B6 Tells His Life Story (Full Interview)

Now at this point, what genre of music do you consider yourself? I don't think I have a genre. I mean, you know, the basics were out, but it's more like a conscious in the now type of route. Like, I'm breaking back knowledge. I'm not sound as smart as forever. We'll be the smartest guy in the world, but like, let's tell my music, we've got to have a little bit of wits about yourself though, you know. That's why I cover so many bases when I wrap because I want everybody to feel like they know something or include it, you know. And what's been the reaction to that? Because not every artist is dropping knowledge within their music. You know, some artists it's just a fun time. It's just a vibe. Yeah, that's them though, but the reaction I receive is the exact reaction that I wanted. Everybody's, they've been fucking with them. I'm not going to lie. They've been liking it. They I've really been trying to bring something different. Now, were you like this from the very beginning with your music, or maybe you were just a fun time in a vibe at first and then transitioned more into dropping knowledge and being conscious so on and so forth? At first, yes, because I was shining always get those, you know, head turning. Oh, who's that? Like, stuff like that's always wanted to stand out and be different. Whether it be put anime in a song or whether it's something about geology or anything, like you put anything in the song and make it, you know, add a little sweat to it and make it understandable for people to digest and ingest. Have you gotten feedback where people like we want more knowledge, we want more consciousness within your music? Definitely, but I'm still a young black man from east out of Atlanta. So you know, I'm always going to throw a little bit of swing in there. You know, Lushwad here and there. Well, I learned stuff new every day and I try to implement it into my rap studio because I know somebody, when I learned something new, I know somebody that already mastered it, you know. And I want to dive a little bit deeper with ATL, a little bit further on in this conversation, but still just on the subject of music here. Initially, when it comes to rapping, what is your opinion on ad-libs in a song? Ad-libs make a break the song. I say that because some songs don't even need ad-libs. Sometimes you might need ad-libs, if I got to a little telephone sound on their preset or wherever it may be, but sometimes like FoxBD, he's preset for his ad-libs be up same as the vocal, main vocal. So it's like, I feel like ad-libs, one thing I can't say is ad-libs is a defining feature for the artists. So however they do the ad-libs, is like you know that defines them. And we'll talk about yours here shortly, but you mentioned something to the effect of sometimes you need it, sometimes you don't, sometimes it's just a little of this, sometimes it's a lot of that. What's your strategy when it comes to ad-libs? How do you know when to implement them when you do? I just feel it. I just feel it for real, like sometimes the beat so soothing and angelic and the worships roll out the tongue so nicely, that those ad-libs just sound like extra background noise, for real. And sometimes you don't have just like that song, I'll be listening to a song before I put the ad-libs on it, and it just don't have that certain "e" to it. You've got to add those ad-libs to make it tense, right? Just, just spicy enough. So for you, if we zoom out for a second, there is a circle chart of 100%. What percentage are you implementing ad-libs within a song versus no implementation? It's not needed. It's like rough estimate. That's like 75/25. 75/25, because it's like 75% of the time I'm going to put ad-libs on the song, but 25% of the time I won't. Now when you do implement them, the 75% of the time, do you have a signature ad-lib at this point and ad-lib you're known for? I do. Care to share what that is. That's how I go. It just, I don't know, just give it that excitement in me. I really do it mostly on beat drops though. One of the beat drops for you. That'd be the best part for it. And is there a meaning behind the ad-lib at all? I don't want to say it's a gun sound because that's not how it gun sounds. But it's more so of something to just be like, okay, like listen up. Something to just get the ears going. Maybe that whole song went in one ear throughout the other ear, but some of you hear that. It just, okay, hold on. Give your little George. That's all your little George. Now were you the first recording artist to ever do this ad-lib? No. No, I was not. One person who I probably, because I used to do, I didn't add the bop-bop. I used to like, you know, different guns, gun sounds or sound effects, whatever you want to call them. But it was just one artist's frame. He's locked up right now. Nine, nine, six, two-faced. He like mastered that sound, you know. He was going up before I was going up, but it's not like I took it from him. It's more so of a hummage thing because it's like, it's hard. So it's not like, I'm trying to steal it, but it's more so of like, if I add that to my song, it'll probably be hard. And I think I do it more than him. Now I don't even think he doesn't know more. I'm not even gonna lie. Now you had no problem in this interview sharing this inspo. Yeah. There are some recording artists when you ask them these line of questions, even if there was an inspo, they may not say it or admit to it. Why no problem for you here sharing a name? Because I like to be real. I just like to keep it real, you know. And he deserved his shine. I've discovered him when I was broke working in Houston at a construction job, 2021, in my hotel room, scrolling on my phone. I'm like, he might be one of the ones turns out he was. You know, this guy caught up with the law. Can't say good people don't, but you know. Now speaking of shine, you had no problem shining a light on him, giving him his flowers, so on and so forth. On the opposite end of the spectrum, have you inspired others yourself? Have people given you shine or their flowers? Yes, yes, sir. They have this past year. It's the thing I got caught be since flowing, where it's like it's a lot of flows out here, a lot of people use, you know, a lot of rhyme schemes, but mine's implements the art of what is it called when you don't know what's going to happen? Like a surprise like it's not it's not random, but it's not structured, you know, what I mean? Now, when you've been given flowers, shine, so on and so forth, has this sort of been, has this sort of thing been done privately or publicly? People don't drop songs, naming them after me, people be on TikTok tagging me, maybe want to be a guy on this song because they trying to write like me, shout out to my producer, is he too? Because he helped kill right that whole wave with his sound, like with his beats, because they all sort of sound similar, but completely different though. So it's like once I hear him and I rap on him, I just get the flow and how I flow, B6 flow, and a lot of people took to that like, okay, this nigga might be fine with it, so they all, you know, I have a lot of, a lot of people don't drop this, the same exact song gives me, not bar for bar, but you know, they name the song the same thing, all type of stuff, but I think though, I feel thanks, I appreciate it. Now, before we sidestep, before we move on with some other topics, just with what you just said here, I do want to sidestep with TikTok, just in case, you know, those in the audience are getting to know you here for the very first time and, you know, want to make sure they're following the official handle on that platform, just in case there's some fraudulent profiles, scammy profiles, spammy profiles, so on and so forth, care to share your handle on that platform, their TikTok. Every platform, that's B6, is B fucking six. It's, I mean, X over the C, no G on fucking, you know, BFUXKIN6, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's my game, game with that XO. And why the X over the C there? The X over the C because I don't like that crap shit, a lot of folks would be doing, man, I just don't like it. Ain't got a lot of life, you want to try to crap me before, I see a lot of crap shit going on. And we just, you know, how like teases them, don't put the, the cross to the old for standing against oppression, you stand against crowds, man, like we're not crabbing each other, we're not crowds in the bucket, barrel, whatever you want to call it, we're not doing it. Now, when it comes to, you know, people naming songs like you are sounding like you, not bar for bar, you know, I'm paraphrasing you here, which you just described, you sounded thankful to that. And I don't know if you were trolling there or being sarcastic or