Ashley Padilla

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Tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, including ALS Lou Gehrig's disease, myasthenia gravis, or Lambert-Eaton syndrome, and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. Why wait? Ask your doctor. Visit BotoxChronicMigraine.com. Or call 1-800-44-BOTOX to learn more. We're going to talk about how lucky we are to have comedy as our job and how we pinch ourselves every day. We're going to get into a lot of good stuff. But before we do, we are going to talk to somebody who knows our guest, who works with our guest, and that is Andrew Dismukes, another hilarious performer and writer on SNL, a good Texas boy who has a real New York coffee order. So let's check in with Andrew. I believe he's speaking to us from a poorly lit hotel room. Andrew? This episode is brought to you by Uber. 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Andrew, I was so happy that we were talking today and realizing that I need to get you into the stude. Because I feel like. Are you a New York guy? Did you grow up in the East? I don't know enough about you. No. No, you're not. I'm from Texas originally. But, you know, I've become a New York guy in my heart. Actually, you have. Because you've been living in the city for how long now? Yeah, nine years now. Dang. It's crazy. And I've seen, like, none of it. Every time people ask me, like, what my favorite restaurant is, I'm like, there's one, like, two blocks from my house that's great. And do you have a set tonight? Stand-up set tonight? Or did you just do one last night? I did one last night, flying back home later. How did it go? Crushed. Crushed. Let's just say it. There's no two ways about it. Crushed. And did you change some minds? You changed some lives? Well, that's what it's really all about, is it's about touching hearts and changing minds. And we did. We did. Yeah. Yeah. And I know I have heard that people have asked you to stop touching their hearts. And I said, well, too bad. But HR has asked you to stop touching some of their hearts. I'm just trying to change people. Like, well, you're literally touching their hearts. I thought that's what I was supposed to do. I'm very excited to talk to you about Ashley today because you two have something that you just kind of can't manufacture, which is chemistry. You two have a way of being together in the world as performers that feels very natural. And fun and playful. How did you first meet? We first met at the show, like her first episode. And just pretty quickly, it was clear that like, oh, this is somebody who has got chops like crazy. And I think specifically both like performer and writer chops like she's such a confident performer and so able to bring like real acting to the sketches. She does. But then also like what she writes, you're also like, damn, you're good at both of those things. That's crazy. And did you start writing with her right away? No, really. Her whole first season, we didn't collaborate much. I think we maybe wrote one or two things that didn't make it to air. But yeah, the first real collaboration was the weekend update thing. The couple who just hooked up. Right. And your tie is askew. My tie is askew. It's very steamy. It's very, her hair has got that bed head thing. And you guys are talking about the Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that is my favorite thing about weekend update features is what the characters are talking about. Yeah. This is who you got to talk about this. And they're doing a very bad job. It's like just the worst run show in the world. That's like the premise of weekend update is they have the worst booker of all time. Yeah. They have terrible guests. And what do you like about writing? I think what I like the most about Ashley's writing and writing with her is like her ideas are all like about playing the realness of the scene. And so that's just fun to create in that space where it's like we're playing real emotion to comedic effect rather than like being kind of over the top silly. It's just a fun energy to get into. Yeah. I want to talk to her about that today is that, you know, she's a really good actress. And so she's. She's like acting everything very naturally and very real. And it's funny because she puts herself in very insane. And she's often like very incredulous as a character. She kind of can't believe what's happening to her. Yeah. I think about the like fart sketch that she did, which everybody loves a fart sketch. But it's so funny the way she plays it, where it's like this woman is very legitimately upset that it just happened. And it's not like, oh, I farted. It's like, oh, my God, I fart. I'm like, I just love that. I love that approach that she has. Me too. For people that don't know, she plays a woman who her co-workers try to surprise her. They turn on the lights and she farts as soon as she sees them. And it's just like downhill from there. She cannot get past it. And then there's like two minutes of her asking everybody what they make, what their salary is. So good. Played very real. Do you have a question for Ashley today? Anything big or small that I could ask her? I feel like Groundlings specifically, when people come to SNL from Groundlings, it's that it feels like that. It feels like those people are so equipped for SNL off the jump, thinking like Mikey, Heidi, Ashley, as well as like former cast members who come back and host. It just feels like that's the most mappable. Training ground for people in a really interesting way. And I guess I'm just curious what it would like if she has any insight in like what was it that she learned in Groundlings or what was it that Groundlings specifically instilled in her that made her be like so ready and so equipped? What's the thing she learned in Groundlings or just from that time in her life that she feels like has applied the most to being on SNL? Ah, great question. I mean, what if we found out that Groundlings. Groundlings has like a mini SNL set and they just run drills? That would be. Quick changes. I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, I'm just so impressed with her like so quickly. I'm like, what's the secret? How did. What did you learn? Like, please tell me. She does do a thing that I think good and I think you do this too. And is that, you know, in sketch you have to be grounded, but you also can't be like too, too internal, too interior, you know, I'm sure like actors come on the show and they're, they get kind of quiet and like really want to, and you're like, oh no, you have to be loud. Totally. Totally. Yeah. I think especially just in that room, like, I think people have talked about it where it's like, doesn't have the best acoustics. Like there is a thing of like, sometimes you'll do a sketch and you'll be like, I don't think anybody in that room heard what I was saying. I think everybody in the audience was like, oh wow, they just went and did like a silent little play. Yeah. - Yeah. - And we didn't enjoy it, but-- - They did a little whisper play. whisper play so yeah being still able to being able to be micro but also like yeah play play big enough to get laughs in that room is very important and she does do that very well yeah right on awesome well it's it's great to see the last time i saw you i felt like i was dressed as a man and i was holding a tortoise