Austin Ross

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I'm glad to be here, man, I've been looking forward to it, I know it took me a while to get back to you, but I am looking forward to it, I want to start doing more collabs, so I think it's cool what you're doing and I'm just glad to be here. My helper, he's asking me every day, when's Austin off the podcast, he's watching some of his YouTube videos, and I did back years ago, I remember seeing some YouTube videos, you're still welding every day back then, and then you're doing the one about, I think he was doing my pants. No, while you was in your camp, we were explaining different weldments, that's what it was. And I was lying down for a long time, and then a buddy of mine was like, this was last year, when I first spoke to him, and he was in the last year when we first spoke, and I was like, man, that name sounds so familiar, when I went back and picked you and watched a few videos on that. But I can get him on there, but then when I messaged you and I was like, he'll never respond to it. And then he did, so here we are. So how did you reach out, is this text one, or did you email me, I don't even remember? I messaged you on Instagram, I'm pretty sure, and then it transferred you to the community text, yeah, okay. Did you, and then we moved on to a private text? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Drop all sorts of information in there, just trying to get you admitted to it, you know? Yeah, I see you weren't still at home with my dad and the college there, that's pretty cool. That is cool. Where are you from, Ty? I am from North Alabama, but I was born in photo for home, back then. No, kiddin. So did you know anybody from photo, or did you didn't spend much time there as a? Oh, I was raised outside of McAllister, Oklahoma. Oh, okay, okay, this is my flat, around Tallahain, Buffalo Valley, that area, and then we moved to Alabama. I was seven. But I just always tell people about Alabama, that's really good. Gotcha. But my birth stick, it says photo for home. So I've got a lot of family around me, it's good. All right, that's cool, that's cool. I was just telling Ty before we started that, I'm a question asker and I don't, I don't know him real well, so I'm gonna have to keep my mouth shut. But. And I probably should do a podcast where I go back and kind of real fresh, because the first one I did wasn't very good, it's probably got like 2800 visits to it. I'm sure people got 40, 40, 40, because we didn't really, I was doing my buddy golf, and we kind of didn't know what questions to ask, so we really have to get a conversation going. So it's kind of a struggle bus podcast, but yeah, but the fact that you're doing it, the fact that you're doing it, dude, is, is all that matters in my opinion, because it's, there's a, there's a huge gap between the tradesmen and like social media and those of us that have worked our whole lives and like, so the fact that like we attempt stuff like this is a big deal, and it's good for our industry. So the fact that you're doing it, much respect, much respect, oh yeah. So trying people's stories, like TikTok's one persona per se, or you know, YouTube, you know, you're, you're only explaining something, but that, that don't mean that people too like to get to know you, you know, or, yeah, I think it's a lot easier to get a connection with people if you're in a sit-down situation like this for somebody's asking you personal questions, you know, comment on your life, you know, I mean, you wrote me a very detailed bio about your life, you know, it's, I don't know, I feel like people can connect with that a lot more, you know, but they don't feel like listening to a guy preach on the internet. Yeah, I agree, it's a whole another type of information and conversation, I agree. And you know, I'm trying to transfer it to the video part of this, you know, I've always done this strictly, you know, part of it, but you know, I'm trying to bring it into YouTube, I guess now I got these little snippets, you can post this news on this. These people here, it sucks when I first started trying to use this thing, I couldn't understand it at all. Well, then I reached out to them because it called, I mean, it cost me like 300 bucks for this but the way that I thought I wanted to do it. Well, I missed them, like, I want to refund because I don't understand how to read those crap. They're sending these videos, broke down videos of it, like that was a, we learned how to weld or something like that. It's working out so far, it's, you know, if you got decent internet service and you can also record locally, like a couple of years ago, I was at BoJackson's house and I was trying to report on my iPad and had my phone set up where it was videotaping us and it just shouldn't work out. So I can look the camera to my iPad, look to my Macbook view and pull it locally. It's a, I don't know, it's a learning curve, you know, and then having them work to do it. But I got a little bit about, you know, if you don't do it, somebody else is going to do it. It's the same thing I tell my helpers all the time when they're in practice and it's hot outside and they worked all day and they don't want to practice when they go home. Or if you're not doing it, somebody else is flexing to get that job without you. So it don't matter if you don't want to do it, but don't do it. Don't do it, whether there's recognition for it. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, the spot will get filled no matter what. That's just how the universe works in my opinion, you know, it's just kind of a lull. I kind of already got this market to work, you know, as far as the podcast made for Pope London, I mean, there's another podcast called Iron Sides and Nate was over a couple weeks ago. They're not a pop line oriented podcast. They are a welder as a whole podcast. They put out some really good information on them and start a little bit back and forth. I really like them guys, you know, it's like, there's plenty of, there's plenty of market for everybody. I just got to find a lot of people in a lot of information, but out there, like I only wanted to do guys that had the huge fall on one of these guys that had a hundred thousand followers here. They had blah, blah. But I've learned that I'm not always going to get that guy or that guy, like I need normal everyday average people because that's what this thing was started on, and that's what I wanted to do. Like, I want that information as well, because I want everybody's story, not just the guys that have made, you know, like, them well on YouTube or they've done well on TikTok and Instagram or whatever. I want them to encapsulate a lot of people's stories. I kind of got sidetracked with it a little bit, but I'm going to bring it back full circle now. I just really smacked budgets today. Kenzie Buzzer, she's from Oklahoma. She's a welder. It really turns today. I got both Jackson's coming this week. I probably dropped two years ago to drop one last week. I'm sorry. I'm so glad you got Bo Jackson on here. It's a good thing. I worked with Bo. I love Bo. I don't think so. And I'd say cool. I'd like two podcasts scheduled I'm going to start with Bo and be awesome to please. Well, he has. - Yeah, once me and Bo finished up all the podcast, many of us are taking a joke with it. The cactus, and you know what I'm saying? You can swing all the heck over there with Bo. There's really such a need for Bo to do, because Chills, Chills all get out of it. - What's Bo doing right now? I gotta ask. I ain't heard from him in a while. Is he still pot flyin' or is he doin' somethin' else? - No, he's still a pot flyin', but Bo's one of the guys that works when he wants to work. - Yeah, yeah. - He left the home, he's doin' stuff at home. He was actually extremely hard to get on the podcast. Because that guy works up, I don't know, about 36 thought in one of them. He doesn't stop til eight and not fuck it now. - Wow. - It's hard to get him to set it still and set down for two hours. I would have that accomplishment. Like I literally went to his house and that's how I got on the podcast. We tried to do him a phone and the cops in my house, you know, listen to that. - I'm lookin' forward. I'm gonna make sure, check in with your podcast see when his goes up. - Since I didn't, I like, and another thing about Bo is, I didn't even have the phone at the editor. It wasn't the editor, that's because I promised, I was gonna drop Bo's necks, but I promised, I'd put a post up like, who he would say they were talkin' about. This one's for the ladies or whatever. And then I got signed, then I was just recording, recording, recording, and then that time they edited it. And then I wrecked my chair, okay, I hit my chair, and that messed me up, well, here we are. The Kansas come out today, Bo's, I'm gonna try to drop Bo's necks, I don't make a promise, he's probably gonna, and if we next Monday, it's come, goodnight, I don't know. - Right, right. - There are a lot of people that's ready for that one. You know, there are a lot of people that's asking me. He was like, recommended, like I was like, who would you like to hear on the podcast on Facebook? And it was Bo Jackson, Bo Jackson, Bo Jackson, Bo Jackson. - He ain't, he ain't got, he's character, I like him, I like today, Bo. - In West Texas, where I'm at, he's a living legend, oh yeah. - Oh yeah. - And some of us have been fortunate, or some people have been fortunate to be on job with him. Some people have, they just know him from the town, you know, he's a long time, there's a fair amount of hands so a lot of people know him, yeah. There's something else, you ought to say the picture, I can't wait to put the picture on Instagram, that he sent me for the podcast. (laughs) - Oh, I love people, to send me whatever picture you want to send me, that's the picture I'm gonna use to promote the podcast. We send me two very good pictures, so I can't wait to share it. - That's awesome, dude, I love it. - I got as much, like, he cares a great deal about work and stuff. They're like, he just, he just to go with the flow, just a genuine good person. I just, he thinks, well, he puts into the world, if he puts all this good into the world, the world's gonna be great. That's the way those guys think. So it's just a beautiful thing, he's great, dude. Great man. - That really is a beautiful thing, I agree with you. - I'm happy you let me stop by, see his little branches gonna hang out with him. I'm glad you love him reporting, 'cause I was a little bit nervous that he was listening to what I did. You know, he'd feel like, now I might do it, I check my mind and do it. But I guess we all ended up with two hours. I kind of let him just share the conversation so for anyone to get that stuff. I always start about the same way. Where you're from, you know, I'm from Stillwater. I kind of always do that, but kind of let conversations just go where it goes to, you know. Sometimes he gets you trouble. I have a real few guys that I really feel. - Right, right. It can have a nice touch though if it's natural conversation, kind of like you and I right now. It can have a, yeah. - Now, so when I try to script a thing, and I'm like, no, I'm not able to do it, it's not the same, but, and I've tried to clean up a lot of my customers, 'cause I don't know if you know Gerald Bedfield. Basically. - Not personally, but I know who you're talking about. Yeah. - What's this? Can you hear that, Lightning? - I heard something hit, but I didn't, I can't hear. - No, no, I don't. - Oh. - Oh. - You don't rain in the desert, but it pops apart. - Oh, it's hard. - Oh. - Anyways. But, Gerald Bedfield, he was at Western Welman Academy. - Yeah. - And he had a pretty good ball when people liked to watch his content and stuff there, and then he parted his ways for whatever reason. But when I was in Colorado last year, I was like, well, I'm gonna try to get in on the podcast and let's see if I can get in on there. So, I'm messaging him. He gets back in the first place, but he was like, we have a phone conversation. I was like, yes sir. The sender was phone number. I did all four of the call and the dog came to see us like that. He said, son, I really believe in what you do. And I like it a lot. But I can't be partin' all that custom. I said, man, I'll clean it up. I can clean it up. You know, he's like, well, and he's like, do you promise me that? I'll be more than happy to be one with you. Well, I had him booked for like two, two thirches a day. But, he had some outcome. I think he was supposed to do that. My grandfather probably talked about it. He had a heart attack. Like, he almost died in the yard and stuff like that. So, he's kinda getting healed up again. And then, he's like, I'm on compensation. I can't wait 'cause that man has been everywhere. He's done everything. My service get bad knowledge. I lose you. I lose you. If you heard the part about Geralt, I do, but. Hey, uh, no. He had this heart attack and stuff. But he's coming back on the podcast. I was later next week on, he don't say something about it. I was kinda letting him heal up a little bit before we jump back into it. Yeah, I think. His widow making was clogged up. And he went to the hospital and I guess I was waiting. They was waiting on them to get him in or whatever. And he pretty much fell out right there on the floor and liked to die. But they got him in surgery. And he told me the moral Monday, the moral day Monday. And he was, they'd got him booked and stuff. So I was waiting on get back to 100% where he feels like doing it. And then we're going to get him on there. Yeah, awesome, awesome. So are you a close relation top on it? I am a first generation. Yeah, my brothers, two years older than me. Rodney Ross with mid-state welding. He lives in South Dakota now. But he would, he was the first one in our family to become a welder, become a pipeline welder than myself. But yeah, we're first generation. Yeah, is there a certain reason you decided to chase welding as a career? Me personally was, was because of my brother. He, like I said, he's two years older than me. And he went to our local trade school. There in Stillwater, Meridian Technology Center. His junior and senior year of high school for welding. And I didn't know, I'll see if he was a junior. I'd have been ninth grade. So I guess, you know, prior to ninth grade, prior to him going to that, I knew I was going to work. I wasn't much of a student, you know? So I was like, I got to find something to do that. I knew I wanted to be successful. And whenever he kind of rattled off that welders were making back then, it was like $40 an hour. I was like, I got to do that. And sure, I went, I decided to go to Votech. And I enjoyed it and put my all into it. And that's all I've ever done since. So that's what inspired me though, I guess, is my brother, you know? It was cool when people have like a relative to me. It's always cool, like, I don't know any of my well. My dad says that there are apps relative to welders, but I don't know, I've never had any kind of worship with them. So like, I always think it's cool when somebody has someone in the family that was a red welder, you know? It's kind of family thing, you know what? It's a sibling of dad or a couple, you know, even a friend of mine. I always find it interesting, like, also in the priest, she's a fourth generation pop model. Oh wow. Mike Buzzard, she's a third generation, you know? I always think it's cool. Well, that is cool. That is cool. Yeah. So it's here you ran a mig going, also done. Yes. I guess this one is working at the weld supply, other than still supply? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's mostly all we ran was mig. We ran a little bit of TIG there. I've TIGged some aluminum quite a bit, but and Stick a little bit, but mostly mig is what we did there. Yep. The, uh, when I am just terrible at, uh, at a, uh, makeup, I don't know why I think it's because it does so much for you. Mm-hmm. Traveling stuff down right on, you know, or set it up right. I guess I've just never had the district to do that. I do find it. Yeah, I do find it extremely interesting. I'm just not very good at that either. Me neither. And I, like I said, I don't have a near, I, whenever I was in welding school, I gravitated towards stick welding. That's what I wanted to do was stick weld. And it was just that, that, uh, still supply job was just an entry level job, but I wasn't doing what I wanted to do and what I focused on in welding school. You know, I, I didn't, it was good for me for the experience, which is what I stress a lot, you know, on the YouTube channel. Like, like it taught me a lot of fabrication skills, you know, and I definitely got some, obviously, you know, I got real familiar with the mid gun, but I, but I knew the whole time I worked there, I knew that I wanted to work out of my truck and stick weld. That was my, that was what I enjoyed most. So, you know, since you said that about getting experience and stuff, like I feel like here in struggle a lot with that, you know, they see the big faces. trucks and they see this and see that, you know, instead of maybe so much not like where you're from and where I'm from, they have the trade store or vote tax schools, you know that you can take your morning classes and you spend a couple of hours growing, you know, some of them might just have ag shop what they do, but you know like any experience is not a bad experience, you know what I'm saying, I agree, yeah, yeah, you know, whether if you're just going in and learn how to run a cup tour or you do that much further along, you know, these like my, my helper right now since he went to college and got a business to do, but he also took some sort of welcome class there at Texas Day, which made him that much better. He runs a cup for his better than me and I've got him all the while, so he's up to better than me, a natural way of running a cup tour, but they, uh, I don't feel like any experience you can gain coming up, you know, like here you got to jump out at 18 years old and have a big flashing truck and welcome to all this stuff, like that's one of the things I've tried to push a lot is, you know, everything's a stepping stone to get to where you want to be at. 110, 110, that's, uh, it's one of the biggest issues in my opinion with social media, I actually filmed a video today, a couple of different videos, but over all the years of having the YouTube channel, one thing that I've dissected and kind of noticed and observed is how this generation coming up with social media, they see what will just use my, you know, me pipelining, for example, a lot of people found my YouTube channel of, because of the pipeline work and they see that and they want to do that. They see the nice truck, they see the, you know, that you're out there pipelining and they want to do that. And so they instantly want it and they kind of forget the back story, you know, that there's a lot of years behind, you know, me being right here on the right of where right now, you know what I mean? So I couldn't agree more. I could, we could talk of a whole podcast on this issue because it's a, it's a big problem. Nowadays, unfortunately, you know what I mean, social media, it's because it discourages kids. You know what I mean? Like it, not only does it discourage them, but it also like gives them false hope. They kind of forget that, that in between, like the, and they kind of forget that there's tangible steps you can take to get there, but you got to be willing to, you know, slow down, focus on your own, you know, I mean, keep your blinders on, do what you need to do right now. Don't worry about what everybody else has got going on, like, you have to be willing to do that, and that's hard to do in a, whenever you're constantly scrolling and seeing stuff, you know, it's a big problem totally. I'm 18 year old here to be patient, not everybody learns and goes at the same rate, you know. I could type two kids, go 18 years old, and this one out here may be two weeks in front of this one in the first week, and what this one is. You know, don't mean that this one's better, and this one's large, and don't mean anything. Just people learn, and the tiny information at different rates of speed, you know, it's fine. Doesn't mean this one's dumb, this one's smarter, it's just how we operate the people. I agree. Everybody learns its own pace. So, you, your first five contest, you went through there, like, I know you worked in the, worked in the still yard, and you dump some drill and rig stuff, but the first five tests that you take, what was that job for? So, my first pipeline test was for a fabrication job for one oak and Medford, Oklahoma, and the call came out of nowhere. I was working for the drill and rig yard, and the guy that called me, he was, his name is Michael Sair, he was three years older than me. I think he was in my brother's Votec class, he's from Pawnee, a small town outside of us to water, and him and his brother, real good welders, been well and since they were like, I don't know, like literally four years old or something, you know what I mean? They've been well in their whole lives, their dad's a welder, and anyway, but they went to Votec also, and I didn't really talk to Michael very much. I didn't have, like, a great relationship with him, but I asked him later, I said, why did you call me to come take that test? Like, I, I mean, I had a weld truck, and I was working on drill and rigs, but I didn't have no, you know, pipe welding experience, you know, per se, and so later, I asked, I said, why did you call me to take that test? He said, because every time I went into the water steel, where I was working right after high school, I would talk to Joe, the owner, and he would just talk you up and say, you know, you're always good at hand, always on time, always willing to do whatever. And so what that told me is that somebody was watching. You know what I mean, how somebody, people always say, like, somebody's always watching. And so, again, I don't, I need to ask, I would love to ask Michael more questions, but I need to, it just always amazed me. I was like, so humbled that he called me. I was like, why? Like, I'm not a, you know what I mean? I don't know why. But Michael's always been that way. He's always helped younger guys that he can tell that they want it, you know what I mean? He can tell that they're serious about, you know, rig welding, and, you know, wanting to get in and pipe on industry. And so he, so he called me out of blue when I was working on that red yard, and he asked if I wanted to come take a test, Medford's two hours north of Stillwater where I'm from. And I said, dude, I'd love to. I said, I said, I'm nervous, I can't remember the conversation, but I know I was nervous, but I was like, absolutely, you know, not only two hours away. And so I told that guy I was working for the, the welder formant on the drill and place Charlie, what's his last name from losing on a real great guy. Also gave me a chance. I mean, I was very persistent on getting that drill and rig job, too, because I didn't know anybody. Like, my brother was pipeline, you know, I didn't, I didn't have any connections per say to that drill and rig deal. And I, so anyway, I always remember Charlie, what is his, our know is his last name. And really appreciate, you know, the chance he gave me, but anyway, I told him my situation. I said, dude, I got a test up here. I said, you know, I've always wanted to pipeline, whatever, and he was like, he's like, go take your test. And if you bust it, just come on back, you know what I mean? And so one of them cool deals at an older guy, you know what I mean, done for me. And I was like, all right. So I went up there and tested like the next day or something, I think. And again, nervous wreck, I was one as 12 inch, but I think flat and a branch. And I don't remember how it went, but I've asked Michael years later, I said, dude, I said, I must have been a nervous wreck. He said, oh, yeah, you are. He said, I knew the inspector on that job. He said, I knew that he was going to, you know what I mean, be fair with you and everything. He said, it was a good job for you to, you know, take your first pipe test and start getting a spot building experience and, and it sure enough was, it was a good job for me. I always try to stress my health, so that it's not me that's going to keep them busy as their food progressives. You know, I'm always one guy. I don't know everybody. But if you're doing me a good job, then the other world is like we're out of cabin and there's six or seven other world trucks around there, they're watching helpers. Everybody watches everybody, you know, and that's what's getting me busy is my helper days, not so much any more that's been so long, though, but when I first was breaking out, that's what kept me busy a lot was people knowing my work ethic, you know, how much, how much knowledge I wanted to gain, you know, I would always be asking questions and some of them probably would write questions, but luckily the world that I worked for included those off, the brief focus, you know, what I was supposed to be learning. And they, I'm always stressed out and that's, it's not who you're working for that's, that's going to help you out. So the people around, they can see you work, that's, that's what's going to progress your career there. You go through this. I feel like my helpers doing their job, I can blame just because I can blame, but I've certainly won't come anything from it, they show up to time, they show up on time, they do their job, they rarely complain about it being hard or told where we're at and I've been fortunate last year, that's cool, that's cool, that you and that gas stove, you know, the mountain galagation you first gave and stuff, that's how I was doing, I know each other well, that's, I tested not long ago in, first of the sea at the Kyrgyzstan, yeah, yeah. I don't know what that display says, it's called the American IPI, yeah, API, yeah, yeah, I mean, I've got to just shoot the goal up there. That was a good test. I won't say an easy test because no world test is a given me, but it wasn't there to rip you apart on things. Right, right. Fair, what I would call them, you know, fair. They're not there to, you know, knock you out of the job. They're just, you know, they can tell you got experience. They're not going to ride you too hard. I know, I know exactly what you mean. Yeah. They're your job and they work out their content. That's a real fair, real fair guy. Good job. Then there's last test that I take, or I take, they took it. Last test that I took, they, they come out of pushing. I can't remember the guy's name, but he came out and tested us in the army. But he was from cushion. He wasn't there when I tested, but he knows the guy. Well, they all know. He was there like a half a day when I first got up there just retested to like three or four days something I've got it that's actually much better. For Imbridge. Imbridge, Holly, at the time it was a gallon, but now it's one of those. That's in like four days and got like five or six different. Oh, that's awesome. A lot of times when I, a lot of times whenever I