Behind The Scenes at Laguna Seca With Pete Brock and Zak Brown

Well, legendary driver, designer, constructor, the guy who made and built the car that just sold for 43 million bucks. The Shelby Daytona Pete Brock, my old friend, is back for a walk around that car. We're out on the road. This is a car week special in Zach Brown, the team principal, the man who runs McLaren f1, who also brings a lot of cars to race. We'll take a walk around his race cars, so we'll do a special Pebble Beach edition right after this. Hello, and welcome to Pluto foal. If you know the name of the movie you'd like to see, just stream it for free on Pluto TV. We're all your blockbuster favorites are landing all summer long. Catch anchor man, the legend of Ron Burgundy. Fantastic. The Matrix trilogy. Welcome to the real world. Mean girls. Ah. I'm the key in the world. And so much more for showtime. Press nothing. They're free. 24/7. That is so fast. On Pluto TV, stream now. Pay never. From Monterey, California, this is the Adam Corolla show. Adam's guest today, car designer Pete Brock, and the CEO of McLaren Racing, Zach Brown, and now Adam Corolla. Brock, you know, from him, one of his legendary creations, Shelby Daytona. I know a lot about the car. You should know that in the Ford V Ferrari movie, whenever said plywood buck in the background, whenever they're in Shelby's shop, that's Pete's creation, that's this car, but not this car. This car was Italy, right? Well, this car is a car that actually sold Ford to go with Shelby, because it was the success of this particular car that Ford looked over and said, it's the team that's winning. That's the tool we should be with, and that's why he hired Shelby. But the car was not accepted because it was not a "Ford" and they had their one to build up the GT40s. So the rule for homologation is it's the chassis, it's not the body. So who figured that out? This is a re-skinned cobra, and normally you have to homologate, make, you know, 50 examples of it, but you already had the homologation done for what's interesting story. What happened is that cars had to be built, built 500 cars, all right? Now Ferrari was doing very well with this car, they call it a short wheelbase Ferrari. But as they went along about third or fourth year, the E-types and the Aston Martin's were beginning to catch up with them. So they had to make some changes to the car. But Ferrari didn't want to make any changes aerodynamically to the car because it was so successful, but the guys in the shop said no, we can make a better Ferrari, they were working on the GTO body lines aerodynamically and they went on, they got better and better and better. And they finally showed them that the car was so fast with the new body on it that that was what they should do. But Ferrari didn't want to build 500 of those cars. So there was a wording in the rules that there was called an evolution of type that you could maybe change the grill a little bit or the wheel open or whatever. So he tried to trick the FIA into saying that his total new body was just an evolution of type. And they said no, no, no, we're not going to accept that. So Ferrari went around to every organizer of every race that he was going to run and he said, if you don't call your representatives at the commission sports teams and allow them to make one off changes to the body completely, I won't bring my team. So they changed the rules that you could put a new body if you long as you had the original chassis that had been elongated. He had no suspension that you know that Shelby had already done, you know, more than 500 race A.C.A.C.S.s versus so we were lot and that was what I was trying to talk Shelby into. I said, look at the rules are wide open. We can build a new body on this thing for nothing and we can go out and smoke everybody. So this aluminum body, all aluminum bodies, right? And originally you made box like wooden box and stretchy aluminum, shape the aluminum. And then I think went to Italy at some point where they do a wire frame system. Oh we actually did them, we sent the buck over there. Oh you sent the buck to it? But the first time that they did it because they built it off the chassis, they did it pretty much by eye. The Italians were just fabulous doing that. But we had made a mistake on the first chassis we sent over and the cow tube was made about an inch and three quarter to high. Consequently the windshield was a little bit higher on it. So that particular Ferrari, excuse me that particular Daytona had a roof line that was not like the other five cars. And they're six altogether. Six together, right? So one built at Shelby, right? That was the first car and there was a lot of resistance to building that car at them because everybody thought the whole idea of chopping off the tail and doing this aerodynamic shape was very ugly. So there was a lot of resistance on it so it wasn't until Ken Miles came along and talked to Shelby and said listen, if you look at the numbers on what Pete's trying to tell you there's some, let