Are Both NY Teams Actually Good?! Plus: Belichick's UNC Drama & Week 1 Overreactions (Feat. Gregg Rosenthal)

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So if he's better than him, if he's better than Emmitt Smith, then he's better than Marshall Falk, and he's better than the other name you threw out there that I've missed right there. LaDainian Tomlinson's better. LaDainian Tomlinson? He's better than LaDainian Tomlinson. No, no. Tomlinson is on another planet to me. Because just the. He could break your tackles. He could be the best power running back in the league, and he's still the best receiving back in the league. So you got Barry, you got Tomlinson, you got Marshall Falk. But you're right. But you're saying those guys are better than Emmitt Smith. I am, yes. So, where are we 60 minutes into this season? The Jets and the Giants are both actually good? And what about that vaunted Texans defense? 36 points, I know it was against Josh Allen, but still, and speaking of the Bills, what's going on with Bill Belichick down in UNC? His old team, the Patriots, ain't doing that great themselves. We'll see if they can update things in Foxborough against the Pecksburg Steelers. Then there's the sleep drafts. Drunk Rams, the power outages of the Chargers offense. But again, slow down, everybody. We're just 60 minutes into this thing. Our pal, 10-Day Tony, is here along with the great Greg Rosenthal to make some sense of this mess. Let's start the show. Yes, hi and hello, my fellow football Americans. Welcome to NFL Week 2. Welcome to Football America, presented as ever by our pals over at DraftKings Sports, now in all 50 states. Go tell your mom, go tell your pals, subscribe, comment, feel. It's episode number 83. We have a lot to get to here. Hello to Buddy Badowski and Gino Fuentes. Do we have any answers for who wore the number 83 best in NFL history? Well, we've got our. We can draw a lot of degrees of separation here to the Miami Dolphins. We get to start with Andre Reid, the Hall of Fame Bills receiver, who was one of the main cogs in that team going to the Super Bowl four times. But then it's Ted Hendricks, who went to school at the University of Miami. Then we got Mark Clayton, started, wide receiver with Dan Marino. Then we got Wes Welker, started with the Miami Dolphins. It's weird that Mark Clayton's not in the Hall of Fame. The numbers don't bear out. I think neither of those guys are, right? Mark Clayton or Mark Duper are not in the Hall of Fame. I take Clayton over Duper all the time. But what about Gino? You didn't mention Louie Lips. Louie Lips? Number 83, the mid-80s Steelers star. Number 83, very quickly, because I promised I would do it. Wes Welker is another one of them? The 83 draft is the most iconic of them all. Happy birthday this week to my guy, Danny Marino. Many moons ago at Pitt, he was the best quarterback in the nation, a Heisman finalist going into his senior year. And my old man was the Pitt doctor. And one time at camp, one of the trainers said, like, hey. Hey, Marino's roommate isn't feeling so well. Can you check on him up in his dorm room? This is during summer camp in advance of the season. So me and the old man went up there to the dorm room and knocked on the door like, Dr. Damoshek, you know, hold on a sec, doc, hold on. You're here behind the door, dorm room, scrambling around and all that sort of thing. And, like, what could be going on in the dorm room? It's the size of a shoebox. And eventually the door finally opens up, and there is Marino on one bed, there's his roommate on the other, and two girls. And also, the room is filled with smoke, like a van opening up and dazed and confused or something. And we go from there. I'd never seen this kind or smelled this kind of smoke before. Jump to springtime before that 83 draft. A lot of NFL teams were calling our house, saying, what's the story on Dan Marino? Are the rumors true about all that? My old man didn't spill. He didn't say a word about it. Oh, what a goat. He was loyal to the end. What a goat. Black and gold over red, white, and blue. All the rest of it. And now, speaking of red, white, and blue, let's talk about the New England Patriots and their upcoming matchup with our guy, Greg Rosenthal. Delivered by Little Caesars, the official pizza sponsor of the NFL. Right now, score two faves just for you with Detroit-style slices and sticks. It's the biggest duo since Monday nights in football. Two pieces of Detroit-style deep dish pepperoni pizza and four pieces of Italian cheese bread and crazy sauce for just $4.99. Only at Little Caesars. Make your game day delicious with Little Caesars. Officially delicious. You might be able to guess it by looking at me. I'm not a huge gym guy. So I was pretty hesitant about creatine. But I learned that it isn't just for workouts. 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You're a man of a certain style. Everybody who's watching us right now can see that. I'm not over the moon about the green and teal that everybody else has. Oh, you're crazy. Go check out the Mardi Gras uniforms we broke out last week. That is the best. Uniform in college football. They've got some good ones. Hey, another question quickly before we jump into the pigskin. We were talking, why the third G in your name? It just finishes it off. It gives me a rap name. I'm 60% G, but they didn't like Gregory. The real answer is Gregory Rosenthal. They thought too many letters when you're filling it out, too many syllables, just end it with a strong third G. But it's one of those names that now you've spent probably like, it's only been like three or four seconds each time. But when you add up those four seconds over the course of a lifetime, you've probably lost out on like a half hour of your existence. Explaining to people, no, it's two Gs. What do you mean? Like, yeah, I did. G-R-E-G. No, no. Like, so three Gs, two at the back end. Like, that explanation is heavy, no? And having correct people that call me Gregory. You're absolutely right. And it's not a good name. I never liked it anyways. Nobody names their kid Gregory. anymore. It is a name that is completely dead. It is not in like the top 100 000 names anymore it's a cute name for a baby i guess little greggy but and i was also thinking about neil neil is one of those names it's the name of the week that is terrible for both the baby and a grown man nobody should be named neil at any stage of life right i'm trying to think of any meals i like most most gregs i know too are kind of jerks i'm trying to represent for them but it just is a jerkish name i feel and well now see i'm trying to see if i can popovich is a good one he represents greg yeah he's nice all right hey speaking of coaches who have uh you know proven to be a little salty here and there bill belichick i i'm sure you saw the photo that's going around of him at unc that's the least of his troubles or maybe it's his greatest virtue right now is how chesty he is oh he's so bosomy what what the hell is going on there they're remaking fight club with him in the meatloaf role um this is what makes you special damage check that everyone's thinking it looking at that picture and you're the only one that does a social media post about it hey um yeah legitimately is the unc experience now his son has resigned for what appear to be some some really uh dark reasons