Ask Me Anything with Jina and Meredith: Crazy Stories, Stupid Self Care and the Matrix

Hello and welcome back to the Yoga Magic Podcast friends. I'm your host Ashley Sandergard and this is a show all about self-care and self-discovery. Yoga was really that catalyst for me to find out what self-care actually felt like and led down this amazing self-development journey and today I just love to bring ideas to you about those areas that you can do this fun work as well. Today is one of my favorite episodes. I've got my girls Gina and Meredith back on the show and we're doing and ask me anything. So I sent out to you guys on Instagram, we love some questions and these questions were so funny, there were so many good ones. We're going to do this again because we didn't even get through all of them and I truly was planning to talk about evening routines this week, I know I mentioned that last week, but this episode was just too funny, I had to get it out right away. So many funny things, we get a little weird, we're talking all about like beings and crazy stories that we've experienced in readings and why hypnosis, it helps how it can help in every day. So we get into some more detailed astrology. It's just a really fun episode and a perfect way to walk into the long weekend. As always friends, I'm so glad you're here. If you want to get more involved in yoga magic, hop on our newsletter, there's more information in the show notes on that and if you love Gina and Meredith, you can book a session with them. Their books are open right now, find out more about them as well in the show notes. You will be back next week with those evening routines I promised, August book reviews, all the good things and sending you into the school year with a nice, relaxing evening routine that you can actually do, that can actually work. So that's coming next week in the meantime, enjoy this, ask me anything. If you have more questions, we're going to do it again, hopefully in the next couple months. So send them my way, we'd love to answer them. Here's Gina and Meredith. Welcome back, Meredith, Gina, my besties, I'm so glad you guys are here, how you doing? I'm so pumped to be here. I am too. I'm going through it with Venus, retrograde, but I'm excited for this episode. Oh, yeah, people are using their shit with Venus retrograde, yeah, I mean, it's hitting my chart pretty hard and it's important stuff I'm moving through, but yeah, the last week my clients personal professional life, like people are kind of like moving through stuff. So if you're moving through stuff, you're not alone, Venus, retrograde, it's a tough one. You're not alone. What about Mercury, retrograde? This one's not so bad. Right? Well, besides my computer issue 10 minutes ago, and I'm just dropping stuff, that's what my Mercury retrograde is looking like, just things are flying out of cabinets. We had a glitch in the major class tonight, my husband and I discovered we have a DVD kind of rack with DVDs on it, and it pulled out a double copy of a DVD, like all of a sudden we had two copies of a movie that we, it's just weird. So like weird shit. I don't know. That you like didn't know. Yeah, like we're very psycho with our movies, like we have like this movie kind of thing. We watch the same movies over and over, and we know what we own. And all of a sudden we own two copies of the same movie, and I was like, kind of freaked out. But I'm like, I've heard of this happening. These glitches in the matrix where somebody buys like a second hand dress from a good will or something, and all of a sudden they have two copies of the dress in their closet. Like this is going around. I know. Really? Yeah. So just social media has kind of like stories like that. And I'm like, oh, I wonder if that's real or if it's a hoax, and I'm like, oh, my God, it happened to me. I have two copies of one thing. I only had a thing. Like a movie, the matrix. No, it was Star Trek. I was forced to buy a sci-fi door, so this is how big of a door guy I am that I literally on my list is to watch the matrix because I feel like people keep referring to like the different pills and the different, like a documentary that is not a movie. That is a documentary. You have not seen that movie. No, but I haven't seen most movies. So it's not like I'm avoiding it. It's just like takes a lot for me to get into the spray. Okay. You should watch it and record our reaction or react to that we should do a few magic movie night. Yes. Because I mean, obviously it you're right, Meredith, it's, it is a documentary. And I watch that movie like once a month and I do want to have like pod. I think it'd be so fun to have podcast episodes. We're like picture us three watching the matrix, but like if you have a little talk, if that's your game to get loose, do that. If you like a little wine or a cocktail and just like get kind of loose, no, I won't do gummies and like think about the matrix and I'm like, oh, that's what that means. Like, I think this is an event. Okay. I'm going to text you. I'll noodle it. Until you live. We're going to do it. We're going to take this event or do something. There's, yeah. And watch, watch out. Yoga magic. We're coming. Okay. Okay. For listeners that are new, can you just tell them who you are and quick little about your work? Gina, why don't you start? Yeah. I'm Gina. My podcast is pass lives and the divine. I am a hypnotist among many other personal hobbies. But I help people experience pass lives through hypnosis and we not only experience them, but then we take that. What does that mean in your life today? How can we move forward? And yeah, I've essentially been helping people kind of get in touch with their true nature, I say, since 2002. So I started in the wellness industry and have landed in hypnosis. And I've been here over five years. Yeah. Awesome. Awesome. And I am Meredith McCallion, owner of Earth in astrology. I'm an evolutionary astrologer, which means I work with pass life symbols in the birch chart. So Gina and I work line up, line up very well. And I've been doing this since 2017 professionally and I'm also a dream worker. So I help people work with their dreams, develop gifts in their dreams and figure