Atlanta: Denny Hit His Wreck Quota of the Day

That was gonna be my question to you is what is the benefit of doing that? You're coming to the end of this. Why don't you ask 'em? Yeah, he's your friend. Okay, let me text him right now. I mean, you got a sticker on your computer for him. What are you gonna ask? Work for work. Hey Kyle, Denny wants to know. Whatever you want me to ask. The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. I believe that I've been a competitive for 20 years. Opinions from tonight's podcast, "Strictly by us," you're gonna hear it from my point of view. I'm a fighter. No, you are not. This spoils the victory for Jared Allen. He's got better luck than Rick and Drake to win. I know, you do. Two trophies missing from your collection, a championship and the most popular driver. Someone told me that their drinking game is gonna stay for sure. Yeah, and I've already said it. Hey guys, welcome to "Action's Determinal." Host Atlanta, race two, or the 2026 season. We had Kyle Busch winning the truck race, continues his streak of winning in NASCAR's top three. I don't know, there's a statistic or record for everything nowadays. Winning at NASCAR's top three level for 22 years in a row. Something like that. Congratulations, Kyle Busch. Yeah, yeah, awesome. Congratulations. Oh, here it is. Oh, no, that's an old stat. It seems like if you search Kyle Busch, streak on X, this random thing comes up. Random stat comes up for every year. Well, that continues. It's good for Kyle, I'm sure to get back to victory lane. I know that when he was running all those, I'm gonna say Busch series, I know it's, but it was Busch series back then. When he was running that series on Saturdays and winning a lot, it was big for his self confidence whenever he did that. And I'm sure he felt good going in the Sunday after a Saturday win. The biggest takeaway out of this race is the throw sport trucks were really fast. I mean, I was looking at the, even on TV, the back of their trucks were like two inches lower than everyone else's. They apparently had their stuff trimmed out pretty much. Ben Rhodes was really, really fast. He had issues, they run him out of gas. I don't think they ran him out of gas. It was quite a good truck race. The field got strung out at what and stuck two by two. It looks like trucks that really were fast and handled well could make their way to the front. It was a fun race to watch. Social media had a buzz about kind of the shortening of the race, but I don't get it. That there had no issues with that. They all knew it was happening. Well, yeah, the only thing Fox could have done differently was just give us an update because I'm sitting there and keep looking at my clock on my phone versus like it should just be on the screen, 20 minutes left, count it down from 20 minutes or whatever it might be, right? Because I was looking at my phone, I was like, it's 420, it's 420, and the whites would be out. And so I got a little confused on why the white wasn't out at the world clock for 20. It seemed like it was a couple of, about two laps later than what I expected it to be. But if you just have the counter, I think that that cleans it up. No issue there otherwise. Because, you know, think about it, you didn't miss anything. You saw the great finish. That great finish would have happened just a couple laps later. So you didn't miss anything. You just missed a few laps of there towards the end, but they raced that way because they knew the end was minutes away. So you just got that ending sooner than what you did before. So, yeah, the race fans, you really didn't miss anything. I thought it was good for an ass card to really commit to. We're gonna get these two races in today, not drag these guys back here on a Sunday morning or Monday or whatever it might be that they have to do. So I thought it was a good move. And it's really important overall for the sport to hit certain TV windows to make sure you're not switching channels and when a network then comes in, you gotta make sure that they have there a lot of time. So yeah, no issue on my end on that. Sheldon Creed. Big winner in the O'Reilly finally. Finally. Like you said, after the race, not kind of how he thought or was gonna draw it up, being that some other guys had issues and then he finds his way there, but he's had plenty go the other way. And so I think he's deserving of some good fortune at the end of that race on the last lap. I knew, like I felt it brewing because I knew with Ross up there and Austin up there, I just thought, where Austin is particularly good is the blocking. And typically when he, you know, if he, he doesn't do it much. If he does throw a late block, which again, he doesn't do it a lot. Typically he gets those guys to back off. Like he gets them to just check up and then he just keeps his spot. I knew Ross wasn't gonna do that. I knew that with Ross thought he had an inch of position, he was probably gonna take it all. And I mean, it was a great finish. It, you know, no, I don't think it was any fault of either one of them. Austin was trying to hold his position, knew that with the run that the 32 had, he likely would have cleared him in three. There was such a disparity at speed difference between the two that if Austin just chooses to not block there, the 32s come in with such a run, he definitely is not gonna win. So he just tries to shut it off. Maybe it's a millisecond late. I mean, just really, really small. It wasn't even, it was close to not even being considered a late block. And, you know, luckily Austin held onto it, didn't have a terrible finish. And also, Chesting got a decent finish for Jordan Anderson there. So I thought it was a fantastic race. Again, strung out a little bit more. It seemed like the Cup race was the most bunched up the field was between all three series. We talked about that. A lot of that is just how much drag and downforce this car has. It just puts everyone a little bit tighter bubble, but it also, there was no fuel saving on Sunday, simply because track position was the more important factor. And he had a little bit more field spread than a normal speedway race. So, Shelton Creed, deservedly gets his win for the first time after 15 second place finishes. Congratulations to him. Is that what, and the Hoss, racing team. Hoss factor team. Yeah, congratulations. And then did you see Sam Mayer after the race? Oh, forgot that. Congratulations. Shelton Creed. Yeah. It's so interesting because you saw many of the Cup cars sliding through the infield grass and not have any damage or anything like that. And then Sam's going like 30 miles an hour and just bulldozes a drain apparently. So yikes. Yeah. Yeah, big winners at the storehouse and then big losers at the same time. Right. Right. We're coming home with two cars and now they're coming home with