you were just being humble and honest there, but because there are some artists that are the opposite of that, they're territorial over that sort of thing. They'll call someone out something out privately, publicly, sometimes it can be a mess, super dramatic. Why the opposite here for you? Because you got to understand, they're paying homage to me because they can't be or will never be me. So with that being said, I'm not down in anybody. Anybody can be great. A lot of people out here are better than me, but with that being said, though, I appreciate that you're using, like, inspo from me to find your own way, you know, because a person can literally recreate everything I do, and they won't get the same buzz or the same attention that I get if I do it because they're not me. That's why I don't ever be trippin' because the people who do this don't be V6. They They be themselves. And you can hear it when they read mix of a reading. or you know, paraphrase my stuff. You can hear it, like, I hear the originality and the bars and stuff like that. I be appreciative. I come from a lot. I appreciate that. I mean, nobody want to recreate my music, then, so. - And have you always held this mentality or maybe you were a territorial at first and then grew into this? - At first, I was because I thought somebody could take it away from me. You know, like, if you do it better than that, I do it even though I did it first. It's gonna be his. You feel me, but that's not the case, though. - And also, as we wind down the subject of flowers here, where do you stand on that debate of giving one's flowers publicly, like you did on this platform with this particular person, or privately, someone, you know, texting or DMing you these flowers or this shine? Where do you stand on that debate? 'Cause I've heard positive for either side there. - Both, really? I'm both. I'm not gonna lie. When it comes to, like, I'm a fan of the music. When I started getting buzzed and going up and going to these great places of music and meeting these great people, I started becoming a fan of music. So the stuff I listen to nowadays, won't even be some outlets until 2020, 2021. Feel me? So it's like, when I see these people, 'cause I'm me, I still be trying to, you know, at like a regular person, put my pants on one leg of time. When I see people, I tell them, like, you're five, like, you're really five, but they look at me like, no, you five, you'd be six, but I really would try to tell people, like, you got a real fan, like, real supporter. - And asking, because I've heard some say, you know, why hide these flowers privately? Give them to me publicly. Let the whole world know how you feel about me. Then I've also heard the opposite where one would say, you know, giving someone their flowers privately is actually more genuine than doing it publicly. - It depends on how you do it. Because you don't never want to be that person who only waits when somebody does something in front of people to congratulate them, you know. 'Cause it's like, I'd be thinking of artists, like, I got a couple of bros who'd be rapping. And I'd be telling them all the time, like, bro, like, this song should have way more views than it does. And I'm not telling, 'cause I ain't gonna lie, everybody know it. If you don't need to just look, I'll tell you, 'cause I don't want you to chase a dream. Like, if somebody out here right now who's been rapping for five years, 'cause nobody around him is manning up to tell them that the music is not what he thinks it is, you know. But when I tell you, I got a couple of partners who don't say some of the fires, like, it's just me, I begin to get spoiled from them, for real, for real. I'm gonna tell you the truth. So it's just like, I'd be telling them all the time, like, you didn't get enough recognition, 'cause you know how I'd be, like, you don't get enough recognition for some, you're like, gonna do the next thing. Thank you for Lizzo right here. Thank you Lizzo. Lizzo got famous off the song. She made like five, four, three years before she blew up and then shot a video to it. When the video was four, five, three years old, you know. So it's like, it's stuff like that. - And that's a tough topic too, is especially an artist that's coming up. How does one know if they're getting the correct feedback or not? Because if they're asking friends, family, significant other, you know, they could be not giving them the honest truth, maybe a little honesty, but a little half truth because they don't wanna hurt one's feelings. And vice versa, if they get, you know, some negativity, they can brush that off as, oh, you're just hating on me. It's really better than what you say. So how does one really know or judge their music and know whether people are keeping it real with them or exaggerating the truth or underestimating the truth? You know, that's already thing. The way to cut through all that is be one with yourself, all right? 'Cause this month, it had been a lot of times right to look up at the ceiling, looking at God though. And I'll be like, I'm doing the right thing, I'm just in the wrong place. You could be the best rapper in the world, say some of the highest things ever, but these people in this room want you, they can't listen to the country music, you know what I mean? So it's not like, it's something on you. You just gotta be one with yourself. So you know what you're alive with and in tune with, so you know what you want, that's it. And okay, also speaking of God as well. What is your opinion, what's your viewpoint, what's your perspective on religion? Do you follow religion at this point in your life? I do. I got a very close relationship with God. I don't go to church like I used to 'cause I only wanna go to church with my grandma. And sadly, she lives two hours away from me. So I can't, you know, every Sunday, boom, boom, boom, boom. But yes, I do have a real close relationship with God. My life has been great so far, so we just gotta keep it real good. - So just for clarification here, do you follow a religion as well? - No, I'm Christian, I'm a Christian. - Okay, God. - Yeah, I'm a Christian. - God it. And when it comes to Christianity, does it get any more specific under that for you? Like even under that umbrella, sometimes they get, die a little bit deeper with denominations and branches under that. So it didn't know if it got more specific than just Christianity. - Yeah, no, I'm just a Christian that follows God. I don't follow words from other people who I just follow. Things that's not tangible, but I know that they're there though, if that makes sense. - And this sounds like this originated from being raised under Christianity? - Yes, sir. - And this grandmother yours that you're mentioning here, mother side or father side that you're referring to? - Mother side. - Mother side. - Shout out G-Maw, shout out G-Maw. - And when it comes to this artist, that inspired this signature ad lib of yours has he reacted or reached out to your music at all? - Yeah, he proud. I said, he's in prison right now, but he's proud though. He'd be, um, we'd be texting back and forth through DMs and everything, 'cause like I said, back in 2021, I seen his Instagram, he had like less than 5K and I knew he was gonna be the one. And his music started blowing up, he started getting the buzz. And I'm like, Brian knew it. And I was trying to, you know, get right myself. And so he seemed, he was like, I'm proud of you, all the work you put in, like you did it, you did it. And it's crazy that he said that, 'cause I've never seen a real life. And people I know to this day never said anything like that to me. - And even though you didn't say, I mean, there's a recording artist said never have met, but still have collaborated on something. Have you two collaborated on any material yet? - Not yet. I'm waiting on come home. He could be on something though. - Now, speaking of collaborations, when it comes to collaborating with other recording artists, have you ever added your ad-libs to another artist's verse on the same song? And not just merely like introducing yourself, like you're about to appear on the track, but like having your ad-libs sprinkled behind another. - Yeah. I can't remember exactly what song it was. I'm not even sure if you're released. But yeah, I did it before. - And how did that work exactly with that particular instance? Was that something you were asked to do? Was that something you voluntarily do on your own? - I'm not gonna lie when, see, nowadays it's like a newer, it's like a newer thing with the underground. Nowadays, a lot of like the art, so to speak, is more on the artist's shoulders, much more than back then, like label inducing stuff and management teams and stuff like that. But it'll just be us, we be friends, bros. We be