Being True To Yourself with Trisha Yearwood

Are we getting off into La La Land? I'm really enjoying myself here. - Me too, I don't want this to be over. (laughing) (upbeat music) - Well, welcome back to Living and Learning. I'm reaping my entire. You know, I love getting to talk to some of my favorite people about the things that really matter to me, the kind of stuff that you only get when you sit down with a friend and really get the chance to catch up. It's almost like Trisha, every time you and I get back together, we just kind of pick up where we left off. - That's true. - That's the kind of conversations I love. And that's why I love doing this show so much because it makes me slow down, connect with you, with people and talk about what's going on, whether it's in my life, your life, or just in the world in general, having these conversations really gets into the heart of things. And that's what this show is all about. It's called Living and Learning. And I'm really delighted that you decided to come on and be my guest today. Now, all you listeners, you guys know her as an iconic Grammy, CMA, ACM award-winning singer, an actress, a chef, the host of her own Emmy-winning cooking show, Trisha's Southern Kitchen, which I've been on, had so much fun. And thank you very much for sending all that food home with me. So good. And of course, the author of several best-selling cookbooks, including Trisha's Kitchen, Easy Comfort Food for Friends and Family, which it just came out September. So get out there and grab yourself a copy. And I just want to say to everybody out there, the Trisha that you know, it's the big star and up on stage, is the same Trisha I've known for years. She's the same person you see on stage, off stage, and in the grocery store. That's what I love for about you so much. Ladies and gentlemen, Trisha, you're wood. - Oh, well, thank you. I mean, I want to introduce you. I could say the same exact things about you. Our experience with each other is a little different because when I met you, I was wanting to be a singer in this town and you were Reba already and you're larger than life and you're kindness to me. Not only as an up-and-coming artist, but just as a person. You've been a mentor to so many of us on how to be, and how to treat other people, and how to work in this business. And I'm just proud to call you, friend, and deciding to join you. I was like, you just call. I mean, you know, I've told you, I'll come in my yard like I'm your girl. - When did we meet? I remember after an ACM show, we were at the after party, and I sat down with you and your mom. - Yeah. - Was that what that meant? The first time that, that might be the first time we met, the first time that, well, I met you once that you won't remember because I was standing in line to get your autograph. You wouldn't remember that. But you were, that time you were, you were at a record shop back when they were record shops in the '80s, and I had just moved to town, and I saw that you were signing autographs, and so I went out there and stood in line. I'd never done that before in my life. So much so that when I got to the table where you were sitting, I, the amateur, I had nothing to sign. I mean, I was just like, no idea. And you were so sweet. You were like, you had these little black and white flyers, I had your name on them that you were going to be at the record shop, and you said, I'll sign one of these for you. And I'm like, great. And you're like, well, what's your name, honey? And I'm like, it's Patricia. And so, so you were so good to me. And I understand to a degree now being on the other side of the table what it feels like when somebody can't speak, I feel so much sympathy for them, my empathy, because I've been there. Then my very first CMAs that I was on, I didn't meet you that day, but you sent me flowers. And I know that you have famously, a lot of us chick singers talk about the Reba flowers because you walk in that dressing room, you don't know anybody, you feel intimidated, you think everybody's not gonna like you. And there's a big bouquet of flowers in the corner. Of course, I thought they were from my mom and dad. And when I walked over and they were for Reba back entire, I was like, oh my gosh. So I think you extended the hand of friendship, you know, long before we met. And I just want the world to know that you are absolutely what you think people, people love you because they're like, I just feel like we can be friends and the truth is that's exactly who you are. - Oh, you are so sweet. Talking about flowers, do you remember the time when I meant to be texting or emailing, Patricia McClannahan, who worked for me at the time to send Faith Hill flowers for her birthday. And you emailed me back and said, well, I guess I can figure it out. I hadn't done that in a while, but or something like that. And I thought, oh my God, I was hysterical. You just went right along with it. Well, you know, I mean, I can still do it for you if you need me to. - You just the same all the time. You've dealt with so many things in your life where very similar, you know, we get married, we get divorced and now we're happy. And how do you deal