out what their dreams mean, as well as doing astrology readings for people all around the globe. These two have shaped my career path and you know, you listeners love them. These are some of the most downloaded episodes. So we're doing an ask me anything today. I saw some questions from listeners. These were such good questions. Some of them were really funny. I feel like we're going to have a lot of good convuls, so let's hop right to it. First question is for you, Meredith. This is something I have thought about a lot and I know kind of like my take on it, but as a more practice astrologer, how do you reconcile with planets in your chart that are either in their fall or their detriment? Yeah. I've been meditating kind of on this question that you sent me ahead of time. And I don't like in a typical astrology reading, I won't use that language with a client. And they'll actually always kind of bothered me. Some of the words that astrologers use like, oh, it's quote unquote, bad if this planet is in this sign at your birth. And the way I think about this energy now, it's kind of like it's your non-dominant hand. So I'm right-handed, but like the planets in the fall or detriment, it's kind of like working with my left hand. You know, it's a little awkward, it's a little bit harder, but I don't get made fun of or criticize or shamed for like my left hand's inability to do what my right hand can. And I will be honest, the only, the energy that shows up the most in my practice is Mars and Cancer. That is the one that repeats like crazy. That is I think one of maybe the more tough placements, so Mars, whoever's listening that doesn't know Mars, he's the God of War. And Cancer is mother energy. So you don't want your mom to be pissed off as a mother. You don't want to be angry all the time. I mean, this is great energy for throwing a boss off of a child, but really like the God of War being in this like divine feminine sign, it's very tough. But typically in a reading, I will not work with fall detriment. I won't use that language, but I do work with rulerships daily. So the ruler of a sign, every sign has a planet that quote unquote rules it. That's kind of like in charge of it. And I use that on the daily, but fall detriment, not so much. And again, I just think of it as like a little clunky, like your non dominant hand. That's the example that I give to work with the energy. It's not bad. I don't think it's bad that I'm right handed. It's just like, it's a little bit easier for me to work with the planets that are more positive. And the planets that are tougher, again, it's just like that left that, I don't know, that's what I keep saying, like working with the left hand. No, you know, I don't think there's anything wrong with me because I'm right handed. Does that make sense? That's how I kind of like work with those. I love that. And I would say like your flavor, your take on things like that is one of the reasons why I really like your astrology. Because like the whole detriment fall thing, I don't know, I just, I feel like it subconsciously puts some things in our mind that doesn't need to be there or pressure or feeling bad about it. But yeah, just like the idea of using a non dominant hand. Because when you start, a lot of my clients are starting to learn astrology and they get freaked out by that language. Right. Yeah. So I try and call those fears and it's not, yeah, I just don't like the negative connotations to some of it. Total agreement. You know, when you look at a chart, there is no good or bad. That doesn't really, you don't have like a good chart or a bad chart. You have what you're given and it's a matter of like how you work with that. People that have that are ambidextrous, like, that's cool. That's really exciting. And if you can work something that is just a little bit clunky or to your advantage, holy cow, like it just, you know, it makes life that much more, you're more resilient, right? If everything was easy, if everything was in its, you know, perfect home spot and everyone was using their tools in this easy way, life would be so boring. So it's what makes life real, you know? - Yeah. - Yeah, that was a good question. - Love it. a question. Yeah. I've never sent that one. And thank you. Gina, what are the benefits of uncovering past lives? And I know that we talked about this last time, but like if you can kind of an overview of like, there's so many benefits. What would you say? Yeah. Oh my gosh. So many benefits. So first, what I will say is first, let's go into it like this. Like if I were to have either of you run a marathon, you're gonna have to have like 10 miles is my max. Yeah. Okay, cool. That's a good max, Meredith. But like we've heard people talk about running a half marathon, running 10 miles, and you even heard about it before you did it. And you could conceptualize it and logically think about what it would be like for you to run that distance. But when you cross that finish line and days later, weeks later, like that memory lives in your body as like an accomplishment, it's way more detailed because you lived through it. Like you are affected differently by having that lived experience rather than just hearing about it. So what I will say about that is that's kind of the difference between a past life reading and a past life regression. So a past life regression, we're using hypnosis. So the client can go in and experience a past life. And this comes through memory. And so the idea is that everything that's ever happened to us is stored in your subconscious mind. And so if you're freaky, deaky like me, and you think there are other timelines, other lifetimes, then that would include those as well. So we go into hypnosis to be able to access those deep sometimes even cut off memories. And it's from there that we can like gain a new perspective that could completely change our life. For example, I've, I say this one a lot, but I'll get people who had parents who abandoned them, whether it was through adoption or a parent that left when they were a kid or just a parent that wasn't a good parent, like emotionally they were abandoned. And this person is now an adult and they are having a difficult time