in the studio a lot, man. And you know what, man, I think those ad-libs on your shit, you throw some on my eyes, 'cause I ain't gonna lie. Like I said, those ad-libs make or break this on. And a lot of people are known for their ad-libs. So it's like, you know, let's mix it in the mastery. Me gonna be a lot forever, you can't, you know. Might work with everything we can before we get up outta here, man, for real. - And what are your thoughts on songs? Slight twist here, with another artist's ad-libs. But no hooker verse from them on that song. It's just their ad-libs sprinkled behind others. - Shout out Childish Gambino. This is America. Yeah, y'all thought ad-libbing on there, and which was, 'cause this is this thug, you know? So you hear Childish Gambino. You're like, okay, that's the 2005 dude, right? But then you hear thug on there. And it's like, like future when he say, "If you're a Metro, don't trust you, I'ma shoot you." When you hear that, you just get that familiarity. And I don't know what it does, something for you, before the brain. So you hear that familiarity. You're like, okay, man, I can get this song a chance, or, okay, this was a good listen. It's something like that around the area. - Now, have you ever done this yourself? Have you been asked to do this? Have you asked others to do this on your music? - No, not yet. - Would you be open to either scenario? - Yeah, I just got to lock it in, find the right sound, you know? - Now, ask you a variety of questions in regarding to ad-libs, and that subject matter there. Is there anything else you wanna mention before we dive into another subject here? - Don't steal mine, don't steal mine, that's all I gotta say. - Well, can you break that down? Is there a difference between being inspired and stealing? - Yes, it is, because people do things verbatim, and that's blatant copying, you know? Blatin' copying, they'll say the same thing, and you say, do it how you do it. Yeah, I don't tune on it, they go throw out of tune on it. It's just like, that's the difference between plagiarism, like stealing and showing homage. Like, showing homage is a flash, you know? Like a flash of the old artists that I'm paying homage to, but you not go, it's something like Michael Jackson, because I'm saying, he, he, you know? But I'm trying to sound like him, then it's like, okay, like you pushing it. But if I say I'm bad in the beginning of a song, and then I'll write it down. out B6 flow, the whole song, then it's like, okay, I see, I see he saved me bad, because of Michael Jackson, but that's still B6 though, you know, something like that. Now let's dive a little bit deeper with you personally here, okay? That was a little bit about music and we might touch on music once again a little bit shortly, but a little bit later on this conversation, but let's get to know you a little bit more personally here, starting with this stage name of yours. Now what is the correct way to pronounce this stage name? B6. Do people mispronounce this? No, not for real. Do people misspell it? Yeah, which is crazy. A lot of people find have their own way of spelling B6. Some people I've never seen somebody spell out B go. I'm not the person to do that. B-E-E-S-I-X, that's me. If you see that somewhere, I did that, but some people B-E-S-I-X or B6, I-X like they don't let all of them. Maybe a space between B and 6 as well? Yeah, like something like that. And why no space between B6 for you? Because it's one word, it's just me. I'm only one person. No, if it was two of me, it might have been. This is me and then this is six, but it's just me. I'll be six. And because people do misspell this stage name, was there ever a thought on changing this stage name, perhaps? No, never thought about changing it. Never, never change it. Never go by the same name. I mean, it's somebody else or a different name. I mean. And as short as this stage name is, relatively speaking, do you accept any abbreviations of it? You'll be four, six. You call me a little B or you call me six. Do you have a preference between the two? Six. And zoom me out. Not a trick question, but it may sound similar to the last one. Do you have a preference between even that abbreviation or your full stage name in its entirety? Which would you prefer to be called by six? Oh, day-day basis, just call me six. Yeah, you don't got it. Be six. Be six. Greta for six. You don't got it. You know, because they don't flow off the tongue like you think you do. It's B to the six. So you can just call me six. So you may be six. Nobody would call me libido. I really call myself that. I'm not going to tell. And also, you know, when it comes to social media, once again, you broke down your TikTok previously and you mentioned this handle for all the platforms, but just to reiterate in case those in the audience are just tuning into this, because I want to take a little bit deeper dive, which is your Instagram here momentarily. Can you share the correct handle for that as well? Instagram.com/mielfuXKIN6. And can you explain the meaning behind that screen name there? Why? You mentioned previously why the X instead of a C, but why the phrase be fucking six, which is also a title you used for a project of yours. I can't remember the Instagram name I had before be fucking six, but it was a point of time where people was just so bubbly to see it. So every time they'll see me be fucking six. So I was like, I got nice room to it. And I see all the Instagram pages who was trying to steal my goddamn Instagram name. K, fucking five, nine, fucking three years old. It's a whole bunch of them, bro. A whole bunch of them like, yeah, I started that though. And also when it comes to this Instagram profile of yours, primarily the bio section there, you have this imagery of this tank. Are you able to explain the meaning behind that? You know, first person to really ask about that, that's a good question. Once again, it's just going back to being different. And the show to drive. How hard is it to stop a tank? You're going to play GTA 5. So you know the train on there, you can't stop it. What's no matter what you do? I'm like that, but I want to put a train in my bio though. So I go tank, little machine gunner on the top, you know, getting a little armed fatigue about it. And even more deeper dive with the stage name here, what is the meaning behind its entirety? The letter B, the number six, so on and so forth. Can you break that down? Every time somebody asks me this question, I'll give them a different answer. So it's just, I used to go by my real government name everywhere I go. And as you can see, that's kind of counterproductive for the things I used to do. So it's like, you don't want to negative call your real government name down the screen. You know, don't know who looking for you or who know you, you know. So he was just like, I'm going to give you a name, my partner. I'm just going to give you a nickname. Everybody had nicknames. I grew up my whole life like the name, but I can't never get a nickname. Like maybe my last name was Johnson. I could have been CJ or something, but it just didn't work out like that. So he was like, I'm going to give you the name B6, man. I don't know, just fit you. I guess at this time, a lot of people was going around D5 and C9. I got a potman C10 frame shot at C10, but you know, he just gave me that name and I ain't got a lot of Kipper ever since. And every time somebody gave me, it don't really got no true meaning to it though. That's why every time somebody asked me that question, I'll give them a different answer. And when it comes to this government name of yours, care to share that during this. Yes, because it's on fucking Google now. My name is Cory though. My name is Cory. I ain't going to get a last name, but my name is Cory. C-O-R-E-Y. People still spill my shit wrong. K-O-R-I-C-O-R-Y. All type of shit, bro. And was there, uh, uh, do you know the history behind this first name of yours? Who names you this and the meaning behind that? My dad. I'm a junior. So my dad named me. Mom probably hadn't had that much to say so. I can't even lie. But I never asked him why he was named that though. That's when I got asked my grandfather. He's no longer with us. Now I wanted to circle back to Atlanta as previously mentioned and dive a little bit deeper with your stomping grounds here. And let's take it all the way back just for historical purposes for those in the audience getting you to know you for the very first time. Care to share where you were actually born. I was born in Athens, Georgia. Rolling Ridge, if you know you know it's a project. But I was born in Athens. I migrated to the A when I was about like three four. And care to share where you reside these days. These days, I'm on the east, east side of Atlanta. Still, to