with all the changes? Just roll with it or what? - Well, I mean, I think you do. I mean, I think you and I both were raised by parents who kept us grounded, who really told us who we were, who we are, and that stays with you. Long after your parents are gone, there's a, there's a, my mom and dad kind of looking up my shoulder all the time. And I always say, I don't always do the right thing, but I know what the right thing is because of how I was raised. And I think you and I have that in common. And it's like I was kind of raising the South in a community where you didn't want to ever disappoint anybody. You want everybody to be happy. And at some point in your life, you learn, okay, people might not agree with every decision I make. And I'm gonna, people gonna say bad things about me or good things about me. That can't be what determines who I am and how I behave and how I respond. And you just kind of, you just kind of move on. And being an artist and entertainer, you know, no matter what's going on right before you walk on stage. No matter if you just gotten the divorce papers or you've just heard that someone's passed or whatever's going on, your job is to go out there and entertain. So I think we're good at compartmentalizing because we have to and kind of doing what you need to do in the moment. And then you can have your private time to deal with the private stuff. But all right, before we go any further, how about this secret talent you have of impersonating me? (laughing) Well, I mean, you're not the only person I've seen it. Who do you like to impersonate the best? I don't hear that. I'm a person. I do it really good when I'm not, and I do it pretty good. I wanna hear. Yeah. When I'm not, is, I won't walk. To no particular destination. I'm in pretty good. I'm better after a glass of wine. I'm better at wine. The impersonations come out better when I'm drinking. (laughing) Let me hear share. If I could turn back town. I mean, these are just, this is just my first cup of coffee, Rayba. I can hear you. You are really good at that. Wow, I'm just singing and cooking thing. Don't work out for you. You know, you could go to Vegas and be a impersonator. Well, next time you do your Vegas show, call me out. Come out. Okay. Perfect. Perfect. No, that's too cute. Reinventing yourself. All right, we had a topic of that on our first season of the podcast. And reinventing yourself is something I like to do because my mom always said I had the attention span of a two-year-old. Why did you get into all the things that you've done past singing? You're cooking and furniture and. There are people who have inspired me to, to not think you only have to do one thing. And you're one of those people. You know, Dolly Parts, one of those people. Like just like if you can dream it, you can do it kind of thing. And I always knew since I was a little girl that I wanted to sing, but I always just, I don't know where this crazy, I'm not, I feel like I'm an insecure person, but I must have some kind of crazy confidence that I can do stuff because I'm not afraid to try anything. And when I moved to Oklahoma to be with Garth and before we married and I cut my tour dates way down and I was sitting there going to soccer games and trying to figure out, you know, he retired, but I didn't. So what am I gonna do? And I went to New York to do a meeting about writing an autobiography. I took the meeting to be nice. I didn't want to write an autobiography. I was, I was 40. I was like, never gonna tell the stories people want to hear. Yeah, I'm not gonna write this, but I don't want to do this. And I'm sitting in a publisher meeting and they said, "Well, what would you want to write about?" 'Cause we think that people would be interested. And I said, "Well, I like to cook." And then they immediately looked disappointed. They were like, "Well, celebrity cookbooks, you know, people don't, if you don't really cook." I'm like, "No, but I really cook, like I really do." And so I left there with a cookbook deal. I don't even know. It was a totally off-the-cuff comment. Call my mama and my sister. And I said, "I just volunteered us to write a cookbook. We're gonna have to get that done." So it came out of something off-the-cuff, but also that I really enjoy doing. And I never, I never dreamed it would turn into what it has turned into. But it's been such a blessing for me because I'll always make music, you know? But, you know, I'm not 25 anymore, you know? And so I wanna find things to do that I enjoy. And I do enjoy it. And I probably like you. I just don't say yes to anything that I don't think I will really enjoy. And that's when things are successful. When you put yourself into something that you really enjoy doing, then you have the most chance for it to work. So that success in cooking and the TV screen. show turned into all these other opportunities in lifestyle that I and I say not a lot of stuff, but I just say yes to the things I think I'll enjoy doing. Yeah, because that's your time. And when you take your time to do something, you better love it. Exactly. That's what people said to me about doing other Broadway play after I got through doing any get you