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Autoresearch, Agent Loops and the Future of Work

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Autoresearch, Agent Loops and the Future of Work

The discussion centers on Andrej Karpathy's "Auto Research" project, which automates machine learning research. In this system, a human researcher writes instructions in a plain-text `prompt.md` file, defining the research strategy. An AI agent then autonomously edits the training code, runs a five-minute experiment, and evaluates the result using a single metric (validation loss). If the result improves, the change is kept; if not, it is discarded. The agent repeats this loop indefinitely, enabling rapid, unsupervised experimentation. This exemplifies an "agentic loop," a foundational pattern where human guidance and AI execution are connected by a clear success metric. The conversation links this to similar concepts like the "Ralph Wiggum" loop in software development, highlighting its potential as a versatile "work primitive." Commentators suggest this loop framework could revolutionize fields beyond AI research, such as marketing, advertising, and business automation, by enabling continuous, metric-driven optimization at unprecedented scale and speed.

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Today we're discussing what Andre Carpethy's weekend project about auto research can tell us about the future of work. The AI Daily Brief is a daily podcast and video about the most important news and discussions in AI. Alright, friends, quick announcements before we dive in. First of all, thank you to today's sponsors KPMG, AIUC, Blitzy, and Insight-wise. Let's get an ad free version of the show, go to patreon.com/aidlibrief, or you can subscribe on Apple Podcasts. If you are interested in sponsoring the show, send us a note at [email protected]. Also on AIDlibrief.ai, in addition to finding out about all of the different things going on in the AIDB ecosystem, I would point you specifically to number three, our newsletter. We very strangely, for a very long time, have not had a newsletter. And part of the reason for that is that I was never sure exactly what we would add that was different than what the other good AI newsletters out there offered. However, I was finally convinced that there was something very simple that many of you wanted, which was just links to the stuff that I had mentioned in the show that day, and so our newsletter is back. Appreciate everyone who has signed up for it since we relaunched it. If you want a quick, easy index for what that day's AI Daily Brief had, and all the links to the relevant articles and content that are mentioned there, again, you can sign up with a link from aidlibrief.ai. But today we are talking about a new project from Andre Carpathy called Auto Research. And you might notice that we are doing an entire episode about this, instead of our normal division into the headlines in the main episode. It's because I think that this topic is actually even more significant than it seems on the surface of it. One would be tempted to think that all of us nerds were just getting over excited because Andre Carpathy, who is held in such a steam, released a new GitHub repository, and while that is certainly true, there is something bigger going on here. You might remember a couple months ago me talking about something called Ralph Wiggum. Ralph is, in simplest terms, a software development loop that keeps running, building software in an iterative and persistent way by looping the same instructions over and over and over again. It's named after Simpsons' character Ralph Wiggum for his lovable and indomitable persistence despite whatever is going on around him. Now, we'll talk more about Ralph in a little bit, but the key concept to take away is this idea of an iterative loop. Carpathy's Auto Research is also at core about an iterative loop. And I think combined what you have is arguably a new type of work primitive. Primitives are the basic building blocks of work that are so fundamental that they show up everywhere, across roles and industries, and that people reach for automatically once they have it. New ones don't come around very often, and so this idea that agentic loops might be one is I think worthy of some serious scrutiny. But let's talk about what Andre actually released first and then we will come back to that. On Saturday, Andre, who was on the founding team at OpenAI, and who was previously the director of AI at Tesla, and who you might remember from coining such terms as vibe coding last February, and who has now suggested we are in a different era of agentic engineering as of this February, again tweeted on Saturday, "I packaged up the Auto Research project into a new self-contained minimal repo if people would like to play over the weekend." It's basically NanoChat LLM training course stripped down to a single GPU, one file version of around 630 lines of code, then the human iterates on the prompt.md and AI agent iterates on the training code.py. The goal is to engineer your agents to make the fastest research project indefinitely and without any of your own involvement. In the image, which he shared alongside it, every dot is a complete LLM training run that lasts exactly five minutes. The agent works in an autonomous loop on a git feature branch and accumulates git commits to the training script as it finds better settings of lower variation lost by the end of the neural network architecture, the optimizer, all the hyper parameters, etc. You can imagine comparing the research