one. Yeah, is that kind of what we're looking to see out of the Super Speedway racing? What we saw on the Cup race on Sunday. Yeah, it's what we want. It's to where handling means something, right? It means something more than what it does on the on the big speedways. So yeah, that's kind of the recipe. We talked about it last year during after Atlanta was that, you know, this is what we aspire to to an end and tell they get to be. The challenge will be is that you're really going to have to take out a lot of downforce and drag to do it. And, you know, from the air dynamic people that I talk to, they're like, this just, this car has so much drag. You get the spoiler like for the same size spoiler that the Jin six car has to the Jin seven, the Jin the new next Jin car has 200 more counts of downforce and 100 more counts of drag for the same roughly the same spoiler size. So you'd be, it'd be really, really tough. And Dale junior had an idea was that, Hey, if you're running 100% throttle, you should be able to pull away from a pack running 60. And I really like that. And there's, there's some sort of math equation there that that can be had. The issue will be, I don't know that you'll be able to get it even with a ton of spoiler taken off because it's because it's the body. It's the body of these next Jin cars that that are just super, super draggy. So I really don't know how you get there, but anything would be better kind of than what we've got. [BLANK_AUDIO] Any amount of spoiler they could take off on the bigger tracks, I think would be a step in the right direction. So incrementally, it'd be like everyone wants 900 horsepower or 1000 horsepower. Hey, we can't get there, but we'll give you 80 more. Like that's what I'm saying. Like if you cut, you know, just take the Lexan off the spoiler or something like it's, it give you just a crumb of what you want. Is running racing the Atlanta race mentally taxing more so than other racing? I want to ask that because it feels like watching it that if you fall asleep on a lap or two and miss two to three runs, you can easily go from the top five to outside the top 20 real quick. And then all your progress you've made is gone. If you don't have a super fast car. Yeah, absolutely. It is. Yeah. And it seems like the best way to do it is just take every run that you get. Kind of the mindset on the other super speedways is that you get in line and you find a line that you think's going to go and you just stay in that line. It seems like the guys that are staying up front are the ones that are just taking every run they get. And then, you know, yes, they might wash themselves from second to six, but then they take the next run. They're back the third and what have you. So there's not much patience to this type of racing. So absolutely. You're on kill more here at this track every lap than then you are like a Daytona taildegger for sure. Does that take a certain skill set? It, I don't know that it takes a different skill set because everyone can do it. It's just some are really good about understanding the runs that they have. They know that they can clear so they go ahead and take it. I don't know. I think that there's just some that are better than others. Obviously, like, bubble walls, for instance, he's always at the end of these super speedway races or towards the front, you know, a tile or a reddit scored the most points on super speedways last year. Now, he's won two in a row. Like it might seem a shock to everyone, but it's really not. He actually scored the most points in everyone last year on these tracks. So it's, I don't know where the surprise is there other than, you know, the guy didn't have a fender at the end. They're fast and they're getting it done, but as far as skill set wise, I don't think it takes a different skill set. I think if you can create runs at one speedway, you can create them others. Is it a mindset thing that like you just have to, it's more of a mindset, I think, that's probably, yeah. That's probably more, more, more true. It just seems like the guys that are up front are the ones that we know as being consistently aggressive everywhere. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. Did that not having a right front effect? I learned all looked like it helped them. Maybe. I mean, yeah, I mean, did you see the clip that Bozy put on real? I have a son real. Now we don't know what happened up top. So when you're looking through Tyler's windshield on that restart, they say it was 21st to 3rd. I thought it was 18th maybe. Maybe. Dale or not could never. Just kidding. But member Dale's big thing was 18th, the third or it showed 20th is when the video started. Yeah. I think Tyler's happened in a much shorter amount of time. I love it to people just going to get so true. It's going to be the title. No, don't do that. Don't do that. The way Travis is the one that comes up for the titles of this thing. So it was incredible watching him. He held the bottom and it just looked like he could hold more gas than everybody else. And then everyone was washing up top. Everyone's pushing. But it was it was amazing to watch. He got to the front really, really quickly. And yeah, usually as long as you can keep your bumper, like the fender is not that important. As long as you can keep your front bumper intact, the fender over the tire usually doesn't mean a ton. Because it hits the front bumper and then it goes over the car. Well, the fender is not something that's sitting straight. But it's more horizontal with the air. So it's just going over it. It's not hitting it necessarily straight. So I think you can get away with no fender. It appears you can get away with no fender and still be fast. But it looked like it just kind of broken a really advantageous area where it didn't affect his handling too much. See, I figured as long as he was the second car, he'd be fine. And once he got out to the lead though, that's where he wouldn't be able to hold on. But at the end though, it didn't matter. It didn't. It didn't appear he lost much of any speed at all. Yeah, I didn't see any difference in his car post that fender gone. That's the amazing thing with these cars. I know he said before, if it looks bad, the car is probably fine. It's the stuff that you can't see that is when the car gets screwed. Yeah. I think it's also just a testament to how fast those 2311 cars were and how well they handled. Because you saw the same amount of bubble. He was able to stay up front all race. Yeah. And they were fast. They could hold a lot. I noticed when I was around them, they were behind me. They could hold their line a little better than I could with being closer to me. So they certainly had some good handling characteristics that they really leaned on and it helped them. But beyond that, they just were aggressive as well. And so yeah, they