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Well, greetings and salutations, everybody. Welcome to the Best Dan Move Relay at Show on the Planet Earth, the John Campy Show. Kind of from right here in our Quaint Little Studio. I'm, of course, your host, John Campy. And this is the show about the things that we love the most movies and movie news TV and streaming the things that give us joy. I'm joined today, a hot off of joining me for the Lanterns post game show last night. That was a doozy. Mr. Robert Meyer, Bernette, how you doing, Rob? I'm doing very good on this Tuesday. I'm very excited to do the show. Also, I forgot to put on my headphones. So I'll do that right now. Also, joining us today, of course, is our technical producer, Jonathan Voico. Jonathan, how you doing? Hello, everybody. How is everyone? Good to have you here. And most importantly, of course, guys, you guys are here. Thank you so much for being here and making our little show part of your day. And here's how today shows going to go. We're going to start off by talking about a number of pre-determined topics we got lined up for you guys. And the second part of the show is when I'm going to take your live comments and questions. If you guys have a thought theory opinion or a question you'd like me to address, first of all, you've got to be watching the show live in order to be able to do that. So if you're watching it a little bit later in the day, you can't. And as long as I deem your topic or question appropriate to be addressed on the show, you can use the Super Chat feature, send it on in and we'll address it in the second part of the show. The Super Chats are currently open, but there's already a lot of them in there, just so you know, guys, a lot of you guys threw in some questions before the show even started. So I will turn them off at some point, but for now, they are on. All right, guys, with that all down, let's get things started off. Shall we? We're going to get started off with this, broke my heart the other day of the other week when I found out that Spider-Man Noir got canceled after one season. And I thought that was a damn shame because not only did the critics like it and the audience seem to like it. I really liked it. I had my doubts. I had my doubts. I'm not going to lie, but I ended up really liking. I thought for sure we'd get a season two, but it's not. Well, anyway, the Emmys happened, of course, this weekend. And Spider-Man Noir ended up winning five Emmys, five Emmys for Spider-Man Noir. As we go over and take a look at what those were, they won for best cinematography for one-hour series, they won for best sound editing for a comedy or drama series, best visual effects in a single episode, best title design and stunt coordination for a comedy programming. So I ended up taking home five Emmys. Now, what's really interesting is if you then look at, well, that seems to be a lot for like a superhero or comic book show, it actually makes it the third most ever for a comic book or superhero based show. Of course, the Watchmen in 2021, 11 Emmys, the Penguin last year, one nine, Spider-Man Noir is now in third place having one five, one division, one three, and the boys in 2025, also one three. So that was, I mean, that's incredible numbers for them that it was able to, and by the way, I forgot to mention this too, one other little record. If you look up there at the top of this Spider-Man Noir's five Emmy wins, right under that says, those five Emmy wins is the most Emmy wins ever for a show that got canceled after its first season. Wow. Or yeah, got canceled after one season. It's never happened before. Never happened in television history that a show got canned, and it went, end up winning for that one season. It had five Emmys. Never happened before. May never happen again. So it raises the question, could it be possible that five Emmy wins might get it saved? It's possible says the screenwriter, you zeal. As we go over and take a look at this, this comes up from superhero hype, wrote, screenwriter or in you zeal said that the future of Spider-Man Noir remains unclear, noting potential legal hurdles to any revivals in recent, in a recent variety interview. The comments followed the series is five Emmys, which he said turned the ceremony into a celebration of what the team accomplished. You zeal discuss Spider-Man Noir status, Nicholas Cage's role has been Riley, and why bringing the show back could be a complicated proposition. He outlined ideas that would have moved the story beyond New York to Los Angeles or Europe and explained the historical arc from 1933 towards World War II. You zeal described the first season as closed ended and said his principal regret is not getting another project with the same casting crew. Okay, so we're talking about a situation here where if they wanted to bring Spider-Man Noir back, there are licensing issues, there are legal issues, there's a lot of hoops that are going to have to be jumped through. Listen, to be honest, it's not likely. It's not likely that we're going to get more Spider-Man Noir. However, being the eternal optimist that I am, what I took away from that interview zeal did was that he was not writing it off as an impossibility. Like he, you know, one of the things he said in another news, basically like, yeah, when you win a bunch of Emmys, he's going to spark some new and renewed discussion. There's hope. He says the future is unclear. That to me means there's hope. You know, Rob, I was very pleasantly surprised by how much I like this show. I thought the gimmick of the whole black and white thing and the, yeah, see, he went over to the club. You see, I thought the novelty of that would be cute and fun like it was in Spider-Man Beyond the Spiderverse or Into the Spiderverse. But I really expected that to wear kind of thin pretty quickly and kind of get over it. But I found that it worked. And I just found myself really enjoying. By the way, when I watched it, I went constantly back and forth between color and black and white. And I found I didn't actually enjoy either one more than the other. I enjoyed both. I was going back and forth between the color palettes. I love the fact that it's not your traditional superhero ending that, you know, he doesn't ultimately get the prize at the end. I, there's just a lot of things I liked about. It was my favorite show of the year. No, but it was a pleasant surprise to me. And again, only show ever to win five Emmys after getting canceled after one season. The third most winning more Emmys than the boys or WandaVision didn't any given year. I would like to see this thing come back. Anyway, Rob, were you surprised to see the success of Spider-Man Noir at the Emmys? And where do you put if any hope in the possibility that we may get another season at some point? Well, I, I enjoy the show like you did as well. But I think, look, the problem with this show is it clearly shows get canceled because not enough people watch them. I mean, that's, that's, that's just the way of things. And I think because this also comes with a Spider-Man pedigree off the across what would you call the spider trilogy, the, the, the first trilogy that this comes out of that that they expected even more, there was even more expectation that this would perform better than it did. And it just, it didn't get, I would dare say, it wasn't really well promoted as much as they could have. And I just think that it's academic that a show like this is good as it can be. I don't think they're going to bring it back because I don't think it, it didn't just not get the viewers. I think it really was disappointing because they expected it to bring more of the comic book audience. And I just, I didn't see many people talking about the show other than people like us. And a lot of people just, I just didn't tune in. And I don't think Emmy Awards unless here's, here's the scenario, John, where I could see coming back. If because of this Emmy, these five Emmys, if the show got a bump and its viewership significantly grew spiked, you know, and that happens a lot when they bring a network show over to streaming. Suddenly, like, look at suits, you know, suits had a huge, it had a huge resurgence after it was brought over to what Netflix. And if, if spider noir had, were to have that rediscovery based on this, and it had a really significant bump in viewership, then I could see it coming back. And I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility. But it would have to be significant, and it would have to happen relatively quickly. Yeah, I think you're right about that. It would have to, although with suits, it happened years after when off the air. But that's, that, that was an exception. That, well, that was a very, very rare kind of exception admittedly. I, this is just one of those situations to me, guys, that I just think it's a shame. I think it's a shame. I think, I think they got handed a very interesting challenge. Turn this character into its own live action show. And don't break the bank on it. And make something enjoyable. And I thought they were, Jack Houston, which you're a lot of you forget, Jack Houston was poised to be the next big A list Hollywood star coming out of boardwalk empire. And then he did that Ben, her movie that everybody thought was going to be the big star making vehicle for him. And that movie sucked in. He just kind of, for, for all intents and purposes kind of dropped off the map after that. Brendan Gleason, I just think is like, I just think he's one of the best actors in the world. It's like one of those things. What hasn't been said about Brendan Gleason? Like, I know he's, he's just the man. He's just the man. And I, I will, I, I agree with you, Rob. I think any hopes of this thing actually coming back are probably small. But I'm going to hold out that hope because I would love to see another season of this. I thought it was really enjoyable. Anyway, guys, question is for you. What do you think about this Spider-Man Noir, very quietly won on and won five Emmys? Like the most ever for a single season show that got canceled, the third most ever for a comic really probably one more Emmys than any given year of the boys or even one division, which I think is the gold standard. I mean, I would love to see you come back. Whatever you guys think about this, jump down to the comments section below and let us know your thoughts. All right, guys, with that down, let's move on to this, shall we? You know, one of the great things about cinema con every year held in Vegas in April is the little movies that you just heard a little bit about, but practically forgot or you never heard of it all that get some great presentations and one of the ones that did that. And we've talked about a few of them like whale fall and a few others, but one of the ones that really did that was this new horror movie, Other Mommy, with one of my favorite people in the business, Jessica Chastain. I fell in love with Jessica Chastain in the help. I just loved her in that. Well, they dropped the first trailer for it. The first trailer was great. Today they dropped a new trailer. And I think this is the creepiest trailer for a horror movie I've seen all year. I cannot believe how just pure straight, creepy, freaky and everything in between this thing looks. This trailer is a work of art in and of itself. The whole thing of her being in the bathtub with her daughter and talking and then starting to get a little creepy and then the other version of Jessica Chastain walks into the room. And I'm like, okay, okay, all