gun. Would you do another Broadway play? I said, I'd love to, but it's got to be something that I'm even more passionate about than I was about any openly because that's the hardest work I ever did. And it's not fair to the audience and the people behind the product are watching you. If you don't absolutely love it, I'm not that good of an actress to fake it. Well, I saw you in any get your gun. You were amazing. I agree with you though. I mean, I've not done Broadway, but that's no joke. That's a lot of work. And you're not doing it for the money. And you're, you're, you're there every single day in matinee's and singing. I mean, I can't imagine. So yeah, I agree with you. It's like, you've got to, you better, you better love it because it's going to be hard work. And again, I mean, I feel like this is the reason I can tire on your fan show, but watching the way you work, your work ethic is really inspiring because it's like, you're great. I mean, you're a great singer, you're a great actor. You're a great auditor. But you're also a really hard worker. The, the secret is work. And when you don't want to work anymore, just work harder. That's really the secret. Yeah, yeah, it is. When we got into singing, Paik Suzy and myself, Daddy would be talking to people and I'd hear him talk about losing his best three hired hands on the ranch to music. And, and we all look at each other, like, we're no dummies. The singing's a lot easier than going out there at four o'clock in the morning, trying to find horses to saddle up in a 40 acre pasture. Did you have any idea that your life would take the path it did when you were young? Did you dream of this? I definitely did. My first memory of like telling people I was going to do this. I was about five years old. And I think I told people I was going to be share. I think I'm pretty sure I did. Well, you're part there. But I was watching Sunny and Cher Show and all that. I just saw it. If you can be a visionary, I saw myself on stage. I saw myself on the Grand Ole Opry and I didn't have a backup plan. You know, I, I finished college here in Nashville because I wanted to get to Nashville. I mean, that was my, my, my getting a bell maw was not a plan to work in some, in the industry in some other way. It was like, I got to get to that town. And this is how I'm going to do it. So, for me, there just wasn't an option. And I grew up on a farm, a 30 acre farm. We had towels that you'd have to go out and find. They decided to have their caps at two o'clock in the morning in the, in the ice, you know, whatever. We had a, we had a big guard. And my parents both had real jobs too. So, yeah, I mean, it was, it was definitely in a place where nobody that I knew was doing that. We didn't have a local bar. You know, there was no place to do this. So it was a big dream and a crazy dream. But I just always believed, well, I'm listening to people on the radio and somebody's got to do it. Well, why can't I be one of those people? Trisha, you know that in our business, the most important thing to do to be successful and to maintain a career in the music business is to find songs. How does it feel to look back on 30 years since she's in love with the boy came out? Did you ever and your wildest dreams have any idea how big that song would become? To me, it was the perfect match. How did, how did you find it? I mean, I, I remember going to listen to songs with my producer, Gareth Fundus in his little office. And we were listening to a bunch of stuff. And he, he said, I got this song and he had this drawer full of cassettes and things that he, you know, just kept. And he's like, I've got this song, but he was, he was producing Don Williams. He's like, this is for a girl, but I, I don't know, I want to play it for you. It's been around town a while. Everybody's kind of passed on it. And he played it for me and it wasn't, it wasn't like I sat there and went, this is a hit. First of all, I'd not made a record. So I had no idea what a hit was. I knew what I liked. You know, I knew what, I still don't know what a hit it is. I just know the songs I like. But I liked it. I just thought it was a great story. You know, I love it. You know, country music at its best to me is a, is a great story song. And I love the story of nobody being good enough for that as a little girl. And you could put yourself in, depending on where you were in your life, you could put yourself in that song. You could be the girl who I definitely had boys that my dad would not let me go out with. I, you know, that, and I thought he ruined my life, but he rarely saved my life, of course. And then, and then, you know, I've been the parent who's now had girls that, you know, you're like, you're not going, this is not happening. So, so you can put yourself in every position. And so we just love, we just like the song. I don't need, and you know, there are people now who will say, oh, I knew that we knew that was a hit. And like, but you didn't really know. Like we just, we put it out really. Yeah, did you really know that the first single was going to be hopefully a good introduction to Trishier, what? And we would go from there. Yeah. And I think, well, you