AskCVV #19 - The Rock Turns Heel, Cody vs. Roman, Scott D'Amore Fired From TNA, WrestleMania XL Kickoff
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The transcript explores multiple themes, beginning with a strong emphasis on the legal and social consequences of driving high, underscoring that impairment is detectable even without official law enforcement involvement. This sets a tone of personal accountability and societal awareness. The central narrative focuses on the evolving storylines of WWE’s WrestleMania XL, where the Rock’s sudden heel turn and Cody Rhodes’ rise create a pivotal shift in the main event narrative. The host highlights how patience and narrative pacing are essential in professional wrestling, with the storyline unfolding through a series of strategic events, social media buzz, and promotional moments like the Rock’s appearance on the Pat McAfee show. The episode also celebrates the impact of surprise returns in wrestling history, such as CM Punk and Edge, arguing that these moments deepen fan engagement and create emotional resonance. Additional topics include the growing role of social media in shaping wrestling narratives, the surprising dismissal of Scott DeMoore from TNA, and the personal journey of the host, Chris Fanfleet, who reflects on his career and passion for wrestling interviews. The host also shares insights into his podcast’s growth, future ambitions, and gratitude toward fans, emphasizing consistency, community, and personal fulfillment. A lighter segment features a discussion on travel, favorite mustaches, and the future of wrestling, ending with a call to action and a positive outlook on the future of wrestling and content creation. The overall message is one of resilience, patience, and community—central to both wrestling storytelling and the personal success of a fan-driven podcast.
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Oh my goodness, welcome back to another one.
Here on Insight, I'm CBV, Chris Fanfleet.
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Welcome to Ask CBV number 19.
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But wow, a lot has happened.
In the last seven days, it started with SmackDown last Friday,
culminating with the WrestleMania XL kickoff last night.
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So, let's dive into these questions here.
I had maybe a half a dozen, ten questions about the WrestleMania XL kickoff,
everything that's happening around WrestleMania and the main event.
So we will dive right into that.
What did you think of the WrestleMania XL kickoff?
What do you think the main event of WrestleMania will be?
So for the better part of the last two years, we've been hearing finish the story.
The key word there, being story.
And man, what a week of storytelling this has been.
If you've listened to my podcast for any length of time,
you know one of the biggest things that I talk about when it comes to professional wrestling.
When it comes to professional wrestling, storylines is patience.
And it is something that all of us as wrestling fans lack, myself included.
We all want to jump to conclusions.
When we see something unfold on a Monday or a Wednesday or a Friday or a Saturday night
or whatever it happens to be, we all want to go, what does this mean?
What does this mean?
And so often.
All we need to do is just wait till the next Raw.
Wait till the next Smackdown.
Wait till the next press event like we saw at the WrestleMania XL kickoff to get some answers.
And that's exactly what we saw.
Let's recap here real quick.
Last Friday Cody comes out, he's cutting this promo with Roman Reigns.
The rocks music hits.
I think people are very quick to forget that when the rocks music hit just seven days ago on Smackdown,
the ovation was massive.
He was getting cheered by everyone in the building.
And then he came out.
There was that exchange with Cody very, it was weird.
It was like, it should have been a handshake.
It ended up being more of like the bro handshake, like the arm wrestling, like predator handshake there,
which I thought was, I don't know, a strange moment because usually in wrestling, it's the handshake.
And then possibly pulled into the hug.
And then we had the rock and Roman Reigns left in the ring.
It is important to point out that the rock has never called out Roman Reigns up until this point,
up until the point of Smackdown last week.
But we see the stare down there.
I mean, it seems inevitable, right?
It seems like it's, that's what this is leading to.
But still, the rock has mentioned head of the table.
Now we've got the stare down here, but the rock at no point up to this point has called out Roman Reigns.
Everybody online starts going ballistic, which in turn makes Cody an even bigger baby face than he already was.
And I think that this was all done intentionally.
Again, storytelling.
We want Cody becomes one of the top trends in the world day after day.
Everybody's talking about it going into the weekend.
I can't believe the rock would come in and do this to Cody.
This is unbelievable.
And then there were some people, myself included, who said,
"What if this was all done just to make Cody an even bigger baby face, an even bigger underdog,
and to make the rock a heel?"
What if this was the plan all along?
And then we see what happens on Monday.
Cody basically saying, "Oh yeah, it's going to be. "
It's not, I don't want this match happening at WrestleMania.
And then the "We Want Cody Stuff" continues.
Fast forward to the rock, making appearance on the Pat McAfee show.
Essentially turning heel.
With the hashtag, the Cody Cry Babies, they basically cut a promo on all the Cody fans
that had been whining and complaining about this, classic rock.
Like this was a throwback to Hollywood Rock from 2003.
And then we had the WrestleMania XL kickoff.
And the way that that all unfolded, I feel like this was the story they were looking for all along.
I've seen people call this a pivot.
I think this was a pivot.
I think that this is what the plan was all along.
And ever since Triple H has been in charge of the storyline, he really hasn't let us down.
And it's funny that just seven days ago, people were like, "They're out of touch.
This is a complete oversight. They don't know what they're doing."
And I just kept saying, "Have a little bit of patience."
When does Triple H let us down in terms of booking in the last year or so?
In fact, he's been cooking on not intended there.
He's been cooking. He's been making some great storylines.
He did it in NXT. He's done it on the main roster.
Triple H has not let us down.
And I feel like this has been the vision the whole time here.
And the funny thing is, as we sit here right now, the first week of February,
we still don't really know what the main event of WrestleMania is going to be.
Up until 24 hours ago, we thought it was, well, first of all, Cody wins the rumble.
We'll take a back a step here. Cody wins the rumble.
It seems obvious. It's going to be Cody and Roman again.
That all seems to make sense. The rock comes in, throws a wrench in the plans.