because of something that you wrote where you're dressed as a man and holding a tortoise well thank you for that and then thank you for doing that we really appreciated it of course and i will i the the tortoise wrangler who you know um was very nice uh did warn me that the tortoise could and would most likely bite and you handled it like a champ and we really appreciated that because we the wrangler did said that and we were like and you're cool with that right and you're cool with maybe getting bit totally um well thank you for talking in from your hotel room um good luck with the coffee thank you please don't turn any lights on just stay as stay in the dark stay in the dark because this is just sort of where i like to be this is just where i'm most comfortable yeah um with a hard light coming here i think that's best for a zoom and i'm sure that your producers are really happy that uh i i that this is my configuration well we're gonna we're gonna use those zoom filters we're gonna put on funny sunglasses we're gonna put on like a beret you make me look like a cool tough guy yeah nice like a cool yeah like a new yorker right like new york i got sunglasses on like a new york because i'm a cool tough guy andrew thank you so much for doing this ashley's gonna be thrilled that we talked and it's so great to see you yeah thank you so much okay buddy bye bye thanks folks it's officially fall which means we've entered the season of change changing leaves refreshed wardrobes and new routines but the one thing that doesn't need to change your phone the smartest upgrade this season isn't a new phone it's a better wireless plan switch to visible the ultimate wireless hack you get unlimited 5g data and unlimited hotspot powered by verizon for just 25 a month that means keeping the phone you already love ditching your overpriced phone bill and saving enough to give yourself a pumpkin spice all season long all the perks of big wireless for half the cost switch today at visible.com the visible plan starts at 25 a month or get our premium visible plus plan and save ten dollars on your first month with promo code hang terms apply see visible.com for plan features and network management details i'm so glad you're here this is surreal come on come on i'm so excited crazy yeah i know what people don't know that we're talking in a very stormy and rainy morning it's very rainy i mean i don't know if people care about the weather outside when we do this i guess every day you're like today's the day we're talking about the weather outside when we do this i guess every day you're talking about the weather outside when we do this i guess every day you're like today's the day we're restaurants around town and do it for free. And they're like, get out of our, we don't, and it was this thing we came up with and he like recorded it with me and how old were you? Edited it with me at 13. So he was the one who was like, you have something and I like comedy and let's make this. And he was like, he was the man, he played the manager of this place. I was like, get out of here. And I'm like, I like doing this. And I was there. And I remember being so proud of myself that I could keep a straight face. Like you'd be like cut. And I'd be like, I didn't even laugh. It was hilarious the whole time. That was funny the whole time. I was keeping that in. I wanted to laugh. Were you watching sketch at the time? Like, did he? I don't know that I was watching sketch. Cool uncles who like introduce them to music and comedy. Oh yeah. What were you watching at 13 or what were you into? I was watching The Office and I was really obsessed. With it. I was really obsessed with Dwight Schrute. Yes. And I wanted to, that's kind of what I, why I wore the glasses as Esther. And like, I was obsessed with him in a big way because he was doing the thing I wanted to do, which was being crazy and committing to it. And what was crazy and funny was that he was doing it out of his own truth as a character. So he wasn't trying to go for the joke. What was funny was that he was, he thought this was serious and it was that. Well, that is what is, I think is so interesting about your work is like, I do think you come to it from an acting place, right? So did you, did you want to be, did you consider? when you were a young person like did you say i wanted to be comedian or do i want to be an actor i don't think i knew the difference i just knew same with steve carell i mean like his the laughs he would get i'd watch the office just stay and my mom always got me the um season for christmas like i knew it was coming every christmas was the new season in like the dvd set because i would sit and watch it for hours because that's the whole without realizing it that is what they're all doing they're all just acting really well right and steve carell as well just all this little inner work that he's doing right he's getting the laugh he's barely sometimes has lines and he's getting a laugh yes so yes i i didn't put two and two together i just think it's it just was natural it was like oh that's how i get the laugh is when i am so locked in i remember there was this like once i remember there was this thing i did for a friend my friend sierra we went to a museum i don't know why we were just like having a gal's day as you do you go to the museum and drink grape juice you know okay so you know and we were doing that and we were at the museum and i was making her laugh because i was acting like the bench in the middle of the place was a piece of artwork and i was like it's real and people started watching and she's crying nearby and i remember running down later at groundlings in class like the bench is beautiful believe the bench is beautiful believe it is there's art all around this girl but she thinks that's a piece of art believe it's beautiful and it it's like just suspend people's but i don't know it's a joke you don't know you're funny the character doesn't know they're funny never ever so did you come from a funny family you have three siblings yes what is your birth order i'm second so lindsey's the oldest it's me and then sammy and teddy and they are they would attest this they're they're all funnier than me and funny mom my mom is very funny you're very close to your mom yes and your i love that your mom was like you should go into comedy yeah that doesn't happen a lot where someone's mom is like think about comedy groundlings yeah she googled comedy class and was like okay so what did she do for a job she worked at adobe and worked her way up software and worked her way up like didn't go to college single mom four children dang at my age now what what it doesn't make sense no wow yeah and so for her to do that i mean all four of us have unique talents like we're all like my sister has a hair salon my little sister is a tattoo artist like my little brother's a great screenwriter also working as a nurse but he writes these movies like he like everyone and she just watered those plants she wasn't trying to make you not do it she wasn't trying to go no go do this ashley go play football or whatever parents make you do yeah go play football i got lucky she didn't make me do that we all kind of learn by people modeling for us what did you learn about work by watching your mom work for you work so hard that she could uh she was just a hustler she still is she's just a hustler