lombardi's long gone the the team is mediocre all that is this fall from grace is this as bad as it's been for a legend since like bob knight is that the comp i don't think it's as as bad as bob knight it's because i think his son is is potentially is allegedly or it's rumored to be like giving drugs to the players that isn't as bad i don't want to get in trouble here what do you think happened there i mean was he smoking weed with some players that seems like that was what was happening who knows either way oh well if that's it then i then i don't want to be up on mount pie i don't really know but okay i think it does call into question some of the character concerns you know i think there's some there's a lot to be said about that and there's a lot to be said about that and there's a lot to be said about that and there's a lot to be said about that and there's a lot to be said about that and there's a lot to be said about that and there's a lot to be said about that and there's a lot to be said about that and there's a lot to be said about that and there's a lot to be said about that and there's a lot to be said about that and there's a lot to be said about that and there's a lot to be said about that and there's a lot to be said about that and the new england patriots at oh and one and then there are the pittsburgh steelers yeah i'm offended for the steelers and i'm not trying to be biased but the opening number was four and a half and a.j brown ain't playing what gives here i'm confused we do a pick show at nfl daily pittsburgh plus five and a half is going to be one of my three picks you know you're getting this first even though it's against my team which i hate to do it makes zero sense to me to me they occupy a very similar place in the ns nfl ecosphere and i would have said that going into week one and week one only made me feel stronger about that that they are teams that are hoping to get to the playoffs so i don't get five and a half yeah the the other side of that coin is that pro football players have an understanding of you know how the season flows certainly their head coach does and going into an o2 hole in a division that includes the bills coming off of what i think was borderline i the number was the number but still leaving houston and not just leaving houston with a win but how i mean what the hell happened to that texans defense which by the way is a great example of don't overreact to what happened in week one do you think the giants and jets are both durably good this season do you think that that texans defense is uh overrated based on week one slow your roll we need more evidence than just the 60 minutes that we've had as far as that goes i maybe i'm consumed by um the aaron rogers experience a week in here but i really did find his performance against the falcons to be sort of a rorschach game you know we talked a lot in the preseason about rorschach teams in 2026 um a lot of people initially saying boy that was a stinker he is the limiting factor that we thought he would be for this team and then over the ensuing 72 hours it became like look a little bit closer i don't think you know what you're looking at if you don't understand that rogers was actually very good the guy perpetuating that conversation primarily is one aaron rogers how say you i'm somewhere in the middle both of us have kind of planted our flags that rogers is going to hold this team back i think he showed a few signs that he could be better than last year which is what i was hoping for i think the offensive coordinator will help him i think the offense helps him and maybe they get him to do some things he doesn't want to do like hang in the pocket throw a few more deep balls throw a few passes over the middle if you squint check you saw three or four pretty good examples of that the problem i don't get is he's just not that accurate anymore he had some throws that were there that he just missed and when you think aaron rogers that's what you think plus being able to make plays on the move which he's better than most guys his age but he's not great at it anymore so if he's not consistently accurate he's still going to be very erratic snap to snap week to week him and dk mecca after me are an incredibly erratic combination you um few ways to go off of that but first of all the thing i do have to say about rogers compared to his old man qb peer group of the 21st century namely brady payton roethlisberger breeze i mean if you're measuring rogers of 26 versus rogers of 16 he's uh you know obviously a pale version of that but man moves pretty well in the pocket otherwise compared to those other guys we're all just stiffs back there completely above the neck kind of experience he actually is a little bit nimble but to your other point um about staying in the pocket it seems maybe simplistic but seems pretty clear watching what we just saw there against the falcons when he's in the pocket whether he wants to be or not that's the issue right he is the tail wagging the dog with mccarthy mccarthy announces this is what aaron and i have cooked up for this week and he just blatantly says it that we're doing what aaron wants to do but what aaron wants to do is is long gone in reality right i mean he has to stay in the pocket because when he does he still can throw some strikes back there and that the arm was never the issue i just think when he's on the move he can't get away with that stuff anymore that's when he gets wildly inaccurate and he'll hit one or two plays like like the touchdown that he had the first one of the game like he moves outside the pockets in the red zone you love to see that but he tried plays like that three or four times the reason why i'm a little higher on it maybe than you or at least then compared to last year it was such a low floor the play was over the second there was any pressure in his face and he was statistically pretty bad with pressure in his face in this game but he got a couple penalties and at least he tried a few and i liked seeing the the average depth of targets down the field they're they're trying to mix things up i think the steelers like i've been saying it all off season if they had cj strout who i like i'm trying to think of a more agreed upon quarterback just an average mid-level quarterback i think that's this is a good team and i think they showed some of it last week how about this because i try to sell validate out of vanity at least i mean i advocated before the 25 draft eric harman may or may not turn turn out to be great but it's not the defensive tackle league it's the qb league and the steelers put themselves in a spot where they had to take some wild swings was i right now 17 games plus one in that they should have taken jackson dart oh yeah just to have another option i'm always for continuing to take quarterbacks take swings until you find i mean tyler shuck in the second half of of last week's game and over for him too i just knew they weren't going to take him he looked like i don't know who he looked like a mix between carson palmer and like he was incredible and young aaron rogers at late in that game so yes they should have and i can tell you i'm sorry to the steelers fans derrick harman's not going to be great he's he's fine he's that's a bummer and i i do say it all the time greg rosenthal is one of the rare people who talks into