We think for six days. Oh my gosh.
Now it's the rock versus Roman Reigns. What happens now?
As it stands at this exact second after the WrestleMania XL kickoff,
Cody, who's the winner of the Royal Rumble, he gets to decide.
So Cody says, hey, it's going to be me and you, Roman.
And then everything unfolded. What did the five fingers say to this face?
Slap? What a moment.
Then the rock interrupting Triple H's promo backstage.
Drop it all kinds of cuss words that some of them got bleaped out.
But a lot of them didn't. It was all brilliant.
The rock has basically turned heel. I mean, it's essentially turned heel.
And some of his best work has been as a heel.
I also want to point out, this is a press conference.
This is the press event watched by across all platforms.
Because it was streaming on YouTube and Peacock and TikTok across all platforms.
Millions of people are watching a press event.
Like I think that if you were to combine all of the viewers of this,
probably more people watch this than an episode of raw or an episode of Smackdown.
And there wasn't one second of wrestling during that show.
It's been just fascinating.
Seeing how I think a lot of strings are being pulled behind the scenes here.
For all the booze that the rock was getting over the last week,
the rock was the number one merch seller on WWE shop.
That's something that not a lot of people were talking about.
I think the WWE was pulling some strings at raw when reports came out
that they were passing out the We Want Cody science.
Here's what's so interesting about the whole thing.
Again, patience. Cody tweeted on Monday.
Trust me. It's what he said. He said trust me.
He appreciated the outpouring of support. He appreciated the passion.
But he said
Trust me. Did people trust him? This was on Monday. Now they weren't patient.
They didn't take the time to see how this would all unfold. And I feel like we're starting to see
how this is going to shape up now. But this is the thing. It's it's February right now.
There's still another pay-per-view event PLE in elimination chamber that's coming up between
now and WrestleMania. We don't need to know what the main event of WrestleMania is 55 days out
from the main event. I think that that's actually a great thing that like they're keeping us on our
toes. I love it. They're keeping us on our toes and we don't know what's going to happen here.
I think we've got like four scenarios really, right? We've got Roman versus Cody.
We've got the rock versus Roman. We've got a three-way match between those three people,
the rock, Roman and Cody. And I think that there's this outside shot here at a four-way match.
I can't see this actually coming to fruition, but I'll just put it out there that I think there's
an outside, very small chance of rock versus Roman versus Cody versus Seth. All four of them
are on stage as this was all kind of unfolding. There's definitely a story there. That's not what I
think. I do think the rock's going to wrestle at WrestleMania 40. I don't know how this is going to
all shape out, shake out. That's what I love about it. I really do think that there's a possibility
as well that you could see Roman main event both nights. Maybe he main events the first night
against the rock. And then Cody gets the winner of that the next night, which I would assume is
going to be Roman Reigns. It's also interesting. It's all so fascinating. I also want to touch
on the fact that at the start of the kickoff show, they showed this highlight package about basically
what does WrestleMania mean? What is 40 years of WrestleMania been all about? Did you guys notice
that they did not shy away? WWE did not shy away from showing Daniel Bryan and they did not shy away
from showing edge. They showed the spear off the ladder to Jeff Hardy. So they're showing several
AEW people. That was never the case for a long time. And I think you might say, well, how could you
talk about the history of WrestleMania without talking about Daniel Bryan and Yesel Mania? One of
the biggest high spots in the history of pro wrestling being the spear off the ladder. Yeah,
I get it. But WWE for the longest time has just been going, oh, you don't work here anymore,
like basically you're excommunicated. Like you exist in the history books, but we're not going
to be like advertising the things that you did here. I thought that was a really interesting move.
And I think that that I'm just guessing here, that feels to me like a triple H move of going,
that's part of the history. Those are some of the biggest moments. Let's talk about them. But
as it stands right now, again, it's not even the middle of February yet. This is exciting.
And what an exciting time to be a wrestling fan of all wrestling. WWE, AEW, New Japan, TNA,
you name it, all of it. A rising tide lifts all ships and baby, that tide is lifting. So
I'm so excited to see what happens at WrestleMania 40. Obviously, we had huge news with AEW and
big business, which I think if you read between the lines, it sure sounds like the Mercedes is going
to show up in Boston. I mean, I don't think you name an event after someone. They're not going
to be there. So man, there's a lot of exciting stuff going on right now. And if you're going to be
at WrestleMania 40 and Philly, I will see you there. And we are doing our best to try to book
a massive guest for a live show the Friday of WrestleMania. We can be Friday at like 4 p.m.,
location, guest, all of that is still to be determined. So I'll keep you posted on that.
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Slash.cvv James Mitchell here on Facebook who says, "I want to know if you think the rumors
and surprise leaks are helping or hurting wrestling today. Personally, I much prefer being
surprised by returns. I remember the surprise return of Stone Cold and the undertaker among many
others. I know it's the way things are right now, but could you imagine how big the pop
for Randy Orton would have been if he wasn't expected back at Survivor Series?" I couldn't agree
more with you. I actually think that the way that it was treated at Survivor Series was really
interesting because a lot of times these returns are spoiled by just reports online. This one was
spoiled. If we're speaking specifically about Randy Orton, that one was spoiled by WWE. Like,
Randy Orton could have been a massive surprise and I've been talking about this since I went to
Survivor Series in Chicago in November. It was just weird for them on Raw to be like, "Oh yeah,
some are extra, our final person in the match. He's somewhat of a snake and his name rhymes with
Schmandy Schmorton." I would have to guess that they did that because otherwise there would have been,
this is before CM Punk return, there would have been CM Punk chance throughout the entire match,
if not throughout the entire night. And there were a lot of CM Punk chance. I was there. I heard
them. It was also funny that a lot of those CM Punk chance were met immediately with booze,
because a lot of people didn't think that it was even possible that CM Punk could come back.