were fine. To talk about what you were saying Travis is like on the body of my car, it was intact. But I had every wheel had gotten hit. And so we're trying to fix toe links and the right rear, then the left rear. And I'm like, I think the front got hit as well. And so they just try to fix what they could. And it was actually what stinks as I kind of had resigned to the fact that I'm going to be able to hang on to the pack but not do anything. Like in the minute I got around a car and especially was running a pie. I mean, I was out of control. So I figured I met my wrecking quota for the day. So I was just at that point. All right, let's get this thing to the finish. They worked on it again, got it quite a bit better. So for that green and my checker, my car was actually back to 93% of normal. So I think there was still some front end suspension damage or left rear suspension damage that they couldn't fix all of it, but our team did a great job not losing a lap and getting those toe links fixed. It was really good. How were you up until that point where you suffered that damage? I felt like I was okay. We played the strategy at the end of the second stage to save a little fuel. So we could take less than take two tires to then flip back towards the front of the field. That works. We get the lead. That shuffled. There was a few moves. I wish I could take back. This is the reason I got shuffled. I think it was not being aggressive enough. And so I lost my track position there. I mean, when I say I went back to about six or seven, Joey came in there. He got tight. I was really stubborn to not just get back in line instead. No, I want to hold the, I want to be the top lane. I don't want you to come merge into my lane and ended up losing it at that point. Yeah, TV. So did you lose it as a result of what Joey was doing? It was a mix. No, it was a mix. Joey apologized for it, but again, I feel like I had, I could have done something different. It appeared to me when I watch it back and I look at the data that more than likely when the 20 drove to his inside left rear that more than likely dumps some air on his spoiler caused him to get tight. And you see us on these mile and a half, right? The turn the wheel, you slide up the racetrack, you get really, really tight. I was starting to make my run back on the outside of him. As he's getting tight, I now get in a horrible arrow position with my left front just off his right rear corner. He comes up, it taps my left front. I then start getting loose because of, I mean, that arrow spot is really, really, really bad. And it just at that point, I just then bounce off the wall and calls the havoc. So the weather, the wind, just in Atlanta, causing issues. It was less of a factor than I thought it was going to be, but it was a factor. Everyone was tighter and turns three and four with the wind direction that it was. It didn't have as big of an effect in turns one and two, but I just thought, you know, for me, it didn't have much of effect, but no, it wasn't as much as you I certainly thought it was going to be to start the race. You know, the wrecks that happen most of our straightways are started in the corners, but I didn't think it the win really kind of started any of the wrecks. Are you glad to take a break from Super Speedways? Yep. Ready. I saw a stat out in the person on Twitter provided 13 drafting races since 2024. You've been in 12 accidents. That sounds right. Sounds right. Feels right. Are you excited to go to a roadcourt? I'm excited to use the break. Sure. Yeah, I'm excited to go to Coda. I feel like just I mean, it's painful, right? Because it's, you know, I've really changed my mentality to try to stay up front as much as I could. They'd turn 500. We had the best average running position of anyone by two spots. Still crash. Like I don't know what else. Some of it's luck. Some of these wrecks that I've been in is like, I feel like I kind of had a roll in them. So I don't know. Just on a bad Super Speedway run. That's for sure. I get the with the chase format, the points are more important, everything. But our fans media, everyone kind of overblowing the importance. I feel like we're overreacting to the standings after week two. Well, of course, I'll tell you this, no team knows where they are on actual speed until we get to race three or four, whatever it might be. Even at Coda, you know, we're not, you know, we'll have an understanding of kind of a little bit of car speed, maybe short, you know, you draw some short track connections there. But until you get to the Phoenixes, the Vegases, tracks like that, that's where most of the development will go on in the offseason now. There is some development, no question about it on Super Speedways and what have you. But it's, yes, it's always this season, it's always the season to overreact when you're a couple races in, especially when you have these types of race tracks. But the but they matter. Yeah, you can't just downplay and say, oh, that doesn't matter. You'll win and then you'll vault yourself up the playoffs and it doesn't work like that anymore, which I'm happy about. Oh, I'm not happy considering your 27 27. But what did Aaron Rogers say a few years ago? R-E-L-A-X. Relax. Relax. Unless you're, you're a Tyler Redick. I don't, you got a 40 point gap on the guy's very relaxed. I'm impressed because I assumed you win the 500, you party, you do all the media obligation you have to do that like there's going to be a little bit of a hangover. Well, he was sick. As about to say, I heard Tyler had a little bit of a flu. That is a classic work in your ass off. And once you're done, you know, your body just crashes. I mean, I don't know about you because you, you're a granola and you, you know, you feed your body all the right things and whatever. Probably part of the 4am club. Let's forget you. Trave. Bring it over here. All right. So like, you know how sometimes you go on vacation or you go on like the two day bender? Not even a bender. Like that's an understandable sickness. But yeah, you're traveling also. You're traveling. You're doing this. You're doing that. And then all of a sudden, your next day at home, you relax. You're like, huh. And next, you know, you're sick and different climates. You're new. Like it's warm weather, cold weather. You're just, and so I totally expect the Tyler to be sick going into Atlanta. Unfortunate. We had a big pinnacle event, which is a pinnacle bank. One of the sponsors on the 45. They got there for very first win. By the way, as a primary for Tyler, which is awesome. It's a great ride to be on the 45 right now. And so he didn't make that event on Saturday. I believe it was Saturday night. So it's cool that they got to experience that on Sunday. But Tyler was like, you know, I got some meds on Sunday morning. Felt a lot better. And so he