Becoming a Best Ball Bro: It's Already Over?

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That's a whole team in and of itself. Team Nationwide. For your insurance and financial needs, Nationwide is on your side. Nationwide Investment Services Corporation, member FINRA, Columbus, Ohio. I'm JJ, and over the last couple of years, I've been doing everything I can to be a best ball bro. And last season, things finally fell into place. I got 40th in the DraftKings Millie Contest, taking home $20,000. Maybe I became a best ball bro, but I'm still a best ball bro. I'm still looking to learn more about this game, and I still want others to come on this ride with me. So even if you consider me a best ball bro, this could be your year. This could be the year that you officially become a best ball bro. Two shots at the title. Draft one, get one, only on DraftKings. The crown is yours. Welcome into another episode of Becoming a Best Ball Bro, the season finale of season three. I'm JJ Zacharias, and joined as always by Rich Ryan. Rich, how's it going, buddy? JJ, I was thinking of you this past weekend at our fantasy football draft, not during the draft portion, but during my first round of golf, because you always use the golf analogy when you talk about regression. And I am horrific. I have what they deemed to have a 36 handicap. And on the third hole of the first round, I get a true par on a par five, which was the third handicapped hole on the course. So I scored a double eagle. And I'll tell you what, JJ, I'm not going out tomorrow and scoring any double. Exactly. Exactly. There's some nice, some nice regression, I'm hoping that I don't get any regression in the best ball streets this year, even though it's probably inevitable. We are going to go over some of the lessons that I learned slash kind of reinforced, I'd say is a better word this season while drafting 150 milli drafts, because I am officially finished with those. And then this is on top of drafting a ton of others. I think that I'll close out around 350 to 400 drafts this year. Best ball, a lot of them fast. I did all fast recently. Some of them slow. But you know, I just want to break it all down so that we can we can talk through what happened this summer and what's to come. You know, last year, I hit well in the final got 40th as you know, we've talked about. And then on top of that, I had a good advance rate at 48 of the 150 advanced when you know, you're hoping for 25, which is which is what expectation would say because two out of 12 are advancing. So one out of six are advancing. So one out of six and 25 out of 150. So we'll see what happens this year. I feel okay. I feel like I felt more confident last year, because there were some players that I had been really heavy on that were rising in terms of CLV. And then, you know, I had last year, some of the big hits that I had within my best ball portfolio were like Kyle Manungai had a lot of Rico Dowdle, like an absurd amount of Rico Dowdle, which really helped those spiked weeks to kind of get me into the playoffs. And obviously, once you're in the playoffs, you're going to be able to do a lot of things that you didn't play in the playoffs. You're just hoping that that one of those teams can really hit. Yeah, we've had a late surge of some some weird shifting at the running back position, obviously, with whatever is going to happen with Josh Jacobs. And now, to obviously a lower extent, somebody like Jaden Blue getting cut. Yeah. And now Malik Davis stepping into what assumes to be the RB two role there in Dallas. But I feel like when you talk about things like the Manungai Dowdle of last year, that was just you attacking an ambiguous backfield that, you know, had some success this year. I feel like a lot of that has just it's just been kind of random. And I feel like there's a lot of things that are just teetering on the knife's edge right now that it's hard to predict which way it's going to go in in either direction. So it does feel like there's a lot of variants that's going to come rushing our way once the ball gets kicked next week. And this is completely anecdotal, but it did feel like the market was reacting in a much stronger way this year than it has in years past. I've experienced, you know, this is season three of the show. And I don't remember seeing some of like the very harsh reactions, like I said, to some of these like backfields, especially like I'm looking at Jonathan Brooks versus Chuba Hubbard and Jonathan Brooks ended up. It was essentially based off of him being healthy and Chuba Hubbard having an injury where he's supposed to be back in week one. Right. And Brooks ended up going like he goes in round six consistently now. And Chuba Hubbard, you get in round 11 consistently now straight up. I'm taking Jonathan Brooks. I've been on Jonathan Brooks all summer. Like he, he was part of the draft guide as a player to target right away. But in season long, that gap is so much smaller. It's not even remotely. It's like basically back to back for those guys. Whereas in best ball, you're seeing this very, very harsh reaction to it. Right. And I think that's part of why this season was a little bit more difficult for me is that it's hard to really balance how far you should lean into a storyline like that. You know, you could point to a Dajon Stribling as an example of this. Like how far do you go with that? Mike Washington with his preseason and obviously that blip of time where we didn't know how long Ashton Gentry was going to be out. There are all these, and there are all these like stories and it's been kind of hard for me and hopefully for everybody else too. Cause I don't want to be on an Island here to kind of like understand how much we should push these players. If they're not part of our portfolio already, like that's been a, that was probably the most difficult part of, of this draft season for me. Yeah. And I think to the, at the end of it, it's kind of like what we've been always been talking about sometimes reacting to your room. And in this case, in a macro sense, reacting to the market, because you're, you're right. It, that is the way the market is treated. Brooks Chuba is a bit extreme, right? Yeah. And to be clear, to be clear, I think that Brooks could absolutely live up to the market per se. I'm just saying that it's a much, it's, it's just a much stronger stance than I think the market has ever taken before and something like that. Correct. We all know Brooks is talent, right. And his profile coming in. So yeah, there's no discounting the positive range of outcomes where he just absolutely smashes. Yeah. It's just to your point, how, yeah, how violent the market has reacted to, to some of these things. And it honestly, it makes the game more fun when things like this are, it makes the game more fun. It makes it, but like another really good example of this is Jacoby lane. I, if Jacoby lane smashes this year, I'm probably a little bit screwed because I did not go heavy lane in round 20 when he was going that late. Like some guys rise very gradually, right? Some players like Pat Bryant, for instance, was a very gradual riser. And he's still to a point in my opinion, where he's very valuable and draftable and best ball. But, you know, despite the steam with Pat Bryant, he didn't rise to a point where it was just so unbelievably difficult to acquire him. Whereas when you're looking at someone like Jacoby lane, it is difficult to, to, to grab him, you know, in that, that round 13 type area, because there's a lot of ambiguity there. And I still think Rashad Bateman is going to play the wide receiver to roll to start the season. And, you know, Jacoby lane, who I thought was an okay prospect, not an elite. So I'm weighing all of these factors in and I'm like round 13, like that, that like he's in a, in a run first offense, more than likely, he's probably not going to be the wide receiver to right away. There's going to be some time. And I do think that he's one of those players that probably looks a little bit better in training camp i'm not saying definitively that like this is not going to work out for jacoby lane i'm saying that it became hard when you see a jump go from round 20 to round 13 seemingly overnight whereas some of the gradual you know build-ups is a lot easier to attack