know, you're lucky to have a song like that in your career to be able to, to sing every night and have people respond the way they do. And, and have, you know, now girls who weren't born when that song came out, who know it, you know, then must have just had good parents. I'm sure you see that at your shows. And I had a moment at first. I'm entering into that, you know, I'm about to be 57. And I'm entering into that mode of like, letting go of the fact that I'm not 25 anymore. And embracing these young girls when, used to when a young girl would come out and go, I grew up on New Music. I listened to you since I was five. I would just be like, I don't just don't want to hear that. I don't want to be. Oh, I get a lot of this. I get a lot of my grandmother loves you. I get that too. I get that too. You're like, that's great. But I think that's wonderful. I think it's what's what's cool now is to kind of segue into that mode of like, especially some of these younger artists who did grow up on our music in the 90s, to be able to be their friend and kind of tell them what it's like. I mean, I know, I know that, you know, you're not that you and I are not that different in age. No, but I, but I feel like I grew up behind you because you were so far ahead of me in the music industry. And so it's, you have been a mentor, you know, to me. So it's kind of, I'm kind of trying to put myself in that mode. Honestly, when when I, when I realized it was a 30th anniversary, I almost didn't want to tell anybody. I was like, if we tell everybody it's the 30th anniversary, she's like, they're going to know how old I am. Then I just got over it. So I'm enjoying it. I'm proud of it. I think it's a testimony to a really good song. It was written by a guy named John Ems out of Colorado. And I think it's a great, you know, it's just a, a good song stands test the time. Well, it sure does. It's the most listened to country song on the radio by a female artist in history. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. It's absolutely wonderful. That's crazy. Oh, and speaking of you've got a new acoustic recording. It's available on your every girl deluxe edition album. It's out right now, right? Yeah. We, we decided to, uh, to re-release. We released every girl kind of right before the pandemic happened. And we decided to re-release it. Just a digital version and add a couple of things. And Garth and I had recorded shallow during the whole Tom's fan request thing. We decided to put that on there too and and another bonus track. It was cool to go back in and re and record it again after all this time and kind of, you know, people want to hear the song the way they originally heard it. So we didn't do anything radical to it, but we did do it at just an acoustic version. And not only with your cooking, have you diversified from music, but your pet collection, the, the backpack you gave, Riddler, Rex and my, uh, French Bulldog, we use it every day. I love that. How'd you get into that? Well, in Oklahoma, especially we lived on the end of a road that was had a big curve. And everybody, everybody dumped their like couches there. It was like a place everybody got the dumpster stuff and a lot of animals, a lot of dogs, you know, and so I became sort of the unofficial rescuer in our, in our little town and adopted out a bunch of dogs, kept a bunch of dogs and got really good friends with the vet there and he helped me a lot. And ever since I was a kid, we always, you know, every dog we ever got was one that wandered up or we saw, you know, walking down the highway, whatever. So I've kind of always done it. And I wanted to do something after 30 years and other, all these careers. I tasked my team with the next thing we do, I want it to find a way for it to give back. It's, it's wonderful to be successful on this, but we got to find a way. What is our path to give back? And animals are my, you know, dogs, especially, but animals, dogs and cats are my thing. And so, um, this TY pet line was really created to, to eventually give to, to shelters and to rescue and all that. And so we just launched something called Doddy's yard. I had a dog that Oklahoma dog, who was the best stray ever. And she, uh, she was the, the rescue route. I would come home and she'd have another dog at the house. I'm like, she would vet and decide if they were okay and they could stay. And so it's called Doddy's yard. And we just gave our first money to the Humphrey's County, uh, the way really floods to the, um, to the rescue there to help with, with them. And it just feels good. It's like we're, um, we're creating things for people and their pets that I want for my own animals. I want, you know, really, I want really good dog beds where the covers, everything goes in the washing machine. I want, you know, all the things that I want for these dogs is my dogs. live and they have to be wiped down about every day after going outside and run around the farm so they think we need the wipes all those things you know so it came out again something that I really am passionate about and I'm really excited about it because of the opportunity that we're gonna have to hopefully educate people on he's