still finds a way to lock in. And that's what is important is that on Sunday, when you strap in, the winning net goes up. Have you done everything that you're supposed to do to prepare for the event? And I had always had no question that he was going to be ready for that. What's it like racing sick? I think is it? I don't know. Do you kind of forget about those other symptoms? Like you're in a sauna more or less? Yeah. I always feel better. Usually after getting out of the race car, it's something about the heat. The vibration actually makes me feel better when I'm not feeling great. But that's just me. I mean, Tyler, I know you got really sick at Darlington in 2024, actually, threw up in the car during that last race. Was he sick at home said too? Yeah, he does get sick a lot. He does get sick a lot. I don't know. I'm working on his immune system. Yeah, we got Jared. Can he help him out? Not sure what it is. But yeah, he got through it. And I don't know. For me, it just, it doesn't bother me that much in the car. It's more out of the car. While we're on it, back to back wins for 2011, are you getting sick of going to victory? They didn't congratulate you in another driver? Nope. No. I actually felt a little better about like I wasn't as bummed after Atlanta than I was Daytona. Now, if Daytona was a bigger win for the team and whatnot, so that made up for it. But it was like, we're still able to rally. And when I say rally, a lot of it was because of a trishon and cars that that had crashed. But I'd been on the other side of that as well. So to get a 13th place finish, I don't know. Had you asked me before the weekend, would you take 13th? I would have said no. But considering all the things that happened in the middle of the race, I would have said, yes, I'll, I'll, I'll take it. So it's not, not what we drilled up. We're not where we want to be. But on to the next. Just done what we can do about it now. What that final restart, Bubba's got the lead. He makes a move. What could have he done differently, should have done differently? Well, you want to talk about that one or a host of our? Because host of our got one of the guys before that. You talk about Bell. Me go that one first. I thought that the. I thought the TV guys did really well at calling a spade of spade right off the bat. They started backing it up a little because they were like, oh, well, maybe there's a whole harvestered firm. He's like, there might have been a hole, but it wasn't a hole by the time he got there. And so I agree with all that. You know, it's very, very tough. It's tough to watch. If you're, the media loves it, by the way, if you'll hear, if you want to see what the media thinks, just ask him and they'll tell you, oh, we love host of our. Well, no question. You do because he's given you some content for you to talk about as a competitor, though, like eventually it does. It's going to come back around. He'll be in a position where he thinks he's about to win and then someone will decide that he's not going to and that's going to suck for him and his team on that day. But it's just, you're just never going to get anyone to give you a break when you clearly won't give anyone else a break. And his style is his style and he's free to be whoever he wants to be. He's certainly exciting to watch if you're a race fan. He's not exciting to watch if he's racing your guy because you know that there's a heavily possibility that he's going to run into him. So it just seems a little wild right now and I feel like it's not the moves. Those are not the moves that you have to make to win the race nowadays. I don't like, I think he's missing a little bit of the just the the craftsmanship of winning these races beyond just having a fast car. There's just so much more to it. And I don't know, it's tough to watch as a competitor. But I don't think we're gonna do anything about it. I think you gotta just let it play itself out over time. I think that he knows that anyone he gets into, he's gonna have to be on his tippy toes from when he's racing around those guys. Which is a tough way to race, it really is. But if you don't care, you don't care. And that's okay too. So I think you just on kill, like we said earlier in the show that for this track, being aggressive rewards as drivers and so he just on kill normally anyways. And so, but there's times where you need to just dial it back just a touch. - Let me ask you this. I keep hearing what he's going for it. So if I'm three car links behind Carson Hosevar and I go through the grass and to turn one and then wipe him out, is that just me going for it? Or is that me being an idiot? - An idiot. - Okay, so that's, I think we have to stop using the, well, it's just going for it. Well, there's a difference. And certainly feel like that there's better decisions that could be made. But we're talking about the same thing we've been talking about for a year and a half. I don't, I almost hate that we're bringing more attention to it because it's just, I think he likes that. But didn't, like so last week, Riley Herpes went for it. What's the difference? - Riley Herpes went for it. - Is it because he doesn't have the track record of doing this repeatedly? - Well, Riley wrecked into a guy that was on his right recorder that he could not see. Carson could see that there was no hole there to be had. Riley has come into the start finish of the day, tone of 500, the two cars in front of him are side by side. He's running five miles an hour faster. He's just turning right into the, what he sees is open racetrack. And unfortunately, the six gets there and he makes contact. I think that is vastly different than just bowling through someone that's right in front of you. - Yeah. Now, do you think that those, there should be like, he's the new Ross. A couple of years ago, Ross was doing that and we solve Ross now grow. - Well, I think that, well, then there's a conversation that he probably should have with Ross. Well, why aren't you doing the same things that you're doing two years ago? And maybe Ross could give him some help to say, I thought it was the right way, but here's why it didn't work. Maybe? I know that I think he looks up, well, maybe not, I mean, they were trying to help each other last night. But they also had issues as well last year. So I don't know whether Carson is gonna be as receptive to advice. I don't know whether he is or he isn't. - And he's openly said he doesn't have friends in the cup. Like, so does he have someone that can you can talk to? I don't know. - I don't know. For what it's worth, Carson knows what it's worth to quote after the race was that he choked. What do you mean? I mean, he had, I guess he saw himself having an opportunity to win and he blew it. I would say he didn't choke though. That's how I'm going to say. Choked means that you never had the