a microphone not just uh flailing about pretentiously he watches every second of every game and the people out there rosenthal uh spelled with two g's um is uh i think the public would be stunned by how many people don't watch a whole lot of football and yet they opine about it and we we pivot off of their um their opinions on that as far as that goes though one game in drake may how disconcerting was that performance up in seattle maybe i am biased that i'm not that worried that i thought he played a relatively composed game that made sense through three quarters the problem is i think there's a book out on him and the steelers are as talented defensively up front as anyone so it's a really tough matchup in terms of their offensive line for the patriots but the book i think that's out on him and the steelers basically did it last week is just just play safe just just make him beat you with singles and five yard thing and he's gonna get impatient and he's gonna get stupid in the end and he's gonna get stupid and the end and he's gonna get reckless and it's pretty much worked and maybe change up the picture from pre to post snap because he makes a lot of rookie errors where he he thinks he sees something and he's so confident he just goes for it that's a young quarterback thing but i think the steelers are particularly well positioned to kind of go with that strategy well we were texting this week and um about the uh about the matchup and you know my takeaway is that the steelers defense is officially loaded up and you know if they could inject uh um joey porter jr into the mix and i don't want to get detoured with a conversation about omar khan's potential failures here um on the outside both with a shutdown corner and jpj jr i mean if he ain't a scheme fit for your I hate when teams do this. Like, well, we don't know if he's a scheme fit for what the current D.C. wants to do. Like, yeah, in success, Patrick Graham's going to leave in a year or two. So not signing a guy because he ain't a great scheme fit for right now is crazy. But that notwithstanding, this defense has a chance to be a difference-making unit. And I do think without A.J. Brown, I guess that basically would be the answer to the question, why would the Steelers win this game this week? Yeah, that they'll get after it up front. The Patriots gave Elijah Vera Tucker from the Jets a ton of money. He had a rough week one. They have a young player at center. Like, you can get after them. And then the thing that really intrigued me about the Steelers, and I do think the secondary has questions, them playing Nick Herbig at linebacker out of nowhere, nobody expected that. Suddenly he's on the field. Peyton Wilson's back there. He looked like a brand-new player. And it does make you wonder. And T.J. Watt, they're going to keep him fresher. They're rotating like people wanted to say he looked good. At the end of last week's game, I think they're going to take a lot of Mike Tomlin's players and make them look better this year. I have some concerns in the secondary. Are the Patriots the team to take advantage of it? I don't know. But that front seven is dynamite. It's one of the very best, if not the best, in the league. Speaking of staying fresh and all that at a late age, Derrick Henry is now, it sort of hit me, I should have hit me in the offseason, that Derrick Henry is now officially the best big back, as one might describe that category, in the Super Bowl era. He transcends Zonka and Jerome Bettis and anyone else you might say. At age 32, where does he rank for you? We've had some football Americans, the younger ones, don't blame them, Greg Rosenthal, now have Derrick Henry as a top five running back in the Super Bowl era. How say you? Name names, you know? I'm going to name names at the very end of this show. That's my promise to you. Oh, I'm saying who did it? No, I saw Teron Armstead, who's a great. young analyst, I mean, young compared to us, former Saint, I've heard him be great. And he made that case. It's interesting to think about. If you're going history, it's before we were watching each and every week, Walter Payton and Jim Brown and OJ, you know, there's a lot of them. So top five is ridiculous. But if we're going top five that I've watched, he's getting closer and closer because he's so unique. But was he better than Marshall Falk? No way. Like, was he better than LaDainian Tomlinson? No way. Here's the, here's a good place. To put your marker down, in my opinion. Is he better than Emmitt Smith? Or as good? Yeah, I think so. That's where I. So if he's better than Emmitt Smith, then he's better than Marshall Falk. And he's better than the other name you threw out there that I've missed right there. LaDainian Tomlinson, he's better than LaDainian Tomlinson. No, no, Tomlinson is on another planet to me. Because just the. He could be the best power running back in the league. And he's still the best receiving back in the league. But you're right. I'm just. I am, yes. How about Adrian Peterson? Is he as good as Adrian Peterson? No. I'm saying Adrian Peterson is better. But those are. That's a good comp. Because I think they're a little more just, you know, not one-dimensional, but just pure running ability, him and Derrick Henry. But yes, I would go Adrian Peterson. Greg, if you're looking for the guys that did this, it's me and Tony. We're right here. We both agree that Derrick Henry is a top five running back of the Super Bowl era. No, Mike Ryan also is. Mike Ryan. Well, Mike Ryan was in here. Yeah, he's not here now. But he was in here and said that he's already better than Emmitt Smith, which I don't know if I'm ready to go there. We have Emmitt Smith in different tiers, clearly. But, I mean, granted, I'm very young. So I, you know, don't really know for sure. But just based off what I know. I love people who weigh in. Yeah, but do you see what jacket I'm wearing here, Dave? Do you see what jacket I'm wearing here? Obviously, I'm going to be partial to Emmitt Smith as the greatest running back of all time. Touche. Greg, I've been heartened by the return of running backs' relevance. And I'm curious, I mean, for real, in the last couple of years, it's hard to argue against that now, that they're more important to offensive schemes across pro football than they were five years ago. You know, a lot of hand-wringing, I assume, in Patriots country right now because A.J. Brown is immediately down in Pittsburgh. A lot of hand-wringing about, man, D.K. Metcalf and Michael Pittman don't add up to a one. They're both twos and all of that. I have long made the argument in this century that it is an overrated position. Where do you rate, at least as a number one, that you have to have a defined number one game-breaker difference? There are a lot of teams that have won Super Bowls without having that. The Chiefs really changed that with Tyreek Hill. He was the first high-end wide receiver this century, believe it or not. Randy Moss and Terrell Owens and Antonio Brown and all those guys. Then there's Cooper Cup and all that. Anyway, give me your ranking. I'm curious. QB1, what are the rankings two through five in your head? Well, it's tricky because I agree with your overall point about the receivers, but I think your receiver group is more important than your running back. You know what I mean? I think what Kyle Shanahan and