right. And then of course, there's that great pose of her under the table all contorted and everything like that. This new trailer to me. And I'm saying this in a year that we had obsession and a couple of other great ones. I think this looks like it's going to be the best horror film of the year. Now it is of course that is a tall order and and it's just a trailer, right? We've all seen tons of great trailers to movies that end up bad. So I'm not going to get too far ahead of myself. I'm just going to say it looks like the best horror film of the year to me so far. If we go over and take a look. This is what the folks over a bloody disgusting wrote from producer James one, one of the most influential architects of modern horror and Blumhouse atomic monster, the studios behind back rooms in obsession comes a terrifying trip from the breakout genre director Rob Savage, which is totally has to be a made up name for a horror director into the darkening world of a young girl Bella who forms a relationship with a sinister entity in her home who looks unkindly like her own mother. The new trailer kicks off with a highly unsettling scene, a child is taking a bath with their mother, all seems innocent until mommy starts acting just a little bit strange and then real mommy walks into the bathroom. But how can she be in two places at once and once and which one is the child's real mommy? That's the source of all the tension and terror in play for other mommy Rob. We saw that initial presentation at Cinemacon. And I was just like what the hell is this like this looks so disturbing and so amazing. And listen, I like I said, I've been in love with Jessica Chastain ever since the help. Like I love her in that movie. I love her in everything that she's been in. Molly's game. Oh my god. Molly's game. So good. I just think this looks like a special horror film. And if it is as good as it looks, this is going to be like one of the great years for horror films, I think. Anyway, Rob, you had a chance to take a look at this brand new trailer for other mommy. What did you think about it? Well, as you already brought up Cinemacon was this movie was completely off. I had not heard of it. I didn't know anything about it until we went Cinemaconic. It was one of my favorite great surprises that at first trailer, it continued with the excitement of the actual official trailer released to the public. And seeing this today, my enthusiasm for this movie, now I'm not going to go as hard and say it could be the best horror movie of the year. But it certainly looks like it's one of the one of the best horror movies of the year. And we have had, and I've seen them all in the theater, I've seen some great stuff between obsession and back rooms, of course, but things like Leviticus or exit eight, there's been some really interesting horror, a hockum, a really interesting horror films this year. And Zach Krieger has got a new one coming out. And everyone says that I've heard nothing of friend of mine who works in exhibition who did not like any of the previous Resident Evil movies saw Resident Evil last week and absolutely loved it. And so I'm sure Zach Craigers delivered another banger and this movie, John, I can't wait I mean, when you can freak me out in a trailer, you're doing pretty good. I mean that alone, that was in the cinema con presentation and there's something so disturbing about that image like when bodies are contorted into ways they can't possibly be into in real life, you know you got something good. You're on, you're on to something that I'm just curious, Jonathan, did you have a chance to see this trailer for other mommy? I think what's incredible is beyond the scares is the fact that Jessica Chastain, like her performance, within pretty much most of the scene, she's going to be in the same room as things culminate. She's going to have to play this like demonic version of herself plus she's going to have to play the concerned, you know, mother, the actual loving mother. I mean, she's got to play off herself. I'm really curious to see how that works. I mean, I know she'll pull it off, but I'm just saying like, I'm curious to see like with her talent, like how well she does at doing that. And to do a role like this, you know, reminds me a little bit, I'm glad you brought that up, Jonathan, because it reminds me a little bit of, you know, the role in obsession, right, that Nikki had to play, that, you know, you have to have these two versions of the character and you've got to get a actress who can carry that kind of weight and Jessica Chastain is simply one of the best, and she's one who can carry it. Now, again, I am saying it up front here, guys, I understand a great trailer does not necessarily mean it's going to be a great movie, maybe it'll be terrible, but my guess, I'm going to make a prediction, just a blind prediction. I think this is going to be the best horror film of the year. I really do. I'm hanging out there. I'm holding onto that. I hope it is. I hope it is. Or I just hope it's great. I mean, even if it's not as good as one or two, the other ones, I just hope it's great. Whatever you guys think about all this, jump down into the comments section below and let us know your thoughts. Alright, guys, listen, I thought before we went any further into the festivities, we would take ourselves a second and play ourselves a little game of what's more likely. The way the game works is really rather simple. I jumped on the YouTube community tab a little bit earlier and I asked you guys to send in a few what's more likely scenarios. You guys sent in a ton of them. Jonathan's got a few of them gathered up there. So Jonathan, what do we got up first? Alright. First up from Renee, Renee, a Frazier. What's more likely here, Rob? Man of tomorrow doing 800 million plus or Minecraft to doing one billion. Oh, chicken jockey. You know what? I'm going to go with Minecraft. I've got to go with Minecraft because we're talking a billion, right? Yeah. I mean, Superman would have to be, that's another 300 million dollars, you know, to get to a super man, 800 million, or chicken jockey, one billion, oh, you know what? I'll go with Superman then. I think Superman's going to make 800 million, 800 million dollars, 800 million dollars, no, I think, I think Superman will. Alright. I think both can happen. Yeah, I don't see any reason to believe that, I mean, I also won't be surprised if neither happens, like I won't be shocked if neither happens, but I also won't be surprised if both happens. I want to say, man, if tomorrow making 800 million is the more likely scenario, but I actually think it's Minecraft making a billion. Last one just fell just a little bit short. And while I was not a big fan of the movie, to be honest with you, I know a lot of people who really liked it. I know a lot of people who really like that movie. And I think they're going to be going back with bells on. So while I don't think it's guaranteed that either will come short or that either will do it, I could see both happening, but I think it's just a little bit more likely that Minecraft to gets to a billion than Superman man of tomorrow gets 800 million. So I'll go with that for now. Alright, what do we got up next? Okay, next up, John, what's more likely here? This comes from platinum, a second season of lanterns or a theatrical movie. We want to think of Sponsor of today's episode, Price Picks. Football season is back, and if you're like me, having a little extra reason to follow what individual players are doing makes game day even more fun. That's where Price Picks comes in. Price Picks is daily fantasy, and it's incredibly simple to use. You pick anywhere from two to six players, look at their player projections, and decide whether you think they'll finish with more or less in categories like passing yards, rushing yards, receptions, or fantasy score. 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So I again, I don't think we're going to get a season two, although I would love one with how much I love this season so far, and I don't think we're going to get a standalone green lanterns movie because I don't think James Gunn is going to want to jump back and forth with the character. So, but I think it's more likely, especially if HBO loves what it's doing with it. I think it's more likely that we get a second season of lanterns than we get a green lantern movie. Anyway, Rob, what do you think? I with you. I mean, look, regardless of what anybody thinks of lanterns, I see a lot of chatter about it, both pro and con, but a lot of pro from areas I wouldn't normally have thought of that really like the show. So it's clearly getting spoken of. I don't, I can't speak to the viewership, but it's clearly caught. I'll throw in there. I just, I just saw the numbers this morning. They don't obviously don't have numbers for week five yet. Week four, again, fourth week in a row that the rate viewing rateers numbers have gone up. So they go up every single week. I mean, and here's, here's the thing, when you're talking this way, when you're asking questions like this and you're talking about viewership, what you think of the show itself isn't really, it's not really germane to this conversation. Clearly people are watching it, clearly people are talking about it. And if the ratings continue to rise over the eight episodes, and then, of course, people will continue to watch, I mean, people are obviously catching up with their shows. And people forget, and we're going to talk about this with Supergirl later, that shows, the second or third life of entertainment, pieces of entertainment, whether it's movies or TV shows, people seldom take that into account. So if you have a show that that caught some kind of a cultural zeitgeist wave, and people continue to watch it, that viewership doesn't just stop, you know, it continues on as people catch up. And they can chart even after the eight episodes air how much people watch it after it's all aired. So I think, you know, I don't know, I can't say it's not going to happen, but I think it's much more likely that a Green Lantern season two is Greenlit than them. All right. Jonathan, what we got up next? All right, Rob, is it, what's more likely here, if this comes from Cody Leach? Cory Barker wins an Oscar for Best Original Screenplay, or Indy Navarrett wins an Oscar for Best Actress. Ooh, that is, okay, you know what I think both are outside chances. But I'm going to go with Indy Navarrett because, look, when you've made one movie and suddenly your character that's being played at Halloween Horror Nights gets dismissed for playing that character too well, there's certainly something going on. And I think that I could see her winning because it's a showy performance. But that movie lived and died by that performance. And without what she did in that movie, I don't think obsession would, would have been the phenom that it became because, man, from the, even the way she would stand still in the shadows, she was terrifying. I mean, the girlfriend from hell, she's defined an archetype for the next three or four decades. I swear to God. So I'm going to go with that. I'm going to go the opposite. I actually think Screenplay has the better chance. Now, just to be clear, I don't think either will win. I don't think either will. I do think Indy Navarrett gets a nomination. I do not see her winning. But the thing that struck me most the first time I watched the movie was, yeah, her performance was insane. But I also think the performance of the dude who played bear is also highly overlooked. I