lead. Yeah. I didn't see an opportunity for him to win the race. Yeah, even that is, I don't understand his reality there. Is that I never saw an opportunity where it's like, oh my God, this is Carson's race to win. - Now he did, there was in the interview, he did say like, I haven't seen the video so, but like, yeah, probably I did mess up. Like, so he, there is some quotes of him owning his mistake with Bell. But I mean, I guess he did start on the front row after that. - True. - Yeah, but, yeah. Yeah, but he never was in position to win the race. Yes, just because you started on the front row, it doesn't mean you get the push, it doesn't mean you got clear. That doesn't, that wasn't your race to win unless you had the lead at some point and then made a move that made it to where you didn't win. Is that making any sense? - I guess he just was in the mix, but it wasn't. Choking means that you made some sort of decision that kept you from winning. - I mean, I guess this transition's perfectly into that next lap where, you know, the outside lines come with a run, right? Bubba moves up to try and block the move. - Yeah. - And went too far. Yeah, if you look kind of as a straight on view, Bubba shifted lanes and listen, there's, it's easy for us to say here on Monday after we know how it all happens, what to do. And everybody, every driver, including Bubba would have said, I'm gonna go ahead and stay on the bottom. He thought in the moment because, listen, he had been controlling both lanes throughout the whole second half of that race. So more than likely, and, you know, I'm gonna speak as a podcaster, trying to let you guys know that are listening. If I'm Bubba, here's what I'm thinking. Here's why I'm making that move. Me. I see the 77 coming. I'm thinking, okay, he's pinned in beside the 45, so he can't go anywhere except for, if he wants to try to pass me, he's gonna have to go high. So he's pinned. So I'm gonna go up there, take his run, probably get hit by him. It's gonna push me out, and then I'm gonna go right back down to the bottom. So I'm gonna just make sure he never gets beside me, so I don't have that 50/50 shot racing to the flag. I wanna just control both lanes. The downside is that when he moved up, you could see he went from below the first dotted line on the bottom to actually left sides right at it or above it, and now you've left the middle. And it was just for a split second. So open that Carson was, we saw the restart before, he's gonna take a hole that's not there, much less one that's pretty much there. So I wouldn't have counted on him pushing you. I think that he was gonna do everything he could and everything he could and everything that he couldn't do to win. And so it just was a risky move pulling up in front of him, knowing that the likelihood of him pushing you out is low, but I think what Bob was thinking is that he's pinned by the 45. I don't think he realized how much space was between the 45 and the 77 side to side. And so when he pulled up, the 77 had just too much of a gap there that he could hit, and it shoved him out. - If he stays in front of Tyler though, one, two, is Hoesvar are gonna be able to even make that run and get around him. 'Cause they were talking about how like the second place cranking about it. - Let's think about it. So more than likely what happens is it comes down to whoever gets the push down the front straight away. So if he doesn't pull up in front of the 77, the 77 does get to Bob's right rear. He now gets beside him. We interturn three, both of them are gonna be wide open. They're gonna stay side by side. Then it's gonna be a matter of which car in the second lane gets through three and four the best. Because when you come off turn four, then it's a battle of who gets the bump first down the front straight away. Is it Tyler pushing Bubba or is it who is up there behind Carson? - Was it Ross? - It was Brisco, wasn't it? I'm not sure. But it was just was gonna be a battle over who was, who was gonna be closer. So again, but I think Bubba didn't wanna put himself in that 50/50 chance of, I'm gonna be side by side on this final lap. It's gonna be one of the two of us. I think he was just trying to ensure that Carson never got beside him. I think he would have done it no matter who was having that run up top. Bubba had made that move a hundred times before in the last half of that race and just it had worked. But just barely overshot the middle there and went a little too high to give too much of a gap. - Do you have to take into account that that guy that you're moving up to block on if you overshoot it just a little bit? He's also gonna make a hole. - Yeah, which was my point is that, he shot a hole that wasn't even there in the previous restart. So you gotta expect something. But also do you think that's part, Bubba's mindset here's like, I just gotta keep this guy behind me at all costs. I do not want him side by side with me. - I think you're probably safer with Carson when he's beside you than behind you. And plus you're in the bottom lane. So you're out. actually in the leveraged spot. When it comes to air dynamics of this car, I think you would certainly choose to be the bottom car versus the top. Now the top, why the most momentum are usually off the turn four because of the banking. But if it comes down to who's going to crowd who, above is in a more powerful spot by being on the bottom. So just stick to the bottom here in hindsight. In hindsight, but he had a two tenths of a second to decide and we had 12 hours or 15 hours and a bunch of camera and a bunch of carryings. The decisions are easy to make on my couch on Sunday. I don't know. I get it. What's surprisingly is even post-race when I kind of look back at certain scenarios and you know, kind of what I could have done different. It seems really, really obvious when I watch it back from like a bird's eye view when I choose this lane or that lane, I'm like, "Oh my God, why didn't I get up there?" It's certainly easier when you have the bigger picture painted. Some other events in this race go back a handful of laps. Kyle Bush slid up in front of Noah Gregson and then so the car spin to the inside wall. I never saw a good replay of that. All I saw was the one from the inside camera when he's sliding down towards the inside wall. So what happened there? Well, TV, Kevin Harvey, Clint Boyer said that he slides up and then gets out of the gas and then Gregson just runs him over. But not Gregson's fault and whatsoever because Kyle was a little out of shape. Some people said Gregson maybe should have lifted. Well, so was it like me and Corey at Daytona where I got out of shape, lifted and then he got in the back of me off turn four? Kind of, but Kyle slides up the track. You leave the guy in not much choice when you hit the brakes in front of him. Yeah, Kyle