But the greatest thing in pro wrestling is that element of surprise. And if you think back
to some of the best surprises, I mean, there's a ton of them, but if you think back to some of the
best surprises, they're the ones where we had no idea this would be even possible. CM Punk
returning at Survivor Series is a huge one. Edge returning at the Royal Rumble, another huge one.
The WrestleMania 30 intro with Hogan, then Stone Cold, then the Rock, and it wasn't even rumored
that Stone Cold and the Rock would be there. Those are the moments that we lived for. And I also
love that as a wrestling fan, you can show those moments to someone who's not a wrestling fan,
and it just transcends wrestling. I love that. That's one of the things I love the most about wrestling,
is you don't even have to explain to someone who CM Punk is why he was away from the business,
why he was away from WWE. You just hit play on that video. And the crowd reaction,
the shots of the people in the crowd, that tells the whole story. And that's what I love. And I
think that there's been a lot of amazing surprises over the last call it decade or two. I mean,
John Cena, 2008 Royal Rumble, there's another great one. CM Punk's just returned to wrestling
in AEW. I've talked at length about how I think that that return was so important to set the
table for the return that happened at Survivor Series in WWE. Like, that's another big one. Adam
Copeland going to AEW, although that was heavily rumored. I think there were still a lot of people
that were like, I don't actually think he's gonna go there. Boom. Not only is he there, he's there
with his WWE music. So yes, I think that surprises when they can keep them underlocking key,
Cody Rhodes, when he made his WWE return at WrestleMania 38. Those are the moments that I think
we as fans live for. So the more of those that we can have, I think the better.
Got asked this by a few people. Dustin, Weta-kind and Ryan Berthium? My goodness, I'm sorry, man.
My last name gets butchered all the time. Van Vlieh, Van Violet. It is Van Vlieh, so I'm sorry.
Dustin and Ryan asked this on Facebook. What are your thoughts on Scott Demore being let go by
Anthem and TNA after all of his work to rebuild the brand? I was as shocked as anybody. I felt
like that one came out of nowhere and to be less than a month after the TNA rebrand at Hard to Kill.
I was also there in Las Vegas. It feels like it's coming out of nowhere and it's not like there were
to my knowledge reports out in the last
month or two or three, that this was even possible, that this was even rumored, that people
were even talking about Scott De Moore being fired.
That's also really interesting here, that the terminology was fired.
It wasn't, it came to terms with his release.
It wasn't that he decided to resign fired.
So I would have to think that over the next handful of weeks, we'll start to learn a little
bit more about the full story here, but shocked.
And it was so interesting seeing the outpour of love from everybody in TNA, I mean, all
the way down.
I mean, just go to, go to the Instagram's for Instagram profiles for Eric Young or Moose
or Josh Alexander, like all the way down the line there, Santino as well.
And everybody, all kinds of love and respect for Scott, the person, like friend and also
Scott for what he did for TNA.
And I think that we can all agree, TNA wrestling is what it is right now because of the work
that Scott De Moore has done over the last many years to revive the brand and to have
some of the best in-ring wrestling in the world right now.
And I get it, you may be a lapsed TNA fan.
You may have not watched since, I don't know, the Hogan and Bischoff days.
You might not have watched since AJ Styles was there or since Kurt Angle was there.
Tune into just a few matches.
Watch hard to kill, pick literally any match on the hard to kill card and you will be so
impressed by how great the wrestling is.
So I think that this story is far from over and I'll be very curious to see what happens.
Alex Martinez 80 on Instagram says, "Hey Chris, what's been the most challenging part
of hosting your own podcast?"
I think the most challenging part of hosting any podcast is the consistency.
So you guys know I do two, sometimes three episodes a week when I do an Ask CBV episode
like this one, so interview Tuesday, interview Thursday, every other Friday asks CBV except
for right now.
We've done back-to-back Ask CBVs and I feel like if things keep going the way that they're
going right now, we might have to do these every Friday.
How did you guys feel about that?
This is Ask the CBV audience now.
If we did Ask CBV episodes and we talked about current storylines and current news with
a little bit of content creation and maybe some movie talk and I don't know Pete's
a talk thrown in, how would you guys feel about that?
So the biggest challenge I think is being consistent and I think a lot of people who have
ever started a podcast or who are early on in the process of podcasting totally understand
that.
Because when you say to your audience, I'm going to put out an episode every single Thursday.
You now are making that commitment that I'm going to do 52 of these in a year, which
when you're looking at it week to week, it doesn't seem like a lot of get seven days
to put this together, record it, put it out there.
But then life happens, stuff happens and when you're not making any money and all you're
doing is spending money and spending a ton of time, it starts to really get difficult.
So that's been the most challenging thing is we do about 120-ish episodes a year and
I think one of the most challenging things is constantly finding great guests to have
great conversations with great, you know, like great uplifting conversations and things
that I can selfishly learn from myself, like by asking some of these questions.
And I think the thing is, it's just difficult like to keep that going and I love it though.
And I love that you guys always show up and that's what makes me always show up too.
So, if you have any ideas for guests, I would love to hear them, shoot me a message, shoot
me a tweet and let me know, but we've got some big ones.
On top of the invisible man, we've got some big ones lined up, I shall give you a handful
here.
I've already recorded a bunch.
So I will let you know who we've recorded interviews with.
We've recorded interviews with Johnny Gargano, top dollar, he's now known as AJ Francis
his real name, Bobby Roode, he will see an interview with Damien Sandal very soon.
O'Shea Jackson Jr., yes, the actor, ice cube son, yeah, from straight out of Compton.
O'Shea Jackson Jr., if you don't follow him on Twitter, he is a massive wrestling fan
and maybe an even bigger Roman Reigns fan.
We recorded that interview last week.