those players and something you've you've brought up in the last couple of episodes with regards to the clv which is your first main point today is does it hurt how much does it hurt right to pain you in a multi-month draft like the millie to eat some of that rise in clv right you know do we just swallow it and just be okay with it and just trust that the market is making proper macro decisions or do we just believe in what was set a couple weeks ago and not buy into this rush of clv value and yeah it's it's challenging man yeah i mean i i think that that's been probably my biggest takeaway this year and just thinking about clv on a deeper level than i did previously and for the record everyone's clv being closing line value so we're talking about players where they're drafted today versus or where you drafted them versus where they're drafted today right that's essentially what we're saying so like you know stefan diggs i was drafting him a lot in round 12 and round 13 and now he's a round seven eight type player and so obviously that's good closing line value because you got a four or five round discount on stefan diggs earlier this off season than where he's going right now so the teams that are drafting diggs back then have an eighth round player that they got in the 12th round that would imply that those teams are better on paper than than the other teams that are drafting now the problem with that thinking in the way that i've there's two reasons number one there are so many iterations with how things can go down in a single best ball lineup and single fantasy football season that to assume that the highest clv teams are going to advance i think is a little bit foolish given the variance that is involved in fantasy football if the guy that you get is the guy that is going to be good then that's it that's all that matters right like if it doesn't matter right doesn't matter where kyle pitts was drafted last year he smashed when it mattered right exactly if you reached for kyle pitts last year by two rounds and then you got him in that what week 15 game or week 16 game whatever it was and you had him there or derrick henry right like you were able to advance like my lineup had derrick henry into the final and then he was the one that you needed to smash so like there's that side of it that i think is very very important to wrap your head around but then the look i'm not saying that clv is bad clv is good i've never done full-blown research on it because i don't have the data to do so i would imagine that if you know mike leone out there uh who does work for etr establish the run i think he's done this some of this research and has shown that you know better clv value like teams and adp value does help you in the best ball game like you want to have those values so i'm not dismissing it right but the other piece of this with clv is the fact that when you're getting that clv it's usually going to come earlier in the offseason right because we're talking about closing line value meaning the end of the offseason the end of we're ready for the season to start when you're drafting in in may and june you have incomplete information and so yes i'm getting really good stefan digs teams but guess what i was drafting some ricky pearsall you know and we don't have that i mean now we know that that ricky pearsall is not playing this year so the team if i had a pearsall digs team back in may or june or something where i got digs in round 13 and pearsall in round 9 or 10 then all of a sudden the team that drafts digs in round 8 actually is at an advantage to that other team more than likely you know i'm not doing i'm just doing the quick math in my head about how that would look but i would imagine that the team with digs without that dead player on the team is at some sort of an advantage so i'm trying to not overstate clv it's fun to look at you know i i went uh did the live stream my final milli draft and at the end of it i pulled up a roster that i could i could pull up right now if you guys are curious but it's a roster of my best clv team this year and i look at it and i'm like yeah this team is sick i love it and i wish that all my teams looked like that but realistically the chance that this is the team that wins me you know two million dollars i i i think is pretty slim right or or does even the best of any of my team so i'll just read you the team i just pulled it up okay it's jayden daniels and jaylen hertz actually both of them had had uh unfavorable clvs because i got jayden daniels at 67 overall at the six seven so uh he goes later than that but then yeah for audio listeners rich the six seven motion that no one does anymore but we're dads so at running back i got chris mccaffrey and hampton at pick 19 which is somewhat a little bit of a of a gain blake quorum at 102 which is a gain jacory krosky merit at 126 chris rodriguez at 150 and then george halani at 235 so this was a this is an early july draft it's july 5th is when i drafted this and then at wide receiver zay flowers terry mclaurin davante adams mckay lemon also uh had had actually pretty bad clv on this team but then i had stefan diggs so again zay flowers terry mclaurin davante adams mckay lemon stefan diggs nailed the stack too so i nailed the stack this is before we knew i think yeah how do it been before we knew digs being in washington so i had mclaurin and digs with jayden daniels don tavian wicks is on this team i was drafting a lot of wicks whenever he was cheaper days on stribling is on this team at 187 overall take one thornton and then kashon booty uh at in the night at the 1906 is when i got booty and then at tight end all three of the guys are at discounts at 1007 juwan johnson at the 1407 and terence ferguson at the 1706 so that team on paper right now staring at it i love that team you know take one thornton is maybe somewhat iffy but that's the only player on that team that looks like they're in a worse situation now than when i drafted the team essentially right stribling stribling going 100 picks later for those yeah yeah stribling in this case is going 100 picks later and so i stare at that team and i'm like yeah this team is awesome i like it but who knows how that's gonna go down like we don't know for sure that this is going to be a really good team i could track it this year and see and i would almost guarantee you that it's doesn't even advance you know like the odds are not in its favor to advance so i do think that i've taken a step back and thought about clv a little bit differently because i think the best ball analyst and the best ball industry and market and the way people communicate about best ball i think that it's way different than the way people communicate about best ball and the way people it's way too clv focused it's way too much you know immediately when someone gets injured people are sharing screenshots of their exposure which is why i sent that tweet out uh earlier this week when the josh jacobs ruling came out and i said wow not a single best ball drafter is overweight on josh jacobs crazy you know because when that stuff goes down no one is tweeting that they have 18 josh jacobs they're like oh i got 35 marshall lloyd and i haven't drafted josh jacobs once it's like okay congratulations you know like we like i just don't think it's that big of a deal i mean that kind of thing obviously is but i mean that's where people's brains go and they think about clv in that way obviously in a really really harsh situation like ricky pierce all going down josh jacobs being on the commissioner exempt list like that stuff matters but that's the way that the best ball industry sort of like thinks about things i think it's a little bit overstated yeah i think to me it comes down to yes we should be hunting what we perceive to be closing value down the line you did so very well especially with the two veteran receivers this is something we're looking at with contingent upside running backs whose value could change throughout the summer via coaching or injury but on the flip side i think we do just need to not be so hesitant to continue to buy these players while they steam up and of course some may steam up to a spot that is not comfortable in taking them that's fair well but we i think that's the way it is where people might be getting