hear people having to test for several days in cushing a lot of times to Imbridge. More than natural, they got five or three days worth of tests in five or six days. Well, it was for something that's mostly called Mid-America. Yeah, yeah, I heard Mid-America. Yeah. Very good coming. A lot of maintenance stuff is very priorities, you know, right? I don't think they do much fabric or anything like that. They do a lot of and service maintenance out of things, rehab work, especially. Yeah. My buddy still works when my buddy got me still working for him. But I just wanted to try to stay home this year in Texas about here that as much as possible. So I kind of went to my goal, I haven't done it in a while, but I already went to Florida this year. So, you know, it's next month, I get really like in the water. It's a good it's a good goal, but yeah, that I sure, whenever I was a pipeline and I had to, I had to, what do we call it with the, uh, the fever bad man, I didn't want to stay. I did, I wanted to go see places I hadn't ever seen. That's all I wanted to do when I was pipelining. Yeah, I had that bad. I just, it took me two or three years and I pipelining to get off that rambling fever. It's fun, man. Yeah, it's a hot. It's an addiction in the type of way, you know, not the same as, I don't know a lot of guys. It's, I don't know a lot of good things that had going on or off because they want to go see my only one day and Mississippi one day, you know. Oh, yeah. No, if for sure can, yeah, because you got to have that self-discipline to, to say, no one to say, no, for, you know what I mean, you got with pipeline, you never really know what's best, but, you know, you're considering your family situation, you're considering, you know, the job length, all that stuff, all that goes into play and if you make the wrong decision, you can shoot yourself in the foot. Sometimes, more out of your control and sometimes not, you know what I mean, that's what I mean by, you just never really know what pipeline work, but you can take an educated guess, the longer you do it, you know what I mean. If you have a job lasting for another month, a month and a half and this other job they're telling you, you're old in that job and you, once you've done this for a while, you can, you can kind of tell how much pops left around, you know, no matter what they're saying, you kind of can sort of put in the job together in your mind, you know, I mean, times or left stuff like that, you know, but this other guy calls you and he's like, "Man, I got plenty of months worth of work over here. Good bad job." And we got 2,000 wells, you know, well, 2,000 wells split between 10 welders, I think that much well in the video. All right. I think that full of months, and you split it down to a month and a half, when you're on a month and a half left and a split with your own, and you ain't taking a chance on driving 800 miles and bone of transmission or engine or, you know, cutting down some tires on the truck and the camper or, you know, any time you, you know, and then you're out that money on top of, you know, the money you was going to make sits still, you know, I've been guilty, and I think we've all been guilty of, you know, somebody called you in some place, you ain't had been, the money's the same, but you don't care about that, you just never been, so you gotta go see it. Oh, it's all right. That's exactly right. That's what you can't ask if you get a hotel or whatever, and it's a two week job. Here you go. I was a bus. All right, you'll make your money back. I know. I don't get guilty of it, but I try to refrain from being at any more of like, and with all the stuff going on, this can be awesome. I'm really going to be that forward home, you know, I did go though, pulled over. I knew it was a short job, but it was going to be a quick turnaround, and I had a job in Texas, and we were all going to work out, which could work out for a little while, but once again, nothing's getting to even this line of work. Is there one minute, the next one in this job, which is part of it. One thing I found valuable was who I was working for, the once I kind of got the trend, it finally clicked that, you know, even though I like to go in places that I've never been, I finally, you know, the business mind took over and, you know, the, you know, the trying to control, you know what I mean, trying to control what you can, you know, in that hectic lifestyle. And one thing that I came to terms with was like, you know what, I'm going to start going on jobs for guys that I like to work for because at the end of the day, that's what makes, you know, a good job in my opinion is who you're working for. You know, I don't care the company. I don't care where it's at. If it's a good guy to work for, I'm there. So I'm in the desert right now because the guy that I'm working for time and time again, he's proved his word's good. He's good. He's not. He's a great boss to work for. He takes care of him as much as he can. That's just, I don't know. I think that the next job that he has is not outside of Texas. It seems like it could be outside of Texas, but it also could be in Texas. So just, like, you know, like, well, don't get that itchy feeling like, oh, we're getting laid off, we're getting laid off. Well, any other boss that I've worked for tells me, you know, that we got this or, you know, we might have two weeks left, I probably always, or at least have something pretty much solidified in other world, but sure. So let this one play out. He says that that work, and I'm just going to ride the ship so we're done with it. We'll see. You know, I mean, like, we know that my truck has got to go to the shop. So I need to spend a couple weeks down in the way. It told me, the guy's only had it in about two weeks, but it also depends on parts. And you all know how that gets, you know? I hope to have on this set truck already. Traveling part of this. Like you said, who you work for, who you're around working with. The guy's it's on the job with you, whether it's 400 superintendents, laborans, other welders, shelters, I'd say you all the difference in the world. It can be terrible work, but if you're around the group or good guys that didn't want to just want to go to the job and have fun, then it makes all the difference in the world. 110, man. 110. I'm still a part of the 798. I still pay my dues. I pay, it's like 31, I think, dollars a month that I pay just to keep my spot on the wheel and just to be, you know, so I can go to the hall and weld them pie for whatever whenever I want. You're a bastard. I'm not vested. That's one of the reasons why I've kept my book is because I would like to at least get vested. That's one reason. That's five years to get vested. It really depends on how many credits you get. Like I was only I only worked, or no, I guess I did hit three calendar years. I worked 2017, 2018 and 2019, but I only, I think I got two of those credits in 2017. Is that right? Some reason I've done sound right now, but anyway, it depends on how many credits you got. I have five credits and you can get, you know, if you work, I don't have the numbers in my head right now, but you can get two credits a year if you have, you know, worked enough. So it's really, really, but they amount of credits and I only have three credits. I don't have five. So that's kind of one of the reasons, but another reason is just because it's cool to be a part of, it's cool to be a part of it. I like going to the meetings. I like visiting with them. I like visiting with other pie planners like we're doing now. Like it's just, it's like a, it's just a camaraderie is one of the reasons why I stay. You know, you're still a part of the brotherhood, and I said you'd go up there, get the people out of the world on them, you know, you know. Like I'm going to have a chat on here the next week, you know, because I'm, the man has a lot of information. I don't think that it's really a podcast is going to strike home or pertain to the older, you know, the guys that's been well six plus years, you know, in some of them in mind, I've met some inspectors that say, well, I welded for eight years non-union, I jumped into the meeting, I was in there for 15 years, 15 years, you know. So maybe it does, but I just feel like that I have this platform and I'm going to use it to spread as much about well, or there's seven ninety eight, whether it's non-union, whether it's much about it like in, because the younger generation, like I'm about to get a little side-tracked here, but there's this TikTok world here, and he don't do anything that involves the pop lock. He does a lot of machinery repair, little bit of fancy stuff. He does do some pop stuff here in there, but he does a lot of machinery and stuff like that. Yeah, that's a true idea. - Sure. - That machines, all this stuff. And it seems like a pretty lucrative business. You know, someone to have them on the podcast. Well, he was like, it is such a douchebag to me. I'm like, you're talking to a pop line. So first of all, throw your jets. 'Cause you're not, you're here and pop lineers are way up here. You're not even close to the pop this pretty little. And this guy called me a nacho-y soil box. What, I don't even know what that means. He wasn't, he did not want to be part of the podcast. I'm like, hey, no big deal. Yeah, I mean, he is like, I'm not, they're just just in my pain and how I build people. I'm not asking for that, my boy. I'm just asking for you to get on there and share why you do the work that you do. - Yeah, give another perspective of mobile welding. - Yes, mobile welding, outside of just being a pop lineer. It's a pretty lucrative business to go weld on equipment. - Yeah, absolutely. - Yeah, no, it's not. It doesn't have anything to do with pay scales or anything like that, like even talking to Chad. The $7.8 has their scales and not even has their scales. I'm not getting on it and talk about money. It's not about money. It's about, they have a program that pays you to learn how to build weld there. Pay to go to school, $27,000 when you could be over in the internship program, making very good money, working to be a journalist. I'm just saying for parents that really don't want their kid. There's 17, 19 year old kid that drive across the country to come to work in West Texas where it's extremely dangerous for somebody that don't know. There's an organization that don't cost you for a few a month to be part of. That won't teach you how to build weld there. And you might be living doing it. You've got $27,000 or $30,000 in bed when you become a journalist. Just trying to make it well-rounded. That there's more than one way is to skin this cat to become the top of the game welder than outsider paying money, going on being a helper of the internship programs. There's a lot of ways to do this. That's what I'm trying to cover as a full circle to get. So take the kid that's scrolling on his phone, looking at the big look to trucks. There's a bunch of ways to get to all that. Not this path, not my path, not your path, not your blows path is the right path. You've got to find the path that's ideal for you. That's right, yeah. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, it's super helpful. That's what's neat about social media and everything. Nowadays, it's a love-hate thing. I know you just said social media, but it's a love-hate thing. If you're searching out positive things and good things, it's super good, but it can also be the opposite. But yeah, I love that. I love that because I'm an advocate of educating and sharing different perspectives. I love that. I think it's just, I mean, you can't be a closed door. Everything's got to be one of them slacking doors. Some information needs to go through, and some information needs to be like your work. So it's guys who are involved in doors, so it's pretty good. I don't know, I don't know. I just hate to see these kids go that far. It's no different than kids together college that never want to use that degree. That piece of paper that they give you at one log school. Now, it's, are they really truly doing justice for you? I know a couple that I've met kids from and know people that's been around that program. I can say that they are doing the right things, but I know others, you know, that the kids, my little girl's no more about welding than they know. Right. And they can carry less about, well, I know they care about it. You know, they cheerly now fix and choke out your block. You know, that's what they care about. I don't know. I just don't want to be a closed door. And I kind of would, I kind of am a little bit to it, but after getting a visit with them, I don't know what it is. I met so many 798 guys of shit. It's like just about every other inspector just said 98 older guys was in the 798 now that it inspectors. And they're drawing $13,000 or $14,000 a month or $11,000 from the pension, because they're not. And then they're going to make $1,000 a day. So who's really the one that's going to do the math on that? Because inspectors get paid every day that they show up. Or the ones that I make, it's not an hourly rate. It's a day rate. You know, they show up. Right. You may not still have $1,000 a day. What's your $1,99? You got to manage your taxes, but still. I mean, that's a lot of money to leave. Oh, for sure. Yeah. It's all going to grow into a lot of power. Yeah. Yeah, that's-- I got what? And they got four. You know, they got their insurance and all that. Yeah. Oh yeah, that's a wise, wise, wise-- that's what we are on the $7.98 subject after all. We kind of sidetracked. But yeah, that is