You won't want to miss that.
That is such a good one that's going to be coming up soon.
Disco Inferno, we recorded that not long ago and I think we see a totally different
side of Disco Inferno here and I get that there's a lot of people that feel certain ways
about Disco Inferno but listen to that episode with an open mind because I think you're really
going to enjoy that.
So these are some of the episodes that are coming up.
If you're not following the show, I hope it gave you a little incentive there to click
follow so you don't miss out on any of the episodes that we have coming up.
Jordi Nolan on Facebook says, what made you want to interview professional wrestlers specifically?
Was it just the passion that you had as a fan or is there more to it?
I've been so fortunate in my career and I'm so grateful to be able to even say this
that I've interviewed some of the biggest stars on the planet and long story short, I've
worked as an entertainment reporter, I've worked as a TV host for most of my career and
it started out, you're interviewing musicians and actors and comedians and directors and
then every once in a while, WWE or TNA would come to town and that was really where it
began.
I remember saying to my boss, 2007 when I did that very first interview with Bobby Lashley,
I was working for a show called 969 which aired on Razor which became MTV to Canada and
it also aired on City TV for all my Canadians out there, WWE was coming to town and I just
said to my boss, could we do an interview with a wrestler and she's like, yeah, of course,
we've done that before and I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm going to get to talk to a wrestler
and get paid, like I'm going to get paid to interview a wrestler.
And that was the interview with Bobby Lashley, he was the ECW champion at the time, Smackdown
with ECW was touring in Vancouver, British Columbia where I was living and working at the time.
So he really began as I would interview a bunch of actors, a bunch of musicians, a bunch
of comedians and then wrestling would come to town, you do an interview with a wrestler
once or twice or three or four times a year and it was just whenever they weren't town
that happened to be it.
I moved to Toronto after the Vancouver job, continued to do that, interviewed wrestlers, got
a job in Cleveland at WOIO, the CBS affiliate in Cleveland and I continued the same thing there.
My news director was like, absolutely, let's bring in these larger than life personalities.
And if you go to my YouTube channel, you can check those out.
There's interviews on there with Bully Ray and Jeff Hardy and Jeff Jared.
This is where I did a bunch of interviews with the Miz and Dolph Ziggler because they're
also Cleveland guys and I was living in Cleveland.
That's where my YouTube channel really started.
And if you go back to the early days of my YouTube channel, it started in, actually, it
started.
Yeah, yes.
Today, wow, today was the anniversary of my YouTube channel.
I started in 2011.
This is my main YouTube channel, the one that's called Chris Fanfleet.
If you go way back there, yeah, you'll see those interviews with the wrestlers that
I talked about, but you'll also see interviews with people like Jennifer Lawrence and Ben
Affleck and Steven Spielberg and like the list goes on and on, like Jack Black and Kevin
Hart, like tons of these huge celebrities.
So it wasn't that I was deciding to interview wrestlers specifically.
It's just they kind of fell under the umbrella of wrestling of entertainment and I'm a big
wrestling fan.
So I selfishly just wanted to ask them questions that I always want to know the answer to.
But in like 2018, I started to go, well, if I could go out of my way and like bring, bring
my camera to a local independent show and they've got a big name there.
Like you'll see an interview with Christopher Daniels from an independent show.
You'll see an interview with Rhino from an independent show.
And that's when I was just like, I've got an audience and yes, there's lots of celebrity
interviews on my YouTube channel, but also I know that wrestling fans are really excited
about these conversations and the fact that I have access to do these interviews.
Because if you think back six, seven, eight years ago, there weren't a ton of people doing
wrestling interviews.
It was like me, my good friend Sam Roberts, Peter Rosenberg, like they, they were like
the main people that were doing wrestling interviews.
So like we had the ability to like be at the crossroads here of entertainment and also
being a wrestling fan and then we had the access through the media to do it.
That's when my channel really started to grow when I was going out of my way to do these
interviews.
2019, AEW was announced and I was able to do interviews like I did the first interview
with Chris Jericho right after he signed with AEW.
That was the first interview that he ever did talking about why he decided to sign with
AEW.
That's the interview in the backseat of the car.
I did an interview with Tony Khan, Cody Rhodes, the young box like there were so many AEW
interviews at that time and people were just like clamoring for something different.
If you think back five years ago, people were just like so hungry for something new and
AEW was announced in January and their first show wasn't until May, double or nothing.
So anything that had any, like any sort of leak
to AW was just going bonkers with numbers like I was in LA. I reached out to jungle boy. We did an
interview together. I was doing whatever I could. It just like tried to like, I don't know, that
people know who these wrestlers were because I think that they were up to that point. Unless you
were a huge indie fan, they were just names like they were just a name on a piece of paper. You
didn't like really know who they were as a person. So I was hoping to do as many interviews as I
could. So still was doing celebrity interviews and still to this day, I'm doing celebrity interviews.
Like in the last year, man, I've been so fortunate to interview people like Arnold Schwarzenegger,
Christian Bale, Julia Roberts, Mahershal Ali, Denzel Washington, Ethan Hawke. Like just in the
last year, it's been amazing. I've been so so fortunate. Chris Hemsworth, so many these great
interviews. So while I still do a ton of wrestling interviews, and if you've been listening to the
show for a long time, you know that we used to have everybody on the show. And now it's been just
wrestlers for about the last year. And as a result, the show has never been bigger. Well, and that's
also because you guys keep showing up. So thank you for that. So the answer to your question is,
was it just a passion that you had as a fan? Yes. That's like what got me in the door. It was the
passion to like make these interviews happen 12 and 13 and 14 plus years ago. And yes, also,
there is more to it. And it's like, I'm so lucky. I'm so lucky to be able to get to do what I do.
And I'm even lucky that you listen to this. So thank you, Jordy, for the question.
