Apparently you can tout (the season finale)

My so you think it's out pitch I'm here tonight to give you my pitch. I believe I have a pitch covering a subject that in the next five years will be the most popular way to play fantasy football. It started out as some little idea. You think you can do this better than me? Fantasy football analysis, touting, being entertaining on camera? Okay, prove it. Send me an application and that's what 135 bros did. And now we've whittled those submissions down to a final three. And by the end of this episode, we will have crowned our first. And do not ask me if it's the last champion of so you think you can tout. I'll be your host, Peter Oversett. So you think you can tout? You're fucking a right? We fucking think we can. Hunter S Thompson once said, "The first impression is always the right one." That certainly appears to be the case when it comes to our three so you think you can tout finalists. All three immediately caught our eye with their initial submission. There was PPR Tyler looking for gogurts in his fridge. I make money doing this. Guys, this is my fridge. Does this look like I'm killing it on fantasy football YouTube right now? Tony Squares, calling out the best ball babies. Now those best ball babies can sit this one out. If I could draft 25 running backs and get the best two scores every week, I'd win money to Nay Nay. And Alex Cups, flexing his credentials. I am truly addicted to fantasy football so much so that I actually wrote my 92 page thesis paper for my master's program on creating a machine learning model to predict fantasy success. Pat Mayo, our Simon Cowell, like them all. So let's start. I would go seven and a half out of 10. I thought he was pretty good. I like him. He's good. Nine and a half. Nine and a half on this guy. This guy's good. This guy's very good. All three of our finalists earned one of the seven coveted lock spots at the start of this competition, which allowed them to skip the tricky tout twist challenge and jump immediately into the final 16. But it wasn't all smooth sailing from there. In fact, along the way, each of these three finalists were on the ropes at one point. And in the case of PPR Tyler, completely out altogether. When we hit duo week, our final 16 were split off into eight pairs. Cups drew the electric exterminator Kurt Rambus. They put together a very fun submission, but Adam Levitan was not a fan. If like this popped onto my YouTube, I would just like snap, click off. Cups and Rambus went to a head to head vote and only one could survive. I was in the production chat being like, I don't know, man. Like Cups, people like him, but Rambus is building fans quickly. Like people might just go Rambus. Like he, I thought he was legit on the ropes. Cups and yes, his wife rallied everyone they knew and he pushed through. After duo week, we went straight to our survivor challenge and then to a debate tournament. PPR Tyler struggled in both. And that changes constantly with news and everything else. And ADP can't catch up as fast enough with some of those things. He got the lowest score of the remaining eight in the debate tournament. We gave his co-collaborator, Best Ball Guy, the choice to either save his friend or earn a reward for himself, an entire week of streaming with me and Pat Carrane. BBG said, "Peat, I think I'm gonna take the deal, man." And PPR was out. For now, at least. Then there's Tony Squares. He smashed the duo challenge with Neal Farley, got MVP of Survivor Week won the debate tournament and then the seemingly unstoppable Tony Express came off the rails. He had received an advantage from winning the debate tournament, a layup interview with David Kitchen instead of a random draw of someone from the chat, like the other contestants would have. Squares bombed. "I know you're a soccer guy as well. I'm not actually a soccer guy." He had the lowest score, which sent him to an additional elimination challenge, where he somehow drew Rambus, where I guess I should say Bowser Rambus. "I was gonna be Bowser Rambus, and you know, we're gonna have you as Donkey Squares." He survived. In that same episode, the interview, a lucky twist of fate got PPR Tyler back on the show. First, a random draw on the bash put him in as a fan, on screen with Michael O'Hara, his duo partner. Who do we got? Who do we got? He crushed it, and we knew what we had to do. PPR had axed BBG for site credits. BBG repaid the favor, so we decided to complete the trilogy and give emo cowboy a choice to bring PPR back. He bucked the trend and made the selfless move. "I will not be accused of holding back the tower. It's the year of the tower. Bring the kid back. PPR, you're the tower." "Yep, bang, let's fucking go, baby!" All three of Squares' cups and PPR Tyler headed to streaming week with wind in their sales. A new lease on life for PPR was not wasted as he crushed it, as a guest with Davis Maddick, hosting me on Bestball Breakfast, and executing his own solo stream at a high level. Squares bounced back as well with solid performances across the board. Let's just not talk about his Cubes. "Don't build a team like this. Don't do it." In cups showcased his data modeling and dynasty background in an impressive way within the Bestball streaming sandbox. So we're looking at the ADP on Sleeper Dynasty Startups. We're comparing that ADP in position rank to where these players go on underdog. I conferred with Davis Maddick and Pat Karein, two guys I've been collaborating with for years. We decided Michael O'Hara in emo cowboy would be going home. We had our final three. Three day one locks. Three near-death experiences. Three guys who had survived everything this show had thrown at them. I let them know. "I got good news, brother. You've made the final three." "No way. Seriously? Wow. That is not what I expected to hear. Hopping on to be completely honest with you." I think just the remaining guys like everyone's so good. It's just hard for me to put myself in that tier. So I really appreciate it, man. Squares showed up early for his call. I was still on the air with cups. What's up? Sorry for crashing on cups as party there. It's all good. It's all good. Well, it's actually fitting because both of you will be crashing the so you think you can tout finals. Congratulations, sir. Let's go. I was worried, Peter. I was genuinely, oh, man, that makes me really happy. Good for cups, too. He deserves it. Thank you, Peter. Oh, fuck yes. That's exciting. And then PPR Tyler hopped on. Good news, brother. You made the final three. Bang. Massive. Massive. Thank you. It feels good to be in the final three. Appreciate that. With the final three set, it was time to tell them exactly how the last challenge of this contest would work. No tricks this time, no surprise twists. Just one question. That top prize, getting to do a weekly show with me on my channel. What would it be? I scheduled 45 minute brainstorm calls with all three of these guys coming open book. There's no like, you know, I'm trying to, you know, I like genuinely just want to spitball, see what, what sounds cool to both of us. So I'll let you start like where, where's your head out of, of something you think we could do? Yeah, I think the first thing, like the thing that I feel like I would most want to do is just expanding off of the film stuff in some capacity, just providing a different, I would say source of like, you know, like a different side of a take, that's not just numbers, that's not just vibes or situation, like actually looking at this guy, like, and what he puts on film. Squares wanted to zoom out before getting into the nitty gritty. Me aside, whether it's me or Tyler or Cups or whoever wins this thing, like when you started this whole, so you think you can tell what was the goal of this final show, like whatever the pitch wins, whatever person wins, what do you want out of it? To be completely honest, when I started this, I don't think I think I had the start of the show and I didn't have the end of the show. I was like the idea of the premise and like truly like figuring it out as we go. Obviously that is crystallized and come into focus for me down the stretch. If I had to triangulate it, it was like a new voice, a new perspective in almost like pushing me outside my comfort zone of like, what's something we both enjoy, but you know, it's different and fresh and energizing and maybe even makes me think about my content in a different way. And Cups already had a plan in mind. My initial thought is like I mentioned something different for every season. I started with fall because I figured fall is going to be the bread and butter of everything. Once the brainstorms were done, the finalists went back into the lab. In a few days later, one by one, they came back with their official Shark Tank pitch. This is the show I want to make with you. I welcomed PPR Tyler into the tank first. All right, Peter, we're down to the final three. My, so you think it's out pitch, the idea is a film based show. Something I've also started to incorporate on my streams is this idea of just breaking down film on stream and relating it back to best fall specifically, which I don't think anybody really does in the community right now. So my idea is to use film as another tool just to kind of analyze player ADPs for best fall, DFS in season and dynasties. I actually think that this show is probably the best in season, like just the idea of doing like a weekend review almost where it's like week one just happened. All right, let's look at the film. What are we seeing on there and how are we going to relate that to the ideas that we had of these guys kind of pre draft and kind of look at it from that lens. You can do that weeks one through 17. You just kind of break down specific players, maybe things that stand out and then just dynasty too. Obviously breaking down rookies. That's my favorite thing to do. I don't see a lot of channels or I haven't seen any big channels. Really use film as one of the ways that they're you know deciding between players or deciding between who they want to start or sit I mean, it's a really unique idea and then I expect some of that really no one has done I didn't think it'd be any good though if we didn't at least run you through a demo I know you're not a big Alex pierce guy So I thought this would be the perfect time to kind of you know Maybe we can change your mind on Alex pierce. There's this big notion out there like obviously everyone knows Alex pierce is a deep threat. Everyone knows like that's his game. So I didn't put any of those clips in here because we know what he is Deep down the field. I'm not going to just show you highlights What I want to show you is kind of just the concepts the cults have been running I obviously the play the play callers back Daniel Jones should be healthy to start the season and There is a lot more for Alex pierce's game to grow. So this first play here It's gonna end up being a deep in here. So defense in here. We got to cover three this safety's rolling down So and Alex pierce is on the back side of this concept So we got this front side concept right here. We got kind of like this slant from Josh Downs from our three He's in a motion to be it to be our number three. So you have a slant from him kind of a sit route from Michael Pitman And then a crossing from Warren the front side of this concepts right here But then we have Alex pierce in the back side right here and one of the things in the NFL like not you would think every I feel receive would run hard on the back side of the route like this guy's probably the last option and he runs a really good Deep in right here, and one of the things that I love about this route and it's it's really small But it shows me that there's a lot of nuance to his game is when he breaks this off. So right here He's on like this this six yard line right here Some receivers are just gonna are gonna keep this flat and they're you're they're gonna expect the ball to be thrown kind of right on This hash mark what pierce does a really good job of is working back to the ball And that's something out every receiver does and it just shows you that like he's actually a pretty good nuance receiver And he actually there's a lot more stuff I'm feeling. I can't show you but he does a really good job at running these these inside routes Like these deep ends these deep crossers and just working back to the ball using that big frame Next place to be against the chargers here. I think I got I got the just I do think it's objectively entertaining and it's it's fun to watch I'm curious though how How actionable do you think it is do you think you can become a better basketball player a better fantasy football player from this or is it at the end of the day It's it's just fun. It's like you know an entertainment vehicle. I think it no I think it's definitely