Aziz Ansari shares a deeply personal and reflective journey from his early years in South Carolina, where he skipped grades due to being seen as exceptionally intelligent, to his rise in comedy and television. His formative experiences in New York, including stand-up comedy and the creation of *Parks and Recreation*, shaped his creative spirit and sense of collaboration. He highlights the importance of human connection, particularly in marriage, and how real, grounded interactions—like cooking with his wife or improvising in film—bring genuine joy. Aziz reflects on his evolving relationship with technology, expressing concern about the overuse of AI and chatbots, which he believes erode critical thinking and authenticity. His passion for food, rooted in Indian and Southern traditions, has grown into a daily practice, especially during the pandemic. Through storytelling and interviews, Aziz emphasizes the value of curiosity, presence, and connection—whether in comedy, filmmaking, or everyday life—as central to a fulfilling and meaningful existence. His experiences underscore a theme of balance: between solitude and connection, technology and authenticity, and creativity and human emotion.
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Hello, everyone. Welcome to this episode of Good Hang. I'm very excited about my guest today.
It is Aziz Ansari. So great to have Aziz here in the studio to talk about the past,
the present, and the future. And we're going to talk about a lot of stuff today. We're going to
talk about the fact that he skipped first grade because everyone thought he was so smart. We're
going to talk about him growing up as an Indian boy in the South. We're going to talk about Parks and Rec, of course, and all our memories there.
And we're going to talk about his cinematic directing debut, Good Fortune. Lots to get
into. But before we do that, we want to speak to somebody who knows our guest, who has great
feelings and things to say about our guest, and who has a question for me to ask our guest. And
we just have my wife, my beautiful, beautiful wife, Rashida Jones, joining us today. Rashida,
I miss you. I love you.
I love you. Let's get going. Can you hear me? Rashida, can you hear me? Uh-oh, she can't.
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This is a disaster. Okay. Um, how are you guys over there? Am I, am I the over there?
Oh, oh, oh, I can look at your face now. Yay. Oh, you couldn't see me before.
It was a side view. Oh no, it's a terrible view.
No, it was great. It was great. This is just more direct and intimate.
Bones. Polos.
We just had a tech fiasco. Fiasco.
We had a snafu. I mean, it still is a miracle that you can talk to each other in live time.
Yeah. Like across,
across regions. So I'm going to, I'm going to stick with that story.
I still can't believe that we have airplanes.
Exactly. Exactly. So there you go. This is a miracle. Our meeting today is a miracle.
Where are we talking to you from right now?
I'm in my friend. I know this, every time I talk to you, I feel like I'm in my friend's sitting room.
Okay.
In London.
Well, what makes a sitting room? What's a sitting room?
Good question. Lots of places to sit.
And, and, and kind of no other functionality. Like we were just kind of sitting and staring at each other, you know?
You're in London.
I'm in London.
Oh, I miss you, friend.
I miss you too.
I'm talking to Aziz today and I'm having a lot of, um, I'm having a lot of nostalgic feelings today.
I feel that. I really miss, I really miss us as a, as a cast.
Same. And I, and I kind of feel like I'm in London.
I feel like we are his aunties a little bit. We are definitely.
Totally.
You, you especially. Um, but I.
It was the education of Aziz. I'm sorry. It was sort of like the alternate title for Parks and Recreation.
I know him and Plaza feel like they were babies.
Our babies.
They were our babies that we raised.
Our beautiful family. The four of us.
Before we get to Aziz, who like you, I think has a, like a very specific.
Cultured aesthetic. I'm loving the color brown that you're wearing.
Thank you so much because this, somebody told me they didn't like this color.
I don't remember what it was. And I was like, I do. I don't know why. It's like very seventies to me.
And I was wondering what you think the color of the, of the color of fall is.
I always ask Rashida these questions because she knows. She's in the know.
Well, there's a, there's a palette. Cause you know, like when you have, have you ever done your makeup?
I think you're a summer, I think.
I, I think, I think you're right. And I very, I wanted very much to be a winter. It's kind of the story of my life.
You love summer polos, but you love summer.
I do, but the colors feel a little, um, I don't know, not substantial.
Too playful.
Yeah. They feel a little, um, juvenile. And I want to, you know, and I remember looking at the palette and saying, I think I'm a winter.
And then TikTok said, no way.
No, ma'am.
They said blondies not allowed.
But, okay. So that's an autumnal color that you've got going on.
This, I would say like an olive green, a wine, like a Merlot color is very, the color of autumn.
Maybe even like a mustard as an accent.
I can't even get anywhere near those colors. They do not work for me.
And with that in mind, what do you think is the, uh, the fashion of the, of the season?
What, what should we be wearing?
Okay.
Cause we, so people should know.
Should we say that we do this?
Yeah. So every season Rashida and I, and, um, we, we try to like name how we're going to dress basically.
And it's, and it's, it's steeped in either like a country or a vibe or, or like a trend or, or like an anti-trend.
What have been some past ways that we have, we've got, we've, we've named the season?
I can think of a few, um, high school art teacher, high school art teacher, Japanese winter, tired ballerina, tired ballerina.
What's the last one that we just, that we kind of found from Tik TOK.
It was like frugal chic, frugal chic, frugal chic, right?
Like make your own salads, bring them to work.
We're the same, like gorgeous sweater.
Yeah.
Shop your closet, shop your closet.
Um, what do we think is happening this fall?
What about just like a double F, like functional fall or like, Ooh, I was just in Paris, which of course always the fashion's so good in Paris and the way that like girls wear trousers, like it just is, it's hard to describe why they look so much better on them than anybody else.
But there's like always like a front, or maybe it's front pleat fall.
Okay.
You know what?
No.
Gen Z loves their front pleats.
I know.
I don't need any more help down there to feel full.
No more pleats in the front.
Agreed.
Agreed.
Okay.
Nevermind.
How about flat front?
Functional flat front.
Functional flat front fall.
Okay.
You heard it here first, guys.
Hashtag trending.
Okay.
You know, we always like to talk well behind our guests back about our guests.
What do you love about Aziz Ansari?
Aziz is, um, he's a very insatiably curious.
Human being, he loves to absorb art, food, fashion, film, traveling.
Like he's just, he's so open to experience and I love people who are like that.
I would say that you're like that too.
And then of course, like, he's just so funny and I always want his take on something.
Um, that makes it, uh, he's a player.
It's such a pleasure to be around in that way.
Yeah.
What, um, I feel like you have, you two have probably gone and done some groovy things
together.
Like.
We've been in a lot of countries together.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I love being in Japan with Aziz cause he'll, he'll just, he'll just bust out like
the best accent and just order in Japanese.
What?
Like a full, perfect accent.
Yes.
He speaks Japanese?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
A little bit, but it's, his accent's so good that he convinces people that he's, can like
speak fluently cause he's, his accent's so good.
Whoa.
That's cool.
Yeah.
Very cool.
Is it weird that every time I hear about other people speaking another language, it, I just
feel so bad that I don't, like I make it about myself.
Fire of jealous, fire of envy.
Same.
Well, people should know that you studied French for a while.