a wise overall, generally speaking, it's a wise career choice to join a union. But as I think we were talking about before, the common hesitation of somebody that's worked non-union for long enough to build a network five years like myself. I worked five years. Built a network when I graduated. It was hard to stay busy, you know what I mean? After it slowed down. Obviously, they needed welders when I graduated. But it was harder to stay busy. And that's just a reality as of right now. That could change. It's went up and down over the years, you know what I mean? But that's a common hesitation is staying busy. So it's a lot of things, too, I mean, it's up and down, up and down. I mean, for anybody trying to get in this lifestyle, it's a gamble every day. It's a gamble driving. It's a gamble taking tests. It's a gamble every time you make the weld. I mean, it's steadily a gamble. It's not a-- it's not a, you know, you ask your first test into guaranteed because I mean, I'm pretty sure wouldn't that wait for you if it was. That's amazing. But I know enough people who don't know that way. No, not at all. Not at all. Definitely don't expect that. Don't expect it to be that good because, yeah, it's not that way, usually. You spent a lot of your career in what would be the north, east, west, or how, what do they call it, the mid-Balley? I always call it the north-east. There's another name. But yeah, yeah, I spent a lot of time in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and West Virginia. I did go to North Dakota, Montana, worked in Colorado a couple times, worked in Texas once. It's where I met Bo Jackson, and then Tennessee one time. But the majority of it was northeast, yeah. I wanted to go like poppin' this one time. Just to say I did it now would be over. It's kind of like, I made much of it this year. I went down there, I've soon got the experience through that. I don't really feel like it's something that I've got to go do again. What, where is that? Where did you say? Before I, I feel like I've got to go back to Florida, the world again, you know. I would like to go to West Virginia. Pennsylvania, looks super cool, pictured my sleeves and some buttons. It's been up there, though, Ohio. I didn't chance to go Ohio earlier this year, but it was raining a lot there. I was like, well, a lot of money left on the table, because some place can rain every day. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. I'm done. They're a little bit. I'm going to try to stay home in Texas the while. So you've done it for eight years, that's you, you pop on. What made you decide to go this other route, to where you, you know, you stand at home, you know, you got your own mobile world and there you have your, what made, what made you decide to do that? I mean, it was a kid's or no, we don't have any kids, but we do have a five-year-old nephew. It's one of the biggest reasons my wife wanted to stay home, but he wasn't five at the time. It's been almost 2019. I guess it's been close to five years since I've even been on the road. So right around the time he was born, my wife was like, you know, I kind of want to spend more time at home. But no kids, but we do have him and he has a younger brother now. And we also have a niece, but she lives in South Dakota. But the reason it started out being, well, pipeline got slow. So it probably, about a year into me, you know, waiting and looking for a pipeline job in the union, I finally decided I can't, you know, I mean, this isn't working, but I didn't want to turn in my book and I wasn't going to work non-union. That's just, you know, a lot of guys do whatever everybody's got different opinions on it. But I wasn't going to. I knew what I signed up for. I joined the union. I knew the rules. I wasn't going to hear me. So I said, well, I got to do something and that's whenever we just decided we got to read, read just our efforts. And to just pushing on our own business at home, you know, start focusing on it instead of just waiting You know what I mean for this phone call, you know what I mean? It just wasn't it was a business decision essentially, you know what I mean like it If I would have waited it would have been I think it was like two years before I got low enough on the wheel To actually have a chance at going on a job Yeah, yeah, which I've always for me again, like you said everybody's situation's different That's why you got to do what's right for you in your situation and I stress that all the time But for me, I've always you know, I was mobile welding before I went pipeline and I've just always been a I've I've always so it was just natural for me a lot of 798 guys We're going on building trades jobs to stay busy and that that is a good option if you don't mind doing that type of work I I tell people all the time if if I didn't have the mobile welding history that I did I would have definitely went on build and trades job for the benefits, you know I mean keep putting towards my pension like I would have tried it Yeah, yeah, yeah, they definitely they usually don't match So you got to work more hours essentially to get a same credit But but from a you know long-term thinking aspect and thinking about my retirement and all that stuff I would have went and tried it and that's coming from somebody that was that has the like Like I for the longest time had a you know bad attitude towards You know the 798 like I'm part of the 798 because I want a pipeline like that was my attitude And I still would have done that because of the business aspect because of my retirement aspect, you know what I mean So I don't I'm not saying it's a good attitude But I'm just trying to be honest in the fact that like you know, I had that attitude like I joined the 798 pipeline Well, you know, I mean I don't want to go work on the trades So I mean I do kind of side with that, but thankfully, you know, I mean I have this other that I'm used to doing don't mind doing Love doing I can be home do mobile welding so And I think there's I had the same opinion, you know as far as like, you know, they're joined the 798 to pipeline From what I've gathered with the two cultures. I had they don't want to go to go trade but They also don't want good on you know or can't be on you whatever. You know, it's just a it's a tough spot to be in Account on something that's you know too many variables to it have to all flickrott for it to be You know for it to be a grease hole so to speak, but I know guys are like man. I never had looked for a job Long while I was hooked up for 20 years in the same money. Hey Why this? Yeah, probably 20 years ago. That was probably where it was, you know, but now you Like they don't come into Texas. They can't be Texas, you know, but Or wait, you know, and then you're talking about It don't sound like a lot when you're saying 40 to 50 40 to 54, you know when you're on But when you start adding that over time and all that man, it becomes quite a bit of chunk of money You know that when you're been a job, I don't know what a company has a job for so to speak if they're It's a union's paying you 54. Well, they're gonna be making 100% hard for me That's right. They're thinking before they didn't make it on and stuff off of you The pop-on organization that's around Texas that joy and all inch photo kind of like a union if you ask me, it's kind of like their own little group of these businesses, you know, like Contractors got their own little group You know, haven't figured Well, there's have their own little group, you know, I don't know. I can see I see a lot of both of us out of them. I try to be extremely unbiased to it There's some things that I agree to look at Yeah, no, I think it's a healthy to be open-minded and not biased. I like I would encourage more people to do that And ultimately I'll just talk about what you already said, which is Doing what's right for you in your situation. That's ultimately what I think everybody should do They should look within do what you, you know what I mean? Like don't worry about take accountability for for your actions and and what you can change you know what I mean and like Don't point to finger so much is what I'm saying like I could say You know, I mean I got you know I could look at one guy over here and one guy over here and You know say that ultimately you need to make the decision for yourself, you don't mean like like you have to do what's right for you type thing You don't mean for sure The so how did the YouTube channel come about? I mean, I'm out of that all that whole thing. What are you talking about? So my wife Kayla she was traveling with me whenever we were pipelining and she's a natural entrepreneur herself and She was she had her own for she went to college and got a like a web design and Something else to agree, but she got into photography. She had her own photography business whenever we first started traveling whenever we were 21 years old roughly and And that's right whenever I started pipelining 21 22 and she because of the pipeline lifestyle she More or less shut her business down so she could travel on the road with me and She was watching YouTube watching people vlog their lives and stuff so she started vlogging our life To that was kind of an outlet for her was to kind of share with people what you know because she she followed other RV people that that traveled in RVs, but I don't to my knowledge There wasn't nobody sharing you know the pipeline life and she wasn't focused on the pipeline life But it came naturally, you know, she was filming what she did all day as a you know, a stay-at-home wife and the camper and you know people started asking questions about the welding stuff Because she would mention you know we're out here because my husband's pipeline welder or whatever You know what I mean and then people started asking about the welding stuff and the welding truck and She actually created a few this was on a different channel than then I have today called Austin and Kayla and so she started filming all that and people asked about the welding stuff and then Oh, I was gonna say was she created a playlist of Like commonly asked questions like it was very clear that there was a Gap and information on the internet About welding in general, but especially pipeline welding there like there wasn't nobody like very little being shared about pipeline welding so she made this playlist and We filmed a couple of videos Together never thought I would have my own channel whatsoever because she was the one that started all this But as the years went by that was in 2014 or 2015 whenever she started filming and in 2017 Before this, but I mean in 2017 before this we were talking about it, but in 2017 September middle of 2017 I Think it was the end of 2017. I have to go look on my channel. But anyway we decided to Start my channel just focused on The welding and the pipeline stuff That way she could kind of have her channel back because it was you know I mean it was clear that people were hungry for this information. So we started the education, you know We just start making educational videos about what I did which was you know Pipeline so and just all my experience and everything so that's how I got started is because of my wife And now you kind of transition that you know not so much about the pipeline anymore I mean, I'm sure I don't think much of it, but I'm sure it's still you still share those experiences on your page But you know you like you have the pot building class. I see it on the website over there are the principal Why so I think that's sickly cool, you know because there's there's kids out here that you know they're They might have saved little money, you know, they school you they can go pick up where we'll know a bobcat for you know nothing and Turned back of ranger and want to build pop things also, you know, that's right. Especially in Texas probably Oklahoma too, they'll be by Oh, yeah, oh, yeah Whatever you know these kids are taking vocational school or you know a charity school or a book and maybe that's for a bit I think it's super in this that that part of it. I'm I'm not good like me and they start to write it. I'm not good at explaining I am to a helper that I do with every day like I can explain to him very well how to do this job right to take the time to To make here a Well-rounded product for everybody to where everybody can pick up on the information. I'm like I'm not good at that. That's not me. I can do it to one person in our setting, our work is setting and make him understand why it's got to be doing this way. I can do that, but I'm just not. I want to do well. I was going to do both stuff. I'm going to be a tip talk. It's not going to involve the public. I want to do the little money. Just talk out my word about eukiness. I don't know everything. But I can't get in the ladder. I can't. I can't push them up to be relevant. That's okay. I don't really get to be a social media presence outside of the podcast like it. It bothers me at time that people like your podcast and are you just podcast and shit like that. That stuff kind of bugs me, you know, because first and foremost, I'm a welder over anything on the five-line head. The same job. It's not, you know, lacer listening to it. You know, I'll take that. That's right. Yeah. Well, again, I would like to just slowly do this for a little bit. You know, not to be out of heat, not to be out and told make my own hours out. In my opinion, it's, in my opinion, it's good that you're focusing because from our experience. Because me, my wife or natural entrepreneurs and, and like, well, not just that. And that has nothing to do with it. I