this day, I don't got a lot. When east out of Atlanta, but I got multiple houses. I got one in Winder, one in Robbins, one in Latonia, but I'm one like the east side, east east. Now let's dive a little bit deeper with that. When it comes to the initial move from Athens to ATL, do you recall the reason? Yeah, my mom met my brother's dad, BG, shout out a little BG here. Up come arts right now and producer. And they got married. So when you know, people love each other. But they got married and they moved in together. But before they got married, they had got a spot together, you know, right out Cults Highway Park Place. That's what it's called. Right out Cults Highway. Right there by the Pelt Boys. That's the first house I lived in when I stayed. And when I moved to A, but that was his house. So they want to get a house that they own together. So we got our apartment right across the street from the Skokers on Brocky Road. And that's like, yeah, that's the second house I've never lived in. And I think the last one they lived in was on Penolla. And then that's when the honeymoon phase ended and you know how that goes. So you literally lived across the street from strokers at one point in your life? Yeah, but I don't think strokeers are right there, though. I don't think strokeers are right there. It was a aquarium. And it was just great that Chinese take-out place that you've had the best. I forgot. Was it sweet and sour soup? And they just had like a little crunchy crackers. Oh my God. That seems to be so good. My mom used to bring her home putting the fridge. Yeah, she used to wear a gun back because it was gone. So there's a strokeers there now, but it wasn't at the time when you were there. It wasn't at the time. Got it. Okay. It made me it was, but I was just too young to notice. I just remember it being a aquarium right there for a show, though. Like you can go in there. Not a big aquarium, but you can go in there and pick up any type of fish, type stuff, take it home. And just for further clarification as well, when it came to growing up in Atlanta, was it a certain portion of Atlanta you were raised in or you claim? Yeah, the inside. Okay. I ain't never been too much on the west side, too much on the south side, too much on the north side. Those places I kind of venture when I got older, but like I'm not going to lie, like I live like a very small life, you know, compared to what a lot of other people have and I ain't never really going to wear a majority state on the east side of my whole life. I really just started venturing out like 24 for real. And asking because I asked you originally, you know, where you reside these days, and you said east side of Atlanta, but didn't know if that was technically where you reside or what you actually grew up in, but that's why I asked again, I didn't want to. So I reside is like, I want to say, this is a couple minutes while we're fine. Like 10 minutes. Now speaking of ATL, circumstances could be different for everyone, but can you give the audience here five tips for anyone moving to Atlanta? Five tips for anybody who moves to Atlanta. Do not park your car wherever you think you park your car in because every year it's a new boot nigger. that just come around and terrorize the city, put boots on in his cars. Two, park your car in the garage. It might not stop a lot of determined people, but it stops the majority. Don't leave your shit like, don't, if you got a nice car, get another car. Get an everyday car. Something you can't do that, you might be, get a bike, a scooter or something. If you have a nice car and you live in Atlanta, there's a possibility that that can become someone else's car. So I'll speak. Three, don't share your food spots. Don't share your food spots 'cause I remember when I got locked up. I'm not a jailbird though, but I got locked up one day and I'm looking on the TV in there and then nigga got shot right at the waist by that girl too. So that's why you don't show niggas where you eat. Four, if you like, I'm not gonna lie, I love North Carolina, South Carolina. But do not come to the city on no crazy dress and shit. I know a lot of people out here dress crazy already, but it's like a certain fashion that's going on out here. You know, don't come out here wearing no crazy shit. High tools, basketball shorts, like you feel it going hoot, nigga. It's not 2014 or more. We don't do that shit. That shit old. And the fifth thing, bring your own everything. If you go somewhere, don't never ask nobody for nothing. You don't gotta ask nobody for nothing. If you don't got it, you just don't need it. That's it. Now let's break some of these items down a little bit further. Starting with the car stuff here, okay? And sounds like auto theft or stealing something in a car, so on and so forth. Now you gave some advice, some tips there. But have you ever on the opposite end of the spectrum been a victim of this yourself? Have you ever had a car stolen from you? Someone break in and rummage through your car, so on and so forth? I don't lie. And this was the craziest thing ever. I remember it had to be like 2022 in a car that was parked right in front of mine, got stolen. And the person who car was, it was a lady that lived beside me. She was saying that I knew who it was because they didn't take my car. Now, it's like half truth, half a lot to that. Because I might have known who it was because they didn't take my car and they knew it was my car, you know? But then again, I'm not too sure. So I still, to this day, I figured out who stole that damn car. But yeah, I don't see it happening. I don't see it happening too many times. Not gonna lie. What was the end result of that bond with you in this neighbor? Did things sour after that? No, no, that was already sour. She was, hey, she was a hater. She was a hater. So I'm looking at her like, do I like to type a nigga that'll orchestrate some long niggas that come take a kill? Do that look like the type of shit I do? No, that's why it was like, I just felt tried. Like it was like, why the hell would I get somebody to take your car? And I got a car. And you mentioned you're not a jailbird here, but you did mention a stint when you were in jail, one point in your life. Is that case charge over and done with it this point in your life or is that something you're still facing today? I believe it's over, and that shit was from like 2022. That shit blew me. 'Cause I had a warrant from 2022 that I didn't know I had. So they got me like last year and that was bullshit. I was in jail for like a week and shit blew me. How'd you ready to go home? I'd be missing my bed, bro. Like, jail ain't really none to a nigga. 'Cause I like, you know, but I just be wanting to go home. I like watching TV when I can. I'm like, even when I go outside. So that's why I'm fucking hate jail. And honestly had no idea how to work. Honestly, didn't have no idea. 'Cause I got, they took the stuff from me that I had. A little measly fire on, a little measly marijuana. But he wrote me a ticket. I didn't go to jail for that, which was oddly suspicious. He wrote me a ticket to court, went to court, khakis on, you know, dressed like a nigga who went to go to school. And they hit me with, oh, I'm sorry, we don't got no paperwork for you. Go to the back, see the courthouse clerk. So you can give me your information. She'll call you, blah, blah, blah, blah. Get my information. She never called me. I wish I could know her name so bad. And they gave me a bench warrant for that. And I didn't know that I had a warrant. So I got pulled over. And my brother didn't have his license. So I'm like, all right, buddy, you outta here. I had some unit couple days. I did not get the driver's car. He got a challenger. I'm not gonna drive in the car. He's gonna be mad. They take me to jail. I'm like, bro, what the hell? The legal gun on me? Everything I have, nothing illegal on me. They still took me to jail. They said I had a warrant from 2022. Now, module. But they got a warrant from 2022, right? What was stopping them from coming to get me? All the time. I got pulled over in the country, Warner Robbins. Like one of the streets that leads to Warner Robbins. Not even in Warner Robbins. And it was just like, I don't know. It just threw me out for a couple of days. That's all I wanted to know. And when it comes to attire here, you mentioned sometimes people dressed to impress when they come to ATL. But when it comes to your outfit during this interview, care to share the inspo on this. I know they can only see you waist up here, but they will see pictures from the interview later on of the full ensemble. Customized vans. I got from New York. Modello, I think that was his name. Is he make these? He just had a vans collab, an official collab with vans. So shout out to him. My