McVay have helped to teach the rest of the NFL, I always think about that 2016 Falcons team, which was four deep. And you don't think of who was it? Gabriel as their fourth receiver and like beyond Julio. But they had four guys you had to worry about. And that's what's shown to be important. But to rank the positions in importance? Okay. I still, any defense offense you're saying too? Whatever you want. Yes, if you are Daniel, well, not Daniel Jeremiah. He's not a GM. But, you know, if you're a draft whiz. I mean, supposedly he had offers. There were rumors, you know, there was reports, reporting back in the day, he had offers to get into front offices and then suddenly he gets a good contract. What kind of weirdo would take that job instead of getting to do what DJ gets to do? I just think it's crazy when coaches go back into color. Mike Tomlin, everybody's swooning. And I do think he's a little bit better coming out of the gate than I anticipated him being. But and people are resentful like, oh, now he's in a good mood. Yeah, now he's in a good mood. Of course, he's in a good mood. There are no stakes to what he's doing. We're just talking about it. Why would you want that pressure, sort of Damocles or Damoshek hanging over your head all the time like that? This might be my last year if we don't turn it around. Any who go ahead, rank them right. Plus, I think they were giving him like the assistant job. You're right. You get to see your children. It's much better. I think you got to go edge on defense. That's the second most important position you can have. OK, yeah, I think so. Because you're talking individual players. I think an edge can change. I agree so much for you. If you're talking individual players, then I'm going to be like the average GM. I'm going to go offensive tackle now. It doesn't. It doesn't really matter if it's left or right like Joe. All set right tackle. Who cares? You know, ushered in this era, I think, or at least was the first one talking about it. Daniel Jeremiah and I were yapping on my old show about exactly this. I'm like, why wouldn't you if you're the coach? Why wouldn't you? Or if you're the quarterback, more importantly, more viscerally, wouldn't you want to see the guy who's chasing you, coming at you versus the blind side? I know it lets you play free or if you don't know, what you don't know, doesn't hurt you. But in football, it does. Like what they Lawrence Taylor hitting you from behind without you seeing him coming is going to hurt when you rather, though, see the pressure to know how to adjust to it. It makes sense. And when you see where the best pass rushers in the league like Max Crosby are lining up there on the right side half the time or a lot of them even more. So, yeah, I would go tackle because it's just so impossible to find tackles. Then I would go receiver. But I'm with you. It's more. It's more about having multiple receivers. This is where it gets tricky. Man, cornerback is so up and down. Maybe cornerback is the position I would say is slightly overrated linebacker. If you can find the linebacker, it's so hard. Do you know what an advantage that the forty niners and the Eagles have to have? Fred Warner and Zach Bond, they are the most underpaid position right now. So then I go cornerback, then I go tight end. That's kind of about the group. And they feel like they're coming up in terms of. Yeah, that's in terms of value right now. You need the. The group. And then it's our our our poor running backs and safeties at the end since your guards were ahead of those three positions, by the way. You get free. You get free access, I believe, still to SoFi Stadium. And so you can go and watch the Rams if you so choose. And then there is in the Big Apple, the weirdest of stories that the third. So wait in New York, the most popular teams are Yankees, one Knickerbockers with a bullet at number two or maybe the Knickerbockers. I would say the next one now. Yeah. Especially after the championship in the Giants three, then the Mets, then the Rags, then the Jets. But anyway, so those teams are relevant now. Does it all come apart once we go from 60 minutes of evidence to 120 specifically in SoFi Rams, laying seven against the Giants house? I thought you were going to say Chargers with the Raiders and invading. So far, that's got to be fun that no, I don't think it all falls apart. I think the Giants are a good sneaky. They could raise the floor. I think they're a 10, 10 games type of team because I think their offensive line, defensive line are good. But I am far from like getting off the Rams train, especially on offense. Their offense is going to be awesome. It is a tough matchup against the Rams, a Giants defensive front, but I do not think that they're going to have that many problems with the Giants. I'm going to say it until the season is over. I think probably you do have to put the asterisk asterisk next to that Rams offense. If Puka Nakua gets hurt, he is the Jenga piece of 2026. I mean, what? What would they do? I mean, really, what would they do? Vontae Adams ain't the answer, I can assure you of that. Anyway, the answers you seek on all matters pro football are ready to be answered by one Greg with three Gs, Rosenthal, plus Jordan Rodrigue and the rest of the gang. Jordan is the best. Her energy, her unironic love of football is great. Not as great as her giving me shout-outs on NFL Daily, but make sure you're checking out NFL Daily or what are you doing with yourself? Thanks, Greg. Thanks, Shaq, you're the best. I don't know the last time I called you Greg. It's not a good name. Not Gregory. There he goes, everybody. Three Gs. I'm not a huge gym guy, so I was pretty hesitant about creatine, but I learned that it isn't just for workouts. Since taking it, I've noticed an increase in strength, power, recovery, and even cognitive performance. Which we could all use a little more of. And I know what you're thinking. 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And I hope you younger football Americans just learned a lesson about, you know, prisoner of the moment kind of crap with, uh, Eric. He's very good. Prisoner of the moment. He's been having an all-of-fame career for 10 years now. All right. You just said Emmett Smith ahead of LaDainian Tomlinson. You have to pipe down now. All right, here we go. Here's what we're going to do, fellas. It's time now to dig in on the week two matchups or more of picking up on where Rosenthal and I just left off with this edition of Stress-Free Sunday delivered by Little Caesars, the official pizza sponsor of the NFL. Right now, you can score two of your faves with Detroit-style slices and sticks for just $4.99, only at Little Caesars. Fellas, I think what we're looking for is the team or teams who we reckon will have the breeziest Sunday. And I encourage you to remember this is not college. All the teams in pro football are good, except for the Dolphins. And probably the Browns, too. But long story short, the team you're most confident is going to win this week. This will be helpful for survival pools and beyond. Let me show you what I mean. I'm going with, I know this isn't the most obvious one, I'm going with the Dallas Cowboys playing against the Washington Commies, laying four and a half. I suspect this number is so low because the Cowboys didn't look great against the Giants. Washington