themselves in trouble is just being completely stubborn and saying like the frequency with which i'm taking this player now that they've steamed up because i want to protect uh whatever clv bags i have i'm not going to take them and i think that's where we start to get into a lot of trouble yeah i had a hard time with that in a way with jonathan brooks because i had a lot of jonathan brooks early on and the thing that i had to remind myself is that your combinations also are going to be going to look a lot different you know like one thing that i want to be better at next year is drafting like i get into certain players over a period of time like there was a two or three week window where i was so into ashton genti this summer like so into him and that's you know i mean i'll talk about him in a second but i was so into ashton genti i was taking him around where you know like james cook is and jonathan taylor is now i wasn't really thinking twice and i regretted that especially not it has nothing to do with the because when you then become that overweight on certain players you're then tempted to not draft them later on in the off season when you're not drafting them later on in the off season you're getting you're just drafting the same type of roster over and over again at certain pockets of the sea of the of the summer right jonathan brooks is very similar there where i got a lot of good clv with jonathan brooks and admittedly i didn't draft him that much in round six if at all you know where where he was and ended up being steamed up i think that's a probably going to end up being a mistake in the end you know like to think about who i would be drafting him with and the the abundance of new information and more accurate information i have now versus when i was drafted jonathan brooks back in may this is where and to bring a poker aspect into this like if you have similar guys in a tier and honestly like the time of day is like the reason why you make a decision as to one or two or three guys that are valued similarly randomizing might be the way to go right and just letting letting variance take take its course right like taking yourself completely away from the decision this happens a lot in poker where you get into a spot and a solver will tell you certain frequencies you should raise certain frequencies you should call etc and in live poker and when people are playing online they will literally look at a clock literally look at a clock and split it into thirds or something and say if it's in this third i'm going to make this decision yeah like this might sound crazy to some people listening or watching but when you have players graded so similarly that the decision is quite literally like whatever pops into your brain like sometimes just randomizing might be the way to go yeah no i i think it is like i it's something that i i need to think about next year uh in more detail while i'm drafting because i i also think that like there's a in a lore of when you're drafting in may and june to sort of like stake a claim and try to obtain some of that clv the ashen genti thing is just silly though because it's not like he was ever going to rise any more than than where he was going you know but there's some players where that would be the case where you were able you would be able to you know gain some of that value by drafting them a lot early on it's just a lot easier to do that in the later rounds than it is in the in the early rounds of drafts yeah to me this exercise feels like it's more relevant towards the end of this first round and through the second round where values are just so smushed together that whatever personal opinion you've developed in that time period yeah you're just going to decide to pick one player over another but they're so tightly valued that what really is the difference between these players and the other thing too that i ran into is that doing 150 drafts if i look at my distribution of like where i was getting picks i got a ton of later round picks like you know let's say 107 onward in the early parts of of the milli you know in in may and june and then i started getting front half ones and when i got the front half ones my stances were changing like i liked kenneth walker when he signed for when he signed in kansas city did the free agent episode on it you know threw out some of the success rate stats whatever you know i was very bullish on kenneth walker and then there was a period of time in may where i'm like man people are even more bullish than i am and then i did a little bit more research in like late june or into early july and i'm like oh wow i really like kenneth walker but by the time that i liked him again it was at a point where i wasn't getting those back half of the first round picks as much and so you know i'm still overweight on walker but i wish i was even more you know i'm not like eleven percent i wish i was like thirteen percent you know it's just those small things really happen throughout the summer that i want to be more cognizant of you know as i'm as i'm drafting next year i want to also talk about irrational drafting there was that one clip of me with the tyler shuck stack you know i had that new orleans stack and there was this guy who this person you know could be a girl as well who was drafting at the turn or at least on the other side of the board and reached a pretty decent bit to get tyler shuck despite already having unstacked i think trevor lawrence and matthew stafford and like i put on a little bit of a show for it admittedly you know i'm doing a live stream content yeah i got over the board while you were making content right people people like took it seriously like oh man you're taking this way too seriously this is what's wrong with yeah you're just an old yeah yeah you're just an old man yelling at people just having fun playing fantasy i'm like guys this isn't that serious it was just for fun i like to do that that's my personality i do it all the time with my friends just go over the top and have fun with it right and so uh in the end realistically when i look at people being what i think is irrational during best ball drafts and taking you know naked matthew stafford when there's only terrence ferguson basically or one of the tight ends late to stack with him you know you didn't get hukunakua you didn't get davante adams and you're drafting matthew stafford in the seventh round ahead of adp without either of those wide receivers that to me is a rational drafting in best ball it's just not rational with that being said this is what adam levitan really focused on last year when i talked to him on the show and i think is really important there was like a joe burrow versus jalen hertz discussion that was often going on in like the round five round six area and levitan made the point that you shouldn't be mad at those people because they're irrational which means you're facing easier competition and so realistically you go from a u-verse 11 to a u-verse 10 to a u-verse 9 and you have better odds of advancing as long as you can recover from that person taking that player you know and i i think that if you listen to this show if you draft a lot of best ball teams if you're consuming other best ball content wherever right you're going to be better than the average player at reacting to things going down in drafts because immediately your brain can say oh yeah i didn't get tyler shuck but i can get malik willis and have a back stack with like caleb douglas or chris bell or something and then all of a sudden i still have a decent stack and i'm going to be better than the average player at reacting to a stack that has a lot of upside so that's something i've i've really tried to focus on as well as just you know if if people are irrational and they're stealing your stacks first off don't expect teams to not steal your stacks if you're just like pushing it that's the one thing that does annoy me is when people are like oh i had i took jamar chase 103 and joe burrow was sniped from me one pick before i was picking the sixth round it's like dude you're getting them past adp you know that's that's different than someone taking burrow in round three after you got jamar chase in round one right overall those drafters if someone's taking joe burrow in round three that's