasize its importance for health and peace of mind.

The podcast critiques how society often mocks or undervalues things considered 'girly,' like fashion, pop music, or movies such as Glitter or Crossroads, even though these can be deeply personal and meaningful to individuals.

The host sees thirst traps as a fun, bold, and sometimes risky way to express oneself and gain attention, especially when done for personal satisfaction or to connect with friends, though they stress the importance of self-awareness and not using it as a cry for help.

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