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frother. That's mudwater.com/cvv. Ben Burnside on Facebook says, "Why didn't you become a pro wrestler?"
So I was a backyard wrestler. There are clips out there of my alter ego,
Chris Sharpe. Sharpe walking. Sharpe talking. Sharpe dressing. I don't I say that now,
but I was actually never, it's not even a promo I ever cut. I don't know why that's always
my go-to line when I talk about Chris Sharpe. I never once said that at the backyard wrestler.
But Chris Sharpe was heavily influenced by triple age kind of mixed with the rock, but like
very much a heel. But I was so influenced by triple age that I would tape my left wrist,
and then I would tape my right wrist and right hand like triple H used to.
It was a backyard wrestler. The swan-ton bomb was my finishing move. There are videos of this
out there. If you search for just a few seconds, I'm sure you'll find them. Then I did a 10 wrestling
school in Toronto. I went to the squared circle in Toronto. Actually, while I was at the squared
circle in Toronto, I was 21. I went there. Angelina love was there. She had already trained. She was
like in the like the expert ring. If you I was in the beginner ring, she was in the advanced ring
with some of the other local independent wrestlers from the Toronto area. But yeah, I trained. I trained
for several months. This was in the summer between my junior year and no sophomore year and junior
year. I always like mix up those terms because in Canada, you just say first year of university,
second year of university. And now that I've been living in the US for 14 years, I'm like, first of
all, it's not called university. Everything is college in the States. That was a big adjustment for
me. And then it's not first year, second year. It's freshmen, sophomore, junior, and seniors. So I
always make that adjustment. But I trained for about two months. And if you've heard this story,
get through relatively quickly here, I was at the crossroads. I was going to a wrestling school
was Tuesday and Thursday nights, all day Saturday, all day Sunday. And wrestling school was about
35-ish 40 minutes from my hometown. So I was driving from Pickering to the wrestling school in
Toronto. And then it was time to go back to school that fall. And wrestling school is now going to
be an hour 10, hour 20, depending on traffic to go from where my school was. Well, for lawyer
university to where a wrestling school was Toronto. So from Waterloo to Toronto would be an hour,
10, 20, 30 something like that, an hour half. And I just was at this crossroads where I was like,
what's the most important thing to me? Because I am such a believer in the phrase,
the man who chases two chickens catches none. And I didn't want to just put half of myself into
wrestling school, then half of myself into school school. I wanted to be able to put my all of my
effort into one thing or the other. And with two years left of school school, two years
off of my communication studies degree, my bachelor of arts degree, I was like, I want to get my degree.
And I think wrestling will always be there. And it has. Wrestling has always been there. And I'm
so grateful for the rock set at best in an interview we did years ago. Sometimes the best things in
life are the things that don't happen. If I had followed that path of being a pro wrestler, I don't
think that my life would, well, I know my life wouldn't be what it is right now because so many
other things would have happened. But I'm just grateful for the things that don't happen. Unanswered
prayers, if you will, Garth Brooks. And I just knew that wrestling would always be there in some
form or fashion. And I could dip my toe into it as a ring announcer, which I've done many times,
or as an interviewer backstage interviewer as well. And I'm just, I'm really happy with how it turned
out. And also, I'm 40 now. I just turned 40 in May. When I get out of bed in the morning,
like nothing hurts. And I have a lot of friends who are 40 or younger that have been wrestling
for their entire career. And they can't say the same. So, yeah, I don't look back on that with
any sort of regret. I just look back at it and it's like, I did the thing. I tried the thing.
I was picking it up pretty quickly, too. Like I was learning how to bump like, I think first
bump, I was like, oh, yeah, I think I figured it out. And they were like, yeah, that looks pretty good.
Picked up running the ropes pretty quickly. Like I was picking it up all very quickly. But
I think one other thing I got to add in here is 2003. The independent wrestling scene wasn't really
at all what it is now. So I feel like I would have, especially in Canada, struggled 2003, four,
five, six, seven, would have really struggled to like find my footing and make my character and
like build up a name for myself because it just wasn't like a lot of that going on. But
that is the story of Chris Sharp, the HCW Backyard Wrestling Champion. And Chris Fanfleet,
who attended wrestling school briefly did not finish wrestling school, but still loves wrestling.
Tom underscore the time machine on Instagram. I'm just taking a little sip here of F3 energy.
Or keep in the energy high. We started the show off. Woo, that energy real high. Tom underscore
the time machine on Instagram says, any chance you could interview Michael Cole. I would love to
interview Michael Cole. And I loved that he's getting his flowers now. 25 plus years into his
career. He's finally getting his flowers. And I just think that for so long, and it's no fault
of his own. For so long, he was just compared to JR. And I think that that's a difficult
position to be put in where JR was the voice of our childhood. And for Michael Cole to come along
and to be the other voice. And then because it was Michael Cole on one show and JR on the other show,
for Michael Cole to come in and be the other voice. And then when JR left to be like the replacement
for JR, it's tough, right? Because people love JR. He's a freaking legend, right? It's difficult
because Michael Cole has his own style. The thing I love about Michael Cole and I've said this
so many times, I love how real he makes it feel. Like I love how he treats WWE like it's the NFL
or the NBA or Major League Baseball or the NHL. Like I love that he talks about it like it's a real
sport. And I just, that's something I've always appreciated about him. And now that we're putting
the camera on him as he's shouting these calls during these big moments, I love it. And I think
that you got to give a lot of kudos to Pat McAfee for bringing this out of him. Because I think that
Cole was very much doing his thing and was very much the goat. And people weren't really realizing it.
And Pat McAfee brought just a little bit more out of him. Like if he was, if Michael Cole was
a 10 out of 10, he's now like an 11 out of 10. Pat McAfee's just like brought that extra
little bit of edge out of him.