probably looked a little bit better than people expected. That leads you to a number of four and a half. I think the Cowboys win with the greatest of ease. Who's next? Tony, you go. I'm going to take a bounce-back spot for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, a get-right spot against the Cleveland Browns. I know they're laying a lot of points at eight and a half. I just don't know how in the hell the Browns are going to score with what they got going on on offense at quarterback. Because they're going to show Baker what he's missed out on, all the good times he's missed out on since he left, right? Exactly right. We got KC Concepcion and Denzel Boston. See that? Concepcion. All right, the caballo gets what we're doing here. Does Buddy. Yes, I do, Dave. And just on the Browns real quick, you mentioned there are two teams we know are bad, the Dolphins and the Browns. I think the Browns are going to be worse than the Dolphins. But that's just me. Stress-free win of the week. I don't think that's true. I don't think that that's ultimately. I think I lean a little bit more with Dave here. Yeah? Well, I don't know, man. The thing is, the vibes are just. I mean, the vibes in Miami, if you're a fan, are rotten, obviously. You know what your team is going to be this year. But there's some hope. There's some. There's a plan here. I have no idea what Cleveland is doing in any way. So we'll see. All right, they're both on the Don't Matter horn. They're both on the Don't Matter horn. Why are we even talking about them? Yeah, so stress-free win of the week. I'm going to rock with the Panthers. Minus two and a half at the Falcons. I thought Bryce Young actually. He got overshadowed, obviously, because Caleb Williams looked like the MVP last weekend. I thought he was really good in week one, and he showed a lot of the continuation of growth that we saw from him last year. The Falcons are probably starting Cooper Rush again. That's all. You really need to know. They looked devoid of anything last week. Kyle Pitts didn't have a catch. And you want to talk about rotten vibes. There are rotten vibes in Atlanta right now. This fan base is distraught over what's going on at quarterback. They can't figure anything out there. Give me the Panthers. I do think it's wild. Like, if you know, you had a sense it was going to be the case, but you get a game. If you're a Falcons fan, they have to win this week, or you know the season is lost before it barely even got going there. That's a bummer for those teams, but I'm with you on the Panthers taking care of business. That was weird to give up 59 in week one. Gino, bring it on home here. All right. Well, the Dolphins, I got a good look at them last week. They are paper thin. They've got a list of starters. The starters may or may not be any good, but then it's a bunch of guys on the minimum. And any time a starter goes out, you got an immediate hole on the Dolphins. And I just watched the San Francisco 49ers handle the Rams. It was in another country. Whatever. 13 and a half. I don't think it's enough. It doesn't matter because you're just picking a winner here. Wow. I think the 49ers are going to just. They're going to have their backups in by the start of the fourth quarter. 13 and a half is such a rare number. Sorry, Dave, but in this case, like the Dolphins lost by 14 through the Raiders last week. I do want your. I'm glad you said that, buddy, because that's what I was getting to is that in pro football, double digit spreads. If you go through it, tend to not end up covering. So beware. That's a heavy number. Then again, it's a Super Bowl XIX rematch, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Niners win by at least 19 points here. All right, let's move on to some more games. It's time for DraftKings Sports Picks, Picks, Picks. One favorite against the spread. One over-under. One underdog. And to our collective everlasting disgrace, Buddy Badowski is in the lead. But it's not everlasting. You're damn right. By Sunday night, I suspect things will be right as rain. I will quickly tell you coming out of the gate here that I am with you on. I don't want to go back. I don't want to go back to. You know what? Somebody else go. I need an extra second here to figure out my pick. Yeah, I'll go ahead and start here. I'm going to take the Packers minus three and a half at the Jets. The Packers obviously had the most calamitous loss of week one, even though the Chargers lost to the Cardinals. But I thought, Jordan Love, you want to talk about playing well and being overshadowed. That guy was awesome. Some of the plays that are coming out on tape that I'm seeing out on Twitter, unbelievable throws that Jordan Love was making all over the field. I'm not really buying into the Jets just yet in terms of playing competition like the Packers. Give me the Packers here minus three and a half in New York. Gino, you go next. Well, I already mentioned it. The 49ers, I think, are the safe pick if you're doing a survivor pool. I think they're also. I mean, safe! Thirteen and a half ain't safe! I think it is. I think it's probably going to be closer to 20. The 49ers will probably have their backups in by the fourth quarter. Caballo. I'm going to take the Eagles laying a touchdown against the Titans. I don't think we've seen how bad the Titans can really be. And I think we're about to see it this week. I think the Eagles stomp them. So I'm going to lay the seven points with Philly. Full disclosure, I lost in my file here. You know, I tend to go from the gut more than I do from the pitch. I tend to go from the page and then sometimes I get sideways trying to find it. That was actually my pick was the Eagles. We could share it, Dave. We could share it. I don't want to do it. You know what I'm going to do instead? I will take, just to be a little different there, and I actually happen to believe this one, I'll take the Chiefs 28-20 over the visiting Colts. The Chiefs, what's a weird little bit of their dynastic run is they have not been great at covering in Arrowhead. That did start to change, though, over the last season or two. They hammered the Broncos Broncos, I suspect the Colts are overmatched. at six and a half that's not rich enough if you like a team to win like them up to like them to win by seven at least is a good rule to operate under and now let's do the over under the total that i like is one that buddy just mentioned there carolina atlanta i'm going under 43 and a half i suspect that number is inflated by the panthers no show on defense last week against the bears but as a reminder the falcons offense is not the bears offense ergo somewhere under 43 and a half i'll say you tony i'm going to take two hot offenses i know one is in a little bit of flux with their wide receivers but i'm going to take the ravens and saints over 46 and a half um i really i've been very quietly dave buying a lot of saints stock very quietly i've opened up a couple shell corporations over the last couple of years and i've been very quietly buying a lot of saints overseas had them buying stock over there like i've got a couple things working i'm trying to get the sec out of my hair when it comes to how much stock i'm actually buying i really like the saints is here as we've previously mentioned i'm going to take the over so don't care about that oh you mean a different