partner made these jeans. Oh, no. What a dust on them. And nobody got them. I think I don't know why we got them. And he makes-- he also has another clothing brand that's prospering right now, side of him. And right team. And it gets hot. It's hot. I love the jacket. I had a righteous jacket. Anybody know what righteous is? All type of Jesus and God and all type of stuff on there. But it was hot, man. It was hot. I had to leave it. And I just wanted to rewind one more time to auto theft and car break ins. That is something that people do complain about is these car break ins and ATL. Never had your car broken into once. Never. What's the secret behind that? Do you do anything special? Do you-- Yeah, I don't drive. I don't drive my car nowhere. And I know where to park. So if I do drive places, I know where to park. You just got to be a intuitive nigger. Not one of these lambs. I call them lambs because they see some-- Oh, you parked right there after the park over there too? No, dummy. That's not what you're supposed to do. It's supposed to be real intuitive about this shit. No cab. All right, now when it comes to growing up in ATL for you, for the majority of your life, especially that east side there, what was that really like growing up in that environment for you? You kind of gave just a tip of the iceberg of the description, but didn't know if you wanted to dive a little bit further. It wasn't bad, so to speak. It wasn't bad. It wasn't good either though. But it wasn't like-- because I live, like I said, I live a real simple life. So growing up, I didn't really have no phone like that. I used to go outside all the time. So the stuff I used to see and then taking to my brain felt like the right things, you know? Until I got a phone start, you know, Instagram, and start seeing all this shit. Because when I started thinking about other stuff in life, that probably wouldn't ever even cross my mind if I would have still been living. But you know, as time goes on and people grow up, you get into more things. So, like, wasn't that bad though, you know? I'm a real like area or into person. So I really stayed in like the same area. Like, everything I needed was in the same area. So I ain't never had to go downtown to go to Linux. You know, StoneCress was right there down the street. You feel me, so just stuff like that. This simplicity or this simple living, that attitude, that mentality, so on and so forth, is that just your own here? Or is that how you were raised to be? - That's my own. I had a lot of own. - 'Cause there are some that are the opposite. They're very extravagant. They show off, they're boastful. - I don't see how I'm getting into that more as I grow up and time goes on, because you don't live for everything. I don't want to be simplistic forever. I'm very simplistic, but it comes to time where it's like, okay, you gotta turn up now, baby. So, yeah, I've been living like very, very simple for the most part for about a good 20 years, but these past three years have been amazing though. I don't know. - And Carrie, share your current age at this point. - I'm 23. - Yeah, I did time 23, April 4th. So, all y'all homes out there who be, you know, just think of a nigga where April 4th coming around. I might do something for ya, I might not, oh no. Now, you had no problem sharing your age here on camera, but there are some recording artists. Yeah, ask 'em that question as simple as that is, and they will not answer that. - That's because you asked them, 'cause you have a very big platform, and every time I get interviews, nobody ever asked me my age. Just like, "Aes, I'm not gonna say "Aes" don't matter, 'cause that's a bold statement, but it's like, people who don't, a lot of people who I take as well from, or people who look up to me, a lot of people would be older than me, and it'd be a lot of people who younger than me, and I'd be like, "Man, are you so cool? "I was like, I'm gonna be a shit dude, don't lie. "Shit like that. "I'm gonna 23 now." So, now there are some notable people that have come from the east side of ATL. Did you have a front row to any of them, so to speak, on your journey, growing up? Did you have an up close person, look at anybody on their rise, on their come up. - Nobody, as I always, I was very late to music. I started giving them to music high school. So I remember ninth grade to have eight songs on my phone when they all went the same nigga. So I swear to God, eight songs all the same nigga. And like I said, my new found fame opened up my ears, unclogged my ears so I really get to listen to and understand a lot more gift type of music that, you know, come my nine days. But back then, I didn't really tap, you know, I missed a lot of waves. I think I called a baby wave, but he was like a West Side nigga. So it's like, I didn't really relate to him though. You've heard me, but I missed a lot of waves. I missed 21 waves, Newty wave, future. I missed a lot of waves musically. I'm not gonna lie. But I don't feel like I miss shit though. - And how did you miss these waves? - I was just living life. Just living life, not caring, just living life. Music won't ever be a big part. Like if I made a party, somebody playing a song, he's like, they got a change or something. No, it wasn't really like how it was. It was just more so living life. - So it didn't grow up in a strict household, a sheltered household where, you know, music couldn't be played or certain artists couldn't be played. - No, no, no, we love music. Like my brother, my older brother put me on music. I said by like, oh, do you, when you're like 10, grade? Whatever age that is, he put me onto the music and it was like a lot of like, the past year, like Jose Guapo and stuff like that. Shout out Jose Guapo, I actually know him now. But he put me onto stuff like that. I don't listen to like Gunna and he thug and stuff like that. I didn't know the severity of the music and who these people were at the time or who they were gonna become for real. So it just didn't really matter like that to me. But as I'm listening to these songs, though, that's why I started smoking weed. I started feeling it for real. I'm like, okay, I might see what's going on with the music. - And why did you start smoking initially back then? - I started smoking 'cause I ain't got a lot of just weed that's been around my whole life. Okay, I mean, when I was little, my dad blew some weed smoke on my face, but I don't tell him I might be smoking. I'm like, damn, nigga, I'm a smell like it. So like, I just from like as early as I can remember for real, I remember when I was like four years old, I used to walk out the door, go across the hall to the candy lady and you would see niggas in the breeze with smoking. So it's just always been there. And you know, curiosity, curiosity, cat. I ain't dead, though, but yeah, just took a look. And I'm like, at first though, when I first started smoking, I ain't know how to smoke, though. That's why I fought with, there's one nigga named Dennis, that was school with, he's like my brother friend, but he used to smoke with me and I didn't even know how to smoke, I wasn't getting high. So it's like, that's why he's such a real nigga, though, 'cause I don't wanna, if I was me today, you're not hitting my blood. I don't even pass it to people I know for real. No cat. - Now, when it comes to clarifying here, you were a smoker first and then started listening to these artists in this music. Yeah, I started smoking 'cause I don't, I don't know. I guess that's what they were doing in '70s. Like, I don't know what the weed does, but it just makes the music more bearable. So that's when you start smoking that you get into the, you know, it's freestyle and on the YouTube beats and stuff like that. Music just eases way into my life. So it's weird. - And do you remember when age it was or what grade when you started smoking initially? - I think it was like nine grade. And it was just cannabis at first. It wasn't like tobacco products and then cannabis. - No, it was, it was like relo's tough, yeah. Tobacco products, yeah. - But I mean, you weren't a cigarette smoker first and then a cannabis smoker. - But you were growing up though, and you smoking, you don't look at it like that though. You just look at it, I need something to roll. You don't look at it like nine. If it was in California or places like Oregon and Colorado, maybe the splits in the joints would have been more implemented into society, but you can just walk around with the single sweatshirt, like a $69.7 then I said, you just see it break that down and roll that up and smoke it. So you're like, okay, that's what I got to get, okay, wrong. It's stuff like that. - Now what ultimately led music to become a career path for you? Because for some, it's a hobby for others. It's