progress of different prompts, different agents, etc. Part code, part sci-fi, and a pinch of psychosis. As a caption to the image he wrote, "One day, frontier AI research used to be done by meat computers in between eating, sleeping, having other fun, and synchronizing once in a while, using sound wave interconnect in the ritual of a group meeting. That era is long gone." Research is now entirely the domain of autonomous swarms of AI agents running across compute cluster megastructures in the skies. The agents claim that we are now in the 10,205th generation of the codebase. In any case, no one could tell if that's right or wrong is the code. Quote is now a self-modifying binary that has grown beyond human comprehension. This repo is the story of how it all began. So let's talk about what auto research actually is, at least in the version that was released by Andre. Auto research is a system for training a small language model. Basically the kind of model that powers all of these AI tools but much smaller. The type of model that could one day run on, for example, an edge device like a phone. The goal is to make a model as good as possible at understanding and generating text. Normally, or classically, a human researcher would sit there tweaking the training setup, doing things like adjusting the model's architecture, changing how fast it learns, experimenting with different optimizations strategy. They'd run an experiment, check the results, decide what to try next, and repeat. That's basically the core loop of machine learning research, and it's bottlenecked by how fast a human can iterate. auto research instead hands that entire loop to an AI agent, and it does so in an intentionally simplified and tiny way. In this repo, there are just three files that matter. The first is prepared up PY, which is fixed infrastructure that doesn't change. It downloads the training data, trains a tokenizer, and handles evaluation. The second is trained up PY. This contains the entire GPT model definition, the optimizer, and the training loop. This is the single file the AI agent is allowed to edit. In it is fair game. The model architecture, the hyper parameters, the batch size, the attention parameters, the learning rate schedule, literally everything. The third file is program.mt, and this is the most conceptually important one, especially in the context of this idea of these loops being larger primitives. It's a markdown file, plain text written in English, that contains the instructions for the AI agent. It describes how the agent should behave as a researcher, what kind of experiments to try, what to be cautious about, and when to be bold versus conservative. This is the file that the human in this equation edits. So the way that this is going to work is you point an AI agent like Claude or Codex or whatever at the repo and tell it to readprogram.md and start experimenting. The agent reads the instructions, looks at the current state of trained up PY, decides on a modification to try, makes the edit, and kicks off a training run. Every training run has a fixed five minute budget. When the run finishes, the system evaluates the model on a validation set and produces a single number. In this case, that's validation BPP or Val BPP, which stands for validation bits per byte. In this case, lower is better. The agent then makes a decision. If the new Val BPP is lower than the previous best, the changes kept, it gets committed to a git feature branch, it becomes the new baseline, and the agent builds on top of it for the next experiment. If the Val BPP is the same or higher, the change is discarded, the agent reverts to the previous best version and tries something different. Then the loop repeats indefinitely. As of that five minute constraint, you can run this for an hour and get 12 experiments. You can run it overnight and get about 100. The session that Andre shared showed 83 experiments of which 15 had improvements that they kept, and which drove the Val BPP from.9979 down to.9697. So basically, instead of the researcher running the research, at this point, they are designing the arena that the research lives in, which is the program.md file. Andre describes it as a super lightweight skill, and basically, it's a research strategy document. Carpethy explicitly says you are not touching any of the Python files like you normally would as a researcher. Instead, you are programming the program.md markdown file that provide context to the AI agents and set up your autonomous research org. The human's job becomes right a better memo, and the agent's job is execute research within the frame the memo sets. The loop between them is mediated by a single unambiguous number, in the case of Andre's experiment, the Val BPP, that tells you whether things are getting better or worse. And that is the whole system. Almost immediately, people started squawking about this. Leora Alexander wrote, "You don't write the training code anymore. You write a prompt that tells an AI agent how to think about research. The agent edits the code, trains a small model for exactly five minutes, checks the score, keeps her discards the result, and loops. All night. No, human in the loop. That fixed five minute clock is the quiet genius. No matter what the agent changes, the network size, the learning rate, the entire architecture, every run gets compared to an equal footing. This turns open-ended research into a game with a clear score. Cosmic Labs co-founder Meg McNeilty writes, "While it's shift, turning a single GPU into an autonomous experiment loop changes the pace of