honestly don't think either one of their performances work as well without being played off the performance the other was giving them, you know what I mean? But the thing, I remember the first time I watched Obsession, the thing that hit me the most was the Screenplay. Like I was just floored by it. I thought it was incredible. I thought it was really great. So again, I don't think either wins. I think both can get nominated. But if I had to guess, I think the one that has the better chance of winning, I actually think is the Screenplay. I don't see that too. Maybe winning this, but I think it's going to be the Screenplay. So I'm going to lean to that one, but it would be great if either one actually happened. All right. All right. Next up, John, this comes from Craig teaching English, a billion dollar Bond movie is more likely or a billion dollar Star Wars movie. It depends on how you frame, like it depends on the framing of the question. If it's in general, well, we've had billion dollar Star Wars movies and Craig me for wrong, but we've had a billion dollar James Bond movie too. So if you're asking in terms of the next one, like could the, what's more likely that the next Bond movie is a billion dollar film or the next Star Wars movie is a billion dollar film. I think it is more likely that it's the Star Wars movie because the next Star Wars movie is Starfighter. And it's got Ryan Gosling and it's being directed by Sean and I, it's got all these things going for it. And I think, here's the thing Rob. As disillusioned as a lot of people are with Star Wars at times, you know, I'll count myself among them. What I don't think has been lost is that there is a hunger for great Star Wars. I think there, I don't think that has gone down at all. I think belief in Star Wars has dropped. I obviously think that consistency in Star Wars has dropped and or not withstanding. But I don't think the hunger for great Star Wars has dropped. And if we get something that looks like it could be what Starfighter looks like it can be, I think there is a chance, a chance that that can be a billion dollar film with Bond. I think it's going to be, we've got a new James Bond coming. And I think for the first new James Bond, there's going to be a little bit of a wait and see i i just don't know that it's going to have this huge you know nine hundred billion one point one billion dollar at first i think there's going to be a bit of a wait and see attitude how does the new guy who's going to be playing james bond to and then maybe we can be talking about the second third or fourth james by movie like what happened with Daniel Craig can then climb to those heights and hit the billion dollar mark so i'm going to say rob out of the two i think it is more likely that's the next star wars movies one that's the billion dollar film what do you think i agree with you a hundred percent i mean look it's not that deniewel news james bond isn't going to be a really beautifully made film that's going to be incredibly exciting to watch and i i'm i'm really excited to see it but the fact is james bond is not it used to be a four quadrant i mean i i was a kid i was a kid watching james bond movies and i love james bond movies my whole life but i don't think the franchise has that anymore it's not really a four quadrant franchise where star wars remains for quadrant for kids as well as adults and i think that you know i think the combination of ryan gausling and our our our director that we know works very well with people like ryan Reynolds and we're i think we're going to get a return to the flavor the the action the adventure the swashbuckling nature the fun of star wars that is that has been missing because you know the the the sequel series was an attempt to recreate kind of the original trilogy which i think was a mistake they shouldn't have tried to they should have moved forward with something new but retained the flavor of the original trilogy instead of trying to recreate a new version of it which didn't work um but i think starfighter i i shan levy and ryan gausling know what's up and i i don't think they're going to allow that to not work because both of those men have reason ryan gausling you know his his career is coming off a big win with projectile marry and barbie and to lead into a star wars movie these guys don't they're no fools they know what's up they know it's at stake and i think i don't know why feel this way i think they're going to deliver a banger and it's going to make a billion dollars all right we got one more left Jonathan what we got next all right our final one what's more likely rob is comes from al uh forgotten island or toy story five winning best animated feature and i haven't seen forgotten island i only go by what an and john said you know because they saw it at cinema con and these were two very very infused folks who saw it and they're not shills when it comes to these kinds of things so this is a tough one but i'm going to pick not having seen forgotten i really love toy story five so did i but you know i've seen the forgotten island trailer and i saw a clip and they get to me i've seen the trailer like six times and every time i see it i'm like god i gotta see this movie i don't know why it's the friendship angle i think it's got that human element we can all relate to i'm gonna go with forgotten island i think it's gonna be big surprise here's the funny thing i don't think either one of the wins oh i think i know i know i know i will answer i will answer the which ones more likely but i i'm saying my get site unseen i'm guessing wildwood wins best animated feature okay you know what i'm with you there but in the question of which is more likely between toy story five and forgotten island forgotten island i really like toy story five i like it a lot but i went from didn't even want to see it and had to drag me to go see this free screening of it at cinema con well it wasn't really free i did pay $1,500 for a ticket to cinema con so i guess it wasn't free but and literally had to drag me to it i didn't even want to go to falling in love with it rob i want to go see it again at at comic con i went again it cut they did a special screening for it at comic con that and i'm gonna go see it a third time i i'm going to i i swore i don't do these anymore but i am gonna go to the premiere um but i i'm only going to it because i've already seen it a couple of times and i just want to go and support it you know where they're doing the premiere for forgotten island at the new lucas museum no come on yeah i don't even say no to that i know there's no way i'm saying no to that so i just want to go and support this show because i already love it i think i already love it dearly um it is it's a beautiful movie it's a special little movie but i might but i've already seen it twice i might just be going because i want to visit the lucas museum for the first time i think you're right about wildwood though dude but but just just like we say in some what's more likely's like what's more likely this one this one and we go well to be honest i don't think either will happen but i think it's more likely in this in this situation site unseen i don't think it'll either be toy story five or forgotten island i'm just from the look at the trailer i'm thinking it's gonna be wildwood but out of the two i have seen both and i do really i really really like toy story five but i like forgotten island more so i'll say out of the two it'll be forgotten island and alright guys that will wrap up today's little session of what's more likely thank you to everybody who submitted their comparisons for us to determine which was more likely keep your guys eyes open on the youtube channel when we put up a post and a call for submissions for these and maybe you'll see your scenario featured in the next what's more likely alright guys with that down let's move on to this you know coming off of the tremendous victory that was superman and i enjoyed that movie so much i just had such a great time with it and it made more money at the box office in the previous seven dce you films did and it really was that kind of initial spark that a new dc you needed then it was with great interest that we turned to super girl and boy did that movie fall on its face um both in terms of quality again i've since four i'll say it again i don't want to overstate it it was not as bad as madame web or morbius or craven but it was a disappointing bad film just was if you liked it that's awesome but to me it was a big disappointment of the film and it also accordingly really flop badly but as happens sometimes the film seems to has found a new life on streaming as according to a number of outlets right now including this one over a calm book calm it's actually doing pretty well uh this is the story over calm book calm super girl officially arrived on hbomax on september 10th and it's turned out to be a much larger success on the platform than it was in theaters super girl is presently the number one streaming movie on hbomax beating the second most popular film currently streaming practical magic of course because the sequels in theaters right now almost two to one according to flix patrol broadly speaking supergirls hbomax streaming success isn't a surprise it has been a fairly common thing in recent years to see movies that underperformed at the box office do very well on streaming platforms all right so there's a couple of things here number one i'm not surprised to hear or see that super girl is doing well on streaming after all it was a highly marketed theatrically released film which those will do better on streaming than movies that aren't so for that to move over also it's a very high profile film it's a very high profile film and so i'm not surprised to see that once it hit that especially since nobody went to go see it in theaters that a lot of people have decided to click on it and check it out so not surprised by that there is a caveat to be put on there though being the number one stream movie on hbo does not mean it's the number one streamed movie in the world right so there are that's not saying it was the number one streamed movie on Netflix or the number one streamed movie on paramount plus or on disney plus or on any of the other streaming services it was number one on hbo and that's fine for what it is but well that is good for super girl what a remind everybody that doesn't make it any money i mean i like bottom line guys that doesn't make it any money uh it's still the flop that it was and uh it doesn't add any coins to the coffers as they would say of it but here's the question i really want to ask do you really want people seeing this movie at this point knowing how disappointing the film ended up being and not being that the quality level that superman was and not being at the quality level that they really wanted it to be at this point and now you've got lanterns out that everybody's loving it's got the last time i checked lanterns it's got like a 93 percent so the vast majority of people are loving lanterns you've got a very anticipated clay face coming out that people and people are starting to get kind of stoked about manif-- tomorrow. Do you want people talking about Supergirl again? Or are you kind of like that Homer Simpson meme where he kind of slowly backs into the bushes and disparate you kind of want Supergirl to be that. So I'm I'm simply asking the question as a fan of the DCU, I'm asking the question, is that a good thing that a bunch of people are now checking out a Supergirl and HBO when maybe you