sliding up the track into a hole is going from the bottom to the top lane. Yeah, it's tough on the next car. So if you're Noah, if you do this giant lift and brake moment to give the guy the spot, then you're opening yourselves up for someone else doing to you. What do it do? It ended up doing a Kyle. So again, when you make these really tight squeezes in a hole and that, you know, and you lift to get in the hole, you're leaving the person that you cut off in a very tough position to where you're forcing them to lift and then open themselves up to getting wrecked. So most guys nowadays just don't let their say they say, if you want to go ahead and put your car in that hole, be ready for the freight train coming. Here's what Kyle said. I didn't get the best of exits off a turn two, but when I drifted out to the wall, I was trying to get back straight and Gregson never checked up. Just ran me as hard as he could to get me back going, to get my men on back going again. When a guy's a little out of shape, he got to give him a second to collect it before he just rammed him or at least try to check up and push gently. But yeah, that's kids these days. Yeah. So it sounds like what he acknowledges is that a he was out of shape. He acknowledges that B Gregson was trying to help him, but just didn't help him correctly is what he's what he's saying there. Again, it's very it's very hard to do. I mean, Gregson's more likely to get someone right on his ass too. So it's again, if you're the first guy that gets out of shape, you almost have to deal with whatever consequences come from that. I don't know where the incident Kyle Larson that was coming to the end of stage two. He miscalculated. There's a car there. Carlo. I saw him in a spotter saying, you know, a spotter said, I told you three wide and then Kyle said something like, I didn't know I was three wide. Well, he wasn't three wide. Yeah, because Kyle says I didn't know I was three wide and as far as like you weren't three wide. Because he cleared the middle car, but then there was a car way, way down low. Correct. Yeah. It's kind of just a. It's an interesting spot. I'm trying to figure out how to justify it here. I'm thinking really, really hard. I mean, certainly when the two cars are separated that far side by side, you know, so say you're side by side with someone, but there's 30 feet between you. That's when you're going on the highway, someone's in your blind spot. That's your blind spot. Like you can see cars that are directly beside you. You have your mirror. You have your camera that's on the back of the car, but that's only got a certain field of view. Okay. That it's looking out. So this is the back of the car. Okay. That camera is it's kind of like this. Well, that car is here. So it's too far away for him to, you know, you can't just turn your head sideways and see it. You do have a side mirror, but even that is more facing like this way. You know, Shane's here. This is the back of his car. So it is a blind spot sort of, but you also, you can feel it usually as you're coming down. Like you can hear it and you can feel it that a car is there. But more than like that would happen is he was going down the track so quickly that he had no time to see or hear it. But that's an aggressive move. Making a just top to absolute bottom move. I don't know. First of all, I don't know what he was gaining by it. We're coming to the checker. There was no one spot. Well, no, because he knew the car was there. He would say, I'm clear of the guy. I just I'm on the outside. Like, I'm going to insert. I don't know what the reason for the move was is my, that would be my question to him is that if you didn't see it, which appears he didn't see it, what were you gaining by going from the very top of the racetrack all the way to the bottom? Like, he wasn't to block someone, I don't think. Yeah, that that was going to be my question to you is what is the, what is the benefit of doing that? You're coming to the end of the bottle. You asked him. Okay. Let me text him. I have a group text. It's perfect for this. Is there a, is there a, are you going to, yeah, I'll text it. Is there a, is there a Larson Bros text group? Oh, let's find it here. I'm on this text that he's talking about. Yeah. What? Yeah. Right. That out. We can't have you. There it is. What are you going to ask worth work? Hey, Kyle. Denny wants to know whatever you want me to ask. That's fine. Go ahead. Um, what would say, what were you trying to gain from going to the top to the bottom? If you didn't see SVG, I'm saying, Hey, Kyle, Denny wants to know what you were trying to gain going from top. If you didn't see SVG, that's fine. Um, we'll see what the response is. Um, I don't know. I really don't have any other justification. I'm, I'm trying to gain here my best. I'm going to say Ricky's in here too. Should we ask if he waived to Riley on the backstretch as well when they were. Did he do, did he do the standard, um, I'm pissed. Just gas it. Like your nose to nose. Seems a little long. They were attached to each other a little. What happened in that wreck? I didn't see that wreck. Do you have a clip of it? I had I took it off and just irrelevant. I'll find it. What were you saying about about this Larsen wreck before I cut you off? Nothing. I just, it is a blind spot with your cameras. That's all that I'm telling you that spot that far away to the left. Your camera's not picking it up in your side mirror. It likely is not picking it up either. But again, I don't know what he had to gain by sweeping across three lanes in the middle of the corner. Okay. Not a great replay of this, this other incident. But I think Riley gets into Austin Dylan and then those two carriages sideways in the middle track. Ricky just had nowhere to go and ran into Riley. I think Ricky was, uh, fun meter respect because he had reached his wreck quota as well for the day. Yeah. Yeah. You were probably happy though to see him be done for the day, right? For pitting reasons. I'm never happy to see a buddy crash, but it was, we were in tough spot on pit road and obviously with qualifying rained out. The first pit stop was just an absolute mess because it was the classic at Charlotte Motor Speedway a few years ago. If you remember, I was like so, so fast. And every time I came on pit road, I'd lose nine spots because I had to go around busher. Someone had to go around him. Someone had to, it was busher, Neema check, Austin Dylan. And every person was right behind the other guy. So everyone came in late. So everyone just kept going more and more sideways in their pit box. I blocked Ross in. He was nice enough to wait for me to finish fueling my car. and getting tires. He just sat there in his pit box and he's like, I'm not gonna go in reverse 'cause by the time I go in reverse and go forward, you're actually gonna be leaving. So he just waited 'cause you went in reverse. I did because Ricky came in quite a bit later. So there was time to be gained there. Whenever the lead car is the last on pit road, so the guy that's run the highest is the furthest back on pit lane and then that's the next guy. And then this guy comes in late. It just causes mayhem. It's amazing we don't have at these bigger racetracks like standard pit box lengths, but everyone, every track is different. You know, if you got a place like Indy, of course it's such a long straightaway that those pit boxes are like double with a normal pit boxes, you'll never get blocked in. Phoenix, you're not gonna get blocked in there. Big, big pit stalls. But it's just a weird scenario there where without qualifying, you can't pick around people that you think you're going to outrun or they're gonna outrun you. How do you practice that? 