sec yeah yeah yeah yes the sec it's just uh just means more uh give me the 46 and a half i'm going to take the over on raven saints i like that gino all right so washington and dallas is uh 50 50.5 is the over under it's the highest over under uh outside of the thursday night game the bills and the and the lions so i'm going to just go ahead and say under um one of the things that the giants did really well against the cowboys was control the clock and keep dallas off the field i think you're going to see some of that from washington also washington's defense is the way they're calling it it changed a little bit and it really threw the eagles off um in week one remember they had a chance to tie it at the end of the eagle they you know washington came up short so i'm going to say that's stefan diggs yeah stefan diggs came up yeah i'm going to say that's the under washington against dallas buddy you know me i'm always going to take the over life is too short to take the under so what i'm going to do is i'm going to rock where tony went with i'm going to go ravens and saints over 46 and a half as well both of these teams scored 30 in week one the ravens put up a 40 piece on the colts uh i just i i love the points here i like offense offense offense in this game and tyler shuck he balled out at the end of that game against the lions he was fantastic so i like them to keep that rolling in week two remember opening lines aren't always indicative of where the they the bookmakers think the game's gonna land the jets were plus four and a half to start this as we go into our underdog picks here you it's now down to three and a half packers fans uh and otherwise getting providing some sobriety here and saying like let's not get crazy about the jets i'm gonna get crazy i think the jets might win this game outright i like them plus the three and a half i like them more that's two weeks in a row of dave taking the jets that is bold starting with the jets twice in a row i like what dave's doing there because i'm not super sold in the packers you said you saw jordan love throwing the ball which you know to christian watson to tucker craft and broken plays you know what they also did they lost yeah to carson went by 17 so they allowed 29 points in the second half carson wentz or geno smith right i mean if you want to play that game right in a pinch that's a game in a pinch i'm taking i'll take i'll take both in a pinch i'm taking i'll take both in a pinch i'll take both in a pinch i'm taking i'll take both in a pinch i'm taking i'll take both in a pinch i'm taking i'll take both in a pinch i'm taking both in a pinch plus four and a half dave damashek i don't think the bears defense is ready for what the vikings are able to do offensively with justin jefferson i also think brian flores is going to have some special blitzes and stuff dialed up special pressures for caleb williams and i think there's bad blood being brewed in the nfc north completely with ben johnson i think he's he's lighting fire to every single bridge in the division he already burned down the detroit bridge he hates the nfc north completely with ben johnson i think he's he's lighting fire to every single he hates matt lafleur even though he's never met him which is i think one of the best under underlying bits of the entire nfl and now the minnesota vikings i think they're going to try to stick it to him and uh and blow beef flow is going to be ready styles make the fights come on for sure ben johnson it's grand who else has an underdog pick i'll go here this my underdog pick is going to be i'm taking the steelers wow 5.5 wow pandering yeah but pandering today the patriots are missing aj brown um sealers have a good defense i don't know where they're going to find offense in uh in new england um but it's going to be it's it's going to be close it's going to be a defensive war they have the pieces he's just the quarterback who's the issue there yep um buddy bring it on home yeah i was actually going to rock with that pick but i saw that gina was going to do it so i changed my bandwagon everybody's great picks i'm gonna go i'm gonna go back to the well with the game i picked the over under in i'm gonna take the saints plus eight and a half at the ravens that's a big number for me the saints lost by one point in detroit last weekend forced them to the very end they went for two to win the game i i know the ravens looked great in week one we don't know about the status of save flowers quite yet you know the colts are i think the saints are better than the colts at this point give me the saints eight and a half is a big number for these two offenses i think this will be a big number for be a close game the saints wear that old gold and that reminds me that gold is valuable because it's rare and so are wins for the teams in the nfc south ergo i said before the season started if the saints somehow got to one and one and they almost got that one last week with the rally in detroit if they somehow could knock off the ravens i bet i know this is crazy to say in week two i think they win the division because as i say it's not like any team in that division's getting to 12 or 13 so if you can get one and a half and a half you're going to win the division one um surprise win along the way even early in the season that puts you in the driver's seat to some degree all right let's get to the winner's stand that's how we're going to do it uh in the 2026 season we have identified the three biggest games of the week by our estimation and at number three so i guess it's a bronze medal or wait you get a blue ribbon or a uh you get a white ribbon for second and red for third is that how it goes whatever it is it's our red ribbon game our bronze game number three jacksonville denver rematch or one of the biggest playoff upsets in the history of people 30 to 27 the jags knocked off the mighty elway broncos in 96 was that or i love this dave you brought up that the niners and dolphins is a super bowl 19 rematch and now you're bringing up a playoff game from 96 do you think the guys in the locker room are like man we really got to get back at the niners for what they did to us in super bowl 19 or do you think the guys are like the broncos are like we got to get back at the jags for that upset in 96 the year my brother was born what how many of them were alive that's a great question i wasn't probably a lot we got to think of the vets on the 96 is 30 years eight or ten of them my brother's born in 96 he's 30 so how many guys are 30 or over or older on all these things all right the broncos at home after the bummer of a game in arrow head they're laying two and a half 43 and a half is the total of the time of this recording i'm going jags with an upset pick here and really putting the broncos behind the eight ball 26 24 trevor lawrence this is a durable um i i think this team i know big performance and we i think this is going to sustain itself throughout the season tony how say you um i love the jags i've loved the jags for a couple of years now with the with the addition of leon cohen i think it's really unlocked where trevor lawrence is going trajectory wise um in the last nine games outside of the playoffs which they obviously lost the jags are nine and oh offense is absolutely through the roof trevor lawrence is tied for most excuse me fourth and