He's clearly having fun again, and I love that.
So yes, I would love to have an interview with Michael Cole.
An hour would certainly not be enough time.
I've met Michael Cole very briefly backstage.
It was in Miami.
I was backstage at a rob.
I was doing an interview with Dolph Ziggler.
Very, very briefly met him.
He was very nice, but I would look forward
to having that opportunity to talk to him.
And I hope that it happens at some point in time.
I hope it does.
Most wanted wrestling on Instagram says,
what was it like being a guest on Mandy Rose
and Tino Sabotelli's podcast?
Yeah, I posted this earlier this week on Instagram.
I was a guest on Mandy Rose and Sabi Piscatelli's
his real name, but Mandy and Sabi's podcast
called Power Alphas.
And it's relatively new.
I think it's been around for a handful of months now.
They've already had some huge guests.
I mean, those two on their own
with the careers that they had Sabi
both in the NFL and the WWE and then Mandy Rose
with the career that she had in WWE.
They're big names on their own.
I don't know how I was invited to be a guest on their show.
But Sabi sent me a message and he's like,
"Hey, any chance you'd want to be a guest on our show?"
And I'm like, "Oh, did you send this to the right person?"
But yes, of course.
I'd love to be a guest.
So that one will be coming out.
I think it's Monday, they said.
Monday or Tuesday of next week.
I'm the next guest on their show.
We talked about a ton of stuff.
The way that they're,
they have this just an amazing mindset
when it comes to just life.
And we talked a lot about mindset and positivity
and just a lot of really good stuff.
A lot of stuff I really haven't opened up about before.
And we also talked about content creation
because they were like, "Hey, look,
you've been doing this for 500 and something episodes.
We're 15 or so in like what kind of advice can you give to us?"
So it's a great conversation.
Go check out the Power Alphas podcast.
Go subscribe to it right now.
Go follow it right now.
Subscribe to it on YouTube.
Follow it wherever you listen to this podcast
so you can check out that interview.
And I think there's a little teaser here.
We don't have it planned like as of right now,
but I would love to have both of them back on the show.
I've interviewed both Sabi and Mandy Rose before.
Mandy's been on the show twice,
but maybe I have them on together.
That'd be fun.
They live in South Florida, so maybe next time in South Florida,
we have them on together.
We have them on separately?
I don't know.
I think it'd just be great to have them back on.
Michael Kellogg on Facebook says,
"Greatest mustache in wrestling history."
Well, there's a lot.
Let's just off the top of my head here.
Hulkogan, Rick Rude, Mean Jean.
MagnumTA.
I'll give you a sneaky one here.
I think people forget that Jake the Snake Roberts
has a mustache.
Like it's just his mustache isn't like as big in his bowl
to say Rick Rude's, but yeah, Jake the Snake.
I mean, Jake the Snake without a mustache.
It'd just be strange, but Rick Rude's just that dark mustache.
I think that's one that really stands out for me.
And Hulkogan, of course, without the mustache that he has,
there's a totally different look.
Actually, I asked him during our interview.
I'm like, when was the last time you shaved your mustache?
And he told me a great story about that.
So there's five great wrestling moustaches for you.
Let me sip a little bit more of this F3 energy.
There we go.
Jesus CR1915 on Instagram says,
"How do you control your feelings and emotions
as a wrestling fan?"
Well, I don't know if I do.
I think that I've gotten better at it over the years,
but I remember like in high school
and the heart of the attitude era,
I remember like being like pent up with like so much like anger
about like the story lines that had happened the night before.
Like wanting to get to school in that Tuesday morning
and like talk to my friends Mark or Will
who were massive wrestling fans.
Just like, spit you all this out to them.
And it's funny because we look at the attitude era
specifically with like these rose colored glasses.
And it's like not all of it was great.
And I think that that should be talked about more often.
Of course, there was amazing stuff going on at the time.
Rock and Austin and the Mr. McMahon character
and McFoley and Triple H and Kane, all of it, right?
Like it was amazing.
But there were also some beaver cleavage
and naked midi in like there was some,
there were some things that were going on during that time
that were like very questionable.
So I wasn't great at controlling my emotions then.
I think I've gotten a lot better at just controlling
my emotions in general now.
And also just realizing like this is a television show
that is produced for our entertainment.
And I think it goes back to the very first question
and the whole thing we talked about at the start of this episode
is patience.
I think I have, I have a lot more patience now
than I had before.
I think I'm much more capable of playing the long game
to quote the rock in this week
and everything he's been talking about.
I think I've been much more patient to go,
oh, that thing happened on raw.
That's kind of questionable.
I wonder where they're going to go with that.
And being able to wait a week or two or three
or seeing something undynamic going,
ooh, how is that going to lead up to this pay-per-view?
Oh, okay.
All right, now I see how that's unfolding.
The other really interesting thing about
the time that we're living in right now
is it doesn't just need to happen on raw,
on dynamite, on rampage, on SmackDown,
on NXT, for it to matter.
And we saw that last night with the kickoff show.
Like there's all these other things that happen
like they're tying in social media here.
They're tying in like the rock being on Pat McAfee show
and cutting essentially a promo during that interview.
That stuff all ties in now,
which it didn't for so long.
So it really just comes down to one word.
How do you control your feelings and emotions
as a wrestling fan?
Patience.
I've just gotten better at going,
there's something more to that.
Then I get that it was hard.
For a long time, with Vince McMahon in control,
I get that it was hard to have patients
because we saw so many storylines that just made no sense.
I have a lot of faith in what Triple H is doing.
If we're speaking specifically about WWE.
I have a lot of faith that it's going to work out
because it has worked out.
He has a great track record.
So patience.
(laughs)
P true, true, true Leo?
True, true, true, hello.
P true, hello underscore 9/16 on Instagram.