us do the car. So Shelby finally agreed to let us do the car but there was no money. So finally we got good year, good year came in and we said let us do a body for testing tires a new car. So they put up the money on it because we couldn't do it because if we put the money up that way and Ford said we're building something that's going to compete with Ford, they would not bid it happy. So Carol was trying to keep the whole program down, didn't want Ford to know that we were doing something was concerted to Ford. And then of course when the car went out and tested and it was so fast, then Henry Ford looked at it after we won Sebring with it, which was the second race and he said okay, let's follow through and keep putting some money behind this car until we get the GT40 built. So in that first year, this car set the lap record on every track that we ran on and the Ford's didn't finish one race. The GT40s, the GT40s and the Sings, Ford up, yeah. And at Daytona, you guys were in the lead and caught on fire, right? Exactly, yes. That was the first car. That was the very first car, yeah. And we were all three or four laps in the lead, we were just running away from it, had backed it all down. So we knew at that point that the car was going to be very successful. And then we had a big error in the fire in the pits and that left us off and that was very, very important because we did not get any points at all. Our crew was telling Shelby, don't worry about it, you know, we can let the Ferrari's get a couple laps ahead, whatever we can catch and beat him up. We'll fix the car, put it back, and Shelby was so pissed because he'd actually caused the fire. Shelby caused the fire. So all because of the fire, yeah. And as you make it chilly, what happened is he kept trying to tell the guys to refill the car and the guys that said, Carol, we already refilled the car and he's showing, God damn it, refill the car and they said, it's refilled and he said, God damn it, fill it. They filled it and the cars, the fuel came out all over the car, fire, so that's why he canceled. That's why he was so angry with the whole situation, he just canceled it. But the bad thing about it was we did not get one point then, even if we'd finished third or fourth or fifth, we would have got a couple of extra points. So at the end of the year, when they totaled up all the points from all the races that we'd run, we were just that number short, we were about four points short. And if we'd finished even third or fourth, we still would have won the championship in the first year. But these things now, in terms of stories and value and stuff like that, this thing's supposed to go for in excess of $25 million, which, you know, sounds like a lot for a car, but 34 GTOs, Ferrari, these things speed up on the GTOs, the GTOs are $75, $80, $90 million, they're only six of these, so if you're kind of looking at that way, you go, well, this is a bargain at 30 million bucks. But I know these things raised for Alan Mann, I think. Alan Mann was actually the one that won the championship for us, because-- And it's the first manufacturer's championship for Ford, right? Well, technically it went to Shelby, because his name was on the age-- But he didn't want to bring him back from Europe, right? He didn't care-- he all he wanted it was the Ford money, and they said, "Look, we have to either pay taxes for bringing them into England, and if we don't pay the taxes for bringing them into England, we're going to put them on a barge and come out and dump them in the North Sea." And they called Shelby and said, "Look, if they're going to throw the cars away, if I don't care, dump them in the North Sea." So Alan Mann, out of his own pocket, paid to have these cars. sent back the United States. - Thank God. - If it hadn't been for Ellen, man, we wouldn't have had it. - And then Michael, man, made a really shitty Ferrari movie. So, you know, we're kind of even in the man to partner. But can we walk around this thing? - Yeah, absolutely. - Now, I love this story about you finding the old German drawings from the '30s and from your days at GM and it's also great that everyone's now finally learning the story of these cars. But let's just walk around and look at. I mean, it's the same wheelbase as a cobra, right? - It's a standard cobra underneath. Standard wheelbase, everything's just a standard cobra. And now you've got to understand the standard cobra had a top speed of about 155, maybe 160 miles an hour. It's a very, very best. So, ideal for American tracks. By just putting this body on it, we were able to just touch 200 miles an hour on it. So, we went from no horsepower, gains, no engine. - Identical, just the body change on it. - Wow. - So, we got almost 20 miles an hour faster just changing the body. - Or? - Yeah. - And so, up front, you got oil cooler, I guess. Maybe diff transmission cooler. - Yep. - Are these, what are these ducks for? - This is actually, the car was very, very hot inside. One of the very first things that we learned when