A month?
Babe, a month more than other people.
You're unbelievable, honey.
Okay.
So, um, what question do you have for our guest Aziz today?
What do you think I should ask Aziz?
Anything you want to know?
Yeah.
I was, you know, I was thinking about something that would light him up that he'd want to
talk about.
Um, and again, as we mentioned, Aziz is an extremely cultured individual and, you know,
there's probably stuff that people don't really know about him.
Um, one thing is that he's an excellent chef and also he loves food.
So A, what's his favorite thing to cook and B,
what's his favorite thing to eat. Love that. Love that. Has he ever made anything for you?
All the time. He cooks me dinner all the time. Everything. My, my recent favorite is he makes
this thing. It's like, it's an Indian dish that's specifically for children. So I love it. Uh,
called chicken 65 and it it's, it's bright red because of the, like the pepper powder and it's
delicious. Yum. Yeah. Ooh. I want to talk to him about that. And I want to talk about kitchen
gadgets in general. I just got for myself. I like to every once in a while, get myself a kitchen
gadget so that I can continue to, uh, encourage myself to cook. I just got really long,
thin tongs, like not your, not your grabby tongs, but those long ones that you,
where you can turn a delicate, a delicate mushroom. Wow. I wish we were hanging out
together right now.
I miss you.
I miss you too.
I really want to do a TikTok dance with you.
Oh yeah. Um, listeners, Rashida sent me a TikTok dance, um, and said, I wish we were
learning this together. And I watched it and I was like, I, I don't think I'd be able to learn
it. It's 100% could do that. It looks so cool. Cause there's such good dancers, but it's a very
simple steps. You know, no one is a bigger fan. Could you do the TikTok dance and send it by
myself? I will. I'll send it to you. I'll send it to you. Just don't show anybody. I'll send it to
you.
Do that thing where you make yourself a three people. You know how you can do an effect where
you can look like three people. Yes. Let's do that. Let's maybe your team after they fix your
audio issues can help me do that. Yeah. We're going to split this in a three and you're going
to be your own backup singer. I'd love that. Best career. Thank you Bones for doing this.
So happy to see you. Miss you so much. I love you and have fun with Aziz, Zeezers. Baby Zeezy.
All right. Thanks friend. Love you. Love you too.
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I know. It's so nice to be, people don't know we're recording in New York right now in the fall.
Yeah. Wait, is this on now? Yeah, we're rolling. Oh, whoa. Okay, good. I'm glad I didn't drop any
racial slurs as I tend to do when I, when I usually see you. Right away. We usually say,
what's your favorite right now? And then I say my favorite and then we start hanging out. Yeah. So
God, thank goodness we dropped that tradition. Yeah, no, we're rolling. And all we've been
talking about is New York in the fall.
That's it. New York in the fall, baby. But when you come here, do you get like,
do you ever want to live here? Well, you still spend time here.
Yeah, I feel like I don't live anywhere. I'm always just running around. But whenever I come,
like visiting New York is fun because you come for and you get a quick hit. You do all your
favorite stuff. You see all your friends and then and but if I stay too long, it's too crazy. I'm
too old now. Yeah, I know what you mean. Your little ZZ's all grown up. I know. My ZZ is just
he's an old man now. I know. If you watch it, whatever I see old parks things. I was like,
I didn't know that me and Aubrey did a show and we were little kids. Like it's really
how old were you when you started? I was 13. And then when we finished, I just turned 18.
I got my driver's license like in the middle of the run. A lot of people don't know that you were
18 when you were playing Tom Haverford on Parks and Rec. Yeah, it is true, though. It is you. You
look like a baby.
You were a baby.
I didn't know anything. Yeah. In the first seasons, I didn't know how to act or anything. I should not
have been on television. NBC should be like, we got to get is there any Indian guy that's done
more acting? Can we get out play this guy? I want to get into this too, because it is it feels like
when we we've met each other throughout, like we've we've in a bunch of different ways in a
bunch of different places. But New York City, I will say feels like and I don't know if you've
ever been to New York City, but it does feel like you feel this way when you come here that you are
reminded of when you were young. There is a feeling here. Like if you were here when you were young,
when you come back, you feel younger or something. You remember your younger self.
You're trying to get back that energy. Remember, you remember being outlaid and all this kind of
stuff. Yeah. And because you're an NYU kid. I went to NYU and I started doing comedy then. Were you
doing comedy like in high school or?
I was in South Carolina. So, you know, there was no outlet for anything like that. You know, it was like, you know, you could dip and
spit into a mountain.
You can spit into a cup and everyone laughed.
I just drank Mountain Dew and dipped. That's all I did in high school.
And did you ever?
I rode four wheelers.
Were you in a play?
I was in plays when I was a kid. I remember there was some play I did. And I don't know what the play was, but I played like a cowboy and I was doing like a big Southern
accent. And I remember I just crushed and kids were coming up to me afterwards like, do it again. And it was like one of those things I remember.
So were you a funny kid?
Yeah, I like to be funny in class. And yeah, anytime there was anything that involved public speaking or something, I was always super comfortable.
I remember when I did like something where I was like six years old, I had to like speak in front of the whole school and I didn't like base me at all. I don't know why.
It's so funny.
Yeah. Because, okay, so when I was in school.
In South Carolina, right?
Yeah.
This is in the 80s.
Yeah.
So, you know, a lot of these people had never even seen Indian people before. And I skipped first grade. I did skip first grade and second grade. Like in the middle of first grade, they call my parents and they're like, we got to get him out of here.
He's too smart.
He already knows all this stuff. I don't know if it's this other culture you're from or what's happening, but we got to get him the fuck out of this first grade thing. He needs to go to second now.
Get him out of my class. He's embarrassing everyone else.
I did. I went there and I went to second grade and it's a little school. So like, I'm like, you know, and there's like 30 kids in each class. I grew up in a town of like 8,000 people.
Yeah.
So they're like, oh, this, this little, this little brown wonder kid. And so like, I'm on the radio and all this stuff.
Yeah, I was on the radio. There's a recording somewhere. And when I was a little kid, I had like a Southern accent because that's where I grew up.
I grew up and that's where I'm around. So I vaguely remember being, being on some radio program and I was like, my name's Aziz Ansari and I'm a first grader at Marlborough Academy.
When you're told at six that you're a smart kid, then you become the smart kid. Were you the smart kid?
I think so, but I think it kind of annoyed me in a way. Like I, I, I, like I didn't want to be painted with a certain brush. You know what I mean?
Yeah. Yeah. I bet. I bet people are just projecting a lot of stuff on you.
I was in 11th and 12th grade, which is in like a science and math school. And it's a public school in South Carolina called a governor's school. And there it's like all the smartest kids from all over South Carolina. And there I was just like this dumb kid that was like smoking weed and telling dumb stories.
And they were like, what happened? I thought you skipped first grade.
Yeah, 11th grade. You need to go back to 10.
Expecting, but yeah, they kicked you back down. Yeah. I mean, it, it, we talked a lot about it when we first met, like this idea of,
of growing up in South Carolina in the eighties as a young Indian boy, one of probably the only in your class figuring out.