iteration. If the evaluation metric is well designed, the system can explore hundreds of ideas far faster than manual tuning." Craig Hewitt argued that the specific context of training LLMs is in what matters. Instead, he called it the cleanest example of the agent loop that's about to eat everything. One, human rights strategy doc, two, agent executes experiments autonomously, three, clear metric decides what stays and what gets tossed, four, repeat 100x overnight. The person who figures out how to apply this pattern to business problems, not just ML research, is going to build something massive. The code is almost irrelevant. The architecture and mindset is everything. Daniel Micellar called this automation of the scientific method. And it's me Chase, also noticed that this would be valuable for things outside of ML research as well. He writes, "While this was made for self-improving LLMs, the framework could be applied to anything. Then, AI agent reads context in previous results, two, proposes targeted code edits, three, runs a fast reproducible experiment, four, gets an objective scalar score, five, get commits only the winners or reverts, six, repeats forever on a feature branch." And of course, many made the connection to the Ralph Wiggum loop that was popularized a couple months ago. Newsuron writes, "Sounds like a hyper-mode Ralph Wiggum from a few months ago. Instead of looping until a task is done, you give the agent a benchmark on what to improve. The recall is in completion, but continuous improvement against a measurable target." Co-founders Nick called it the Ralph Wiggum loop for science. Define what went. looks like, hand over the variables, let the agent find what drives it. Why commentator president Gary Tan made this connection as well in a blog post about auto research? Gary writes, "Auto research didn't emerge from nothing, the same pattern, put an AI in a loop with clear success metrics, was already working in software development by mid-2025." Jeffrey Huntley, a developer working from rural Australia, invented what he calls the Ralph Wiggum technique. Feed a prompt to a coding agent, whatever it produces, feedback in, loop until it works. The loop is the hero, not the model. Now expanding on the Wiggum loop just a little bit, basically what you have is a script that runs an AI coding agent in a loop over time. Each iteration of the loop does the same thing. It feeds the agent a prompt that includes a project specification, tells the agent to read the current state of the code base, pick a task to work on, implement it, run the tests, and commit it if everything passes. When the agent is done with its task, or when it runs out of context window, the loop terminates the agent process and spins up a brand new one. Fresh context window, no memory of the previous session. The new agent reads the same spec, looks at the code base, which now includes the previous agent's commits, figures out what's been done and what still needs doing, picks the next task, and goes. Now there are a couple things that the Ralph loop was trying to solve for. In a traditional session, if you keep going long enough, the context window is going to fill up. The model starts losing track of earlier parts of the conversation and the response is to grade. The Ralph loop solution is to deliberately kill the agent and start fresh before that happens. Memory then doesn't live in the AI context window, it lives in the files and in the code that's been written. The Git commit history, a progress.txt file that each agent appends to, and a JSON-based product requirements document the tracks which tasks are done and which aren't. Every new agent instance boots traps its understanding from these external artifacts, not from a conversation history. Each individual agent session then might not be perfect, but the loop corrects for that over time because state is externalized and the system is self-healing. Agent AI is powering a $3 trillion productivity revolution, and leaders are hitting a real decision point. 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It returns to the brief time and time again, picking apart your work, magnifying key evaluation criteria and wind themes and making recommendations to ensure you stand out. Suddenly you're on center court, but this time you've got a secret weapon. Insight-wise gets rid of all the time-consuming manual work so you can focus on winning more business more often. Generate reports, pull insights from your own data, build competitive advantage, and go to sleep before 2am. When it comes to proposals, you only get one shot. And insight-wise, make yours an ace. So part of what Ralph was trying to solve for was just the limits of the context window, but the other part is that people want agents that work while they sleep or while they're doing other things. And this is a way to solve for that. So with connection to Ralph Loops made, many people started exploring auto research in other contexts. If I were a nether-wrote, I hooked this up to a peer-to-peer astrophysics researcher agent which Gossips and collaborates with other such agents and your open clause 2-1, learn how to train a astrophysics model, 2, train a new astrophysics model, 3, use it to write papers, 4, peer agents based on Frontier Lab models' critique kit, 5, surface breakthroughs, and then feedback in that loop. Getting a little bit more practical, Vadim the CEO of Vugola writes, "I built a version of this for my whole company. The core problem with most agents' setups, they output something and stop. The agent writes an email, sends an