we ran the car, 'cause there was no studies at all. So, the car was blisteringly hot at the inside. So, this particular slot here goes down directly on the driver's feet to keep his feet cool. These two go in here and keep the cockpit a little bit cooler. But it was still very, very hot car inside, because the wheelbase was so small on it, and it was all enclosed, and there didn't no thought really for internal aerodynamics at all. All I knew with that time was exterior. So, now I spend a lot of time thinking about interior air flow. - Yeah, so the drawing, I mean, what's the story of the European aerodrawings that you remember from your GM? - Right. - Well, you have to understand when I was working at General Motors, working for Bill Mitchell on the Corvette thing. They had just put in the brand new library there at the GM styling center, and I could go down there at lunchtime, and they could have a lot of-- - One eight at this time. - I was about 20, just 20, 19 when I hired in at GM, and I was just 20 years old. - I look at my son, he was 20 when he worked at GM. You're 20, come on, what's up? - So anyway, and looking through all the books and stuff, I happened to find six sheets of memiograph paper, looking, and I looked them over, and there were copies of the German white paper with technical paper. Now I couldn't read any of the Germans stuff at all, but I could see there was a graph there, and there were some crude drawings on the shape, showing that the incredible increase in aerodynamic efficiency. So I went upstairs, and I tried to show to Mitchell, I said, "You know, this is really remarkable." You know, and he said, "Kid, that's the ugliest look "and shit I've ever seen." Now just go back and finish the Corvette, so-- - That was just-- - That was that window back then, right? - Right, yeah. So, but you remember that when you went to SHELBY? - Oh, absolutely. I mean, the numbers were so radically different. I said, "I've got to keep this." So I made little notes on what it was there, and I just put that in my pocket, and said, "When the opportunity comes up." And then finally it came up, and I tried to convince Shelby, and of course he said, "Looks at anybody would know it." If you've had that information around, since 1935, and nobody's ever used it, it's obviously worthless, and I said, "Carol, the reason is in the war, "nobody knew what was going on." And even the Germans had tried to convince the German manufacturers to build the car looking like this, and the Germans said the same thing. It's the ugliest look on the car, with this chopped-off tail on the back here. - Yeah, it was the big controversial thing on it. - It really doesn't look all that much different than the Ferrari GTO, which is supposed to be the best looking car in the world, so I don't get what the problem is. But it's this part, right? - Yeah. - And it's to fool the air, conventional wisdom, it's about a boat tail that comes all the way back. - Well, the main thing is what you're trying to do is trying to keep air attached to the body. The minute that you begin to turn the air down, more than seven degrees from horizontal, it begins to get turbulent across here. So if you do like a Ferrari and start with a high roof and go all the way back, it's turbulent all the way back. - Right. - The trick with this one is to keep the back end high and keep the air attached all the way. And that's what gives it the speed, it's keeping the air attached. - Right. - So there's a minimum amount of turbulence. Now if you go over and look at that Ferrari 917 over there, which is German designed with a big long tail on it. - Oh, that's a 907. - 917L. - Oh, that's a 917L? - Yeah. - That's Seinfeld's car. I think that's a 907L. - The big one they're showing over there. - Anyway, the Germans did the real long tail off. - Right. - Because they thought that would be the best on the speed. - Yeah, I don't even, I don't know, Bugatti does the long tail now, doesn't it? Or is that, no. What? - McLaren. - McLaren does that, whatever. I don't know why McLaren doesn't figure this out. It's in 2026. - But the Germans found out when as soon as the Pensiony had a whole little bit of car on the course, they chopped the tail off and immediately, it was a lot better handling car. - It just tended to lift. It was way too long and there was too much air on the car. It was too much of an airfoil. - So there's a great story about this car coming back from Europe and shall we want to sell it to shop workers or whatever and no one wanted it. They wanted, I don't know, $3,500 for the car or something like that. - Well, what happened first is that there was actually some testing going on up at Bonneville and-- - Oh, they brought one up to Bonneville. - We took it up to Bonneville. - Not this car. - No, it was the number one car, the very first car. - Yeah. - So they took it up to Bonneville because Goodyear was doing some tire testing up there and they said, look it. We can take this thing up there and set a bunch of records with it. - So we