should say. I should say, because you're a natural entrepreneur too, I should say. All the opportunity that comes with putting herself out there, I mean, you've probably already experienced this. But we naturally, you want to take advantage of opportunity that comes your way. Well, with the internet, it's like a flood of opportunity. So we kind of, because not only are opportunities coming our way, but we see opportunities in what we're already doing. That's why my wife has built the inner circle that we have. That's why we built the trade school. That's why we have this online store. Because she sees opportunity to, you know, I mean, make a living. And, you know, I mean, not have to trade time for money forever. So it's like, but what I'm getting at is because of over the years, we've kind of, you know what I mean? We've had to literally recently hone it in and focus more. Like, so the fact that you're focusing. I'm telling you is huge. It's like, because if you go the other way like we did, it's hectic trying to get it back home then. It's not worth darn. So it's good that you're focusing. Before we start the whole podcast, you know, I talked about how to give a second job. You understand that extremely well. You know, it's, you know, when you're trying to do two things and be really good, you know, not just. I tried to treat this like it was just like, well, like everyone counts. Every single podcast I do has to be a good product, you know, has to be something that I'm proud of. That's and it's become the job. And then when people started handling about wins and X1 coming out and that's, I mean, that's, that's what you want. That's what you should want people to be anxious for that. I liked it a lot better than I was just was setting the cap my truck and Kansas that I don't know the first couple of years. That was way easier. It was cool to be essence. Then, uh, then it kind of just snowballed over there. But now I've been able to bring it back in. I said Tuesdays, Thursdays or center side. I'm going to, you know, I'm going to get up with this guy, see what day he's available. I'm going to put it in my life account here. No matter what, you know, whether it's 6.30 o'clock. That time for this climate, they can do it if they can agree to it. And why can I agree to it? It still gives me Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Well, Sunday's I've been trying to set aside to edit podcasts. But, uh, it still gives you most of your days to be free doing whatever. Yeah, one of the, uh, what you're doing great. I mean, the fact that you're learning along the way is. That's what it's all about, you know what I mean, just getting better. I mean, I like the analogy you used about, you know, pipeline welding. Like, that's a whole other subject in itself that we could talk about in another podcast. But, uh, a lot of people that don't pipeline, they're like, oh, you weld pipe. I ought to be boring. You think that get boring. I'm like, you don't understand. But anyway, that's the whole deal in itself. Uh, because I talk a lot about, there's always room for improvement. And, you know, just as well as I do, pipeline and for I think you and I've been, or pipeline. Well, you probably longer than me now since I haven't been pipeline in five years, but you're about my age. And, uh, I pipeline long enough to like, and since I'm a learner and it sounds like you are too. Like, as long as you're a learner and you're a sponge, you can always improve that well. You can always improve. There's something slightly different every single time. I don't care. I don't care how much you do it. I'm just a firm believer in that. I just think there's always room for improvement. One of the, uh, one of the things, one of the biggest lessons that I learned from pipeline and was the power and focus. So like, after starting, you know, after not pipelining and deciding to stay home and work on building our own business. I'm the things that I've learned. Because there's been times where I'm like, God, I just want to go on a pipeline job. Like, I just want to go, you know what I mean? Cause it's easier because, and I evaluated it and I was like, that's because whenever I'm pipelining, I'm hired to weld the pipe. All I got to take care of was my truck and getting myself there. Obviously, camper that old nine, but like, like getting there. But when I'm on the job, I'm focused on everything's got to be right with this truck. I got to keep it running, got to keep it, you know, stocked up. And I'm there to weld, weld the pipe. I'm not saying we don't do anything else ever, but I'm just saying like, you know, on fabrication, you take measurements and all that stuff. But I'm saying like, that is a job in itself welding. That's why if you study the process of pipeline, they have a crew for right away that cuts right away. They got a crew that cuts ditch. They got a crew that. Bins the pipe. They got, they got crews for every single thing. And I was like, no wonder running a business is so stressful because I'm, you know what I mean? You're having to do so much all the time, which lends to that what I'm talking about about focusing and why it's so. Having a podcast, you could delegate so much right now, editing, scheduling, you could delegate those two things. And still have a solid business, you know, because that's a job in itself, but having a podcast is a job in itself. And you could delegate within that a bunch. You could just walk on and everything can be ready for you and you could just walk on and film your podcast and you know what I mean? I hope that eventually I find somebody that I can trust. Okay, send this to you, which, you know, everything becomes more professional as you do it. You know, the first six I will say is just just being out, just being with the boys, we're going to turn on the mic. We're just going to say and do whatever one of it. That's it. But as I've gotten better at it and gotten more people to be involved with and I've learned that I wanted to be more professional, which takes away a lot of the energy. That's way a lot of that, you know, over to five. If I, I will find somebody open one day. There's a website that Chris told me about. Look at us again. But you can go in there and you can find people do anything. You know, they do everything. Videoography, everything. So I get on there, but I, until it's, until it's, it's own little thing, making its own money and how they all just do it. You know, they're taking a little bit of a lot of money. Oh, for sure. And it's, I think it's good to, there's, there's lost stuff we haven't even delegated yet. But I think, I think a higher power. I think it's good for us that. It's good for your business to do something yourself and learn it. Because there's a lot of power in that, like learning it yourself. Because you can then delegate better, you know what I mean? So that's all part of the process, as you've mentioned also. So. Like Chris taught me last week. I just, I have a mic book out of my iPhone. I just copy it on my iPhone. The mic book, it's got this little spot where I can put notes at. I just click out there, hit Facebook, it's there. I can scroll through the whole mobile you sent me and pick up little tad bits. And I don't have to stare at the phone screen or scroll right through my phone. So it looks like I'm extremely professional, but it's just a little thing on our last week. Absolutely. I love it, dude. That's what it's all about. You and I can talk all day about, we can talk all day about this tech stuff that a couple of hotliners getting into. I was at the computer class, they offered in school, like they offered one. But I were the same age, but I'm pretty cool too. They offered their computer classes for when I'm in my buddy's life. We don't need to know what to do. We didn't even care about it. And then, you know, and then. Here we are 15 years later, 20 years later, I'm like, man, I really wish I took that. And then I'm over the top of life. That forms that I've gotten to know pretty well. They're fixing to become. one platform. Riverside Spotify is fixing to be all of this one thing but Spotify has bought out anchor which is where I first started the first platform like the report podcast. Spotify bought those out. Well now Riverside is also owned by Spotify. So it's just a way more convenient because it's just one place I have to get you to do everything I want to do. We've got a shopper excuse me. We finish up here. It has an AI generator. That will already edit the podcast. Going to pull out all the little spaces where we said it's going to make our video quality better. It's on it. But then they're going to give me clips to put on pick talk or our Facebook or whatever. Reels, whatever you can call it. But to give me the script of our whole conversation. It's going to put an audio file for me to share it on Apple and Spotify. Isn't that amazing how fast technology is? Spotify understands about all this is and nothing. They took all these up a little people that was doing stuff and they just bought them out and put it in one spot, one stop shop. You know it says Riverside but it says Powered by Spotify. It's been a huge learning curve but they are lucky. I don't know if I said about it in the podcast or prior to it but I didn't really understand. They sent me a little whole little video broken down so I could learn it. Worked out. Worked out pretty good. I don't even know how long the conversation I had and it wasn't recording all the time. That's frustrating, isn't it? But I had audio for it. See, you're intelligent. That's slick. Having that backup upon backup. Come on. It's got like an ocean rule. Everything's written in blood. It's a mistake that was made but I won't do it again. That's right. That's right. It's it's all been a learning curve. Like these dog-own blocks, man. That's almost aggravating things you don't know. It's like microphones. But I don't feel like that I get around the earth. I don't feel like I get. If I don't use the microphone, the MacBooks are pretty good and iPads are pretty good stuff. But I want that crisp, good quality, you know? Yeah, I will. When you're recording a podcast, it's mostly about our voices being heard so people can retain their information. So when you move going to a web, okay, so now you have the a Ross road back on the store. What may y'all go with that venture? That every I'll just to blanket everything that we're doing online. My wife Kayla, she's the brains behind all of a Ross welding and everything we built online. I'm trying to think so we had before we started my welding channel or actually I think no, we launched it earlier that year. A brand that my wife had created, which is called industrial tradition. And she had like she designed the whole the logo, she, I mean, she did the whole nine and created this brand and got merch made. And so that's what we were actually selling first on our family channel was industrial tradition stuff. Shirt stickers hats and stuff. And once we started, you know, the the welding channel lost in Ross channel to focus mostly on the welding stuff, we started creating stuff for it, you know, the online, you know, the hats, the shirts. Now we have tools, grasshoppers, grounder holders, circle burners. We got tools and stuff over there now. Some and steadily adding to it. But but that's where it stemmed was was from her. And just again, another opportunity to try to monetize what we're doing for a living, you know what I mean? One second area. The one thing I don't like about the one thing that you record in our segments on the old anchor platform. This is a never ending thing. As long as we talk this thing is important. My phone records the whole conversation. That's the only thing that I have to complain about that platform right the OG platform that I use is that it supports your hour segments and I always forget that. So sometimes I miss the whole conversation. But to, you know, like to wrap up the monetize thing, Brandon yourself in these towns. Brandon what you're doing is like the huge part of it. So I'm not going to get it to Brandon part of it. I just I'll fix and I have some hopefully the website of the light of this week. It's gonna be t-shirts, fuses, stickers, that sort of thing. I don't really know where it's. I was hoping to have the sweatshirts or the hoodies back in when it was cold weathered. It didn't really line up right. Well, I don't have the time to have that stuff shipped to me, go through it, put on shipping labels and send it on. So the biggest thing was finding somebody you could feel in that, you know, delegate that to them. Okay, I think I have the right setup for that. Yeah, well, that just goes back to it being a job in itself, you know, like having a podcast and trying to have a, you know what I mean, all the legs that can go with the podcast, which one of them is merch, you know what I mean, like that's, that's one of the, you know, like I said, we could have a whole conversation about, about social media and branding and everything because it's fun learning it, but it's, yes, it's not easy. Not for guys like you and I, you know what I mean? So let's, let me hit you with this. So I always like to ask this question to still back to the very first year career. When you're at the, we're working at the, you know, still you're in there. What's a piece of information that you learned in that time that has been valued or still a value in the lot today that you, that you would share with younger kids. What I learned back then, something that's utilized that is still with you today. Well, the first thing that's coming to mind is, is a