just kind of want it to fade away into the background. Now that being said, that's kind of the skeptical part of me there. Rob, the one thing I will say about Supergirl is that while I did not like the film, I am still sold on Millie Alcock as Cara's or L. I'm still sold on her be playing the role like my biggest gripes with the movie, you had never really had anything to do with her performance. And I love the way she played it in Superman. I was perfectly fine with the way she played. I just didn't like the script or what they had her doing, but I'm looking forward to seeing her in man of tomorrow. And I don't think she's going to get a Supergirl sequel. I don't think that's happening. I don't think suddenly hitting some good numbers on streaming means that you're going to rethink that and go back and make another Supergirl movie. I just don't see that happening. So Rob, I guess a couple of questions for you. Number one is, are you surprised to see it having pretty good numbers on streaming? Number two, do they really want a lot of people watching Supergirl right now when they seem to be getting things back on track with their reputation when it comes to lanterns, clay face, all that kind of stuff. And do you think they still have plans for Cara and Millie playing the role moving forward? What do you see it? Well, like you, I'd really disliked Supergirl and it had nothing to do with Millie Alcock. I thought she was great. Just like you said, I thought she was a great Supergirl. I thought it was all of the creative decisions, the script, the story of the way it played out. I don't think it served Tom King's woman of tomorrow's storyline at all. The production design, the look of the movie, it was not a good looking film. It looked like it was shot through a sheen of mud. And I couldn't understand that why, why after the, you know, the bright, shiny world that Superman showed. And I understand someone's gonna know like she was in a bad mood. And, you know, like that doesn't mean you can't give us all and wonder out in the cosmos. I mean, you can make a movie about somebody that's depressed, but I want to see a superhero film look good. If you're going to take me into space, give me a little awe and wonder, you know, don't put me on the same bar on the same desert planet over and over again. I didn't like that. That said, you know, there's a lot of people in the world that aren't part of the Twitter or YouTube movie pundits fear that they, you know, they didn't roll out to see this movie when it came out, but then they sit down and watch it for, you know, if you're, if you're a, a girl in junior high school and, and you didn't see this movie and you're not particularly a comic book fan, I can see a lot of girls and their mothers tuning in and watching this movie and really enjoying it and guys too. But I think that the female audience is what's bolstering its numbers on streaming and that's the way it should be. And what I would have thought would have happened with those people they would have shown up in the theater, but the film was not well reviewed so people didn't. But now when there's no money, you know, you're not shelling out 50 bucks to go see a movie with your mom or whatever, you can sit down and watch this movie. And if they like it, if it's enjoyable, well, then it's going to get some success again. And people really, I have to say, John, our movie going sphere forgets that films, it's not like it used to be in the DVD days, but the secondary market for these films adds a lot of money to the coffers. It's not just SVOD. But when something goes on streaming, they do have based on how many people watch it and their subscriptions. They do have a formula to show how valuable this movie actually is. So do I think they're going to make another super girl movie? No. But I don't think that we have seen the last of super girl cars or or I'll play by melee alcohol in this movie. She's going to come back because just because the movie didn't serve her well, doesn't mean she can't come back and serve another movie better. So yeah, I mean, that's the thing about the streaming number. It's the reason why like a lot of people ask, well, like, why would Netflix cancel a bunch of shows when they're like in the top five of their streaming? It's because these streamers don't really care if a lot of people watch something. They care if they look at the analytics and see that a lot of people signed up to watch it. And I just don't know that anybody ran out and got HBO Max so they could watch super girl. This was my morbid curiosity or yeah, I mean, hey, or like, listen, I have vowed to myself, I'm going to I only saw the film once and I have told myself because I did this with Madam Web, I will do it here. I will. I'm going to give it a second viewing at some point. So I'm going to watch it on an HBO Max. Sure. Just to give it a fair shot and give it a second viewing and all that kind of stuff. But I just don't know that anybody was like, oh, I've been waiting to get HBO for super girl to show up on there. I think I'm going to go sign up for super girl. Hey, if nothing else, they're advertising lanterns every time you click on super girl on HBO. That's yeah, I've heard that too. So if that can bring more damage to that as well. What do you think about this? A super girl's doing pretty well on streaming. I don't know if that actually does anything for it. And more importantly, I'm not sure if that helps the DC you overall or not, but it is there. I still like Millie Alcock, though, as Kara, I could see her having a bigger brighter future in there, maybe just not in a super girl too. And whatever you think about all this guys, jump down into the comments section below and let us know your thoughts. Well, Avengers Doomsday is of course coming and we are now actually getting closer and closer and closer. It is not the 10 years away kind of feeling thing that it used to be. We're now three months out. We are three months out from Avengers Doomsday actually hitting theaters. I expect them to really start ramping up their marketing campaign here fairly soon. Now, of course, many of you guys know that they went ahead and put their tickets on sale. And now we've been getting some numbers this week as varieties reporting that get this Avengers Doomsday has already sold $50 million domestically in opening weekend tickets three months before the movie comes out again, junior salary, right? Half, yeah, basically half. No. If we go over and take a look to see what variety said, they said this, Disney reports that the next entry in the sprawling Marvel Cinematic Universe, Avengers Doomsday has already made $50 million in domestic pre-sales three months before the movie on December 18th release date, which really means December 17th directed by Anthony and Joe Russo, the movie sees massive assembly of Marvel superheroes, including the Avengers Fantastic Four Thunderbolts and the original X-Men teaming up to face their most formidable foe yet Victor Von Doom. 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I think everybody now knows the movie's coming, but I bet you there is a lot of people who do not make or watch shows like this one who don't even realize the tickets are on sale yet. And so I think by the time we get four weeks out from Doom, I think we're talking about $100 million in pre-sales, four weeks out. So that brings us to this This question, this is the most presale tickets as far out that's ever happened. It inevitably leads to the question of how big can this opening weekend be? It's already starting at 50. It's just starting. It's not starting from zero like everybody else. It's now starting from 50. And you know, leading into this, my big thing was when people asked all year, how big, how big, how big can, can do instead be. The biggest answer I always gave was a lot of it will depend on Spider-Man brand new day. Well, if Spider-Man brand new day disappoints, it's going to hinder, right? Because you know, the MCU is kind of still in the process of rebuilding its momentum. It did a bit of that with Thunderbolts, did that with Wonder Man, did that with Fantastic 4. It's rebuilt some of the momentum. Great. But I said, Spider-Man is going to be a big thing about that because if it disappoints, it's going to hurt it. I would say, if Spider-Man is really good and they knock it out of the park, I can't even conceive how big Avengers Doomsday could actually end up opening. Well, what happened? Spider-Man was amazing. I think it's the best Tom Holland Spider-Man movie yet. Not everybody agrees on that, that's fine, but my show, I'm giving my opinion on it. I think it's the best one yet. And I think that has only amped up the excitement and the hype and all that kind of stuff. I think Spider-Man's success is going to roll and be carried over into Doomsday. Rob for a long time, I said, now this is prior to Thunderbolts, prior to all that, but there was a good year to before we've seen the successful streak the Marvels had recently. That I said, yeah, Doomsday is going to be big, it's going to be very big, but don't expect it to do end game numbers or don't expect it to do even infinity war numbers, right? Don't necessarily expect that, it's going to be, I think that's out the window now. In as much as Spider-Man already just broke a record I thought maybe would never be broken with having a $360 million opening weekend, I'm at the point now with the success of Spider-Man. And looking at these numbers, already 50 million and tickets sold like three months out. I think we're talking about the newest record holder, I think it's going to exceed 360 million. I don't think, I simply don't think there's enough movie theater seats in North America to hit 400 million, but I do see it, I think now I'm of the belief it's going to crack. And again, some of this will have to do with what the first reactions are, is the response to it good, does word of mouth come out from the critics that the movie's good or is it bad? Because obviously that hurt Supergirl as well. But I mean, that notwithstanding all other things being equal, I think we're talking about a $370, $375 million opening weekend, the likes of which we've never seen, I just think it's going to be off the chart. Anyway Rob, you see these numbers, we've never seen numbers like this before, this far out at any rate. What do you think are you surprised by those pre sales numbers? How do you think those are going to continue to track? And then ultimately, how big of an opening weekend, do you think we're talking about now for Avengers Doom say? Well, I mean, look, we're coming off of four very, very, very successful films. And the Russo brothers returning to Marvel and teaming up with Kevin Feige and McFeely and all of these characters. There was, I think at first, the idea that they had to pivot away from Kang and we know all of these things and people were dubious about this movie. But I think as we've moved closer to it, it seems pretty apparent that, you know, I don't know if any studio has ever put more into a movie to please the crowd than Marvel is doing with Avengers Doom's day. I mean, they're pulling out all the stops. And I think the more that we've seen of it, I mean, obviously at first we got these strange character trailers. I mean, they weren't strange, but they didn't tell us much. But I think there is a huge hunger for this film. And I think people now have come around on it. And they're like, well, it's coming. Let's hope it's as good as Infinity War and Endgame leading into the hype that's going to be secret