with this relationship with their parent. They come into the session and they're just asking, I've had people ask specifically, like I want to experience a past life that will help me handle this parent better in this life or feel better in that relationship in that life. And some people don't even share this with me. And it's just a part of the story that they that happens in the past life, forgotten when they share it with me later. But essentially this new perspective can come in like I've had clients who in a past life, they abandoned a child just like their parent did in this life. And it's not that like karma and you deserve this. It's literally just like we've all been everything and done everything. And so being able to pull up and relive that memory of being a parent who abandons a child, like one client in particular, I'm thinking about she felt all the pain and agony in that decision. And in that she was able to show up in her relationship with her parent and remember now which one it was, but they are all able to show up in that relationship with their parent with just less emotional baggage. Like in parents, I feel like that primary relationship where it's like if we have a relational issue, it is probably coming through that line. So yeah, gaining a new perspective, embodying something I love to go into a past life regression with the intention to embody something that I really want. Like I have a history of enmeshment, codependence. And so for me, I started using those things as a tool of survival before I even have conscious memories. So to show up as a 40 year old and being like, wait, that's how I'm doing things. That's why it feels like shit. That's why I have no energy. And then learning how to be healthily detached and understanding what that is, it's like, I can't, Gina's brain can't even conceptualize that. So what I've done is gone back into past life regression. I've actually had two of them this year, oh, three of them this year, where part of the intention was just to have an experience that will help me embody that healthier detachment in this life as Gina. And that has been really mind opening and just like stress relieving and the different perspectives. It's literally like being like that person has the skill I want you go and have it their body and be like, oh, that's how you're doing this. And then you take that knowledge and you apply it in your life. And the cool thing with hypnosis, again, we're working that subconscious mind. So when we have these insights, wisdom that we gain, perspective shifts, when we're able to embody a characteristic that we want in this life, it changes in our subconscious mind. And our subconscious mind is the beliefs and the thoughts and the stories in which we operate. We make decisions from there. We see we see or we don't see opportunities in our life from there. We think we have the ability or the worthiness to do something to get something or not. So it's a really cool experience. But then that change just lasts for as long as your life lasts really. And even into other lives, they would say, another thing I'll say is you can get a greater perspective. So one of the things that I do is I have a monthly membership group. And every month we just we kind of hypnotic journey and discover another topic. And so in August, we were all about like, why did you choose this body? How did take care of this body? What to know about this body? So through hypnosis, we can even access our higher self and understand like why we chose our parents, why we chose this body, why we chose this path. And from there, we can get a greater understanding that helps us like make peace with it in this life. Or if we need to disconnect, need to release that. It's easier to see that that that clearly needs to happen. Because sometimes that like a release of a relationship can be really confusing too. So yeah, it touches every part of our lives. My experience too. That's I haven't heard that throw of an answer. You know, that's like I love all those examples. And I'm the I think this most specific example that I have of real benefits is that I've I really used hypnosis to to understand how to parent my three different children in a in the best possible way. Understanding that my relationship with my eldest tends to be like, we've been sisters in many lives. We have this like sister bond. My middle, we alternate between like, I'm the parent, she's the parent, I'm the parent. So there's like some sometimes a little bit of friction. But like, I know that and that makes her so unique. And then my youngest being almost like a twin flame, like an extension of my actual soul. And like, how does one parent themselves, right? And so and I've learned this in hypnosis. It's just like wild. And yet it's subtle. But it makes so much sense. And our words may be like going over your head everybody right now. And that's okay. Because when you experience it yourself, you're just like, it clicks. You're like, oh, I know exactly what she's on your mind. Yeah. Yeah. And I always call out to if you're brand new to this, if you go to past lives in the divine, search that podcast episode three is called anatomy of a past life regression. And it's a really nice layout of like how these sessions go. I mean, everybody does a session a little bit different, but like how these sessions go and just common fears and just the path that we can take the information that we can get. So if this is all new to you, that'd be a good place to start if you want more. Awesome. Meredith, back to you info on YODs. How do you navigate? Like first of all, what is a YOD for people to like what the heck? And this particular listener was like, how do you navigate a cancer moon in YOD? Yeah, I'll do my best to answer that question. I don't know which point of the YOD the cancer moon is on. And I'm a little flamboyant with this specific part of that. But I'll explain what a YOD is first. A YOD is a combination of aspects. There's one sex tile, which means planets are 60 degrees apart. And then there are two in conjunct aspects, which are 150 degrees apart. And the two ink, it looks like a compass point like this. It's like a big triangle in the birth