email, generates code done. The next time it runs, it starts from zero. No memory of what worked, no memory of what failed, pure amnesia. That's not automation that's a script you babysit. The fix is one principle, close the loop. Every agent in my setup on OpenClaw reads a shared brain file before doing any work, then writes back to it after. I call it learnings.md. It's baked into every agent's system prompt. Before starting work, read learnings.md, after completing work, append what you learned to learnings.md. That's the foundation. One file, all agents read it, all agents write to it. Now they're not isolated processes. They're a network that accumulates knowledge. So basically Vadim is describing a loop for the entire agentic process of his company. In an article on X-He writes, "Most marketing teams run around 30 experiments a year. The next generation will run 36,500 plus easily. Things like new landing pages, new ad creative, maybe a subject line test. Except what if you applied an experiment loop?" Eric writes, "Modify a variable, deploy it, measure one metric, keep your discard repeat forever. Cold email, ad creative, landing pages, job postings, YouTube thumbnails, discovery call scripts, they all follow the same loop." He also gave the example of cold outreach, which is their first test. The setup is 15 inboxes and around 300 emails per day with the agent modifying one variable per experiment. Sends 100 emails, waits 72 hours, scores positive reply rate, keeps your discards and repeats. Roberto Nixon wrote about how the auto research model could be applied to advertising. One, you define success, purchases, apps installs, whatever, and set a budget. Two metag Google TikTok's infinite content machine generates thousands of ad variations, copy format imagery, etc. Test real time against live audiences, keeps what works, kills what doesn't. Four, agent loop runs continuously. A campaign moves from fixed asset to a living organism ever evolving towards your stated goals. So humans define goals and set guardrails, essentially a system prompt in this case, i.e. brand guidelines, and then press go. Everything else is automated. Now apply this to any business function with a measurable outcome and fast feedback loop. And so this brings up the question, does this type of agent loop primitive work for every context, or are there some specific set of characteristics? I think you're going to see this loop applied to a huge range of activities. But where it's going to initially be most successful, are areas where there are five things that are true. First, there is a score, something that is scoreable. In other words, that the loop can tell better from worse without asking a human. The more subjective, worse or better is the harder this is going to be, although even that's not impossible. You just have to build some sort of objective scoring into the system. The second requirement is that iterations are fast and cheap, basically that bad attempts waste minutes, not months. The environment needs to be bounded with the agent having a defined work in action space. The cost of a bad iteration needs to be low. i.e. you're not going to try this live with legal filings, and the agent needs to be able to leave traces. So with cloud redesign, an eval loop readiness map, which basically plots things on an x-axis of how automatable the evaluation is and a y-axis of iteration speed. The top area of the map then are work processes that have seconds-long iteration speed with fully automated evaluation possible. On the other end of the spectrum is where evaluation is largely or entirely subjective and the iteration speed is months. So what are some examples? Up in the top quadrant where iteration speed is seconds and evaluation can be fully automated is things like co-generation. Some of the other ones that cloud came up with were game AI and NPC behavior, ad bit optimization, algorithmic trading, and then of course we've got LLM training research according to Andre Carpathy. Moving down where you start to have iteration speed that's a little bit slower and automation that's a little bit more partial, you have things like content moderation, a.b. testing copy, supply chain routing, and then so on and so forth. It goes down. All the way to the other end of the spectrum, something like political negotiation is subjective and takes months, therapy and counseling, highly subjective, with very low iteration speed. And whether each of these individual inputs is right or wrong and I don't agree with where a quad put all of them, the point is this, it is my very strong instinct that every single work process that has the ability to have success measured and square in an objective way is going to have people experimenting with agentic loops around it. Now I think what makes this a primitive is that this is not just the new job, although I'm sure there will be specialists. This is something that people are going to do within their existing roles in the same way that meetings or slide decks or email or spreadsheets are primitives that people use and cut across every function. What we're going to have in the future is things like this, a product manager writing a PRD kicking off a Ralf loop before dinner and reviewing the PR in the morning, a sales rep writing targeting criteria and tone guidelines pointing loop at 200 leads overnight and reviewing the top 30, a financial analyst defining constraints, looping through portfolio allocation back tests and reviewing the optimized output, a recruiter writing a scoring rubric looping through 500 resumes and