just a passion project. - I'm not gonna lie, what, when I was little, like I always knew I was gonna be some special, right? Not trying to be big-headed. And it was a lot of times where I even doubted that. For a lot of years, it was a lot of hard years. I'm not gonna lie, like from 2020, like 2023, that stretch, three years, the worst three years of my life. But at that time, I was fine, like music was my safe haven, safe space, like I could express myself how I feel about what's going on in the world or a girl who did me wrong or a partner like a goddamn crowd who wanna foot with your own shit, like shit like that. I used to like really not know how to express myself and it should be bottled up and instead of putting into actions what could get you fucked up in the future, just put it into words. And people read like, damn twin, I feel like that song was about me. Like people didn't know him, you know what I mean? People didn't know him. But I always just felt like when I was born, I wasn't a man for like the traditional lifestyle of you know, go to school, get a job, American dream, get a wife, get a dog, two kids. Never thought that life was like verbatim for me. Yeah, I'm gonna get a wife, kids, all that, but like just doing that and just becoming another person who's walked everything, just whittled away in eight years. Nah, nah, that one for me. I just felt like I was made for more. And then when I started rapping and I started seeing the stuff that it do, like the smile to put on people faces and the face people make. And it's like, that's you down, like people like, it's just, it get like that for real, it get like that. And additionally, you already mentioned previously how you got into rap and rap music and rapping and so on and so forth. But was that for clarification purposes, the first genre of music you ever encountered in your life? Yeah. Okay, it was. Yeah, my mom was a rapper. My dad was a rapper, so, but I never wanted to rap because they rap though. So growing up, I'm like, okay, yeah, it's cool. I used to rap, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they tried to make me rap when I was little, but on some, like they wrote everything for me. I just read it, you know, so I wasn't really rapping. It was just more of like gimmick or something, whatever you want to call it. But yeah, that was like some of the earliest memories I got, got rapping music playing in the background. And where they were both of these parents of yours, the only two family of members, excuse me, the only two family members of yours, that was also involved in the music scene or were there other siblings? The ones I can remember, the other ones I can remember, yeah, my mom, she would have went far if she didn't have me, which says a lot. She went very far. She opened up for Gucci man like two, three times. So, you know, that goes within itself. My dad, on the other hand though, his career never really took off for real. So it's kind of like, I had to carry the torch, type shit in me. But I always liked my dad music though. My dad's plays music around me. He reminds me of me, which sounds funny 'cause that's my dad, but like when I was young, he used to write around listening to his music. I'd be around, I'd listen to my music, you know? - Care to share their stage names at the time. - I think my mom was rapping that night. My mom's rapping name was Chino B. Chino B. But I can't remember my dad's. I can't remember. I can't, I don't know. I don't know my dad rapping name. I just know he used to rap. Now I know there was a time once upon a time that they wrote rhymes for you and you would, you know, say it. - I had to be like five, six though. Yeah, I was like five, six at that time. - Were there ever times you actually collaborated with your parents on music? - I mean, you know a little freestyle, like I play my song and then when the song go with my mom and be driving, she would spit a little eight right quick. She still got it by the way, guys. But she would spit a little eight though and she'd be like, "Yo, man, you got that for me." I'd be like, "You ain't lying though, you ain't lying." But not like official collaborations though. - And asking 'cause sometimes parents will, you know, use their kids for like skits or interludes or maybe - My dad wanted to get on the song. He go cook it up though. He more old school type of guy. So we go see how that works. - And speaking of your parents, do they play any role in your music career at this point? Like any sort of position in particular. I know sometimes. - I'm on with my manager. - That's it, that's all. - Now, how did that happen? Was that something you asked her to be a part of? Does she try to, using this word loosely before she way to that role, so to speak? - No, I asked her. I asked her because, like I said, I'm real conscious. I know everything is going around me. I'm gonna see my mom work at a doctor's office beside a family dollar before a same strip. Like the same strip took going out the states to go overseas to hospitals to implement software onto the computer. So she could teach them how to use it. And I'm like, don't you be dealing with independent contracts? And she's like, yeah, I do something. Well, I got a contract you should look at. And boom, just like that, she became my manager. She's like, well, since you want me to do this all the time, I need to be a manager, don't you? I'm like, actually, yeah, you do. She's gonna take none of my money, nothing. She just a great mom, shout out my mom, man. She just handed the business real business. business woman she only been in the game for like a year and a half and it's several people who take her every day wanting them to want to hurt the manage them and stuff like that so shout out my mom now as Rosie of a picture you painted and it might very well be but gotta ask you some of these questions too because when it comes to family businesses and we'll use that loosely here you know sometimes things can get tricky sticky and complex you know especially when it's like a motherly figure so for example it sounds very positive between you two right but let's say there's an instance where she's not happy about something in particular but you are and you might not see eye to eye at the end of the day this is your mother but she's also a role on the business side of things so using that as a quick example what happens if you don't see eye to eye with a family member but she's also your family member at the end it gets like that sometimes because we both just so passionate about the business and where we want this to go and what we want out of it but we told ourselves in the beginning we told each other that we won't never let our egos get the best of us you know just because she's my mom this because she my manager doesn't mean she's not my mom you know so I'll definitely listen to her because she's my mom but once she says stuff and it's more of a sort of a manager you till I kind of like you know though my little freestyle in and you know cuz I've been in the before I had a manager I was going up for like a year before I had a manager you know and I used to do everything I used to engineer myself I used to mix to master my own music I used to make cover art so I used to do all this drops everything so it's like I know how it's supposed to go and it's the size of the business you see that I don't see it she keep me away from so I can't keep that you know that that artist mentality of the creator you know and how did you learn all those skills there just by watching and learning watching the listen so never went any never went to any traditional schooling for those no classes for this this is the thing about the 21st century everything that you need is within arms reach literally everything you need now everything you want everything you need is within arms reach so it's like it's not hard to look at a rapper who's going up right now and take a little piece of that and implement it until your own what you got going on that shit you feel me it's like I just I don't know like my brain just do it by itself because I did it so much like I try to now to do it by itself so I can just look at a video because I look at a lot of different people I like I look at the little things you know the little things it be delicious and anything else on the as far as you know generally speaking here as far as advice or tips to those that are running or want to run maybe a family business of some sort yeah they say that family businesses are in the business right because it's family you know like I said though usually I know who you are once you know who you are nobody can override what you want or what you do because you know who you are that's why me and my mom slash manager got a good understanding because she