chart. And the sex tile usually is a blue line, very harmonious energy. So those planets are friends. And the ink and junk is usually represented by a green line. But I was thinking about this. I was like, it should be flaming burnt orange poop color because ink and junks are really tough aspects. They're not, I don't think they're talked about enough. They are very, very difficult aspects. And a YOD is nicknamed finger of God. It looks like a compass point. And it will point to one thing with the two kind of green lines if you maybe have a chart in front of you. I don't have a visual sister on a podcast, but that's what it is. One sex tile, two in conjuncts, one 60 degree angle, two 150 degree aspects. And this is considered a destiny formation. I don't like the word destiny. And I don't maybe you guys have another word that you prefer. For some reason, that doesn't quite feel right to me, but I don't have another language to use. And I am getting more and more clients with YODs. They are historically very, very rare to have a YOD in the chart. And honestly, the more clients, I see the more YODs I discover. I mean, I throw the asteroids in there. So it's more likely to have one. I've seen a client with three YODs before, or two YODs. So they're very complex. And they'll, what I've noticed in my practice is they'll stress you out or just kind of give this itchy energy. You feel like you have to do something or you have a mission on earth. And I'm not an expert on YODs. There's actually not very many experts as far as I can tell. There's not a lot of information online about YODs. But I will work to do my best in a session to crack the code with a client. But there needs to be a lot of communication, a lot of conversation back and forth in order to figure out what that means. And well, let's work with a moon and cancer. That's what it was, right? The moon is at home base in cancer. It's ruled by the moon and the moon is mother energy, cancer is mother energy. So if you have a yacht with a moon in cancer, that's either probably having to do something with you being a mother or your mother's line, your relationship with your mother. I'd have to see the whole chart, but mother energy is prominent and has something to do with your quote unquote destiny in that chart. So that's a little, this is advanced astrology by the way, very advanced astrology. So if you're not understanding what the words coming out of my mouth, that's okay. - But that's something that I wouldn't necessarily find in a pretty basic reading. And I think somebody that is curious about this, like do a session with Meredith to find out, do I have one? What does it mean? And I love how you describe in conversation, in evoking what are your values, what's important to you in this life? If it can come out, I hadn't even thought of that. That's such a cool perspective on it. - Right, my sole path session, which is on my website, earthenestrology.com, is where I'll look for a yacht in your chart. If a birch are reading, I might find it too. And then I'll look back in time, forward in time to see my transit if your yacht is activated. Because that's usually, if it's a major outer planet, that's a major turning point in your life. If you're not on course and your yacht gets turned on in your chart, that is a course correction. If you need one, I'm usually again, major turning points in someone's life. - Now I wanna know, I'm gonna have to see you have a yacht actually, Meredith, I don't know actually. - I do, I'm still a baby astrologer. You do, where's yours, Tina? - Yeah, what's yours, Tina, I don't remember. - I don't remember, I just remember the word yacht and being like, oh shit. - I think it went, I feel like it was something to do with Mike. - Mike. - Kairan and. - Oh, no. - No. - Yeah. - Relationships. - I confuse it with yolo. Obviously, that's not the same here. (both laughing) - I do love yolo energy. - I do too. - They're difficult to find because a lot of, even my software doesn't pull in all the aspects. I have to find it kind of by eye or by hand. And yeah, Gina, you've got one. It's hard for me to see you right now, but I think it's pointing towards Palisatina. Does that sound right? - I'll have to double check. But Ashley, if you guys don't know what that is. (both laughing) You know, Stina confirmed you have one. And Ashley, I'll take a look if you want to. - Yeah, no, I don't need to put you on the spot. I will pay you for your time, Meredith. It's all like. (both laughing) - I love it. - Okay. - I do too. That was a cool, I love that. You guys are good questions, everybody. Okay. - Yes. - This one is for you, Gina. What makes somebody good at getting hypnotized? Can you be good and bad? - Yeah, hell yeah. - I've got some astrology to this that I've been put together too. - Oh, okay. I want to hear that. Oh yeah, we have actually, I think we talked about this. - We talked about this. - Yeah. And I would love, I mean, to, there's more and more people studying astrology that are also learning passive hypnosis. So I feel like this is going to be a huge illusion because historically, there's a couple books written by passive hypnotist that know astrology. But the water signs typically boom out. The air and the earth signs struggle. I'm an earth sign, a lot of earth, no water in my chart. I just had my third pass life hypnosis two months ago as my most successful one. So it depends on, you know, I've got this Capricorn control. Aquarius also control. - That's what it is. - That's what it is. - My ego, oh my god. - That's what it is. - I don't know if you've had this experience. I've done psychedelics and also gotten hypnotized. And I have a similar relationship with my ego under both. It's like Meredith is gagged and bound in the back of my subconscious. But she's always trying to fight to gain control. Whether I'm on psychedelics or hypnotized. And I have to talk to myself now. My last hypnosis, I talked to myself a week in advance to I talked to my ego. I said Meredith can out of the way. And I had a lot of success with that. So if you're nervous, I get clients, Gina, that tell me, I can't be hypnotized. But they've never tried it. So I'm like, you're setting that. You're