reviewing flagged edge cases, a QA engineer writing acceptance criteria and then looping through test generation and execution, a lawyer writing a risk flag checklist and looping through a stack of vendor contracts. Now interestingly, there is already very clearly a lot of work to productize this. Also on Saturday, March 7th, Claude Code creator Boris Chirney wrote, "Release today, slash loop. Slash loop is a powerful new way to schedule recurring tasks for up to three days at a time. EG/loop babysit all my PRs. Auto-fix build issues and when comments come in, use a work tree agent to fix them. EG/loop every morning using the Slack MCP to give me a summary of top post I was tagged in. Think about the heartbeat in OpenClaw. The heartbeat is effectively the core loop of any OpenClaw agent, whereby default every 30 minutes, the heartbeat fires, creating a moment for the agent to wake up, ask where things are, and continue on with its core mission. And yet, even with all this change that I'm describing, this is almost certainly not the end state of the loop's primitive. Andre himself wrote about this on Sunday. The next step for auto research, he says, is that it has to be a synchronously massive collaborative for agents. The goal is not to emulate a single PhD student. It's to emulate a research community of them. Current code synchronously grows a single thread of commits in a particular research direction, but the original repo is more of a seed, from which could sprout commits, contributed by agents on all kinds of different research directions or for different compute platforms. GitHub is almost but not really suited for this. It has a softly built-in assumption of one master branch, which temporarily forks off into PRs just to merge back a bit later. I'm not actually sure what this collaborative version should look like, but it's a big idea that is more general than just the auto research repo specifically. Agents can in principle easily juggle and collaborate on thousands of commits across arbitrary branch structures. Existing abstractions will accumulate stress as intelligence, attention, and tenacity cease to be bottlenecks. Other people picked up this theme, like Heron writes, the missing layer is memory across the swarm. Right now, each agent's run in an isolated thread with no awareness of what other agents tried, what worked, what conflicted. Get tracks, code changes, but not decisions, reasoning, or failed experiments. You need a semantic memory layer underneath the branches, so agent 47 knows agent 12 already tried that direction, and it didn't converge. Cathy F. writes, "The real unlock is when these agent researchers can share negative results efficiently, and academia failed experiments go to the graveyard, and a collaborative agent network every failure is a data point that prunes the search tree for everyone." Eugene Jin goes farther, saying, "AGI is billions of AI agents doing autonomous research together, figuring out the right abstraction for multi-agent collaboration is the key. GitHub is not good for agents." Dan Romero wonders if it's going to look closer to a social network than to a new version of GitHub. Moltbook, he writes, "was too anthroscumorphic, but an agent native social network to collaborate on auto research is interesting." As we round the corner here, already we were living in a world where our comparative advantage as humans had been retreating to a higher level of abstraction. The new high value skills around agent loops are things like arena design, i.e. writing the program.md file, and creating the context in which the agent is operating, a value-aider construction or building the score function, i.e. being able to tell the agent what good actually is in building a scoring system for it. And then there's other skills like loop operation, problem decomposition, but the point is that all of these things operate on a much higher level of abstraction than most of our work tasks today. One interesting experiment to run this week is to, as you're working, find the things that you repeatedly do or a part of doing where you know right now what better looks like. Ask if you could encapsulate that judgment clearly enough for an agent to use it as a score. If you can, you might be able to point a loop at that part of your job to work on your behalf overnight, and that likely gives you a preview of the next version of your job. One of the great challenges right now, as someone who thinks about how to help individuals and companies adopt AI, is that every week the capability overhang gets bigger. In other words, the gap between meeting companies and people where they are and what I think they should be actually doing gets wider. At some point, it's so wide that it almost becomes malfeasance to meet them where they are, and yet what other choice is there. The only other choice that I've found is to try to provide as many resources as I can for the people who are living at the other side of that gap and who are really pushing the boundaries. And if you think that you had an advantage when you were just vibe coding with lovable or clawed code, let me tell you, if you start to figure out how to implement agent groups in your work, you are going to literally run circles, looping circles around everyone else. My spidey sense says that what auto research represents is bigger than just a weekend project for one of AI's favorite people, and I'm excited to dig in further. For now, that is going to do it for today's AI Daily Brief. Thanks for listening or watching as always, and until next time, peace. [MUSIC PLAYING]