more than likely going to end up being a dead team more than likely of course crazy things can happen but let's embrace the fact that you're you're facing easier competition mark arceal said it last week too when it comes to stacking and expectations game theory optimal state can only be met if everybody's playing optimal and i promise you being in these rooms ain't everybody playing optimal they're definitely not they're definitely not i also want to talk about making assumptions about player situations josh jacobs you know that that was kind of up in the air and then there's certain parts of the summer where you're like oh i can draft him confidently or now obviously we can't draft him confidently there was even that six hour window where i'd i kind of wish i did fire off a take during the the mike washington ashton denty you know denty being being sidelined and you know the prayer circle stuff and then you know you're like oh i'm not going to draft mike washington and i ended up being an ankle sprain but i do think that from a game theory perspective if your initial reaction was to say i'm going to draft mike washington in round six or in round five or something like that when we had no idea as to to when denty or like like what was going on with denty i think that's just bad game theory in a contest where you know you're you're looking for for upside you're looking for first you know you getting mike washington in round five versus or let's just say round seven you know you getting him there i think it's different once you get into like round nine round ten because there's a different opportunity cost and such you getting mike washington in round seven in that case versus his adp settling in round six maybe round five let's just say let's just be super optimistic about washington and how the market viewed him let's say that if denty were out for the year he'd settle in as a round five pick okay which i think is is pretty bullish on on mike washington and you got him in round seven you can't tell me that that value gain is greater than the chance that denty is okay while drafting denty in the ninth round you know like very clearly the denty side is going to be the morph and i'm saying this all in hindsight i understand but i do think that that's part of the way that we should be thinking about this stuff and i made the mistake with this with malik neighbors i 100 made the mistake with this where i said to myself i think he's gonna end up on pup because things are trending this way and this is just the way that things go when you get that second operation etc and so i was very underweight through like 80 drafts with malik neighbors and he was going at the end of round four often and i'm passing on him for luther burden or whomever right and that was a mistake because now he's a round two guy i'd rather have malik neighbors than luther burden and so i'm not saying this like you know sitting all high and mighty like i know exactly how to react and how to do this but i do think that denty is going to be i want to take a little bit more time to be thoughtful in how i'm making those decisions this is one of the reasons why you do the prospect guide because at the end of the day talent matters how many times and we'll see this in redraft a running back's gonna get hurt and everyone's gonna be saying wheels up for the backup he's in there he's just going to assume the workload at the same quality as the starter and we've just seen this time and time and time again when that incident happened ashton gentry's range of outcomes widened to increase to to include some really bad outcomes right but not knowing that he was for sure out his high range outcomes were still in there somewhere right mike washington's range of outcomes kind of shifted down the the paradigm a little bit but it's not like they suddenly widened to the point that mike washington had these ceiling outcomes that could in any way justify the types of prices we're talking about like I clicked his name and in a couple slows in like the late ninth into the tenth round during that time that was the only that was the only exposure i was able during that six hour period that i was able to do i couldn't fire up a draft i was with the kids and that was the only exposure i could get was a couple ninth round into 10th round picks because i figured even if this genti thing isn't that big of a deal and you know i didn't think he was going to play week one like no matter what just based on it but you know now we're it's like 50 50 it sounds like but regardless washington would probably settle in as like a 11th to 13th round pick even if ashton genti were like moderately okay and then obviously there's the upside of okay if genti's out of out for the season and then on top of that i just needed more mike 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like accept the fact that and this is not really a learning for me this year but but i leaned into it more this year so i benefited from it more this year the market will always move after a transaction actually occurs okay it started with aj brown this summer go to the patriots yeah yeah aj brown was a was a mid third round pick to start the the off season and then he went to the patriots and you get him in the mid second round right so he went that's a huge huge jump in overall value and then you had keenan allen who i was getting in the 20th round who ended up you know signing to now i will say i think keenan allen stefan digs debo samuel probably couldn't have found a better spot for those three guys just in general you know so i think that that has to you know come into consideration but even if keenan allen went to like an if you're spotty be a 15th round pick or a 16th round pick you'd still gain some clv stefan digs you'd still gain some clv even if he didn't go to washington which i think is one of the better spots that he could have gone to and debo samuel you know obviously he hit the best spot for him but you know he's going to rise in adp so these are good situations but when these players actually sign somewhere they do go up in price and the same thing happened last year i had a lot of discussions on the on the live streams when jordan addison was iffy about the suspension we didn't know how long he was going to be out for like when it was going to drop or whatever and i waited to draft addison last year until after the suspension actually like dropped and hit and his adp fell you know like it dropped because the market just reacts to actual news so i think we saw it a little bit with like the market was kind of factoring in the josh jacobs stuff because that was kind of lingering a little bit but most of the time when these players are free agents and we know they're going to move somewhere we should act on it before they actually move somewhere believe it or not people there are folks out there who don't eat sleep and breathe all of this yeah and don't form an opinion until the chef notification hits their phone that something happened yes yes exactly exactly all right let's get into the this is what you know people in the chat today during the live stream we're asking about exposures so i'll just walk through them i got the top guys at each position some players that i'm nervous could really burn me this year and then some best clv type stuff so i'll start with quarterback and rich i'm excited to just hear your reaction to these because we talked about players obviously throughout the summer but i i you know seeing the actual exposure next to their name might you know invoke some sort of response from you so i'm curious to hear what you think so at quarterback this is only the millie okay this is only the millie but my top roster quarterback is baker mayfield did we say baker mayfield's name once on this can we somebody claude get on this go through every minute of the podcast this summer this is just a really good example of why of how best ball works is that you're not really drafting the quarterback you're drafting the stack right and i'll get to this in a second as to why baker is the top quarterback but baker at 16 jalen hurts at 15 percent jackson dart at 15 and that scares the living crap out of me admittedly i'm very scared but i'm shooting for upside a little bit here i have three quarterback builds probably