wars. And I'll take something else, John. I really think that Marvel's year this year had a big, a big hand in pivoting any kind of trepidation people have. I think coming out the best thing in the world, coming off a Spider-Man, you know, there's some people that are mad and I like it that much. No, the world loved Spider-Man. The numbers don't lie. People like this movie, a hell of a lot. And Marvel is back, baby. And we've got Vision Quest coming and we've got leading up into Doom's day. So Spider-Man is the greatest booster rocket a movie ever had to send it into the stratosphere. So I think, I think Doom's days in a huge place, a great place. And like you said, I think it's going to have a monster opening. Now I can't, it has to be good, but I can't imagine this movie not at least being a really good time at the movies. I mean, you could type, but Langley don't care about me for care. It's where the anglic characters, I mean, I mean, I mean, instead, I don't buy into that. I think that people know enough the fact that this movie is a huge swing, the X-Men, the Avengers, Thor, Steve Rogers, Doom, I mean, what's not to love if you're a comic book movie fan? And I think as we move closer, I think people are going to, it's like Dr. Strangelove or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb. Well, it might as well put an ad line, you know, Avengers Doom's day, how I learned to stop worrying and love Doom's day. I mean, because people are going to embrace it as we get closer, the hype is real. There's some channels that make Doom's day videos every single day, you know, and I think this movie is going to be gigantic. Do I think it's going to, did you say what, 360 or something? The current record is 360. That's Spider-Man brand new day. That's the current record. That's currently, you know what, it wouldn't surprise me if it broke that. Although I think it's a tall order because Spider-Man is a different level of magnitude because people love Spider-Man on a whole different level, but it is a possibility. These pre-order numbers don't lie. Somebody in the chat said it's going to make one black Adam on opening weekend, which is 393. Oh, for the entire, the entire gross of black Adam, yeah, the entire, not black Adam opening weekend. No, that was 67. And you know what, look, there is, of course, the Doom 3 aspect of this, but I simply believe this. I think there's a lot of people are just going to see both opening weekend. I really do. And look, whenever I bring that up, I will hear John, not everybody has the money to go see two movies on a weekend. I don't discount that, I don't, but in a world where you can get a movie ticket for 15 bucks, this is the same world where people dropped near $100 to pre-order GTA 6, like $100 to draw. I don't know that I want to hear people say, you know, John, there's just aren't people who have money to go see two movies when that's $15 ticket. And yet GTA 6 pre sales has done like $3 billion in pre sales. Now, of course, that's nearly a hundred bucks a pop. But still, like I, I think people in three months, most people, most people who want and are interested in seeing Doom 3. And I think a lot of them are going to buy two tickets and just go see both. I really do. I know I'm planning on seeing both. I think most people really are and I don't think that whereas I was initially somebody who was not real, not real comfortable with them releasing Doom 3 and endgame or a Doomsday on the same day, I have been one over to the idea that we're going to get the barbenheimer effect. I think we're actually going to see both movies do better than they would have otherwise. I am. At this point, there's nobody that can convince me that one will leach off the other. I just don't believe that in this climate and with how audiences are now trained for these massive two screen movies that either is going to leach off the other. Yeah, I think if anything, they're just going to kind of the momentum is going to buoy each other. And that was what they were hoping for. And I was critical of it at first, but the more I see the way people talk about and everything I've been one over, I've had my mind changed by everybody on this. So I don't know. It's going to be interesting to see anyway, guys. Question is for you, what do you think about this? They're saying right now that here we are three months out and Avengers Doomsday has already set a record of selling $50 million domestically alone in pre-sales tickets. Will that equate to a brand new opening weekend record? It's going to be very, very tough. And by the way, don't just ignore the fact that Doomsday is coming out on the same day. That could be a factor. Anyway, whenever you guys think about it, jump down into the comments section below and let us know your thoughts. All right, guys, with that down, let's move over and start taking your live comments and questions here, shall we? And I'm having a- But small problem bringing them up right now, I will work on that. Let me just get things started here though before we bring them up on screen. All right. The first one comes us from KW Garrett who writes, "Love the Emmy wins for remarkably bright creatures. What is Widow's pay and have you seen it? I guess it must be good with 14 wins." Yeah, we just had enough to cover today that we didn't talk about all the Emmy stuff like that. The Emmy results tomorrow, but yeah, man, big wins for Widow's Bay, which won 14 in one best comedy series. I, Widow's Bay is funny. It's a funny film or it's a funny show, but I'm not sure I would qualify Widow's Bay as a comedy overall, but whatever. I guess it's more of a comedy than the bear was. Anyway, then of course the pit, again, won for Best Drama Series. Big wins for them. Then, of course, we talked about the fact that Spider-Man Noir ended up winning 5, Alice and Janie won for the diplomat. A lot of big wins will talk about them tomorrow, but yeah, Widow's Bay, I thought it's a really good show, man. Widow's Bay is a really, really good show. She'd absolutely go check it out if you get a chance. All right. Let's see. Next up. Sorry, I just have a small technical issue on my part here. Who do we got? We got the Refugee. Who writes? Who writes? Well, I'm a huge fan of Tom Cruise's movies, and as such, oh, as much awards hype as Digger may get, it's just not the kind of movie I'm interested in or care for. And maybe that sentiment from others is what's tracking, is what's making it tracking for such a low opening. But here's the thing. I just don't get it, Refugee. And again, this is the beautiful thing about the subjectivity of film. To me, Digger looks amazing. I just, I was in love with it the first time I saw some footage from it. I just think it looks really entertaining and really sharp. And yeah, I mean, obviously that's so for those of you who missed it, we talked about it the other day. But the new Tom Cruise movie, Digger, is tracking right now to be the lowest opening weekend for Tom Cruise movie in almost 10 years. And I think you got to go all the way back to like 2017 for I think with the movie was called American Made, which is a movie I quite liked, by the way. But you have to go back nearly 10 years. And to me, that is shocking because I think this movie looks great. I'm really excited for it and I thought more people would be excited about it too, but maybe more people like yourself and oh, I might have fixed this are like you, Refugee, and just looking at it and it's just not clicking for them. And it is for me, but I hope it does better than that because I think the movie just looks really, really good. All right, let me see if this fixes the problem here, guys. I might have found the issue. Let me see if this brings it up. And it does. Okay, great. Thank you, Refugee. Thank you, Refugee, that very much and thank you for supporting us on that level. All right, let's keep things going here. Next one up comes to us from X-Men Superfan, who writes, "When do you think that for the films, that for the films, Wonder Woman needs a drawback or kryptonite in a physical way or something that stops her?" No, not really. Fans often say she deals in ideas and diplomacy, so her struggle should be moral or philosophical, but do you think she needs something that can physically stop her instead of ideals and morals? Oh, what is your, I guess that was only two, two, I thought it was, okay, I thought it was one of three. All right. No, I don't think Wonder Woman needs a kryptonite because she's not Superman. Superman and characters on that level, you have to give them a weakness. Wonder Woman can be outfought. Wonder Woman can be overpowered. We've seen this in the comics and stuff like that, right? She can be out combated, she can be outpowered, she can be outmaneuvered. Not by many, but she can be. She's not on that level of Superman, she's a more interesting character that way than Superman, which is like, you've got to come up with major galactic level threats to be a problem for Superman. If you want Superman to have any real problem on Earth, nine times out of 10, you got to go to kryptonite. So you have to come up with something like that for Superman, right? Wonder Woman simply doesn't need that. Wonder Woman, her own limitations as a character give natural storytelling potential to it. So no, I don't think Wonder Woman needs any kind of a kryptonite thing. All right. Kade Connors writes, "You see the new Avatar, Seven Havens trailer, I have not. If you did, how do you feel about it?" Again, I didn't. I love Avatar, and this new trailer looks good, and it looks like three episodes every week, not all in one day. That's good. I'll be honest with you. I don't even know what Avatar, Seven Havens is. Or at least I don't remember off the top of my head, Kade. So is this an Avatar as in a James Cameron Avatar, or is this an Avatar as in Avatar, and Avatar Korra kind of thing? I don't know. Guys in the live chat, you know, is it an Avatar, James Cameron Avatar, or is it an Avatar, An Avatar, Korra kind of Avatar, because I don't know off the top of my head if you guys know it. Oh, it's a Korra Alexander saying it's a Korra sequel series, a Korra sequel, okay. I loved the original Avatar of the last airbender. I was not a big fan of the, what was Avatar, what was it called, Legend of Korra or something? I wasn't a big fan of the Korra one to be honest with you. I don't know if a sequel series to Korra is all that interesting to me, but who knows, hopefully it's good. Hopefully it's good. All right. Let's keep going here. Next up, we've got Remar, who writes, "Didn't think a year ago, Doomsday could have the same hype as Infinity War, but Spider-Man brand new day being so good has completely changed opinion," again, I still think Infinity War, man, it's just that Marvel was in such a different place then, right? Marvel could do no wrong, everything was at 10, everything was moving in positive direction. I just don't know that it can get the same level of hype as Infinity War, but the hype for it is building exponentially for Doomsday, and I think you're right about that, obviously Remar, that I think Spider-Man brand new day has done a lot to kind of buff up that interest. So we'll see how that goes in the remaining months. All right. Next up, Xerox writes, "Welcome back, John. Thank you. It's like the ending of Superman II when he comes back and returns the flag." Also, do you think the rock as Apocalypse is likely? No. I don't see any reason in the world why you would go out to get to Wayne the Rock Johnson to play Apocalypse. There's just, there's no reason