actually well. I think it's a really good way to kind of look at it like it's more of like a how talented is this guy And like is he doing the right things on the field because that's kind of what the film was for kind of to assess talent more than anything If I picked you and you know, we do a show like this. What would be your goal to get out of it? Like obviously you you'd be on a bigger channel you'd be getting some exposure But yeah, like what would be the thing you'd be looking to get out of it say we you know commit to doing this for a year Dynasty going through that. What would be your goal? I think the overall goal is just to make good content and kind of just grow Like just just do something different and be good at it like to get it in a different lane Per se because I think that's the biggest thing is like I can sit on stream all day and drive best well things I can even do something on my own channel But I think the goal was just to be make good content and have fun like I said those are the two things that I care the most about Like you see those dumb ass videos I post on Twitter of me dancing in G&C It's like I want to make fun of myself If it was like is it good content and did I have fun for the most part? I'm trying to do my content like within traditional work hours How would that work with like you're in season schedule right? I assume you're you're teaching you're coaching with your own streams You kind of fire it up whenever you want like naturally. How do you think that would fit in with kind of my existing programming schedule? It's kind of one of those things where it's like it's probably like early in the morning Or it has to be like you know, it would have to be like at night or like a pre-recording thing to entering the tout tank next was Tony squares Well first off Peter genuinely. I want to thank you for this opportunity. I am extremely excited I'm also a little bit nervous as we said. I am grateful. I am humbled to be here, but mostly I am excited because I believe I have a pitch covering a subject that in the next five years will be the most popular way to play fantasy football and that is of course The guillotine league. I believe in the future guillotine leagues will take over your casual read draft leagues the work leagues That you play because that barrier of entry is so much easier to overcome all you got to do is don't come in last place It also takes care of the inactive players out there You don't have to text Tom from accounting to set his lineup every week because the guillotine will chop him early for the betterment of the league And for the hard O's out there the best ball bros. There is nothing more difficult than winning a guillotine league Because this thing changes each and every week as your opponents get better every step of the way It is truly a difficult thing to do and it has something for everybody and I also I'm not the only fantasy football mind that is bullish on the future of guillotine leagues Peter as you know Your friend math you bury just spent a hefty sum of money to acquire the IP of the guillotine league and I am also As I get older a little bit more attuned to the business sense of the world And I see the two sponsors sitting over your shoulders And I do believe I've created a show that is a perfect marriage of the two My pitch to you Is to co-host a show during your Monday morning football slate Where we talk about fantasy football through a guillotine specific lens And I think we can create enough segments that satisfy both the casual fan as well as the best ball bro degenerates that permeate your following In the preseason we will talk about draft strategy from a guillotine lens as well as team building from a guillotine lens Because they're both so different than your other casual redraft leagues How much should you focus on the tight end of position in a 18 person draft? How long do you let a Malik neighbors fall because he's going to start the season on the publics? How early do you grab a one Dale Robinson because he has that week one match up for us the more bun jets And I do believe that conversation can easily translate to those underdog best ball eliminated draft So we can make the current rambuses of the world happy as well But when we get in season That's when things really get rolling because we're going on Monday mornings We get to look ahead at that Monday night matchup talk to some fans who might be sweating it out They're on the brink they need to know are their players going to perform are they not going to perform answer any start sit questions that are out there and then together I can use my sports betting background and we can combine for an underdog prediction parlay that our viewers can then tail alongside with us We can look ahead at the slate next week to try and pick some nugget some juicy people that people might want to target on the waiver wire and speaking of waivers On guillotine leagues use a fab balance in order to play the waiver system So we get to talk about fab balance strategy. Do you save that money for December? Do you spend a little bit on a Tony Pollock because he might get you to November there are so many subjects that we can cover in season both in general and in the specifics that I think this show can be really really exciting because of it But the crem de la crem about what this show can offer is also if I can be so bold The fault of so you think you can tout because we've talked for weeks now But we truly don't know who can actually tout because we never played the games If asked and genty speaking of rambus becomes the rb1 this season then give rambus the crown I would like to not only co-host this show with you but become the commissioner of the first ever Peter overs at guillotine league where you and I alongside some well-known players in the fantasy football Some so you think you can tout personalities and of course Some lucky subscribers that can play with us all of us play in an 18 person guillotine league to truly find out who is the best out And because this show will be covering both guillotine leagues and this league in particular We can have some of these players go live with us that Monday morning to talk about them sweating out potentially getting cut far too early it would be electric And I also am a man of the people Peter and I am more than willing to put up a large sum of my so you think you can tout underdog site credit winners purse So we can have both weekly prizes and a grand prize for this league and I understand I am bullish on the future of guillotine leagues, but there is nothing like this out there in the space right now And I believe between the two of us between my hosting acumen and your fantasy football knowledge in the context that you have We could on arrival have the most watched and most entertaining guillotine fantasy show on Al Gore's internet And it could be because I've watched too much over the wire in my time But I really like the idea of owning a corner and I think we could do that. So in conclusion If I could sum this up a TLDR and some corny little rhyme You you invited the survivor guy in the so you think you can tout It just makes sense. I host a show where every week we snuff someone's torch out That's my pitch one thing that's been talked about a lot and you probably saw in the episode is And you mention it in your pitch too about your skills as a host. How do you envision this show From like a host co host standpoint do you see yourself as kind of the true host point guard and you're you know sending it to me as the analyst do you view us as like joint co host in this, how do you actually envision this playing out from, from a hosting perspective? I will say I, I am interested to see how our individual chemistry works because do we work together as a co-host, tandem, do we work together as a host, pitching it to the analyst, but if I had to pick between the two to start, I think me as the host off the top and leaning on you as the guy coming in with the facts and the numbers and the point of you and playing off of you as sort of the analyst part, I think is the best way to do it. If we find ourselves that we're really good as a tag team and we can both play both roles and switch hats as we go along and we'll learn that as we do this together, then I think we can easily switch that up. But initially, I think myself as the host and you more as the guy with all the knowledge could work. Obviously, this is going to be a paid gig. It's going to be nowhere, you know, close to like a full-time thing. So I'm, I'm curious like, how do you view that, you know, as well of like, yeah, this will be, you know, something that adds some, some money to your pocket, but it's also not necessarily, you know, your path to being full-time here. Like, is your goal to get full-time in the space? I'm kind of curious of your overall goals specifically within fantasy. When I was at my old company gaming society, it was the first time since I moved out to LA, I had like a set, good, solid paycheck doing something that I love. And I was talking about sports and sports betting. And in that startup, it was a crazy startup, don't need to go into the specifics of it. But to get a good paycheck, talking about sports that was consistent with health benefits and all that other jazz like that was, it reset my mind as I get older. I'm 37 like chasing the dragon of coming out here to become an actor and like working bartending gigs and just trying to get by like going paycheck to paycheck. I lived all my through my whole 20s that way. And building out this TikTok and Instagram, everything else I've built that does pay me here and there. And from this guy and from vivid seats, I get this and from you, I get this like that has been very profitable. But to find a home where I can simply grind my ass off and get a steady paycheck at some location at some landing spot, that would be the ultimate goal. So whether that comes by doing seven different shows with seven different people and I'm also covering survivor and I'm also covering football like I'm not looking to leave any of those should the first door open up for me. But the goal is as I'm getting closer and closer to my 40s and I want to be serious with my girlfriend and figure life out and move forward in that capacity and I want to be able to have that security of I have a landing spot. I'm making this money. I'm building towards some things. It was time for our final taupe pitch from Alex Cups, you made it final three. So you think you'd out finish line as insight and I'm here tonight to give you my pitch. In today's fantasy industry, it's hard to find content that is consistently entertaining while also offering legitimate data driven insights to the consumer. I think it's time to change that. You have the domain experience, the hosting chops and some of the most entertaining content on YouTube in my opinion. I have the data expertise of burning passion for fantasy football and the ability to explain complex data ideas to a non technical audience. So here's my pitch to you, Pete. Billy Bean had Paul D. Podesta, Davis Matic as Mike Clay. You've been in this industry long enough, Pete. It's about time you had your own quant and I am the man for that job. What's nice about our combined skill set is we have some flexibility with what we want to do. You have your finger on the pulse of so many different areas in the fantasy space. And my biggest passion is simply using data to find a competitive edge. This means we can orchestrate a year round show with different content every season, whether it's NFL in season, out of season, summer, fall. We can have different content and be dynamic for what we do. The NFL in season content, it's focused on a weekly DFS underdog battle royale preview and strategy show. In this show, we discuss our favorite matchups of the upcoming slate, the best targets, any games that we feel like might be flying under the radar a little bit. And finally, we would build a team together when it comes to op season. This is where I think our dynamism and our flexibility really shows a little bit in terms of our skill sets. I've outlined a couple things here, pre NFL draft, like looking at the weekly rises and followers across mock draft database, looking at which prospects are skyrocketing up the board on average, which ones are falling. Why is this happening, potentially having a discussion there? And then also looking at early bestball ADP as well. So I feel like in these early contests that come out right after the Super Bowl, there's some serious value to be gained if you're familiar with the prospect streets and mock draft database and seeing where these guys are expected to go once the draft comes around post NFL draft. This is when I think we get into some of the more dynasty specific stuff because we have the full picture. I think we could do