in like 95 of my rosters and so my thought process with jackson dart was there were a few things happening number one i think the upside is there for him to hit i think the downside is there but the upside is there also we saw it last year he has really good rushing numbers if they if they continue to allow him to run the way that he did last year he can certainly live up to to adp if fantasy football but the other reason why i was drafting a lot of jackson dart is because there's a three quarterback build and oftentimes when you were in that like round 10 range where there weren't a lot of players that you were super super excited about i would just click jackson dart as a backstack quarterback because you could get you know malachi fields if you wanted to isaiah likely like there were non-malik neighbors players that you could stack with jackson dart so that's why i have jackson dart at 15 right now i wish it was more like 12 probably to be a little bit more cautious about the downside risk but i think he's gonna play throughout the season like i don't think there's like much risk of i mean there's injury risk but there's not risk of like him being benched or something like that so i say that we'll we'll clip this if it happens like week 11 or something like that just to show how big of a moron i am my number four i was kind of shocked by it's drake may i'm not even like high on like super super high because i think there's gonna be a little bit of regression but i think this is a combination of i have a decent amount of aj brown i was drafting drake may with aj brown even before that trade went down and then also it's just that pocket of quarterbacks and i'll get the falling quarterback and oftentimes just ended up being drake may and that like round six to seven range and then unsurprisingly my number five is malik willis at 14 so those are the only guys above 14 and they're 14 to 16 no major quarterback is under four percent that's just the way it works in best balls that you're drafting these players based on your wide receivers not based on them necessarily so the jackson dart thing he's down two rounds i know i didn't get i didn't get good clv on jackson dart and i'll think in the end but that's it's so odd to me because i think that's just people with a poor taste in their mouth about coaching him getting sacked once and harbaugh yeah i think it's coaching staff yeah but i don't i think when you're talking about somebody like dart who is likely going to generate the most power in the game i think it's going to be a lot of people who are going to be able to generate the most power in the game and i think it's going to be a lot of people who are going to be able to generate the most power in the game and i think it's going to be a lot of generate points with his athleticism and mobility i think we're counting on that when we take him those types of players are kind of agnostic to an extent yeah of of coaching and sometimes even things like offensive line or situation because being athletic you can still scramble and run and and score points so i don't know in this territory of jordan love and kyler murray like i think i think that is still a fine enough click i do love love i think the thing is that like you have to have like it's easier to get a player like jackson dart when there's only one partner that are that people are really going to stack him with in the early rounds whereas with brock purdy you add you know people like forcing it with kiddo a little bit and then mike evans obviously earlier christian mccaffrey even you could stack with and then obviously towards the end it became design stripling or dejan i keep saying dejan it's definitely dejan stripling you have you have dejan stripling that's going there too and so like i'm higher you know i think i'm at like 12 13 percent purdy but yeah i mean like that's that's why jackson dart is where he is and malik willis to an extent too willis is a very easy click as a qb3 or qb2 knowing that you're going to get you know a daniel jones or something as your qb3 or aaron rogers or whomever because you know that you don't really need to even stack him i mean he could get it done just with his legs alone so that's where the quarterback stuff is i guess i'm going to go straight to the quarterback stuff and then i'm going to go straight to the quarterback stuff and then i'm going to go straight to wide receiver really quick because it'll make sense as to why the quarterbacks look the way they do so at wide receiver keenan allen is my number one wide receiver actually number one player in the milli at 20 he's the only one over 20 he's at 21 percent um did you guys go out and celebrate on uh on saturday night oh my gosh my gosh yes uh by the way if anyone's like thinking about drinking and driving don't please don't it's especially if you're an athlete that goes with that thing yeah i mean well not even especially just don't do it please don't do it bikini allen 21 percent trey harris is my second wide receiver at 19 which is a play on the chargers offense and just getting a cheap piece in that offense luther burden at 18 that's not going to surprise anybody and here's why the baker exposure is as high as it is because i have chris godwin at 17 good clv on chris godwin too i'll get to that in a little bit and then i also have uh at 15 zay flowers pat bryant stefan diggs and then at 14 i have rashid shaheed don tavian wicks and parker washington so those are my high exposed wide receivers there's actually some pretty good clv with those guys especially you know i'll get to that in a little bit so that's wide receiver any any any surprises for you on the wide receiver list rich no based on our discussions everything looks to be on par for i'm interested in in one player in parker washington anecdotally i know you don't have the data in front of you and might be a challenge to answer but anecdotally do you think you were drafting most of washington before his meteoric rise or do you think it was throughout the summer more evenly well i can tell you uh when i get to the best clv portion uh parker washington is on that list he's number five on that list that i have listed so i'm at 14 exposure my average pick for parker washington was 60th overall and right now he's 49th overall so i was getting him at the at the five six turn pretty consistently i mean that's nice yeah so like a lot of sixth round parker washington you know late fifth if it's a wide receiver heavy draft and then now he goes to the four or five turns so i was getting him before the rise really happened but i still have drafted him a couple times even in the in the early 50s you know just because i think he's he's a good pick the parker washington thing has has the two i've done two quote-unquote hometown drafts redrafts and parker washington's getting drafted people like don't think you're gonna walk into your drafts and and have parker washington follow you it's wild because there's like everyone has a different parker washington experience and i look at adp and like it's still very reasonable where he goes you know like where he's listed on these platforms so i have to continue to force the issue like draft parker washington based on these numbers and it gets a little you know this is why next year with the draft guy we're doing things a lot differently it's going to be a lot more consumable from the standpoint of like players to target and stuff like that but it makes it really hard to even put up a list of players to target because adp is just so different with every draft and with every platform all right running back number one jonah coleman at 17 i got a lot of jonah cole most of the jonah coleman is from earlier this offseason so i again i wish i was drafting him a little bit more later but i kept getting to that point in the draft and being like i don't want to you know i wanted to get exposure to these other guys and i already have enough jonah coleman ended up at 17 second one is tajay spears at 15 the reason for that is i think there's going to be more of a split in the tennessee backfield and he's a pass catcher i think they'll deploy him as a pass and they're going to probably be a bad team number three no surprise remandre stevenson at 14 number four bad clv but ashton genti at 13 that's kind of