passing yards number one in touchdowns uh number one or two or three in qbr like he is blowing the doors off of every single defense he plays and i think last week was super indicative of the style they want to play a lot of amounts to feed but they're going to spread the ball all over the place if they find the running game this could be a you know super bowl contender my issue is they're still in flux with that with chris rodriguez and bashoff limiting factor is the o-line right that that for sure but i just trust liam cohen so much now finding his bag as an offensive play caller with the with the weapons that he has around them so i love the jags here in this spot as dog live dogs live cats however you want either one of us take him as our dog quickly buddy and gino your scores for this game i've got the jags 28 20 i loved what i saw for lawrence in week one he he looked phenomenal i'm really concerned about the broncos as well sorry gino i think the the jags are really going to test the fence here uh sort of like a jurassic park reference if they can run on the broncos and the broncos can't stop it then you've got a book on the broncos and things could go down really quickly for denver uh i think i think they're going to win i think it's going to be close though i think it's going to be like a like a 24 23 type deal jags and then denver's going to have to figure out something with their run defense because again the jags haven't been able to run if they can run they're going to run on the broncos and the broncos are in trouble i mean it's not everything but right you're getting at gino is the reason for your pick to some degree is that the broncos can't afford to go to oh and two and that's kind of why i have the patriots there's not anything in terms of the x's and o's that lean to new england's favor in my estimation but i think they have to have the game they understand reality now at number two we have the aforementioned nfc north war they're always great games minnesota vikings chicago bears at home laying five and a half 48 and a half is your total um you know these i'm Fascinated by the regions of football America, and the rivalries are great all over the place, but which ones are the nastiest ones? Within the NFC North, which is the most hated team among its division rivals? I didn't want to try to answer this one myself. Instead, I went to my blue ribbon panel, as I do on our text chain, on all matters, including the most important game of all, the game of life. My Midwestern pals from Indiana University residing in Chicago and all over, the Midwest, I turn to Bears and Vikings fans. I think today we have my guy Spugach, we have T.L. Tom Long, and we have the hog Derek Bowen answering the question, who is the most hated team in the NFC North? Take it away, fellas. Todd here. I am a Chicago Bears fan. I absolutely hate the Green Bay Packers the most, Vikings after that, and then the Lions. First, let's talk about the non-player elements. Fight song. Bear down Chicago Bears and the Super Bowl. Super Bowl shuffle versus some horn and skull clapping or da-da-da-da-da, let go, Pat, go, or whatever it is. Like, Bears have way better songs. Also, uniform colors. Bears classic navy versus yellow or purple? Not even close. On the player side, one team has someone named Sweetness. The other guys had Rogers, Favre, and many forget Charles Martin, that dirty punk that wrote McMahon's number on. I don't know. I don't know. one all the time the green bay packers those guys and second on the list of the chicago bears i hate them but if i gotta pick one i gotta i'll take the packers the lions who cares a bunch of losers but i i'd root for them if they were in the playoffs but anyway school go vikings packers suck bears suck packers suck bears rule there's so many things i love about this video dave not the least of which is not the least of which is just calling your buddy the hog in 1939 when you were in college mean the same thing that it would now no reason to work like that listen those are world those those are national champions you're talking about you're damn right in where you guys sit right now miami watch the indiana who's okay okay they should have been what are we doing here it's an nfc north conversation keep it moving on behalf of all those guys i extend my heartfelt uh condolences for what happened i thought we had a no job policy rear view like i say um bears are the favorite team here five and a half is the number if you're cynical about 59 points versus the panthers a better defense awaits as we talk about with brian flores nevertheless i do think because it's carson wentz it's not kyler murray that's not a small matter the bears do take care of business and win by a touchdown tony you go oh i don't know i think it's not a small matter i think it's not a small matter i think minnesota's a live dog here i really like what what um what koc can do from a play calling perspective and like the bears got really tested defensively by jaylen coker who was the best wide receiver on a stats per stats basis this past weekend so i'm looking at that defense and i'm like man there's a lot of holes and if anybody can exploit it's going to be koc i expect justin jefferson to have a massive day and the bears are going to have to answer offensively so i think this could be another nice little low-key shootout 48 and a half i probably take the over there but i'm going to stick with minnesota plus plus the points i like tony going uh like um troy acheman there if anybody can take advantage of it it's chaos i bet there's some other teams that could take it i don't think so he's the best we got in the league right now the only one he's the best yeah i'm gonna ride with the bears here i think we're forgetting quickly how carson wentz played in this offense last year and it didn't look very pretty i know they had a miraculous comeback against the packers last weekend they put up 39 points they looked awesome brian flores tony's right will have some kind of crazy plan to try and throw caleb off i don't know if it'll be enough because of how he looked last week give me the bears big here actually i'm gonna rock with them 31 to 17. wow gino your score all right one of the things that happened last week was that the bears ran all over the carolina panthers did you see uh green bay attempting to run on on the minnesota vikings because you can't because they blitz everybody on every play yeah and so it makes it really hard and a part of the uh you know part of the game offensively for ben johnson it gets overlooked because you have caleb williams is that they run the ball a ton yeah i think it was five rushing touchdowns it was six rushing touchdowns against carolina panthers that's going to be some disruption uh in the end no i think it'll be pretty close and i think it'll end up being a vikings win and i think people are going to start questioning whether or not carson wentz should keep this job um so i'm gonna go 24 21 minnesota because i i think it's going to be really hard for the bears to get their run game going i do think by the end of the game you're going to be like how much longer is it going to be till kyler comes back here jj number nine ain't the answer at number one this week on the winter stay in the gold medal game bangles texans home team texans laying two and a half 46 and a half