Oh, definitely. Not one of the, there, there were in, in like first and second grade. I sometimes forget this. There were, there was this Thai girl. Her name was Tisha, which does not sound like a Thai name. And they used to always be like, what's up with you and Tisha? I'm not kidding. I remember there was a play in like first grade. There was like, it was a play. And for some reason there was,
it was like Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse. And it was me and Tisha. We were the stars, you know, oh, oh, diversity. No, no. Me and Tisha in Bennettsville in like 1988. Leads, leads of this mysterious play where there was Mickey and Minnie Mouse. But there was always like, oh, you know.
Were you excited in a way to expand your horizons and go to New York?
Yeah, I, I, I always, it's so interesting. I was thinking about this, you know, the fact that my dad left, you know, my family.
My family is all from the southern tip of India up until me. And my dad left India and went to, like he first came to Jersey and he was doing like, you know, residency or whatever.
And I, you know, it really, I was thinking about this a couple weeks ago, how remarkable it was and how scary that must have been to come over there and not know anything.
You know, this is before internet, FaceTime, nothing. If you're there, you're really gone. And same with my mom as well.
Did they come over together?
My dad came first and then my mom came later. But I, I was just thinking about how there was something in my dad. I asked him about this and he was like, oh, I always wanted to go. And it's weird because I grew up in South Carolina and I think I had a dad.
a similar thing where I always wanted to go somewhere you know bigger with more stuff going
on yeah you had that same like drive to see more of the world yeah and luckily I went to school in
New York which is the greatest place to be if you have that kind of feeling so when you're leaving
South Carolina you apply to NYU you apply you're like I'm gonna go to business school I yeah I
didn't know what I wanted to do this is how dumb I was yeah business seems to be the major that a
lot of men who don't know what they want to do pick like my uncle has a business I was like oh
maybe I'll start my own business and I'll major in business that's that's how silly I was and then I
get there and there's all these kids that are talking about Goldman Sachs and stuff I don't
even know what Goldman Sachs is and I'm completely confused yeah and I had friends that were in Tish
the film and television school I was thinking about switching to that or maybe the Gallatin
school where you make up your own major but I never really got it together the little combination
of laziness and and I also started doing stand-up
like the summer of my freshman year and I I distinctly remember sitting in a class in my
sophomore year and just saying I'm just gonna do something with stand-up at the least I'll be a
comedian that does comedy clubs and that that's fine for me how do you be how do you go do stand-up
you're not like what makes you go do stand-up when you're when you're in college it was one of these
weird things I was in school my freshman year and I was just sitting around and telling stories and
people are laughing someone's like oh man you should try to do stand-up and then a week later
the same thing happened and it was like one of these weird oh maybe the universe is
saying something and then I went to a comedy club I went to the comedy cellar which I still
perform it all the time and I saw a show and I was like I think I can do this and and I tried it and
I I wasn't great I did well but I was very comfortable with it and I really enjoyed it
and I just wanted to get good at it I just wanted to get better I never thought about anything
further about you know acting or any of that stuff I just wanted to get good at this and it really
goes back to what you were saying earlier where you get that high of like no I want that feeling
again yeah yeah
so I uh I started there and then uh it just kind of went from there well when we met do you remember
the first time we met I was trying to think today I mean I don't remember anything and I have so many
friends I'm like when we first meet I mean one of the first times I remember meeting you was
so the UCB theater and there was a uh Monday night stand-up show at 11 which is like a tough slot
Monday at 11 is not the prime slot but they were doing a stand-up show and um Matt Besser who was
part of UCB asked me if I would want to do a stand-up show and I said yeah I would love to do
the stand-up show and I started doing it and I was booking like my favorite comedians and I and
um I would host it every week and it really took off and I remember one week you came and I was
like whoa like you just came to see it and said hi and and that that's one of the first times I
remember that's what I was gonna say is I remember meeting you by seeing you on stage that's back
when we could all just you know sleep all day and then go to do a show at 11 o'clock on Monday night
yeah then you go on and you do
you create your own sketch show yeah we did the sketch show on MTV yeah yeah and that was kind of
like 2007 which was such a cool time for I think for comedy at the time because you had MTV and
Comedy Central and all these places like taking big risks on on green apples yeah and and Adult
Swim and all these things yeah were you on Adult Swim no but but that was around and things like
Tim and Eric and yeah and it was like here's this kind of niche
vibe let's give them a show for you know like let's see what they can do for a couple of seasons
yeah and so that that show was human giant yeah and you wrote and and what did you learn from
doing a sketch show sketch shows really hard yeah I mean you know uh that's one of the hardest things
to do because especially even just from a production standpoint you know everything
is different there's no consistency you're always doing new costumes it's new locations it's really
a hard thing to do and writing sketches is really hard but there was one sketch I
did that I I wrote uh I think you know we all kind of wrote together but it was one that I
really liked and and it was one that uh Greg Daniels and Mike Schur saw that ended and it
was because it was on YouTube or Funny or Die or whatever and and that was what got me the gig on
Parks yeah and was it Shutterbooks no it was this it was it was called Viral Videos and the premise
was me and Rob Hubel and we were on a talk show that Paul was hosting and Hubel had just made a
viral video uh and I was like oh my god I'm gonna do this I'm gonna do this I'm gonna do this I'm gonna
do this because he he did a video where he cut his penis off and it went viral and he was like
so excited I got you know two million views and then he's like oh we have this other guy his name
is you know Kevin Kriesler uh he has a viral video too and it's me and and I got like 40
million followers and all I did was just make funny faces and so he has to reckon with the fact
he could have just made funny faces that he's he's done something a little bit more extreme
and uh yeah it was a funny video and I was like oh my god I'm gonna do this I'm gonna do this I'm gonna
and um but that's what uh Greg and Mike told me they saw and they're like no way yeah because a
lot of people don't know you were the first person hired for Parks uh yeah I met with them yeah what
was that meeting like do you remember it well it was so mysterious what they were up to yeah I had
a meeting with them and I told them I don't know what you're doing but whatever it is that would be
a dream job and um and you know this was like when the office was on and Mike and Greg were both
involved in that and that was you know I was like oh my god I'm gonna do this I'm gonna do this I'm
you know my favorite show like that on the air and and so I told them whatever you're up to let
me know and then of course you know when it all came together with you and Rashida and everything
and and well I'm kind of learning when I was talking to Plaza when Plaza was here she was
uh talking about like her meeting with them too yeah yeah very famous stories yeah yeah I know
and it's kind of funny I kind of forgot the Avengers Assemble feeling of those guys going
out and and getting people and bringing them in and and talking about like we're going to do
something very cool I mean it what it didn't even feel like there was a ton of auditioning
it was more just them picking people that they thought was funny not only funny and I feel like
all of us whenever we see each other do interviews kind of say this kind of stuff ad nauseum but it's
so true but also just the best people I've ever met in my life yeah like really I cannot believe
it because we've all done other stuff and you know not everybody's you know look we've all done other
stuff I don't talk about