scary that's why i was i was borderline puking whenever ashton genti was hurt a couple weeks ago jaylen warren at 13 also chase brown at 13 and kenny gainwell at 13 because i think that he's going to play some role be a pass catcher full ppr platform you know it's a solid solid enough pick i don't have like high hopes for gainwell but i think that he's going to play some role but i do think you can catch a lot of passes and then the last one is james cook at 12 so i made a stance that i'm drafting more i think i ended up with six percent jonathan taylor so i have more james cook than jonathan taylor i just picked him over taylor for the most part in you know that 109 range or wherever so i have 12 james cook i'm hoping for that boost in receiving production gainwell continuing with the the bucks correlation so again yes we talked about this all summer like sometimes i'm not sure if i'm going to be able to win this game but i'm going to be able to win this game sometimes the people that we select is just because of the way the roster is constructed and and thus the the other players are going to be rising as well exactly and then at tight end i feel pretty good about the tight end room actually uh terrence ferguson at 19 kenyan sadiq at 17 evan ingram who they cut justin joe lee this past week which i think is actually a pretty big deal for evan ingram to be their primary pass catcher brand new like not brand new offense but they have a you know new coordinator and such so i think it's going to be a pretty big deal for they're going to be a pretty big deal for evan ingram and such so i think it's going to be a pretty big deal for kate otten at 13 looks like i need the bucks offense to be good this year and then the last one who i think has been one of the best values in best ball is michael mayer where you know you're going to get a lot of 12 personnel in vegas they don't have good pass catchers uh and obviously there's contingent upside as well for mayor with brock bowers going down mayor could just have some spiked weeks himself i think so i have 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some players who might burn me running back i have two percent tony pollard which is not a surprise anyone who's listened to my content this summer three percent jk dobbins which i think dobbins actually a better and best ball type player but i kind of want to just take a stand and say you know i i think that rj harvey and jonah coleman are better clicks technically uh travion henderson not really a big surprise if i'm at 14 percent remandre stevenson i have 4.7 percent travion henderson and i was i was scared with the the henderson stuff but then i was able to click his name a chan at five percent that's that's very scary very scary unbelievably scary but five the five percent blanket feels okay though you know like it wasn't a full fade at all for h and i got him when he was falling to the later parts of the second round instead of having to take him you know in the early parts of the second round so like a five percent blanket on a player that i i do have you know that i am lower on than like the season-long adp market feels okay and then bucky irving i'm only at five percent as well not surprising with the kenneth gainwell stuff i think gainwell is a better value than bucky but i have bought more and more into bucky irving over the last month or so uh you know i put him in that same tier now with like bashal tootin david montgomery like i think he belongs in that tier he's at the bottom more towards the bottom of that tier but i do have bucky irving at five percent he could screw me too it's kind of funny because that's a buccaneer and i have clearly a lot of i think i'm overweight in a bucca too so i have baker godwin otten you know i have mcmillan i know i have uh you know uh i've drafted him ted hurst even has dart throws but bucky's the one that i've been underweight on which is definitely a little bit scary we need tail outcomes to have success in this thing and i like the fact that there's correlation with who you're overweight on and who you're underweight on right you didn't split the difference like if you have a stance on somebody it's like hubbard and dowdle it's like hubbard and dowdle last year remember in this very show i was at like 13 14 percent dowdle and like one percent chuba hub two percent chuba hubbard and yeah i mean like that was a stand that i took even it's not even like a conscious stand that you're making oftentimes right it's just this is the way that the drafts are falling and i've liked gainwell's value because i think he's going to be involved and he's a pass catcher he's going to give you a nice floor especially for like a hero rb build if you're in like gibbs bijan range and you're at that like eight nine turn and gainwell's there i loved getting gainwell there and then like the bucky stuff there's just a lot of good wide receivers in that range, like so many good wide receivers so it was hard for me to draft him a lot but i did get bucky at times at like the late fifth into the end of the sixth round there's only two wide receivers i'm really concerned about because my wide receiver exposure is a little bit flatter and because i liked that range so much in that round four five area i'm only at three percent dj more which is scary very scary and i'm only at five percent justin jefferson so i decided to get a little bit more cd lamb and i don't know i mean obviously justin jefferson can go off i have him on some season-long teams where he's fallen a bit i'm still a little bit concerned about kyler's fit in this offense and what that might look like it's not me sitting here saying don't draft justin jefferson it's not even me saying don't draft dj more than much like i have him as a an avoid in the draft guy but it's a confidence level of one which is basically like i have guys in his tier or he's in the same tier as these guys i just have him towards the bottom of that tier is what that that really means so the dj more thing is was difficult for me because he would always get boosted up in adp with josh allen because of josh allen and i've noticed that in season-long drafts i've actually drafted dj more a few times because you're not getting that same stacking you know force if you will in a regular season-long draft as you are in best ball yeah the cd lamb and and jettis sit right there in that massive running back run so when you take one of those two players there you are deciding to go against the grain with the running back run i think that click is a lot easier for cd because the offensive environment and the quarterback right and it you're taking a leap if you you take jettis i mean we love the player we absolutely do and we're confident that kevin o'connell has done some good stuff but i think it is much more of a risk than cd so i i understand that you're not going to be able to do that but i think it is much more a risk than jettis thing but he is he's just such a tremendous player that yeah yeah he's he's probably the most right to be on this list of who you're scared yes i'm scared out of my mind about having five percent justin jefferson the other thing too is that that back half of the first over the last couple of weeks has become easier to click like even on today's stream i took cd lamb it's been easier because they're like breeze hall falls to the fourth consistently now or i got giovante on that team at the at the end of the third just to get some i needed a little bit more exposure to giovante and i had cd lamb so like it became a little bit easier in a best ball environment to do that it's way harder in a regular season long environment to not go rbrb when you're in the back half of the first round it's way way harder because once you get into round three you're not going to have a choice at running back and there's going to be very good wide receivers to choose from there so keep that in mind tight end three percent trey mcbride that's scary i love this though i love this i went into the summer i think the market is is wrong and i think that bowers i think there should be a discernible difference between bowers and mcbride yes and just the more the summer continued and the more negative things came out of arizona i mean i've seen nate hackett firsthand i just started getting