knows what she wants and she and I know what I want and then when we make a list of both things you know the little used to draw the lines to whichever match we match up like pros and cons that shit wait the good out the bad and it just always lines up we want the same pay that's my mother so we want the same page and speaking of family what about siblings did you have any siblings growing up I got a lot of siblings I got a older brother on the mom's side and a younger brother two younger brothers on my mom's side and on my dad's side I got a older brother and two younger sisters yeah and how many same mother and father as you of the siblings same mother and father neither I think nobody got the same moment or dad you're not neither everybody different so for you growing up who would be under the household would it be times you'd be under your mother's household and your father's household will you primarily under one versus the other roof yeah I don't remember my mom my dad living together now that was like before my time so I you know travel summertime go here go there yeah circle chart of 100% what was the major percentage you were under each others I would say about 75% of time I was at my mom's come my dad lives in Athens still we're not anymore but back then he's he lived in Athens so you know it's like an hour away and when it would be times you would live under the roof of your mother how many siblings would there be under that all I wanted just me and my older brother I was a good life there nice little 50 50 split used to split everything 50 50 movies that be about two people well that's me you you know the game what's the game oh oh oh what's that game about a two brothers brothers brothers in arms I think that's the name of it it's literal game that you put the plate with your brother like shit like that that's when life was good I'm not gonna say life got bad with my little siblings was more it's just more pieces of the pie you got to make so within but it used to be good though because I got a half brother that's my little brother his dad is like that's his son but I call him my real brother though because he lived with us when my mom lived with his dad and when like movies about like three people came out like three nishes we'll say that was us so that was also good because who's on primarily the same age and stuff like that then the baby came around and it was just like okay everybody serious no more just us three now it's four of us now living the way you did 75% under one roof maybe 25 on the other was that easy or hard for you to deal with it was easy because it's like you could take your life from here and go somewhere else and get a whole new setting and I'm not a lot I'm blessed and I'm highly favoring so I never really been too many hard predicament so like you know trouble some situations type shit so it's like when I go places and a lot of people respect my dad so it's like you go places and you're like oh you chorus I okay boom you know so it'd be like that and were these living arrangements out of your control or did you ever have a choice on who you could live with under each other's roofs out of my control but I would say that though like I like the balance because my parents weren't like into each other no more so I like that balance of like you know being here than being there because it's two different lifestyles like if my mom's house I'm earning myself like you know I'm got to I got to prove myself to a lot of people in the area where kids may be now I don't know what my dad is different because he live in the house full of women it's nothing but my sisters and his girlfriend so you know what I mean so it's like we do everything you take me fishing and stuff like that you know stuff you do that's why it'd be good okay I could go see my dad that's how you mean and just for clarification you said it was out of your control yeah okay got it okay as easy as a lifestyle that was dealing with the split arrangement there what do you think was the most challenging aspect if there was a challenging aspect dealing with that it had to be like when I would go to my dad house and it would just be some of the people who remembered me and I didn't remember them that was the hardest part of my cuz I don't like people not to feel like like they forgot something I didn't know especially when these folks used to change my diaper just stuff like that so I didn't want to feel like I didn't know what people was but it was just used to be so many people like you look or are you course or you don't remember me that's shit used to get on my damn nerves I can't laugh what's the biggest lesson you think you learned living with a split household what was the biggest takeaway or just move it to all the pace I guess my parents rushed it so it wasn't really you know really never in love in love but move it to all the pace for real and let's all pace and what do you want to say to those watching or listening to this interview that has to deal with the split household as well is there anything generally speaking in that room you went along should a lot could be feeling like they'd be alone in situations like that I ain't got a lot of time a lot of people back up to that shit bro no cap a lot of people went through that shit I don't seen boyfriend my mom had when you fuck with I don't see you girlfriend my dad like who the fuck is this and why she here like shit like that you read me but you know it all work out now you mentioned a variety of artists that you were listening to as you were you know starting to you know get into rap and things of that nature or maybe it was brought upon you so to speak based on your description previously mentioned but curious here you mentioned there was like eight songs you would listen to or one artist yeah did you name drop this artist at the time no I didn't it was probably one who was probably one yep it was really popular one I had eight songs on my phone drew rich pesos on that beer drew his head I was a guapo They all had one song, "Money World". I don't know if you heard that song, but it was "Who It Rich?" "Draw a Rich Head" who I know today. I know "Draw a Rich Head" shit. I mean, "Pasel" not "Head" my bad. I know "Pasel" means "Pasel" like this. "Draw a Rich Head" was on that beat, "Gwapo" mean "Gwapo" like this. I fought with "Hose" and "Gwapo". And it's just, you know, it's crazy, like, this is, I'm talking about 9th grade. I know these people know though, you know? So it's like, they all come full circle. It was meant to be. But I did have eight songs on my phone. I used to be petting me. It was the hardest songs in the world to meet, though, bro. Like, you could not tell me nobody at the time was hardening anything, probably no one, bro. I ain't one to hear it, bro. I swear to God. I think it just had the best, like, and the crazy thing is, he wasn't even young. I think it had to be, like, 28th, 29th, 30th. "Swag of a nigga" who my age, though. "Over-swag" that, though. And he got him to pay, you know? "Betwood" be this beat. It was just like, as a young nigga, I'm like, bro. I don't want to be like that, but I need that essence, though. I need that coolness factor. - Now, you mentioned a variety of names amongst these names, as well. Were any of them in "Spo" for you on your-- - Yeah. - Ain't got a lot. It had to be, oh, Pablo Wang, he was the biggest in "Spo." 'Cause he showed me that you can have "Swag." Like, I used to hear a lot of serious rapping, you know? Like, that up north type shit, up top type shit. Mixed that in with, like, a lot of, like, Atlanta niggas who was trying to prove that they got a story to tell, but he just had "Numbushwag," though. Like, that shit was just so super-swagged out, like, "Lingo." He named him "Pacers." You know, "Bentool, Droll Pass." Never been, like, it's just so much "Swag," bro, he didn't even just have songs full of "Swag." That's it. 'Cause you're young nigga who stayed on the east side. And they were like, "Down a street from you." And they just me, "Down a street from you," all the time. So I'm like, "Down." It's your heart. Any other memories of those humble beginnings when it comes to music for you thinking back in those days? I remember, um, this is when my music started spanding. Probably one, right? I was living in, right? One of my partners showed me a video of young Marley Little Queal. They got a song called "Tomorrow." If you know, you know, if you don't, you don't know. But that's still one-- today, one of the best songs I've ever heard, shout out, um, shout out to Nicomar, 'cause he was able to snap it on that bit. But, uh, nigga showed me that video and let me hear that song. It wasn't a video. He let me hear the song. And I'm like, "Oh, these niggas, it's hard, like." But he played a video, and I'm trying, like, "Is that him right there? "They don't try to see what these niggas look like." So I could put a name to the face. But a face to the name, I mean, and it was just-- I don't know, it was just something about, like, listening to that type of music at the time. 