fabrication, like all my, all my, well, I could just, I could, I could round it. I could include all my fabrication skills, like not all of them because I've learned more over the years, but like the fundamentals of fabrication, framing up a rectangle for a, for just a simple gate, for instance, on jack stands. I learned that whenever I worked there because the guy Bobby Flores was the shot former whenever I worked there, old school guy, we didn't, I think they, I think still are still has a table now because now they've got them tables, but back then we didn't have them. That's how you built stuff was in jack stands, you know what I mean? And so just everything I learned about building stuff in jack stands was super helpful. So like, just the basic fabrication fundamentals. Which relates into reading off those blueprints to some people, but you got welders who can be worked off of assos. Okay, and kind of, I like to ask these questions going on, but we kind of got on and they kind of got skipped out. So the middle part of your career, what bit of information do you learn like when you, not so much when you went to take the test in Oklahoma, but a few tests down the line that maybe year, two and a half, where you got there. What, sorry, what's your question about midway through? Well, a piece of information that you picked up midway that's kind of stuck with you the whole, the whole time. Midway. I mean, you know, if you call midway, I mean, so yeah, like I said, when I was piped line and roughly, I'm glad the AI is going to take out these pauses. I love that you're making me think though. That's good. You know, everybody says that too. I love that you're making me think. Oh, they're just good. It's good for the soul. It really is. I like that. It's how we learn better. I love it. Like generic voice or generic answer to a generic question. Everybody wants to come up with that latest. Like, you know, you have that one little punch line. Um, midway, that's a tough one for me. I'm such a learner and a sponge. I mean, I'm wearing this hat. Like, that's what I do, man. Like, I just learn about stuff. So, but in the middle of my career, what did I learn? Um, I am going to pull out what I learned whenever I was pipelining that I didn't know I was learning really. I kind of knew I was learning it, but was like efficiency as a craftsman. So, like, so, like, just to give perspective, I didn't know how good I was getting at stick welding from welding pipe every day. You know, that repetition repetition is the mother of learning, you know, I didn't realize how, that sounds boastful, but like I didn't realize that I was getting, because to me I just started pipelining whenever I, you know, in the mean seven years, like I was, I just started, like I wanted to keep learning and keep learning about pipelining. So to me, I wasn't, I just begun. So what I'm getting at is I come home while I was waiting on a pipelining gig after 2019. So within the first year of me being laid off my last pipeline job, I was helping a buddy, Mitchell Perry, a mobile rig welder around hero cloma. He had some work, some fence to build and I just went to work for him, welding pip fence. And he, he hasn't pipelined, he, he worked on drill nerds a long time, he's real sharp, he's machinist background, he's, he's really, he's like an engineer in his head, he's got, he's really good at what he does, but uh, uh, no, no experience downhill. So again, giving perspective about who was looking at my welds, you know what I mean? He was like, holy cow, that's slick. And I was like, like I didn't think much of it for sure. After he said that, I kept welding and the rest of the day, I was like, I noticed that I was in a, a rhythm because of, because of pipelining, you know what I mean? Like I was just everything, I, I set up everything, I got everything ready, my raw bucket, the, the organization as a pipeline welder, you learn organization and you learn efficiency, you know what I mean? And so, so in the middle of my career, I learned a lot about, stick welding as a craft, you know what I mean? Like, prepping stuff to make your job go easier. That's what I learned midway through my stick welding career. I've never set the same thing at times, you know, you go, I got some buddies that go things and stuff. And you go over there and them guys don't do things how we do it, you know what I mean? You pretty much know what the tools involve to do what you're doing at the moment. So you gather them all up and you have them all up their hands. These guys, you will understand they get paid by the hour and this is their everyday job. So they, you know, they, they go over there and they get, they, they get a weld made on the, one of going to a post or whatever. And then they need to buff it off, you know, because you can't leave all the guys at pancences. They, uh, you know, you got to get it bucked off there so then kind of whatever you can paint it. They don't have a grounded, you know, they don't have a buffer, they get a back to the trail, get them up there, you know, it's just, he said it's, we're, we're extremely efficient or trying to be extremely efficient at their jobs, even though we don't get paid by the weld, we get paid by the hour, you know, whether we're there for two hours or, you know, 20 hours. It's still, but whatever it takes to make, like, like use on like circle burners and stuff on their website, like that's something to make our job more efficient. You know, or, you know, uh, certain levels of people buy that plant was nice, might serve job more efficient, you know, it's, that's, that's a good point that you brought up there. I really like that because I'm not saying that there ain't combo welders at the exact same way, but they rely on fitters to be after their job, not the welder part of the, the knitters do it the majority of the welders job in the plant to put it in a pot water who is going to put it in the helper or the fitter, you know, you, they work together to get it done. Well, it's not, because most of most people have green helpers, well, like you, like a year and a half, or a year and a month, and I've had plenty of takes time to get them to where they are good fitters, you know, they can read essays and know what to put them in. It always takes time to, for me to have the faith in them to go do it, and for them to take information to go over and look at an essay and be like, okay, I need, I need this part of this drawing, this mini feed or this mini inches, and go over and get that part, and also I need to, I need two flanges or I need a plan to not get a team, you know, it's, the, uh, a helper to a, to a pot water is just another tool to make you more efficient with the job. It's 110, yeah, they can, they can be super valuable if they want to be, because it makes, it makes a, a good welder, a good helper makes a good welder. It's a good helpers, it's a bad, it's a good, bad, you know, some, I know very good welders before I get my bed off on this one, I know very good welders that was never helpers. I'm not saying that, that you have to be a, a good helper to be a good welder, I'm just saying, in my experiences, your helpers might be a good welder, that's just part of it. Oh, for sure, for sure, because you learn everything, uh, well, you just have a lot of the processes, as you're, as you're speaking, I was, what come to mind was like systems and processes like, like we've, we learned, and that's one of mean by craftsmen, I use the word craftsmen, but like, as a, as a craftsman, working by yourself and with a helper, like, a, a, a business owner that, that, that, that trains a crew and then builds another crew, like if you're good at training, you can do this with a crew and a business also, but it's a lot harder, but as a pipeline welder, we were, it's, you know, if you're trying to get better, you naturally build in these systems, you learn what comes next, because it's repetitive, repetitive helps you get, you know, helps you get, helps you be efficient, because you have several chances to, to figure out what's next, you know, and you would think that would come easy, but like, guys like myself at our hard-headed, it takes a lot, you know what I mean to, or something to sink in, like to say that you're a sponge, right, you know, like, you're on a job side and you're doing your job, you know, but you're kind of watching the short next to you and he does something that you're like, I'm going to try that, put it in my repertoire over here and I'm going to try, you know, maybe not right thing because you don't want any, you know, say no, but you know, next day, they look between you all and you, and you try to like, dang, that's, that's, and that's that much quicker right there, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and you might watch another guy over here and he might do something like, I like it, but you carry it back to your truck and you try to do it and it's just don't, don't click for your process, you know, it's, it, it disrupts what you, your flow or whatever, or you just discard it, it's that simple, you know, it's, it's easy and, you know, I say the process wrong that I'm from Alabama and that's what, I mean, make saving the process for the last seven years, I always say the process, I don't know, it's just, you know, I can't remember where I heard that, yeah, that's it, I can't remember where I heard that, yeah, like, yeah, it's funny that you say that because it must have been another podcast from what I was listening to, but yeah, that's, yep, it's everything, it's the Alabama football games and he talked about the process, you know, that's all I ever talked about, so I say the process a lot when it comes to dealing with helpers and building welders and anything and it's a, it's just a, and like, to be a great at anything, you have to be a sponge, you know, you have to take what information is valuable to what you're doing, it either helps you or it doesn't, you got to go to let it go, pick something else up to add to, you know, what you're doing, and they put that kind of in a nutshell there, you know, it's, like you say, it's important to be a sponge, you know, a sponge takes in information, but it's also what it out to, I think that's very, very valuable when it comes to a band of craftsmen or toys, you know, a poplar or a rig welder, where you label us as, then I think that's very valuable to the process, that's right, that's important to be open to go into situations, you know, when you're around new welders, it's, this is one of my, one of my things are things about going to jobs, but when you're around a bunch of guys you don't know, there's a bunch of beatbox out there, you know, it's amateurs, you know, it's, it's one of my favorite things, you know, it's a picture of the air who's now, you know, and a lot of that gets separated from the hoods drop, you know, it's hard, if everybody can stand up and blow, you know, bust out the chest and pop the collars and put on the y-caps, anybody can do that. Going the hoods drop, that's a whole different process in itself, you know, it, that goes to having a very good helper too, but it's only as fast as the weakest link in the car, whether it's a bun or a partner, whether it's your helper, whether it's your self, you're only as fast as it is what you have in that little group, you know, if you're by yourself, or if it's your helper, then it's your, it y'all is little group, you know, but their only as fast as each other gets a bun or a five, you know, you can't move on without one or the other, or you shouldn't move on without one or the other, that's rude in itself, when I was saying that you can't stand up and feel in the phone straight to you, and getting out of the sports as he's coming across the bottom, you know, but, little stuff like that, that's an understanding for you in the bottom all part, it's the hang on on the, probably on the knee here, so I'm like that. Right, right. People's jumped up there and taken off to the next well. What are you doing to do that? What did that person do to deserve that first of all? Second of all, you can't spoil until he gets up there. So what do you have planned? Like, poor. I know, like I mentioned earlier, the pot fence building classes. Is that like you're going to do more on that classroom segments? Yeah, yeah. We plan on like my wife's working on a branding and marketing course right now that we'll add to the, it's like, I mean, just think about like an online trade school, you know, we've got, we've got plans to make all kinds of courses, but yeah, yeah, we've, uh, yeah, all kinds, all kinds. I think that's, I think it's, that's sort of cool. I, I feel like it's, you know, it does not, this is kind of like resorting back to hospital or a high school state here. Like you've got the kids that excel very well in classroom. Like they can go to a welding school or whatever and even excel very well. They can take them to knowledge. And then you got a kid that's kind of standoffish that don't, you know, or, or even a guy, an older guy on this, it could be a guy that just wants to learn. Maybe he's worked for the last 10 years and a lot of those things like, man, I would like to, I would like to know how to do something my hands, but not have to hire somebody to come ahead and build my fence that I want my, to fence in my backyard, you know. No, it's not. I think it's super cool because a lot of people self-image is a huge thing in our life. You know, people don't, they don't think about it too much, but that's what we have. That's why Facebook and Instagram and all that shit has been so successful because