everything the way I talk about parks you know you do something some people it's a different energy
not necessarily mean or bad but just something like we all just clicked and there was a vibe
that worked with all of us and and and and just to pay respect to you and Mike you know when I did
Master of None with Alan and as I become a director I you know what I learned from you and Mike in
terms of how to lead um I mean I can't thank you enough it was the best role model I could ever have
seen see you know I when I started watching your podcast and so then parks clips started coming on
YouTube and when I watch it sometimes I I just think about us making it same and and the it's
funnier for me to watch the bloopers because that feels more like my experience and oh gosh some of
those things that came up I hadn't thought about in so long and they were cracking me up I saw this
clip it was it was it was I don't remember the context of the episode or whatever but
it's we're in Ron's office and me and Donna there's something called Blush and and and Ron
has decided bronze and Blush so me and Retta start just going Ron's in Blush Ron's in Blush and then
I jump on the table the bronze in Blush Ron and and me and Retta's dancing is getting crazier and
crazier and we're just doing just dancing dancing all over Offerbit doing all the crazy stuff and
they showed that that was what we shot and then they showed the scene as it aired it was just like
in Blush and it cut that's also my favorite thing it's like I mean I love trying to if I could try
to get someone to break like you're pretty good I don't you know yeah Superman's pretty high up on
that agree he never cracked up and oh man I love there's a couple of times where I almost where I
got like I think he didn't laugh but I think his mustache went up a little bit and I remember one
thing that you wrote it was an episode
you wrote I was doing that puppy voice and then the puppy started licking his mustache and I was
like I'm Mr. Ponson I like your mustache I'm just a little puppy and it all I think it almost got
it almost got you're so right I mean the the the the set the the setup there was like you had you
had a chance to play around like you got to try your stuff I mean the fact that that treat yourself
is used on you know
cocktail napkins and in Kmart and like it's everywhere and I went to some ice cream place
one time and they're like treat yourself to a sample I was like can I have a sample
I was like please don't please don't connect this
luckily the person didn't put didn't put them together yeah yeah I mean I I that's become
part of the lexicon and I can remember that moment which by the way it's so funny in that
moment treat yourself because you guys say treat yourself 2000
and I'm like oh my gosh 2011 remember that and then there was one in the future that was like
2014 it's like it's 2025 what's happening but I remember that episode deeply because
it felt like it was a great example of the writers and the producers realizing like what
made you laugh what made Aziz laugh like what would be like a what would be fun for us like
the
That's what they started doing so well.
Yes.
think they just the more they got to know us and it was such a good group that you could just be
like oh what happens we put these two together and then of course we had like the greatest people
coming in and doing bit parts and they were all just so funny and the characters another clip I
watched that and I think you know talking about breaking this was is the hardest scene I've ever
had to film in my entire acting career and it was and and and if it's it's on YouTube the the
blooper of this and it's me and you remember the scene is me and Adam Scott and we're having lunch
with Joan Kalamets yes the great Mo Collins who always is just so funny and she said we're ahead
of lunch and she says I'm gonna go powder my nose amongst other things and then she walks away and
then Adam comes to me and goes
you
Ben is supposed to say uh dude is she gonna go powder her vagina and we couldn't do it and this
is the only time I think this ever happened on parks or anything where me and Adam were like
just let's just film the rest of the stuff and we'll come back to that we'll just come back to
the because we couldn't do it and then because it's just the most absurd task because you'd be
like okay no no we got it this time okay all right all right guys ready okay amongst other
things is she oh
you know he could have said dude she had to go powder her vagina we couldn't get through it and
Mo was so funny doing it how she was like stumbling out of the table yeah yeah and then she'd add some
other thing and you're like you can't do that I just steeled myself and now you just did this
other funny thing that's not fair oh wait I love I love a blooper I love bloopers in general I love
a blooper yeah but watching these parks bloopers was after I watched your thing it put me on the
algorithm it was it was it was so fun oh and you know what I also want to just say when we're in
the in the parks and recreation world for a second my kids loved Aziz they're in their late teens and
when they see you on tv they go oh it's turkey sandwich in this so yes my kids were little when
they when I was shooting that show and they would come and visit and Aziz you're really good with
kids oh and you do a thing that they love which is you kind of like you're like you're like you're
I don't know it's funny you realize sometimes with kids with with people and kids either people
like come on too strong and just like want to want want to interact and kids are like
or they just you know they don't know or they're like hello young person but Aziz would basically
do these bits with them that would make them laugh so much one of them is you would walk by
my oldest and pretend to be on the phone with his best friend
What was his name?
Watson.
That's right.
Hey, Watson, what's going on?
No, I'm just on set.
Yeah, my oldest would just kind of listen and be like, wait, he's talking to my friend?
He was like five years old.
And the other day, you were just like doing funny bits with them.
And one day you were holding or eating a turkey sandwich and they started laughing and pointing at you and saying, turkey sandwich, turkey sandwich, whatever.
And you loved that.
I just remember you thinking it was so funny.
And the other thing I just wanted to, you mentioned like your algorithm and your phone taking you to Parks Clips.
I did want to talk to you today about your relationship to your phone.
What is your relationship to your phone now?
I try to stay off everything as much as I can.
How do you do that?
Teach me your ways.
I have. I don't have email.
I haven't had email for like 10 years.
Incredible.
Yeah.
But I have an assistant.
Okay.
All right.
But still, that means that. And there's also stuff like, you know, like I have a flip phone and if I get really lost, I got to either ask people or just call my wife and be like, hey, I'm. I don't know where I am.
I've had to do that before.
Like call my wife and to the point where she's like kind of used to it.
But what. And, you know, I hail taxis.
And if there's not a taxi, sometimes I'll call him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That one around.
So you don't use like an Uber app?
I. Usually in London, there's taxis all the time.
Yeah.
And you can hail them.
And here too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In New York.
Yeah.
Well, why do you have that kind of relationship with your phone?
It just gives me more space to think.
I mean, I heard something about like Tarantino doesn't even have a phone.
Chris Nolan doesn't have a phone.
I was like, whoa, those guys are able to get a lot of stuff done.
Maybe there's something to it.
It does feel like the eventual next step will be just that, will be people like breaking
up with their phones.
It's pretty consuming.
And yeah, but that's just me.
I don't know.
No, I relate.
And I'm genuinely asking because I feel like my relationship with my phone has just gotten
deeper and more intense.
I remember one time on Parks, you told me something about how your phone fell in the
pool or something and you didn't have for a couple of days.
You're like, this is the greatest thing ever.
Yeah.
It definitely feels like something that has taken over.
It's going to be really interesting this generation like Gen Z and Gen Alpha who have grown up,
with a phone in their hand.
I saw a Gen Alpha kid one time at the airport and they had a flip phone.
I guess it was like, because some parents get their kid a flip phone.
I don't get your flip phone.
Sure.
So I saw that and then I had mine and I saw the kid and I went like this and dapped her
flip phone and she was completely confused.
Can I see your flip phone?
God, this thing doesn't even work that well.
Wow.
But another thing is, one time I was eating in a restaurant in London.