to do that. You can literally have any good actor play Apocalypse, because to do Apocalypse properly, like I'll do respect to everybody who loves practical outfits the most, I respect that, but if you're going to do Apocalypse, he's going to have to be CGI, because they tried doing him an X-Men Apocalypse in like practical and costume thing, and I thought that looked hockey, that didn't look like Apocalypse to me. If you're going to do Apocalypse, and because it's that case, there's no reason to get to Wayne the Rock Johnson to do it. I like to Wayne the Rock Johnson. You all know this, but I don't see there being any reason why you'd get to Wayne Johnson to play Apocalypse. So just, to me, Xerox, there's just no reason for it. All right. Rich Reviews writes, "A TV show that I'm excited for is an anthology series war on HBO Max coming in October. The first season has two law firms deal with the fallout of a divorce between a techno, a tech bro, and an actress. I'm not familiar with it, but if it's on HBO, I'm just going to assume it's going to be great. And obviously, with my legal background, I'm obviously always like shows that have legal aspects. I'm a sucker for legal shows, totally a sucker, which is part of the reason why I was so excited for She-Hulk and was ultimately so disappointed in it. But yeah, I'm a big sucker for it, so I'm going to keep my eye on that. Thanks for putting that on my radar, Rich. All right. X-Men's super fan writes, "What is your opinion of George Clooney's an actor, world class, absolute world class actor?" Bobby Jackson writes, "Based on your Transformers, the movie feelings, I take it you won't be going to watch the apology tour screening of the movie this week. I will not. I am not giving Hasbro one more red cent dollar for that abomination of the movie. Whose only purpose was to screw over the kids who collected the toys religiously and say, if you kids were going to kill all your favorite characters, now you get to buy all new toys. Listen to me guys, that was the only reason that movie was made. The only reason that movie was made was to fuck over kids who faithfully spent all their allowance money to buy all the Transformers, just to kill them all off in the first 15 minutes and make kids feel like they have to go out and buy all the new toys. F Hasbro for that." So no, I will not be going to support that movie in theaters. I will not be going to support that. All right, Bobby also writes, "With the box office numbers and attendance of this year so far, can we officially say that attendance is back to pre-COVID numbers or not yet?" It depends on how, that's a really good question, Bobby. It really depends on how you look at it because the numbers. kind of say we are. But Spider-Man brand new day and the Odyssey alone, just two movies accounted for four billion dollars of the box office so far. Now great, we now have five billion dollar movies this year, right? I mean, so we had Michael, we got the Mario movie, we've got Odyssey, we got Spider-Man brand new day. What was the fifth one? There was the fifth one. What was the fifth billion dollar film? Why am I freezing on it? We've had five billion dollar films. Guys, we are Michael, we've got Toy Story. Thank you, Toy Story. I knew it was one of the family films. So we've had five billion dollar films this year so far. We're going to get at least one more, maybe two. I think there's an argument to be made that you can say we're back. I'm not comfortable saying that yet. I want to see how the year ends out. But you're not wrong. I think the math Bobby says you're not wrong if you say it. You're not wrong if you say it. Anyway, all right. Thomas B.D. L. writes, Silo finale was insane. I'm talking battle of the bastard's good. It's the second highest rated episode of any Apple show. I'm curious what did Anne think and hasn't seen the finale yet. But she is watching Silo religiously. But we've had a very busy couple of days going back to early to late last week. I don't think she's watched the finale yet. But Anne loves Silo. I still have not started season two. Now I, I really like that. Again, as one of those weird things says I really like season one. I, I, I'll go as far as I say, I love season one. I've, I've never gotten around to watch the season two. So I clearly have not watched season three yet. But Anne loves it. And I know she's looking forward to watching that finale. Thomas, all right. Quantum of Zen writes. One to three. Welcome back, John. Thank you. You're absolutely missed. Was it just a week? It was only a week. But you gave us great explanations as to your reasons. And then he sends in a $20.00 super chat. Thank you. Quantum who writes, you're right that is important that we all take a step back from time to time and understand the landscape of the internet and what we're participating in, especially if like you, we find ourselves leading a community that it's kind, it's that kind of depth running in the background of your movie topics that keeps me watching daily. Oh, thank you for that. I'm glad you're here to raise the bar just by being you off. Thank you, man. That's incredibly kind of you to say. I, I appreciate that very, very much. Yeah. Again, let's, as the, the other week was reminder, the internet can be a really nasty place. And when, and you know, I, I think people lose a sense of decorum when you get to be anonymous keyboard warriors, right? Like people, we just, I think, here's the other thing too, because I've caught myself. Let me be the first to admit, I think I've been as guilty of this as anybody. All right. So I'm going to throw myself in with this as well. I think people don't even act like themselves online sometimes. I've caught myself leaving a critical statement to somebody behind the anonymity of a keyboard and stuff like that that if I step back and look and say, well, wait a minute, if I was talking to this person face to face, would I have said this like this? Would I have said these were, or maybe I would have expressed the same thought, but would I have said it this way? Or would I have been more thoughtful in the way that I said it? Would I acted more like myself when I said it? And I just think that this is the lesson for, I mean, it's one thing for us to say, oh, yeah, it's all those trolls out there, all those nasty people out there. But I think the truth is same for all of us. I think when we're on the internet, I think there's a lesson for all of us to learn that, hey, are we actually acting like ourselves the way we would normally act if we were talking to people face to face the way we interact online? Or do we feel free to just be a lot more nasty and not a lot more critical, lose our sense of decorum? I think that's something for all of us. I think we've all been guilty of it. And I think I've been guilty of it too, to be honest with you. Anyway, just something for us to think about. All right. Thanks for that quantum. Next up, Rich Reviews sends in a $20 super chat. Thank you, Rich. Appreciate that, man. And Rich writes, have you seen the trailer for the next Netflix film, The Mosquito Bowl, directed by Peter Berg? I have. It tells a story about a famous football game set in the Pacific, many of whom a year later would fight in the battle of Okinawa. I have seen the trailer for it. I didn't fully grasp it, to be honest with you, and I only watched it the once, because I know it is coming. But listen, I'm a fan of Peter Berg. I think he's got a very distinct directorial style. I even like him as an actor. Like I like it when Peter's in movies as well. But it just because he's directing it and absolutely has my attention. So I'll be checking out when I get a chance. Thanks a lot for writing that in rich. And thank you so much for supporting us on that level, man. That's very generous of you. Thank you. All right. Next up, Peter Rodriguez writes, welcome back, John. Missed you. Thank you. What do you think James Gunn will do if Warner Brothers is sold? I think he's leaving. Do you think he stays on to run DC or goes back to work with Marvel or do you think he will do his own original movies? You know, well, I've talked about that a lot over the past number of months. I actually made an entire editorial video on James Gunn and why I really do think that if the Paramount deal goes through and by the way, settlement talks are going to happen, I think if Paramount gives up enough to come back within the confines of the law, which the current deal breaks the law, that's a fact. It just does the current deal for Paramount to buy Warner Brothers breaks the law. A judge has already kind of given their opinion on that. But if they can come have settlement talks and if Paramount can compromise enough and give up enough things, I think they can reach a settlement and they can get this deal closed. So that being said, I still believe, you know, James Gunn has not told me this. No insiders told me this is just me as a fan totally speculating on my own. I think James Gunn leaves. I don't think he I think he rides out his contract because he's under contract into 2027 and then I think he's going to leave. I don't think he wants to work with those people. I again, I could be totally wrong. I'm just that's just me giving my own speculation. Now, once he leaves, I could totally see him going back to work with Kevin Feige because him and Kevin Feige are so tight at Marvel and probably then become the heir apparent at Marvel to take over for whenever Kevin Feige does decide to move on to a bigger challenge. Or I could see him just going, you know, I'm just going to create my own banner and I'm just going to make my own films and let other studios get into bidding wars over my movies. Who knows? But yeah, I personally think that if the deal does close, I think he's going to go that again, I'm not saying that is a fact. That's just me guessing. I'm just guessing. So I could be right. I could be wrong. We'll find out. But that's what I think. All right. Thanks to that Pedro. Next up, Lauren Howard writes, "Can you think of any two actors that can recreate trading spaces today and it be as successful?" Well, I mean, the first thing that should be said, Lauren, is the most important part would be the script because I don't care what two actors you put in there. If the script isn't a great script, it's not going to be good, right? What two actors could I see taking in the place of Eddie Murphy and Dan Acroid for trading spaces? Huh. Okay. Y'all are going to hate me for saying this. You're totally going to hate me for saying it. But I guarantee this movie makes 500 million at the box office if they do it. Kevin Hart and Dwayne The Rock Johnson. Yeah. I know. I know. I know. We've had enough of those two together. I get it. Oh, John, you know, the Rocks, not the Rock used to be. I'm the one who's always saying that. I totally agree. But I think you do a trading spaces reboot with Kevin Hart and Dwayne Johnson. I think you get some people out to see that. I could say, um, so I'm going to walk, uh, walkers, right? Does trading spaces need to be done again? Dude, no movie needs to be done. There's no movie that has ever existed in the history of film that needs to be done. So does it need to be done again? No. The question is, would there be an audience for it? And I think my friend, if you made another trading spaces movie, because let's, let's be honest, a lot of people today haven't seen it. It's in as an older film. But you do a new trading spaces today with Dwayne Johnson and Kevin Hart. I bet some people go to see it. Um, I, I could say a Ryan