more and more worried about trey mcbride and i this is a stand that i like i especially because we talked about the tight end meta and the ability to get a bunch of guys late and just have a deep tight end room with a bunch of upside with a bunch of athletic guys i think if you're going to bite the bullet bowers is the elite guy and i think i i think leaning into fading trey mcbride is absolutely the right way yeah and i i had i think i have 11 percent bowers which feels good because tight end to me like tight end is like the guy needs to go absolutely nuclear to be worthwhile and in a best ball environment and so i wanted to be overweight on bowers because i think there's a chance that he does do that this year but they're the opportunity cost is not insignificant in that range of drafts that i didn't want to be up to like the 15 16 range if you are more power to you i get it because i i understand the upside with bowers but i just wanted to play more of like the this is what fantasy football is kind of game where you're only starting one tight end you know et cetera et cetera so i'm overweight on bowers but i'm not massively overweight on bowers i'm at like 11 which is is kind of a decent bit overweight for me in the way that i handle my portfolio but still and then colson loveland i'm at like nine percent so i'm a little bit overweight tyler warren i think i'm at like eight or nine percent as well it was just mcbride i just i couldn't make the click all the things i've talked about with him were you know he he had 120 more routes than any other tight end last year i talked about this in the bold predictions episode but his his fantasy points per route run last year was 0.46 with marvin harrison jr on the field it was 0.41 so it did drop a little bit so you're taking away like there's going to be regression in terms of raw routes run and then there's also going to be regression in terms of just the the sheer i mean zone targets and all but one tight end last year since 2016 like he's he's not going to score as many touchdowns which means his ppr points per game per route run is going to lower and if you're going to run fewer routes it all compounds to potentially being like four fewer ppr points per game year over year and that scares me with trey mcbride it's so funny talking about trey mcbride in that respect too because he was always the guy yeah who was crushing it efficiently and not getting in the end zone and then just has this insane spike touchdowns yeah and then the other guy's harold fannin at three percent and you know i love his mom but and i love him i love him too i love harold fannin but i do worry about obviously offensive situation new coordinator i think they're going to be tight end friendly but regardless there's more competition on that team like fannin was crushing towards the end of last year because he was seeing a 30 31 target share in that offense i just don't think that's going to happen again and admittedly i was you know like waiting around waiting around and a half throughout the summer i know that their adps have converged a little bit more and just getting uh dalton kincaid instead of harold fannin like i think kincaid has a very similar upside case if not a better upside case and so i just went that direction if i'm if i was going to draft a tight end in that range it was kincaid or even kittle like i was going after kittle at a lower cost than fannin but fannin's adp has fallen a little bit over the last couple weeks i think more anecdotally so we we didn't see josh allen on the players who could burn me list so i'm assuming catching up on josh allen the domino of that was also picking picking some more dalton kincaid as well yeah i had a lot of kincaid i had a lot of kincaid in general um because i just like his like i have 10 kincaid this year josh allen i ended up getting 5.3 which nice i think feels feels pretty good for an early round quarterback and and and how that looks you know again i wish i had more dj more but i had a hard time when i drafted josh allen clicking dj because i would i would only get josh allen when he fell to the late third round and then i had a really hard time drafting dj more at the beginning of that wide receiver tier when there are so many good wide receivers that i just i just straight up like more um like jaylen waddle or even like a tetero mcmillan or or whomever and so uh that was the reason why it was just harder for me to get to more with those stacks you know do i wish it was more even like five percent five yeah sure instead of like the three percent more but you know i'm underweight on both but i am overweight on dalton kincaid overall all right let's talk about your biggest clv winners so i have eight guys that i want to talk through from a clv perspective again in closing line value these are the players that when i drafted them they were being drafted way later than where they're being drafted right now and i'll tell you this is not a like an aggregate of like overall value gained by these guys in terms of how i drafted them versus where they're drafted now and i'll tell you my exposure to each of these guys they're all pretty high exposure except for dajon stribling i got on average at 156 overall he's 84 currently and i have him at seven percent that's a regret of mine i wish i was not as stupid as i was back in may and june and i was gobbling him up a little bit more in that like final round obviously i have my you know my my the team that i read off earlier has dajon stripling so it's not like i wasn't drafting him but i do wish i was on the draft but i do wish i was on the draft because i have a lot of players that i want to be able to play against do wish i was obviously overweight on dajon tripling right now and i'm not um i'm a little bit below market that scares me don't love that could have easily put him on the wide receiver list but i did get really good clv with him so i do think that evens out a little bit here where the seven percent stripling at 156 overall is probably better than an 8.3 percent stripling at an 84 overall yeah what's better the seven percent combos you have or the whatever 10 to 12 percent 15 percent combo is probably better than an 8.3 percent stripling at an 84 overall right marshawn lloyd i have 10 percent lloyd and that is at an average pick of 191 he's at 110 now and he's rising at the moment so i was gonna say that's gonna we're gonna be sub 100 yeah tomorrow yes that's uh so that's good that's good clv at 10 stephan diggs i'm at 15 like i said earlier i had an average pick for digs at 129 he goes 85th overall keenan allen his average pick right now is 153 i got him on average at 219 and he's rising at 129 so that's good so that's good so that's good and i have 21 percent of key if keenan allen is like a wide receiver three in fantasy it's going to be a beautiful thing i don't think it's going to happen but it'll be beautiful uh parker washington i talked about this earlier average pick 60th he's now at 49 as an adp and i have 14 percent parker washington jaylen waddle guy that i've been very into this summer 34 is his adp i got him on average at 44 and i have 12 jaylen waddle remandre stevenson i average a 77 overall pick for remandre stevenson i have 12 jaylen waddle and i have 12 jaylen waddle and i have 12 jaylen when he goes 64th overall now i have 14 remandre and then chris godwin 82 overall on average he's at 69 now and i have 17 Chris Godwin so I tell people to rate my drafts rich at the end of every draft on the live stream out of 10 when you look at this portfolio not knowing anything else just knowing that I'm hopefully structurally drafting well right that I'm not that I'm that I'm allocating resources properly per position what would you rate this out of 10 this this portfolio feels like a solid like 8.3 you know I'll take it there's there's probably some people out there that went nuts with like stripling for example and we're we're all about them that that might have some some minor advantages but overall like I'm not seeing I feel like there were some landmines some real landmines uh in previous years in the the overweight section where early on in the process there were you know and maybe this is playing into the current meta where there were some running back specifically that we're just taking