I heard my phone going off and I checked and nothing was going on, but it was another
dude that had a flip and then we started talking and we were talking about all this and just
joking about how like, oh, what do you do when you get lost and all this kind of stuff.
And yeah, classic flip phone guy combo.
And then he said, you know, the thing I think you got to avoid now is the chat bot.
And I was like, oh, 100%.
Okay.
Let's talk about that.
The AI.
Not the AI.
What's chat bot?
Chat bot.
Or I think I'm not even calling.
I'm not even calling it right.
But the thing where you type the chat GPT.
I call it chat bot.
Chat bot.
Yeah.
But it's chat GPT.
See, I don't even know the name.
I completely agree.
I think this is like, you know, it's outsourcing critical thinking.
It's making everyone's opinions kind of same.
This is my feeling, you know?
Yes.
Yes.
And I think people using it instead of Google.
Most of the time it's wrong.
And it's just kind of like telling you what you want to hear.
Yes.
So you can keep asking you questions.
And, you know, someone showed me some commercial where it's like someone said like, no, how
do I make a dinner?
I'm going to make a dinner for this girl that makes them.
And I'm like, well, I would rather someone call someone and ask someone or maybe have
some sort of conversation, a human thing.
Like, it just seems like it's like outsourcing.
It is.
Thinking and it's like killing some bit of humanity.
Yes.
I don't know.
It kind of makes you.
I was reading some article where it said like it's making everyone a little more basic.
Oh, yeah, that's real.
I think that's real.
You know.
I have always found you, Aziz, to be a very curious person.
And who's kind of interested in why we do things like you're very interested in the
why of like why people make choices.
And I feel like definitely the last few standup specials that I've seen you do definitely
have that feeling.
And what is it?
Are you doing standup right now?
Are you out doing it at all?
I'm just been promoting the movie now, but I think I'm going to go out in after the movie
in like October, November.
And do new all new material or do some.
I've been doing stuff about like being married.
And, you know, we're trying to like have a kid and talking about that stuff.
So what's it like being married?
Is it fun being married?
No, I love my wife very, very much.
She's great.
She's the greatest thing that's ever happened to me.
Yeah, you've met her a handful of times.
And yeah, she's great.
How did you meet?
We met in London and, you know, we did long distance for a while.
And yeah, I was like, all right.
How has being married changed you?
Yeah.
And I just feel like all the other stuff doesn't really matter to me anymore.
You know, I'm just like, oh, wow, this this person is everything to me.
And just to have that person to come home to and told that that that's it kind of makes
everything else seem like it's less important.
I mean, sorry.
I love it.
Aziz, I'm so happy for you.
I'm excited to hear what you say on stage about marriage and relationship because I've
always known you.
I've always known you to be a person who's has who has a lot of love to give.
Oh.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah.
Let's get those tears going, Aziz.
Let's get those tears going.
Chop, chop.
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film which looks amazing and holy shit the cast is great and you wrote and directed it it's so good
um when you were doing master of none master of none feels like a show with alan yang that you
created yeah it feels like when i was when i was looking up and and going over your stuff and being
reminded of it almost feels like a different time in television that it was pre-covid yeah i mean
it was it's like a time capsule in new york now that show you know it's about 10 years old now
yeah we were making it and um that was when netflix first came out and this was this was a
time when netflix was like you remember people would be like oh there's a new netflix show you
know they had so few yeah and so every show got their shine and you know when alan and i made
that show the idea of like whoa this guy this guy that's got the brown face is starring in the show
like that that was like not really happening you know and um uh yeah and they let us kind of really
do what we wanted like you know when people talk about oh you know getting notes they hadn't even
hired people to give notes yet you know what i mean and then the first season did really well
so the second season like yeah just keep doing your thing and uh and and it was it was just a
radically different time and now streaming and making shows and all these things have become
much, much different. Yeah. The whole industry is so different. And I remember you guys feeling
excited about, about doing that. What was it like to leave an ensemble and then be like the lead of
a show? Well, that's the other thing about Parks is, is Parks is not only you're, you're on this
great show, but everything's taken care of. Like you just show up and you're like, drink yourself.
Good night.
See you, Zs.
Thanks so much.
Great day at work.
And that is not what you do on Masternod, not what I do on Good Fortune.
Yeah.
You have to pick, you know, people I think sometimes, you know, they're like, what is directing?
You don't really, it's kind of a vague thing.
Yeah.
And it's really, you're just deciding everything.
Right.
You know, you're like, okay, well, okay, where does the scene take place?
Okay, a restaurant.
Okay, let's go drive around and look at how many, how many restaurants, got to pick the restaurant.
What are the people wearing?
You're making so many decisions, you're crafting everything and you're there and then and you have to, you know, I'm writing everything, too.
So you have to write it and then you have to figure out how everything's going to look and make all these decisions.
And then you have to edit it and you have to make sure it all works.
And it's a much more involved process.
And just acting is a much different, you know, simpler gig.
What part of directing surprises you that you like so much?
I just love these moments where you've written something and you have your actors and, you know, you had it in your head a certain way and then someone does something a little surprising or it just goes to another level.
And, you know, when I was looking at some behind the stuff scenes for Good Fortune and I really enjoyed the stuff where I wasn't acting and I was just over the side and like, you know, it was like Keanu and Seth and they were doing something that was cracking me up.
And I was just, you know, laughing and, you know, trying not to mess up the scene.
And those moments are super fun.
I mean, there's another, there's a scene where they're like riding in a car and they were like, okay, do you want to follow them in the van, be on the radio?
I was like, oh, those radios always cut out.
I'm just going to hide in the back seat.
So I was like curled up like this and I was just like yelling jokes.
And, you know, Seth and Keanu are so iconic and like hearing them say the jokes, like the way you have it in your head, but also a little funnier.
I mean, when it really feels like you're a little kid playing, those are the best parts.
Yes, totally.
And also to allow yourself to still do that.
Because sometimes I think, you know, when you're working on anything that you created, no matter, it doesn't have to be a film.
It can be anything that you made and you like hand it over and people then start to work on it.
It's hard to not be too rigid about it.
Like you have an idea of how it's going to go and it's supposed to go that way.
And the reason why we work with other people is to collaborate.
Yeah, yeah.
And to play like that and to see what they have to say.
And I love collaborating with actors, which is something I learned from from our experience on Parks.
You know, Mike and all the writers, they would take all these little things like, oh, Offerman's into woodworking.
Maybe that, oh, he plays a saxophone.
Maybe, you know, and I've always spent a lot of time trying to get to know the people that I work with and try to figure out how to put more of them into it and try to understand who they are to help write the character better, make it feel more like them.
Let's talk about Good Fortune because that cast is, okay, so first of all, is Keanu as nice as he seems?
He's the best.
He seems incredible.
Yeah, he's the best, and he's also, he's like the sweetest guy, but he's also like the coolest guy in the world.
Like, he kind of balances both things.
Like, you know, we'll do like rehearsals at my house or whatever, and Keanu will show up like on a motorcycle.
Like, he looks like he drove from an anime movie straight into reality.