'Cause you guys got this pit barn at 2,311, you guys are out there practicing, but unless the driver is consistently driving in for these guys like, and the pit boxes are different, like does that change the choreography of each and every? Absolutely. So how do you practice that? Do you put new lines down each week? I don't practice that. I don't know. It's one thing that I certainly don't feel very good at is getting in. I think I'm probably running too fast into my pit stall because I'm always kinda deep and left where I should just go slower, wrap around, then try to get my car pointed more correct. It's really hard to practice. And it's really tough for the pit crew 'cause their timing is, all right, I'm jumping off the wall when you reach X spot. And when you change your speed coming in, your pit stall that changes that. Interesting. Yeah. We're still waiting on a reply here. Okay, hopefully there's no Chevy meetings this morning. That would, I think this is more important. He can take it. But anyway, Pala Redic wins 2 in a row. 2,311, 1,2 in the standings, which is talked about, standings aren't super important right now, but it's certainly if you're at the top of them, you feel good about how you're, because everyone is thinking these first two races, oh, I gotta just get through these speedways and be in the okay shape, then we can get to our strong tracks. Now, the difference is, right, is that it's Redic that's leading, right? So while we're a hunter behind whatever we are, it's not like we're a hunter behind someone that's gonna run 25th every week, you know what I mean? So you're behind a car that's every year in the top six, seven in the regular season. So it'll be tougher for the field to make a comeback on Redic versus someone that would just happen to get into two super speedway wins. Does complacency ever, does that something that worries you? What's that? Like, 2,311, this great start of the season, like some complacency kicking in, does that something you worry about think about? They better not. Now, that's not how we do things nor what I expect. So you're racing against the best teams, the best drivers, you know, weeks off, no weeks off. Bad news for the field, Tyler Redic has never finished outside the top five at Coda in a 2311 car. In fact, he's never qualified outside the top five either. Yeah, turns out he's a good driver. You guys might have found a good driver, Danny. Yeah. Yeah, exciting from Michael Jordan. Back to back weeks, he's celebrating in Victory Lane. That's cool. I don't know how many races he has been coming to each year. It's more than people think. But it feels like a, he usually makes a third of the races. Like it wasn't at Indy, right? He wasn't at Indy. The Indy win. The other one is Indy win. No. During the summer, he's floating on water, I'll fish him with it. Okay. He's on his floating home. Yes. It's just nice you come in these first two races. Different country. Yeah. It's just nice you come to these first two races and you get the full experience. Yeah. I also appreciate that he's gives Fox these interviews. Like he doesn't just sit there and say, I'm not doing these. He's done four interviews with Fox in eight days. Like that's powerful for the sport. There was someone that we had a meeting with in Daytona that said Michael Jordan does nothing for the sport and he has a prominent figure in the sport. And I said, "Hmm. "Okay." That could be true. He also has a podcast. But anyway, moving on. Jesus Christ. That narrows it down. That could be further from the truth though. This morning, the amount of repost I've seen on these viral sports accounts, the complex accounts, the sports accounts that repost highlights of Michael celebrating on the French stretch with Tyler. I mean, that's huge for NASCAR, right? That puts NASCAR in front of so many people's eyes. Absolutely. Michael Jordan thinks NASCAR is cool. I mean, NASCAR is cool then. Well, you can see it through the outlets that are complex sneakers. They're posting things about the races. Like, they never post anything about the. The only thing they post is like maybe a 2311 collab. Shoo, where it's like a part of a pain scheme. But there's no question it is that he is reaching outlets far beyond our current media outlets. And when he does these interviews, he doesn't just give stock answers that you would see from other people. He gives the true emotional Michael owner fan thoughts. Yeah, he's speaking from the heart. He loves the sport. He said that over and over. I don't know how many times he can say it. But you can see from the reaction he's a fan first. Anything else you want to touch on from this race? No, no, figure we got it. Some other off track news, we at least have to acknowledge Chris Gabehart and JGR lawsuit. Yeah, certainly disappointing to read. What I wrote, my off season was very. It's taken up by a lot of things. So I was not aware of all the things that were kind of going on behind the scenes as far as that's concerned. I really can only speak from like a 2311 standpoint of why the information is so protected. And I think you saw Chris Gabehart's contract and you saw all the protections and stuff that the teams have to have is that no one person owns any information. You know, if it is a set up or what have you, I collaborated in that. I put my time in to help develop that. The engineers put time and developing that. The Arrow Department. There's so many departments that contribute to whatever that piece of paper says that car is running that weekend. No one person owns that or has the right to take it anywhere. That's someone else's work. And so that's why as race teams, we have to protect that because we race a spec car now. I mean, do you know how much faster we could possibly be if we had all of Hendrix information? There's an ours. Like, you just can't let that happen, which is why the teams are so very protective over their information. It's what separates us is what our