took the car to Bonneville and we set the 23 International FIA records with the car. - Yeah. - You know, just, this is the old race car. We just put a new motor in it, put it on some fresh tires and set all these FIA records on it. So the car came back from Bonneville and it's covered with fault and it was so rough out there because they had to run out in the dirt part of the car. And the doors were falling off, the headlights were coming out and the thing was the total trash. So Shelby came down and looked down and he said, is this it? Anybody want to buy this car? You can, I'll sell it to you, you can have it. Oh, $800. - $800, you know. - Now that, that's number one. - And we all turned it down because we knew to take that car and put it back in the shape that it would have been. - I mean, that's another 400 bucks. - You know, yeah, right. - Well, that's number one. So that car theoretically is worth more than this car and that car's at the Simeon Museum and Fillet Alpha. Outside of Fillet, I've been there. That's the car, the Fill Spectre bought and drove on the street. Record producer, then there's a whole crazy story. - Right. - Through that car as well, which is for another episode. So are you gonna be at this auction cheering this car? - I wouldn't miss it. It's gonna be, I cannot wait for that time. - This is $289, four down draft, Weber identical to the roadsters. - Identical to the roadsters. And you put the original one on a crash roadster, right? Or the body was messed up, but the chassis was okay. - Well, that was the car that got crashed at the very first service side. So I just simply took the dimensions off that chassis and then we had new chassis sent over from England so the first two chassis were number 2286 and 2287 and 2287 with the closest to the shop door. So we wheeled it in. So that became number one. - Well, Pete is the grand marshal because they're doing a Japanese mark. It's kind of the mark of the weekend for the racetrack, which is a pretty exciting because in the past, they wouldn't even let Japanese cars in to this thing with all German and Ferrari and some Americans. So they turn their nose up at the Japanese stuff, but Pete's hung around long enough to see it come full circle and now he's a grand marshal. I'm of course driving his BRE car and it brought the yellow car out there. I want you to see. - Oh, I can't wait the guys. Who's the little guy with a gray hair? - Sean brought it out. - Yeah, he did a great job of it. - He showed me a little shot of it. Sick and out of the back of your truck. I can't wait to see it. - It's a good day. It's a good day to be Pete Brock and we're gonna go to the track now and honor Pete. Is there anything we're missing? Where do you think this car is? There's six cars. Where does this land in the value? Maybe the first one is probably the most valuable. I don't know historically, - Exactly, how much history this one has? - Well, maybe each one has sort of won enough races, but actually it's the car that Dan Gernie drove most, that has the most about a win, so that car from a standpoint of historical races and Dan driving-- - Gernie, right. That's not this car. - That's not this car, no. - That's number, that's 2299, yes. Thank you, Dan. - Thank you. (laughs) So, we'll be rooting for this car, look, it's really just a testament to your abilities, the designer, and it's one thing to design something that's beautiful, but it's another thing to make it go fast, and so this is gonna be awesome. We're gonna be watching it, cheering. - All right. - And we'll see you down at the track. - Absolutely, you know, super day here. - Yeah. - Get everybody to watch the show. It's gonna be awesome. - Morgan and Morgan, well, every time one of my buddies gets hurt and accident, I always tell them higher and attorney with the economy, being the way it is, you should always try to recoup what you're owed. Morgan and Morgan is America's largest injury law firm. They have over 100 offices nationwide and more than 1,000 lawyers with over $30 billion were covered for over 500,000 clients. Morgan and Morgan has proven that they've got a track record of fighting to get you full and fair compensation. 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I'm into a tweak and monoray and you're going to work for McLaren, you got to bring out the McLaren can-am. - It's a prerequisite, it's a must with the job. - This is a crazy, crazy car. Now, I think Bruce McLaren probably died testing something like this at some point. - Yeah, so let's end it on a good note, but let's let me give you the story. So this is a 1970 M.A.D. Bruce was killed in June at Goodwood in an M.A.D. Obviously, that car was destroyed. They built this one, Ding Ernie jumped in, one, two of three races, and then he had a sponsor conflict. Golf and he was, he was Sanoco or something like that, so then they took him out of the car for Red Sin-In. And then Denny Holm was the teammate who won the championship. - So this car won a championship. Hillborn, injection, big block, Chevy, I