And he gets out, he's wearing like all black, he's got like a backpack from the future, he takes it off, he's got boots on.
And he's just the coolest.
And me and Seth are just like, oh.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't like that Keanu is still driving a motorcycle.
I want him off that motorcycle for insurance purposes.
Oh, he's always riding that motorcycle.
I'm like, oh.
I want him off that motorcycle.
Yeah.
No, no.
He loves his motorcycle.
Yeah.
And Seth and Kiki you've worked with before.
Oh, Kiki is the best.
You got to meet Kiki.
Kiki is one of my favorite people ever.
I have met Kiki.
You have?
I got the privilege of doing her podcast.
Oh, you did?
We did a podcast, too.
It was so fun.
So fun.
Kiki and I have had dinner, not to brag, by ourselves, just the two of us.
She's like in Australia now.
We rarely get to see each other.
She works all the time.
She's so, she is so naturally funny.
I've described Kiki.
She is a movie star.
Hilarious.
She once told me her aunt died in a way that was really funny.
And I was like, how did you do that?
I'm laughing.
And you just told me your aunt died.
She is so quick. She's so sharp. She's so talented. I mean, she's just as good a singer
and performer as she is an actress. We had this scene where me and Kiki are dancing and I was
like working with some choreographer and then Kiki's just like, oh yeah, and then just does
all this crazy stuff. And I'm like, oh. Yeah, she is. She's so talented. And I mean, the cast is
really awesome. How did you, I guess, like, how did you let everybody play and experiment on the,
Like, was it that kind of set?
Like, did you?
Yeah.
I mean, I think, look, if you cast the right people, it's all going to come together and gel in a nice way.
And, you know, I spend a lot of time rehearsing with everybody.
Okay, so you like to rehearse.
I like to spend a lot of time.
Because, you know, when you're actually on set, that is the most precious time.
When the camera's rolling, to get to that moment, it's so precious.
And you always don't have enough time, blah, blah, blah.
So the more time I can spend with these people beforehand and rehearse and kind of make sure everything sounds right beforehand and, you know, rewrite things to make it really sound like them.
Then we get on set.
There's just less.
We're already kind of almost there.
Yeah.
But of course, once you're there in the place with the clothes and everything else, you come up with new ideas.
But, you know, all those people, they're so, you know, Kiki and Seth are really comfortable with improvising.
Yeah.
And Keanu, you know, Keanu at first, I think Keanu was a little intimidated, I think, because, you know, he's not.
He's not as a comedy guy as much as me and Seth, but he got into it and he would improvise and stuff a little bit.
And I told Seth, I was like, could you imagine if like we did an action movie?
How awkward would it be?
I'm going to push back on that because I feel like we would be great in an action movie.
Because I want us to be able to do more action.
Really?
Don't you wish you could do a film where you get to just say one line a day?
Oh, yeah.
Keanu barely speaks in those movies.
That's what I mean.
You know, when I was a kid, my favorite movies were all action movies.
My favorite movies were like Terminator 2 and Die Hard.
I mean, I still love those movies.
Those are some of my favorite movies.
But I loved action movies as a kid.
When I was a little kid, I was – I mean, I liked comedy and all this stuff.
I feel like once you start talking, it's diminishing returns.
Like once you actually start talking in film, everyone's like, oh, that's how they talk.
Oh, they're saying that.
But like, but if you never talk.
Like which, are you trying to be like in a Fast and the Furious movie?
What's the action movie you want to be in?
I would like more of like a Bourne identity.
Oh, whoa.
Just walking through the streets of a European city.
I like that.
Leather jacket.
I feel like if I did that, everyone would go like, ha, ha, ha, I came on the screen.
Well, that's what sometimes people send me stuff that's more serious.
I'm like, they're just going to think I'm too silly to be this guy.
It's going to hurt the movie.
I can't do it for you.
I know what you mean.
She can't show up as the villain and people aren't going to be like, ooh.
She's too nice.
She's going to change her mind.
I do think it's amazing when people, like, decide to do a 180 as an actor
and then they play someone really horrible.
And you're just like, oh, no, we love that person.
And now they're playing this.
Some people can do it.
Even when Keanu and I, one day we were doing some press stuff together
and there was, like, a room that I was waiting in in between
and it happened to be, like, John Wick weekend.
And, like, I was watching some of the Wick stuff.
I was like, wow, I can't believe he did this
and then plays this very silly guy in my movie.
And it's the same guy.
It's really impressive.
He just also has a great reputation for being a wonderful person, Keanu.
Like, it just seems like, you know, those kind of things just get out into the world.
And he just seems like he's handled his giant fame and his, like, very long relationship.
Yeah, he's been in the game for a long, long time.
Yeah.
I mean, not.
When I was about to meet him, I did, like, a little film festival
and I was re-watching, like, Parenthood and—
Parenthood.
I just re-watched Parenthood on the plane.
It's so good.
It's incredible.
It is.
It's so good.
During that weekend, the John Wick weekend, they showed Parenthood, too,
and I was watching it in between and I was just like, wow.
Very different, John Wick and Parenthood.
Yeah, I know.
Are there films that you go back to that are, like, your comfort watches?
Like, if it's a rainy day and you're like, I'm going to put on a movie.
Do you like to watch films?
I love watching films and there's definitely, like,
a film nerd element to my life and, yeah, the movies I go back to a lot.
I love, you know, working on this and all the time when I'm writing,
I revisit, like, Being John Malkovich a lot.
Yes.
I love that.
I love Eternal Sunshine, Spotless Mind.
I love Eternal Sunshine.
Those two I visit a lot.
I love those.
And then I love watching just older movies, too.
Me, too.
I mean, I feel—
I feel like the joy of getting older is, like, looking back and realizing,
oh, there's a lot of stuff I still haven't seen, you know?
Oh, yeah.
It never ends.
I know.
I know.
I mean, that's—the thing that got me into being more diligent about watching film was,
you know, I realized, oh, all these directors that I love,
whether it's, like, Scorsese or Paul Thomas Sanders or whatever,
they've seen every movie and I was like, that can't be a coincidence.
I mean, I've got to be honest.
Sometimes it's overwhelming.
Like, the way people who make films talk about films definitely makes me feel, like,
stressed.
Oh, I had to go on, like, TCM or whatever and I was like, hey, man,
I might get some things wrong here because, like, Scorsese will be like—
And the person that did the craft services here, you know,
he was making these ham sandwiches that had this special kind of cheese that everybody loved
and Greta Garbo didn't like them.
So, for her, he would do it with turkey.
And you're like, how—
Totally.
I don't know all this.
And it's like, I don't know.
I don't know it.
I know.
It's just—and it definitely feels like that feeling, like, when you have an oral,
like, exam in school, like a quiz.
I was watching Parks and Recreation and, you know, any Polish kids call disease, I'm sorry,
turkey sandwich.
How do you remember all this, Scorsese?
I know.
It's intense.
Okay.
Speaking of food, though, turkey sandwich and food, I want to talk to you about food.
Sure.
Okay.
Before we wrap.
Because I feel like the food, your relationship to food is—is ties in to the bigger idea
of you, like, trying to open yourself up to a lot of stuff in life, like being curious.