manifesting that you can't get hypnotized. So start to affirm to yourself, I can be hypnotized. I feel safe with my practitioners. - Yeah. - Whatever you need to tell yourself. - So I'll let Gina answer that question. But that's fine. - Oh my God. - So I am so glad you answered that because I've heard you say that before Meredith. I actually just listened to that soulful Mystics podcast episode where you're on. - Oh you did. - Like they just released it, I think. - I know they could drop today. - Yeah, yeah, okay. So first of all, what I'll say is we all have the ability to be hypnotized. And we all move through that brain wave state at least twice a day if you're someone who sleeps. So we all move through it on our way to sleep. We all move through it on our way back from sleep. It's kind of a, I describe it it well in it is, but like the brain wave state between deep meditation and sleep. So you're still awake, you're still conscious in theory. Like you really are still in control. Even though you might feel like there's parts of yourself that's like, I don't want to do this. Like you are in control for sure. Everybody is born with this ability. It is a part of this Earth suit. You can do it. The only thing is is if you don't want to do it, if you don't feel safe, if you don't think you can do it, human intention is the most powerful thing on this planet. And you will block yourself. So I've always, I've never had a client who didn't go anywhere and get anything, but I have wrestled verbally in a hypnotic induction using deepeners to help people get convinced that they are having an experience. And it's pretty wild how people will not, how people will deny that experience. Like, oh, I didn't get anything. Like I'll hear that. The first one totally, I was like, I made all that up. I made it up. And then they'll say, I didn't get anything. And I'll be like, well, what did you experience? And then it'll be like, oh, so you had a life on another planet, you just are in denial about it. Like, yeah, it's like imagination. Well, you know, like, that's your right. But that doesn't mean hypnosis is wrong. That doesn't mean the hypnotist is bad. That just means you're not ready. You don't want to do it, whatever. So everyone can do it. And then because we're humans and our brains have this amazing ability called neuroplasticity, it's just the more we do something, the easier it gets. That's why the first time you run a mile, it's way fucking harder than the hundredth mile that you run. It's just our body and our brain's ability to get better at things. So we don't have to use so much effort going forward. And everything we do is touched by that, including moving into a hypnotic trance. So the more you do it, the easier it gets. Some people, they can get it. They can go into a hypnotic trance without even an induction. They're just like psychically open. Some people need that induction. I honestly think that we're all open and connected. I don't even know if in 10 years, 20 years, are we even going to be talking about hypnosis? I think eventually we're all just going to be able to astrally travel, access this information without necessarily doing hypnosis. So yes, some people are better than other people. Or it comes easier. But at the end of the day, we can all do it. The more you do it, the easier it gets. I'm at a point right now where I don't even need a hypnotic induction. Like I just need repetitive movement. So if I go on a walk with the intention to get information, I will get it. If I sit down and just get quiet to do, say like a group property reading, I can get it. But to me, I wouldn't have been able to do that without a hypnotic induction five years ago. So it is something we can for sure get better at. And are we getting better at it? Or are we just clearer about what our intuition is saying? And trusting it more, it's all involved. But for sure we can all do it. We can all get better at it unless you don't think you can or you don't want to then. - Can I ask a question about like trans states? And maybe there's no science behind this. But when I tell people, you know, when they say I can't be hypnotized, I bring up examples like, well, have you ever driven in a car on a really long stretch? And I was like, oh, where did I go? For I drove 45 miles. And I'm like, I wasn't really paying attention. Or when you're a kid in school is zoning out at your desk, that's kind of a trans state, isn't it? Like you're not fully there. And that's kind of similar to hypnosis wavelengths. I'm, again, I don't know if there's science behind some of that stuff, but that is being hypnotized, basically, if you're zoning out on a long boring drive. - Yes, yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I always say like you experience it twice a day if you sleep, but really like if you drive, if you do a lot of the same boring things, like you're going out of that trans state a lot, probably. Like watching TV, you're in a trans state. Like, that's why I can't even watch TV with commercials anymore. 'Cause my mind is just like, I can't know, like even YouTube with commercials, I cannot do it. I hear a commercial and it's off. Like, same. - That is, you guys, this is just like clicking right now. 'Cause I can't watch TV anymore. - Yeah. - When I did watch TV, I would become so entranced, truly, that like, I couldn't, I wouldn't even see what was going on with like my kids. Like if we sat down for a movie, I just get so into it and I'm very easily hypnotized, cancer son, in the front just like very open. And now it's too much to watch TV. I know that sounds so stupid. - No, I can't watch TV anymore. - And Ashley, your kids right now are hypnotized, aren't they? (laughs) - Well, one of two of them are, one of them is watching TV. But also because there, before you turn seven, - You're in a train. You're literally flippin osmosis and like no wonder when they say stuff like about their past lives Which I'd you know they don't know that they're saying that but they'll mention something like oh this happened And I'm like of course it did of course it did like you know these things That is cool the TV thing I totally yeah our seating kids They just like