some prospect profile breakdowns together. Obviously, I have the data background and I can bring my model to the table in terms of what we think of these rookies. You have other information you can bring about these rookies to the table and we can have conversations about them together. Come at it from all angles. And I think that could be really good content as well. I think we might want to shift our focus a little bit from dynasty to redraft later in the off season. The casual platforms like Sleeper, Yahoo ESPN, CBS, comparing those to underdog ADP. Now to wrap this up, I just wanted to highlight why I think I should be the one to win this competition. I just want to reiterate that I think I have a unique ability to explain complex data takeaways and trends to a non-technical audience. I think that's something that I do differently than a lot of other data people in this space. And I think it makes it easier to understand what I'm talking about than your average person talking about data in fancy football. Two, I think I can help you develop a more well-rounded, diverse, expanded audience in the fancy football space. So let's move on from just the best ballbrows. We love them. We're not moving on from them in terms of the content we're providing, but we're going to expand and service a larger audience. We're going to service redraft, we're going to service dynasty. We're going to have content that fits all forms of fantasy football. It's applicable to everybody. And three, one thing I think is very interesting about data analytics in general is just that it really is a universally translatable language. So say Pete, two years from now, you want to venture into other fantasy sports. You want to look at golf. You want to look at baseball, basketball. Let's do it. I'll go grab the data and try to figure out some historical trends. We can work into our content. If you want to go do something that's entirely different, that's not even fantasy sports related, I'm all in as well. You know, data is applicable to so many things that we could do any sort of content together. And I truly think this puts no ceiling on the collaborations we could have in the future together. So all that being said, let's get to work. Thanks again for having me on, so you think you'd tell it's been an absolute pleasure. And I'm excited for what's next. One thing I would ask is, or I would worry about, at least on the BR thing. So on Fridays, I do this DFS block, and I do my weekly preview show with the Bad Bros, often on the clock, and we go through the slate. Would there be risk of, you know, undercutting or cannibalizing some of that content? How do we make sure that it is not overlapping too much with that show that I do regularly with those guys? Yeah, I think it would less than undercut it or, you know, try to cannibalize it. I think it would just bring a different aspect of content to what you're doing in the DFS space. I think having a data centric approach is more of a compliment to what you're doing with the Bad Bros than it is cannibalizing it. And I think they would honestly work really well in unison, rather than, you know, eating at each other. So there's Alex Cups, there's Cups Analytics. I think no matter what happens in this show, there's big things coming for you in the fantasy football space. Do you think it diminishes kind of your resume and just kind of your upside as a creator if you get pigeonholed into Pete's Quant? Like if people start calling you Pete's Quant instead of Alex Cups, how would you feel about that? I'm not super worried about it because I think it's just a fun little, I think it's a fun bit to play into. Obviously, our show would be more than just me being the little nerd in the corner behind the scenes, the tending you a spreadsheet, you know, like we're gonna, we're gonna be talking. I'm not concerned about myself being able to hold my own in front of the camera. It's more the fact that I want to be the guy that can provide you with data driven approaches. Unless of just being the quant, you know, that's not even on the camera behind the scenes, just providing you with spreadsheets. I want to talk about these things with you, whether it's exposure or the fact that it's a paid gig, whether it's the ability to promote your own YouTube channel or other endeavors in front of a bigger audience, what about getting this gig would be the most rewarding or most important aspect for you? The most rewarding part of it would be the fact that I'm just, I would consider myself that I'm working with the people that I respect the most in this space. And I think that's, that's different than, you know, getting personal exposure for your channel or, you know, the fact that it's a paid gig, like that, that to me is like not what I care about. The $3,500 in site credits for this winnings. And that has not been the motivator for me from day one. For me, it's been, how can I work with the people that I've watched for years that I think are the best voices in the fantasy football space? And how can I add value with what I know to their show lineups? And I think I have some serious value that I could bring to the stuff that you do in the fantasy space. - I know, obviously, the nature of this pitch is you're trying to find something that resonates with me and that I get excited about. But I am curious, what do you get the most excited about? Because you do have a versatile skill set and you do seem open to doing a lot of things. But I want to know when we've been doing this for 32 weeks in a row or whatever it is, what is the thing that is going to keep you coming back? What is the thing that's not gonna feel like a chore for you? - I'm just honestly not worried about it, man. I'm not worried about it feeling like a chore because I mean, I did an entire program on data analytics for school and this is like something I truly love. So I think the through line of what is interesting to me and what I'm passionate about is data. It's not necessarily best while mania data or dynasty data or redraft data or battle royale data. It's just data in general, and using data to generate some sort of competitive edge. 'Cause I'm a competitive person and I just like to win. Whatever I'm playing, I want to win, right? And I just want to take the data and apply it in a way that not only makes me better and not only makes you better, but makes our community that we grow together better at whatever they're playing. - If I pick you and we're promoting our show on Twitter, are you gonna promote it as EST or PST start time? I'll give you that one, I'll promote it as EST. - I of course had my opinion on these pitches, but I needed someone else to help me review these and share their thoughts. And who better to call up than the person I had pitched almost one year ago to the day on ideas I could do for the NFL pregame show? And that's Alex Piper. He's an exec at YouTube who took a chance on me as the fantasy analyst for that production, and he has also previously worked on reality TV shows at Fox, like American Idol, and the direct title inspiration for this show so you think you can dance. We talked months ago, before episode one even existed, and his advice was both valuable and eerily prescient. - Well, it's tough. I mean, on paper, you can make the case that you shouldn't be the host, that you should be a judge, right? Because ultimately you're the one has to make this decision, for somebody who feels comfortable with you. The host is more faceless and nameless in these shows, right? It's just kind of like asking a question and allowing the other people's personality to drive it. In this show, how do you play that role while also landing the sort of talent that you wanna collaborate with in the end? So I think finding that balance is gonna be tricky. We hadn't talked since then, though, and I was curious how he thought the season had gone. - Well, I'm impressed because I think you made it interesting at every step, right? A lot of these things can get conflatline pretty early in terms of just making interesting content. You added a lot of this reality show twists, which I think helped with engagement. It also helped showcase a lot of the different sides of everybody's personality, right? I think if you were to just watch the first couple episodes, you maybe had one feeling about some of the stars. But as we went on, you started to see a little bit more. I think where you kind of had some realizations throughout this process is, okay, one, I did this to make some really fun content and meet some really fresh faces, but at the same time, I'm actually hiring somebody and I need to partner with them. And there's a, that's something that a lot of these reality shows don't have, right? So you think you dance or American Idol when the judges pick a winner, they never have to see that person again. More than likely, right? You're doing a little bit more like what the original apprentice was, right? Whereas somebody's actually getting a job in Trump's organization afterwards. And even then, I don't think Trump really had to deal with Bill Ransick. You know what I'm saying? I don't think he was really thinking about it that way, but you actually are gonna have to be, and not only that, what you're offering this person goes way beyond sight credits, you know what I'm saying? Like, you're offering them your audience. Like, you're putting your audience in the hands of this person, and then that's really valuable. You spent years and years and years cultivating a relationship with this audience to get them to come back no matter what it is you do, they keep coming back, and you're basically leasing them out to somebody else. And so the relationship you have with the audience has to be very precious to you, and you wanna be really careful about who you bring into that family and who you put in front of them. And so I think you've had that realization as you've gone along, and I think this has become a little bit of a different, more serious thing to you, kind of as we get to the end here, and in the finalists, then maybe it was when it was just, hey, send me in a fun video, and let's see if you can get to the next step. - For sure, and I listened back to our episode, and I mean, I talked about how, like I knew the show was gonna exist on those different levels by necessity of what the prize was, and how we were gonna start. But I do think both for myself wearing the production and host hat, and then also for the audience, those shifts I think were jarring at times, because there was the tout competition, and a lot of people indexed on that, like who gives me the best fantasy football information. There were the reality show elements in the drama, and people getting invested in characters, and et cetera. And then it shifted hard, you know, when we really hit these final five of like, okay, no, no, like, I'm removing variance here. I want to get these final three right. I wanna actually be able to see doing a show hiring all those things you mentioned. And so for me, you know, the shifts made sense by necessity, but I think the fact that the show has been so many different things at different points has, you know, for different people. Everybody kind of projects onto it what they want out of it. And so then when it makes those shifts, they say, oh, it's not the thing I initially liked, or whatever. And now by necessity, I have to be selfish with how the in-game goes. - I love the vulnerability that you showed a little bit in the latest episode where you were talking to Pat, and you were talking to Davis about the finalists, right, the final five, right? Because I think you were showing like, hey, I wanna get this right, and how this fit is gonna work is really important to me, right? And so it wasn't just like, who can I make one hour of great content with? Because you can probably do that with a lot of different people. It's like, who do I wanna invest in long term? Who unlocks something for me? When I think about the best job interviews, whether it was me interviewing for a job, or whether it was me interviewing somebody to hire them, the best job interviews are the ones where I can sell to the person why I can make their life easier, how I can be a value add to what they wanna accomplish. And vice versa, when somebody's trying to get a job on my team, right, I'm thinking through the lens of can this person make my life easier? Can this person free me up to do something that I wanna do will spend a little bit more time on all of those things? And I think that's much different than who is talented at making content, right? There's a lot of people who can make content, they can make fun videos, they can do a live stream, they can do a draft, like those sort of a thing, but how do they compliment what you're doing? How do they unlock something for you as you're trying to grow your channel