spaying and neutering and also educate people on adopting it and you know from a shelter if you can okay I got to ask you a question on the hotspots do your dogs get hotspots allergic reactions on their back around their neck anywhere I haven't had these my current dogs don't but I've had dogs that that did and you know we used to always get this stuff from the vet that you sprayed on to keep them from licking the hotspots we have a bomb like it's almost like it looks like lip balm for a person but it's a lavender balm that I put on any rough place on them like on their feet or on their elbows and it keeps so far it's kept them from getting anything keeps everything kind of soft but yeah the hotspot is definitely thing and I I think it happens a lot in the summer and I think some animals don't get them and I think some do yeah Shelby's dog Watson he's a corgi he gets it and then riddler was getting them real bad and so when I took him to the vet he was saying wipe his paws off really well wiping down when he comes in off the grass especially if it's in the morning on the do you've ever heard of that so I wiped him down every time he comes in I didn't know that that's good to know maybe I need to do that on my dog see I just learned something for me to have your own pet well thank you or be a consultant for me yeah he comes in he'll stand real still for me and I wipe all his little paws one time I picked up his back leg and he was prepared for that and he kind of fell over so we all had a big laugh about that and his expense he didn't think it was funny at all but I did he's a character French Bulldogs they're they're clowns they're so funny I just love them my dogs like they like skunks and they like any kind of poop you know that's their thing so yeah they have to be inside outside dogs and Garth has a much more he's Garth is a dog's ought to be outside person and I'm a dog's ought to be on the other pillow person so we've had to kind of compromise so they have dog beds that as long as they're on their beds they can be inside but when they have when they have skunk or anything else you know it's like well you're gonna be outside for a couple days okay so what do you do about when they do get in with a skunk what how do you get that smell off I mean I have finally and I've told my I've told my folks the next thing we're developing is a skunk shampoo perfect but because we really do need one but what I have learned is when a dog gets sprayed by a skunk the first thing you want to do is wash them and that and if you put water on them it it makes all that skunk smell go in to the hair follicle so don't put water on them put baking soda on them and that'll pull that out and then you wash them okay but I'll do that and then I'll take them to the vet too and just say can you do your something on my dogs because they've been sprayed oh but they always and I've heard stuff I used to use tomato juice on a dog that that yeah that just gets I didn't work that just gets tomato juice everywhere it doesn't really work yeah yeah well okay enough about our animals that we love so much hey do you remember when we were in Washington DC for I think it was Loretta at the Kennedy Center Honors and we went to lunch I do and that was so much fun I'll never forget you or Garth one saying that Garth's favorite color is blue and everything in the house in Oklahoma was blue when you first got there how's Garth doing and I'm wearing blue right now he's good yeah it's funny it's funny because I do love blue but when I went out there he had moved into this little cowboy bunkhouse on this property he was gonna build a house and which we ended doing but we live in that bunkhouse for four years and it was little you know I mean it was a 1200 square foot house and not unlike how I grew up but he had decorated it he did it and so the carpet was blue the couches were blue the curtains were blue the towels were blue the bed sheets were blue the dishes were blue I mean I I had never seen anything like it in my life the boy likes blue when we built our mouths he kept telling people don't don't show anything blue she hates blue I'm like no I don't hate blue I just don't think everything should be blue but he's good oh my gosh he is a carrot he adores you I know that but well I adore him are you still playing poker yes we are I know I keep saying I'm gonna come over and play poker with you I know we we do have to do that I mean you know this whole crazy pandemic thing has got us all sitting at home by ourselves but we definitely need to do that I didn't know how to play poker at all until we did the video your video oh my own yes I'll be dang anybody who's seen that we we're sitting around and and you had to give me a quick poker lesson so you're it's your fault and we don't play for money we just play for fun but yeah yeah well I we started playing Rex and I started playing well Rex had been doing it before but he let me join in a group of people and they do it online Texas hold them oh yeah I love Texas hold it it was fun I'm learning how to play it so it's fun we also somebody gave us those those virtual reality things those things you know that go in your head