is your total um and it's a rematch of of course the wild card round when these two teams played one another in houston i think it was 27 straight seasons uh they played each other the text to my previous point i know it's simplistic the texans have to have this game yes the bangles took shook off the stink of never being able to come out of the gate with a win they've done that now i think the texans survive by a field goal or more um buddy how say you i'm gonna take the texans as well 28 24 here i expect to see not as much offense as we saw with the bills last weekend but still plenty of offense in this game um burrows and i think it's going to be is going to do his best against this defense but i just think like you said dave they've got to have this one this is such an important game for the texans this game is going under by the way oh you think so yeah give up 30 points a game defense no that's defense happens to be halfway decent i agree with you by the way i amarius mims just stonewalled ruben bain so now he goes up in class let's see if he can shut down will anderson that's a huge challenge for him i'm gonna take the texans here though 28 to 24 i think we see you know wrap it up for us i'm gonna do 20 17 houston texans uh one thing i do want to have one comment here one fantasy comment here if you have david montgomery on your team and you just saw him throw up three touchdowns whatever i want you to turn around go find the james cook owner go find anyone who underperformed get rid of david montgomery right now he will not have another three touchdown game all year i'm not saying he's gonna be bad but you could really upgrade here by taking that three touchdown performance and trying to catch somebody who may be overreacting a little bit to that first week all right listen i think we've said pretty much everything we need to say in advance of nfl week two here but i don't know if it's sad if it's sadness that we're wrapping it up here it's getting chilly in here do you guys feel that downright cold oh i know what this is it's time to talk about jägermeister serve it cold or don't serve it at all jägermeister damn that's cold damn that's cold visit jägermeister.com drink responsibly and i have some thoughts to wrap things up here thanks to 32 year old david montgomery taking up where he left off it's refreshed the super bowl era goat running back debate why as we talked about earlier in the show some football americans are now even saying henry's top five all time real quick understand where running backs are concerned it may not be style over substance but let's at least put style on the same level as substance it's almost like talking about different genres of music there's hard hard rock derrick henry marshawn lynch and earl campbell there's smooth jazz and there's smooth jazz and there's smooth jazz and there's smooth jazz and there's smooth jazz and there's smooth jazz like eric dickerson marshall falk ladaney and tomlinson and their og inspiration tony dorset who could both run and catch they're kind of like do it all musicians like david bowie emmett smith is blink 182 right down the middle not too exciting but the numbers are the numbers and there's old school funk that's barry sanders not sure where that leaves oj i guess death metal is the obvious choice there involving the juice in a list like this feels a little bit weird i mean what an actor he was that's the headline but ranking the goat running backs is also tough because most living fans including me have barely even seen jim brown play and when you're ranking guys you haven't actually watched play you've turned this into a term paper for running backs the pleasures in the journey not just the destination even if it is just four yards at a time if we just shut up and dribble and stick to the sport of football only oj's unique gallop ranks him with sanders gail sayers and shady mccoy on the all-time list of pretty runners then again if clutch counts for qb's it should be a factor here along with franco harris john riggins and marshawn lynch number 22 emmett smith gets extra points for delivering in the big spots but to the matter at hand a hand derrick henry is he a top 10 super bowl era running back yes yes he is what's more he's the best big back of the last 60 years but is he top five i guess it's worth discussing but the first half of that era aka the 20th century had the better collection of runners and even among the guys of this millennium i've got ladanian and adrian peterson ahead of henry and shout out lev bell who in an alternate reality would be on here too in this reality let's start with my best of the Super Bowl era, number one, Walter Payton. When people talk about how Barry Sanders never had the benefit of being on a good team, tell them about Walter Payton, who spent his prime taking handoffs from Bob Avellini, Mike Phipps, and Vince Evans. All the numbers still stack up, but no matter what you think about the numbers, you don't need to overthink it. Payton is football's all-time combo of might and grace. He was versatile, had almost 500 catches. He was a great blocker. He threw eight touchdown passes. He jumped over entire defenses, and he did it wearing sneakers called Roos, short for kangaroos. At number two, Eric Dickerson. It's an oxymoron, I know, but there are some severely underrated Hall of Fame running backs, Frank O'Hare, Thurman Thomas, future Hall of Famer, I hope, Jamal Charles, but I don't know. And above the rest, Eric Dickerson. Maybe 21st century fashionistas can't get past his period-specific look, or maybe it's as basic as that upright, gliding gait he had, which was very much like Jerry Rice's style, which made it all look too easy. If you check out the numbers, though, he went for a minimum of 1,800 yards in three of his first four seasons. He averaged 100 yards per game five times. At number three, Barry Sanders averaged more than 1,500 yards a game, almost got to 100 yards a game average over the course of his career. But if you watch the games, and not just the highlights, you'll recall Barry was dancing around in the backfield, looking to break the big one. He was the RB equivalent of swinging for the fences, and like most sluggers, he struck out a fair amount of the time. He also gets too much praise in my book for putting up his numbers against defenses allegedly focused solely on him. In fact, Sanders was actually lucky to spend a fair amount of his time playing in Mouse Davis's spread offense that created a lot of space for the runners. And then the three-way tie at number four for me is Falk, Dorsett, and LaDainian. I told you about their numbers. I told you about how gifted they are. I told you about how gifted they were in terms of versatility. And LaDainian was a little more rugged than the other two guys in that category, but they all are ahead of Derrick Henry. And Earl Campbell goes ahead of him, too. I love Bum Phillips, but he ran Earl into the ground. And, man, watch him running around Earl Campbell. Dig up those highlights. Massive legs, flailing arms, make him look like an out-of-control plus-size rodeo rider on an invisible bull. Anyhoo, those are my thoughts. Let me know in the comments section on YouTube. Make sure you're subscribed. Thanks to all the fellows for joining, including Greg Rosenthal. 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