and grow your audience? I think if you look through that lens, the three finalists, you know, you can pull focus on the three finalists in very interesting ways 'cause they're very different. And I think when I think about what's been most successful through this whole process of so you think you can tout, I just look at those three finalists. Obviously this went well for you to end up with three really unique people the way that you did. Because if you just had three people that were all kind of the same and we were like just trying to like negotiate the small little differences about them, then this probably wasn't that successful. But the fact that you could find three people who are so kind of unique and can bespokely help you and what you want to do next, I think means that this whole process was successful. - Let me turn the question on you, because here's the thing too, right? Like I did this show not explicitly defined a new collaborator or because I thought there was something that I could unlock on my channel that would take it to the next level. The show was the project. That was what I wanted to tackle. And the destination was just kind of a necessary logical place for us to end up with what I could offer 'cause I didn't have a $100,000 prize to offer it. I didn't so like doing a show with me was supposed to be something that would be energizing and get a lot of applications. So because I don't have like a specific hole to fill, it does put me in this weird spot where I do think I'm most interested in who would I really enjoy working with in Pat mentioned the word friction. - I think you just want someone where that's not gonna feel like there's a lot of friction. - Which I think is a really good word as far as I want something without a lot of friction because I do a lot of stuff and I can't have stuff that requires not only a lot of additional time but a lot of emotional energy. Like I don't have that to give to these things. And so that's the thing I'm thinking about here but I'm curious from your perspective as someone I know who's watched stuff on my channel and seen a lot of my judges in content. Like who do you think fits well with what I do or kind of stylistically or might fit that criteria? - You bring up friction, right? I think PBR Tyler is all about causing friction, right? He wants to cause friction with the audience. I don't know whether he would cause friction with his co-hosts, I'd like to believe that he wouldn't but I think he knows that part of his stick part of what gets people engaged with him is that level of friction. He's one of those guys who I wonder whether he's a better solo artist than he is as part of a band, right? And so is he somebody who if you're doing a show with him one plus one equals three or not? I don't know, you know, and I think, If you were doing one, if you said I have to do one hour ten night, and I want it to be the most entertaining hour that I could come up with ten night at six o'clock, I'd probably sit you with PPR Tyler, right? But that's not necessarily what this is all about, right? Or at least through my lens, you're ultimately deciding that. And so if you think, and I think Pat said this on the last episode, but if you think that this is a relationship that long term can actually grow, right, where you guys could figure out a back and forth, then that's that's really interesting to me, right? Because you've seen shows like that, whether it be like Mike and the mad dog, or whether it be Cornheuser and Wilban on on PTI or things like that, where you get the right two people together, and they find magic, and they really feed off each other incredibly well. But more often than not, when you try to do that, it doesn't work. Everyone's kind of stepping on each other, and it doesn't quite flow. I don't know how you feel about how that marriage would would land with you and PPR Tyler. There was an interesting thing that happened in the pitch with PPR Tyler, and I loved that he did a demo of showing me how this would work, where we do the film thing. And I thought the demo was going to include him engaging me, right? Like, the demo is what the show would look like, and get my take, be like, can I change your mind? I told you I'm fading now, it appears to be like, you show me the clip, it'd be like, you still fading, you still fade? And he basically monologged at me for the entire thing, and eventually I cut him off, and was like, I think I got I got the just no, yeah, yeah. All right, I've seen enough Alec Pierce tape. Let's let's move on and it hints back to what you just said. He's been doing this idea on his channel in solo form, and he's gotten really good at monologuing. Yeah, you get a comment from the chat here or there, but I'm just kind of cooking. I'm sheffan as the solo streamer, and this specific idea, I wondered too, like, maybe it isn't the best vehicle for a show for us to do together, and it is like, this is something you do solo. It's not to say we couldn't make it work. I think we would find our stride, but that was kind of a telling moment that we didn't engage me in a demo that is supposed to be the demo for the show we do together riffing on those topics. Yeah, I do think the idea of having that all 22 film breakdown is a good one, right? Yeah, it's just like, how does your partnership with him bring that and really explode it, right? And some of this comes down to, and this is probably a question I would have for you, is, are you looking to deepen the engagement with your core audience? Are you potentially looking to grow a different audience? Right? And those are a question you always have to ask yourself in the content game, is like, do I just want to lean in to my base and just keep giving them what they want? Or do I want to try something new? When I worked with Mr. Beast for a short amount of time while I was at Night Media, this was a conversation that he was having all the time, right? As he would try something new, one week, the next week he would do two or three episodes of stuff that he knew his core really loved, right? Because he would never want to abandon them. And so he was very careful about when he went outside of the comfort zone of what his audience had become accustomed to. But he also never stopped trying new things. And so I look at this and I go, okay, does Tyler allow you to try new things? Or is he just a different voice inside the same context of the same show that you've been doing for the last couple of years, right? Where I think I look at squares or cups and I think, you know, they might bring something new. I don't know that they're going to generate a new audience or not, but they're definitely a little bit different than some of the people you already have been collaborating with. That really is the crux of this decision across the board. It's triangulating all of these factors who would be fun to work with. Does it feel different and unique from what I'm already doing? And is there upside here? Can this actually unlock growth both creatively and for my channel? And listen, the truth is none of these are finished products. Like all of these guys can get better. And that's part of why I think with PPR Tyler, I worry how much upside is left with him, right? Versus cups and squares where I think you actually, there's a lot of development that can still happen with them as talent. And I think pairing with you can unlock a lot of that because it can take a little bit of the pressure off. I mean, what you asked them to do throughout this process, whether it was like solo streams or draft it, it was tough. Not everybody is going to be good at all of those things. If they were, they'd probably be doing this already on their own, right? So we have to think about it through the lens of putting this person within your ecosystem. What can get unlocked about them? Where do you think their upside lies? PPR went on a roller coaster ride in this contest. An electric submission that positioned him as a clear favorite. He kicked off a co-host who later kicked him off. And then a one in 22, I wouldn't actually look, one in 22 luck of the draw put him on the bash, which ultimately led to him getting brought back in crushing stream week. But ultimately, the pitch just didn't quite stack up. The vibe of the demo fell off. He mentioned that there would be scheduling issues. I had to give him a call. So I'll pull off the bandaid right away. You are not the winner of so you think you can tell. We set it in stream week. You were the most entertaining guy in this contest. That was never the question. When you hit, you hit bigger than anybody. We have so much fun streaming. But I truly feel like your pinnacle in this contest is when you're doing solo stuff and you're so good at that. And I just really want you to keep leaning into that and doubling down on it. Honestly, as soon as we got to the final three, I was just like, what ever happens here? To go through the whole experience, I've looked at the entire thing as a net positive. Obviously, you want to win them. But I actually think getting eliminated was good for me. Because then I come back and I'm like, oh, it's just like this free roll second chance. I would love to win, but if I don't, it's funny. We were talking about my mom and the whole part of it. After I did that pitch that one morning, I called her and we were talking about, and I was like, honestly, I've kind of put everything out there that I need to do. I wouldn't have changed anything. I have no regrets. So whatever happens happens, and it's just out of my control. So I was totally at peace. It's like whatever is going to be so fun. And it's all happened this past week. I had this day on Tuesday. And it was legitimately crazy. It was the day I was going to talk with Piper. But that day, I got an email from one site looking for talent. I get a text from Nick BDGE. He calls me up asking about talent. And I get a text from Pat Mayo texting me. Like again, completely unsolicited. It wasn't like, all right, now I'm ready to send these guys out into the world. And they were all asking me, like, okay, who do you think would be good? I have these roles to fill, et cetera, et cetera. And you know, Pat Mayo, he immediately brings up your name. We're going to be doing our full NFL content this year as we normally do, including the special guest rotation on Sunday night live with myself. PPR Tyler is going to be a guest on this year. Love is vibe. He's going to mess well with cast. It is going to be absolutely hilarious. So not always lost. The fact that the very first judge who gave you a very high score and then wants to put you on his channel, that's like a really cool full circle moment. 100% that's the we were again, just talking about an after dark where it's this this show has been good for even the people who who haven't won. Like, I know it's been good for me in terms of just like, monetization, get my name out there. It's been just awesome for everyone involved. And honestly, like, yeah, it's it's it's been a blast. We have some unfinished business here in in the show. When I think about PPR Tyler and I think about the end of the show for PPR Tyler, I keep thinking about site credits. And you booted BBG for $500 in site credits. That was really the first moment that I realized what this show could be. It wasn't just give me a tout competition. It was going to be a reality show. And so tonight Tyler, we're going to finish the PPR Tyler arc on. So you think you can tout in a very similar way as it started. One last game for site credits. Would you be interested in that? Is it where do you go to college? Have you ever watched the show deal or no deal Tyler? Tonight, a boy from Minnesota Trust, a win-and-off site credits to max BBM. Let's play it, baby. Let's go. What would you do with these with these site credits? Not as a deposit. Clog, Slop, let's go. Do not call this Clog. I play it. This is an underdog deal or no deal version site credits edition. On the board are 18 brief cases. One for every single round, you know, of a standard basketball draft. And inside one of these, as you can see, is the $3,750 in underdog site credits. Of course, enough to max BBM. The same is the full first place prize. But watch your step because the board also is loaded with some bus that won't even fetch you a puppy entry, like one or two dollars. So 18 cases, there's nine buss on the left, nine pretty nice prizes on the right. You're going to pick one case. That's your case. It's going to stay on your podium. And then we're going to go through multiple rounds. The first round, you'll open five cases, then four, then another four, then two. And after every round, a banker is going to pop up here with an offer. Yeah. Can you, can you maybe guess who would be who would be my banker? It's got to be sacrilegious. Sacrilegious. That's actually pretty good. Or