have you seen that yes so there's a poker game you can go on virtual reality and you can play poker and we have a couple friends at Oklahoma that we used to play poker with all the time and so they got these Oculus we go on and play poker in a private room and you can talk to each other and see each other's little avatars it's like you're sitting at the table together I've got to get that and you can play Texas hold them anywhere anybody okay don't tell Rex I'm gonna get that foreign for his birthday okay I think you love it speaking of cooking I got to tell you this when I was in college and I might have already told you because it's my famous cooking story my roommate Brenda Lee from Cowell Oklahoma taught me how to cook a chicken fry a chicken and I burned up two chickens before I got it right I did not know this so oh my gosh I'm I'm getting better and Rex and I just love to cook but you have a new one a new cookbook that just came out called Trisha's Kitchen easy comfort food for friends and family now I know what comfort food means to me what does it mean to you it's a bunch of stuff sometimes it's something that you might think is I used to think it was just decking up food like macaroni and cheese and things that you don't need to eat every single day but I think what it really is it's crazy it's what yeah whatever brings you comfort you know and so for me a lot of times it's just something that my mom used to make or my dad my dad was a cook too or it is something like if it's raining outside in a cold day you just want some kind of hearty soup I mean so it's different for everybody and it's different every day I take pride in the fact that I am not a chef although I I do want to go to culinary school someday in my spare time because I'd love to learn I'd love to learn all the things that I don't know because I'll he I'll watch these chefs talk about using some spice that's inspired from some different country in the world I'm like I have no idea like I just use salt and pepper and maybe a little girly powder from getting crazy but I also like that most people who don't think they can cook can make this recipes because they're not hard they're they're basic home cooking like my like my mom and dad did what I think is that you and Rex should come over sometime for dinner but we'll cook together because that's the best way to kind of that that's and it's fun you know usually when somebody comes over to my house it's like how can I help people everybody you know we always want to help when you go to somebody's house when they're cooking dinner so that's what we should do is that you come over and we'll pick something to cook and then you can go home and make it y'all can make it together perfect okay so what's your favorite recipe from the book because I don't want to cook it myself and that way I can kind of get into it what do you think your favorite one of my favorite things I'm making right now a lot I kind of go through phases where I'll make you know the same thing right now it's a it's a chicken pop pie burger and it's like I don't know if you like chicken pop pie but it's like oh my gosh you saw today the vegetables that go in a burger then you put it in ground chicken and you cook the chicken burger and then you make the gravy that goes over the burger is basically the gravy that would be in the chicken pop pie it's pretty amazing and I you serve it on a bun but I recently made it and once the cookbook's done I still keep developing the recipe I'm like what if I made a giant biscuit for it instead of a bun ooh that's not in the book but I did do that last time and it it's a good idea just FYI okay all right so we're gonna we're gonna pick something and I'll a Rex and I'll come over and we'll cook it together that sounds like a lot of fun it does now does Garth cook he does we'll get in there with us oh yeah okay good all right definitely he's in whatever it takes guy he will all four yeah okay good deal done deal stay tuned after the break we'll be right back with more all right now I thought we could play a fun little food-based game since you're the queen of kitchen and I'm the queen of making reservations it's called the game is called Trisha year wood or wouldn't okay so I'm gonna go through a list of exotic weird or just playing out their foods and you and I will both say if we year wood or wouldn't eat them okay all right all right let me hear what you would say about snake soup uh wouldn't your wouldn't I have eaten snake though uh-oh yep I've eaten crocodile yeah I have two had snake can't taste it like chicken you did kind of greasy chicken wouldn't do it again yeah greasy chicken no care. Okay. Rocky mountain orsters. I wouldn't. I have all my life. We just call them mountain orsters. I figure you. You had you was saying yes. That was just a staple. It was just like going and getting stuff out of the garden. We just harvested them down at the pens. Yeah, no. Uh-uh. No. Okay. Spam. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Freeblewood. 