chances on in in early summer hoping things break our way and I think that there might have been more of a concentration on early to mid-round running backs such that like I'm not seeing jade and blue as one of your most no owned running backs which is which is a realistic outcome for some people my jade and blue exposure is under four percent in the millie which is great because you know I'm not seeing jade and blue as one of your most owned running backs which is which is he's he's drafted in pretty much every draft and not not anymore obviously but I I'm still seeing him get drafted because of of where his adp is sitting but yeah like I feel good about some of that stuff you know like the the guys who didn't make teams or like you know but there are some players where I do wish I had more like I and I loved emmet johnson coming out like I wish I had more I'm only at like four or five percent emmet johnson because there was so much up in the air and I don't want to lock into a rookie take because it's very easy to inflate rookie take production you know for these guys but like I wish I was at like six seven percent emmet johnson because I think he's going to be the rb2 should have leaned into my analysis a little bit more because I really liked him as a prospect you know but then you know there's like guys like you know kalon black I'm at four percent kalon black I don't know a lot of the a lot of the handcuffs my approach has been to get them for sure but I don't want to be massively overweight on a certain handcuff when there is a lot of people that are like I don't want to be massively something that needs to go down in order for those guys to probably be useful in some way and right you know a guy like johnson I didn't even know for a lot of the summer like if he was for sure going to be that handcuff obviously I wish that I leaned into the evaluation part a little bit more but yeah what I did notice is that a lot of the handcuffs for instance like a like a tank bigsby I'm at six percent tank bigsby okay he was a guy that everyone was drafting like people have like 15 tank bigsby and I you know do I wish I I wish I had 15 tank bigsby if saquon barkley goes down yes of course like if that happens but there are so many situations across the league that I don't think I'm overweight on any handcuff but I have exposure to all of these handcuffs right I'm trying to approach it in a way where if this one thing happens I'm going to see something from it but I'm not putting all my eggs in one injury basket because that just feels like just and just embracing volatility way too much in the end and most handcuff situations are such because there is a talent discrepancy between the two players right whereas ambiguous backfields that we target there's not as much of a talent discrepancy obviously and I would say in most instances the two ambiguous running backs are going to have a talent level that is going to supersede that of your traditional handcuff right a guy who even if they assume the volume because of an injury or something happening in front of them at the depth chart might not be able to be as efficient with those touches yeah as somebody who's shown enough talent to the point where an NFL team says we're comfortable giving you 40 of the workload anyway yeah so you're talented enough to meet that threshold and then if something happens you get a ton of volume on top of that a good example of that and I want to throw this out there so that people know how I acted with I've been talking about the Jacksonville backfield all summer okay ever since they got Chris Rodriguez it's been a a big fantasy football battle and I think it's good to end this this season of becoming a best ball bro talking about Bayshall Tootin and Chris Rodriguez because I figure I feel like I feel like that's how the the the show started probably you know this this summer but I think that there and this is my general philosophy of best ball versus redraft and why I took the stance and I've said all summer that Chris Rodriguez is a better in best ball type investment because Rodriguez is going to see work in this backfield okay and I think that's a good thing because I think that's he's he's going to they might be 50 50 in week one the difference though is that I don't think he has a receiving upside and Bayshall Tootin has more explosive upside the pass catching upside is there he's younger there's more ambiguity to Bayshall Tootin's profile and so in a regular managed season-long league you're going to have a very hard time more than likely knowing exactly when to start Chris Rodriguez I think it's going to be a pain in the butt you might actually run into that with Bayshall Tootin and Chris Rodriguez but I think it's going to be a pain in the butt as well you very might well like have the exact same issue with him the difference though is I see a path to upside of being a legit RB2 into RB1 territory in in managed season-long fantasy football but this is me putting my money where my mouth is in terms of the analysis that I'm giving I have 9.3% Bayshall Tootin and I have 9.3% Chris Rodriguez in best ball right now okay so like this is not a like I will sit here all day and I'm going to sit here all day and I'm going to sit here all day and say that you should be targeting Bayshall Tootin in the fifth to sixth round of your season-long draft all day because the upside case rests in him Chris Rodriguez I actually think he's not that undervalued so maybe it's a terrible like not the best example I think that you can still throw that dart at him late because he's just still going as late as he is like realistically I don't think there's a massive massive difference between Chris Rodriguez and JK Dobbins you know it's a very similar experience from a target share standpoint early down the road and then running maybe Rodriguez sees the goal line work similar offense in terms of what we're expecting from them scoring wise it's an arbitrage off of JK Dobbins right so I think Chris Rodriguez is fine late and I have him as a dart throw in the draft guide but in best ball this is a situation where I'm drafting more of those Chris Rodriguez types which is why I should have probably drafted more JK Dobbins but you know I have more Jordan Mason and but again Mason's one of those guys where the one of those guys where the one of those guys where the two of those guys where the two of those guys are in the draft and I think it's it's become smarter and elevating the upside which is why for the summer Travion Henderson was was elevated above Ramondre Stevenson which I think was kind of the sharp thing to to to do initially until you know people were just completely stubborn with their Travion Henderson take and they're not reacting to what's coming out of New England and saying guys Ramondre Stevenson's the RB1 Ramondre Stevenson's the RB1 like stop doing this right and mind but with that being said what that means is that some of those early down runners are becoming more values late and I'm going to be more open then to drafting Jordan Mason types Chris Rodriguez types and both season long and in best ball it's just easier in best ball which is why I have that 9.3 percent mark with both Bashaw Tootin and Chris Rodriguez so much easier when we don't have to pick this is the week that somebody gets tackled within the three yard line and Chris Rodriguez gets the ball we don't have to we don't have to pick the three yard line we don't have to pick that in best ball it just happens for us and look it might be a pain in the butt with Bashaw Tootin and season long it really might be but I am fine in that part of your draft just shooting for upside and I think he's the one that has more upside within that backfield but Rich this was awesome as always another season in the books love doing the show with you hopefully we get to do it again next year but until then let everyone know what you're working on where they can find you and where they can you see your see your Jets takes too I'm working on keeping this in in Southern California and not having to bring it back to New Jersey next summer this being his trophy for the for for the audio for the audio listeners yes they're this janky this janky trophy where the cup is the 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