Sure.
So, you growing up, what was the food you were eating growing up?
I—my mom would cook Indian food.
Mm-hmm.
And there was a woman that took care of us.
Her name was Miss Beulah.
And she cooked Southern food.
So, there would be, you know, Indian food, like biryani or whatever, and then there'd
be, like, chicken and dumplings.
Mm.
Incredible.
Weirdly, I think, would eat a little bit of both.
So, I grew up on Southern food and Indian food.
Okay.
And then when did you become—when did you start realizing, like, I actually care very
much about what I eat and I want to—
Learn how to cook and be a good cook.
It's interesting you ask, because I think people think of me as like, oh, it's easy,
and that was all the restaurants.
It's like, no, I actually, like, just cook at home all the time now.
I love to cook.
Yeah.
And that—I think it happened in—a lot of it was during COVID.
I started cooking more and more, and it was kind of what our day was based around.
It's like, oh, we're going to cook, because I was in London during COVID, and the farmer's
markets and stuff didn't close, and you could kind of walk around, and so food became a
way to kind of structure your day a little bit.
Yeah.
Um, but during COVID, I wanted to learn all my mom's recipes, and, uh, so I asked my mom
to help me, because Indian food's very intimidating.
Oh, big time.
And, um, but it's not as—wait, do I ever send you those cookbooks I make?
I make these cookbooks for friends.
Uh, I got to send you one.
It's all right.
No!
I'll send you all of them.
No way!
Wait, so you, like, transcribed your mom's recipes?
Not all of them, but, like, every year, like, during Christmas time, I make this—I'm so
sorry I haven't sent it to you.
I'll send it to you.
No worries.
But, uh, yeah.
I, uh—
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, I, I just—whatever I've been cooking that year.
Oh, that's great.
And I started during COVID, and then I just kind of kept it going.
Oh, that's awesome!
But, but Indian food's what I really love to cook.
What, what makes Indian food, like, for, for a person just cooking, like, hard to cook?
Why is it—
It's nothing hard.
It's just, you know, I would ask my mom, like, oh, how much of that coriander powder
did you put in?
She's like, I don't know.
I didn't—you know, and you're like, wait, but, but, and you're scared that you're going
to mess it up.
But it's not like baking, you know, where, like, oh, if you put, like, a teaspoon too
much, it's not really going to screw it up too much.
Yeah.
And the other thing that's super helpful is YouTube.
If you can—because you can watch—there's all these people in, uh, like, you know, aunties
and stuff in India that have YouTube channels, and they show you how to cook everything.
And seeing it visually makes it a little less intimidating.
Yes.
And you just got to do that first trip to the Indian store and, and get—I always think
that term's kind of funny.
That's what everybody calls, like, the Indian grocery store.
They call it the Indian store.
Yeah.
But that sounds like you're going and buying Indian people, which is not—
No, you're not.
No, no.
It's just ingredients.
Just the food.
Ingredients.
But, uh, you just got to get all the stuff, and they keep it in the pantry, and then it's
like, oh, yeah, everything's like, oh, yeah, a slice of onions and some little ginger
garlic, and then some spices, and then maybe a tomato, and then you put the chicken in,
stir it around 20 minutes, and it's done.
Yeah.
You're right.
Wait, can I tell you—so I cooked for Rashida, like, a week ago.
Mm-hmm.
She lives really close to me, and, uh, her family came over, and she brought her little
kid, and she was like—I was, like, cooking Indian food, and she was like, can you make
something for him, something not too intense?
I was like, oh, I got it.
I'm going to make him chicken 65.
That's like—it's like chicken—like Indian chicken nuggets, almost.
They're like little pieces of chicken.
Little kids love it.
So every little—and then every kid loves it.
And so I made him chicken 65, and he ate it, and then he started going crazy.
He just, like, had so much energy.
And then I realized it's because the chicken 65, they put red food coloring in it to make
it bright red, and the red food coloring has that dye that makes the kids go crazy.
Go crazy.
It got him pumped up.
Yeah.
So now, whenever they come over, I just make a bunch of chicken 65, and he goes nuts.
Well, it is so funny that you say that, because we do a thing here on the podcast where we
like to talk to somebody before the podcast.
We talk well behind their back.
Oh, okay.
And I get a question, and I just talked to Rashida.
Oh, wow.
And Rashida just told us that you made her chicken 65.
She loves it.
She was like, let's come for dinner again.
I was like, what do you want?
She's like, chicken 65.
She loves it.
And, you know, in many ways, we both—Rashida and I feel like we were—we were both—we were
your auntie at times on that show.
Oh, of course.
And I know Rashida, and you guys—like, and she was talking about, like, how, you know,
what we were talking about earlier, that you are—like, what she really respects about
you is the way that you're a curious person, always trying to learn more about yourself
and the world.
And her question was—and she was, you know, saying you're a very, very good chef.
Oh.
Chef or cook?
What would you say?
Chef?
Cook?
Cook.
Cook.
Cook, right?
Cook, a little more—yeah, a little low-key.
Chef seems like someone else has to call you a chef.
I'm not that—I'm not that good.
Yes.
I'm not that great.
If you get the right hat, you become a chef.
Yeah.
You just put it on.
But as a cook, she wanted me to ask you, what is your favorite thing to cook?
I love to cook Indian food, and I love cooking stuff.
I think there's something special about the food you ate growing up and the food your
family made.
And I think there's something—you know, one time I went to India, and I stayed for a little
extra time, and I asked my family, I was like, oh, who's, like, really, like, kind of the
mean cooks?
Like, who can I learn from?
And I stayed for a couple days with some people that were a little bit distant relatives,
like my aunt's sister or something like that.
And they showed me so much stuff, and—
They were cooking in their home and showed you?
Yeah.
That's awesome.
And just learning, like, home food that comes from your family, I think there's something
special about it, and, you know, because that's—I think that's something important to pass down.
And, you know, my own parents, you know, they're—
they're all healthy and everything, but, you know, you start thinking about their time
and just, like, oh, wow, like, it's a piece of your family history that I think is cool
to try to preserve.
I feel like you also took cooking lessons somewhere else, too.
Did you go to Italy or—
In season two of Master or None.
That's right.
That also gave me a big help to be comfortable in the kitchen, so it made it less intimidating.
But season two took place in Italy, so before we filmed it, I went and lived in this town
in Italy, and I learned Italian.
I learned Italian a little bit, and I worked in these kitchens and these places, and these
people did not really know who I was, and I was like, yeah, I'm working on a TV show,
and they're like, oh, okay, and then—
But they let me work in the kitchens, and I learned a lot from these people that were
there, and they were so nice, and it kind of gave me some confidence to kind of start
with the Italian food.
And then there was a couple of Indian things I could make, but then when—during COVID,
I really started—I had more time.
I had nothing to do, so I was just like, okay, I'm going to keep pushing this.
I always say—
I always say this.
I did not grow up cooking at all, and my—I had a busy working mom who, you know, I grew
up in the 70s and early 80s.