everybody wants a human self-image. You know, they want everybody to love them, blah, blah, blah, you know, I put care in long time ago, but a lot of people, that's what keeps that, that stuff going on the earth. You know, it's outweights and all of that on the earth too. Tanned in hand, you know. I watched the thing today on TikTok talking about the leap from 2019 to 2020, the suicide that happened in the country is it is outrageous. And the age bracket in that is even more outrageous. Talking about how they took kids out of school and you know, there's, how there's a house in America, but there's some rough households in America. Well, the kids only way of being away from that was that, you know, six, seven, eight hours a day was at school. It was away from the mental fitness school emotional abuse that was getting at all, you know. And the COVID time took that away from them. They were strapped for that day of the day. I don't know, they just kind of hit me, you know, that kind of thing. Yeah. That's extremely, uh, God dang. Yeah, extremely hard to. That's terrible. The age bracket from 2019 to 2020 on the suicides. I mean, it was like 16 to 22 years old. That, you know, the number jumped like it, it had doubled from the 2000s, very early 2000s, the suicide rate. I can't believe these ag numbers, but it jumped double almost triple bat in one year, not a decade like the, the first statistics was a decade. This was talking about one year, you know, it was crazy. Like they talked about all that stuff, but that's a whole lot of conversation itself. But like kids worry about self-image, you know, people worry about self-image, you know, like everybody wants to think that they know all the answers to everything. So I think the online classroom to wrap this up is a good way for people to be sneaky about it and say, man, you know, I want to do this, but I don't want to go ahead of a boat tape with a bunch of 20 year old kids, you know, like this college to take this class. I think it's great, you know. Yeah, that's an interesting take. Yeah. Yeah. Or maybe they don't have time. You know, maybe they work, you know, 50 hours a week and they can take it on the side. Oh, the benefits are huge, man. I'm amazed at the virtual world we live in. Like I'm so excited about our online trade school because of, I mean, you can literally learn things faster. You can learn about your own pace. You can learn it in your own elements. You can, I mean, all, I mean, but that whole aspect that you brought up, like just the, uh, the, uh, the self-confidence realm, you know what I mean? You can, that own pace, your own area, like, like that mental aspect alone is, that's, that's kind of, I'm not saying I haven't thought about it, but just, I loved hearing your take on it is what I'm saying. That was, yeah, you're right. It's cool. It's kind of learning, like, uh, recording these podcasts, especially when I started doing the video for those people are a little bit different about it. You know, it's not, not everybody reacts the same, which, of course, you spend a lot of time with them. I'm sure if I don't want the dual world are done without it, any of them, yeah, there's spent a lot of time with them again. You know, but like, uh, take both, and since it was a little bit of, uh, wisdom, the mic's messed up and stuff. But anyway, yeah, it was interesting the way he would look at the gamut. You know, I wanted to look at me because we said that it's better than he. Like, he wanted to look at me, but at the same time, he wanted to stare down the camera. It was fun to watch. It was fun to be around the universe. People are, for something else, you just, if you take time to watch people in their mannerisms, sometimes it, it will blow your mind. But thank people too. Oh, yeah. You know, they're such works like, I've planned how to do this. And I'm gonna take care of it. It's what I'm doing here with it. And talk over my hands. This is another thing. I'm bad about that. I try to pull them like this and keep them in my life. People comment on my YouTube videos all the time. Put away from your hands around. I can't help it. Whatever I'm talking about, I get passionate, man. And I go back to make sailing. I mean, 17 years of my life, I watch this guy talk about football TV and it's doing like this. I want you to point it out so I feel like I got to have my answer. Yeah, got to. Whether you can see me or not, I've got to do it. You know, you're on the phone with somebody. So do you think that to not to move or move along, do you think that if the 798, your number was punched tomorrow and they call it and said, we got a job and say big to be outblown. Tulsa don't, don't be sad or whatever side of it is. I don't know. How far is Tulsa from you? Bottom hour. Yeah. So nice, an hour from the house. Would you be in the rest of you going to do that? You think that you got too much on your plate. So, you know, break up, put that on that. Would I be interested? Yes. Would I go? No. Because of, because I'm, uh, yeah, too, too busy with our own stuff right now. If it came, because there's, I want to say, if you get low enough on the wheel, I want to say they, they will. I don't know if you have to take it. No, I think what happened, I think I could be wrong about this. So don't quote me anybody. But I think if you get low enough on the wheel and nobody has taken the job and they need to fill the job, they start calling like they call number one. And if you don't take it, I'm pretty sure you go to the end of the line. And I would just, I would just have to go the end of the line at this point. Like, and I don't, I don't even like it saying that. Like that kind of hurts my soul because, because I, but like I said it, I was real passionate about pipeline. I am real passionate. But, uh, after about three years, it's, it, like I said, it's been about five now, but it took me about three years to kind of come to terms and make decisions, you know, as, as the thing about life is, I mean, life in like business in general, like you have to decide on what it is you want to focus on. If you want to make, you know, if you want to cover any substantial ground in what you're doing, and I, I, I get so much fulfillment out of YouTube that like, I couldn't see myself not doing it. And so just building out these things that people like, you know, like our online trade school and I mean, that's mainly our, our focus is for trying to hone in on. Just building out out and teaching people like about business, the more I learn about business, like the more I want to teach it. And so that's, that's uh, it's, I just see myself like using my platform to help people and to do that efficiently and like good, I unfortunately, I have to say no to pipeline right now. Like I, I don't know. It's tough. Like my optimistic mind, I envision a day where, where I can go on a pipeline job like once a year, you know what I mean? like two or three months then don't go for you know what I mean but I mean we'll see we'll see what happens. I got like to never say never got a lot of things but I feel like seeing guys quit the pipeline and go home you know and and they're just content you know they're good with it and now I've seen guys go home and you see them or you call them on the phone ask me you can just hear it but let's say despair but you can just hear that you know maybe it's not what they add and mine and they I don't know and but I know a lot of guys are extremely happy to be at home they're sold all their stuff they're they're done done done that's because that you know they sold their stuff because they thought they was doing the best for their family and their in their shared experiences which you everybody's got to respect that you know but you just talk to them it's like I don't know they sound like a piece of me's just dead you know and it's I think it's a hard I don't know it and it may not be it may just be the day and the time and you know it may not be that that way you know but I I feel like if I said that I was just done never coming back just done with the pipeline I feel like that I would have a tough time with that overall this this tough if you you know I mean like it's clear that you understand it once you I don't know man it's I think other people could relate to it in other industries but I mean since we're on a pipeline podcast and talk about pipeline like it just once you've delved into learning about welding pipe and the lifestyle and everything like it just I mean it's just it's hard to it's hard to see yourself doing anything else what luckily because it's social media you can uh I mean there's all kinds of ideas running through my head right now like I can I can tie what I love doing to what I do online you know what I mean for sure for sure which is cool same thing you're doing yeah it was like a professional athlete we're professionals in our own ways it's like that absolutely they talk about they miss the uh the competitiveness of you know being on the basketball quarter football building and boxing really what I don't even look at what my costume is going to do you don't need to you don't need the money you don't need to put this the it's just for the sole fact that you want to get in there and break some of the skills at all it's about you know it's it's like I guess just uh and what something gets into it's not so much that it comes right in but it's just it gets so deep into you think that long and for it I think there's always there whether you go home and you got your kids you the dog or whatever you got going on I think that it's hard to beat the feeling of getting the phone call and giving the truth or the truth you can't go and going down my road it's hard it's hard to beat that or you know hanging out enough or a Saturday afternoon with the camping with all the guys you know it's it's something that feel like it's hard to get out of your system where it's you know being on a hundred miles of path with all your buddies as well all day and you can shoot all of them it's just a hard thing to get out of the end you know the money's good I think that's that's another huge problem that people have and they kind of get out of this and go to a normal job you know a full day or a week job when we're all used to working six thousand that's why I feel like it's so successful for like like Bernardo Sanchez or you or or Nate or anybody that's like a trade-in general oriented and then they start their business because they just all the news work family they know how to do it the work's easy the work's easy as part of it it's just knowing the information to do to do the work that needs to be done I think it's the hardest work to do on the podcast it's not that I'm lazy you know I don't have lazy going to my body it's just sometimes I may get to the situation I don't know how to do it to do it I'm like I gotta have this one there a couple of it but I ain't got to do the job right to do it yeah yeah but you're right about the the working you know me when you're that's a that's a change in itself for well work in 60 hours a week and transferring that to you know what we're doing online you're exactly right like that's not the problem we can do that in fact I've had to learn things to to balance that because that's not that'll that creates burnout so anyway but but those that uh just talking about the person that's used to pipelining has been for way longer than you and I have they come home and they're they don't know what to do like or if they were to get a job I've heard stories you know they get you know they get that 40-hour week job and they're going nuts it's not even about the money they just don't know what to do on their two or three days off you know what I mean they're like what do I do you know I mean like like they get literally get bored like they they're so used and uh it's so programmed in their mind to just work minimum 60 hours a week you know but you know they try to go for a mission or do this do that they're bored with that too you know I know a lot of guys are bored at that day but I know just as many if not more that you know they took a they all and they worked five eights you know I you know I didn't know what to do I think that day I just you know I don't know I don't know I think it's a hard thing like my dad always worked he you know he had the very or he worked four days for him and he had the feet locked he worked seven days a week all the life I think it's just uh we don't worry the worry's been retired the last ten years but what do you I mean when the majority of my life they guy got up every day at four o'clock we might make it home at five he might not be home for midnight things like this you know captain captain season and whatever you know you had going on with play it's just I remember being in high school and I was so hard to wake up you know like I didn't want to get up and now I'm going to get ready for the lunch at four o'clock it's all right so we're not only in mind get brother into stuff like like when the company says well we're only working five teens I was like is that part that's part time I think I come out here for 60 hour checks nothing more nothing less that's what you told me when I know what'd be coming I wouldn't come to your job there would 60 hours what they don't know yeah every other week and it's not 60 hours that's two X's in a three-shot rule you know the biweekly paychecks I don't like that do I like to be a set of up and their calories with ourselves in case we have a pump of interest I can just wear that yeah I don't have them much anymore I used to but you know it's just uh we kind of wrap this whole oh