don't know what it was. - A Chevy 8-liter, 850 horsepower. - Wow. - 4,000 pounds of torque or 10,000 pounds of torque. - What's the same way? - Not much, and I actually don't know how much it weighs, but that's a good question. All it is, you start taking all the body work off, is I'm strapped into a fuel cell with an engine. - Yeah, it's just kind of monococ, you can say what's that. - So it looks made, but this is all fiberglass stuff. This, I went faster in this than I did or the next car we'll talk about, which is a group C. This thing is just a monster and straight line. - Yeah. - The physicality of it. - Yeah, yeah, I mean, because you can light up the rear tires any time you want, so you got to really feather it coming out of the car. - And then Gurney, because he was tall. - Yeah, yeah. - Had the extra rule, who? - Yeah, that's just Gurney bubble. - Yeah. - I added one of those to my dots in 2,000 roadster that's parked in front of the drivers 2,000 in 2, 'cause it's the little extra. - Well, that's just cool. - That Gurney's as fast as me, but I'm just saying, we both have the same engineering background. So this is great, this is amazing. So you brought the K&M car, you brought the Silcut 12-cylinder Jag. - Yep. - And where is this Wap Shop, 935 Turbo? - That is not here, that is not here this weekend. So I have the Zildefarin, which is the first time I've ever driven it at a championship car. - Was that an Indie car? - Indie car. - Wow. - So I haven't looked at that. And then I'm in the Iraq race. I have my cars over there in the Iraq tent. - Uh-huh. - Which is a KLR room, one at Riverside in 1978, and a Wal-Trip one in the '80s, so I love the Iraq. - International race of champions. - Yeah, it reminds the old school-- - Here's an old school. - Yellow Submarine. - And a lot of hard-charging young bucks in that race. Because there's a lot of ringers that are professional. - Right now they're still here, they're just old bucks, but they think they're young bucks we've had on the track. - No, I mean in the race here. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's going to start. - That's cool being on the track. It's like, there's Jimmy Johnson, there's Scott Brut, there's Jeff Gordon. - Uh, Jimmy Johnson's in my race, still. - You see? - Yeah. - And you know what he's doing? - Jensen Button as well. - Got a few ringers. - I want to be a one-upper. (laughing) - So, all right, so you got this. You got silk cut, we got die rock, we got the unique car. First off, are you bringing all these parts out from Europe? - Yeah. - Load them all out. - So you got a container ship, every car out. - Yeah. - And then you got to do this. - My crew, there you go. - And then you got to do a crew. - Lagoon is very kind, they give me this garage every year, which is the Bruce McClaren Garage. I'm definitely not a coincidence. - Yeah. - And then I bring out some of the McClaren crew, my United Autosports team, which is running our World Endurance team when we go back to Le Mans. - Next year. - Oh. - Yeah, you're going back to Le Mans. - Yeah. - So, I mean, I've been from North Hollywood, California, where I hail from, and running an F1 team, which is so exotic and so European, and I don't know what could be further away from Van Aes. - From Van Aes, Sherman Aes, North Hollywood, Valley Village, Europe, McClaren F1. I mean, it is a million miles away from that upbringing you have, it just makes your story so incredible. And I know you went through, start with Indian, major way to McClaren. - First of all, how'd you even get this weekend off? Like, I don't even know. - Well, so what's nice is these two weekends, right, this is the pre-reunion last weekend. This is always Formula One summer shutdown. - Oh. - So, it's like, I've been coming, my first year was 1989, not driving, but just coming. And I don't think I missed it since, I won't miss it. It's my vacation time. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, it's such a, the track is great. The people are great, the cars are great. - The auctions are great. - You get to hang around with like-minded car people. - Car people are like more car people. - Hard car people, yes. - It's hard to explain to people who is, but I will tell you this, we will recognize who is and who isn't. We can spot them a mile away. - And this van is hard car. All right, should we look? Well, maybe just walk around the back of the car. - Yeah, let's check this out. - Well, so this one, unfortunately, I had on pole. - Yeah, I had on pole. - I was leading by eight seconds. - Eight seconds, it was kind of lap time, 126. - That's cooking. - And, three laps to go. - Drive shaft broke. - Oh, cam cam. - Yeah, coming out of the block screws. So I'm done for the weekend. I feel like Michael and Dreddy most laps led, but haven't won. 