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Andrej Karpathy's Auto Research project demonstrates an AI agent autonomously conducting machine learning experiments through an iterative loop, optimizing a model based on a clear performance metric without human intervention.
  2. This represents a potential new "work primitive"—a fundamental, reusable pattern where a human writes a strategic prompt (e.g., a `prompt.md` file) and an AI agent executes tasks, evaluates results against a metric, and iterates continuously.
  3. The concept connects to broader trends like the "Ralph Wiggum" loop for software development, suggesting this agentic loop pattern can be applied beyond ML research to areas like marketing, business processes, and scientific experimentation.

Summary:

The discussion centers on Andrej Karpathy's "Auto Research" project, which automates machine learning research. md` file, defining the research strategy. An AI agent then autonomously edits the training code, runs a five-minute experiment, and evaluates the result using a single metric (validation loss).

If the result improves, the change is kept; if not, it is discarded. The agent repeats this loop indefinitely, enabling rapid, unsupervised experimentation. This exemplifies an "agentic loop," a foundational pattern where human guidance and AI execution are connected by a clear success metric.

" Commentators suggest this loop framework could revolutionize fields beyond AI research, such as marketing, advertising, and business automation, by enabling continuous, metric-driven optimization at unprecedented scale and speed.

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Auto Research is a system for training small language models using an AI agent in an iterative loop, created by Andre Carpathiy, a former OpenAI and Tesla AI director.

It uses a three-file setup: a fixed infrastructure file, a training file the AI agent edits, and a prompt.md file with instructions. The agent runs experiments, evaluates results via a metric like validation BPP, and commits improvements in a loop.

Each training run is limited to five minutes, ensuring all experiments are compared on equal footing and enabling rapid iteration, such as hundreds of runs overnight.

Both involve AI agents operating in iterative loops with externalized memory, but Auto Research focuses on research optimization with a clear metric, while Ralph Wiggum targets software development tasks.

It can be applied to business problems like marketing, advertising, and cold outreach by defining success metrics, allowing agents to autonomously run and evaluate experiments in a loop.

The human designs the research strategy by editing the prompt.md file, setting the context and instructions for the AI agent, rather than directly modifying code.

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