podcast that put it in the show where you went to today and you had you was stolen one piece of information out there that you feel you're gonna keep for the rest of your career well your careers buddy I mean all of our careers we say our careers but are like what you got into here with all YouTube so we're doing that you know we're a long time unless it less against or you can hire people to do it you don't have to do it you know whatever it does but if you say something you're gonna keep with you one information that you learned from your time at the vocational school till now is that information like what's just one thing that you know is gonna be with you until a good gem of dirt um no the questions yeah harder yeah it's uh this one's a little easier than the last thing I will say but uh narrowing it narrowing it down uh one piece of information um something along the lines of well I would I mean something that I that that I would keep with me the rest of my life like something that I've learned over the course of my life career yeah is just what I say at the end of every one of my videos which is what's on my hat that's what I would say staying open-minded learn something every day if you're not learning you're you're you're dying you know what I mean like you're you're not growing you're you're shrinking you know I can't remember the saying but for sure well you're danger not uh moving forward you know once you quit yeah exactly I can't learn you're done growing for sure and you're not moving forward you're not gonna you're gonna see that your relationships you're gonna stand still the career's gonna stand still you know it's all about growing and evolving that's for sure like that after you know with that but I just wanted to see to uh to kind of add to it less less brown I heard him say I don't know who originally said it but motivational speaker guy he said he said uh you're never too old to learn and you're never too young to teach so to kind of add live that the the whole concept of like I mean it kind of just goes back to what I said about being open-minded like like looking at others as you're equal instead of you know less than because it's easy to look at a kid and be like oh he don't like I can't learn enough from him but if if you're that open minded that you can learn from a kid or you can learn from like a baby that can't even talk or somebody that's homeless like if you can't if you're not looking at them is equal you can't learn from them because you're not valuing them so it's like just that's why I brought out that quote because it's like you're never too old to learn but you're never too young to teach either you know like set whole open mind in this thing I think it's huge, it's huge part of life. And as I got older I'm not saying that I'm a liberal but the open mind in this could be more accepting like I used to treat my open certain kind of way because I was taught damn habits when I was open you know the hard ass you know gotta cut some over everything while I'm trying to get better and better so I become a better teacher in turn make better welders than I'm releasing them to the world better prepared not you know and that way they make better welders that are even more prepared because it's such a guy. Whole reason that the podcast even exists because I wanted to capsule people's stories and information where people the younger generations may hear like you know they can play it's out there in the world it's not you know like and that people know that you know like more than what you think more people are open to teaching and they already just being assholes but in our line of work I mean like I'm not saying that we don't know a thousand assholes but you know two thousand teachers you know it's I really go about it there's an even assholes where teach something you know you just gotta dig through all the BS on top of it to get to what they're really trying to say they just don't know how to present it I may and you're speaking my language tie you're speaking my language because that it's what comes to mind when you say that is like asking questions how important to ask in question is questions is but what you just said about weeding through all the fluff and the bad attitude and all that stuff they don't mind doing it you just gotta you can't take stuff personal and you got to ask questions because you want to learn and you got to just give them been in food out understand that they you know what I mean like you got to try to work on that mindset that you're speaking my language dude absolutely you know I would somebody present you the information is that it's not really how you want to hear it but just take it and you'll find the answer to your question most of the time and the ramblings of the bullshit that they said you know it just they didn't know how to articulate it any other way than how they're an asshole for this way that they are you know it's like clay when he first come to work from us and there is no stupid questions but any question you got to ask me I'm here with Jeremy Vantigope I don't remember exactly what I was going to ask you but he asked me something I said that's a stupid one you don't you don't you don't you don't I've ever said which is the first two questions said buddy if you know I'll ask a question I can't remember what it was it was the most simple thing and then a couple of months later we kind of run into the same thing again and I said clay this is why it's that way because they don't know what to do with that we're good but they don't want you to do what people don't because nobody has a clue what's going on and so I'll tell you being a welder that when nobody has a nod they what's going on okay else in the computer it's always good it's all I see we're just going to kick back over you know I'm going to try to pull with what they got you on it is draw off H.A.'s what did you just say first one was that one is the stupid question now it makes sense this we see it cross now one of the normal units the common occurrence in about time that's too funny he has a business concept because he was a college for business so he he's very professional the way he handles the immature and I'm not that well you know I didn't get it popular because it wasn't even about I don't think it was so much about the money or the lifestyle I think it was just that you know it looked like it was so much down on fun you know when you see it you make the characters that's involved in it you see it you decide man I don't know it's like being part of it's you know the creature or whatever you just you know you're not the bearded lady you know you're whatever's in the picture that's above the bearded lady you know the the guy that swallows the sword maybe I don't know it's yeah I don't know I don't know it's good you know I think for a lot of people but like I didn't have a lot but I know a lot of guys you know they didn't have siblings and all this stuff you know I think the brother is wrong the bad aspect of it you know it's a family you know like it a lot of it's not so much anymore but you know eight, nine, ten years ago there's more family oriented I feel like I wouldn't so many people trying to be this alpha and this alpha measures flashing you know you're always going to have people like that but I think it's when we couldn't drive it's more you know it's it's a brother and the family you know oh oh for sure I know what you're saying I'm picking up the line down it is for sure like you said you still have to look to the 798 talk to those and stuff like that you know because you missed the camaraderie or whatever you know well you always and I have the bad aspect of the thing you do you know like another thing that I do you have just a tune which I'm sure you you have way better hang on but I am is the negative comments that you get oiled you know because you have a business that your name's attached to you know your mobile world that's awesome wrong you know me I work for a company so whatever I say and do they're not affiliated with unless I move right away you're on the third property which is talent realizes I know I can get away from it like I can film the blanky of blank and it takes off and it's not a good deal you know but I feel like you're the first to handle that that negative that negative energy better than when per se I have I appreciate that I don't I'm not sure where that comes from but uh uh yeah I've combination of things yeah my uh my first start of YouTube believe or not I had uh kind of a bad attitude like uh well because I didn't understand some of the dumb questions like Kayla would tell me she'd be like somebody wants to know what uh something about your weld truck or something about whelzing and I'm like well you just do it you know or whatever it was like you just figured out you know me and so all I'm doing is crediting her for keeping me humble in the beginning of my uh like public in the beginning of my public appearance because she was very aware of you know what I mean like like she could just see it part of me that I couldn't see you know what I mean and so she's taught me a lot about you know what I mean about a lot of things like this is a hole another do I could go deep into but so I credit her I mean some of my raisin and and I don't know some of that comes natural but there's a lot of it that didn't that I've been learning over the years you know what I mean for once when I ask the question like I'm I can't even I want for this the when when somebody asks you a question that's not directly involved in the trade like like on YouTube channel they're they're asking a genuine question you know and you're in a position to make them not feel like a don't worth asking a question you know like I think that's a very fine line to walk out there you know to where like if you said something to me and I didn't understand a nice question and you pop back off to me well I'm not gonna get my feelings about it you know but I'm I'm in the industry like I know how people are but somebody else could be like oh man I got to quit like they're up to date you know they don't know you they don't personally know you which you said that's a dumb question you know they all like they do the opinion when you walk around I don't know the social media thing is it's a very good tool but also uh if you tool at the same time how do you want to say it it's uh a double-edged sword totally I totally agree with that for sure it is we got to be we got to be uh well we just got to hold ourselves accountable you know I mean we we got to remember that we have a choice you know I mean for sure as far as how we use social media you know what I mean the uh a little bit I'll wrap it up here um you want to you want to drop all your links uh the YouTube and uh I know it's a rosswell.com for the uh website yeah a rosswell.com for uh like resources like free download and stuff tools list and uh um our online stores there of course the mobile welding is right there on the front page uh but yeah online stores a rosswell.com and then of course there's links there that also go to our trade school but to go directly to the trade school it's a rosswell.com.com. And uh yeah those are the two main ones yeah. I know we didn't cover everything right here at an hour or two hour or almost two hours. The uh I hope to circle back I want to I kind of got this list that runs through August the first week of August and uh what I'm going to circle back through the first 10 or 11 podcasts that I had if I can get them guys back home now that I had this a smooth way of doing it, circle back through and I would like to come back to a couple of other ones. Like awesome priests, we didn't get to cover anything with UI. We don't know where the first part is with the people and all. Sometimes you just scrape in the shell and it's a lot of information to pack, you know. It's like a 15 minute video for you that you're trying to cut down the five minutes. It's a lot of information to shove into it. It's easy to do the podcast because, you know, I've got a bunch of people who listen to this. I don't know. Drive home on Saturday night. You know, we're going to drive two or three hours to go home. We're going to drive two or three hours back on Sunday, you know. But I never get to everything that I want to know, but I'm going to try and keep it around with two hours a month. I'd love to be back for sure, man. That's what I was getting at, and you know, I would like to put up another table if you want to run through this list again, like to set up another time where we can sit down and dive more into maybe the business market in part of it, you know, maybe. Yeah, I'd be glad, Ty, I'd be glad I've had a pleasure visiting with you and it's been a good time. I enjoy, I enjoy these conversations more than you realize. So, it's good for our industry, it's good for a lot of things outside of Adol Moro and Adol Moro. So it's just good information out there, you know, people understand. I think when you have conversations like this, people can set them reciprocate the information because you know, it's more of a genuine conversation, it's not so much a question and answer. I'm not sure. Sure. I'm not sure. It's always fun, and I mean, I've always been interested in history and biography and all that stuff. So it's always interesting to stand down with somebody and learn their stories, you know, learn about them. Oh, for sure. Well, I sure appreciate your time. I know it's nonsense. It's a law. It was a law. It was a law. But it's a good one. It's a good one. I appreciate it. It's my pleasure. It's my pleasure. Wow. Wow.