employees come up with during those weeks. And I'm sure Joe Guzeracing has spent tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars over the last decades coming up with what they think is the right answer every weekend. And they deserve to protect that. And it's awfully disappointing to see two people that you've cared for, not at odds right now, but I can only listen to Joe Guzeracing as well as go to court. I think they're pretty serious. I'll say that is that Joe ain't looking to fight anyone. It's tough. You got a big fish and trip coming up this week I hear. I am going to go to Lake Fork. I hear that the biggest bass that you can find in the country are in Lake Fork, Texas. So I'm going to make a little stop there. Johnny Morris has hooked me up with one of the pros, Chris Zaldein. and we'll see you in the next video. We're gonna go out there on Friday and see if we can't catch a PB. - It's Charlie going? - Uh-huh. - Who do you think's gonna catch a bigger fish? - Me. - Like always do. - And just needed that for like bait, 'cause you know, Charlie will clip this if he catches a bigger one and use that in the Denny Bros. I have a proposal for you. - I heard he doesn't know how to back up a trailer. - I heard. - Yeah, you have any video of this? - I'm not really sure, but I know that him and Austin took the bow down and Charlie took a picture of himself sitting in the driver's seat, but Austin said he can't do it. He got stage fright and could not back up the trailer. - Oh no. - I know. Talk about losing your main card. - Did he ever have it? - Not really. So according to AI Lake Fork in Texas as a premier trophy, bass fishery famously holding the state record for the largest large mouth bass at 18.18. - 18? - The lake has produced seven of the top 10 and 36 of the top 50 largest bass in Texas history. - Wow. - See, I want to temper my expectations. I like to get under promise over delivered. My, listen, my personal goal, anything over four pounds, I'm gonna do cartwheels. - A 14, my PB is five five right off my dock. Don't you poachers come over here and start, they do. They love to go over there and just, I know. Five five right off the dock. A 14.35 pounder was caught last week. February, 2026. - I just could not imagine. Know what I would do. I thought about it. Is that I would fight that fish? I'd bring him in, I'd weigh him, I'd pull him and then I'd re-hook him and throw him back in the water and say, come on, fight me again. You know what I mean? (laughing) I just want to feel it. Just want to feel the fight. - Hundreds of seven pounder better bass are caught regularly. So like, if you don't, - I don't believe. - If you don't get a record, I don't believe it. - With a pro? Listen, this isn't Celine Dion's private pond that you're fishing. You gotta go out there and earn this. - It is a big lake. It's not like a, again, it's not a pond that they can't escape. - You gotta earn this one. - Travis, I'm excited. I want to see Danny catch a huge fish. I have it yet to see it. - Are you gonna be out there capturing this? - I think he's my ride to Coda, so. - I hope so. - But I know if you're gonna go if he had like some like granola trip planned while he's fishing. - Well, I was gonna make that proposal to him 'cause I hear the accommodations around Lake Fork aren't. - Oh, we got a-- - We got a real dumpy spot. It's awesome. - And you just, you wanna camp instead? - No, I don't wanna camp, but we're gonna stay in a, we're going back to our roots. - You have a mattress though. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone wanna have a mattress. Here's my problem though, Jared. Do you know that bass boats only carry a certain amount of people? - Yeah, I know. I think I know that. Right now we're together to have four, and that's, that is like-- - That's the maximum. - Someone is going to get a hook in the side of the head. It's bad AJ. - Yeah, yeah. - It's, no, it's a real where this guy gets hooked in the side of his neck, and he's like, "Oh my god, AJ, it's bad, it's bad." It's been on my feet for forever. I just, 'cause I never can stop watching it every time it comes across, and he's like, "Oh, I feel like you got a hook hit by a hammer." He's like, he's like, "It's not that, oh, it's bad, it's bad." - Let's get it like a jet ski for Jared to drive around and so on. - Yeah, that'll be good. - 'Cause eventually they say, "Eventually you'll get a hook to your body somewhere." - I don't want that. - I do not want that. - You imagine with the four of us, someone's getting it. So you got the pro, you got Austin, you and Charlie. - Yeah. - We got it, we're gonna be on all four corners. The fish are just gonna get, I know, bombed from every day. - Do we have any wagers between the UAP and-- - We will, we just don't know why yet. Maybe someone has to pay for the $65 a night to combinations. (laughing) It's all I got. What's the benefit to, this is maybe a stupid question, but why do you need a bass, but why don't you just take like a pontoon, pontoon, but what's the difference? - You need places to cast. So if you look at a bass boat, it's pretty flat on top and it's not got anything on the sides. Well, you just, you need room to cat like, if you have a pontoon, you've got a cover on the top. - Well, there's rails, if you got a lean over, get the fish out of the water. - Yeah, how are you gonna lean down there and get it? - The boat needs, if you're on like a big lake in a tournament, you gotta get out fast. - Like. - Plus there's technology on the bass boats that show you the bottom. They'll have live sooner on the front. You can actually see the fish. - Well, to put the fish in. - Some people are using that sheeding. - I've got to ask this question by saying it was a dumb question. I just don't know, a boat's a boat in my opinion. Does it float on water or not? - Wow. - For fishing, you just, I don't know. - Okay. Well, that's our week. You all got anything else? - I got nothing. - We'll ride at an hour. That's our quota. The people would have, they've had enough. - You got a review. - And just gotta note that practice in qualifying this weekend is 10 a.m. on prime, 10 a.m. local time on prime. So if you're on these coasts, it's 11 o'clock. And then race Sunday, 3.30 p.m. Eastern on Fox. And then we got a review here from no name, but it comes out of Harris, Georgia. Action set, Remails of Fun. Candid listen, Denny and Jared bring sharp takes, even though I'm not a fan of Denny's driving. Still, when the green flag drops, it's all about the nine. Go chase. Go chase. Did you, right before we wrap up, just check your texts again. Make sure we didn't get a response. I've got nothing, but, all right. We'll just assume that he was thinking what I said. (laughing) All right, we'll see you all next week. See you. 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