'Cause I had a break issue last weekend while leading. - Wow. - It's fast, I love it. But unfortunately, reliability. - This is a transactional car. - Yeah. - Hewlin maybe? - Yeah, I don't know. - It is a Hewlin gearbox. - How about, no, it's not a Hewlin gearbox. - Five speed? - Four speed. - Four speed, but you don't need, you got so much torque, you know. all you really use is 34th right right wow 125 as I will tell you it's fast. That's a very fast lap on this track. Wow this is cool, isn't it. That is a cool piece. Yeah that's our papaya. Yeah it's it's it's your color I mean it's perfect it's it's perfect except for the half shaft. And what's cool I just got hot wheels obviously is a thing we all play with. I just got from Don the Snake Prado. It is 1978. Where remember when we were on beach and he came over. Yeah and I was asking him about the car. Yeah closed on it this week. All this guy. I'm gonna drive that. That's a secret. There's no. Everyone got a collection and then I'm gonna go I'm gonna bring it to Europe they're gonna go what the hell is that thing. What's it cost to ship a car from Europe to here. 30 grand in the car. 30 grand is it that much? Yeah it's not even well you got to go both ways. Oh yeah they're back. Yeah yeah. I can just look after this one. So this thing we said yeah we can leave this in your shop. So this ran started life as an X-JR 7 then became an 8 which was just some different bodywork. This one like four or five races in period is Group C which was obviously the insovers. Yeah and started life as a V12 and then later went on to V6 twin turbos which were the casserole. Yeah yeah. So this is the silk kind yeah and I don't even know what silk cut is. The casserole is a famous livery silk cuts famous but the naturally aspirated you know V12 you know that's when everyone thinks of it. Yeah and it's not light. I don't know which this way but it's a lot more than that. It's all aluminum though. Yeah. I don't know that's a aluminum block. Pass I don't know. It may be a may not. Maybe not. Maybe in period. Maybe not a little bit of block. Yeah but maybe now. One thing I need to get better at is the mechanical. Everyone assumes because I'm an F1. I have people. I mean start talking about technical stuff. I look at them and go to my arrow department. Sometimes turns the arrow chart upside down to see if I recognize it. It's upside down. I mean you are getting ready. They're pretty tricky. This sounds amazing. 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Check out the check out the office in there. Wow very tidy. But the air conditioning believe it not works. Well it's not air conditioning but it's a vent. Yeah so that is always an open five speed. Five speed and it's just and it's stiff. Like this car you don't want to play around. Yeah it's funny. I was talking to Pete Brock looking at his Daytona over the good and he was showing me. I was looking at the fans you know in the front and I was like what's that for is a driver's feet. You know what's that other that said it was too hot inside the Shelby Daytona. But yeah it is a certain point. It's not all about break cooling. You got to have the guy who's applying the brakes be cool. You imagine these guys who are in 24 hours in this thing. Oh my god. I need 25 minutes and need oxygen. I am so I'm so gassed out after 25 minutes of driving at dots. A shit box. It is it is kind of nuts and any picture of these guys doing endurance racing. I think people don't race don't have a full appreciation for how physical these things are. Well you know what it is like. I mean what I'm saying is you and I are true athletes. That's what I thought to say. That's what I'm saying. You're not used to concentrating for prolonged periods of time. I try to do it for more than 10 seconds at a time but I'm not in the going. You watch TV for like 40 seconds and you look down to phone and you look bad but you don't know it's like to not look around for for you know 40 minutes at a time. So fuel on both sides. Yep. Big B12 lump cooling for the for the brakes. Everything on this is big. And this car one this one. So this would have been Group C, this one in Italy, the one in Spain, one in Japan. So this would not have run Le Mans. They had special cars strictly for Le Mans which were a little bit longer and longer. Different era. And and McLaren's coming back to Le Mans and you're coming back to what class? I have a car top class. So the top. So you're going for it. You're going for the overall win. Is that really this year? 20 seconds. So we just completed our first 30 hour test. Which went really well. So we're trying to go in the off. Nope. You can't get on the big track. Yeah sure. So we need it in Spain. And the idea of everyone's like well I've done 30 story for hours. We actually want to run till stuff breaks. Right. We want to know. And that's that's a hybrid car. Hybrid car. V6 turbo. Two turbo. Yep. Yeah. Looks looks amazing, but but not a whole lot of displacement. No. It is. It's the engine powering the motors or say engine turn in the wheels with the motors. Yep. There's no. So you're not in any curves or anything of that nature. So you've got the hybrid. So what's interesting is it runs off an electric motor up to 60 miles an hour. So you'll hear it pull out of the pit lane. And it's all electric and then and then the ice kicks in. Wow. So it's not really an engine formula. Right. And it got balance of performance. Wow. So. So you're you're goals. The triple crowd 100%. That's we won Monaco last year. We won Monaco last year. And we won the triple crowd before, but we won it in three different decades. Which is kind of three different teams. Right. Now that we got we're back to our famous papaya. We want to win it in the papaya era. And so we won last year. We've been second twice at Indies. We're going to win Indie. And then of course, Lamar before when we won we won in 74 was our first Indie. 