Reynolds and a Ryan Gosling, but But I already want to see Ryan Reynolds and Ryan Gosling do a strange brew remake. For all my Canadian friends, can you imagine a strange brew remake with Ryan Reynolds and Ryan Gosling as Bob and Doug McKenzie and Eugene Levy as the brewmeister. Eugene Levy as the brewmeister. But for one, be another good one for trading spaces. Paul Walter Hauser and Yeh-Eb Dool Matin. How's that? That would be kind of a fun one too. Anyway, great question, Lauren. All right. Next up, Crusher writes, "I saw the mystery movie. Yes, I heard about this. I saw the mystery movie yesterday. It was playing Forgotten Island. Hold back tears. It was colorful, delightful movie. Give it an A. I heard afterwards that the mystery movie was Forgotten Island. And I wish I had known because I would have been telling all of y'all to get out to go see it. But it's coming out in a couple of weeks. Make sure you go see it. Forgotten Island. Wonderful little film. I mean, some of you might not like it because it's art, art is subjective. Movies hit us all in different ways. Maybe you'll like it. Maybe you won't. But I truly loved it. I think it's a really special film. And I hope you guys give it a shot. All right. Thanks for sharing that, Crusher. Joey writes, "Go to see Tony if you haven't. Go to see it in two weeks early before it's release." And it has the bones to be an Oscar contender in my opinion. I disagree. I did watch Tony. And I thought it was okay. I did not think it was great. Antonio Benderas is amazing in it. I also think the kid who played the lead was really good. Yeah. I just thought I was hoping for more. Yeah. Because I was really excited. I see this movie that's that period of Anthony Bourdain's life. I was just kind of hoping for more. But again, I don't mind that I saw it. I thought it was pretty good. But I did not think it was great. I certainly don't think it has any Oscar potential. Other than Antonio Benderas may be his best supporting actor. He was incredible. But listen, if you're an Anthony Bourdain fan, I do encourage you to watch it. I think you're definitely going to get something out of it. I was just kind of hoping to be honest with you, Joey. I did not like it as much as I was hoping I would like it. I'll see you with that. Again, not a bad film. I just I was wishing I liked it more. That's all. All right. Thanks for sharing that, Joey. Next up, unknown beer man writes, "Bot tickets for end game on core in IMAX and got an email. They've been canceled due to the Odyssey's extended IMAX run. Ah, seems unfair to cancel the screening and not refund the convenience fee." Oh hell no. They didn't refund the convenience fee. F that in its f'ing face. No way. Is that true? Now first of all, I understand if schedules change and you got to cancel screening and you refund people, I get that. That's totally fine. But if you get charged any amount of money for a product or for something or a service that you don't get delivered, they should absolutely refund that to you. I'm wondering if that was a mistake on their part. I'm wondering if that was a mistake because it's their screening and they charge you a service fee for a screening that you were purchasing a seat for. And if they cancel it, they should not be allowed to keep your money. Again, there has to have been a mistake. There has to have been a mistake because you absolutely should get that refunded. Otherwise, I'm going to start selling, I don't know, bottles of the Deadpool brand of Aviation Gin. And I'm going to sell them for $1 a bottle, right? And oh, oh, oh, but you know, I'm only selling for a buck for a Aviation Gin Deadpool bottle. But there's also I'm charging a 75 cent convenience fee. Okay, well, $1 bottle. Damn, I'm going to sell four million bottles, right? Four million bottles. That's $3 million in convenience fees. And then I'm going to say, oh, sorry, guys, I got to cancel the orders. Got to cancel the orders. Here's your $1 back. But I got to keep the convenience fee. Like that's again, that has to have been a mistake. They have to pay you back. Anyway, all right, Francisco sends in a $24 euros. Super chat. Thank you, Francisco. One of two, John, there's a wild, obviously, unconfirmed rumor, doom, kill, Steve, son, and well, we're not going to talk about any of that. Sorry, we're not going to talk about any of that stuff. I appreciate super chat, but we're not going to discuss potential big spoilers for the movie. So, yeah. All right, Eric Ortiz writes, "Rewatched Spider-Verse movies still amazed by the film. I still think Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse and Spider-Man beyond the Spider-Verse or Cross Spider-Verse are not just the best animated Spider-Man. They are the two best Spider-Man films, period. I think those two Spider-Man movies are the best Spider-Man movies, period. You know, I love Spider-Man brand new day. I think it's the best of the Tom Hall and Spider-Man movies, but Spider-Man beyond this or Spider-Man across Spider-Verse and particularly Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse, I still think those are the two best Spider-Man movies, period. Anyway, Dapper Alligator writes, "Where are we? Sean the sheep, 100% of rotten tomatoes. Sean fan rise up." Yeah, I don't think a lot of people are going to go see it, but I like Sean the sheep. So, I hope it does well. Thomas writes, "House Kyrie versus Acme Box Office has been doing. He's been doing really good for a movie that's still going to lose about $35 million. It has almost, by the way, I love this movie. I love Kyrie versus Acme. It's almost made back its production budget, which still means not counting marketing, not then counting theater cut. It's still about $35 to $40 million in the whole, which again, it's just, yeah, it is what it is. It's just the loony tunes do not dry out audiences they used to go, but you should all check out Kyrie versus Acme. It is a wonderful film. I completely enjoyed it. All right. Oh, no, no, no. It is not about to break even. Somebody's saying, "Oh, it's about to break." No, it is not. It's about to make back its production budget, but this movie needs to make in the neighborhood of, I think in the neighborhood of about $100 million to break even, because there's not a cheap movie to make. It was not a cheap movie to make. So anyway, there's all that, but guys, go see it. It's really good. Like more of you guys should go see Kyrie versus Acme. It's a totally delightful movie. You absolutely, no David is saying $50 million budget. No, it had a $70 million budget. Catch up entertainment bought the distribution rights for it from Warner Bros. for $50 million. But the production budget on Kyrie versus Acme is $70 million. Anyway, we can go into all the details of that, but that's neither here nor there right now. All right. Josh Mulanari writes, "Hey, John, from New Mexico, and going to be in San Clemente in two weeks, was lucky enough to score tickets for Odyssey in 70 millimeter IMAX nice at the Irvine spectrum. That is a great IMAX screen. How is that theater as far as experience wise go? You know what? I love, love, love, love, the Irvine spectrum theater. The whole theater, like the IMAX screen in there is great, but the whole theater is wonderful. Whole theater is wonderful. Yeah, it is a wonderful movie going experience going to the, you know, I don't go there much because it's a little bit of a drive for me. It's about a half hour away. I got my AMC theater. That's just ten minutes away, but I, I love every time I go to that theater. It's a really great one. I hope you have a good time there, Josh. All right. Let's see. Next up here, we've got Tyler, who writes, I didn't see Endgame and theaters originally. That's too bad. There's still some okay seats for IMAX near me. Would you say definitely IMAX for me or any other format? I, IMAX isn't even my favorite format. IMAX, I love IMAX. Don't get me wrong, but my favorite format is a Dolby theater, particularly an AMC prime Dolby with the leather recliner seats, that dual laser projection, the Dolby Atmos surround sound. I love IMAX, but you don't need to see it in IMAX. I think there's other really, really great formats that you can see it in, but I would see Avengers Endgame in theater at least once. It's really a film you should see in theaters at least once. All right. Next up, Francisco. Oh, again, I've got, well, actually know what here, let me double check to see Francisco's dropping another spoiler or not. I know it wasn't on purpose, Francisco, but okay. Yeah, yeah. This one's okay to read. All right, Francisco writes, also I was really disappointed Spider-Man noir got canceled. Do you think the rumored $400 million budget played a role or did dropping all eight episodes at once hurt? it's hype. A weekly release could have kept people talking longer. Well listen, first of all, I don't believe the $400 million. If you've seen Spider-Man Noir, you know, there was not that that show did not cost $400 million to make. All right. There's just no way that cost $400 million. I don't buy that for a second. I mean, I don't have access to the books. So maybe in some wild world, they were spending 10 times more money than they should have, but I just don't see that being a reality. However, to the other part of your question, it is not an opinion anymore. It is demonstrated proven fact. If your show is good, you get much better results by releasing the episodes week to week. Guys, there's so much data proving that now that that's not saying you need to prefer it that way. That's okay if you prefer to have everything dropped at once and binge it. That's fine if you prefer it that way, but the data proven fact is that a show that's good will perform much better if it's given week to week releases instead of dropping it all at once and a 100% 100% I think Spider-Man Noir would have absolutely benefited from week to week. It would have had the same. I'm not saying it's as good as lanterns, but what are we seeing with lanterns? The viewership every week is going up because people keep buzzing about it and getting other people to jump on board and start watching the show and it's growing. When you drop a show all at once like the way they did with Spider-Man Noir, you don't get that opportunity. Anyway, yeah, there's that. I absolutely think it would have benefited from that. All right. Let's see. Ramell writes with NFL back. Who do you think takes it all this year? I'm going to go with Buffalo Bills. I think Josh Allen is going to hit the peak of his powers this year. I think it's going to be Buffalo Bills. All right. Again, it's only week one. Ask me again if week five. All right. Mitch writes, "Seen buddy yet. I did not get out to see buddy. No. It's been sticking with me since cheers from Vancouver." No, and it's one that really interested me, but again, you know, Ann and I took off for the weekend. I didn't have a chance to go see it. It's been kind of busy around here and I saw a bunch of other movies. Didn't get a chance to see buddy, but I know Jonathan Voico saw it and he said it was really quite good. He enjoyed it. So I do want to see it at some point. All right. Josh war writes, "Great to see Ridley Scott as finally as stride as a director." Only took him to 80 to do it. It was good to see him finally catching his stride. Sean Lopez writes, "Hey, John, glad you're back. Also just want to say thank you for making my birthday last year when I got to meet you at the Burbank movie meetup." Oh, that's awesome. The Burbank movie meetup was actually a lot of fun. Let me take a