like even at adobe working her way up at that company you know she she became an executive producer of like the live events so when we would go i did hair and makeup for a long time that's how i would make money and she would hire me to do hair and makeup me and my sister and at these big events and you just you're on the headset and she's like what and i was like what a powerhouse like she just knew what she wanted and like was like and all these like love everyone that works there a lot of men yeah and she's like the one telling like producing and it was just so cool and i do think it influenced me and also her saying go do this like you can do it but i just never had any fear i never wondered if i was too small for the world or like yeah that never crossed my mind because she was such a great example of that so cool yeah i mean she says okay let's look up comedy clubs yeah and it could have ended so badly it's so crazy she's like you and i are going to a comedy club and you're gonna do comedy for your mother it's crazy did you think that you were this was gonna be your job no way i was so no way no way no and i i was so scared for life like i was i didn't go to college i went for a week at community college i left on a friday i went on a monday left on a friday like i left something in my car i'll be right back oh my god i wish i should have done that instead i pull aside oh you're a teacher sure not in charge of that pull him aside i'm like i can't do this i don't know what i'm doing and he was like so you need to go to the administration don't i'm teaching biology or whatever and i sobbed him and i said i just can't do this isn't for me oh because i was seen there going i just got out of this yeah i just got out of high school that i hated and what kind of student were you oh awful i'm i'm shocked awful i'm shocked you see you're so smart i'm shocked that you but i had no interest in anything they were putting out with that you were like i'm never gonna need i said when am i gonna need this you tell me and i will submit this homework because tell me i'm trying to figure out your don't worry we'll cut this jenna i'm trying to figure out your enneagram number because you're such a this is very challengery wait what well but not being a good student bad girl not just not being a good student bad girl tell me more what do you mean how did you get in trouble arrested no finally we got to it she's got a record talk to me badia disorderly conduct was it some kind of what was it okay shoplifting okay here's what i was charged with okay obstruction of justice resisting arrest that's so cool my mother pulling in as i'm cuffed on the cop car cuffed on top of the cop car she pulls in single mother pulls in her boyfriend's truck that's still on one second she gets out and she's looking at me like talking to the cop and he's like so we found her in the rosebush my extension's crazy i've got my like flip phone thing with the keyboard and i'm like my mom's my mom's here these cops basically i was like leave i was like running from a party that's what i mean right from a party but there had been a hit and run down the way oh and me and i can't say his name i had my fake chanel he had my fake chanel oh my god did they care that it was fake did they get you get over here no they they arrested me and i was like oh my god i'm not gonna let you get out of my house i'm not gonna let you get out of my house i'm not gonna let you get out of my house i'm not gonna let you get out of my house me because i hid in a rosebush for i think four hours and when they pulled me out i said i said and they wrote this down they wrote this down it was in the police report i said it's about time you motherfuckers caught me ashley for who why is that four i love that four was i on camera i mean what because you know what because but you doubled down because when you were like you were nervous and you were like i'm gonna go extra cocky i can relate i went so cocky i was in a tube top hair 16 about time so 16 it's about time you guys caught me they cuffed me and i was like please uncuff me before my mother gets here and they were like fine and they like uncuff me and i said how'd you guys know that i was there and they were like we had the place surrounded and this boy young boy who ran with me had your fake chanel what did he also get arrested yes he did he got arrested and so did you go to court where charges dropped well this is where it gets interesting if it wasn't already they were like because you're 16 or something we're not this can be removed from your record mm-hmm you go to court ordered therapy with your mother and your mother was like i'm busy excuse me that's that's punishment for her i she had to sit there and i remember i love you mom she had these like red nails blonde hair she's a working woman she's sitting there and the therapist was like i want you guys to draw oh for me my mom was like no and she's like okay and i remember she like didn't she's like flipping her magazine like i'm not doing that and i drew something and they said draw yourself and draw a house that's what they said to do whoa and i drew a house and myself and i should not amy the woman says now why did you draw yourself smaller than the house and i was like because my mom's like the clock's ticking and why did you try it and i was like to fit in the house and she's like no you feel small like it was like crazy and i was and i mean while i'm like my mom has to i'm already in trouble and my little brother had to come i don't know why he was like i'll draw two and he was trying to draw two and i was like i'm already in trouble and my little brother had to come and he was like i'll draw two and he was trying to draw two and i was like i'm already in trouble and i'm like my mom has to i'm already in trouble and my little brother had to come and he drew a castle with a man named fred getting electrocuted on the on the side of the castle and she said i'm gonna keep this one for the files and my mom was driving i'm like great now they're gonna take teddy now the court's gonna take teddy it was like this is you were a bad she deserves an oscar if that's what we should give her what is an oscar for being a mom she had to deal with some then she was like take some take some of your comedy fun she was like channel some of this into a professional experience yes stop okay stop stop stop and like i went and got a job at sephora and they gave me a job i mean i just loved having a job that i actually liked i was probably just i was just in bliss and like there was a rule you had to like wear five articles of makeup at the so i learned to do makeup i became like an educational manager i was like rising up like my mom did at her i was like rising up and i didn't go to college and i was like getting responsibilities and then so you like to be the boss i like to get the most out of everything and i think sometimes especially in worlds like that where there's like you know steps yes i just like being the best at everything i'm doing and not against anyone else i'm not trying to be better than i'm just like how much more can i do yes you know that's why i probably think it's like school you're like there's nowhere to grow here there's nowhere to grow you're like what's past an a and and what what what i'm sorry i still i stand by that i'm like doing all of that oh my god