it's a shady. It's - It's one of those fucking two. - You just like a nerd. - Yeah, it's someone with sidekick involvement. - Could it be like a chill nerd, like Michael Leone? - Oh, look at that! (laughs) - Got the calculator ready, PPR. - Are you ready to play? Deal or no deal? Site credits addition. - Let's play it, baby. Let's go. - What case do you wanna pick here? - Yeah, I already know what case it's gonna be because it's my sophomore QB's number last year. It's Michael Vicks number. It's B. John Robertson's number. Give me number seven. - I am now going to let you open five cases and we will see revealed here the first case that is not PPR Tyler's case. So what number would you like to go to next? - Let's go number one. - Number one, one dollar. - You can't have a better start than that. Since it's just we can't have better start. - Well, that is an awesome start. The EV of your case is already skyrocketing here. What's gonna be the next case you wanna open? - Let's just do the opposite. Let's go 18. - Oh, that's great. - Not great, but not the worst. Not the worst. - All right. - Five hundred dollars off the board. - Okay. - All right. Let's go with six. We played Mid-Atonka week six and I hate Mid-Atonka. So let's go week six. - Wow, he's got the schedule memorized. - Oh, Tyler. - Oh no. - That's why I hate Mid-Atonka right there. - 1500 in 500 off the board. - Yeah. - That's not great. - It's not great, but it's the top three or so there. You don't look at this positively here. - So that's what I tend to do. - All right, let's get back. - Let's go with, it's standing right right there. Let's go 15. - 15. - Okay. - All right. - Okay. - That's fine. - Could be worse. - Could be better. - Let's go four. - Last case, let's go four. - Show me, show me 40 for four. - Yes. - Four hundred dollars. - Okay. - Okay. - All right. I'm bringing my banker on screen. We have lost $1 and $2, which is great. But we also lost $2, 5 and not so great, 1500. My quant, my banker is crunching the numbers right now. Mr. Leoni, what offer do you have for Mr. PPR Tyler? - Yeah, that was an up and down round Tyler, you know? Started good, ended good. Some questions, you know, the bank has about your loyalty after throwing BBG under the bus for site credits. So, you know, that's gonna hurt this first offer. We're gonna go $205 and throw in Josh Jacobs, autographed bookie card. Ah, I don't like Josh Jacobs. Let's go, I don't have to think about it. I'm just trying to think about what my mother would do 'cause like we used to watch the show like when I was a kid growing up and it's like, that's like a core member I have. My mother would say no deal. No deal for $200 and whatever dollars. - All right. - Okay. All right, no deal here. Thank you, Michael Leoni. We'll see you after the next four cases. What case are we going to next, Tyler? - All right. Let's go. My brother was born on July 2nd. Give me second. Timber two. - 60, all right. - We'll take that. - That's very good. - Very good. - All right, let's go. I'm just trying to find like numbers that have a relation to my life. Ah, let's go, I don't know. Let's go. We haven't done this. We haven't touched this middle row yet. One of these got to be low. Let's go right next to it. Let's go number eight. Number eight. Oh, tough, tough, not great. The top three still there though, which is good. So this is, they're pulling the way on this one right now. That's fine. We gotta get a thousand dollars off the board. One, two, 60 from the left side. 200, 500, 1500, 1500. But like you said, you want one of these top three. 2K, 2500, 3750. Two cases left before the banker makes you another offer. - Okay. Let's go number nine. Oh, no, Tyler. Oh, no. Shit. $2,000 off the board. - All right, people keep telling me week 17 doesn't matter. Hopefully this case doesn't matter either. Let's go 17. - Week 17 does not matter. - That's a matter of $20 dollars. All right, my Quant, my banker is back to make you another offer. - Okay, tough round, but you still got the top two prizes on the board. I'm going to make a bet with you here. If you answer this question correctly, you will get an additional $150 to your offer. - Okay. - Who is the author of this book? - Oh shit. Say the book, the title. - The Hobbits. - The Hobbits, who is the author? No typing, no Googling. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. - You did a full fit. - What did you add? It's 22, you asked me to name five books. That was the last book that I named. That's the last book I read. The Hobbit. I said that book. I never read it though. I just knew it was a book. J. R. R. Tolkien. Oh, I knew that, I knew that. Tough one, tough one. So this offer is going to stay at $550, but we will throw in a stream that you host that Peter comes on with you to do. - What the fuck? Did I say you can do that, Lid? - Is it a weekly film stream? - I think it has liberties here, Peter. - Okay, all right. - Okay, is that, that's a one-off, right? - It's a one-off. It's a one-off. I don't have all the time in the world. It's a one-off. - It's a one-off. - Let's just construe this. - All right, so why channel? These are very important details. - Yeah, which one was this, Leoni? - This would be, let's say this one's Peter's channel. This one's Peter's channel. - Wait, even better. - So 500 plus a stream with Peter on his channel. I've seen enough for Peter. Let's go, let's go, no deal. (laughing) - Okay. - Wow. - All right, no deal. We will see you back in a second. - Okay. - So it's three. It goes from five to four to four. So let's go three. - 750. Not great, but again, you're not here for $750. You're here for $2,500 or $3,750. But your EV is plummeting with each subsequent. - Partly. - Give me five. - Let's go five. - Ten dollars. - Yes, yes. - Okay, I should've started with five. - Okay, let's start with five, that was a mistake. - All right. Well, I can just, honestly, even if 350 here doesn't kill me, if I can just keep those top two, that is what we need here. That is what we need here. I'm thinking, let's double it, let's go 14. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, no, Tyler. Fuck. Motherfucker. Oh, that hurts. - That sucks. - That hurts. - That hurts. - Oh, one case left. Can we keep the hope alive? 2,500 tile, you can do some damage with 2,500. Give me 10. Okay, okay, 100. 100. I'm gonna bring the banker back. That was not good for him, Leoni. - No, I'm running the math. I'm not sure he wants to know how much this offer just came down on that land mine for the 3750. But, you know, what we're feeling generous here at the bank, offer's not gonna come down too much from the last round. We'll say $475. But, we will up the add-ons to one stream on each channel. So, Peter comes on your channel for a stream. You get to come on Peter's channel for a stream. It is a lopsided board out there. Do you wanna keep playing the GPP game or take the floor? - Like, I feel like that, dude. The deal is literally higher than four of the cases I have left to open. Like, and I gotta open three. Like, it just seems like, it's better how I'm a fucking gambler. It's the problem. I'm a fucking addict. I can't help myself. No deal. - No deal. - Oh, oh, he presses out. - I can't help myself, I can't help myself. If that, you know what, this is, I, yeah, it's fucking it. No, we, we, we, we, I'm gonna give the people what they want. They wanna see three more. Two more cases. Oh, it's even better. - Two more. - I think it was three, okay. - Yeah, this one's two. - Okay, I'm gonna keep the banker here 'cause this is only two. - PPR, what do you want here, brother? - Give me, give me sh-11. Sh-11? - Sh-11, 11. - Okay, all right, that's fine, that's fine. - Anything that's not $25, that's fine. - That's fine. - Okay. - You gotta get to this offer. You, all you have to do is not click $2500. That's all you have to do here, Tyler. (upbeat music) - I need, this is the case I need. My favorite, my favorite quarterback, not a Falcon. Brock Perty, give it to me. - 13. - Give me 13. - Thank you for telling me his number because I was about to have to Google it. - All right! - Come on, baby! - Five dollars, five dollars, that leaves 40, 80. 1,500, you made it to another offer from the banker. - If this was the bank's money, they'd be sweating a little bit at this point. - I only loosely got this idea approved from underdog. - Loosely, loosely approved. Okay, we're gonna keep this stream add-ons the same as the previous round. But your offer has now gone up to $900. - $900, our stream on Pete's channel, our stream piquesting on your channel, $40, $80, $2,500. - If you want to answer a Buffalo Bill's trivia question, it can swing up or down another $100. - Can I get a Buffalo Bill's trivia? I mean, dude, this is trivia, give me the fucking question. Let's get through to a thousand. - Who are the bail's four super bowl opponents in the ninth? - I watched this documentary. Okay, one is the giant, they lost the giants on that fuel goal. - Yeah, correct. - One is the Rams, right? - Buzz, no Rams. - No Rams. - Did you play the fucking Rams? - You've gone down. - No, the Rams were 92. I thought it was fucking stupid. I don't know why I saw. - I'm thinking of fucking Bella Check, talking about Marshall Falk. God, damn it. What's the offer down to, Leoni? $900. - $800 with the streams. You lost $800, two streams. And I want to know how much do you value those two streams at? If you put the monetary, like, 'cause that's what you're trying to have to factor in here. - I mean, I don't know, 50 bucks. - Bbg said they would change his life. - They didn't change his life. They was wrong. We'll respect for it. - 50 bucks. Lifetime value. (laughing) - Oh, man. It would be different if I, like, never stream with you before. Can I call my mom? - Yeah. - Hello. - Hey, I'm on stream right now. This is four so you think you can tell. I'm currently playing deal or no deal for site credits and I need your help. - Fuck. Okay. - So there, so how many cases do I open after this? - After this one, there's two. Okay, so the offer right now is 800. It was 900, but I got a trivia question wrong. That was on me. But the current offer is at $800 underdog site credits and there's a $2500 left on the board. - You're not even gonna tell her about the streams? Holy shit. - Oh, sorry. - Yeah, there's some streams that are, you know, they're kind of a throw-in. But there's $2500 left on the board. There's a $40 case and there's an $80 case. I have to open two more cases. Again, $900 offer, $2500 still there, a $40 case and $80 case. What should I do, Michelle? - How many cases are left on the board? - There's three and then the case I have. - Holy shit, Tyler. Oh, your offer is 900. - It's 800. It went down after I got a trivia question wrong. And they said it would go up or down to 100. I got it wrong. I say, I say you go for it, go for it, you say this. - Don't go for it, don't go for it. Take this, I credit it. You put in my ice cream for your date. - The last first date I just went on, my car got declined trying to buy ice cream. That was really tough. - But why did it get to client? - 'Cause there's no money in there. - Yeah, thanks for airing that out. I guess it was Ariana's dream. It's fine. Let's go. - I agree, beer for the second time on the show. Fork over those fucking cyclists, new me. - So just to confirm that's a deal. - That's a deal, yeah, we're gonna, yeah, it's good if this fucking case had it. And it's, no one, I will come to peace with it either way. I'll come to peace with either way, play. Okay, okay, can we play it out like I would have. - That's what I was wondering. - Oh, yeah, can we play it out? They know something. - Well, about this AI slop. I don't know if I got that far. - No, we can not play that. All right, oh, so we can't even see if I got it. We don't even know if I fucked it up or not. I told you this was called slop, what the fuck? - With PPR flush with $800 in site credits, two more streams with me and a gig with Pat Mayo, it was time to get back to what Piper thought about my two remaining touts. - When I think about 20 squares, I think about how he can unlock you by moving you out of the host role, right? I mean, clearly he has the chops to be a host, right? And he can navigate these things. And he can set you up to be a little bit more of an analyst and a little bit more of a comedian, right? A little bit more of a general entertainer, right? There are times when I'm watching ship chasing or I'm listening to ship chasing and you don't talk for like 15 minutes, right? Because you're making room for Pete or Davis or Jacob or whatever to say what they have to say and they're going back and forth and I don't hear you for a long time. And as somebody who enjoys listening to you, that bothers me sometimes because I'm kind of like, I wish Pete was a little bit more involved in this