What is your greatest accomplishment?
Well, that one's easy.
That little girl, our daughter, Logan.
That is my greatest accomplishment.
There is nothing I will possibly do in my life
that is better than being a father.
And that's it.
That's simple.
That period, that is the end of the answer.
Professionally, I think my greatest accomplishment
is just that you're listening right now.
And you're still listening.
We are 565 episodes into the podcast.
The YouTube channel has now been around
for 13 years today.
I started my career as a broadcaster 19 years ago this year.
The fact that we're still doing this
and at least one person you is listening.
That's the greatest accomplishment
that I get to do this every day.
And you've heard me say this so many times before.
But my definition of success is being excited
for what I'm going to do at the start of the day
and then being proud of what I've done at the end of the day.
And then wake up tomorrow, do it all over again.
That's it.
That's it for me.
So let's do it again tomorrow.
Let's do it again with Tuesday's episode,
which as it stands right now,
Tuesday's episode is going to be with Damian Sandow.
It's a fantastic conversation.
Real name Aaron Stevens and the stuff he's been doing
in the NWA.
Amazing.
So yeah.
Corbin Cooper on Instagram says,
"Have you been to South Dakota?"
I love that we just throw on these random questions here.
No, I have not been to South Dakota.
I counted recently, actually.
And I have been to 37 states.
Not bad for someone who's not American.
Not bad for a Canadian who's only been living in the US
for 14 years.
I've been to 50 states.
And I'm sorry, I have not been to 50s.
I've been to 37 of the 50s, I don't know why I said that.
It's because I'm googling right now a list of the 50 states.
So South Dakota is not one that I've been to.
I've also not been to North Dakota.
I'll go through the list of states here
so that if you live in one of these states,
you can invite me to come there and we'll hang out.
We'll go off a bitically here.
I have been to Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California.
I live here, Colorado.
I have not been to Connecticut.
I have not been to Delaware.
Okay.
Florida, I lived in Florida for five years.
Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana.
I have not been to Iowa.
Okay.
I've been to Kansas, Kentucky.
I lived in Kentucky in the Cincinnati area.
I live there for a year, Louisiana. I have not been to Maine. I've been to Maryland, Massachusetts,
Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri. I've been there. Montana. I've not been to Nebraska.
Nevada. I have not been to New Hampshire. New Jersey. My wife is from New Jersey. I've been
New Jersey. I mean, we might have, I haven't even said this publicly yet. We might even move
back to New Jersey. Everything changes when you have a kid. If you're from New Jersey, shoot me
a message. This is not happening in the next month or two or three or five, but when you have a
little girl and your family, my family lives in Canada, her family lives in New Jersey. We have
no family in California. We have a ton of great friends and some beautiful neighbors with best
neighbors, but we do not have family here. So we may move back to New Jersey. Who knows? I've
been to New Mexico, New York, North Carolina. I've not been to North Dakota. Ohio. Of course, I lived in
Ohio for five years. Cleveland. Love it. I've been to Oklahoma. I have been to Oregon, Pennsylvania.
I have not been to Rhode Island, which is neither a road nor an island. I have been to South Carolina.
I have not been to South Dakota, which is, of course, the original question. I've been to Tennessee,
Texas. I have not been to Utah. I have been to Vermont and a lot of fishing and lake
Champlain, the Vermont, New York area there. Love Vermont. I have been to Virginia. I've been to
Washington. I've been to West Virginia. Yes, I've been to Wisconsin. Yeah, we recorded interviews
there. We recorded the interview with Damien Sandow in Wisconsin. We also recorded the interview
with Al Snow and EC3 there. Wyoming. I have not been to and then the DC. I have been to DC.
So I think I said I've been to 37 states. I've clearly listed far more than I've been to.
I've not been to South Dakota. I have always wanted to see Mount Rushmore. It's on my bucket list.
And speaking of things on the bucket list and like just touring around the US, we went to Hoover
Dam last week. We were in Las Vegas for the weekend and Hoover Dam's like shockingly close.
It was like a half hour drive from the Airbnb that we were staying at. It's like less than an hour
drive from the strip. We went to Hoover Dam, fascinating. It's unbelievable how they were able to
put all of that together. It truly is a wonder of engineering. So South Dakota is on the list.
I'd love to come see you there, Corbin, when I'm in South Dakota, checking out Mount Rushmore.
And oh my goodness. Okay, the final question here from my buddy Zeus.Dumb, my very talented friend
who is a videographer and insanely talented editor. A lot of the videos that you see on my channel,
a lot of the vlogs he edited. Go check out the bungee jumping vlog. Go check out the first time
we saw the blue wire studios in Las Vegas. He put together. Go check out any of the workout videos
that I did with EC3 or with Michael Herne and Billy Gunn with Kerry and Cross. Don't tell me
you don't have four more reps in you. Those terrible. It's like a two out of ten impression.
Zeus edited all those together. Give me a follow on Instagram Zeus.Dumb. He says,
what does the future of insight look like for the next three to five years? Let's just keep getting
bigger. I say at the start of every episode, thank you for being here and thank you for making
insight. One of the top wrestling podcasts on the planet. It's just a matter of time. As you guys
continue to show up and as the guests continue to keep getting bigger, it's just a matter of time
before we are the number one wrestling podcast in the world. So three to five years, that might be
too much time. I feel like this is something that could happen in the next three to five months.
Maybe possibly. But I mean, we're five hundred and sixty five episodes in. I can't wait for
episode number one thousand and then fifteen hundred and then two thousand and all that and
everything beyond that. I just I appreciate you guys so much. And that's not just something that I
say because it sounds nice to say, thank you and to say, oh, gratitude. Three things I'm grateful for.
I am truly so grateful for all of you guys, whether you listen to the podcast or you watch
these clips on Tik Tok or YouTube shorts or you watch the full interviews on YouTube or
you click on the silly memes that I share on YouTube or Facebook. I just appreciate you guys.