yeah unless you know what you're doing and i just go to school i don't know i don't know if you believe that i don't know if you believe that when you say that i guess i'm just like i'm sorry i don't believe you're interested in it unless you're interested in it because yeah to absorb information you have to want to know that's true right to retain the information because you didn't do theater in high school no i did one play because during bad girl bad girl times i didn't i didn't submit like you're supposed to submit the the classes you want to take and i just didn't do it so they're my mom's phone ringing again they're like she didn't do this and so she had to come down to the principal's office and we had to like fill out a thing together and they were like she was like what's left and they're like theater and she was i was like no please don't make me and i did it and i remember i didn't even tell anyone and i was like in what was it called the emperor's new clothes is that what it's called i don't know you were there i remember you were scouting in the audience yeah yeah it's in the audience and i got the role of like the lead like remember go like floating down the aisle i came from the audience to the stage loved it then pretended and never happened i was like put that away that's crazy interesting yeah so loved it when you got it you were like stepping into it here we go so you're not so much introverted very extroverted very extroverted very loud but just yeah not knowing you could make money on it i guess yeah sure i mean you did you know anyone who was an actor or no yeah no and then you know you get to i i worked at sephora and then my my long time my like high school boyfriend who i love he's the best we broke up and i i became so depressed and there i was with money right an apartment i did the thing i i very quickly did the thing that like you're supposed to do you know and when i saw it didn't make me happy i was miserable and now i don't have this boyfriend and i just felt so sad and my mom was like what if you try you're funny what if you tried this thing because i'd made it to the top at sephora in the way that i could and like i just yeah i felt so unhappy and there was this quiet little voice in there that was like wanting something more but i didn't know what it was and so i felt awful about myself you're almost just like something's wrong with me like nothing's satisfying me and then my mom said that and then i i went you finally gained your people at groundlings yeah and for people that don't know who you know groundlings it's an improv and sketch group and uh hugely influential for so many people like incredible alum came out of there what were you doing for money when you were taking classes were you waiting tables makeup and working yeah in restaurants yeah i was doing weddings and and makeup jobs and i did like music videos or like just like i i did this i forget who the artist was they paid me like cold hard cash just like a thing of cash okay when i first got to la i mean it was just just whatever you just whatever i could do yeah when i first got to la i got a job at the church key it was like this american style dim sum place and i had to dress up as a pan am stewardess with a little hat a little outfit and heels and i once came in with flats and they were 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Like, even just down to, like, getting me my first real purse, you know? I have a fake shirt. Like, I love fashion and all that stuff, and they just, they're just the best, and like. They just taught me so much, and I meet with her, and she goes, you know, we're always looking for someone to do errands and all that stuff, and at the time, I didn't, you know, Diane Keaton, I knew her as the mom from Family Stone. Right. I did not watch Annie Hall. I had not seen The Godfather and all that. She made me watch those movies. She did. She said, you haven't seen Annie Hall? You're gonna go home, and you're gonna watch it, and tell me what you think. And I did, and I watched The Godfather, and she asked me what I thought. She was so incredible, and it was. It really did start as, like, a small job, just, like, come and, you know, help at this party, and I did, and I remember them sort of, like, chatting, like, what are we gonna do? And then she was like, well, what about, you know, her? Is she working? And so I did. I took on that job, and it started with the kids, and then it turned into, like, oh, well, can you run Diane's Instagram? And I was like, okay. And then that turned into, well, you gotta, you know, spend time with Diane. You guys gotta look at videos and make stuff for her Instagram, and then it just all snowballed and snowballed. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do this. Slowly, it became my whole life at a time. Like, reading scripts and working on projects, and we eventually sold a book together, and. Okay, so when you're running her Instagram, which was often in all caps. Yes. Was that her writing? Yes. Okay. Yes. She was like, make sure that's. In caps. Yelling at the audience. It's so funny, because it's so crazy how quickly it became my own, like, all right, yes, that's, like, it was normal. Yeah. She's so special. She is. Yeah. She's really one in a million. She's so original. Like, she had this thing that, how would you describe, how would you describe that thing she had? That's, like. Magic. Yeah. Yeah, it's freaky. It was so delightful and playful, and eccentric isn't really quite the right word. It was just, like, very, very original how she moved through life. She's very special. She just floated around like a butterfly. She's like a butterfly, and she really was, even working with her. She was like, oh, look at this. Like, she taught me to see the world around me, the shapes. As silly as that sounds, she'd go, look at the building. We'd stop. She'd pull over. Do you see this? My God, the tree. The way the light comes. She got me to, like, notice everything, as if I was with a child. It's so crazy. It was wonder, like a child that she kept into her 70s, and that's what's rare. It's not that she was any different than anybody else. She was just willing to stick with that and keep that wonder that goes away at some point, because it taught me that it was even going away in myself. She brought it back, and now I see those things. I stop, and I go, oh, my God, I love the way that that shape is, and, like, that's my daily life now because of her, and I see pictures, and I love images, and even making the book with her, like, you know, every page and every image, and, like, what's better, and why does this need to be black and white and not have color? Why do you like this contrast? It's, like, it's such a gift. It's crazy. It's like school. That's the school, right? That's the stuff that I'm going, holy shit, meaning everything. Wow, and what book did you make together? What was it about? Fashion First, because her and I have a love for collaging and pictures, and she got me into that, and we tried to sell a collage book that no one was interested in. I mean, I'm going, it's Diane Keaton. Everyone's like, you're crazy if you think we are making this book because no one's going to buy it, and just getting the rights for the images will be crazy because the mouth belongs to the book. It's like, oh, my God, I love this book. It's