immediately sucked in so yeah, yeah No, I'm not to say that we shouldn't be watching TV especially kids. Oh, I still watch TV. Just without commercials Yeah, I upgraded my YouTube accounts. I got beyond it. Yeah, I Just read I read my books I read my smuddy books and that's that gets me my relaxation time Okay, this question's for me any self-care practices that you think are waste of time. Oh, I love this way like this one I want to know what you say I am I mean I have lots of lots of opinions on this But I think the overarching thing is that if someone is telling you that you need to do something for your self-care And it doesn't feel good to you literally do not do it. It is not if I tell you you're supposed to meditate And it doesn't serve you don't you don't have to do it. It's a complete waste of time because We have become so pressured and so shoulded on as it relates to self-care It's it's it's very overwhelming and I feel very opinionated now that like it's there's just It's another thing on the to-do list and so it can be so simple But only you know what suits you what's best for you and it could be totally weird. It could be something like you know a fire breathing breath for every few minutes in the day like that's what feels good for you and Great, no one doesn't matter to anyone else, but you and so throw out all that that should from other people From TV from influencers from me let it go. What do you guys what do you guys think? I love that. I love that advice. I think that Everything that So hundreds of clients I've sat through hundreds of conversations maybe even thousands with people in their spirit guides Not even I'm not even counting my conversations with my spirit guides, and that's what it is. It's like what you desire what interests you what you're curious about are key key pieces to understanding yourself and what's going to work for you what's gonna work for you in relationship What's gonna work for you taking care of yourself? What's gonna work for you for work? And so I think what's really important is to like Take in any external advice and always run it through a filter of how does this feel to me and maybe it's like Yo, I just hate meditation. It's never worked for me. And then it's like well, it's coming to my orbit again What is it from meditation that does seem appealing to me? Oh, I like the The quiet time and the time to be with my thoughts Well, if sitting in one place with your eyes closed is on an appealing to you could you go on a bike ride lay in the grass Could you stand barefoot somewhere could you like all kinds of different ways that we can when someone offers a self-care thing There's a reason why and so if you can figure out why you're drawn to it Then just use that use that get curious about all the different ways You could access that piece of mind that relaxation that replenishment that energizing Mm-hmm, and I really do and from the spirit guides It's really like life on earth is partially figuring out figuring out this earth suit figuring out how we Yeah, and just like Let it be fun. Let it be an exploration. We can also have it be a serious heavy Torturous exploration But like yeah, go with the things. You're intentionally adding things into your life So go with what seems genuinely interesting and and enjoyable to you for me personally I'm in and out with meditation, but meditation for me is something I drop when I notice that during the meditation I'm annoyed or bored with it. Yeah Or I find myself dreading it like oh, I'm dreading that daily meditation and then for me It's like yes, I'm gonna let that meditation go, but I'm probably I will find something To access whatever benefits I was trying to get after that and and to know that like we change Everybody changes we change from face-to-face day to day. So these things will change. It's not a set it and forget it thing probably Yeah, I can change ebbs and flows. Yeah This is my Favorite question that I cannot I'm so excited to hear what comes out of us. This is kind of for everybody Mara, let's start with you. What's the craziest story that you can share in the work that you've done anything That's like happened that it's just crazy town wild. I have so many I Wish I was better at logging like the glitches in the matrix the crazy stuff I hear But one story kept popping in my head when I saw that question Um, and this one is a little darker undertones So I want to just say everything is fine at the end of the day But this was my first experience with this kind of like darker energy. This is years ago I remember is like it felt like late at night and I was doing a session. I was working with Natalie Fowler at the time who was a psychic and we had a client book a 90 minute session We were don't offer those anymore, but we did back in the day And they ended up being 45 minutes late for the 90 minute session and We're kind of like looking out the door. Where's the client? Where's the client? They walked in finally And now they picked up on something before they even walked in and we did the session And I'm gonna make this long story short, but I noticed I use my iPad back in the day when I was in in-person sessions I had an iPad with charts in front of me and my iPad battery drained like 90% and 45 minutes are like something ridiculous where you normally in a typical session even a 90 minute session My iPad would drain like 5% So I've never seen I've heard that happened like ghost hunting experiences like batteries go wild And the client needed a huge clearing There was like an entity or I don't I don't know that was about my pace kill at the time But that factored into why they were 45 minutes late we figured out there was like Something trying to not have that client come see us and I'm getting goosebumps just talking about this like something was trying To not let the client to allow to see us because like I don't know that entity or whatever it was knew that if the client got to us We were gonna get rid of it. It's gone. I follow up with the client the next day. They're like, yes, great Everything shifted after the session, but I had never noticed like batteries draining That was my first experience with kind of like into the astrology