peek here. I don't know that I still have them. Oh, let me see if I've got it here. I'm not sure that I do, but hopefully I do. Let me see if I can find this. The Burbank movie meetup. I'd love to see if I can find which one it is. Actually, maybe if I do it this way, I'll be able to find it more or find it more easily. Is that the Burbank one? That's not the Burbank one. I'm sitting here wasting everybody's time going through seeing if I can find the Burbank movie meetup picture, but I cannot seem to find it. I'll stop wasting time. Is that it? That wasn't it. Anyway, the Burbank movie meetup was a lot of fun. That was a really, really good one. It was the first movie meetup we kind of did in home in my own home court, so that was kind of fun. It was really great because we took our big group picture out in front of the big Batman statue. That was great. Anyway, thanks for dropping the note. Sean, I appreciate that. That was a really good night. All right. Next up, Terence writes. Lots have been talking about endgame breaking international box office. However, did you notice it's about 80 million from breaking US box office over brand new day? Yeah. So me and Christian talked about that on yesterday's show. So it is possible that endgame can actually re break the record, like catch Star Wars, The Force Awakens, and then pass Spider-Man brand new day to be the highest grossing domestic box office movie. But it's currently tracking to do about 20 million on its opening weakness. I don't know if 80s in the cards for it. It's possible, but it seems like that might be out of reach out of reach. I should say so, but we'll find out, Terence. All right. Tundee writes. You don't know how much you love someone until they're gone. I was scrambling like a drug addict looking for my fix of movie news, but no one comes close to your greatness. So glad you're back. Love you off. Thank you, man. That's incredibly nice. Hey, listen, I will be the first one to tell you there are some really terrible blogs and podcasting YouTube channels out there that pose as movie blogs and podcasting YouTube channels. But what they really just are our culture war and hate rage bait channels that they just put on a costume like a wolf and sheep's clothing. They pretend to be that, but that being said, there are also some really great. We're very lucky as a movie community that there's also some really great movie channels out there. There's some great podcasts, some great blogs, some great YouTube channels out there that do a great job covering movies and movie news. I am just I'm not the only one and I'm very lucky that I get to be a part of that. And so yeah, there are some other great ones too out there, some really, really good ones. And I hope you find some of those and become a part of their communities as well. But I really do appreciate the kind words, man. That means a lot to me. So thank you so much for that. Tundee, appreciate it, man. All right. Next up, we've got X-Men Superfanner writes. Do you think the DCU is border lining in perfect casting because when I think about it, Superman, Lois Lane, John Stewart, alleged Wonder Woman, Amanda Waller, and so on is some of the best comic book movie casting. Look, Marvel, Marvel has done a remarkable job with their casting, but like remarkable job with their casting. They really have, like I remember a lot of people in these Starlord is Chris really? Really? He's he's Peter Quill, Chris Pratt, the guy that the chubby kid from Parks and Rec, and yet he was perfect in it. This unknown Chris Hemsworth is Thor perfect in it. When they got Chris Evans, like the guy who played Johnny Storm is going to be Captain America. Can you even imagine? They've done great. But listen, I will say this too. DC has done a really good job so far. The new DCU has done a very, very good job so far when it comes to their casting. Again, I didn't like the Supergirl movie at all, but casting Millie Alcock as Kara, I think it was brilliant. And I think she's, she did. I don't think there's any other actress you could put in that role that would have made Supergirl the movie any better, right? Because she didn't come up with the lines for it. She didn't make the story. I think your casting has been great. I'm not going to call it perfect, and I'm not going to say it's been on the level of Marvel yet, because Marvel has just been doing it a lot longer, but they've done a really, really good job so far. All right. Nuzza Lloyd writes, "My love goes out to you guys and everyone in this community. I'm battling a lot of stuff right now. I'm sorry to hear that, dude, but this show is always what gives me joy all the way back to the Collider Days. Thank you. Aw, I'm so glad for that." And that, you know what, that is one of the great things about being able to do this show and being a part of the community of the show is that, like, I hear from so many people that watch our show live quite often, and just say they just love being able to chat with everybody as the show's going on, and it just makes it a fun place to be. It's one thing to hear this loser nobody in a converter garage running my lips, but when you can actually have a community that you can interact with, and hang out with, and chat with, and share ideas with, and all that kind of stuff, that's what makes it really, really special. And I'm glad you're able to be a part of it, and I'm sorry you're struggling with whatever you're struggling with, but I'm glad you that this community can be a bright spot in your day. So thanks for sharing that, man. Thank you for that. All right. Next up, "Attack of the Mushi." Just says, "Sending love is all." Thank you so much, "Attack of the Mushi." Appreciate that, man. Disney gifts by Bryce, right? "Carrity made its money back." No, it did not. I don't know who out there is saying that, but obviously y'all are listening to it, and it simply has not. It just simply hasn't. That's a fact. It has not made its money back. Like, if you're talking about just what the production budget was, they might have, but that's still a long way from breaking even. Like, a movie making its production budget back is a long way from making its money back. That's a big, big difference. anyway, uh, but you should go see it because the movie's freaking great. Anyway, do you still think it would have, uh, it would have had, hmm, do you think it, do you still think it wouldn't have had? They released it like normal or did they make its money due to everything around it? Well, I mean, again, it has not made its money back. Just be clear about that. Um, but part of the reason, absolutely, a part of the reason that it's made as much money as it has is because of the controversy. Like, Cairo versus Acme is as good as it is whether there was the controversy or not. But if Warner Brothers had just done the traditional thing, had the movie spent the money on a, on a traditional marketing thing and put it out in theaters, it would not have made as much money. I think the fact that they shelved it and then it went through all this drama and then they sold the rights to it to catch up and this whole campaign of save, coyote versus Acme. I think that has propelled its box office. This movie was not going to make this much money before that it has now. Now, it still has a long way to go to break even. Still has a long way to go to break even. Um, because you know, let me just look this up quick, just so I get a better sense of the numbers. Um, uh, versus Acme. There we go. Okay. So just so I can get a better sense of the numbers. So it versus Acme. Now forget the $70 million production budget. Okay. Catch up entertainment spent $50 million to get the distribution rights from Warner Brothers. On top of that, the initial number was 10. We've now found out that the actual number is 15, which is still really low. They then spent 15 million dollars on marketing it. That's a very tiny, tiny, they should have spent more on marketing the film. They should have spent more, but they spent all their money getting the rights to it. Still. So that's $65 million. Now, of course, then you have to remember that when you get the box office, you got to remember that the movie theaters keep about a third of that. Okay. They keep about a third, which means if you want to get, uh, specific about it, if you take and where is my calculator, there it is. So if you take the $50 million that catch up spent on it, plus the $15 million that they they spent marketing that's $65 million. You multiply that by 1.5. You're now talking $100 million. Kite versus Acme needs to make, and we're not even talking about Warner Brothers is $70 million. They spent on making it. We're only talking about just catch up entertainment, bought the rights for 50, spent another 15. With that being said, Kite versus Acme needs to make to break even for catch up entertainment $100 million. Needs to make $100 million. Right now, and it's pretty much getting close to being finished. It's theatrical run now. It's still well short of that. It's about $35 million in the whole. It's made 65 million. It needs to make right around $100 million to break even. So as a theatrical exercise, they're still quite, quite in the whole. They have not broken even. They have not made their money back. And I don't know why more people didn't go see it. I had my pants charmed off by this movie. Now granted, not everybody's old enough to have grown up with loony tunes like, like I did, but this is a funny, relevant, kind of smart, charming, surprisingly emotional in places. This is a wonderful movie, a wonderful movie that more of you need to go see. I know it's now dropping out of theaters left and right. So maybe it's not going to be in a theater close to you, but I urge you, I urge you, my film loving brother. And if you have a shot to go see Coyote versus Acme in theaters and it's still near you somewhere, go see it. Go see it. It's just a, it's just a, it's just a charming wonderful little movie, just a charming, wonderful little movie. You should all give it a shot if you get a chance. Anyway, okay. That down. Last question of the day comes to us from Mr. I who writes my prediction for other mommy. The normal mom is the other. I mean, that's the obvious twist, right? The normal mom is the other because the kid is a demon as well. Oh, that's interesting. So the mom in the tub is her real mom. That's possible. I mean, but that's kind of the same twist from us, right? Remember us, which I didn't like, to be honest with you. Love Jordan Peele, but us just didn't do it for me. But the big twist was the other one was actually the real one, right? That was the twist. The other one, the other Lupita Nguango was actually the real one the whole time. It's been done that could be what they're doing in this one. It could be, although I have a hard time believing that they're going to say this is the real mom. But if they turns out that the kid itself is a little bit of a demon, maybe that could be an interesting twist. But again, I, they kind of did that little twist with us. And I just don't know that they'll do it again. But hey, man, if that is what they do in the movie, I will remember that you said that. I will remember that you said that if that ends up being the twist in the movie. And all right, guys, that will do it for today's installment of the John Campy Show. Thank you so much for being here and making our little show a part of your day. Hey, big special. Thank you to the thousands of you guys who've been here in the live chat. 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