conversation. Yet when I'm sitting there watching ADP chasing, I'm not necessarily thinking, "God, I wish Shope would talk more." And it's not because I don't like Mike. It's because I understand what his role is as host and he's kind of setting everybody up to have that conversation. And so I think about a show with you and Tony and I think, "Wow, it puts you in an opportunity where you can show the side of yourself that we've all kind of come to see like maybe when you were doing the shows with kitchen and all of that where you could be a little bit more of an entertainer where you could pick off things and not feel like you always had to be distributing the basketball as a point guard. So I really like how Tony would potentially open up that for you on your channel. - I do think we can come and make an awesome show, but I worry about it, is it herky jerky? Is it the season ends and then it's like what next? What's the show concept? I just, I get this vibe that I worry about of like, is there growth for a long term partnership here or is it more just like for him, this is an avenue to have more inbound as far as opportunities. But that's the one thing that I thought about with the pitches where Tony pitched me on a concrete show idea that I can sell and I think will be good. Cups like pitched me on a long term collaboration and partnership and so they are really different to me. - Yeah, no, I think that's a really good point. I mean, listen, you're making an investment in somebody and you don't wanna feel like they're just kind of using you as a bridge to the vex thing or to the thing that they really wanna do or to the thing that pays them a little bit more money or gives them a little bit more exposure. And I don't know Tony well enough to know whether that's the case here or not. I think the show idea that he pitched you is a good one. It can be really narrow, you know, guillotine and all that is pretty narrow, but at the same time, I think where he tried to engage the rest of the community and it is kind of an interesting conversation. It's just a question of, you know, when you have your conversations with Tony, do you ultimately feel like he's there to try and serve you in your channel or is he there just to serve himself and himself only? I'd like to think that it's not the second one, right? And it doesn't completely have to be the first one either, right? They're not all in service of you, but I think you do have to remember the value that you're bringing to this equation for that. And it goes far beyond psych credits. You're bringing them an audience and you're bringing them a showcase, you've already brought it to them, right? You've already seen their growth. But them doing an entire 2026 season or 2027 or any of those things, it's a, it will be a big, huge, valuable unlock for that. And so you wanna make sure that they really understand what you're unlocking for them and are willing to return that investment back to you. The Squares pitch was strong, but how did it stack up with cups? I think Alex is really interesting. Cups is really interesting because I think the data driven side of it is a really fabulous unlock, right? And in a lot of ways because of some of the stuff that he can do. Now we have to believe that from a quantitative perspective, like he's really a value ad, right? And it's sometimes, like you, you don't know, like when you're listening to people talk about their model or talk about stats and stuff like that. It like takes me a little while to actually believe that what they're saying means something, right? I'm actionable. Yeah, that's like really actionable, right? And so, but I think about it from the lens of like a, like a Leoni, right? So when I listen to Leoni on one of the ETR podcasts or when he comes on a ship chasing or comes on any of these shows, like he's always bringing really valuable information. But sometimes when he's like hosting and establish the edge podcast, I'm like, oh my god, I got to skip past some of this stuff, right? Because it's just not. He doesn't have that vibe of like the, the, the host that we become accustomed to when you're locking you or Adam or somebody like that, right? And so I think it becomes something where cups would keep you in your current role, but he might be bringing some information that that some of the other people who are guests on your shows aren't bringing to the table. And so that can be a value. One of the things you mentioned about cups that I agree with is he is similar in that I try to bring on really strong domain experts to my shows, like basketball breakfast. I want the best best ball players in the world. When I do my DFS shows, I'm going to have you to cow and J. M. Did win and like the best of the best. The thing that's intriguing to me about cups that doesn't make it feel like a watered down version of that is how hungry he is to grow and that he wants to be in the fox hole with me. I've never had someone that I can say, hey, I'm really interested in this data thing that's playing out in the underdog battle royale streets. I'm really interested in the stacking dynamic. dynamic on draft kings. Can you go and look at this and tell me if there's any signal and you come back to me and then we do a show riffing on it. And so I think just that availability to have and as he pitched it, I love that he pitched it as my quant which had become a bit on ship chasing too. That was the part of it that was really attractive and I pinned him down in the questions after the pitch and I was curious 'cause he had been making dynasty videos and I was like, are you, like if you could have a job full-time in the space and one was being a full-time dynasty person or one was just being a data person that kind of bounces around and applies your skill set to different formats, different sports. What would you choose? And he said, what I'm passionate about is data. Which was selfishly the answer I wanted to hear 'cause I don't really need a dynasty bro but someone who's willing to learn and be hungry to dive into the data that I'm interested in based on the calendar and the offerings, that's really enticing. - Yeah, no, I can see that 100% and I do think he would be incredibly valuable to you there and I think that that part of the conversation is becoming more and more relevant every season, right? I mean, it seems like if you're not coming to the table with some level of data or analytics or something, some model or something, you're falling behind at this point because everyone seems to have some access to all of that. And I think that there's clearly gonna be value from having somebody like that in your corner who you can train to specifically come up with information that you think is going to be entertaining and can take the complex and make it casual. Like, I think that's incredibly important. I think the question is how quickly can he be turning around fresh information, right? It's tough, right? Ask any of the people who we count on for this sort of kind of analytical modeling and everything like that. They have to be grinding that information a lot and either they keep kind of using the same things over and over again or they're really good at it and they keep coming up with fresh takes as you go. And that's where he would have to be not just pretty good at it, but he'd have to be elite at it because the access that you have to all of those other people who are elite at it makes it so that you could kind of fill in that gap if you needed to. If you didn't have a cup, you could fill it in with some experts, right? And we know who those experts are, right? It's JJ and Dwayne and like all the people you're talking about, right? They can really do that at a high level. And so I would just want you to feel really comfortable that ultimately cups is going to be able to deliver on a week by week basis with fresh information, actionable information, turn that complex into casual. If you can do that, it gives you a whole new stream of content to make. - I completely agree with you and I actually mentioned that. I said to him, how do you handle if I give you a data project or something to look into and you come to a dead end and there's no signal there? And I really like how he handled it. He said something along the lines of. - We're gonna be honest, okay? We're gonna come on the show and we're gonna say this, what we thought might have provided signal didn't provide the signal we thought. And I think that's just as valuable as if there was signal. - So I respected that. The one nice thing I would say about Alex really juxtaposed. And again, you know, people like JJ and Dwayne who have gotten so good on camera and have these charismatic size of their personality. But cups has that too. And it gives you this element to fall back on where if you are drier, like then you better have the information because it's like Mike show with you to cow, right? Like if you to cow isn't bringing the heat with his ball takes and DFS takes, there's nothing else there. But people watch that show because they will hang on every word he says. Cups gives himself a little bit more wiggle room 'cause he is dynamic on camera. And he's shown a lot of sides of his personality. I think we could riff, we could be lighthearted. I think we could take the pressure off of the data always being the focus. I guess this is the part of the episode where you see me wandering through the forest, laying on a rock. You hear a bird noise deep in the canyon. The clouds part. And then I see a revelation who should be the winner of so you think you can tout. But that's not really how these things work, right? I've been thinking about these pitches and collaborations non-stop, slowly inching my way to a decision to what feels right, what's the best fit. And the Piper call helped me clarify my thoughts. Similar to the combos I had with Patton Davis after Stream Week, I had come to a decision between Cups and Squares. And I needed to call Cups first. I talked with essentially who was the guest judge, Alex Piper from YouTube. I know you probably saw at the very beginning of the series I did an interview with him. Yeah, no way. Yeah, so he came back, he's been watching the show. He's obviously someone who's opinion, I respect a ton. And I actually sent him your guys' pitches as well. Because he's a guy that from YouTube is looking at pitches, he's been watching the show, he knows me. So he was like the perfect guy to go through this. So we went through the pitches. I had the conversations with him. And he really helped me arrive at a decision for kind of how I want this to play out. And so now I want to talk to each of you guys individually and kind of let you know the verdict here. Let's do it, dude. That's awesome, I definitely am familiar with your interview that you did with Piper. I think that was one of the more insightful things. Was that this year that you did something with him? OK, that was one of the better things I've watched this year. Because some of the stuff he said, especially as me, starting out as a creator, it really was like, OK, this is what people are looking for. This is how to get in your lane and try to find an audience. So I think that conversation was so cool. So that's really cool that you got him as a guest judge. Yeah, and one of the things he's talked about a lot in that first interview we talked to him yesterday was this idea of authenticity. And I think you crushed that. And you had a comment, too, where you were like, that was a hard thing for me, where seeing emo come out swing and seeing recordus will come out swing. And I'm like, oh, boy, am I going to need to pretend to be something that I'm not for this show to be able to move on and be competitive? But I think what it came down to was-- I just told myself, you know, if I try to be something I'm not and I get booted, I'm going to have a hard time living with that, like knowing that I wasn't being myself on this show. But if I get booted for being myself, and it just doesn't swing my way, then that's fine. Like, I can live with that. And I'm so glad that you stuck to your guns through all of this, because I think we really got to see the real you. We got to see all of your strengths. Some of your weaknesses that you didn't necessarily shy away from. And so I'm super excited to tell you, man, you are the winner of-- No way. Are you serious? I'm not messing with you. There's no more rug pulls. You're the winner, Alex. No, there's no way, man. Oh, my God. Yeah, dude. It became-- That became crazy. You know, one of the things that I think separated you from the other pitches, which were just kind of like very specific shows, you pitched me on this vision of like your long collaboration. And I loved the pitch of being my quant coming on, whether it's DFS, whether it's redraft, guillotine, whatever we're doing, knowing that you wanted to jump in there, be my wingman, so to speak, with some of those projects. I think it was just the perfect fit for kind of what I'm looking for now, and kind of taking some of the content to the next level. Wow. I'm speechless, man. I don't have anything. That's crazy. I actually can't believe it. I think I said the exact same thing when you told me I was a lot. You'll have officially advanced to round two of so you think you can tell. Wow. Let's go, man. That's awesome, dude. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I literally can't believe it. This is insane. What if I told you it was just about to get more insane right now? All right, talk to me. Before that, though, I did need to call squares. I gave it to him straight. Alex Cups is going to win the show. However, Tony, I'm going to do your pitch. We're going to do that show. We're going to do the guillotine leak show. I'm going to pay you to do that show. And I want to collaborate with you. You might not get the site credits. You might not get the first place so you think you can tell season one. But I want to work with you, Tony. I think we can do a really good show. And your pitch was specific in a way that I just want to give it a shot. I think we can do it and then see if it can lead to additional things. That's amazing. That's amazing. I was hoping in my heart of hearts when I talked to Cups about this that there could be a chance, but like a bunch of us could do stuff together. And I'm happy that first off, congratulations to Cups. That guy was the, he's been a winner since he entered this contest. He deserves it. He's put all the work in. And congratulations to him on pump form and excited that he can wear the crown of the show. You think you can tell season one champion, however, we're going to have the best show out of the three of us. I'm pumped that we get to collaborate and talk about guillotine leaks. This is great. I'm excited. Let's do it. Stumbling upon someone like Tony squares through this process seems pretty unlikely in hindsight. I doubt I ever would have crossed paths with him had it not been for this show. And on top of that, I hadn't even considered the possibility. I'd find someone with legit hosting chops within a tout contestant pool. But then you see his talent on display in the challenges and you start hearing the biggest contact creators in the space, rave about him as here by himself, Tony squares, not even remotely close, clear professional, clear, a phenomenal host like if he is interested in being involved with the Peter Oversett YouTube empire, you should be thanking God. You know, he looks like the freaking dude and you go, holy shit. You might not be a tout per se, but Mason is 100% right. I need to work with this dude. And this whole thing has been, has been an absolute journey and I am at the end of the road. I've talked about this with a couple of people. The fact that I believe that all three of us have won in many ways because of what we've gained out of this, the exposure alone and the ability to do a show with you and the psych credits and all the other stuff in the crown. That would have been awesome, but the goal was to do a show in the fantasy football space with you because that would make, you know, rising tide raises all dingy type arguments. Like I'm pumped because I do believe this show can work. I do believe this show can be its own entity in the fantasy football space and I do believe the two of us together can really knock this out of the park. So I'm, I'm very, very excited and very pleased to come in second or third place, whatever it may be as long as the, the prize, the door prize at the end as I still get to do a show with you and break down guillotine leagues. I'm pumped for it. And I actually have one more opportunity that I'm curious if you're, if you're interested in when you lay it out like that, Peter, I think I'm scared to see what's behind the door, but what is it? There's no more ruggals. This is a, this is a legitimate additional job offer. So before I tell squares, I should fill you guys in because Karin and I have been talking about so you think you can towel and ship chasing a lot since I recorded with him last episode. We've also been discussing one of the shows under our umbrella called stat chasing. It's a data heavy show that runs in season. It covers weekly usage trends in the NFL and then the hosts apply that usage to DFS decisions, start, sit, trades. It's a highly valuable actionable show. And the show has been on the channel since the fall of 2020. Karin actually solo hosted it the first year we launched the channel, but then he got a gig at NBC. So we asked Sam Hoppin to take over and then Sam got poached by 4x4 and went on to do even more data work for some big sites. We then turned over the reins to Sam Sherman in Drico. And then when Sam moved on, Sack Religious joined on with Drico and they've held it down now for the past two years. We had recently learned, however, that Sack Religious, one of the sharpest dudes in the space, wasn't going to be able to co-host stat chasing again this year. So with Sack Religious gone, Pat and I knew we needed to retool the show and find some other co-hosts for Drico. And as luck would have it, I've been producing a show for the past four months that has given me lots of applications for a gig like this. And so my first call was to Neil Farley. Remember him? We needed a data guy, someone who could do the charts and he was stoked in a very Neil kind of way. I think in the end, this is kind of exactly what I was looking for, you know, it gives me a better platform to engage and disseminate my analysis and really gets us to dive deep into the stats as well as I was able to avoid having to host anything this entire time. So they're going to continue that trend going forward. And we knew we also would like another strong analyst on the panel. So guess what? I called up Michael O'Hara, a guy who could have easily been in the final three had things broken differently. Brother, absolutely, of course, that's fantastic news. Yeah, I would definitely, I mean, that kind of aligns exactly with what I love to do. So. But we were missing one key ingredient, as I explained to Tony. And then there's one more role that we need to fill on this show with analysts and data guys. And we'd like you, Tony squares, to be the host of stat chasing, if you'd be interested in that. Man, that'd be, oh, man, that would be an absolute blast. Of course, I would love to be the host of stat chasing with O'Hara and bringing back Neil, the old partnership, the old duo's weak partnership, I can't. That's a blast. I'm absolutely it. Sign me up. People had made the Mike's show comp for squares. Someone in my chat made the comp to show our great ADP chasing host who Corral's Pat Davis and Jacob each week. And now stat chasing had found their show to steer the ship. So what you're saying is to sum it all up is I lost so you think you can tell it, but I got two shows out of it. That is that is a great way to put it. I'll sign up for that any day for you to absolutely, all right, let's go to work. Squares was locked in, but I needed to get back to cups. I had told them things were going to get even more insane beyond just winning this show. What if I told you I'm not the only person who is interested in working with you and that maybe there are more opportunities even beyond collaborating with me. Would that be something you're interested in? I like where this is going, Pete. I like where this is going. Go ahead and tell me more, please. Well, I don't even know if it's me who should be telling you more. Maybe it's someone I can bring on here to tell you more. Do you know who this man is? I do. What's up, Matt? Matthew, how's it going? Alex, what's going on? Alex, when in competition, apparently you can tout. You don't just think it, you actually can. So congratulations on winning the competition. And as part of it, we've been watching your journey all along. Everyone at the fantasy life team is a huge fan. So I'd like to officially offer you to be a core contributor to the fantasy life team. You'll write articles for fantasylife.com. You'll appear on shows that we do, including shows with me. And we'd also, Alex, we'd like you to serve in the fantasy life data team. You're going to do research projects, and you'll provide rankings for all of our users, redraft, weekly, dynasty, guillotine league, everything that we do at fantasy life, that Peter does, that Friedman, that Duane McFarlane, Kendall Valenzuela, myself, and a bunch of other great analysts as well. We'd like you to join the team. Wow. Yeah, count me in, Matthew, I'm there, I'm there, man, and I cannot wait to get started. Let's do it. That sounds like a dream opportunity. I really, really appreciate you. Well, listen, you earned it, man. This is not charity. This is somebody that we identified, thanks to Pete Cho here, that we thought this is somebody that can help us get better. We're always at fantasy life. We're always looking for people that can help us get better, so we can help users get better. And I think you fit the bill. So seriously, congratulations. You earned it. We're really excited. And I don't know, Peter was very excited as well. I remember you posting on Twitter when Matthew followed you and you were just, you know, on cloud nine at that moment. Did you even, could you have ever imagined even then that it could potentially lead to this with Matthew offering you a job right here? No, you know what's so funny is when you followed me, Matthew, I was, I think that was probably like five or six weeks into the show and at that point, I think I, I think I was in France at that point when I got the follow on like, is there any way this could possibly get even better? Like, I get the Matthew Barry follow the show, like what else could the show possibly have for me? Like, I think this is like the peak. Like there's no way I get anything more out of this, right? So if I go home tomorrow, like I'm happy, like Matthew Barry follows me, he knows about my work, maybe eventually I'll find like an opportunity somewhere. But to see just what's even changed in the past, like four weeks, like every week, I kept thinking like, I can't imagine this show, like giving back any more to me. Like, I feel like I've gotten the most out of it possible every week. It just kept surprising me in terms of what, what kept coming, you know, the opportunities, the connections, the people, it's just unbelievable. So no, to answer your question, no, I could not have imagined this being what came from that five or six weeks later, it's, it's literally, I'm speechless right now. I can't even, yeah, it's unbelievable. Listen, well, I'm thrilled for you, man. It's awesome to get to see something like this happen in real time, you know, it's, you know, and I got to give a lot of credit to Peter as well for putting this all together. I, you know, me and my team as we search for talent and Peter's obviously part of the team, as we search for some, it's not easy. Oh, you see somebody that's good on social media, but can they write? Can they, can they be good on camera? You know, it's, it's not an easy process to find new talent in the space. And so this show made it surprisingly easy to do so. And so it was not a long conversation internally about should we bring Alex on the long conversation was, you know, hey, Peter, can we do this? You know, because we don't want to, we don't want to step on your toes here. And so obviously he was very supportive. We're thrilled to have you Alex. So we're, we couldn't be more excited and like I said, you are in this brother. You 100% earned this. I've always been impressed at how much Barry keeps tabs on the fantasy community. He always has his finger on the pulse and is always looking to amplify up and comers with talent. I've been very lucky in my career to be elevated to position where, you know, people care about what I have to say or what I think in my opinions. And so I just think it's important to, you know, this sounds really cheesy, Peter about to say, Alex, and this will be something that you learn. As you grow in our industry and you gain more notoriety and more following, more followers. But what you tweet, how you tweet it, how you treat other people in our industry, how you treat our industry matters. It all matters. And so again, not to get super corny and cheesy, but I am a believer in the whole, you know, with great power comes great responsibility and I'm not going to say I have great power. But again, I have been lucky enough through my career to develop a fairly large platform and, and there are a number of people that, you know, in some cases for the good and some cases for the worse, but pay attention very closely to what I have to say and, and what I do. And so I take that seriously. And so I think it's important