joint session something like that happening Um, and I don't get scared. I strangely in a session. I'm like I don't know Gina. Maybe you've probably dealt with some darker scary or stuff too But I there's something just overcomes me and I'm like not today motherfucker But yeah with a battery draining thing I've again Going back to the beginning of this podcast like that glitch in the matrix my husband experienced last night I've heard stories of ghost hunts where batteries drain and equipment goes But that was the first time I experienced it myself and only time to date and my practice So a little bit of a darker one, but at the happy ending Definitely. Yeah, they're there it isn't scary. I'm with you. I like when I yeah Even I've like done some entity remover with you Gina and like in when I worked in a haunted house hotel growing up Like it wasn't scary. They're just yeah Because we are so powerful. We are so much more powerful than Then anything that's lingering around here. So yeah, like if people are getting freaked out by this kind of stuff We are powerful. We have control Yeah, another thing I really like about the hypnotic trance space is that It's really easy because you're accessing this like deeper wiser part of yourself is is the way I see it. It's like Your emotions are there, but they're not controlling you So like in that space in a hypnotic trance when you experience an entity um It's a lot of just kind of like matter of fact like no, I don't want this here and there could be like you that's creepy But it's not that is not Being transmuted into fear that's then propelling you in a certain direction like this ability to like really Operate and be aware of your emotions, but not so controlled by your emotions. Um, and so in entity removal. That is Great Yeah All in program to be so afraid of it. Yeah. Yeah. What about you, do you know? Yeah Craziest story. So I do have some crazy entity stories one in particular like tried to It was like around my throat, but I cleared it all good. That's not what I'm gonna say. So my first So there's two of them that actually kind of come to mind and they're like rivals right now So I'll just save them both quick, but I one time had a past life regression I went into it thinking it was a past life regression Me personally in my personal life. I don't necessarily think these are in the past I think it's all happening at once But I call it past life regression because you get what I'm talking about So anyway, I went into a past life regression and found myself on another planet Which took me a while to like actually go with that and then um I realized that I was on that planet doing some work But like earth was a memory in like a fond memory. Like it didn't exist anymore or I couldn't go back anymore um and And then the past life regression actually ended. I was on a planet as an old man being a teacher, teaching whatever it was I was exploring and finding. And the death scene was like a dream death scene like I would love it if I could recreate that in this life. But in that was like I was on a planet that was similar to Earth, but it was very treacherous like you would only go into the ocean like if you wanted to die. And that's in fact where a lot of people would go to die. And that's where I died in that past life. I was in this like essentially this like little bubble thing. And I was in it ready to die. And I went into it. And it went into the ocean. And it just got rocked by the waves. And my soul just kind of like slowly ascended out of that body. And that was like the whole intention of going in the pod, and going into the ocean. I'm talking to you about this. I don't remember I shared, but my husband had a dream about that happening to him. What? Yeah. I don't know if it was a dream or a meditation experience, but my husband shared that with me. And I'm like, well, Gina from past times in the divine had some of our experience. And he's like, he's not ready yet. But like the mind slide where you can tell they're like, they're listening, but they're not. Oh, I love that story, Gina, because I love aliens. But so cool. And that was your first alien life, right? That you experienced in hypnosis. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I actually, that's on my podcast episode 108. And it's like lessons from the future or something like that. But I've had other red planet lives have been very, very impactful. But that was the first one that really sticks out to me. And then I've had clients who like experience light beings. And in the first time I did that, it was like hard to calibrate energy. The client was having a hard time. And yeah, there's no language in my experience. Yeah, there's no language. And sometimes the frequency of them can be like uncomfortable to us, which can be like, maybe listen to that episode. I just put out, but that's what my body felt like it was almost too intense. It was only the edge of being too. Yes. Yes. I've never had that physical feeling before. But I've, that's when I was experiencing a light beam. Yeah. It's like I was going to float out of the chair. It's pretty cool. So what's your other one? Do you have another like crazy story? Well, I would say it is the second one that came to mind was this client. And it's episode 91 of past lives in the divine, but she encountered light beings. And we were just, we did a past life regression always after past life regression. I go to a space of spiritual guidance with my client. And that's where sometimes like, they're passed away relative or whatever will come and visit them spontaneously, which to me is probably like my favorite. Like it always makes me cry. And, but yeah, I would say this one episode 91 experiencing light beings. That was like, you can actually hear me like struggling being like, okay, can you have them step back so we can like figure out how we're going to talk to them? So intense. Yeah. It's so cool. Oh my gosh. That is G.I. when you're describing this is like for listeners, because I've been talking a lot about, I like to talk about the books that I'm reading, just like fun pop culture books, right? And I'm reading, I just finished the full throne of glass. I know you've