'Cause I was still a young kid, so I wasn't really getting into a dabbling until everything I was talking about. Back when I had a little bit, though. Well, that a little bit. And when it came to those eight songs that you had that you described previously, was that a playlist you put together or someone like your brother at the time that put together? No, I put everything together. Okay. 'Cause I was getting tired of looking up names to go in between the songs. And every time I wanted to hear a new song, look up the name for getting the songs. So one day, I just took it upon myself to-- But whenever I find that song again, but I'm hearted and put it on my playlist. And that's what I did. And every song that he made that sounded similar to that, I put it on there. And when it comes to your lyrics these days, do you write or freestyle and punch it? 50/50. When I first started rapping, I was a heavy writer. 'Cause I wanted everything to sound perfect. I wanted everything to-- I wanted to jump out of the seat, who is this? That's what I wanted. But nowadays, it's more or so of-- I want everything to be natural. Even though writing is natural because it comes for you, but I used to rap my song a hundred times before I actually go to the studio. So I'm already getting the manu rhythms down and the tone, the pitch of the song, stuff like that. I used to really be-- I used to always be bad with that shit. But nowadays, I'd just be more on some, you know, free-lash type shit. It is what it is that ain't what it ain't. Was that just natural experimentation? Did someone put you on to freestyle and punching it? Yeah, that was natural. I'm not gonna lie, that was natural. I probably just freestyled a hundred times before I said my first hard freestyle. I'm not gonna lie. But after I did a hard freestyle the first time, it was like those a hundred times there. But it wasn't good. It didn't even matter. 'Cause I know the next time I freestyle, it's gonna be fine. The next two times I freestyle. And he's just like freestyled over random beats. Our freestyle, the whole beat. And it's gonna be like, you made that. That's a song, I'd be like, nah, it's a freestyle. And it'd be pronounced, be like, do that again. And I'd do it again. Now, if you mentioned this answer previously, I apologize. But because I didn't catch it, if you said it, how do you decide whether you write or freestyle and punch in at this point? 'Cause it is 50/50 you mentioned. So when I start going up and getting a little buzz, get started getting the studio other artists coming around the city and out of state stuff like that. And those just do not write music. They are some of the highest rappers ever and they don't write music, which is really like ridicule. I'm not ridicule, but they're like, it puzzled me. 'Cause I'm like, I have to write a song for at least two days for it to sound like that. And he just freestyled it. And we've been here for 30 minutes. So it's like, what the hell? And he only been rapping for 10. We've been here chilling for 20 minutes and he rapped 10 minutes ago and he just made a fire song. 'Cause you want me to rap on freestyle with you? So I had to like, you know, get that freestyle game back up 'cause I used to be big on freestyle until I started writing. And I'm like, okay, full of freestyle, I'll be writing. But if I start seeing niggas do that, I'm like, oh yeah, I know. I gotta start back writing freestyle and better, everything, everything I get better. Sonically though, do you notice any difference in the actual music when you write versus freestyle and punch in? Definitely. It's sometimes though where I just be taking over by the rap guys and I freestyle and that shit just be so far you would thought I wrote it. But definitely, you can definitely tell. I could play you 10 songs and I'll tell you if I wrote it. And if I didn't write it and you would be like, okay, you can tell. You can see the level of like the lyricism and stuff like that. Yeah, definitely. 'Cause sometimes when I write, I'm not gonna lie. I look up shit on Google. I don't never look up rhymes though. Like a lot of niggas look up rhymes. I look up words that rhyme but for the meaning though. And I already know the word. I'm not looking to find the word. I know the words, make sure that I'm using it right. That's what I do. Can you give an example? Like, let me see. I don't know, it just be a little shit like, like Mendoza. I use to wear Mendoza, right? I'm like, is Mendoza in like Argentina? And I looked it up and I think it was. Or somewhere in South America. Some, some like that, you know? But I looked it up and I just made sure a fact check. I use to find a fact checker, basically. And when it comes to this 50/50 that you mentioned, do you also 50/50 on a song? Like, is there been times where you're writing a song and then you transition into freestyling and punching it? Sometimes the song you want to hop off the fucking notes in my phone on the track so bad that I don't ever get downright in it. So I freestyled it. You're real for real? Now, when you think about your discography, what do you think's been your biggest song at this point? Genose. My biggest song right now, well, so far has been Genose, but it's not the biggest song I got right now though. The biggest song I got right now is because I heard it. When it comes to Genose. If you can recall, was that written? Punched out. Okay. Freestyle. Freestyle that song. So far, that it's my best song. It was freestyle. Yeah. I did. It took about 40 minutes to make it though. In that case, with your biggest song being freestyle, why don't you just 100% freestyling punching in instead of this 50/50? Because I don't like I said, something just came over me that night. I don't know what it was. I don't think I went to sleep that night. So it had to be like, what, four or five in the morning? You know, set up right on the little table. It was just, I don't know, I was just so tired of rapping and not getting recognized for it. Even one song. So I just made that song on some. I don't know to have a girlfriend probably at the time. Everything is a perfect mix of everything. No cap. Perfect mix. The perfect amount of anger. Everything. Everything helped me make that song. What it is today? You mentioned OCD as well. Is that just a self-diagnosis or have you ever been professionally diagnosed with something of that nature? Not professionally. My grandma has been professionally diagnosed with OCD. She don't got as bad as she used to though. But I'm just real particular. Like I said, I'm a small things type of person. So it could be like, okay, somebody's coming to the room right now and sweep vacuum with his whole floor, right? And leave. If you didn't wipe down the door, the door handle when you came in or when you live, I'm that type person. You know, you go clean, clean. You know what I mean? I'm like, I don't know. I just got something. It's just something about it. She's curious there. Well, what about this as well? When it comes to your journey into music, did you ever do talent shows or open mics on the come up? No open mics, no talent shows. It was just me. A group of friends, sometimes a mirror. Being a mirror, sometimes being a group of friends, sometimes I wrap. Like I say, I'm real like I can end the last shit very well. So I'll pull up, make it to the side, wrap it so I'm right quick. And I'll be looking at you the same time I'm looking at this. So you won't really tell that I'm looking at you for those certain expressions. But I pick up on last shit though. And I go from there. I also want to rewind once again to that self-diagnosis of OCD. And you, you know, kind of furthering the detail they're saying, you know, it's like the little things that you pay attention to. With that being said, do you consider yourself a perfectionist? Do you consider yourself an overthinker? I want to say a perfectionist or overthinker because when I get to think too much, I just do it. So no overthinking. Perfectionist, I say about 80% though, because I don't like shit to be like. If it got something to do with me, I want it to be up to par, you know? I don't want anything dealing with B6 to be measly or just, you know, like for real, like that's a real big thing I got. So if people want to, you know, like make cover arts or make beats for a nigga or something, it don't need you to be dealing with music. I just don't like anything that's like, okay, you could do that for anybody. What makes special for me, no, that's what that is. [BLANK_AUDIO]