to try to give back when you can. The other thing I would say, Alex too, what I've learned from working with with Matthew now for we're coming up on six years almost, probably with the newsletter is Matthew, is a fiercely loyal person. I'm a fiercely loyal person. There's a reason we continue to work together, even when we're not collaborating on the day-to-day ins and outs, but just Matthew giving me that opportunity and then me wanting to be in the fox hole. We've had tons of transitions at fantasy life, with leadership, with even the talent and stuff, and I've just never wanted to leave. I've always wanted to stay here because the vision that Matthew has for this and how exciting it is to see it growing and now to be able to bring someone in the fold from both of our corners of the internet and you being the breakout star of this show and then to have Matthew and fantasy life agree that you also were that person and for all of this to come together in this really fun, synergistic way, it's really exciting man. So as Matthew said, you are in this man. This isn't some charity, this isn't. There were scenarios where you didn't win the show, but fantasy life was still interested. I did not know until I reviewed the pitches that I really talked it through that you were the right winner and now we just get this awesome moment where it all comes together. - Yeah, like I said, I can't believe it right now and I'm just so lucky to first off, Pete. Thank you so much to you for coming up with such an insane idea for a show like this and not only coming up with the idea, being able to execute on it. This show has been probably the most pivotal thing that I've ever done in terms of combining something I'm passionate with, something I'm passionate about with something that could potentially be a job and really trying to put myself out there and take that leap. So your show was really the first thing that gave me a springboard to do that. So we can see where that can get you. If you go after stuff that you're really interested in so I'm so thank you so much for that and Matthew again, I mean, I can't thank you enough for taking a chance on me really, really looking forward to working with you and your team. Yeah, I'm sure it's gonna be an absolute blast. So 2020, 26 season, it's gonna be great. Let's do it. Alex Cups, the champ, squares and PPR Tyler two extremely talented finalists who are already stacking more opportunities in this space and it got me thinking, reflecting. On this true serum take that one of our applicants and one of the OG legends of the deposit kingdom, Frankie had shared in his submission. My true serum take is that so you think it's going to be a colossal failure. So, was Frankie right? Was this show a failure? Honest answer from a pure gross standpoint? Kind of, the YouTube channel plateaued. The view counts never exploded in the way I hoped. But here's the thing I didn't expect. There is a shocking amount of die hard fans in this community. The discord, the chat. The people making weekly power ranks on X. Guys like Blizzy and Rikiduzel putting out betting big boards. The people who cared enough to argue about Tony Square's ball knowledge like it was a fucking supreme court case. But it really wasn't until this finale that I realized what a smashing success this show really was. Literally while working on this episode I received a handful of messages, calls, inquiries from creators and sites wanting to connect with some of these touts for opportunities in the space. It wasn't just fantasy life, it wasn't just Pat Mayo. A lot of important people and decision makers in this space have been watching this show closely. And they're asking me for references. And let's just say this show is very much coming to an end but the opportunities aren't. Sure, it started as a tout competition. It then morphed into a reality show. But ultimately, so you think you can tout was one long job application for all of these touts. In the contestants who went deep in the contest and realized that are set up for some awesome opportunities going forward. And I can't wait to see what they do. What I can wait for, however, is thinking about season two, which of course naturally Piper had to ask me about. - Yeah, that's really interesting. I think you're probably making the right decision. One thing that came into my mind as you were saying that is-- - Yeah, I'm cutting it there. I'm not going to include what Piper said because I'm not locking myself into a season two right now. But yes, of course I have ideas. I always have ideas. And I did share one with Piper. - Yeah, I mean, listen, that's really, really interesting and really creative. I mean, it's just a question of how much gas do you have left in the tank to do that? - Not right now, Alex. - Not right now. - Because it's a lot of work. As Alex headed out, I learned one more shocking thing that shattered me to my core. Remember that YouTube gig I got where Piper asked me to tout fantasy football on global television? Well, guess what? He hadn't hired me for my ball knowledge. - Well, I will say this, Pete. The reason, I didn't think I may have said this earlier, but the reason I was such an advocate of having you on the YouTube NFL show was not because I thought, oh, this guy knows ball better than anybody, or this guy's the most credible NFL voice I can find. I thought you were incredibly entertaining. I thought you were incredibly engaging. And I thought you knew how to work well with others. You knew how to set other people up. And I knew in the scenario that we were putting you in, you were gonna have to be able to do all three of those things. You know, you did obviously a fantastic job and when we did the YouTube show, and I've only screwed it up by not having more NFL games for you to do. I'm working on that, I'm trying, okay? But, and trust me, we have more NFL games. You're gonna be on it, right? Because you did an amazing job. And so, me helping to give you that opportunity, would you at earned, I'm not giving it to you, you at earned it, that's what you're doing for them. You're giving them an amazing opportunity and they should be incredibly thankful that you put so much work into this along the way to try and give them, you know, an open door that they can walk through. - Yeah, man. Well, like I said, like I listened to your interview, again, I thought about it a lot throughout the show. And I was like so naive about so many things where I'm just like, I really was figuring this out as I went and then I would like hear your voice in my head as certain like, you know, crossing the river moments happened at, yeah, man, I can't thank you enough for all of your advice and support and stuff. It really means a lot. - Oh man, I'm so happy to be even a small part of it. Thanks for inviting me and I can't wait to keep watching. - Alex mentions being a small part of it, but there were a few people who were a massive part of this. And that's the editing team. I've spoken on a few occasions about the editing process for this show, but I doubt most people realize how time-intensive it was what a massive undertaking it is to pull off a show like this. The pure volume of footage we had across challenges, interviews, confessionals, judge calls, voiceovers. It was a full-time job that we all did in a part-time capacity. And I couldn't have done it without guys like Lou Dogg, tracking down every single random clip I'd asked for and making sure we didn't miss anything that should be considered for the show. There was Chris, aka Sequence, my editor now of multiple years on the deposit kingdom channel who is meticulous with his editing and organizing of files, always taking the first pass at the edit once I finished the script. And then Zach Lanars, who from my perspective is the other breakout star from this show. Not only did he take our editing production to the next level with his design chops, but he became an invaluable sounding board for me as I rift on show ideas, challenges, twists, moves, and everything else required from a show that needs to go from 135 applications to a champion in the most entertaining way possible. You can try to pose Zach and you really should, but I'm not letting this guy go. So thank you to everyone, the editing team. Everyone who applied, the contestants who poured a ton of time and energy into this, and the judges who gave legitimately great and actionable feedback. And you guys, the fans, the diehards, the people who became obsessed with this in extremely passionate ways. The intensity is how I knew this wasn't a failure. I might be exhausted, but I'm proud as hell of this. However, you would describe what we just created and accomplished over the past four months. On our way out, it feels fitting to share one final confessional, of course, from our champ. All right, last, so you think you can tell confessional from me, it's over. So you're thinking your doubt is over, and we've won. We've won. I literally, I mean, I was told the news earlier today and still hasn't really fully sunk in yet. Big shout out to Tony and PPR. Honestly, big shout out to everyone that's competed in this competition. Especially, you know, the last couple, really have felt just like, you know, serious competitors and being able to go against them. I feel like any of us could have won on any given day. So shout out to them. Obviously, bright futures ahead in this space. I got in front of the camera for the first time for Fantasy Football in late September of 2025. Okay, so I've been doing video fantasy content for less than 365 days. And to see the difference in a, not only just how much better you get at doing this, like if you go back and watch my first video on my YouTube compared to now, it's like absolutely night and day in terms of the comfortability in front of the camera. But be just like how much can happen if you take the leap of faith to try something new and step out of your comfort zone and do something you're really interested in doing. How much can change in your life [BLANK_AUDIO] less than a year. So I guess my advice to anyone thinking about starting creating content is just literally getting in front of the camera and start doing it. Just go do it. Just do something that makes you uncomfortable. Whether it's fantasy or something else. Just go out there and do something that you're interested in. Something that's passionate about. Because when we get one life, might as well make the most fit. Might as well try something that you like. Try something that excites you. So yeah, that's what I got to say on that. Major shout out to Pete again for the show, for the opportunity. I cannot wait for you guys to see us in action in fall. So stay tuned, maybe Peter Oversett, Alex Cups coming to you soon with some content. Thank you, Alex. I can't wait to get started working with you because now now it's time for me to get back to my real job. Being a fantasy football tout who doesn't know ball. But before I do, one last stroll down memory lane. Don't cry because it's over. Smile because you really thought that you could tout. Why does that couch so small? This might be your bit. This is not I hate this guy so much. Just like just smile a little shy. We don't have to like top, top, top everybody. But you're not going to be doing it by yourself. You're going to be doing it with Rick Adusel tonight. My name is Seth and I am a so you think you can tout tout. Yeah, it's certainly tougher than it looks. Good thing, dog. I am an actor. No way. No, who are you? I don't know. It wasn't Nathan Daniel. He probably got Dan pick up man. Yeah, actually the last thing I want to see from these guys is whether or not they know anything about football. I want to see what happens when they go inside Magic City and where the rest of the night takes them. And welcome to super fucking Linux. If this popped on to my YouTube, I would just snap, click off. Unfortunately, right. I chose to cut you. Sorry brother. They say that revenge is a dish best surf cold and Mr. The Commish. I want assurances that the streamers team is going to have to post their own edit. Welcome to an online version of tribal council. Mitchell, who do you want to take out this round? I'm ready to vote. Yeah, I don't think I can be a team player on this one. Emo cowboy doesn't deserve to win, so you think you can tell because he's neither Emo nor a cowboy. He is just a dick. I can't hear you, Pete. We can't hear you. We were on thin fuck tonight. That is extremely important for basketball as we know. Furthermore, fork over those fucking cyclones. New me. I want my 500 dollars, baby. Hey, PPR. Guess what? You have become like a sub-sector of my tree now. I've loved Peter, you know, dedicating his entire summer to getting the toxic tower like 400 more YouTube subscribers. I think it's been a really good use of Peter's time, energy and money.