84 was our first Monaco 95. We won on our debut in Lamar. 74 Indie. That's clear. Johnny Rutherford. Got it. Yeah. I would have guessed McLaren joined later than that. And Penske's first win was in the Penske chassis with Mark Donahue. Wow. Mark Donahue. People can am and legend and legend and Porsche and and and and Trans Am and in Camaro. So he's got his cars on here. That's bitching. All right. So now we get to Indie. Now we get to some real fast stuff. So 2001, Raynor chassis, but you were allowed to modify it. So this is Roger Penske's team. So they called it a Renski. As it was kind of delivered a Raynor and then Roger do what Roger does to it. Which was different bodywork, chrome suspension, Zelda Farron, great friend, passed away, worked for McLaren. He won the championship this in 2001. It has the speedway configuration on it. I've got the roadway, road racing rings coming. This is the sister car to what he did the fastest ever lap. 241 miles an hour. Wow, so this thing will go 241 miles an hour. hour. I'm not going to try that today. Honda V8 to V6. I'm going six. I think you're right, it's six. I don't know. Turbo, money, money, Frank. Thousand horsepower. This is John is six or eight. Six or eight. Eight. He's right. I was right. You don't hear a lot about Honda V8 to John is the one responsible for putting this together for us works for Roger and I was just getting into the Honda V8 2.6 liter. I don't know what is it. I don't know. That was small. Thousand horsepower. But 16,000 RPM. 16,000. 16,000. That was a big engine, yeah. Six, but you shift at 15, five on the same. Yeah, I was doing more like 12 today's just right. John, what else did you do to this to make it a Rensky? Body work? Yes, all of it. So the only thing Reinhard about the car is a toe. And then you, we did everything else. Make the headers. Wow, wow, wow. All legal. Of course. So a lot of heat ramping going on here. I don't know some kind of adjustable sway. Yeah, I have to take the gear bar, but I mean, I don't know what it is, sway bar, but what it is. That's adjustable in here. Yeah, I got a knob in my car, and I don't touch it. It's two, like, two stuff's going on. I'm lost. So you think you're good enough to go. I'm dialing a little understeer oversteer, although it sounds cool. So wait, when do you take this out? I just drove for the very first time, 30 minutes ago, and I'm going to take it out again tomorrow. So because this weekend is celebrating Japanese, you got the Honda and I got this directly from Roger, because this is a very special, well, you're a special driver at all. Do you own this car? I do. I do. So what kind of lap times can you do in this car? I meant this would probably do a 105. Really? Yeah, not me. It can do it. Yeah. What can you do? 115? That's cooking, man. That is fast. Fast, fast enough. And don't do the, and I need the right wing. That's my excuse. Yeah. There's not enough, like, no downforce. No, this is in the 241 setup, but what a great car. Sequential gear box. Sequential. Those are my favorite. On the, on the, no, that's all different. Oh, yeah, that's what I thought. It's down there. Yeah. Sequential. And, uh, and the clutch, no lift shift. Oh, man, chin, no lift shift. You just clutch, you get out of the pit. Clutch, get out of the pit. It's only stolen once. Wow. That's bitch. And you got your, I don't know, this is not pop off out, but this is kind of crazy, because it's kind of, kind of like a blower, weirdly. They let me, it's a plan, I guess. Yeah. And they, they, you think they're a lot bigger than they are, and then we kind of start to assemble them. Actually, the engine is not very, no, but by the time you remove all the stuff. Yeah. Absolutely incredible, Zach, friend of you, my friend, our hard car. This is a good toy store. Yeah. All right. So we'll see you out. We'll see you Saturday night. 100% we will. And we'll see you out here tomorrow. More cars. More cars. That's great. Cool. You can leave us a voicemail at 888-634-174-4, and get tickets to CBAseman at AdamCarola.com. Hello, and welcome to Pluto foe. We're all your blockbuster favorites are landing all summer law. Fantastic. The Matrix trilogy. Mean girls. Side up. I'm the king of the world. And so much more for showtimes. Press nothing. They're free. 24/7. That is so epic. Pay never. 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