This has been such an incredibly fun ride and we're really just getting started. So three to five
years from now, we just keep getting bigger. In every single day, we are answering that call of
am I excited for what I'm going to do today and am I proud of what I've done at the end of the day.
And look, I know there's a lot of people listening to this where that sounds crazy.
Every single day, you're excited. That is what is wrong with you. And I get that. I understand
how very, very fortunate I am to do this. I also understand that like I moved to another country
to chase after this dream and chase after these opportunities and it's led me from
Peter Borough, Ontario to Vancouver to Toronto to Cleveland to Miami to buying a house in Fort
Lauderdale to Northern Kentucky and being in the Cincinnati area to Los Angeles to now being
in Orange County. I lived in all these places over the last 18, 19 years. It's been a lot, right?
It's been a long journey. But what I'm getting at here is if there's something that lights you up,
whether that's playing the guitar or it's editing videos or it's singing or it's working out whatever
it is. Make sure to sprinkle that into your life if not every day every week. Because if you are
passionate about playing the guitar and the guitar gets put away in the closet and that thing that
lights you up isn't there anymore, that dream that passion does die. So whatever it is, however
busy you are in your life, make time for those things that do get you excited. And I'm not saying
that it's that you're going to be excited for the day ahead of you every single day, but there
should be some part of every day that you are excited about. Maybe it's watching Dynamite on Wednesday
night. Maybe it's watching Ron Monday night or NXT on Tuesday. Whatever it happens to be. Maybe it's
going to see a certain movie franchise or maybe it's watching a TV show. Maybe it's writing. I don't
know whatever it happens to be. Whatever that thing is that you're passionate about that really
lights you up. That thing that when you talk about it to other people, they can see that fire in
your eyes. They can see that smile growing in your face. Make sure that that's a part of your
everyday or your every week. That's what a long answer that was to come from a question about
what does the future of insight look like for the next three to five years? Let's just keep growing.
And month after month, the show keeps getting bigger because you guys keep showing up here and I
am so grateful for that. Three things I'm grateful for is we wrap up this episode. I'm grateful for
you. I'm grateful for you being here right now, listening to an Ask CVV episode. That's how I know
you are real fans. So I appreciate you. Thank you. Grateful for my family. These are, of course,
never in any order. They're the best. And I'm grateful for our health.
And that my health, your health, the health of the people that I love. I'm grateful for that.
And we will wrap this up with a quote from Martin Luther King Jr.
And this actually kind of ties in what we were just talking about. Faith is taking the first step
even when you don't see the whole staircase. Be great. Be grateful. Have an amazing weekend. Enjoy
this Super Bowl. If you're watching it on Sunday, we will see you on the next one for some more inside.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Driving under the influence of marijuana is illegal and can result in a DUI, with law enforcement and others like friends, parents, or relatives being able to detect signs of impairment.
The recent WrestleMania XL kickoff revealed a strategic pivot in WWE storylines, with Cody Rhodes’ rise and the Rock’s heel turn building suspense and highlighting the importance of patience in wrestling storytelling.
The future of wrestling is shaped by surprise returns, strong storytelling, and the growing influence of social media, with fans valuing authenticity and unpredictability in moments like CM Punk or Edge’s returns.
Summary:
The transcript explores multiple themes, beginning with a strong emphasis on the legal and social consequences of driving high, underscoring that impairment is detectable even without official law enforcement involvement. This sets a tone of personal accountability and societal awareness. The central narrative focuses on the evolving storylines of WWE’s WrestleMania XL, where the Rock’s sudden heel turn and Cody Rhodes’ rise create a pivotal shift in the main event narrative.
The host highlights how patience and narrative pacing are essential in professional wrestling, with the storyline unfolding through a series of strategic events, social media buzz, and promotional moments like the Rock’s appearance on the Pat McAfee show. The episode also celebrates the impact of surprise returns in wrestling history, such as CM Punk and Edge, arguing that these moments deepen fan engagement and create emotional resonance. Additional topics include the growing role of social media in shaping wrestling narratives, the surprising dismissal of Scott DeMoore from TNA, and the personal journey of the host, Chris Fanfleet, who reflects on his career and passion for wrestling interviews.
The host also shares insights into his podcast’s growth, future ambitions, and gratitude toward fans, emphasizing consistency, community, and personal fulfillment. A lighter segment features a discussion on travel, favorite mustaches, and the future of wrestling, ending with a call to action and a positive outlook on the future of wrestling and content creation. The overall message is one of resilience, patience, and community—central to both wrestling storytelling and the personal success of a fan-driven podcast.
FAQs
Yes, driving under the influence of marijuana is illegal in most jurisdictions. Law enforcement can detect impairment, and public observers like friends, parents, or relatives can also notice changes in behavior that indicate someone is driving high.
Law enforcement typically cannot directly detect marijuana impairment through standard tests, but they can infer it based on observable behavior. Additionally, public figures like friends or family can often tell if someone is driving high due to changes in behavior.
Driving while impaired by marijuana can lead to a DUI charge, dangerous driving behavior, and increased risk of accidents. Impairment affects reaction time, judgment, and coordination, making driving unsafe.
Patience is key in wrestling storylines. Fans are encouraged to wait for developments rather than jumping to conclusions, as the full narrative often unfolds over time through consistent storytelling and build-up.
Recent developments include Cody Rhodes' promo with Roman Reigns, the Rock's unexpected heel turn on Pat McAfee's show, and the eventual shift in the main event, which remains uncertain as of the kickoff event.
Surprise returns create excitement and emotional reactions from fans. Moments like CM Punk or Edge's returns are remembered because they were unexpected and generated strong crowd reactions, making them iconic in wrestling history.
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