like, oh, someone else and the eyes, and we're going, make it happen, and she was so pissed that no one wanted to make this, but as I was doing research for that book, I went, oh, hold on now. Why don't you have a fashion book, and I showed her all of the images I brought. I came to work one day. I remember I was so nervous, and Stephanie kind of gave me the sign. She's like, show her this because Stephanie had been kind of trying to tell her for a long time to do this thing. I came with images because that's her language, and I was like, look at all of your outfits. Look at everything I've done. Look at, you know what I mean? When I showed her all of them, she went, okay, this is good, and we pitched it. She was like, okay, I am very stylish. That's when we showed Rizzoli, and that's when they were like, all right, we'll make this. Yeah. I couldn't believe she let me design it. She let me design the cover. She let me design the book. She let me do everything, and I went, but I've never made a book before, and she's like, you will figure it out. So cool. She had no doubt. Yes. It's weird. How amazing, Ashley. Amazing. I know. What a loss. She's so special, and she really cared about me. She would come to Groundlings shows when like, why were you there? I always said to her, I said, you shouldn't come to this, and I mean it, and she was like, I'm coming, and I'm going to wear a tutu and a big old hat, and I even said the first time she came, I said, please, you know, I just don't want you to get mobbed is what it was. I just felt like, ugh. I also kept the two very separate, right? Sure. You're being a struggling comedian, you know, and then I go to this icon's house. I was living a double life, and then when the two would come together, I remember she was like, I'll lay low. I'll lay low, and I was like, okay, great. I'm looking through the thing when she arrives, and she's in the biggest tutu, and biggest hat. Excuse me. Excuse me. Her tutu's getting on people. Excuse me. Excuse me. And every time she's laughing, yes! I mean, she really was a fairy godmother, and she dressed like a fairy godmother. She dressed like a fairy godmother. She was a fairy godmother, and I was just like, and everyone backstage, Diane Kingsley. I'm like, I know. She's here. So she helped you get the audition. She, like, she encouraged you to audition. She basically believed that you could do it, and therefore. She believed I could do it, but I will say, I mean, everyone believed in me, but nothing was happening, and so I was going to quit. Yeah, talk to me about that. You were just, you were thinking. I was tired. Yeah. It had been, I mean, like you said, you're like, you came into SNL kind of fully formed, but it's because I respect what people are doing online with the comedy. I'm not good at that, and so every time the opportunity came up, it was like, well, do something online. Do front-facing comedy. Do all that. I resisted the urge because, it just wasn't for me, and I went, well, if that's not for me, I kind of associated it with, well, then I guess I'm not willing to do the work, which wasn't true. I was always doing the work. I was doing live shows. Just who's in the audience? Not, you know, no one that can really make a career for you. No guffmans. There's no guffmans. Where's the guffman? We're waiting. So I, I just felt. I just felt tired, and I was like, fuck this. I, I, I decided I, I was more willing to decide to live my life. Yeah. I was like, I'm done. I'm done with the, will I get the, will I? I just made a book. I was like, there's other ways to make money and be creative. That's what she taught me, and I was like, I'm done. I'm just fucking done. I'll figure out something else. I just want to be happy, and, and that does not lie in waiting to see if this commercial is, is going to call me after pinning me. You know what I mean? Like, I was like, no, I'm just done, and that's when, you know, Naomi Odenkirk, who is. Yeah, Bob Odenkirk's wife, very famous manager. She is unreal. She, we went to breakfast, and she was like, what do you do? Like, what have you been doing? You're like, traveling with Diane. Like, what is your life? Like, and I'm like, I guess I just, I'm like, I don't know. Like, I'm just not doing it anymore, I guess. Like, I don't want to perform live anymore. I was losing that interest because it, I hit my, I hit the ceiling of what I could do. Right. I made Maine. I, like, did everything, and it was just like, all right, I guess this is, this, half this is done. I love performing, but this is no longer serving me to become a better person within myself. Yeah. I felt stunted. And then she said, well, let me try one more thing. And let's do this party of three show, which was me, Chris Kleckner and Alex Bonifer. She's like, we'll do your best stuff. Cause I didn't want to do it alone. And she was like, pick your friends. They're dear friends and we're always in each other's stuff. So we did a show and then that kind of caught some momentum. And then we were in Netflix as a joke. And then it was SNL wants you to showcase. And then I was like, okay. And they came to party of three and then they asked me to showcase after the show. So I performed, they just see me. And then I ran over to UCB Franklin and did it. What impressions did you do? Oh God. I know. I did Diane. I did Diane actually, because I was like, I don't do impressions. Who am I around the most? Diane. And she's so funny. I did her like voiceover. I did like her doing a voiceover for like planet earth where she's just yelling that they're hurting each other. Cause she's so hurting each other. She's just so funny. And that was an easy one. And then, oh my God, I don't even know what else I did. I I'm not good at impressions. And that's something that I've always been like, well, then I guess I'm not good for SNL. Isn't it funny? Because it's, I I'm not good at impressions either. And if it's like, it's a weird thing where someone's like, so just also, I guess it would be like, if you're a for a job and they're like, also just do a little bit of, um, painting, you know, and it's just, just also, you just have to do three paintings. You're my lawyer. I just need you to do three paintings. Just three. And you're like, okay, I'll do, I'll do the best I can at painting. And do it at the opening before you even go into your lawyering. Do the cold open. Do the paintings first before we talk about lawyering. And on your way to, um, doing the painting, walk past 40 people who are really good at painting. Really good at painting. Make sure you take a look. That makes me feel so much better because I, I made the mistake of thinking once I got the show that they were like, surely they're not going to ask me. I'm bad at it. No, they're going to ask you and they're going to ask you a lot. They're going to tell you. What have you done? What have you, what political impressions have you done on the show so far? We shouldn't call them impressions. We just shouldn't label it as an impression. Okay. Political characters. Who have you played? I did Kristi Noem. Oh yeah. Kristi Noem. That's right. I did Pam Bondi. Both of them. Both of them. I watched yours. I know. I know. I know. And then I did Caroline Leavitt. All of them just. Yeah. Not even scraping the surface of what. I watched you and Tina because I had, I did, you both did it. And then you had to go and do both of them. I had to go and do both of them. And just more iconic women, cooler women from the show did it. And then, and then me. And I was like, Oh my God. I was like, why are you guys making me do this? And I was like, can Amy come back? That was like when Forte had to do Bush after Will Ferrell left. Oh, Ferrell. It's so not fair. Okay. But did you bring any Groundlings characters to SNL? Oh yeah. I did. I did my haircut sketch. You did for your audition? Oh yeah. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. I did haircut. I did. God, I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. But she sort of changed because that's, what's been interesting is that I brought so much to the show, like came in, like, I've got all this stuff. And then you realize it's just such a different medium, even though they're both sketch. You got to be a little punchier. You need to like, well, it's funny you say that because so we do this thing in the show where we talk to somebody who knows our guests so we can talk well behind their back. And we talked to Andrew today. Andrew Dismutes. Oh, that's so sweet. He was in his hotel room. That is so sweet. Drinking black coffee. Drinking whiskey out of a bottle. He's doing bad. He's doing badly. Oh my God. Yeah. And he's very worried about it. So he asked you for some money. Yep. And it was really appropriate. Great. No, he had just done a show. He was, he was drinking black coffee in a hotel room and we were talking about you and he is so lovely and, and works so hard on that show and loves working with you. He's the best. And his question for you was what at Groundlings helps you prepare for SNL? Because we were kind of joking that like, in many ways it feels like a mini SNL camp there. Like people get really prepared, but you're saying that also it did and it didn't. What did it do to help you? To get ready for the show. And I mean, it forces you to write for yourself. If there is anything I could ever tell like young comedians, but also just like young women, because especially for myself, like, I mean, gosh, even Diane, I mean like the scripts she was getting versus what I knew she was capable of sometimes, like just like the writing for women sometimes bothers me in a way that I cannot. Let's talk about it for a second. What bothers you? Cause I, I know what you mean. It's like, I just feel like sometimes we're not as portrayed as complex. Yes. I was going to say aggressively because I'm like, we're just, we got shit going on. It's complex. It's deep. It's, it's so nuanced. It's like, I have so many things about me that I want to see on screen and, and in comedy. And, and, and I do wonder sometimes if, um, to get there, we just need to be a little more willing to write for ourselves. And that's, that's what Groundlings did for me was you do not get on that stage unless you are writing something for yourself. Yeah. I mean, you might be in some people's stuff maybe, but like, it's the same at SNL. It's like, you can write around all day for someone to write something for you, or you can just write it yourself. Right. And I feel that way with movies as well. Like, I'm so lucky to be now like getting to do movies, but I'm still writing. I am writing so much and I will never stop because I have to speak for myself. Right. And it just creates this confidence. And that's what it prepared me for was showing up and going, all right, none of these writers know who I am. Right. And nor should they, they've got their own shit. They have to write the cold, like they're doing stuff. They're busy. They're busy. They're writing for Amy Poehler. Like, it's like, they've got a host. They've got a host. They're not going, what is Ashley? Like, no. So then I went, all right, then I'm going to write. And then that's what makes people want to work with you is they're like, okay, she knows what she wants to do. And that's where it's, helping me make it more SNL, more for television. Yeah. It's got to be a little punchier. It's got to be choppy. It's got to like the cuts, camera cuts. And like, you can't do what you do at Groundlings where I can linger because there's no time constraint. It's like, we got to get to it. But you know, you have an interesting quality that's really awesome to watch, which is you do not rush and you take your time and you have great timing. And it's thrilling because we all know the like, just not a lot of time. And so the luxury of having a little bit of time, taking a little time, it's, it feels transgressive. And when it's done by somebody who knows what they're doing, it's really fun. It is my favorite thing to do. I will. It's like my, my, it's just so like, I remember even with the haircut sketch, there was a talk about cutting stuff. And the first thing to go is, you know, those pauses at the beginning. Well, let's just cut your entrance. Please let me have that. Because I need to say hi to the audience real quick in a way that's like, let me show you what I'm feeling. And then we'll get into it because I like watching people behave and to behave. It's not rushed to feel nervous or anxious or embarrassed. Being embarrassed takes a little time. It's like that feeling. It's just, I love it. And it like, and then now they're on your side. I hope because they're in on the joke with you. Yeah. You know, and then those other jokes pop. That's that like song that I like to play. It's like, it's just a bit of a dance. I like it. God, it's so true about behavior because we don't really often remember what sketches are about. Like the idea is like, what? I don't even remember the idea. Like someone's mad at someone about whatever. It's these like little human behavior moments that are so funny and weird. Yeah. You're so good at them. Thank you. That sketch, the, the, the, there's a sketch where you are surprised by your coworkers for your birthday and you fart. Yes. You fart. I couldn't believe that got on television. That was put on TV. That's right. It's on TV forever. Families is all that. You're moaning after we, like in terms of the, the real estate of the sketch, it takes up a lot of time. Oh yeah. Your reaction to like, what did I do? What just happened? How am I going to get through this is all conveyed in like a 20, maybe 25 seconds of moaning. And that was not really in rehearsal. That's where I want you to apologize to everyone is I, something took over there. And that's where the audience is like, I'm sure you felt this. I mean, it's why we love live is like, you can rehearse something all day until you're in front of a crowd and know what they are going to give you. They loved the fart. So I went. Yeah. Well, shit. Let's sit. Here we go here. Let's sit in the pain of this. I love arrogance. Oh my. What is funnier? Me too. What is funnier than someone being like happy guys? I farted. We guys wanted. I also played a character who was very cocky about the fact that she farted. I was like, she accused people of being jealous. There was a show called Rock of Love, which was like a dating show, and I played a one-legged character who farted when she jumped around. Okay, sure. And she was like, so I farted, jealous? She said jealous, and I'm almost like, no, we're not jealous. It is the epitome of why I want to do comedy for the rest of my life. I know, and it would be so fun to do, hopping around on one leg being like, because she