100-year-old egg. I'm gonna say no. That'll be a hard year wouldn't pass on that. I'm gonna agree with you on that too. Okay. Ask cargo. No. I'm I'm based. I've eaten it. I love it. I love it. I just. Okay. Okay. Okay. Here's a here's a given chips and sour cream. Oh, favorite snack. Your wood. All they love it. Oh, all day long. Okay. Here's one that I didn't even know what it was. So they had to give me an explanation. Marmot. Your wood, isn't it like? Isn't it like? Am I I'm gonna sound like really stupid, but I don't really know. Is it peanut butter? No. That's vegetable. It's made from it's oh yeah. It's a might. It's in the might family. Home cook. Home cook. Not a chef. Write that down. What is Marmot? Okay. Well, it's made from using the product. It's a byproduct of brewing beer. Marmot or veggies. Oh, what you said as it's known in Australia is essentially the slurry from the bottom of the barrel that most breweries just throw away. It's a sticky brown paste with a concentrated salty flavor that's usually spread on toast or eaten with cheese. People are either love it or hate it. But you try it. I mean, I would try. Yeah. If it's sweet, I'd try anything. I'll try. Okay. All right. Have you ever heard of Eskimo. ESCA MOL Eskimo. No. It's also known as insect caviar. Big ol' no. Oh yeah. No need. Well, I mean, you can tell me how it's made, but I'm not gonna eat it. I'm not either. It's harvested from the tequila or the mescal plant. It's considered something of a delicacy. Kind of have the consistency of cottage cheese and a buttery nutty taste. All right. But here's the weirdest. Wasp cracker. No. Yeah. You guessed it. It's a biscuit. Yeah. It's a biscuit filled with wasps. Thick chocolate chip cookies. Only the insects replace the chocky chips. The chocolate chips. Apparently the digger wasp, which the biscuit contains, has a pretty mean sting. I wish you'd luck. I'm trying this out. Yeah. No, I don't know. Peanut butter and cheddar cheese. Oh yeah. Yes. I must have, you know, that's one of my snacks. That's one of my go-to's. Love it. I love it. Love it together. What's the weirdest thing you think you've had to eat that people think is weird or that you would have thought, I don't know, I've never eaten this before and tried that you liked. What's the weirdest thing I've ever eaten? Well, you know, we live don't work in cattle ranch, so we butchered our own beef. And so when we'd get to the bottom of the deep freeze, the freezer, that would have the brain and the tongue, kidneys, all that kind of stuff. Well, I would make myself disappear because, you know, back on the ranch, if you didn't finish your meal, you got it the next meal or you sat there at the table until you finished it. But yeah, tongue and brains was one thing I just couldn't put enough ketchup on. Yeah. Same. I couldn't do it either. We butcher our own beef as well. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. But my mother would let me have, if they were having that, she would let me have vanisauces out of a can. Now, I'm thinking in my head now, you would, I would eat something out of a can. I didn't know it was in it, but I wouldn't eat, I wouldn't eat what they had harvested and killed them and packaged themselves, but I would eat. And I just thought it was the best thing. I got to eat vanisauces just that night. I was just so excited about it. That's embarrassing to tell, but that's the truth. Well, we would get up in the hills, gathering cattle all day or are building fence or something when it came time for lunch. Daddy would have canned sardines or as he called them, Vaini sausages and salting crackers and a big gallon jug of water, which had been sitting in the truck for about three hours. And so that's what we had for lunch. And I love vanisauces. I really love it. I think they're great. I didn't. We do. I love it. But that's, I mean, Rex will eat everything. I mean, he's been to all over the world, eaten monkey brains and stuff that I can't even pronounce. So I don't know. Well, Garth is still the oaky. So he didn't try much much new stuff. I got to keep it pretty basic for him. Well, thank you, girl friend for being here with me today on my little episode of Living and Learning, on my podcast. I'm really having a good time doing this. I'm learning some things. And the best part is just getting a visit with friends and love you with all my heart. And let's get together soon and cook up some really good food, sit around and then play poker. That sounds good. This is this, it feels like a conversation and it's always good to talk to you and not just saying it for the podcast, but we are going to do that dinner and we're, we keep talking about it and we're going to absolutely do it. Absolutely. And I just congrats on everything. I'll send you some dates. Okay, please do. Thank you. To you too. I love you with all my heart. I love you too. Bye. Bye. Well, thanks for listening to Living and Learning with R even McIntyre. A Spotify original production. Our lead producer is Dylan Rupert with producer Baron Farmer. Our executive producers are Gina Delvack, Yassie Solick, Danny Trebatch, and Justin McIntosh, editing by Cheryl Crosby, original music by Doug Seismore. Special thanks to Leah Edwards, Robert Adler, Casey Simonson, and Kyla Cunero. I'm your host, Dribble McIntire. Follow us only on Spotify.