read those to the Sergei mask. And you're, you would mention just a moment ago, like that we're all kind of like the world exists at the same time. And that's how she describes this is such a tangent. But like her books in that they are existing in different worlds at the same time. And at the end of throne of glass, there's a moment where the main character from that series is falling through worlds and she sees the characters from a quarter thorns and roses. And like, I know, right? And so you listeners that are not reading this stuff are like, what the f? But it's this I'd say my idea, like all these things are existing at the same time. And I believe that like we're just sometimes a matter of accessing it. Oh, that is just like it. And I do believe that. I do believe that, like especially with like Game of Thrones, like that is a world somewhere. Like yeah, that did not just come from a human brain. Like he that author is accessing information of other lifetimes, other worlds. That's what I think. That's how you can go like so into detail and so into the mindset of people as opposed to and like write a story. Yeah. Yeah. I believe that. I got I forgot about that part. My story isn't quite as cool as your guys is. But I think this is like when I really realized how powerful astrology is, I was doing a bachelor at party or no, what was that? It was like a birthday party or something. And this woman sat down and was just doing like shorty readings for everyone there, like 10, 15 minute birth chart readings. And this woman sits down and I'm reading her chart. And she just has like this blank look on her face. And that's not normally the response I ever people. She was just kind of like, like I don't know, like didn't seem like it was correct. And I'm like, she kind of at the end, she's like, this really doesn't sound like me. And I was like, well, let's check your birth time. Like let's make sure that this is the right information. Like, you know, if this doesn't sound like you. And I'm going on and on for like 15 minutes trying to figure it out. And she's just giving me nothing. And at the very end of the session, she goes, this really sounds like my twin sister. Well, there you go. Like, of course it does. Because theoretically, you know, twins that are born with and even just a few like minutes. And I think she'd said that like a minute or two apart, they're very close. They share the chart. And so for whatever reason, I was just reading the parts of the chart that really resonated with her sister and not with this person. But like, it wasn't wrong. It was just that it wasn't her. That is so fun. It's like blown away. Isn't that wild? Yeah. Yeah. You're like, I'm reading your twin. Literally. Well, Gina knows twins are tricky. In nostalgia, they are. Yeah. And I'm looking forward to more education myself on twin charts. Because they do split. And each person on earth wants to be an individual. So when you share energy with someone, one of you might take the moon, one of you might take the sun sign, or one of you might take more of the negative expression of the chart, one of the positive. So it's tricky. It is a good story. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. You guys, we have more questions, but we're coming to time. So maybe we have to do this again. Get some more questions. These were all so good. Let's do it again. I love it. Part two. I mean, anything, anything you guys have coming up, you want to promote or anything you want to share with listeners? I, yeah, I actually have a new workshop. I'm putting together with a medium. So there's a lot of intuitive development courses classes out there, but I've had a lot of requests from clients who are coming into a gift of mediumship, which means they can communicate to deceased loved ones or something's happening to them. And I'm putting a three-week course together with a medium that's going to launch the next couple of weeks. So check my website. Earth clean astrology is going to be very small class to keep it intimate. But if you think you might be communicating with someone and want to maybe enhance that, this course might be for you. Ooh, very cool. Can I check that out? Very, very cool. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just working on behind the scenes. Well, I actually just will be putting on an email this Friday. I have a retreat that's going to go in Sedona in March 2024, which I'm super excited about. I think I'm going to come. I haven't told you. I think I'm going to go. Guys, I'm so pumped about Sedona. I really am. And so that, but then fall is all about me getting ready for kinship 2024, my annual membership. I'm really excited about that actually, because this month in kinship, like I said, we're talking about the Earth suit, the body, why'd you pick it? How to take care of it? And 2024 is going to be like even deeper into that. Like how to deal with this body? What's a yes in this body? What's a no in this body? How to take care of this body? How does nature really affect this body? And just like all of the different things of like having an Earth suit. And I'm so pumped to do it. Like I personally have been on this journey for a couple of years. And so to have it kind of materialize in a way that I can bring it to a group of people, I'm really excited about that. So yeah, my membership, I'm prepping for that. So if you're interested, pass lives in the divine.com you can click on kinship that's under the work with me. And that registration doesn't open up till November, but but get on that email list. Thanks you guys. I love this so much. It's just wonderful. I would love to answer more questions are like my love language. I love it. Yeah, we will. All right, thanks babes. Thanks again for tuning in everyone. Thanks to Gina and Meredith for being on the show once again. If you want to learn more about them, book a session with them, check out their information in the show notes. And if you want to be more involved in the yoga magic community, check out our newsletter. You can sign up for that in the show notes as well. And I would love to see you again next week. We'll be talking evening routines. Thanks so much for being here friends.