considered herself a real catch. And you know what? That's all it takes. That's also my favorite is when someone's like, you want to fuck me? No! Want some of this? No! Totally, I love that. I want none of it. That is fantastic. You and Andrew work so well together. You and Andrew work so well together, by the way. He does this. He's what we're talking about. I mean, his stuff is grounded in realism. Like, he's like, but it's absurd. And he writes a lot for the show. That's all. He's got a very clear voice. Yeah. Yeah. And do you feel like starting, you started at the 50th year, was it weird? Yes. The 50th season, was it weird to start with, like, every person coming back all the time? I? And mind you, no one knew who I was. Like, like, Emile and Jane are so proactive with their careers that they had a following. They were coming in, you know, they had fans to watch them. People tuning in were going, who is this woman? What is she doing? And I was going, I don't know. I don't know. And then I would sit in my dressing room and I was like, oh, man, who hired me? Do they know I'm here? And then to the point where when I came back for this last season, I was sitting in my dressing room the whole first show. Not in a single thing. Oh, yeah. Okay. And then I did my sketch, last sketch of the show. Mm-hmm. And. Which is often the best one. It can be. It's sort of like a Hail Mary. It's like, yeah, there, there, I do, I did love that slot. And the more you get on the show, the less you get that slot sometimes, which I do, that slot is fun. Yeah. And I also want to talk to you about your haircut. Oh, okay. Okay. Because it's such a bold move to cut your hair. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. It's the middle of a season. I think they'd all say that, too. Did you have to get. We didn't say you could do that. Did you have to get permish? Like, I mean. It's unfair what I did to these. It's unfair. You begged for forgiveness. You did not ask for permission. You just did it. I went shorter than I said I was going. What's your relationship with Lorne? I just really, really admire him. Mm-hmm. I just think he's so smart. And I can't believe someone was put on this earth to give people like you and I. Like, I don't know if you think this, but like, being funny is so insane. Like, it's just like, what are you here for? I mean, like, you make us laugh. I don't know. Not to diminish it, but it's like, at the end of the day, it's like. Believe me. It's like, I mean, it's. It's so funny. I mean, there are really important jobs in the world. And then. We're like, jealous. I'll take my money now. Like. Totally. You're like. I mean, I. It's sick. Totally true. It's sick. We should be on the cop car waiting for our moms to pick us up. It is sick. What we do. It's sick. It's so true. It's not okay. And we treat it very. People treat it like it's very important. And it's. You cut the second fart? We can't cut the second fart. The second fart makes the third fart work on my desk by midnight. That's why when you watch shows about people making comedy, it makes me laugh so hard. Because it is so serious. Everybody's taking stuff seriously. That's what we love. But to go back to it's like Lorne found a way to give those people jobs. You gave us a place to work. Holy hell. But let me get back to your haircut. Haircut. Sorry. Long thing. But you cut your hair. Incredible. Looks incredible. Hey, thank you. Do you love having short hair? Oh, yeah. I've had it before. That's where the haircut sketch came from. Was me shaving it too short. And pretending I liked it and that it was what I meant to do. And I was like, this is a buzz. This is good. I'm kind of obsessed. The politics of hair. Like hair means something on the show. That's why I shaved it. I mean, originally. Really? Why? What do you mean? Because I don't like being shaved. I don't like being told what is feminine. Do you know what I mean? And there's something inherently like long hair. It's like, no. No. When do I feel the prettiest? Because people, whenever they meet me, your hair is so beautiful. It's so long. It's like, I don't really want that to be the first thing you think of. It was like, I like to be open and fresh and like vulnerable. It makes me feel vulnerable because I can't hide. And like, I like feeling open. And like, you can see my face and I was, I was wearing so many wigs and yeah, it just feels a little like, I don't know, dominant, like not dominant. It's like, well, you have an interesting play with mask and femme stuff and the way you dress too. And Diane, of course, is like, that kind of like, what is your relationship to like, what is typically masculine or typically feminine? Would you, do you like to play around with that? Yes. And it's crazy how much of an influence Diane was on that because making the fashion book, we have a photo together where we're wearing the same. We're wearing the same exact outfit because I showed up to work dressed like her, not even realizing it. And we took a picture. And when I went into her office the next day, it was framed. She printed it out and framed it. And it's this image. I'm like, holy shit. You taught me that like, I don't have to be in this world for a man's approval, which is something I think I was doing for a long time. And that's, that's so sad to say it out loud, but it's just the truth. I don't know if it's the, you know. Well, welcome to the father issues. I mean, like. Right, right. Patriarchy. Right. And I was always like, oh my God, vulnerable to take my makeup off and like. Yes, yes. Have my hair done and be hot. Yes. So what? To, by the way, for who? For who? To who? To who? And for how long? For how long? For how long? Because mama, tie, tie. I have to go to bed, bed. Tie, tie, done, done. Seriously. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck off. Seriously, fuck off. And this is me that, fuck you. I'm done. And hotter than ever though, Ashley. Okay, honey. Hotter. I mean, it looks incredible. Okay. Thank you. It's funny because I feel hotter. Yeah. Because I'm myself. I mean, I told Jodi. Jodi was like. Jodi Mancuso, who runs the SNL hair department. The best. Who Bronx Beat is basically. Based on. Sweater weather. Yeah. And I said to her, she was like, your hair's so pretty. And she's the best. I mean, she was so supportive. And she was like, you know, she didn't know what I looked like with short hair. Sure. So she's going, what are you talking about? You want to chop all your hair off? Yeah. And I'm like, I finally got so dramatic. This is what's funny, right? I went, my soul says I have to do this. She's probably like, just do it, idiot. God, stop texting me. I was like, please. She was like, do it. Do it. And I feel amazing. Because it's also the thing you're saying, maybe, with the challenge. It's like permission. It was the permission part, too. Yeah. I think it's really interesting. And I think it's very cool. Thank you. It just goes to show. Liberating. Liberating. And also just getting back to the initial theme of you is that you have a, you're self-possessed in a way that's very inviting. It doesn't feel like you're an island and no one can know you or interact with you. That's nice to know that. It's really, really. But. But. There's just something about you that feels like you kind of have a sense of who you are and what you like. And you write that way. You perform that way. And it's really intoxicating to be around. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. And so we're going to end with impressions. Down, down. To camera? No. Wait. To camera? To 10 impressions. How many do you want? But you know what we used to do? We used to play a game. We used to play a game where you had to do an impression of somebody. Why are you doing this to me? In 10 seconds or you die. You're going to kill me legally? So. Is that the paperwork I signed on the way in? Yep. So you will give each other someone to do. Are you serious? Yes. And you have to do it. It does not have to be good. Only a five second impersonation. You said 10. Oh, I said 10. Okay. You changed it when you really tried to do it too. You're like five. You know what? Five. Okay. Okay. Okay. Five second impersonation. And I'll just throw out a name and then you can throw it out for me. It's really fun. It's really fun. Okay. Okay. Okay. Let me think. Okay. Ready? You can't think about it. You just have to go. It doesn't matter. Sure. Austin Butler. Whoa. Here we go. We got him. We got him. Whoa. That's true. Aye. Are we thinking of this? Whoa. Should I bring him to the show? Should I do it? Should I bring it to season three? Okay. Give me one. Season three. I called it because it's my season three. It is your season three. Oh, 53. That was disrespectful. 53. Um, Joan Cusack. Oh, hey, you guys. oh okay okay ready don't think we're just doing voices here we go one two three ready shakira okay all right give me one um i'm gonna die you have to give me one 10 seconds uh yeah you're gonna get into outhouse doghouse hen house every outhouse you better check every outhouse doghouse hen house around here you gotta catch the guy we're looking for the fugitive that was him this isn't even funny anymore so you do do impressions you did this to embarrass me avanka trump go what literally the fact that i'm getting fired from the show i'm on after this she can't do impressions what what is that what what okay oh my god fuck that was good there were those who were really good thank you you know who i think you could do well though is laura linney i get that a lot you have you sound a lot like laura linney i get that a lot and i watch videos of her because people have said that yeah she's amazing she she is i mean she she's so like she's so great let's do laura linney impersonation you could do it this one oh well now i can't do it i just do again okay let's let's have laura linney impersonation talking about um god i just watched a video of her of uh about her um drink like she just she just had some delicious coffee i mean it just went delicious oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh this coffee is so delicious oh oh god that was for you larleny we love you we love you oh my god oh my god oh my god you made me cry okay oh i have to ask you one more question what are you listening to these days watching reading what do you do to like space out check out laugh i'm always taking suggestions from people is there a video that you frequent i am so big on like survivalist shows like like to the point where me and allison gates yes we write a lot together head writer at snl she's amazing we work outside of the show together as well and we were on a zoom the other day supposed to be working fully supposed to be working and we set that aside to have a vulnerable conversation about do we and talk to talk to our teams and like really lay out the game plan of if we want to go on survivor together we are so serious about it in a scary way that we need to stop talking about it because both of us want it so we watch these shows and there is one that i just got put on to called extraction have you heard of this i think i might have heard of it but not really tell me more i'm gonna put you in the scenario i and it's coming into frame you in your head pick two people that you that you trust in love okay got it now picture that they're in a headquarters you amy poehler are put in the wilderness okay they can see you on screen you can talk to them and say i need food and water but you're fighting other families they're fighting other families in the headquarters to get you what you need because their loved one is out in the wilderness too okay so they're doing their own game and you're going i need food and water and you're going i need food and water and you're going i need water and they're like we're trying they can't talk to you only you can talk to them so you're going every time you get a box and there's nothing in it you don't know that they just played a game in headquarters where they can't get you water so you're like and then you go i want to be extracted and they can decide if they want to pull you out or not or not they can leave you please go on it with me um it takes four months of our life okay i have a couple questions about this yes it feels like you could just set rules before which is like they do like so then they start crying and go i know i said that when i said i wanted to be extracted to to wait two days but please please get me out and then the family goes no no she said to wait two days and that was the conversation me and allison were having i was like do you want me to extract you and i was literally dead so you're like i don't know whoa it's a fucking you have to watch it two seasons and it's where is it on it's on oh it's i think i watched there's also a movie called extraction by chris hemsworth don't i mean watch that too if you want i haven't seen it extraction tv show yes extracted extracted extracted okay let's just look at um i just want to look at a clip of it god it's so good i have not had any food in six days i should have applied for the floor rob low wouldn't do this to me your objective is to choose which survivalists receive crucial supplies oh some don't get supplies some are without fire for weeks oh begging to go home my child has not had fire right because that's another thing too it's a lot of mothers so they're like my child my child and he's a sleeping bag ma'am your child's 35 yes that is a good point they're all in their 40s ma'am ma'am ma'am oh and then they have a oh this is satisfying they have a giant button a giant extract button and they have to go hit it in front of everyone it's fair ashley you're amazing thank you for doing this this was so fun you're the best i see why people laugh so good impressions so funny you're so funny you're so good at it you were so good at impressions we are so good thank you so much ashley that was so fun and so funny and it's just a joy to talk to you and get to know you more and um you know ashley talked a lot about one of her mentors diane keaton her fairy godmother and i just feel for this polar plunge i want to remind us all of some of the many great films that diane made check out marvin's room if you haven't seen that it's so good and meryl streep is in it and a young leonardo dicaprio and it's such good acting uh reds an incredible movie with warren baity it's beautiful performance uh from diane um crimes of the heart sissy spacek jessica lang i mean just diane we miss you thank you ashley for that fun talk thank you so much for listening today and we'll see you soon you've been listening to good hang the executive producers for this show are bill simmons jenna 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