80. So I didn't have a ton of, you know, we didn't have like a cooking family. And I always say it's
never too late to start trying because it is very like low risk, high reward, like try a dish. And
if it doesn't work, you just, nobody knows. You can just throw it away. Like you can just, and
when it does work, you feel like incredible. Repetition is the father of learning. Yes.
Lil Wayne said that. He did. He did? Yeah. Amazing. I mean, I don't know if he was quoting
someone else. Maybe, maybe, maybe. We'll see. We'll look it up. What are you laughing at these
days? What are you watching, reading? I know you're not addicted to your phone. You have a
flip phone. But what are you, what do you do to laugh? Where do you go? For laugh? I know. What
comedy is your job? You don't watch as much comedy sometimes. You don't. And, and, you know,
when you, when you, when you come from the standup world, we all know that the way standups laugh is
they just watch each other and go, nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a different thing. They go,
yeah, that was funny. What was I laughing at recently? I know. Anything that you do when
you're trying. I just, you know, every now and then my wife will show me some silly internet
thing. She, she showed me something. It was like, it was like a meme of like a dolphin. It was like
happy. And it was like me letting the flight attendant know I'm ready for a snack. And it
was a dolphin. It's like, like just stupid stuff like that. Okay, let's look up that dolphin.
I think it's a dolphin. I love, I love a meme. Yeah. Those kinds of things. Movies and stuff.
What I'm trying to think. I know. I mean, smiling dolphin memes. I mean, I love some of those old
movies, like The Apartment. Like just those things just make me laugh so hard. You don't,
you don't go on TikTok or anything like that, right?
No, I've never really been on TikTok.
I mean, I've seen videos. I'm not like a, you know, I've seen some of the stuff. Some of that
stuff has made me laugh. But sometimes I see the stuff I don't understand.
It's not him.
It's not him.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, it's like a cookie. That's pretty close. But the one my wife sent me,
the dolphin had a better smile. I got to find it. I got to send it to you later.
Do you watch anything? Are you watching any shows right now that like is, is, you know,
uh, I mean,
it's an interesting time right now for comedy. I mean, Good Fortune is a great example of like,
there's not a lot of just straight comedies out there in the world right now.
To be like an original idea. That's a comedy that's in theaters. Like to have even one of
those three now is wild. And I, you know, Seth and I were always talking about this,
of how we wanted the movie to be theatrical and how, you know, I remember going in New York when
I was in school, going to see like Anchorman and, you know, 40-year-old version, all these movies,
and just being in like a,
back theater and just dying. And, and I think that's, that's something I miss. And I hope,
I hope it comes back and I hope more people get to make comedies and, and, um, that we get that
back because it's so much better to be in a group and laugh. You know, if you go to a live show,
you know, if you go to a live show at like a UCB or a standup tour, there's so many people there
and you don't realize how much the, the other people that experience is part of it. Like if
you come see me do standup at a theater, it's, oh man, we're having a great time. But I just
came to your house and just started doing standups. And you're sitting by,
you're sitting by yourself. Yeah. I'd be like, how did you get into my house? This is not a good
experience. This is, but that to me is like the, you know, streaming a movie and being on your
phone at the same time is like, well, not the same thing. I know it's back to the phone. It's
back to the phone. And the, the theater is still the only place where you're not allowed to be on
your phone. I love going to the movie theater. It's so fun. I'm so happy that you came, Aziz.
Oh, I, I gotta tell you, I, I, you know, when, whenever, uh, I was like, okay, we gotta do this
press tour for the movie. I was like, oh, well, I know one thing I'll be looking for.
Very much. And that was this and spend time with you. Same. Um, it's, it's, it's always a pleasure
when we get to see each other and, uh, thank you for having me. Turkey sandwich. I'm so happy that
you came. Hold on one second. Hey, Watson. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just finishing up the pod.
Um, okay. I'll see you there. No, I haven't seen Archie and Abel in a long time. I don't know. I
don't know. I haven't seen Archie and Abel in a long time. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It's never let me down.
But seriously, help.
Help me.
Help me get away from it.
Please help.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Aziz Ansari skipped first and second grade due to being perceived as exceptionally smart, growing up in South Carolina as an Indian boy in a diverse, culturally rich environment.
He developed a deep curiosity for art, food, fashion, and film, which influenced his career and personal growth, especially during his time in New York.
Aziz’s breakthrough in comedy came through stand-up and sketch comedy, leading to his role on *Parks and Recreation*, where he formed strong creative bonds with the cast and crew.
His directing debut, *Good Fortune*, showcases his collaborative approach, valuing improvisation, rehearsal, and natural chemistry with actors like Keanu Reeves and Kiki Hilton.
Aziz reflects on the importance of human connection, noting how marriage and being present in the moment have shifted his priorities and worldview.
He expresses concern about the growing reliance on AI and chatbots, believing they diminish critical thinking and human creativity.
Food plays a central role in his life, with deep roots in Indian and Southern cuisine, and he has become an enthusiastic home cook, especially during pandemic years.
Aziz emphasizes the value of slowing down, disconnecting from technology, and fostering genuine human interactions—especially through shared experiences like cooking and conversation.
Summary:
Aziz Ansari shares a deeply personal and reflective journey from his early years in South Carolina, where he skipped grades due to being seen as exceptionally intelligent, to his rise in comedy and television. His formative experiences in New York, including stand-up comedy and the creation of *Parks and Recreation*, shaped his creative spirit and sense of collaboration. He highlights the importance of human connection, particularly in marriage, and how real, grounded interactions—like cooking with his wife or improvising in film—bring genuine joy.
Aziz reflects on his evolving relationship with technology, expressing concern about the overuse of AI and chatbots, which he believes erode critical thinking and authenticity. His passion for food, rooted in Indian and Southern traditions, has grown into a daily practice, especially during the pandemic. Through storytelling and interviews, Aziz emphasizes the value of curiosity, presence, and connection—whether in comedy, filmmaking, or everyday life—as central to a fulfilling and meaningful existence.
His experiences underscore a theme of balance: between solitude and connection, technology and authenticity, and creativity and human emotion.
FAQs
Aziz skipped first grade because teachers believed he was too smart and that he already knew all the material. They called his parents to say he needed to move to second grade immediately.
Aziz grew up in South Carolina in the 1980s as an Indian boy, where he was one of the few in his class with that background. He often shared stories about his experiences growing up in a culturally diverse environment.
Aziz began performing stand-up while in college, joining a comedy club in New York. He was inspired after seeing a show and felt he could do comedy, eventually booking his own stand-up shows and hosting weekly performances.
Aziz played the character of Tom Haverford on Parks and Recreation. He got the role after a sketch show he created called 'Viral Videos' went viral, which caught the attention of show creators Greg Daniels and Mike Schur.
Aziz believes chatbots and AI are outsourcing critical thinking and making opinions more uniform, reducing human interaction and creativity. He feels they take away a bit of humanity from everyday decisions.
Aziz loves cooking Indian food, especially his mother's chicken 65, which he makes regularly. He also enjoys Southern-style food and has shared how he learned to cook his mom’s recipes during the pandemic.
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